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00:01:38.940 Elon Musk promises to eliminate poverty, which is welcome news to the 41% of 2024 college graduates

00:01:46.500 who cannot find jobs in their field.

00:01:48.120 I'm a little skeptical, however, as God himself told us that the poor will always be with us.

00:01:54.000 And also, our society apparently can't even stop a man with 22 arrests since 2016

00:02:00.240 from lighting women on fire on the subway.

00:02:02.440 I'm Michael Knowles.

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00:03:48.400 I have to begin with an apology.

00:03:51.460 I promised you yesterday, and I'm going to blame my friends in the wardrobe department,

00:03:56.320 but I'll rectify this for tomorrow.

00:03:58.440 I promised you that I would be wearing a beautiful mustard-colored sweater today.

00:04:02.920 And I will, that will, tomorrow.

00:04:04.400 Tomorrow is the day.

00:04:05.400 First, though, we will get to less important matters than my beautiful mustard-colored

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00:04:12.580 Maybe you'll even get to buy it.

00:04:14.640 A Chicago man has lit a woman on fire on a Chicago subway train.

00:04:20.360 This is the blue line in Chicago, which I think is a failed state.

00:04:24.860 And I know it's technically part of the United States.

00:04:26.860 I know it's a city.

00:04:27.900 I think it's a failed state.

00:04:30.300 I think if what is going on in Chicago were happening in other parts of the world that

00:04:35.760 had our geostrategic interest involved, we would be invading.

00:04:39.020 We would be sending Don Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney and F-16s in.

00:04:42.600 But for some reason, as a city in the United States, we just let the whole thing burn.

00:04:46.560 This guy doused a woman in gasoline.

00:04:50.980 Then he set her on fire on the blue line.

00:04:54.800 The victim is a 26-year-old woman.

00:04:57.560 She has survived for now.

00:04:59.480 I don't know.

00:04:59.780 That might change even during the course of this show.

00:05:01.640 She was hospitalized in critical condition.

00:05:04.100 Her life, obviously, completely upended by this.

00:05:08.000 At the best case scenario, worst case or more likely case, she dies.

00:05:12.200 While he poured gasoline and lit her on fire, he apparently screamed,

00:05:16.060 burn alive, B-I-T-C-H. 1.00

00:05:19.260 The victim was 26 years old.

00:05:21.520 The perpetrator is 50 years old.

00:05:23.740 The 50-year-old perpetrator faces a maximum sentence of life in prison if he is convicted.

00:05:31.760 If he is convicted is a big if right now because Democrat prosecutors let these criminals off the hook.

00:05:39.980 Just let them off the hook routinely.

00:05:41.440 Then, even if he does go to prison, he very likely could get out on parole.

00:05:46.780 Then, even if he doesn't get out on parole, he might just get out anyway because Democrats have a habit of trying to empty the prisons.

00:05:52.620 And they want to ultimately empty all the prisons because many, many, many prominent Democrats in recent years have campaigned on abolishing prisons.

00:05:59.920 So, this is the cost they're willing to accept.

00:06:04.440 When what they're going to say is, look, when we live in society, crime happens.

00:06:09.080 You know, look, criminals will always be with us in this fallen world.

00:06:12.540 The poor will always be with us.

00:06:13.640 We'll get to the Elon story in a moment.

00:06:15.900 They say, look, there's no way to really stop this.

00:06:18.320 Policing doesn't stop the problem.

00:06:20.460 Arrests, putting people in prison don't stop the problem.

00:06:23.440 Zoran Mamdani, the communist jihadi mayor of New York, future mayor of New York.

00:06:28.180 He came out, he said, prisons, they're not a solution to crime.

00:06:32.200 You know, they cause crime, don't they?

00:06:34.960 Was there any sign that this man might have done something like this?

00:06:38.840 Well, yeah.

00:06:39.560 According to, I think it's the local Fox affiliate out there.

00:06:42.420 This man has been involved in 53 criminal cases since 1993.

00:06:51.400 This man, the alleged perpetrator, has been arrested 22 times since 2016.

00:06:58.740 Over the last nine years, he's been arrested 22 times.

00:07:03.160 More than twice a year, this guy gets arrested.

00:07:06.420 And he's got a rap sheet going back at least to the early 90s.

00:07:10.000 And for all we know, maybe even earlier.

00:07:13.780 That's pretty crazy.

00:07:14.680 It would be hard for him to have a rap sheet going back earlier,

00:07:16.620 because at that point, he would have been a child.

00:07:17.960 But who knows?

00:07:18.380 The guy was probably committing crimes when he was a child.

00:07:21.280 This was as predictable as crime could possibly be, as it often is.

00:07:28.440 And there were 53 other opportunities to lock him up and protect society from him.

00:07:35.980 And the prosecutors failed to do it for decades.

00:07:40.520 In Chicago, so it was exclusively one political party that failed.

00:07:43.160 It was the Democrats.

00:07:44.860 As it always is in these cases.

00:07:47.880 And people wonder why our politics is getting a little radicalized.

00:07:53.700 People wonder why the right has had enough.

00:07:58.020 People wonder why the conservative movement is getting a little more right-wing these days.

00:08:02.980 And, you know, we tried to be nice.

00:08:05.840 We tried the kind of George H.W. Bush style, waspy, nice, polite approach.

00:08:10.220 I love the wasps.

00:08:11.620 I love politeness.

00:08:13.180 I love that.

00:08:13.960 Moderation is a virtue, isn't it?

00:08:15.720 Aristotle tells us.

00:08:18.840 The right is completely justified in moving more right-wing.

00:08:23.820 We're now at the point where, we'll get to this story if we have time.

00:08:27.180 Nikki Haley's son, Nikki Haley, widely considered a fairly moderate politician in the Republican Party.

00:08:32.100 Her son is extremely right-wing.

00:08:35.160 And he's been going on Fox News.

00:08:36.260 He just went on Tucker's show.

00:08:37.540 And he's making a lot of sense, actually.

00:08:39.900 And he's persuading a lot of people.

00:08:41.560 And people who are looking a little bit more to the right right now are persuading a lot of people.

00:08:46.960 Because of this, it's not in response to nothing.

00:08:50.820 It's not merely in response to some social pathology.

00:08:54.260 Oh, young men feel alienated.

00:08:56.300 Oh, you know, young men are hooked on porn.

00:08:58.400 Oh, all the psychobabble.

00:09:01.180 I don't know.

00:09:01.600 Maybe psychobabble plays some role in politics.

00:09:03.420 I'm sure it does to some degree.

00:09:06.080 The turn to the right within the Republican Party and within the electorate broadly.

00:09:11.620 Don't forget, Trump won the popular vote in 2024.

00:09:15.360 That is in response to real, material, political circumstances that have changed on the ground.

00:09:22.240 Reading this story should radicalize you.

00:09:28.920 Irina, well, I don't even remember her last name.

00:09:31.080 It was Irina Zarutska.

00:09:31.940 Remember the young woman in Charlotte who was just stabbed to death by an obvious, easily predictable criminal on the train?

00:09:39.360 That radicalizes you.

00:09:41.080 The BLM riots are going to radicalize people. 0.60

00:09:44.220 Burning the country down.

00:09:46.080 Dozens of people killed.

00:09:47.480 Billion dollars in property damage.

00:09:49.220 Basically, no one's held to account.

00:09:50.420 Most of the charges were dismissed when there were any charges made in the first place.

00:09:53.580 That's going to radicalize you.

00:09:56.900 The purpose of the criminal justice system is not all that complicated.

00:10:02.540 And the left has completely inverted that, and the right has misunderstood it.

00:10:07.480 The primary purpose is retribution.

00:10:10.440 It's that you do something wrong, and you are punished for the injustice you have committed.

00:10:14.680 That's the chief purpose.

00:10:16.580 It's not chiefly rehabilitation or deterrence or anything else.

00:10:19.740 It's chiefly because you've done something wrong.

00:10:22.540 You've violated justice.

00:10:24.440 Everyone needs rehab.

00:10:25.760 Everybody could improve.

00:10:27.140 Everyone could reform a little bit.

00:10:28.700 Not everyone goes to prison.

00:10:30.060 You go to prison for committing a crime.

00:10:31.400 That's the primary purpose.

00:10:33.060 The secondary purpose is to protect society.

00:10:36.680 We've thrown that one out the window, too.

00:10:41.060 We're not protecting society.

00:10:42.860 This poor woman is either going to have her life largely destroyed or will just have it literally destroyed and be dead because we fail to protect society from the criminals. 1.00

00:10:53.880 This is one of my arguments on why, as we have debates over the prudential application of capital punishment, I think the arguments that were being made two or three decades ago that at this point in our advanced society, we don't really need capital punishment because we can protect society from criminals by just locking them up.

00:11:07.180 That doesn't really hold water right now because we don't lock them up forever.

00:11:11.300 We don't lock them up for very long at all.

00:11:13.020 We actually let them off the hook 53 times, and then they go out and they light a poor woman on fire on the subway.

00:11:18.160 That's what's going on.

00:11:18.900 That is radicalizing, and it should be radicalizing.

00:11:25.240 If you do not feel righteous anger in response to an injustice like this, something is defective in you.

00:11:31.980 You don't want to give in to anger all the time.

00:11:33.740 Wrath is a deadly sin.

00:11:36.600 But no less in authority than St. Thomas Aquinas points out.

00:11:39.000 If you don't feel anger in response to this kind of an injustice, there's something wrong in you.

00:11:46.200 Simple answer.

00:11:46.960 Lock the guy up forever, at least.

00:11:51.140 As our political order run by the Democrats in places like Chicago fails to do that,

00:11:56.960 the rightward shift will continue, as it should.

00:12:01.720 Now, moving on from crime to poverty, terrifying report, especially for young people out of Forbes.

00:12:10.480 Only 30% of 2025 college graduates have found jobs in their fields.

00:12:15.640 And that's actually an improved number.

00:12:18.100 That's down from 41% of 2024 college graduates not finding jobs in their fields.

00:12:23.740 What does this mean?

00:12:25.260 The establishment types on the right want to wave that away and say, well, you know, you just got to figure it out.

00:12:29.940 You're the ones who studied lesbian dance theory at school. 0.98

00:12:32.780 You know, figure it out, kids.

00:12:34.500 Pull yourself up by your bootstraps.

00:12:36.320 There's no political solution here.

00:12:37.560 It's just an individual solution.

00:12:38.920 Come on.

00:12:39.400 Quit your whining.

00:12:40.240 Quit your bellyaching, you Zoomers. 1.00

00:12:41.940 You snowflakes.

00:12:43.420 That's the response from the establishment types.

00:12:46.300 The response from the leftists is, you know, we need to nationalize all the industries, and we need to kill all the kulaks, and we need a communist revolution. 0.99

00:12:56.500 There is an actual solution, though.

00:12:58.660 There is a real response that we should have.

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00:14:48.140 Really, really sad story for Gen Z. 0.99

00:14:52.100 You know I love the Zoomers. 0.97

00:14:53.380 I feel myself a little bit spiritually Zoomer.

00:14:55.220 I know I'm a millennial.

00:14:56.020 I feel a little spiritual kinship with the Zoomers. 1.00

00:14:58.960 The Zoomers are all right. 1.00

00:15:00.080 The kids are all right.

00:15:01.700 Politically, they kind of get it.

00:15:03.440 They get it a lot better than earlier generations do. 0.52

00:15:05.440 Gen Z men, in particular, with college degrees, now have the same unemployment rate as non-college

00:15:13.640 graduates.

00:15:15.140 So let's drill into what this really means because there's a lot of deception in news headlines.

00:15:23.880 30% of 2025 college grads have found jobs in their fields, entry-level jobs in their fields.

00:15:28.320 The phrase in their fields is doing a lot of work here.

00:15:31.000 Okay.

00:15:32.880 Because they might have studied, maybe not lesbian dance theory, but they might have studied 0.99

00:15:38.840 social anthropology.

00:15:40.740 They might have studied, I don't know, any number of kind of made-up fields.

00:15:45.800 Ethnicity, race, and migration.

00:15:47.320 That was an actual department when I was in college.

00:15:50.060 They might have studied African-American studies, gender studies, American studies.

00:15:55.320 What is your field in that case?

00:15:57.780 It's not really a field.

00:15:58.880 But I'll go further, and this is where the conservatives were completely wrong about their

00:16:03.220 approach to college.

00:16:04.920 For a long time, you heard on the right, you didn't hear it from me, but you heard it from

00:16:07.860 almost everybody else on the right.

00:16:09.820 If you go to college, you just need to study something practical like engineering.

00:16:14.560 As I said then, and I'll say it now, the purpose of going to college, the purpose of a university,

00:16:19.960 the purpose of liberal arts education is not to study a practical skill.

00:16:23.840 I joke about this because I studied history and Italian literature.

00:16:28.040 You know, very practical fields, aren't they?

00:16:30.180 No.

00:16:31.000 I joke, it's a joke because that's exactly the sort of thing you're supposed to study if

00:16:36.100 you go to college or university.

00:16:37.680 The purpose of going to these schools is to read dusty old books and to familiarize yourself

00:16:43.740 with your civilization.

00:16:44.600 And to expand your imagination, to expand your soul.

00:16:49.360 If there is any practical purpose to a college education, a liberal arts education, it is for

00:16:56.220 your leisure time to figure out what you're supposed to do with your free time.

00:16:59.420 And if Elon Musk is to be believed, all we're going to have is free time in the future,

00:17:02.380 though we'll get to that in a second.

00:17:04.520 That's what it's for.

00:17:05.440 However, inasmuch as there is any practical relation to a job, it is to help you to think

00:17:11.580 about things, but it is not to teach you anything practical.

00:17:16.640 And if you go, I was very fortunate.

00:17:18.700 I went to college on not quite a full-ride scholarship because it was need-based and there

00:17:23.740 was strange circumstances, but almost a full-ride scholarship.

00:17:26.840 So I happily, unlike a lot of college graduates, I didn't go into debt.

00:17:30.340 Easy for me to say that it's great to go and get that kind of an education.

00:17:33.900 That's true because there are a lot of people who go to school and they take out $50,000,

00:17:38.940 $100,000, $200,000 worth of loans that they're going to have to pay off for decades.

00:17:44.140 I remember Marco Rubio, secretary of state, presidential candidate, US senator, saying

00:17:48.480 that he was paying off his loans for many, many years, well into his political career.

00:17:53.680 And this is a guy who's succeeded at the top levels.

00:17:57.560 And what I think a lot of Zoomers are thinking right now, and they're totally justified in thinking 1.00

00:18:02.720 it, is they were sold a bill of goods.

00:18:04.600 They were told that the way to ascend the socioeconomic ladder is to go to college,

00:18:11.360 and that's the only way to do it.

00:18:13.260 That's what they were told.

00:18:14.840 They were told to go to school, and they were even told, including by people on the right,

00:18:18.220 you need to go study business.

00:18:19.720 You need to go study marketing.

00:18:21.440 I don't know.

00:18:21.820 You need to go study engineering.

00:18:23.140 You need to go study something practical.

00:18:24.420 And now a huge number of them are not finding even entry-level jobs in their fields, even

00:18:30.960 a year after graduating.

00:18:33.000 How are they going to pay off their student loans?

00:18:35.320 How are they going to get married and buy a house and afford kids, get a car?

00:18:42.140 How are they going to do all these things?

00:18:45.500 And unfortunately, the answer from the establishment right right now is, well, you got to pick yourself

00:18:49.060 up by your bootstrap, kids.

00:18:50.540 That's it.

00:18:51.940 Yeah, it's too bad.

00:18:52.840 You made some dumb decisions, didn't you?

00:18:54.760 Yeah, that was dumb, but you got to figure it out.

00:18:58.400 I'm all for personal responsibility, but those decisions didn't happen in a vacuum.

00:19:02.640 They were told by you, by the society, by their parents, by their teachers, by their

00:19:09.940 political commentators that they listened to, they were told that this is the way that

00:19:14.400 you ascend the socioeconomic ladder, and it wasn't true.

00:19:16.600 They were sold a bill of goods.

00:19:17.920 They were told that college is for preparing for a job.

00:19:20.120 That was not true.

00:19:20.760 That was never true.

00:19:22.700 And now what we are left with is not just a personal problem.

00:19:26.240 Well, individual Zoomer, go figure it out.

00:19:28.700 That's going to be tough paying off those bills.

00:19:30.320 Now what we are faced with is a political problem, a major political problem.

00:19:34.540 30% of 25 college grads can't get jobs in their fields, whatever their fields may be,

00:19:42.160 whatever their fields from what they studied is even supposed to mean.

00:19:46.520 Big problem.

00:19:47.780 Big problem.

00:19:48.460 At a large scale level, just to convince the establishment types that this is a major political

00:19:53.320 problem, revolutions are led by the bourgeoisie very often.

00:19:57.080 The French Revolution, which lopped off the head of the king and queen and lopped off a lot

00:20:01.580 of other heads in the way and destroyed France, was led by the bourgeoisie. 0.76

00:20:05.660 It wasn't led by just the hoi polloi.

00:20:08.240 It wasn't just those, the dirty peasants who picked up pitchforks and torched the country. 1.00

00:20:12.720 No, no.

00:20:14.420 It was the equivalent of college graduates.

00:20:17.020 It was the equivalent of would-be white collar workers.

00:20:19.240 And the palace is not secure when the cottage is unhappy.

00:20:24.780 Okay, so that's a major political problem.

00:20:27.980 It's also a political problem for us because as an existential political matter, we need

00:20:33.040 young people to get married and have kids.

00:20:35.760 And the way that they're going to get married and have kids is if they feel secure in their

00:20:39.440 country and if they feel hopeful about their country and if they feel like they have a place

00:20:43.160 in society and if they feel like they have some ownership in their society.

00:20:45.900 And the strongest predictor is if they have a strong religious basis, all of which is undermined

00:20:52.720 by college, all of which, especially the religion part.

00:20:55.720 Unless you go to an Ave Maria, to a Hillsdale, to a Liberty, to a Belmont Abbey I just spoke

00:21:02.360 at, to a Thomas Aquinas, you know, there are a handful, University of Dallas, a handful of

00:21:05.420 these colleges, the vast majority undermine all of those things.

00:21:11.720 So there needs to be a real reckoning here.

00:21:14.000 There needs to be a very, very serious reckoning.

00:21:18.520 So in the short term, what would the advice be to these Zoomers? 1.00

00:21:21.000 The advice would be, just accept the reality.

00:21:24.360 You were lied to.

00:21:25.420 And a lot of people bear the guilt for that, but you were lied to.

00:21:27.980 So if you want to get a job, don't limit yourself to your field.

00:21:32.260 That your field was illusory.

00:21:34.520 And we are on the brink of a major technological change with AI that could severely upend jobs

00:21:39.700 and fields and everything anyway.

00:21:41.720 Get a job.

00:21:42.400 Get any job.

00:21:44.920 Any job is better than no job.

00:21:48.280 Drew Clavin once gave me kind of colloquial, not exactly theological advice, but colloquial

00:21:52.400 good folksy advice some years ago.

00:21:54.140 So God can't drive a parked car.

00:21:55.540 You got, and this is true.

00:21:56.420 I've had a job since I was 14.

00:21:58.660 Okay.

00:21:59.740 Any job is better than no job at all.

00:22:01.580 And you'll learn along the way.

00:22:02.740 And you, but recognize you were lied to.

00:22:04.700 Then the other political problem, the government needs to stop subsidizing college.

00:22:10.900 The reason that the college rates have gone through the roof and have trapped Gen Z in cycles 1.00

00:22:16.680 of debt that some of them will never get out of is because the government has subsidized

00:22:21.560 college.

00:22:21.860 Because the government made a choice.

00:22:23.760 It's not just, you know, politics is downstream of culture.

00:22:26.020 The government made a choice to encourage a system that is bad and to promote lies, which

00:22:32.540 are always bad.

00:22:34.040 So the government has to stop subsidizing college.

00:22:37.220 The government also needs to come down on these colleges that are lying to their students

00:22:40.720 and telling them they're all, they're all going to get jobs when they graduate and that

00:22:43.340 the purpose of a liberal education is to get jobs or whatever.

00:22:45.180 So there is a role for the political order here.

00:22:50.960 The government further needs to promote marriage, promote having kids. 0.99

00:22:55.720 Right now it does the opposite.

00:22:56.860 It discourages both.

00:22:57.920 It promotes abortion. 0.97

00:22:58.960 It promotes contraception.

00:23:00.280 It promotes a libertine view of sexuality.

00:23:03.060 It abolishes the meaning of marriage in the law all the way up to the Supreme Court level.

00:23:07.840 So this is not laissez-faire.

00:23:09.700 This is not just the freehand of the market operating.

00:23:11.760 This is active government social engineering, and we need to reverse that.

00:23:15.580 Because the law is a teacher.

00:23:18.100 Got to do all of those things.

00:23:20.680 And most importantly, the government has to promote religion and suppress atheism and secularism.

00:23:24.360 It's done the opposite.

00:23:25.700 There are all sorts of political solutions, pretty practical stuff, like I've just described,

00:23:29.700 that can be done.

00:23:30.980 The individual Zoomers need to do their own thing in the meantime. 1.00

00:23:34.320 I wouldn't wait on the government to help you.

00:23:36.820 But also, Gen Z is totally right and justified in demanding political solutions to many of their 0.99

00:23:43.160 problems.

00:23:43.460 Because we're on the brink of a major social upheaval coming through AI.

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00:26:30.680 Everyone's telling us that AI is going to solve all our problems.

00:26:34.280 The entire stock market, basically, right now is predicated on the AI stocks, the Magnificent Seven.

00:26:39.680 The whole economy is kind of floating at the moment on this promise of AI.

00:26:45.200 Elon says not only will it make your life easier, not only will it make you richer, AI will eliminate poverty.

00:26:53.100 If you go out long enough, assuming there's a continued improvement in AI and robotics, which seems likely, the money will stop being relevant at some point in the future.

00:27:05.760 Now, there will still be constraints on power, like electricity and mass.

00:27:14.100 The fundamental physics elements will still be constraints.

00:27:18.900 But I think at some point, currency becomes irrelevant.

00:27:25.180 Currency becomes irrelevant.

00:27:30.360 So, AI will eliminate money.

00:27:34.380 There will still be physical constraints like energy, which is why you'll notice climate change just disappeared from our – forget about Elon.

00:27:42.200 Elon is like truly one of the great men of our age, and he's been one of the clearest forces for good in our political order that I've seen in my entire lifetime.

00:27:50.680 But all those other guys in Silicon Valley, they were all promoting the climate change cult.

00:27:57.300 They were all promoting the eschatology of liberalism, which is that the sun monster is going to kill us all.

00:28:02.580 You've noticed they've all kind of shut up about this.

00:28:04.300 Bill Gates came out.

00:28:04.960 He said, yeah, actually, I know I've been one of the leading proponents of the climate change thing.

00:28:08.900 Yeah, never mind.

00:28:10.000 I was wrong.

00:28:10.500 It's fine.

00:28:10.760 We're good.

00:28:11.340 He just released that in his newsletter.

00:28:12.540 No, we're good.

00:28:13.120 Never mind.

00:28:13.380 Why?

00:28:13.520 Because they all need a ton of energy for AI, and they all know that windmills aren't going to do it.

00:28:20.360 They're going to cut it.

00:28:21.200 They need fossil fuels, and probably they need nuclear energy.

00:28:25.680 So, they're saying, look, that's the one constraint, and like mass, you know, like actual, just tangible, physical goods.

00:28:32.680 But otherwise, you're not even going to need money.

00:28:35.520 What does that mean?

00:28:36.440 You're not going to – it means there won't be poverty.

00:28:39.540 But AI and humanoid robots will actually eliminate poverty.

00:28:47.040 And Tesla won't be the only one that makes them.

00:28:48.520 I think Tesla will pioneer this, but there will be many other companies that make humanoid robots.

00:28:53.000 But there is only basically one way to make everyone wealthy, and that is AI and robotics.

00:28:59.640 And we can't talk about robotics without AI.

00:29:02.880 So, this is at the U.S.-Saudi Investment Forum.

00:29:05.700 The president was just meeting with Mohammed bin Salim, the leader of Saudi Arabia.

00:29:10.060 A lot of focus on Saudi right now, a lot of predictions about the future.

00:29:14.520 Elon retweets this clip, and he says, poverty is an engineering problem.

00:29:20.880 And here, look, it's a little dangerous to disagree with the smartest man in the world.

00:29:27.620 One of the smartest men in the world, certainly the richest man in the world.

00:29:30.600 He's a very sharp guy.

00:29:32.760 He's making some points here.

00:29:35.100 AI could alleviate poverty.

00:29:36.800 AI could make a lot of people rich.

00:29:39.020 There's a bad version of it where it basically just takes a lot of people out of society.

00:29:44.420 And then all they have is leisure time, and maybe they're just living on a universal basic income or something.

00:29:48.980 And because we have a complete collapse of real education in the country, they have no idea what to do with their leisure time.

00:29:54.840 And you just see an exacerbation of all the social problems we have now, which is they spend all their time doing fentanyl, dying to the tune of much more than 75,000 people per year, and looking at porn or something.

00:30:05.280 Or best case scenario, just arguing about politics on the internet, which is not much better.

00:30:09.420 But his claim here is that poverty is primarily an engineering problem.

00:30:17.260 And this is wrong, because that view is essentially Pelagian.

00:30:22.920 And it's a view that is the natural outgrowth of liberalism, and it's the natural outgrowth of enlightenment thinking.

00:30:30.920 Enlightenment thinking, which told us that actually, look, we're smart now, we're enlightened.

00:30:36.000 And all those problems that plagued humanity from the Stone Age all the way up through five minutes ago, we've figured them out.

00:30:44.040 We're so smart philosophically, morally, technically, politically, that we can actually fix it with just a little more fine-tuning to the government, a little more fine-tuning to markets, and a little more fine-tuning to machines on the part of humans.

00:30:59.460 We can eliminate all of those problems.

00:31:01.260 And we can save ourselves from the consequences of what we once called the fall of man.

00:31:08.420 The poverty, it's an engineering problem.

00:31:10.360 This is diametrically opposed to the Christian view, in which our Lord tells us explicitly, the poor will always be with us.

00:31:20.260 The poor will, specifically, the poor will always be with you, as our Lord ascends to his Father in heaven.

00:31:28.800 The poor will always be with you.

00:31:30.180 Who's right?

00:31:31.400 Who am I going to trust?

00:31:32.740 I trust Elon on a lot of issues, but if I have to choose between trusting Elon and trusting our Lord on predictions for the future, I think I'm going with the divine logic of the universe.

00:31:41.080 And the reason that our Lord is right and that Elon is wrong here is because of that tweet.

00:31:50.080 Poverty is an engineering problem.

00:31:51.320 Poverty is not primarily an engineering problem.

00:31:53.820 Poverty is, there are material constraints involved in poverty, but poverty is ultimately a human nature problem.

00:32:00.920 We will find ways to be poor.

00:32:04.300 We, I'll just give you this example.

00:32:05.760 We're the richest country in the world.

00:32:08.060 There's never been a country richer than we are.

00:32:10.360 We are, even with a shaky economy, we're bounding with material resources.

00:32:14.140 And yet there are homeless people everywhere, aren't there?

00:32:17.840 Why is that?

00:32:18.960 Is it because we don't have enough money?

00:32:21.200 No, we have plenty of money.

00:32:22.320 Is it because we don't redistribute the money in abundant ways?

00:32:26.520 No, we do.

00:32:27.040 We redistribute a ton of money.

00:32:28.460 The government shutdown proved that.

00:32:29.640 You find out like 10% of Tennessee is on food stamps.

00:32:32.440 No, we redistribute a lot of money here.

00:32:35.140 That's not the problem.

00:32:36.400 Is it because there aren't homeless shelters?

00:32:38.320 Homeless shelters are open every night.

00:32:41.200 There are beds in homeless shelters every single night.

00:32:43.580 People don't want to go there.

00:32:44.520 There's still people on the streets.

00:32:46.160 Because homelessness is caused by a little bit mental illness, a lot drug addiction, and some bad choices.

00:32:54.460 And the brokenness of this world.

00:32:56.020 And the fact that the things that we want to do, we don't do, and the things that we don't want to do, we do.

00:33:00.380 That's the issue.

00:33:03.000 So this utopian thinking about AI.

00:33:05.020 Look, if I ran an AI company, maybe I would be selling this stuff too.

00:33:08.780 Maybe I'd believe it.

00:33:10.180 But it's not true.

00:33:12.440 What you are going to be left with after the AI revolution is a big social upheaval.

00:33:18.200 And maybe it'll destroy 20 million jobs. 0.96

00:33:20.200 Maybe it'll make 20 million jobs.

00:33:21.540 We don't really know.

00:33:22.080 But regardless, you will still have poverty.

00:33:26.540 You will still have crime.

00:33:28.140 And we bring this back to hard solutions.

00:33:31.200 We bring this back to the top of the show with the career criminal lighting a woman on fire on the train.

00:33:36.140 You need political solutions to try to mitigate some of that injustice.

00:33:43.020 And even then, you will never totally extirpate it.

00:33:46.320 That's what we're going to need.

00:33:47.320 There is no, so much of the Enlightenment project, the liberal project, was based on the false premise that we could eliminate the perennial problems and the eternal questions.

00:34:00.320 And we cannot do it.

00:34:02.080 And there's a kind of irony to this because the chief driver of all of our social problems, abortion, which ties to immigration, which ties to crime, which ties to the birth rate collapse, which ties to the redefinition of marriage, which ties to breakdown of social solidarity, which ties to the decline of the world empire, which ties into all of these things.

00:34:27.320 The chief driver of that is the decline in religion.

00:34:33.160 And it shows you something about how the imagination of man's heart is wicked from his youth, that even one of the greatest actors on the political stage, on the world stage, Elon Musk, even he is missing that.

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00:36:36.460 My favorite comment yesterday is from Frank S1111, who says, wake me when someone is in jail.

00:36:42.640 This is in relation to the Epstein story, right?

00:36:45.160 My view exactly.

00:36:47.220 We're going to get the files.

00:36:48.620 We already have the files.

00:36:50.020 We already have tens of thousands of Jeffrey Epstein files.

00:36:53.660 No, but now we're going to get the real files.

00:36:55.940 Congress almost unanimously voted for it.

00:36:58.100 Oh, yeah, okay.

00:36:59.560 Yeah, cool.

00:37:00.900 And the White House is going to sign it.

00:37:02.400 Oh, sure, cool.

00:37:04.380 Congress and the White House said they were going to release all of the Kennedy files.

00:37:07.060 And we got a lot of the Kennedy, we didn't.

00:37:12.460 Releasing the Epstein files.

00:37:13.960 I want you to file that away with the tooth fairy and working from home. 0.98

00:37:18.040 It's not real.

00:37:19.220 It's not real.

00:37:20.120 You're not going to get it.

00:37:20.880 You're going to spin your wheels on it.

00:37:23.040 Epstein either is who people are saying he is.

00:37:26.080 The elites say he is, which is, you know, he's a sex freak.

00:37:27.900 It has nothing to do with intelligence or politics or anything.

00:37:30.420 Or you're never going to find anything more.

00:37:35.620 We're about to get to the bottom of it.

00:37:37.780 Yep.

00:37:38.280 Uh-huh.

00:37:39.640 That's great.

00:37:41.200 Tell me more about the tooth fairy.

00:37:42.500 Tell me more about working from home.

00:37:43.560 It's not.

00:37:43.840 These two are flights of fancy.

00:37:48.000 Okay.

00:37:50.080 Good news out of the political order.

00:37:52.060 Some rough news today, but some good news.

00:37:53.440 We're hearing a lot about the collapse in Trump's support, especially among young voters.

00:38:02.740 Young voters swung in the 2024 election.

00:38:06.240 Ten points to the right.

00:38:07.740 Now, this is based on the numbers from 2020, an election that was totally legitimate in every way.

00:38:14.200 And we should totally use, I think I'm speaking to YouTube right now.

00:38:17.200 It's totally, there's no question about the 2020 election.

00:38:20.940 There's none.

00:38:22.340 Obviously, part of the reason that you saw some of those swings is because the 2020 election,

00:38:26.540 whatever you think about it, was conducted in a radically different way than other elections

00:38:30.060 because COVID locked down the country.

00:38:32.380 Sorry, political operators locked down the country.

00:38:35.180 And then political activists use that as an excuse to upend our voting system and make it much more

00:38:41.400 open to fraud and just change the way the elections are conducted.

00:38:44.460 So anyway, I don't really even buy the full swing.

00:38:48.060 I think that's not as rapid and sudden as some people are saying.

00:38:51.860 I think that's a longer trend.

00:38:53.700 And the trend is continuing.

00:38:55.480 Gen Z has not turned on Republicans.

00:38:58.120 Quite the opposite.

00:38:59.720 There's a piece in Newsweek just came out.

00:39:02.540 Gen Z is more confident in Republicans than Democrats.

00:39:07.140 They're more confident.

00:39:08.380 According to a poll just released, Gen Z views Republicans as being more,

00:39:14.000 a better bet, I guess, for the midterms and looking ahead to 2028.

00:39:21.420 So why does this matter?

00:39:23.120 Because young people always vote for the Democrats until recently.

00:39:26.840 And now you've seen a huge shift.

00:39:28.460 And why do they trust the Republicans more?

00:39:31.360 Because the Republicans are viewed more as outsiders.

00:39:34.180 Because Republicans are speaking more to their issues.

00:39:36.300 Why do they trust the Republicans more?

00:39:38.000 Because the Republicans have moved further right in response to changing political circumstances.

00:39:43.020 So this is good.

00:39:43.480 Again, there is going to be a major battle.

00:39:45.980 We are already in the midst of a fight over the midterms and really over 2028.

00:39:50.800 So much of what we're talking about right now is about J.D. Vance.

00:39:55.100 So much of the supposed right-wing civil war is really just a fight over the vice president, J.D. Vance.

00:39:59.640 Because he is the heir apparent.

00:40:01.280 As of right now, it doesn't look like there's going to be much of a 2028 Republican primary.

00:40:05.200 So it's a fight over him.

00:40:06.900 And the headlines that you're seeing, oh, the GOP is losing support among young people.

00:40:10.780 A lot of that is just information warfare, kind of like pushing the electorate to what they were hoping for in the election.

00:40:24.520 Okay.

00:40:26.020 Now, I really want to get to a story about a childless woman who's gone viral on TikTok.

00:40:32.220 Because I think it totally misses the point.

00:40:33.660 I also want to get to, I fell into some controversy yesterday.

00:40:38.740 Which is, I stated my least popular political view on Twitter.

00:40:43.700 And I got ratioed heavy for it, but I was right.

00:40:45.800 I was right.

00:40:46.340 And it's that HOAs are awesome.

00:40:47.700 We'll have to get to that tomorrow because we've got too much going on today.

00:40:50.020 I mentioned that tonight we're going to be filming another episode of my show, Bar Fight, where I argue with two libs in a bar full of rowdy people.

00:40:56.080 And one of the libs that I was debating on last episode of Bar Fight, Brian Recker, has a very interesting book.

00:41:02.480 A very wrong book, but a very interesting book nonetheless.

00:41:04.680 And I really enjoyed talking to him on Bar Fight.

00:41:07.160 And so I want to bring him on for Theology Thursday because he says that hell is bad and we should stop worrying about it.

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