The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1872 - Elon Musk Says He Believes in Jesus Christ？

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00:01:43.200 The U.S. is $38 trillion in debt.

00:01:46.540 The debt-to-GDP ratio is over 120%.

00:01:49.600 Thankfully, rising Democrat star and U.S. Senate candidate Jasmine Crockett has a solution to America's enormous fiscal problems. 1.00

00:01:59.840 And the solution is no taxes for black people. 1.00

00:02:05.880 Just this past week, I saw, I don't remember which celebrity, but it was actually a celebrity. 0.77

00:02:10.680 And I was like, I don't know that that's not necessarily a bad idea.

00:02:13.560 But I'd have to think through it a lot.

00:02:15.040 But one of the things that they propose is black folk not have to pay taxes for a certain amount of time.

00:02:19.560 Because then again, that puts money back in your pocket.

00:02:22.580 But at the same time, it may not be as objectionable to some people about actually giving out dollars.

00:02:30.020 But obviously, then you start dealing with the different tax brackets and things like that.

00:02:33.560 And that's one of the reasons that, you know, we argue the reparations make sense.

00:02:38.340 Because so many black folk, not only do you owe for the labor that was stolen and killed and all the other things, right? 1.00

00:02:46.000 But the fact is, like, we end up being so far behind, right?

00:02:49.960 And so it's like, how do you bring forth people?

00:02:52.960 Exactly.

00:02:53.820 And so it's like, if you do the no tax thing, for people that are already, say, struggling and aren't really paying taxes in the first place, it doesn't really.

00:03:03.920 Exactly.

00:03:05.020 They may want those checks like they got.

00:03:07.740 Exactly.

00:03:09.520 Now, some will object that the median black taxpayer already receives a significantly greater proportion of benefits to taxes paid relative to the median white taxpayer.

00:03:20.420 However, others will observe that Sicilians are arguably North African.

00:03:27.060 And I own a very convincing Coogee sweater from the 1990s.

00:03:31.220 And I look forward to making those honky devils pay all the taxes my fellow Nubian kings. 1.00

00:03:37.620 I'm Michael Knowles. 0.89

00:03:38.360 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

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00:04:18.000 Anyway, we'll get to all Tinder for kids.

00:04:20.420 We'll get to that momentarily.

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00:05:39.280 Jasmine Crockett, look, if I can pass, I don't know, the Sicilians, we may all make jokes and everything.

00:05:47.080 There was that famous line from True Romance.

00:05:48.740 But I think the Sicilians still probably count as white, which means that I will still have to pay taxes, which means I oppose this policy. 0.85

00:05:55.980 But it is delightful to watch Jasmine Crockett suddenly transform into the black lady Milton Friedman.

00:06:02.880 It's just Miltonia Friedman because did you hear her rationale for why the black people shouldn't pay taxes beyond slavery and oppression, whatever?

00:06:13.800 She says from an economic perspective, she said, well, if the black people don't pay taxes to the government, then that means there's going to be more money in their pockets.

00:06:22.620 And that's going to help stimulate the economy because those individual taxpayers are actually better at spending their own money than the government is.

00:06:29.580 This is like Reaganomics.

00:06:30.980 This is straight out of the 80s GOP talking points playbook.

00:06:36.020 So I don't know, maybe Jasmine Crockett's going to have a decent shot in that Texas Senate race. 1.00

00:06:41.540 She's more establishment Republican now than the GOP is. 0.97

00:06:46.540 Because the GOP has moved more populist on economics.

00:06:50.220 Here you have Miltonia Friedman.

00:06:51.380 She's going to be talking about the Laffer curve next.

00:06:53.700 Well, actually, you know, there's a marginal tax rate at which the government actually increases receipts by.

00:06:57.720 Okay, all right, that's great.

00:06:59.100 That's great.

00:06:59.460 Love it.

00:06:59.800 Love it.

00:07:01.120 Also, if we're just talking about, you know, who would deserve to pay less in taxes, for whom it would make more sense to pay less in taxes.

00:07:09.100 Probably you would say it's the people who pay more into the system than the benefits that they get out of it relatively.

00:07:15.760 Wouldn't that would be?

00:07:16.400 And I don't think her argument carries a ton of weight.

00:07:19.080 Now, speaking of African Americans and not paying taxes, Jennifer Welch, another rising star on the left. 1.00

00:07:26.980 Jennifer Welch's podcast, your lady, is very provocative and who apparently has relationships with top Democrats all over the country.

00:07:34.140 She has just come out and argued that Elon Musk, the most prominent and the wealthiest African American, Elon Musk, pays no taxes.

00:07:45.000 He's an immigrant who pays no taxes. 1.00

00:07:47.300 And yet he's buddies with Trump.

00:07:48.320 It's wild how rural America, like they believe that land, you know, votes. 0.95

00:07:56.580 And they don't understand that they're being taxed at a higher rate than somebody like Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk, who I want to remind everybody that's against immigration, is a f***ing immigrant. 0.98

00:08:12.140 I just think it's really important to remind everybody all the time that Elon Musk is a f***ing immigrant that doesn't pay taxes, who is a parasite off the American taxpayer. 1.00

00:08:20.940 Okay, Elon Musk is an immigrant, I guess that's true, and he doesn't pay any taxes. 1.00

00:08:25.160 He's a parasite on the American taxpayer. 0.97

00:08:27.880 He's taken more out than he's putting in. 1.00

00:08:30.420 So you hear this canard a lot from the left.

00:08:32.960 They say, these rich people, they don't pay any taxes.

00:08:36.240 Even Warren Buffett, he made a smarter version of the argument.

00:08:39.180 He didn't get caught in that ridiculous lie, but he didn't say they pay a lower tax rate than their secretaries, which also isn't true.

00:08:46.020 But let's take a look at Elon's taxes, because it is true that some years, based on publicly available data, some years Elon Musk has paid relatively little in taxes.

00:08:58.260 For instance, in 2019 and 2020, he paid less than $100,000 in taxes.

00:09:03.480 So, still, $100,000 in taxes is much, much more than most people are paying in taxes.

00:09:09.800 But still, you say, okay, for the richest guy in the world to be paying less than $100,000 in taxes per year, yeah, that is relatively little, right?

00:09:16.360 Now, of course, the reason is that Elon Musk makes most of his money from returns on his investments, because he owns all of these companies.

00:09:23.780 He's not going in and punching a time card, he's not really getting a W-2, is he?

00:09:27.080 He owns some of the biggest companies in the world, and so when the companies do well, he makes more money.

00:09:31.640 When the companies do worse, he makes less money.

00:09:33.940 In some years, he's going to make a lot of money, some years he's going to make less money.

00:09:36.460 So, in those two years, his tax return showed that it was a relatively less profitable year.

00:09:42.420 Other years, however, let's look at 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024.

00:09:48.340 In those years, Elon Musk paid between $11 and $18 billion in taxes each year, $11 and $18 billion.

00:09:57.460 The median American will pay between $279,000 and $306,000 in taxes over the course of their entire lives.

00:10:07.080 That is income tax, that is federal income tax, that is state tax, that is capital gains tax, that is FICA, your Social Security.

00:10:17.180 That's all those taxes, they're going to pay between $279,000 and $306,000 in the course of their lives.

00:10:23.680 Elon, for 2021, two, three, four, paid between $11 and $18 billion, which means that Elon paid, even using the rosiest numbers for the median American taxpayer,

00:10:34.060 Elon paid, in one single year, 58,000 times what the median American will pay in taxes over the course of their entire lives.

00:10:47.680 58,000 times.

00:10:49.020 And then, just to hit her point right on the nose, she says, and Elon's an immigrant.

00:10:53.280 So then, when you look at the immigrants, who don't really contribute to America relative to the native population, 0.93

00:10:58.100 who contribute much less to America relative to the native population,

00:11:00.940 Elon, in one single year, pays 73,000 times what the average immigrant to America will pay over the course of their lifetime.

00:11:09.840 So, I don't know that this is really an argument that the left wants to get into.

00:11:14.220 I think it's a little bit weak, and it's certainly disingenuous.

00:11:18.380 It's certainly totally false.

00:11:20.100 Now, the left has made hay with this kind of argument before.

00:11:24.780 I don't know.

00:11:25.480 I think that's shifted.

00:11:26.720 I think people see now the reality of immigration. 1.00

00:11:29.020 What we were told for our whole lives is diversity is our strength, and Americans are lazy and fat and stupid, 1.00

00:11:36.660 and we need to be culturally enriched by immigrants. 1.00

00:11:39.480 We don't really look into who those immigrants are.

00:11:41.120 Now, I think we're seeing the reality of it, which is that the immigrants who cross the southern border do so with the help of criminal cartels, 0.97

00:11:46.660 terrorist cartels, actually.

00:11:48.200 And the Somalis who come over here bilk the Minnesota taxpayer for a billion dollars, 1.00

00:11:52.300 and they pay less in taxes, and they take more in welfare, and they commit way more crimes, especially if you include immigration crimes.

00:11:57.880 And they fray social solidarity, not even necessarily through any fault of their own.

00:12:01.980 They just come from different cultures.

00:12:03.880 It just doesn't pan out.

00:12:05.900 And if you are going to take any immigrants at all, guess which immigrants it's going to be? 1.00

00:12:11.600 If I had my druthers, it would probably be my favorite African-American immigrant.

00:12:19.200 Is it going to be an African-American immigrant?

00:12:20.880 You mean an African immigrant?

00:12:21.860 And you can be.

00:12:22.240 Anyway, it would be Elon. 0.97

00:12:23.760 I think he would probably be better for America than the Somalis, the pirates who come over and steal a billion dollars. 1.00

00:12:30.920 The left would say the opposite.

00:12:31.880 The left would say, no, we hate the guy who built this big company and is really helping America on the global stage and help get Trump elected.

00:12:38.720 We want the Somali pirate. 1.00

00:12:41.000 Okay, well, let's dig into Elon a little bit, because Elon's gone viral for a comment that he just made on the Katie Miller podcast.

00:12:48.480 Elon was asked, not about money, not about immigration, not about politics.

00:12:51.840 He was asked about religion, what he believes.

00:12:55.540 Here's his answer.

00:12:58.040 Who do you look up to the most?

00:13:00.320 The creator.

00:13:01.880 What's your current position on God?

00:13:06.220 God is the creator.

00:13:07.600 You don't believe in God, though, do you?

00:13:09.600 Well, I believe this universe came from something.

00:13:14.240 People have different labels.

00:13:16.900 Okay, so a lot of people are really excited by this answer.

00:13:20.760 I guess it's better than nothing.

00:13:22.220 It's better than saying I don't believe in God or I'm some Reddit-tier atheist.

00:13:24.940 But I don't love that answer.

00:13:28.780 I don't love that answer.

00:13:29.480 And I think Elon is super smart, and he's been unbelievably helpful to all of us when it comes to the political order, getting Trump elected, opening up speech for conservatives on social media.

00:13:41.720 You know, the guy, he's right and brilliant about so many things.

00:13:45.140 I think he's paid less attention to religion, to the ultimate questions.

00:13:48.980 And I think these answers, they're not quite there.

00:13:51.080 So we'll get into where he goes wrong.

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00:15:05.220 Elon's politics.

00:15:06.340 I know the left wants to call him a fascist or something.

00:15:08.860 Elon's politics are classically liberal.

00:15:12.920 Lowercase l, classically liberal.

00:15:15.500 I'm not a liberal.

00:15:16.800 I'm a conservative.

00:15:18.080 There are plenty of people on the right who say, you know, I'm a conservative because I'm a liberal.

00:15:21.680 I'm a classical liberal.

00:15:22.660 I love the ideas of the enlightenment.

00:15:24.760 And what Elon is espousing here is enlightenment deism.

00:15:29.740 He says God is the creator.

00:15:33.080 And that's it.

00:15:34.380 That's not what Christians believe. 0.99

00:15:35.980 If Christians believe that God is constantly involved in the particular affairs of human beings, that divine providence governs the entire world, and that God intervenes directly into the world, that he actually entered into history through the incarnation, that he established a real church, that he has representatives on earth, that he gave us sacraments, that we can pray to him, that we can have a personal relationship with him.

00:16:02.180 The enlightenment deist view is the divine clockmaker, the watchmaker, who sets up everything meticulously, perfectly, and then just lets it go, and is not involved.

00:16:13.340 In many ways, that view of God is closer to Islam, where the relationship, the gap between a human being and God is unbridgeable. 0.94

00:16:21.980 But Christianity, it is bridgeable because God becomes man, because there is the God-man of Jesus Christ who enters into history and who dies for our sins.

00:16:32.740 Major, major, major difference.

00:16:35.980 That's the view that shaped our whole civilization.

00:16:38.520 Then during the enlightenment, you had these people say, yeah, well, we don't want all that stuff anymore.

00:16:43.500 We don't want the particularity.

00:16:45.280 We don't want the scandal of the cross.

00:16:47.680 We don't want, you know, we want Christianity without Christ.

00:16:51.020 So yeah, we believe in God because the existence of God can be known with certainty by natural reason.

00:16:55.700 We know that the universe doesn't come from nowhere, as Elon rightly points out.

00:17:00.360 But that's it.

00:17:00.940 That's the furthest we're willing to go.

00:17:04.120 Okay, all right, fine.

00:17:05.580 That's a very common view, but it's insufficient.

00:17:08.320 It doesn't explain the religious longing that human beings have.

00:17:12.540 It doesn't explain our intuitions.

00:17:14.360 It doesn't really totally explain the intelligibility of the universe.

00:17:18.300 It doesn't answer our questions.

00:17:22.540 We long for more.

00:17:23.540 Elon longs for more.

00:17:24.380 Elon says, you know, he's a kind of a cultural Christian.

00:17:27.120 He doesn't really believe in Christianity.

00:17:28.760 He doesn't really follow Christianity.

00:17:29.880 But he likes Christianity, and he wants to believe some of it.

00:17:36.360 I believe in, like, the teachings of Christ.

00:17:41.400 I believe, you know, that he's, like, I believe in the Christian principles.

00:17:48.080 You know, love thy neighbor.

00:17:49.920 I believe in turn the other cheek, which is very important for you to have forgiveness.

00:17:55.060 Because if you don't have forgiveness, then you have an endless cycle of retribution.

00:17:59.180 Okay, I believe in the Christian principles.

00:18:01.200 Again, here, I mean this a little bit as a compliment.

00:18:05.340 Largely as a compliment.

00:18:06.760 Elon is kind of a lowercase l liberal.

00:18:09.900 He believes in the principles of the Enlightenment.

00:18:12.380 What he's saying here is something that John Adams said.

00:18:14.260 John Adams, who was one of the more conservative founding fathers,

00:18:16.560 who said the principles of Christianity are the principles on which independence was won.

00:18:20.360 Okay, that's great.

00:18:22.240 So he says he's culturally Christian, but he's not a practicing Christian.

00:18:24.940 He doesn't belong to the church.

00:18:26.460 He doesn't avail himself of the sacraments.

00:18:29.080 He doesn't respect the authority of the church, necessarily.

00:18:33.740 But he says, look, even though I'm not really a Christian, I believe in Jesus' teachings.

00:18:39.480 I really respect you.

00:18:40.560 He's a great moral teacher.

00:18:42.640 Okay, a lot of people say this.

00:18:43.920 I love Jesus' teachings, but I don't necessarily believe that he's God.

00:18:48.660 You know, I don't.

00:18:49.420 I said, well, that's tough because one of Christ's teachings is that he's God.

00:18:55.320 So you can't really say that.

00:18:57.340 You can't really say, look, I don't believe that Christ is God.

00:19:00.240 I don't believe in Christianity as a religion, but I think he was a great moral teacher.

00:19:03.960 Well, one of the things he taught is that he's God.

00:19:05.860 So I guess you don't believe in his teachings.

00:19:09.740 Well, I like, you know, the teachings about be nice.

00:19:11.880 No, he didn't really say be nice, first of all.

00:19:13.320 He said, love your neighbor.

00:19:14.360 You know, he said, you know, pray for those who persecute you.

00:19:18.400 He said, love the Lord your God above all things, and your neighbor is your son.

00:19:21.160 Okay.

00:19:21.700 Yeah, he said those things.

00:19:23.420 He also said, if you don't eat my flesh and drink my blood, you have no life in you.

00:19:29.900 He also taught that.

00:19:31.180 Do you believe in that teaching?

00:19:32.700 Do you believe that you have to take up your cross and carry it?

00:19:35.920 Do you believe that Christ is the way, the truth, and the life?

00:19:40.780 And the only way to the Father is through the Son?

00:19:42.700 Because that's what he taught too.

00:19:46.020 And so if you say, I believe Jesus is a great moral teacher, but he's not God,

00:19:49.460 that's a contradictory statement.

00:19:52.360 Or at best, the most charitable read of that view is that you think Christ is a great moral teacher and a liar.

00:19:58.560 How can a liar be a great moral teacher? 0.99

00:20:02.180 Liars are immoral. 1.00

00:20:04.280 Or you think he's a great moral teacher, but he's a lunatic. 1.00

00:20:06.820 Well, if he's a lunatic, then he's not a great teacher, is he? 0.95

00:20:09.500 Because teachers have to teach the truth. 0.96

00:20:11.480 Teachers have to have a grasp on reality.

00:20:14.260 It just doesn't make sense.

00:20:16.820 One of Christ's teachings is that the poor will always be with us.

00:20:19.140 Elon recently said that we're going to eradicate poverty soon.

00:20:22.400 I don't mean to beat up on Elon.

00:20:24.040 Like, this is a good start.

00:20:25.320 I really, I'm glad.

00:20:26.260 This is great.

00:20:27.200 I love that Elon says, yeah, I believe in a creator.

00:20:30.720 I believe in God, at least, as the creator of heaven and earth.

00:20:33.840 That's great.

00:20:35.280 And Elon has been busy thinking about a lot of other things and accomplishing much more than the vast majority of human beings could ever imagine to do in their lifetimes.

00:20:43.040 He's one of the most exceptional people in the history, certainly in modern history.

00:20:48.140 But he hasn't spent enough time thinking about these questions, the eternal questions.

00:20:53.680 And if he has, because he's obviously very intelligent, if he has the instinct to start to follow some of these ideas, he needs to follow them more seriously.

00:21:03.000 He's too smart to be making these kinds of logical errors, which to me just means he's just kind of distracted by other questions.

00:21:12.440 Okay, that's fine.

00:21:13.480 But if we're going to take it seriously, you know, look, this is ultimately what, it matters more.

00:21:16.960 It matters more that we go to heaven than that we go to Mars.

00:21:20.520 Because even if you make it all the way to Mars, you're going to die eventually.

00:21:25.100 You're going to turn to worm food or Mars worms and a Martian food.

00:21:28.600 I don't know.

00:21:28.900 But eternity matters more than temporality.

00:21:32.300 So we got to take these ideas seriously.

00:21:36.000 Very, very important.

00:21:38.000 Okay, speaking of authority and religion, President Trump issued a magnificent religious statement.

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00:23:47.660 President Trump.

00:23:48.880 This was on the Feast of the Immaculate Conception on Monday.

00:23:51.960 I know it's Wednesday, but I really want to get to it.

00:23:53.340 President Trump sends out this presidential message.

00:23:57.360 This is on a feast commemorating the traditional Christian idea and the dogmatically Catholic idea, in fact, as far as I'm concerned, that Mary was conceived without sin.

00:24:09.840 That Mary, being the new Eve, being the Ark of the New Covenant, was immaculate, preserved by a singular grace from her son, from the stain of original sin.

00:24:24.060 This is a longstanding Christian belief.

00:24:27.060 It was defined dogmatically within the Catholic Church.

00:24:30.160 Many Christians, baptized Christians, who are not Catholic believe in this.

00:24:34.440 Some baptized Christians don't believe in this, but nevertheless, this is what President Trump had to say.

00:24:40.720 Today, I recognize every American celebrating December 8th as a holy day honoring the faith, humility, and love of Mary, mother of Jesus, one of the greatest figures in the Bible.

00:24:48.440 On the Feast of the Immaculate Conception, Catholics celebrate what they believe to be Mary's freedom from original sin as the mother of God.

00:24:53.360 She first entered recorded history as a young woman when, according to Holy Scripture, the angel Gabriel greeted her in the village of Nazareth with news of a miracle.

00:25:01.080 Hail, favored one, the Lord is with you.

00:25:03.220 You will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall name him Jesus.

00:25:07.080 In one of the most profound and consequential acts of history, Mary heroically accepted God's will with trust and humility.

00:25:12.700 Behold, I am the handmaiden of the Lord.

00:25:14.700 May it be done to me according to your word.

00:25:17.200 Mary's decision forever altered the course of humanity.

00:25:19.280 Nine months later, God became man when Mary gave birth to a son, Jesus, who would go on to offer his life on the cross for the redemption of sins and the salvation of the world.

00:25:27.600 A beautiful, beautiful religious statement.

00:25:30.880 And even if you don't agree with the Immaculate Conception yet, even if you don't agree with that as a matter of religion,

00:25:37.220 surely you must say this is wonderful that President Trump is speaking about religion and about Christianity in this open way.

00:25:44.920 This was very common in American history until the last few decades, and things have gone to pot in the last few decades, and now he's doing it again.

00:25:53.800 But here's the real key.

00:25:55.960 It says, for nearly 250 years, Mary has played a distinct role in our great American story.

00:26:00.060 Here's the political import coming out of the White House.

00:26:02.160 In 1792, less than a decade after the end of the Revolutionary War, Bishop John Carroll, the first Catholic bishop in the U.S.

00:26:08.200 and cousin of the signer of the Declaration of Independence, Charles Carroll, only Catholic to sign the Declaration, consecrated our young nation to the Mother of Christ.

00:26:15.420 Less than a quarter century later, Catholics contributed to General Andrew Jackson's, or attributed to General Andrew Jackson's stunning victory of the British in the climactic battle of New Orleans, to Mary.

00:26:25.580 I didn't even know that.

00:26:26.280 Apparently, Catholics believe that Mary's intercession, just as we attribute the victory at the Battle of Lepanto over the Muslims to Mary's intercession, we attribute General Jackson's victory over the British at the Battle of New Orleans.

00:26:39.800 Every year, Catholics celebrate a massive Thanksgiving in New Orleans on this day.

00:26:43.060 American legends like Elizabeth Ann Seton, Francis Xavier Cabrini, Fulton Sheen, who spent their lives glorifying God, had a deep devotion to Mary.

00:26:51.560 Okay, it goes on and on and on.

00:26:52.560 It's so, so beautiful.

00:26:53.220 It goes on about the role of Mary and Catholicism in the American story.

00:26:57.860 And what I find so delightful about this, other than the fact that I'm a Catholic and I think that's just good, is the way in which history and our telling of history has changed.

00:27:09.620 This is really, really instructive.

00:27:12.440 Even if you don't care at all about religion, if you're not Catholic, Christian.

00:27:15.500 60 years ago, 70, 80 years ago, it would be unthinkable that in the United States of America, there would be a statement this explicitly Catholic coming from the President of the United States.

00:27:30.740 200, 300 years ago, it would be absolutely preposterous to imagine that the chief executive of the country, outside of Maryland, that the chief executive of the country would be speaking in this Catholic way. 0.93

00:27:45.640 Arthur Schlesinger famously said that anti-Catholicism is the deepest prejudice in America.

00:27:51.640 And yet now we're getting this kind of, why?

00:27:54.080 Why is that happening?

00:27:55.940 Well, you know, I think the weight and force of religious truth is helpful here.

00:28:00.840 But two, let's not forget that around that same time that there was all this anti-Catholicism, you had Alexei de Tocqueville, the greatest analyst of American politics and the American political order.

00:28:09.900 He makes this bold, shocking, audacious prediction that over time, America will become Catholic. 0.94

00:28:15.140 This Protestant country will become Catholic or atheist, but it will trend in those two directions.

00:28:21.260 Seems preposterous at the time.

00:28:22.700 We've talked about his reasoning for that before, which I find persuasive.

00:28:25.280 It's kind of off-the-wall reasoning, but I think it's persuasive.

00:28:28.780 You're seeing that happen right now.

00:28:30.120 And even beyond the level of religion, even if you're Catholic, if you're anti-Catholic, if you're anti-Christian generally, if you're, this is what happens in history.

00:28:40.840 Our history changes, the telling of history changes, because our self-conception constantly changes, because our country is constantly changing, because political orders are dynamic.

00:28:50.500 There's nothing wrong with that.

00:28:51.580 Some people say that's revisionism.

00:28:53.240 That's crazy.

00:28:54.200 That's how history is told.

00:28:57.560 That's just how history works.

00:29:00.120 When I was a kid, Reagan was the man, Nixon was terrible.

00:29:03.760 These days, a little shine has come off of Ronald Reagan, and Nixon's been vindicated again.

00:29:08.380 That happens.

00:29:09.860 That plays on every level of politics, every level of history.

00:29:13.860 History is necessarily rewritten.

00:29:16.140 And I, for one, am quite excited by the way that I think certain truths are really coming to the top of history.

00:29:22.620 Let's not forget, I mean, all of the Americans dedicated to the, to the, the Tilma, our Lady of Guadalupe, this Marian apparition that led to the conversion of millions of indigenous.

00:29:34.080 That's a story for another time.

00:29:35.260 Okay, speaking of presidential, presidential power, there's a major argument going on right now at the Supreme Court over presidential power.

00:29:42.500 This is Trump v.

00:29:44.680 Slaughter.

00:29:45.000 And the argument is over whether or not President Trump has the right to fire people in the executive branch. 0.98

00:29:51.460 It's like ridiculous.

00:29:53.460 For most people, they hear this and say, hold on, you're asking if the president of the United States, the head of the executive branch, has the right to fire people in the executive branch. 0.91

00:30:01.840 But, for 90 some odd years now, we have been told, no, the president doesn't.

00:30:10.160 This was a major issue in Trump's first term.

00:30:12.520 He wanted to drain the swamp.

00:30:13.840 He was elected to drain the swamp, but he couldn't drain the swamp.

00:30:16.780 He couldn't fire people, even within the branch of government that he supposedly controlled.

00:30:24.220 So, the court is hearing these arguments now.

00:30:26.520 And, as we all expect, Justice Ketanji Jackson comes in with the most preposterous arguments any of them are making.

00:30:40.300 Some issues, some matters, some areas should be handled in this way by nonpartisan experts.

00:30:50.140 That Congress is saying that expertise matters with respect to aspects of the economy and transportation and the various independent agencies that we have.

00:31:01.240 So, having a president come in and fire all the scientists and the doctors and the economists and the PhDs and replacing them with loyalists and people who don't know anything is actually not in the best interest of the citizens of the United States.

00:31:18.420 These issues should not be in presidential control.

00:31:22.160 So, can you speak to me about the danger of allowing, in these various areas, the president to actually control the Transportation Board and potentially the Federal Reserve and all these other independent agencies?

00:31:37.000 In these particular areas, we would like to have independence.

00:31:40.280 We don't want the president controlling.

00:31:42.700 Okay, we don't.

00:31:43.540 It's terrible.

00:31:44.320 Could you imagine if the chief executive controlled the executive branch?

00:31:47.700 What would happen?

00:31:48.420 So, here you have a Democrat, Ketanji Jackson, a partisan Democrat on the Supreme Court, arguing very, very explicitly against democracy and our mixed regime, which is heavily Democratic.

00:32:06.780 In our country, which is supposed to be self-government, the people elect the president to run the executive branch, and Ketanji Jackson says, well, the guy that the people elect should not be able to fire people within that branch.

00:32:24.140 We can't let the president, elected by the people have control.

00:32:30.340 We need to give power to the experts and the PhDs and the technocrats and the supposedly independent individuals who can govern us better than we can govern ourselves.

00:32:40.940 An argument coming from a partisan Democrat on the Supreme Court to try to control the executive branch.

00:32:48.380 Where did this even come from?

00:32:50.240 This all comes from a case in 1935, Humphreys, Executor versus the United States, which was a case that established this notion that the president does not totally control the executive branch.

00:33:03.500 And let's just zoom it out a little bit from 90 years ago is, should the president be able to control the executive branch?

00:33:12.720 Today, the Democrats are saying no.

00:33:15.500 The Democrats are saying no because the president is Donald Trump.

00:33:20.400 However, one imagines that if we had a Democrat president in office, they would support substantially more authority for the president.

00:33:29.320 So then let's try to take the parties out of it generally.

00:33:34.180 Should the president have more power or less power over his own branch?

00:33:39.320 Not the power to fire Supreme Court justices, not the power to fire members of Congress, just the power over his own branch of government.

00:33:47.760 The consensus view today among both parties, I think, is that the chief threat to liberty comes from the president having too much power.

00:34:00.200 I hear this on the right just as much as I hear this on the left.

00:34:03.600 We need to give Congress more power or we need to give the Supreme Court more power.

00:34:08.020 The Supreme Court already has a lot of power.

00:34:09.300 And then when the Supreme Court does things that Democrats don't like, they say we need to pack the Supreme Court. 0.72

00:34:12.960 We need to weaken the Supreme Court.

00:34:14.120 But they all agree we need to weaken the power of the president.

00:34:17.780 That's how we'll defend liberty. 0.93

00:34:19.180 I think that's ridiculous.

00:34:21.500 I think the reality is the chief threat to liberty within the organization of the federal government comes from the president not having enough power.

00:34:29.460 I think we need much more power in the presidency.

00:34:33.020 It might be an unpopular view among some of the, I don't know, the libertarians or the liberals or maybe the squishy types.

00:34:40.060 But what's the alternative?

00:34:42.220 Congress doesn't want to do anything.

00:34:43.360 Congress doesn't want to do anything.

00:34:45.920 Republicans control Congress right now, right?

00:34:47.960 They're not doing much of anything at all.

00:34:50.320 In the Senate, they're not doing much of anything at all either.

00:34:54.100 They're not, it's not, we're not just going to give power back.

00:34:56.740 Congress gave away a lot of that power.

00:34:59.400 So the question is not who's going to control things, president or Congress.

00:35:02.600 The question is who's going to control things, the president or the technocrats, the bureaucrats, the deep, we call it the deep state.

00:35:09.380 What's better?

00:35:10.200 Now, I'm not even going so far as to say we need to abolish the federal agencies.

00:35:15.960 I'm not even going so far as to say that we shouldn't have bureaucrats.

00:35:18.660 Every big government has bureaucrats. 0.84

00:35:20.260 I get that.

00:35:20.780 It's been true for the whole history of the world.

00:35:23.340 I'm just saying that the chief executive ought to be in charge.

00:35:27.300 I don't think our constitutional system is such that the deputy assistant, deputy functionary at the Federal Trade Commission has power over the president of the United States.

00:35:37.980 That's totally crazy.

00:35:39.520 This is what is meant by the unitary executive theory.

00:35:43.720 It's a pretty simple theory.

00:35:45.060 It's that the chief executive has control over the executive branch.

00:35:48.020 And that's simple.

00:35:50.780 A lot of the last 10 years of politics has been upending conventional consensus understanding.

00:35:56.380 And I think one of the biggest ones is the real threat to liberty is not from a president who's too strong.

00:36:02.500 It's from a president who's too weak.

00:36:04.420 Speaking of President Trump, Marjorie Taylor Greene, once the rock-ribbed ally of President Trump, she and Trump are in a big fight.

00:36:13.300 They're in a big, big fight.

00:36:14.860 She's going on liberal news channels to smack him. 1.00

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00:36:42.240 I want to tell you about Tito Bandito 6.

00:36:45.400 Who says, this is just generally speed.

00:36:47.780 I don't know if this is directed at Jasmine Crockett or someone else. 1.00

00:36:51.420 It says, you are without doubt the dumbest congressman I've ever heard of. 1.00

00:36:55.840 But you have heard of me. 1.00

00:36:57.460 Yeah, I love that response.

00:36:59.060 I think that's going to be a theme of the Jasmine Crockett for Senate campaign. 0.96

00:37:03.040 Yeah, you're making fun of me for saying some dumb thing. 0.86

00:37:05.400 But guess what? 0.96

00:37:05.900 You're talking about me.

00:37:06.800 And you know what?

00:37:07.340 The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.

00:37:10.820 Okay, before we get to MTG fighting with President Trump, in this episode of Michael

00:37:14.280 And I sit down with former high-end male escort Sean Dearing, who reveals how Sean Diddy Combs

00:37:18.940 personally hired him for illicit nights with Diddy's girlfriends long before the raids,

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00:37:34.620 So I don't know who I'm seeing.

00:37:39.040 And so I show up to the address, I go up to the door, knock, and she opens the door.

00:37:43.000 So you say it's very performative.

00:37:44.300 She's like, okay, sit there.

00:37:45.560 She puts the towel down.

00:37:46.560 It's like, hey, just don't pour the baby oil all over me.

00:37:49.580 I see like a little slit in the room.

00:37:52.220 There were times in the sessions where I saw that demon, the demon that she talked about.

00:37:58.040 Personal demon, you know, these are the demons that are reflecting me.

00:38:00.480 Or Diddy.

00:38:02.420 Yeah, Diddy.

00:38:02.980 You actually did this stuff.

00:38:04.780 Your name and your picture were revealed in court.

00:38:06.880 Revealed in court, and then it started to go mainstream when 50 posted that picture. 1.00

00:38:10.640 So this guy is a sex-crazed animal. 0.99

00:38:15.260 She was under his control. 1.00

00:38:17.480 Because there's video of him beating her in a hallway.

00:38:21.160 I was supposed to be there that night.

00:38:23.640 I was supposed to.

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00:38:39.920 Marjorie Taylor Greene smacking Trump.

00:38:43.600 Here she is on CNN. 0.99

00:38:45.100 To be precise, in addition to what we just heard there, President Trump posted yesterday that you are, quote, and I'm quoting him now, not America first or MAGA, and your, quote, new views are those of a very dumb person. 0.97

00:38:59.440 That's the president of the United States speaking about your, speaking about you. 0.92

00:39:03.020 What's your response to these latest attacks?

00:39:05.920 Well, actually, Wolf, I feel very sorry for President Trump.

00:39:10.440 I genuinely do.

00:39:12.460 It has to be a hard place for someone that is constantly so hateful and puts so much vitriol, name-calling, and really tells lies about people in order to try to get his way or win some kind of fight.

00:39:30.520 And I think that's exactly what's wrong in America today.

00:39:34.060 That's what's wrong in this toxic political environment that has ripped our country apart.

00:39:39.420 And I personally think that that's poor leadership from a president.

00:39:44.720 It's a very bad demeanor, and Americans are very tired of it.

00:39:50.380 Whoa, she's going for the jugular. 1.00

00:39:53.500 MTG is going for the jugular on CNN.

00:39:55.940 Now, in Marjorie Taylor Greene's defense, Trump's smacking her, too.

00:40:01.360 So she's in a political fight, and she's smacking him back. 0.56

00:40:03.980 And maybe she smacked a little bit first. 1.00

00:40:07.060 It was perceived that way by the White House.

00:40:08.780 And then Trump smacks her, and they're just going back and forth. 0.99

00:40:11.860 Okay, still, she says he's a liar. 1.00

00:40:16.840 He's full of hatred and vitriol. 1.00

00:40:19.480 He's a bad leader. 0.92

00:40:21.300 He's tearing this country apart.

00:40:23.960 This raises a lot of questions.

00:40:25.720 Was he not doing that six months ago?

00:40:28.240 You guys were chummy-chummy six months ago.

00:40:30.980 He was a totally different person then.

00:40:32.880 He's only started lying and being hateful and vitriolic and tearing the country apart.

00:40:37.600 Now is that?

00:40:38.460 That's kind of a hard claim to make, that he's just turned on a dime.

00:40:41.260 The only big change, of course, is in this relationship.

00:40:46.060 You guys used to be allies.

00:40:47.260 Now you're enemies.

00:40:48.800 You used to go on Fox News, and now you're going on CNN.

00:40:51.800 Again, is that what is the change here?

00:40:55.200 It is a reminder.

00:40:57.680 Regardless of what you think about Trump or MTG, this is just a reminder about politics.

00:41:02.220 Politics is about people.

00:41:04.180 It is a people business.

00:41:05.660 We sometimes think that politics is primarily about ideology or even just ideas or policy.

00:41:13.740 It's not.

00:41:15.460 Those things are involved, we hope, if you have a functioning polity.

00:41:19.300 But what politics is primarily about is people.

00:41:22.660 Because politics is just how we all live together in community.

00:41:25.720 And the law, lawmaking, law enforcement, the law is an ordinance of reason for the common good by him who has care of the community and promulgated.

00:41:38.440 It's for the common good of people.

00:41:40.720 It's how we all get along.

00:41:42.920 MTG used to be on one team.

00:41:44.800 When she was on that team, she went on certain news networks and she said certain things about certain people.

00:41:52.520 When she was booted off the team or when she chose to leave the team or however it happened, everything shifted.

00:42:00.060 Now she's going to go on different news networks. 0.98

00:42:02.340 And you know what?

00:42:02.840 She's going to say different things about those same people that she was saying six months ago.

00:42:07.720 And that's just how it works.

00:42:09.120 That's just how it works.

00:42:10.740 I'm even reserving moral judgment here.

00:42:12.800 That's just what politics is.

00:42:14.360 Liz Cheney could vote with Trump 95% of the time. 0.87

00:42:18.800 But on the crucial matters, when it really, really, really mattered, Liz Cheney was on the wrong side of it. 0.54

00:42:25.140 And this created a very tough relationship with Donald Trump.

00:42:28.160 And so Liz Cheney, the daughter of Dick Cheney, once thought of by Democrats as Darth Vader.

00:42:34.140 Liz Cheney, she's just a Democrat now. 1.00

00:42:36.740 She just is in every practical sense.

00:42:38.900 She's a Democrat.

00:42:39.440 It doesn't matter that she voted with Trump 95% of the time.

00:42:42.800 That's what's happening here.

00:42:44.540 And it's not just MTG.

00:42:46.120 This happens all the time.

00:42:47.480 And it brings me back to Charlie.

00:42:49.360 Brings me back to our pal Charlie Kirk.

00:42:51.900 Because people always talk about Charlie's contributions to American politics.

00:42:56.640 Oh, the debates were so good.

00:42:58.060 Oh, the podcast was so good.

00:42:59.700 Oh, the books.

00:43:00.440 I love his books.

00:43:01.300 Oh, this.

00:43:01.840 Oh, that.

00:43:02.200 Oh, this.

00:43:02.460 Oh, that.

00:43:02.720 Oh, the campus chapters.

00:43:03.920 Yeah.

00:43:04.060 All of that stuff was really cool.

00:43:06.460 He was really good at all of it.

00:43:09.080 His chief contribution was in keeping the team together.

00:43:14.240 That was Charlie's chief contribution.

00:43:17.040 He did it better than anyone.

00:43:18.880 Frankly, including President Trump, who's very good at it too.

00:43:21.920 Charlie knew how to keep people within a coalition, people who hated each other and who still hate

00:43:27.220 each other.

00:43:27.800 And he knew how to make them all play nice with each other.

00:43:30.820 And he hosted them at his big events, which were the events to go to.

00:43:34.100 We've got AmericaFest coming up now.

00:43:36.400 He knew who to keep out.

00:43:38.200 He knew who wasn't going to work in the coalition, who wasn't valuable enough to bring in, with

00:43:43.000 whom we shouldn't compromise.

00:43:44.100 He knew, and he just managed that beautifully.

00:43:48.600 And that is sorely lacking right now.

00:43:52.740 We need figures on the right.

00:43:55.540 I'm not even saying most of them.

00:43:56.520 Certain of them can beat each other up.

00:43:58.160 And for some people, maybe that's their role, to just fight and punch and pummel and vie for

00:44:02.640 one faction to have more power than the other.

00:44:05.120 I grant that for some people, that's their role.

00:44:07.300 What is sorely lacking right now, because of the assassination of Charlie Kirk, what is lacking

00:44:13.740 is the people who can keep the coalition together, who can keep the team together to achieve

00:44:19.560 political results, because the winners make policy and the losers go home.

00:44:24.740 And so there's always going to be sniping and arguing and hostility.

00:44:30.460 You need that.

00:44:31.480 You need a reasonable degree of that.

00:44:32.920 You also need the peacemakers.

00:44:34.500 You also need the peacemakers.

00:44:35.520 And we don't have very many of those right now in the conservative movement.

00:44:39.640 And that's what everyone, everyone was willing to pick up, pick up and carry on Charlie's

00:44:43.720 legacy when it comes to the debates and the speaking events and this, everyone's, how

00:44:47.480 many people are willing to pick up the legacy of the peacemakers to keep the team together

00:44:50.340 to win?

00:44:52.380 I don't, I don't see as much of that, unfortunately.

00:44:55.380 I don't see, I see it somewhere.

00:44:56.660 I see it in some places.

00:44:58.320 I think the vice president's done a good job of that.

00:44:59.880 I think there's, but I'd like to see more of it.

00:45:03.520 Okay.

00:45:04.080 Speaking of the Trump administration, some big, what people are all sniping at the, even

00:45:07.920 from the right at the Trump administration, here's a big win that's flown under the radar

00:45:11.220 is Tom Holman, border czar on just, just a little, just little thing that the Trump

00:45:16.060 admin has done, namely save 62,000 migrant children from sex trafficking and forced labor.

00:45:22.760 I look at the numbers every day.

00:45:24.220 On Friday, I looked at the numbers.

00:45:26.380 There's over 62,000 children found by the Trump administration.

00:45:31.620 Children that weren't even being looked for in the Biden administration.

00:45:36.720 President Trump saved over 62,000 children's lives.

00:45:41.080 Some of these children were in sex trafficking, we found them.

00:45:43.300 Some were in forced labor.

00:45:44.380 Some were being mistreated.

00:45:47.620 I can't even discuss some of the mistreatment we found out about.

00:45:51.140 President Trump, again, proves why he's the greatest president in my lifetime.

00:45:54.720 Over 62,000 children rescued by President Trump.

00:45:59.620 Again, children that were ignored and weren't being looked for under President Biden.

00:46:05.900 62,000 migrant children.

00:46:07.380 This is an important point because it comes from even the concerns on the left.

00:46:13.320 Oh, won't somebody please think of the children, these poor migrant children who show up to 1.00

00:46:17.180 the border unaccompanied.

00:46:18.080 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:46:18.660 Okay, you're right.

00:46:19.380 There were a lot of those under the Biden administration.

00:46:21.200 But their answer was, that's why we have to let them into the country. 1.00

00:46:25.160 That's why we have to encourage more unaccompanied children to come into the country.

00:46:28.780 What do you think happened to those kids?

00:46:30.920 What do you think happened?

00:46:31.720 They came in and were just immediately adopted into a loving home.

00:46:36.280 And they got to sit down and have their first Thanksgiving dinner.

00:46:38.640 Wow, isn't that so nice?

00:46:39.540 And they get their own little bedroom and their own little race car bed.

00:46:42.720 And they're totally taken care of and not at all exploited.

00:46:44.840 Is that what you think happened?

00:46:45.620 What would happen if you were at a public park and you were there with your kid and you walked

00:46:53.200 away for 10 minutes?

00:46:54.320 What do you fear would happen?

00:46:57.340 You fear that someone would take your kid or victimize your kid in some way, right?

00:47:02.200 10 minutes unaccompanied at a public park in America.

00:47:05.800 What do you think happens to these kids who are hanging out with the cartels in Mexico and

00:47:10.240 then who are smuggled into the United States with no document trail?

00:47:13.380 What do you think happens to those kids?

00:47:14.480 What do you think happens to like most of those kids?

00:47:18.300 There was a study came out, this is a long time ago now, even before these really hot

00:47:21.760 migration debates, it was 2006, 2007, said that, it was from Fusion and Amnesty International

00:47:26.980 reported in the Huffington Post, 60 to 80% of girls who cross the border illegally are raped 0.82

00:47:31.760 or sexually assaulted along the way.

00:47:35.080 You think it was once?

00:47:37.280 There's a great point from the Trump administration.

00:47:39.240 Even on, even on the left's own terms, the necessary implication of unaccompanied children 0.99

00:47:47.580 at the border are that these kids are being exploited for their labor, sexually exploited.

00:47:54.420 It's a necessary implication.

00:47:56.980 And to encourage that to continue is to encourage the abuse.

00:48:00.540 Okay, one last bit.

00:48:01.760 I mentioned it at the top of the show.

00:48:02.860 This is truly horrifying.

00:48:05.480 Do you know there's a Tinder for kids?

00:48:07.600 You know Tinder, the dating app, you swipe, swipe, swipe.

00:48:10.280 There's a Tinder for kids.

00:48:12.380 It's called Wiz.

00:48:14.240 Just learned about this from the Hill.

00:48:15.600 There's a whole expose on it.

00:48:16.820 But I think my senator, Marsha Blackburn, is leading the charge on this.

00:48:22.760 Says that there is a same iconic right-swipe-left functionality.

00:48:30.480 Swipe-right-swipe-left functionality.

00:48:32.260 You know, yes, I want to talk to you.

00:48:34.020 No, I don't want to talk to you.

00:48:35.560 Same purpose as Tinder, to meet up with strangers.

00:48:38.340 Only this time, it's targeted at both teens and adults.

00:48:43.260 What is the result of this app design?

00:48:44.760 A 12-year-old girl meeting up with a supposed 14-year-old boy that Wiz connected her with.

00:48:49.040 Only to discover the boy was an adult male who sexually assaulted her.

00:48:52.780 An 8th grader being sexually abused by a 27-year-old man. 0.76

00:48:55.900 And finding out she was one of several underage girls he had groomed through Wiz.

00:49:00.080 An 11-year-old girl being sexually assaulted by a U.S. Marine she met on Wiz.

00:49:04.460 All of this in the last year alone.

00:49:06.400 I'm reading this just straight out of the Hill.

00:49:07.680 There are many more cases.

00:49:09.020 When the National Center on Sexual Exploitation shared the story,

00:49:11.240 Wiz reached out to us saying the New York Post's claims were false.

00:49:13.900 And that the 52-year-old's account was never approved.

00:49:16.920 So what did we do?

00:49:17.620 We tested the app ourselves.

00:49:18.860 And our 28-year-old adult employee was easily able to create an account as a 16-year-old girl.

00:49:24.320 So everyone's reaction to this is,

00:49:26.940 Tinder for what?

00:49:28.460 Tinder for who?

00:49:29.620 Tinder for kids?

00:49:31.660 How on earth did this app get approved?

00:49:33.840 How is this in the App Store?

00:49:34.700 Why wouldn't it be?

00:49:39.040 Why wouldn't it be?

00:49:40.140 By the dominant logic of how we treat children and sex today.

00:49:46.300 Why wouldn't it be approved?

00:49:48.500 It is taught in virtually every public school in America that a child has the right to private decisions about his or her sexuality.

00:49:58.880 We told kindergartners that they could pick their own sex and the teachers would hide it from their parents. 0.64

00:50:07.060 That they had an individual right to their own sexual identity, sexual expression, dating.

00:50:13.740 Dating?

00:50:14.280 What does it mean?

00:50:15.000 To say that a child has some right to identify as lesbian or gay is to say that a child has a right to date privately outside the guardrails and supervision of the kid's parents.

00:50:31.520 Right?

00:50:31.760 What is it to be lesbian or gay?

00:50:34.560 That very identity is oriented toward dating people. 0.88

00:50:39.180 It's oriented toward sexual relations with people.

00:50:41.680 Our whole culture has now said for years, decades really, that children have the right to private sexual behavior.

00:50:56.800 Pornography is said to be perfectly fine, in some cases healthy, in health classes in public schools.

00:51:02.100 So why can't they be on dating apps?

00:51:05.140 They're allowed to date.

00:51:07.500 They're allowed to do particularly weird sex stuff.

00:51:09.740 They're allowed to learn about sex. 0.98

00:51:11.900 They're allowed to look at pornography.

00:51:14.560 They're encouraged to do all of these things outside of parental supervision.

00:51:18.240 But they can't do it on this one particular app.

00:51:22.000 They're only allowed to date people that they meet.

00:51:26.260 Where?

00:51:27.180 In school?

00:51:28.240 At?

00:51:29.660 In what?

00:51:30.520 There are already non-profits.

00:51:31.700 There are LGBT non-profits that create chat rooms for kids to talk about their sex.

00:51:37.500 Doesn't the Trevor Project do that?

00:51:38.900 So I don't know.

00:51:39.460 I mean, look, obviously, whiz should be illegal.

00:51:42.320 And frankly, if they keep it up, they should be prosecuted.

00:51:46.240 But is Tinder for kids all that different from what the LGBT non-profits and the public schools are doing?

00:51:52.080 I don't really see it.

00:51:52.760 Okay.

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00:52:05.180 All of this is an illusion.

00:52:20.960 An echo of a voice that has died.

00:52:25.440 And soon that echo will cease.

00:52:26.940 They say that Merlin is mad.

00:52:41.000 They say he was a king in Dovid.

00:52:48.640 The son of a princess of lost Atlantis.

00:52:52.040 They say the future and the past are known to him.

00:52:57.200 That the fire and the wind tell him their secrets.

00:53:00.840 That the magic of the hillfolk and druids come forth at his easy command.

00:53:05.520 They say he slew hundreds.

00:53:10.700 Hundreds, do you hear?

00:53:12.480 That the world burned and trembled at his wrath.

00:53:18.740 The Merlin died long before you and I were born.

00:53:24.740 Merlin Emrys has returned to the land of the living.

00:53:30.380 Vortigin is gone.

00:53:32.460 Rome is gone.

00:53:33.100 The Saxon is here. 0.76

00:53:37.100 Saxon Hengist has assembled the greatest war host ever seen in the Island of the Mighty. 0.99

00:53:41.640 And before the summer is through, he means to take the throne.

00:53:46.180 And he will have it.

00:53:47.680 If we are too busy squabbling amongst ourselves to take up arms against him,

00:53:52.620 here is your hope.

00:53:54.140 A king will arise to hold all Britain in his hand.

00:53:58.000 A high king.

00:53:59.180 He will be the wonder of the world.

00:54:00.460 You.

00:54:04.460 To a future of peace.

00:54:09.000 There'll be no peace in these lands till we are all dust.

00:54:12.620 Men of the Island of the Mighty.

00:54:15.300 You stand together.

00:54:16.520 He stands as Britons.

00:54:20.520 You stand as one.

00:54:25.060 Great darkness is falling upon this land.

00:54:29.060 These brothers are our only hope to stand against it.

00:54:31.560 Not our only hope.

00:54:36.260 S.A. Merlin slew 70 men with his own hands.

00:54:40.100 And Gathay, he slew 500.

00:54:44.600 No man is capable of such a thing.

00:54:47.380 No mortal man.

00:54:48.340 No part of this

00:55:02.680 You.

The Michael Knowles Show - December 10, 2025

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