The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1875 - UPDATE： Two Mass Shootings, Brown Killer Still On The Loose

00:00:00.000 A shooting at Brown University left two people dead.

00:00:02.940 A shooting at a Sydney Hanukkah celebration left 16 people dead.

00:00:07.180 And a stabbing in Los Angeles left a major Hollywood star and his wife dead.

00:00:12.080 All horrifying, pretty grisly start to the week.

00:00:15.720 Even more disturbing, however, than the innocent people who were murdered

00:00:19.700 is the fact that our society consistently refuses

00:00:23.520 to confront the guilty people who did and do the murdering.

00:00:27.360 I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:30.000 Welcome back to the show.

00:00:49.220 Charlie Kirk's widow, Erica, sat down for an interview on CBS with Barry Weiss.

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00:02:20.080 Okay, where to start?

00:02:21.660 A lot of gruesome stuff on Monday.

00:02:23.940 Happy Monday.

00:02:24.900 Let's start with the deadliest attack in Sydney, Australia.

00:02:28.420 This was at a Hanukkah celebration in Sydney.

00:02:32.240 The gunmen, not gunmun, gunmen, targeted the Jews who were celebrating Hanukkah.

00:02:39.180 They killed 16 people, including a child.

00:02:42.360 42 people were treated at a hospital, some in critical conditions,

00:02:45.700 and more people might end up dead.

00:02:49.180 The really relevant piece of this attack,

00:02:52.680 when we're trying to come to political conclusions here,

00:02:54.980 is related to the gunmen part.

00:02:57.080 Namely, it wasn't just one person.

00:02:58.300 It was two people.

00:02:58.960 It wasn't just two random people.

00:03:00.020 It was a father and a son.

00:03:02.780 Close your eyes.

00:03:04.320 There's an attack in a Western nation on Jews.

00:03:08.180 Who did it?

00:03:09.620 Who did it?

00:03:10.380 I know you're not supposed to be prejudiced.

00:03:12.100 I know you're not supposed to ever, ever come to any prejudgments.

00:03:15.800 Who was it?

00:03:17.700 You're right.

00:03:18.740 It turns out that 100% of you, if you're being honest with yourselves, 0.98

00:03:22.500 who guessed that it was some crazy Muslims, were right. 1.00

00:03:26.360 It was. 0.99

00:03:27.020 It was two Pakistanis. 0.99

00:03:28.600 Sorry, you wouldn't just say crazy Muslims. 1.00

00:03:30.140 You would say crazy Muslim migrants. 1.00

00:03:33.160 And you would be right about that. 0.99

00:03:36.080 It was a father and a son from Pakistan.

00:03:39.680 Our strength.

00:03:41.220 Because that's what diversity is.

00:03:42.680 It's our strength.

00:03:43.440 So Australia imported some of our strength in.

00:03:46.080 They enriched their culture with Pakistani migrants. 0.61

00:03:49.120 And then the father and the son go out and shoot up a group of Jews. 0.99

00:03:54.140 Now, look, crazy people exist everywhere and in every culture. 0.96

00:03:59.280 The fact that it's a father and a son, I think, shows the qualitative difference 0.99

00:04:04.580 between Muslim terror and other kinds of terror. 0.85

00:04:07.240 We'll get to other kinds of terrorism too. 0.96

00:04:08.580 But the qualitative difference here is this sort of thing is sanctioned in Islam.

00:04:14.780 It's promoted in Islam, in a mainstream version of Islam.

00:04:19.760 Killings of innocent people, spreading the faith by the sword. 1.00

00:04:24.360 This is stuff that is distinctive to Islam that you don't find in Christianity.

00:04:28.820 Sometimes you see weird aberrations and heresies and freak spinoff cults in Christianity that do bad stuff.

00:04:35.040 But you don't see this kind of widespread mainstreaming.

00:04:37.900 You don't see father-son terror teams whose acts of terrorism are then celebrated more broadly.

00:04:44.800 That's the qualitative difference.

00:04:46.880 That's one of several, but it's a chief reason why it's probably not a wise idea for Western nations to import these people in en masse. 0.96

00:04:56.460 The prime minister of Australia has come out.

00:04:58.780 He said, look, we are going to do everything we can to stop this.

00:05:01.480 This was obviously horrific.

00:05:03.160 There might have been some advance warning.

00:05:04.820 There are reports that there was advance warning from Israeli intelligence.

00:05:07.180 There are reports that there was advance warning from actually one of the rabbis who was killed asking the prime minister to pay attention to the Muslim problem.

00:05:14.960 The PM says he is going to do everything he can to stop it.

00:05:20.100 And here's what he's going to do.

00:05:21.200 And I want to conclude finally by saying that the government is prepared to take whatever action is necessary.

00:05:31.080 Included in that is the need for tougher gun laws.

00:05:34.580 And this afternoon at four o'clock I will put on the agenda of the National Cabinet tougher gun laws, including limits on the number of guns that can be used or licensed by individuals.

00:05:56.920 A review of licenses over a period of time, people's circumstances change, people can be radicalized over a period of time.

00:06:06.660 Licenses should not be in perpetuity and checks, of course, making sure that those checks and balances are in place as well.

00:06:14.520 Yeah, that's that's it.

00:06:16.940 That's got to be it, right?

00:06:18.080 Crikey.

00:06:18.720 Yeah.

00:06:19.460 Well, you see here, I can't really do it on Australian accent.

00:06:22.520 It quickly becomes a Michael Caine accent.

00:06:24.720 But I'll bear with me anyway.

00:06:26.900 The guy comes out, he goes, crikey, that's not a knife.

00:06:29.420 This is not.

00:06:30.040 That's not.

00:06:30.400 Well, you know, Australia has 11 million gun control laws where the real we need 11 million and one.

00:06:38.680 Australia has some of the strictest gun control laws in the country.

00:06:43.060 Has some of the strictest gun, sorry, in the entire world.

00:06:46.400 And he says, yeah, we need stricter gun control laws.

00:06:50.420 Yeah, you know what we need?

00:06:51.200 We need to take away licenses from people who have already passed the gun control checks to have guns because they can be radicalized over time.

00:06:56.920 Okay, now we're getting closer.

00:06:57.940 Radicalized by what?

00:07:02.820 Radicalized by whom, pray tell, he won't say.

00:07:08.800 Two distinctive features of this attack.

00:07:13.160 The weapon used, sure.

00:07:15.880 And the kind of people who did it.

00:07:19.820 The kind of people who pretty much always do it.

00:07:22.760 Not always.

00:07:23.620 Sometimes it's radical leftists, too.

00:07:25.580 We'll get to that in a moment.

00:07:26.540 But generally, if you were saying, hey, close your eyes.

00:07:31.200 There was a terror attack in a Western nation.

00:07:33.300 Who did it?

00:07:34.080 Close your eyes.

00:07:34.800 You're right.

00:07:35.960 You're right.

00:07:37.360 Hey, there was an attack on Jews.

00:07:39.360 Not just Jews. 0.90

00:07:40.560 There was an attack on Jews.

00:07:41.500 There was an attack on a Christmas market.

00:07:43.060 There was an attack on just random Westerners walking around the street.

00:07:47.880 Who was it?

00:07:48.360 Who did it?

00:07:49.700 You're right.

00:07:50.960 You're right.

00:07:51.500 It was the guns.

00:07:53.760 You're right.

00:07:54.520 It was the guns that did it.

00:07:55.640 They jumped up and they started firing off by themselves. 1.00

00:07:58.420 What's so insidious about this is that I suspect the prime minister is not a complete idiot. 1.00

00:08:06.560 So he's a deceiver. 1.00

00:08:08.800 So he's lying. 0.91

00:08:11.000 He's just he's taking a big shovel.

00:08:13.100 He's digging a lot of sand out and he's shoving his head right in and he's burying his head in the sand.

00:08:18.760 That's what he's doing.

00:08:20.760 I'll do every now listen here.

00:08:22.640 I'll do it.

00:08:23.180 I'm just going to do Michael Caine if that's fine because I can't I can't do an Australian. 1.00

00:08:26.300 I don't know why I can't listen here.

00:08:29.620 We're going to do every single thing that's possible to do.

00:08:32.620 We're going to do everything to stop these attacks in the future.

00:08:36.240 Except for the thing that would stop them.

00:08:38.800 Except for the one thing that's totally relevant.

00:08:41.000 Other than that, we're going to do every other thing.

00:08:42.720 We're going to have buy one get one free coupons for dinner at the restaurants.

00:08:48.640 We're going to we're going to do climate change.

00:08:51.420 We're going to we're going to do it.

00:08:52.320 We're going to touch on every other political issue.

00:08:54.740 But the one and it's the one that is I think most deeply felt by the people in these countries.

00:09:00.360 Australia and Europe and the UK and America, which is the mass migration of unassimilable cultures that keep attacking us. 1.00

00:09:09.360 Father and son terror squads.

00:09:14.560 The Methodists don't do that, do they? 0.96

00:09:16.700 The Presbyterians don't tend to do that.

00:09:18.740 No, it's one group in particular that does that.

00:09:21.280 So they won't do whatever is necessary.

00:09:23.040 They'll do everything.

00:09:23.980 They'll do everything other than the one thing that is necessary to stop it.

00:09:27.140 So here's a little follow up to this.

00:09:28.660 At Amsterdam, Amsterdam Royal Concert Hall, there was a major protest, a Muslim anti-Jewish protest.

00:09:37.120 I think there was some Hanukkah stuff going on, some Jewish cantors at the Amsterdam Royal Concert Hall.

00:09:43.020 Then we turn from the Jews to the Christians. 0.98

00:09:45.040 The French have had to cancel their New Year's Eve celebration on the Champs-Élysées.

00:09:49.840 They're doing this because of who?

00:09:53.240 Because of who?

00:09:54.280 Last year, the New Year's Eve celebration in France drew a million people.

00:09:58.060 And they're still going to have fireworks.

00:09:59.700 But the authorities are urging the Frenchmen to watch the fireworks on TV.

00:10:03.300 Not go out to the Champs-Élysées.

00:10:05.000 Don't look at the Arc de Triomphe because why?

00:10:08.140 Because who's going to attack them?

00:10:10.740 Is it going to be the Unitarians? 0.99

00:10:13.700 The Amish, perhaps? 0.57

00:10:15.620 No.

00:10:16.660 It's going to be this one group that Europe and Australia, just the West broadly, has let in.

00:10:23.200 This one group that's been trying to conquer France since the year of our Lord 732.

00:10:28.200 And has been consistently desiring to overtake France.

00:10:30.920 And now they're just being invited in for some reason.

00:10:32.840 And now we can't have Christmas parades.

00:10:35.200 Now we can't have New Year's celebrations.

00:10:37.660 Now we can't go out.

00:10:38.500 Now the Jews can't have their religious services.

00:10:41.160 And more relevant probably to most of us, you know, we care about the Jews as a matter of justice and neighborliness.

00:10:47.300 But at a more personal level, now we can't have Christmas markets.

00:10:50.920 You know why? 0.99

00:10:51.540 Because the Muslims keep shooting them up. 1.00

00:10:53.240 Now we can't have New Year's celebrations. 0.99

00:10:55.040 You know why? 0.99

00:10:55.460 Because the Muslims keep shooting them up. 1.00

00:10:57.340 Because it's basically always the same people. 0.99

00:10:59.320 But you can't say that.

00:11:03.460 And as a consequence of that, we lose our freedom.

00:11:06.640 We lose our way of life.

00:11:07.580 We lose our whole countries.

00:11:09.360 Because it turns out that people are not just undifferentiated cogs in a machine.

00:11:13.300 You can't, as the liberal politicians throughout the West have said now for decades, they say, we're going to deal with the problem of declining birth rates among the native populations of our countries.

00:11:24.980 And we are going to fix the economic problem of unsustainable entitlement programs by importing other kinds of peoples with other cultures, with other religions, with other behaviors. 0.96

00:11:35.820 And then it's all going to be hunky-dory.

00:11:37.580 And it turns out none of that works.

00:11:38.860 And what actually happens is rather than saving your country, it hastens its death.

00:11:44.220 That's what happens.

00:11:45.220 I had a debate with a French politico.

00:11:48.020 I won't say who, but I was at a social event with a French politico.

00:11:52.140 And this French politico said, how come you American conservatives like countries like Hungary so much?

00:11:56.760 Why do you love Hungary?

00:11:57.840 And I said, well, because in Hungary, they've taken a stand against mass migration and against cultural transformation.

00:12:05.620 And they've stood up for what they believe in.

00:12:07.600 And as a result, I am much freer in Hungary than I am in other countries.

00:12:13.880 They said, what are you talking about?

00:12:15.280 They said, that Viktor Orban, he's authoritarian.

00:12:17.560 He's not, by the way.

00:12:18.560 They said, this Viktor Orban, he's not liberal.

00:12:20.380 That's true.

00:12:20.820 He's not liberal.

00:12:21.860 He's not liberal.

00:12:22.680 How can the Hungarians be more free?

00:12:24.660 I said, I'll tell you why.

00:12:25.260 Because if I go visit Budapest, if I go visit anywhere in Hungary, I could walk down the street in my birthday suit with three Rolexes on each arm, singing out loud at three o'clock in the morning.

00:12:38.060 Not one person would harass me.

00:12:39.700 Not one person would try to rob me.

00:12:41.420 Not one person, I might be, maybe would be arrested as I should be.

00:12:45.460 But I could be in as vulnerable and precarious a position as possible, even as a foreigner, as a tourist.

00:12:51.820 No one's going to bother me.

00:12:53.160 That's freedom.

00:12:53.840 And this French politician said, no.

00:12:57.680 No, no, no, that's not freedom.

00:12:59.460 What are you talking, that's safety, that's security, but that's totally different from freedom.

00:13:03.860 I said, is it really?

00:13:05.320 I don't think it is.

00:13:06.620 If I don't have faith in the orderliness of society, if I don't have faith that I can go out without being attacked or murdered or molested, then I can't really be free.

00:13:18.360 And I certainly won't have the political freedom necessary to carry on my centuries-long traditions.

00:13:25.400 I can't have my Christmas market.

00:13:27.240 I can't have my New Year's Eve celebrations.

00:13:29.600 I can't go to school.

00:13:31.460 I can't go to church.

00:13:32.500 I can't do any of the things that constitute the real substance of my freedom.

00:13:38.320 That would be gone.

00:13:41.460 There is a simple solution.

00:13:43.380 When the Australian politician comes in, he says, I'll do whatever is necessary.

00:13:47.140 There's one thing you could do.

00:13:49.200 Stop the mass migration, specifically of Muslims and Middle Easterners and South Asians who are unassimilable. 1.00

00:13:58.580 Some are assimilable, but many are not. 0.91

00:14:01.440 Stop the ones who are unassimilable. 0.99

00:14:03.580 Reduce the mass migration.

00:14:05.440 Cut it off.

00:14:05.920 That would solve 92% of your problems.

00:14:08.800 That's the one thing they won't do.

00:14:10.080 Okay, moving from the foreign shooting to the domestic shooting, which is, it was less deadly.

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00:15:42.220 There's a shooting at Brown University.

00:15:44.120 This was a couple days ago.

00:15:45.260 It was less deadly than this horrific Hanukkah shooting in Sydney.

00:15:51.660 But I think it's more disturbing to a lot of people.

00:15:54.520 One, because it's closer to home.

00:15:55.880 But two, because we don't know almost anything about it.

00:16:01.720 We were told first that there was a guy who had been taken into custody and some guy's face was plastered, like a white guy with blonde hair, plastered all over the news.

00:16:10.240 And then it turned out that wasn't the guy.

00:16:12.180 It was another guy by the same name.

00:16:14.000 So then they plastered some other guy's face all over the news.

00:16:16.260 And he was at least a vaguely passively looking white guy with brown hair.

00:16:19.680 They said this was the guy.

00:16:20.780 He said he was in the army and he was this and he was that.

00:16:25.080 Then it turns out that's not the guy either.

00:16:27.720 Turns out Providence Police arrested the wrong guy.

00:16:31.020 They arrested their chief suspect.

00:16:32.960 And the actual perpetrator is still at large.

00:16:34.760 Shortly, we will be releasing the person of interest who had been detained earlier today.

00:16:45.620 And the Attorney General can speak a little bit about the rationale for that.

00:16:50.460 But we want to inform the community that that individual will shortly be released from Providence Police.

00:16:58.540 Come again? What?

00:17:00.120 This shooter on campus left two students dead, nine others injured, this Ivy League university.

00:17:09.420 And what do we know?

00:17:10.160 We know the first confirmed death was this beautiful young woman, 19 years old, a sophomore.

00:17:17.800 And her name is Ella Cook.

00:17:20.060 And all we know about her is that she was the vice president of the Republican Club.

00:17:25.640 Now we're starting to have some serious ideological concerns.

00:17:34.260 We previously had concerns out of justice, out of charity, out of humanity, out of...

00:17:38.360 Now we're starting to have ideological concerns.

00:17:41.940 Brown is as left-wing as it comes.

00:17:44.680 Even by Ivy League standards, Brown is insanely left-wing.

00:17:48.560 I don't think they have grades.

00:17:49.900 I think you can pass fail your whole time at Brown.

00:17:53.540 It's super lib.

00:17:55.640 You have one of the only prominent Republicans on campus is the first confirmed death.

00:18:05.120 Was this a targeted shooting?

00:18:06.820 Some of the reporting says that it is.

00:18:08.460 But obviously the details are very, very unclear.

00:18:11.020 They don't even know who the guy is yet.

00:18:12.620 This is three months almost to the day after Charlie Kirk, the most prominent campus conservative speaker in the country, was murdered on campus by a radical leftist.

00:18:25.720 So we don't know.

00:18:26.860 I don't want to jump to conclusions here.

00:18:28.560 However, based on the evidence that we have, the only evidence that we have, if there were an ideological motive, it would be from the left.

00:18:40.420 I'm not saying there is an ideological motive.

00:18:43.760 If there were, the only thing we know for certain about this shooting is that it would have come from the left.

00:18:52.800 That would also fit a pattern.

00:18:58.520 Prominent political voice on campus attacked, killed, molested, harassed.

00:19:05.220 Who did it?

00:19:06.980 Close your eyes.

00:19:07.880 You don't know any other facts.

00:19:09.260 Who did it?

00:19:10.300 You're right.

00:19:14.880 Russell Kirk, one of the great conservative thinkers of the 20th century.

00:19:19.300 Russell Kirk defended prejudice.

00:19:21.600 And this was in the tradition of Edmund Burke, who is in many ways the founder of modern conservatism, writing during the French and American revolutions.

00:19:28.400 Irish-English parliamentarian.

00:19:30.880 And Edmund Burke defended prejudice.

00:19:33.140 Prejudice not as an irrational animus, as a way to be a bigot or something like that.

00:19:39.240 But prejudice is just the prejudgments that we all have.

00:19:42.220 You know, you got to kind of trust your gut sometimes because you don't have time to think everything out.

00:19:45.800 Your prejudice is right most of the time.

00:19:49.900 That's why we have it.

00:19:51.720 Because we're not perfectly rational creatures and we just don't have time to write essays on everything and conduct studies before we have our breakfast.

00:20:00.060 And it's just the case that everyone knows that when there's a major terror attack somewhere around the world in a Western nation, a Muslim did it. 1.00

00:20:08.760 And it's just the case that when there's an ideological attack in America, the left did it.

00:20:15.200 Pretty much all the time.

00:20:16.520 And by the way, this is backed up by social scientific data because we know after Charlie's killing, there were multiple surveys about political violence.

00:20:26.120 And the left consistently and dramatically was much more likely to justify political violence than the right.

00:20:32.840 Chris Murphy, Democrat senator from Connecticut, comes out, goes on CNN immediately without knowing anything about this case.

00:20:41.680 And apparently, without knowing anything about similar cases, comes out and says that the shooting at Brown, in which we know the first confirmed victim was the vice president of the Republican Club.

00:20:52.580 It's actually Trump's fault.

00:20:53.860 It's not shocking because over the last year, President Trump has been engaged in a dizzying campaign to increase violence in this country.

00:21:03.060 He is restoring gun rights to felons and people who have lost their ability to buy guns.

00:21:08.100 He eliminated the White House Office of Gun Violence Protection, and he has stopped funding mental health grants and community anti-gun violence grants that Republicans and Democrats supported in that 2022 bill.

00:21:23.200 So he has been engaged in a pretty deliberate campaign to try to make violence more likely in this country.

00:21:29.360 And I think you're unfortunately going to see the results of that on the streets of America.

00:21:34.300 Chris Murphy is particularly bad.

00:21:36.740 He is one of the most nauseating politicians in the country. 0.99

00:21:40.440 He's like human vomit, if I had to be really blunt about it. 1.00

00:21:43.180 He's just everything about him and his political persona is just disgusting and cynical and wrong and unseemly and unmanly. 0.99

00:21:53.320 He's this guy who, you know, he films himself doing these selfies, this tie all askew. 0.96

00:21:58.060 He says, guys, today was a really effing hard day.

00:22:00.380 You know, he's just disreputable in basically every way.

00:22:03.780 And this is a new low for him, I would say.

00:22:06.740 He comes out after this campus shooting where nothing is known other than a Republican student was murdered.

00:22:13.140 And he says, yeah, it was Trump's fault.

00:22:15.080 The political violence is Trump's fault.

00:22:17.800 President Trump, who had part of his ear blown off by a left-wing assassin,

00:22:22.180 one of whose supporters, Cory Comparateur, was killed in front of his wife and kids at a Trump rally by the left-wing assassin.

00:22:28.280 After Trump was then nearly assassinated again by another left-wing assassin, would-be assassin. 0.87

00:22:36.160 Then after Charlie Kirk is murdered by a deranged left-wing assassin who's apparently into trans, furry LGBT people. 0.98

00:22:43.080 This after deranged leftists have tried to kill other conservatives on campus, seriously injured people along the way. 0.93

00:22:48.860 This after leftists burned the country down during BLM.

00:22:52.200 This after leftists came out and said of their own volition that they are much more likely to support political violence than the right. 0.85

00:22:59.000 This disgusting person comes on TV after this shooting. 0.96

00:23:05.400 He says, yeah, it's Trump's fault. 0.99

00:23:07.680 There's no arguing with that.

00:23:09.180 How do you argue with a guy like that?

00:23:12.000 A man who is impervious to facts and who knows one thing, that he will oppose Trump and the majority of Americans who voted for him at all costs.

00:23:24.660 Blame everything on him without any evidence whatsoever.

00:23:27.280 What do you do?

00:23:28.300 When a guy's first reaction to a shooting of kids at a school is to say, well, it's Trump's fault.

00:23:35.640 In the face of all evidence to the contrary, it's Trump's fault.

00:23:40.380 What do you do with a person like that?

00:23:42.800 What do you have in common with that person?

00:23:45.740 How does the center hold?

00:23:47.220 I really don't know.

00:23:48.480 Speaking of Charlie, Erica Kirk, Charlie's widow, went on Barry Weiss's show on CBS News.

00:23:55.600 And she was asked a question that also really, a lot to get our blood up on this Monday.

00:24:01.640 Asked a question that I thought was so totally out of line, so totally missed the point.

00:24:06.100 We'll get to that momentarily.

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00:24:39.360 So Erica has to go through this ringer because Erica is not only the widow of Charlie Kirk.

00:24:45.380 And look, Charlie was a very public person who has been running for president since he was like two years old, okay?

00:24:51.060 He had a public career.

00:24:53.180 He was the most important political organizer on the right, period, full stop.

00:24:57.380 And so if you're going to marry Charlie, you're going to be in public life too.

00:25:03.160 And Erica did that, and she's done very well at that.

00:25:06.100 Then, after Charlie was killed, Erica said, okay, I guess I'm the only unifying figure to take over the mantle of TPUSA.

00:25:15.280 Okay, that requires one to go out publicly.

00:25:18.100 And then Charlie had a book coming out because Charlie was doing the job of like five men at any given time.

00:25:22.460 And so he had a book that was coming out.

00:25:23.700 Who's going to step in for the book tour?

00:25:25.080 Who's it going to be?

00:25:26.380 Who's the person closest to Charlie?

00:25:27.720 It's his wife.

00:25:28.160 So Erica is going out, doing the book tour, unbelievable strength, unbelievable to have to do this.

00:25:36.100 While you've got, you're grieving your husband, you're trying to keep it together for your young kids.

00:25:41.620 It's unbelievable, superhuman.

00:25:43.980 She goes out.

00:25:45.420 She does this interview with Barry Weiss, who is, you know, she's on the left, but she's more amenable to people on the right.

00:25:52.180 And she's taken over at CBS News.

00:25:54.120 And the question didn't come from Barry exactly.

00:25:57.960 Barry set up a question from someone in the audience that I found repellent.

00:26:03.500 Erica, as you know, the last person that Charlie ever spoke to was a Utah Valley student named Hunter Kozak.

00:26:13.680 He was asking Charlie a question that day when he was shot.

00:26:17.660 And he's here tonight, and he wants to ask you a question.

00:26:21.800 Hi there.

00:26:22.600 Erica, I want to tell you how much I appreciate your calls for peace and unity.

00:26:30.180 And I'm likewise horrified by the people in my so-called camp who were cheering about Charlie's murder.

00:26:34.460 You can feel the butt coming. 0.97

00:26:35.920 You can feel the butt. 0.98

00:26:37.180 However.

00:26:37.860 I believe that they stoke the flames of violence.

00:26:40.020 Uh-huh.

00:26:40.440 Get to it.

00:26:40.980 Get to what you're going to get to.

00:26:41.740 But even worse is when powerful, influential people on either side of the aisle stoke the flames.

00:26:46.260 When they do it, the flames can become an inferno.

00:26:49.480 And this leads me to Donald Trump, the most powerful and influential person on earth, who has more responsibility than anyone else to put the flames out.

00:26:58.280 Just last month, President Trump called on six Democratic lawmakers to be tried for sedition, which he clarified was punishable by death.

00:27:06.380 But any good faith effort to stop political violence must hold both parties to the same standard and expectation.

00:27:12.900 So in that spirit, will you condemn the violent rhetoric of Donald Trump, the most powerful and influential person on earth?

00:27:21.460 Revolting.

00:27:22.060 Everyone involved in setting up this question should be ashamed of themselves.

00:27:25.860 And this kid should be ashamed of himself.

00:27:27.500 Kid.

00:27:27.800 Whatever.

00:27:28.180 I guess he's a grown man. 1.00

00:27:29.960 Disgusting. 0.99

00:27:32.020 Hey, Erica. 0.99

00:27:33.000 Hey, Erica.

00:27:33.820 Sorry about your husband getting murdered by someone on my side.

00:27:37.140 Hey, Erica.

00:27:37.680 Sorry that one of my ideological comrades murdered your husband and left your little kids without a dad.

00:27:44.040 Sorry about that.

00:27:44.800 But will you disavow one of your husband's close friends, who one of my ideological comrades also nearly murdered over the summer?

00:27:52.940 Hey, can you disavow your husband's really good friend, one of the men he looked up to, one of the men that he ultimately, I suppose, gave his life helping to get elected?

00:28:02.660 Can you just talk about how evil he is for no reason in the face of all evidence?

00:28:07.200 Would you mind doing that?

00:28:08.720 By the way, sorry for your kids.

00:28:11.120 Shut your. 0.69

00:28:11.820 Good grief, man. 0.94

00:28:13.000 Good grief.

00:28:13.740 Takes a lot to get my blood up.

00:28:15.820 I'm real.

00:28:17.260 I'm real low drama.

00:28:18.900 You know, I keep a pretty, pretty low heart rate. 0.98

00:28:22.720 Disgusting. 0.99

00:28:23.480 That guy should be ashamed of himself. 1.00

00:28:25.860 What a revolting question from him.

00:28:29.360 The premises are all off.

00:28:31.660 No one has a greater responsibility to bring down the temperature than Donald Trump.

00:28:36.540 I'm not sure.

00:28:37.600 I think the people who have to bring down the temperature are the ones who are committing all the violence, which is the left.

00:28:41.400 And the ones who are excusing all the violence, which is the left.

00:28:44.960 And the ones who are justifying all the violence and celebrating all the violence, which is the left.

00:28:49.420 All right. 1.00

00:28:52.000 Let's try to blow Trump's head off. 1.00

00:28:54.300 But shoot. 1.00

00:28:54.980 Oh, we're going to miss. 0.99

00:28:55.800 We're just going to blow off part of his ear. 0.97

00:28:58.780 Nearly had his brains splashed on the stage in front of the entire nation.

00:29:04.520 Hey, Mr. Trump, can you please be responsible and bring down the temperature? 0.54

00:29:09.280 Hey, sorry that your head's bleeding.

00:29:10.940 Can you please bring down the temperature?

00:29:13.060 We on the left demand that you bring down the temperature.

00:29:17.080 Do you now?

00:29:18.400 Do you?

00:29:19.440 That's really interesting.

00:29:20.840 Thank you for your thoughts.

00:29:22.040 Thank you for offering your thoughts.

00:29:25.340 Revolting.

00:29:26.560 No one has a greater response.

00:29:27.620 I think the people with the responsibility to bring the temperature down are the ones who are committing and defending all the violence, which is the left.

00:29:35.140 It's exclusively the left.

00:29:36.680 How about you bring the temperature down?

00:29:40.840 And what was the point that he was trying to make that Trump said that these Democrats should be tried?

00:29:46.600 So he's using hyperbolic language.

00:29:49.200 He's saying they should be tried for treason.

00:29:51.720 That's not the same as vigilante violence.

00:29:53.800 He's saying these people should be prosecuted for committing crimes.

00:29:57.620 Even capital offenses.

00:30:01.100 That's saying we need the justice system to work.

00:30:03.920 We need the civil authority to work.

00:30:05.180 We need to operate within a normal political order.

00:30:07.440 That is actually the opposite of what the left is doing.

00:30:10.420 That's the opposite of calling for political vigilante violence, which maybe this kid just doesn't understand.

00:30:16.300 Maybe he's just not the brightest bulb in the box.

00:30:19.480 Or maybe he does understand it, and he's cynically conflating to not only different but opposite things.

00:30:25.640 In any case, to try to score some very cheap, cynical, disgusting political point and extend your 15 minutes of fame to 16 minutes by haranguing and prodding the widow of Charlie Kirk and the mother of Charlie Kirk's kids who are going to grow up without a father, revolting.

00:30:46.920 Everyone involved in that should be ashamed of themselves.

00:30:49.080 Now, speaking of how the right reacts to political violence, a good example.

00:30:54.780 Really, really sad story.

00:30:56.560 Rob Reiner.

00:30:57.480 You know Rob Reiner?

00:30:58.620 Rob Reiner, a very famous director, did a ton of movies, A Few Good Men, Spinal Tap.

00:31:04.440 He, he's probably most famous because he played Meathead in All in the Family, you know, all in the family, like Archie Bunker.

00:31:10.220 Archie Bunker, who for the younger kids in the audience, Archie Bunker was the first version of Cartman.

00:31:15.040 You know, this kind of curmudgeonly right wing, seemingly somewhat bigoted but lovable character.

00:31:21.280 Rob Reiner played the liberal son-in-law.

00:31:23.400 That's how he became really famous.

00:31:24.800 His dad was Carl Reiner, very, very famous Hollywood figure, Hollywood comedian.

00:31:28.740 Anyway, Rob and his wife, 78 and 68 years old respectively, were found dead, stabbed to death.

00:31:36.960 I guess their throats were slit in their home.

00:31:40.000 And the story gets even worse because it turns out that the guy who did it, according to People Magazine, was allegedly their own son.

00:31:48.680 Their son, who suffered from, well, suffered from and participated in and caused many of his own problems, but a lot of drug addiction, a lot of irresponsible behavior.

00:32:02.100 So, one difference here is when Charlie Kirk was murdered, much of the left, at every level, from elected office down to that girl you went to high school with, much of the left celebrated it.

00:32:15.100 Some of your co-workers celebrated it.

00:32:18.100 Many people on the left excused it.

00:32:19.980 People on TV, on MSNBC, the Democrat analysts go on.

00:32:23.220 They say, well, you know, this is what happens.

00:32:25.000 That's what happens.

00:32:25.760 Charlie spoke.

00:32:26.440 He shouldn't have spoken the way he did.

00:32:28.380 He kind of had it coming.

00:32:30.400 So, they defended it.

00:32:32.260 Not one person on the right is happy about Rob Reiner being killed.

00:32:36.720 In fact, everything that you're seeing on social media, public statements, is how sad they are.

00:32:41.140 And to Rob Reiner's credit, Rob Reiner was a huge lib, no doubt about it.

00:32:44.800 But he was very different for many people on his side of the aisle and in his party.

00:32:49.620 Because after Charlie was murdered, this is what Rob Reiner came out to say on Piers Morgan's show.

00:32:54.720 When you first heard about the murder of Charlie Kirk, what was your immediate gut reaction to it?

00:33:04.000 Well, horror.

00:33:06.760 Absolute horror.

00:33:08.500 And I unfortunately saw the video of it.

00:33:13.420 And it's beyond belief what happened to him.

00:33:19.780 And that should never happen to anybody.

00:33:22.460 I don't care what your political beliefs are.

00:33:24.740 That's not acceptable.

00:33:26.120 That's not a solution to solving problems.

00:33:31.240 And I felt like what his wife said at the service, at the memorial they had, was exactly right.

00:33:39.900 And totally, I believe, you know, I'm Jewish, but I believe in the teachings of Jesus.

00:33:45.880 And I believe in doing to others.

00:33:48.220 And I believe in forgiveness.

00:33:50.220 And what she said to me was beautiful.

00:33:54.560 Okay, so really nice statement.

00:33:59.460 You know, he was very much on the political left and Trump drove him completely crazy.

00:34:04.060 But you see this hint of normality to him.

00:34:07.120 You see this hint of, you know, kind of normal humanity.

00:34:09.500 I even love that line.

00:34:10.300 He goes, I'm Jewish, but I believe in the teachings of Jesus.

00:34:13.180 You say, like, I've heard this before.

00:34:15.900 And I say, you know, I'm agnostic or I'm not religious or I'm, you know, some other religion.

00:34:22.120 But I believe in the teachings of Jesus.

00:34:23.640 And I say, yeah, keep going.

00:34:24.980 Yeah, yeah, right.

00:34:26.320 The teachings of Jesus are very attractive.

00:34:27.660 I keep going.

00:34:28.180 That's great.

00:34:28.500 You know, you're really kind of rooting for the guy.

00:34:31.300 And you can see this humanity bubbling over.

00:34:34.860 And even more than in that video talking about Charlie, which was really refreshing as much of the left was celebrating or excusing it.

00:34:42.560 You had this video.

00:34:45.940 This video is now going around, which is Rob Reiner talking about a movie that he did with his son, his son who reportedly, allegedly murdered Rob Reiner and his wife, the boy's mother.

00:34:58.020 This movie, B and Charlie about drug addiction.

00:34:59.940 And you just see this guy's love for his son pouring out in the interview.

00:35:04.180 We didn't bond a lot as a kid.

00:35:07.940 Like, he really liked baseball.

00:35:09.740 I like basketball.

00:35:10.520 And he could watch that with my brother, baseball.

00:35:13.320 But I just, when I saw him do that, and it was something that I'm interested in, I was like, wow, like, he really knows a lot.

00:35:19.260 And, like, it made me feel closer to him and be like, yeah.

00:35:23.460 You're like, wow, my dad's Rob Reiner.

00:35:24.780 I never had thought about it.

00:35:28.080 Yeah.

00:35:28.460 It didn't cross your mind, right?

00:35:30.080 Never.

00:35:30.920 Never watched A Few Good Men.

00:35:32.320 Didn't see that one.

00:35:33.260 No.

00:35:33.960 But it's interesting that Nick would talk about it in that way because, yeah, we did share that experience.

00:35:42.300 But, you know, even though I've had a lot of experience making movies, you know, and I said this to him many, many times, that he was the heart and soul of the film.

00:35:51.720 So, when it came to making the film deeper and better, I would have to really defer to him.

00:36:01.520 I mean, even though I have had all this experience in making films, the core of this film, I really had to look to him.

00:36:08.260 I relied on him.

00:36:09.860 Oh, man.

00:36:10.700 It just breaks your heart because you see this.

00:36:14.820 If you've been a dad, if you've ever been a son, you can see this father really longing to build up his kid.

00:36:22.960 This kid who, by all accounts, was just a complete degenerate, a ne'er-do-well, who just was in rehab zillions of times, even as a teenager.

00:36:32.960 And then later on, and, you know, he's sitting there.

00:36:35.960 I've known a lot of kids of rich guys and a lot of kids of famous guys.

00:36:41.500 And, you know, sometimes they turn out all right, but sometimes they don't.

00:36:45.000 And sometimes there's all this baggage that goes with it.

00:36:47.900 And sometimes they're just bad kids, you know.

00:36:50.180 And you see this, you see Rob Reiner here, who's a great filmmaker.

00:36:53.660 And he's saying, no, but really, it was my son who was the secret to this movie.

00:36:56.980 He did a great job.

00:36:58.100 And you know he didn't.

00:37:00.020 You know it was Rob Reiner.

00:37:01.660 It was the great Rob Reiner who made the movie.

00:37:03.660 But he's just doing everything he can to give credit to his son and build his son up.

00:37:08.700 And according to reports, you know, obviously it didn't work out very well in the end.

00:37:13.620 And so, anyway, what's the political takeaway from this story?

00:37:17.900 What's the public takeaway?

00:37:19.740 What lesson can we learn about our lives and about how human beings work in the world from this personal tragedy?

00:37:27.220 This is not a tabloid show.

00:37:29.080 There are plenty of tabloid shows, podcasts, TV shows that exist just to gossip and talk about all sorts of prurient, scintillating things.

00:37:37.280 That's not what we do.

00:37:38.080 So what lesson can we take away for our lives?

00:37:41.000 A very important lesson that a lot of people don't want to believe, especially in our modern liberal culture, is that sometimes you just get a bad kid.

00:37:49.480 We don't want to believe that.

00:37:51.880 We live in the shadow of the Enlightenment, which tells us that all human beings are born as a tablo rasa.

00:37:57.100 They're blank slates.

00:37:58.820 And all that comes to us, you know, is a consequence of our individual choices and maybe some circumstances that happen to us.

00:38:08.880 We deny original sin.

00:38:10.340 And frankly, much of the modern post-Enlightenment project is just a denial of original sin.

00:38:15.880 And so everything has to be, you know, daddy's fault or mommy's fault or society's fault or the system man or whatever.

00:38:23.000 And it can never be the case that sometimes you just get a bad kid.

00:38:26.000 Rob Reiner and his wife had multiple kids.

00:38:28.900 They had three kids together.

00:38:30.900 One of them turned out really bad, according to reports.

00:38:34.080 Again, maybe the reports are totally wrong, but according to the information we have, one of them turned out really bad.

00:38:40.340 That happens.

00:38:42.620 And this actually ties in with the other stories we've been talking about.

00:38:47.180 Sometimes people are just born with a lot of problems.

00:38:53.400 And sometimes you have to protect yourself and society from those problems.

00:38:56.620 Sometimes cultures develop with lots of problems, lots of bad proclivities that are not going to just go away with the magic wand of liberalism.

00:39:06.060 They're not going to just go away with the magical tin can.

00:39:10.540 You know, you have people in Somalia, and they're basically all pirates, and they don't build anything, and the whole country is just run on fraud. 0.99

00:39:20.300 And then you put them in this magical tin can, and you fly them from Somalia to America, and then magically they become great American citizens, as American as apple pie, ready to go invent the next Model T. 0.69

00:39:31.600 That doesn't happen.

00:39:33.020 The tin can doesn't work that way.

00:39:35.220 And we have to recognize those differences.

00:39:37.680 We have to recognize that sometimes we have to protect innocent people from people who, through personal weakness or through bad decisions or through vice or through bad luck, just are a threat to them.

00:39:49.640 And we forget that as a culture.

00:39:52.260 However, it's one of the real lies of modern liberalism, which is ultimately Pelagian. 0.60

00:40:00.340 You know, it says that we're all capable of saving ourselves.

00:40:03.020 And we just, on the right, you hear this with the pull yourself up by your bootstraps kind of rhetoric.

00:40:06.820 On the left, you hear this through the self-actualization rhetoric, the idea that we can be whatever we want, even the opposite sex.

00:40:12.040 But what all of that denies is that we're born with certain things, certain problems, one big problem in particular, which is original sin.

00:40:20.120 And the denial of that has led to, I think, the corrosion of so much, our understanding of national sovereignty, our role vis-a-vis other nations, the total corruption of our justice system, the failures of our policing.

00:40:32.200 It all comes from these problems.

00:40:34.460 And you see them expressed in these hideous, horrifying personal accounts.

00:40:39.160 Okay, you thought that all of that was the most disturbing stuff you're going to hear today.

00:40:46.040 How about a member of the House of Lords in the UK advocating for pregnant women to kill themselves?

00:40:55.040 Because we're going to get to that.

00:40:56.360 Is there any, is there even like any slightly happy story today?

00:40:59.140 No, there is one.

00:40:59.800 Okay, I promise you one thing.

00:41:00.980 Once we get through the most, one of the most morally repugnant things you've ever heard in your whole life, then we will get to one happy story.

00:41:07.040 Okay, is that a good promise?

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00:43:02.960 My favorite comment yesterday is from Christopher Costello, 696, who says,

00:43:08.060 The devil's always proud of his work.

00:43:09.280 So true.

00:43:09.680 This in response to Tyler Robinson, Charlie Kirk's accused killer, who was smiling.

00:43:14.920 He was smirking in court.

00:43:16.980 Didn't seem to show any repentance on the one hand or innocence on the other.

00:43:24.060 He wasn't there saying, I'm innocent.

00:43:25.780 I'm innocent.

00:43:26.300 Please.

00:43:26.760 This is, you've got it all wrong.

00:43:27.980 He wasn't saying that because he did it.

00:43:31.560 Nor was he saying, I'm sorry.

00:43:33.280 I didn't mean, I was a moment of madness.

00:43:35.240 I'm sorry.

00:43:35.960 Please.

00:43:36.100 I throw myself in the mercy of the court.

00:43:37.440 No, he wasn't doing that either.

00:43:38.700 He was sitting there smirking.

00:43:39.900 And Jack Posobiec pointed out, you see what kind of tie Tyler Robinson was wearing?

00:43:43.920 I don't think we have a picture of it.

00:43:46.100 Baby blue and pastel pink.

00:43:49.320 It was the colors of the trans flag.

00:43:54.300 Smirking there.

00:43:55.020 Yep.

00:43:55.180 Devil is always proud of his work.

00:43:56.980 I agree.

00:43:58.300 Okay.

00:43:58.520 Lord Charlie Falconer, who is a life peer in the UK.

00:44:03.420 So he's not one of these like real aristocrats who, you know, he descends from, you know,

00:44:07.220 the ninth century or something.

00:44:08.620 Maybe post Battle of Hastings.

00:44:10.120 I don't know.

00:44:10.400 He's not one of these medieval Renaissance kind of aristocrats.

00:44:14.320 But he is a member of the House of Lords.

00:44:15.940 He was made a life peer in the House of Lords.

00:44:17.920 And here is what Charlie Falconer had to say about assisted suicide.

00:44:23.540 Not only does he argue that the United Kingdom should encourage people to kill themselves

00:44:29.920 when they're in pain, when they're suffering, when they're in despair.

00:44:33.260 But furthermore, he says, even if a woman is pregnant, there's no reason for that, you 0.98

00:44:38.660 know, minor inconvenience of a baby, an innocent little baby growing inside her. 0.70

00:44:42.660 That's no reason not to let the woman kill herself. 0.99

00:44:44.940 There is a big issue here.

00:44:49.380 Other states around the world who have had assisted dying for some time.

00:44:53.320 We have a differences of view.

00:44:55.460 In Oregon, since 1997, there is a requirement to keep the mother alive as long as possible,

00:45:02.000 particularly when there is a viable fetus.

00:45:04.160 In the Netherlands, it takes a completely different view, and that is one of fetus side, where

00:45:11.400 the fetus has to be terminated by one means or another, often by intercardial injection of

00:45:19.020 potassium chloride, before the mother can be euthanized.

00:45:22.980 Which end of the scale does the noble and learned lord prefer these things?

00:45:27.840 Because we are in a situation where the royal colleges are against this whole system, and we

00:45:34.320 will be relying on them to fill in the gaps of this legislation.

00:45:38.820 I think it is incumbent upon us to fill those gaps in for them, because they're not keen on this.

00:45:47.280 And the noble lord puts it accurately, some countries have taken one view, and other

00:45:53.460 countries have taken another.

00:45:54.680 It's clear from the choice that I am supporting, that we take the view that pregnancy should 0.93

00:46:02.380 not be a bar to it.

00:46:06.060 Pregnancy.

00:46:06.640 So, really well-asked question.

00:46:09.380 And then Lord Faulkner comes out and he says, we are taking our view that, of course, if a

00:46:16.620 pregnant woman wants to kill herself, we should give her all the encouragement in the world. 1.00

00:46:21.560 Forget about that little innocent baby growing inside her. 0.99

00:46:25.860 Forget about, no.

00:46:27.220 And, in fairness, why not?

00:46:32.440 You find it ghastly.

00:46:34.320 I find it ghastly.

00:46:35.660 Anybody with an even slightly functioning moral core would find it ghastly that the political

00:46:40.380 leadership, the supposedly elite political leadership, the House of Lords, which for quite

00:46:45.820 some time now has not really functioned as a true House of Lords because it's been democratized.

00:46:49.180 But the House of Lords would come out and endorse something like this. 0.98

00:46:54.520 Yes, of course we should encourage people to kill themselves. 0.98

00:46:57.280 If they're having a bad day, they have a case of the sniffles, or if they're just a little 1.00

00:47:00.900 too poor, we should have them kill themselves, of course, and then we don't have to worry 1.00

00:47:05.560 about them anymore. 1.00

00:47:06.720 They're creating all these problems for us. 1.00

00:47:08.920 Go, let them all die. 1.00

00:47:10.080 No, don't let them eat cake. 1.00

00:47:11.720 Let them eat poison. 0.97

00:47:12.680 And then they can drop dead, and we don't have to think about them anymore. 0.99

00:47:17.420 That alone is quite ghastly. 1.00

00:47:19.780 But then down on top of that, yes, these young, desperate, pregnant women, let them kill 1.00

00:47:24.640 themselves and the disgusting little offspring too. 1.00

00:47:27.040 Those little vermin will only create problems for us. 1.00

00:47:29.240 Let them all die. 1.00

00:47:31.160 And then we can eat cake. 1.00

00:47:32.900 We find that very, very ghastly.

00:47:34.740 If you're not a complete sociopath by nurture or nature, then you find that horrifying.

00:47:42.180 And yet, I don't know, we defend murdering babies on the basis of nothing other than

00:47:49.040 the whims and caprices of the mother.

00:47:53.080 So I don't see why the pregnancy part is a problem.

00:47:56.640 And we defend a view of human nature, which says that the most important thing is to be

00:48:01.520 fully autonomous, to be our own gods, to self-actualize.

00:48:05.740 And so if we really own ourselves, if we really are our own gods within our own spheres, then 0.90

00:48:12.260 why can't we kill ourselves? 1.00

00:48:14.700 You can already kill your kid. 1.00

00:48:16.220 You're already in control of every single thing about your life. 1.00

00:48:18.500 You're already said to own your life. 1.00

00:48:19.680 So why can't you kill yourself if you're pregnant? 1.00

00:48:23.300 This is the inner logic of liberalism. 0.99

00:48:26.640 That's the inner logic.

00:48:28.400 And now you're just seeing a working out of that inner logic.

00:48:32.000 And the fact that you find it so revolting, I think, is something you should trust.

00:48:38.680 You should, generally speaking, trust your prejudices.

00:48:42.360 You should subject your prejudices to reason now and then when you have a moment, because

00:48:46.900 sometimes our prejudices are wrong.

00:48:48.640 We have original sin after all.

00:48:50.440 This is a fallen world.

00:48:51.700 We sometimes get things wrong.

00:48:52.820 However, the wisdom of the ages tradition is pretty reliable.

00:49:00.280 And so when someone says to you, hey, what do you think?

00:49:02.720 We have this really good idea. 0.99

00:49:03.880 What if we flood your Christian country with a ton of bloodthirsty Muslims? 1.00

00:49:09.700 Do you think that's a good idea? 0.99

00:49:10.900 And you say in the back of your head, you say, well, that seems like kind of a bad idea.

00:49:15.980 But I mean, I don't know.

00:49:17.320 I don't, I mean, I don't, I haven't written a scientific paper about it, you know, and I

00:49:20.920 certainly don't want to seem like a racist or an Islamophobe.

00:49:24.060 So yeah, bring them in.

00:49:25.220 When you deny your gut instincts, when you deny the wisdom of the ages, when you deny the

00:49:30.000 wisdom of repugnance and prejudice, usually it messes you up.

00:49:34.500 Likewise, you say, hey, what do you think if we encourage poor, desperate women who are 1.00

00:49:40.240 pregnant to murder themselves and their innocent children, you know, just to commit suicide? 0.94

00:49:44.140 And we'll have the government encourage it and in some cases even pay for it. 0.79

00:49:46.680 What do you think about that?

00:49:48.080 Say, well, you know, that seems pretty bad, doesn't it?

00:49:52.080 Seems like maybe the most evil thing I've ever heard of in my whole life.

00:49:55.220 But I mean, I don't, I'm not a scientist.

00:49:58.080 I don't have a lab coat.

00:49:59.260 I'm certainly not in the House of Lords.

00:50:01.240 So I don't want to seem like I'm prejudiced or anything or bigoted or, but maybe you should.

00:50:06.580 Maybe you should because you don't have a lot of time.

00:50:10.020 We don't, we can't all attain all of the scientific training and credentials and everything.

00:50:15.740 We can't, our stocks of reason are relatively small.

00:50:17.760 So that's all.

00:50:18.760 We either have that to go on, the wisdom of the ages, just prejudice, tradition,

00:50:25.220 things that have worked in the past, or we have nothing to go on, or we, there's no,

00:50:30.400 there's no alternative, or we have nothing else to go on.

00:50:34.340 And when we go on nothing else, the very bad stuff fills the gap.

00:50:39.140 Actually, you know what fills the gap is hordes of people who want to kill us and who have

00:50:43.740 already succeeded at destroying our political traditions and our social order and suicide.

00:50:47.900 But I guess those are really ultimately the same thing.

00:50:51.140 Today's Music Monday.

00:50:51.900 The rest of the show.

00:50:52.440 Oh, hey, I said there'd be a good story.

00:50:53.960 I promised.

00:50:54.540 I don't want to be a liar.

00:50:55.780 The conservative candidate beat the communist candidate in Chile.

00:50:59.600 How's that?

00:51:00.180 It's a slight, it's a, it's not a minor one.

00:51:02.900 It's not, maybe it's not top of your list, but yes, the right-wing candidate,

00:51:07.140 Jose Antonio Cast, beat the communist candidate, Jeanette Jara, in Chile.

00:51:12.220 We'll get to more of that story tomorrow.

00:51:13.660 A little, a little bit of political hope though.

00:51:15.040 Okay.

00:51:15.320 The rest of the show continues now.

00:51:16.280 You don't want to miss it.

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00:51:34.240 All of this is an illusion, an echo of a voice that has died.

00:51:40.980 And soon that echo will cease.

00:51:46.280 They say he was a king in Dovid, the son of a princess of lost Atlantis.

00:52:06.860 They say the future and the past are known to him, that the fire and the wind tell him their secrets, that the magic of the hillfolk and druids come forth at his easy command.

00:52:21.000 They say he slew hundreds, hundreds, do you hear, that the world burned and trembled at his wrath?

00:52:30.960 The Merlin died long before you and I were born.

00:52:38.640 Merlin Emrys has returned to the land of the living.

00:52:43.800 Forth Ren.

00:52:46.040 Fortigan is gone. Rome is gone.

00:52:49.740 The Saxon is here. 0.76

00:52:52.440 Saxon Hengist has assembled the greatest war host ever seen in the Island of the Mighty. 0.99

00:52:57.040 And before the summer is through, he means to take the throne.

00:53:01.940 And he will have it.

00:53:03.440 If we are too busy squabbling amongst ourselves to take up arms against him,

00:53:08.140 here is your hope.

00:53:09.540 A king will arise to hold all Britain in his hand.

00:53:12.940 A high king. It will be the wonder of the world.

00:53:17.440 You.

00:53:19.940 To a future of peace.

00:53:24.440 There'll be no peace in these lands till we are all dust.

00:53:27.940 Men of the Island of the Mighty, you stand together.

00:53:33.440 You stand as Britons.

00:53:36.440 You stand as one.

00:53:40.440 Great darkness is falling upon this land.

00:53:43.940 These brothers are our only hope to stand against it.

00:53:48.940 Not our only hope.

00:53:50.940 They say Merthen slew 17 men with his own hands.

00:53:54.940 I could say he slew 500.

00:53:59.940 No man is capable of such a thing.

00:54:02.940 No mortal man.

00:54:03.940 And I'm sorry about that man.

00:54:04.940 And I don't know about it.

00:54:05.940 To be continued OK.

00:54:08.340 Not our only hope not to be able to stand against each other's unaw said. 0.64

00:54:09.940 To be continued to be a little power to stand against each other.

00:54:12.940 Yes, that's how I fault that he really tied against each other.

00:54:13.940 He must become a

00:54:27.620 to push on the wrist-iron interlock a poleman,

The Michael Knowles Show - December 15, 2025

Ep. 1875 - UPDATE： Two Mass Shootings, Brown Killer Still On The Loose

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