The Michael Knowles Show - December 16, 2025


Ep. 1876 - BREAKING： FBI Stops MASSIVE New Years Eve Terror Plot


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The FBI foiled yet another terror plot aimed at Los Angeles on New Year s Eve. Which group is more dangerous: leftist terrorists or Islamic ones? Today's After Show is brought to you by The Daily Wire and Sponsored by Birch Gold.

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00:00:27.400 Just days after an Islamic terror attack in Australia
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00:00:35.780 all this just three months after a leftist murdered
00:00:38.460 one of the most prominent conservatives in the country on a university campus,
00:00:42.960 the FBI has thwarted yet another terror plot aimed at Los Angeles on New Year's Eve.
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00:03:24.180 The latest terror attack.
00:03:25.500 Happily, this one was thwarted.
00:03:27.280 And we'll get to, there's some new information about the Brown shooting.
00:03:30.980 There's a lot.
00:03:31.640 There's a lot of attacks happening.
00:03:33.280 The FBI, though, has stopped this attack that was supposed to take place on New Year's Eve in LA.
00:03:37.580 The attack was carried out by a leftist group.
00:03:43.300 It was called the Order of the Black Lotus.
00:03:46.020 This is a spinoff group from the Turtle Island Liberation Front.
00:03:51.460 Here is the FBI in their own words.
00:03:53.320 I'll highlight some of the items found during those searches over the weekend.
00:03:58.060 For example, in Carroll's residence, law enforcement found multiple posters and materials associated with Turtle Island Liberation Front, including posters stating, quote, death to America, long live Turtle Island and Palestine, and, quote, death to ice, Turtle Island Liberation Front.
00:04:15.900 In Page's residence, law enforcement found a copy of the detailed bomb attack plan.
00:04:22.480 This case is another reminder about the dangers that radicalized Antifa-like groups posed to public safety and the rule of law.
00:04:31.420 So this group, this spinoff from the Turtle Island Liberation Front, included a few people who were arrested.
00:04:39.600 Tina Lay, Audrey Eileen Carroll, Zachary Aaron Page, and Dante Gaffield.
00:04:48.280 These are people who were 30, 32, 24, relatively young people.
00:04:52.800 They come from a pretty affluent area near Los Angeles.
00:04:56.200 I think the median home price in some of these areas is anywhere from $900,000 to $2 million a home is a nice area.
00:05:03.080 This is a bunch of rich kids who grew up, who never did anything other than cause trouble, a story oldest time, and they're chanting, death to ice, death to America, long live Turtle Island, whatever that is, and Palestine forever.
00:05:22.760 Something, Palestine, what was the line?
00:05:25.260 It's cut off there on the free Palestine, long live Palestine. 1.00
00:05:29.120 Okay, they write, when we say death to America and call for an end to colonization, it doesn't mean the displacement or harm of non-indigenous citizens.
00:05:40.300 It means death to America.
00:05:41.680 So you're looking at all this stuff and you're saying, all right, this is a left-wing group.
00:05:44.700 The names here, right, Tina Lay, Eileen Carroll, Zach Page.
00:05:48.880 This isn't exactly Mohammed, Mohammed Jihad. 0.83
00:05:51.160 These are totally normal American names.
00:05:53.640 And it's a leftist group, one of these liberation fronts, the kind of groups that have shot up the Capitol, blown up federal buildings, killed civilians in advance of left-wing terror.
00:06:05.320 And yet, you look at the slogans and they say, death to America.
00:06:08.200 That's the same thing that the mullahs in Iran chant. 0.81
00:06:10.640 That's the same thing that the Islamists all throughout the Levant chant. 0.93
00:06:14.620 They say, long live Palestine.
00:06:16.880 Obviously, this is the kind of stuff that Islamists chant throughout the Middle East, really throughout the world, as they globalize the Intifada. 0.98
00:06:24.040 The Islamists wear keffias as part of their protest, but then so do the leftists in America. 0.53
00:06:30.160 So does Greta Thunberg.
00:06:31.220 And it causes you to wonder, well, hold on, what is the difference between some rich white kid in Los Angeles and some crazy Wahhabi in the Middle East? 0.96
00:06:40.940 What is the, if practically speaking, they're chanting the same slogans, in some cases in advance of the same causes, what's the difference between the two?
00:06:52.340 I know there are these nice, well-meaning liberals who say, this is just so crazy.
00:06:56.360 How on earth could an American liberal or a British liberal or a European liberal have sympathy with these radical Islamists?
00:07:04.840 By golly, the Islamists don't like homosexuals.
00:07:07.360 The Islamists oppress women. 0.98
00:07:10.600 By golly, don't these liberals understand that these Islamists oppose what they believe in? 0.85
00:07:15.180 Not really.
00:07:16.200 As I tell you, I tell you what unites them.
00:07:19.280 They have a common enemy.
00:07:21.540 They have a number of common enemies on different levels.
00:07:25.480 One would be America. 0.94
00:07:26.960 They all hate America.
00:07:29.120 At a greater level of abstraction, they all hate Western civilization.
00:07:33.320 At an even greater level of abstraction, they all hate Christianity.
00:07:37.360 So they have these common enemies.
00:07:39.520 And a common enemy can unite a coalition.
00:07:43.080 In fact, a common enemy always does unite a coalition.
00:07:46.360 That's not unique to the left or to Islam.
00:07:48.960 That's just a fact about politics.
00:07:52.300 We've talked incessantly.
00:07:53.980 I've tried not to talk about it too much because I think it's counterproductive.
00:07:56.420 But everyone else on the right, everyone else with a microphone seems to want to talk endlessly about the right-wing civil war and all the little gossipy stuff and all the kooky conspiracy theories and all of the detraction and all of the calumny and all of the scintillating tabloid trash.
00:08:11.980 That's all anybody wants to talk about.
00:08:13.640 And at a more respectable level, I suppose, they want to talk about the fissures on the right, the right-wing civil war.
00:08:22.320 And there's always a right-wing civil war.
00:08:23.920 There was a right-wing civil war back in the days of William F. Buckley Jr.
00:08:28.060 There was a right-wing civil war when it was George Bush versus Pat Buchanan.
00:08:32.320 There's a right-wing civil war between the Neos and the Paleos 20 years ago.
00:08:36.280 There's a right-wing civil war between the movement conservatives and the Rockefeller Republicans.
00:08:40.540 There's, I don't know, there was a right-wing civil war between Teddy Roosevelt and Taft.
00:08:45.220 Okay, there are always fissures on the right.
00:08:46.940 The right is distinct.
00:08:48.360 There are lots of different groups that make up the right.
00:08:50.900 That's not really true on the left.
00:08:52.420 The left is just different shades of progressive.
00:08:55.760 On the right, though, you've got people who, in some ways, fundamentally disagree.
00:08:58.540 The traditionalists and the libertarians and the Paleos and the Neos and the religious right and populists and on and on.
00:09:05.020 So some people have asked, well, what on earth could unite the right?
00:09:10.200 What on earth could unite this right-wing coalition?
00:09:12.600 Even people within the right will say that.
00:09:13.880 I don't want to join forces with so-and-so. 0.89
00:09:16.620 I don't like that podcaster.
00:09:18.560 Maybe I don't like that politician.
00:09:20.140 What on earth do we have in common?
00:09:22.820 I'll tell you what you have in common.
00:09:24.660 The left would slit your throat and celebrate your death if given the chance.
00:09:29.000 You and the other podcaster and the other politician and the other activist, they view all of you as the same.
00:09:37.280 That's what unites.
00:09:38.020 I recognize that there are deep ideological divisions, cultural divisions among different facets of the right.
00:09:46.840 What unites you is the same thing that unites the rich kid white leftist in SoCal and the Wahhabi in the Middle East. 0.96
00:09:56.020 Namely, you have a common enemy.
00:09:57.620 That's what unites, at a very basic political level, at an almost premoral political level, just talking about what distinguishes groups from other groups.
00:10:08.720 One thing that contributes to that, one thing that contributes to that in a large measure is having a common enemy.
00:10:18.100 That's why.
00:10:19.200 And so, I know people are going to pretend to be surprised, or maybe they're naively, innocently surprised, that the radical left could sound exactly like the Islamists in the Middle East, even though they differ in their opinions of women and homosexuals and other things.
00:10:33.620 And maybe they differ in their opinion of the existence of God, even.
00:10:36.440 But what unites them is they have a common enemy.
00:10:39.540 And so, practically speaking, for all intents and purposes, they're the same.
00:10:44.980 When you hear that a terror attack has been foiled, when you hear that a terror attack has been carried out, there is a reason that the first question that comes to the minds of reasonable people is, gosh, was this one the radical left, or was this one the Muslims?
00:10:58.560 And practically speaking, it's kind of hard to tell the difference.
00:11:00.940 Okay, speaking of major attacks, there was the attack carried out by Muslims in Australia a few days ago, targeted a Hanukkah celebration, targeted Jews, killed I think 16 people, dozens and dozens of people were injured, some of them critically.
00:11:17.680 Around the same time, there was a smaller scale attack, but an attack that was closer to home, that was at Brown University.
00:11:24.000 And while the attack in Australia was totally clear, the attack at Brown is quite unclear.
00:11:28.660 We don't know very much about it.
00:11:29.980 We know that one of the victims was this beautiful young girl, 19-year-old girl, who was the vice president of the Republican Club on campus.
00:11:39.920 Then there was this open question, was she targeted, was she not targeted?
00:11:43.820 We now have a second victim identified.
00:11:46.300 But just to focus on the first victim for a second, there's reporting from Mark Halperin, who's a very good reporter, very good journalist, who is saying that what he is hearing, albeit unconfirmed,
00:11:56.720 is that that victim, the vice president of the Republican Club, was the target of the attack.
00:12:05.060 People are telling me that the family of, I just need to look up her name, I apologize.
00:12:11.760 Ella Cook, I think, Mark.
00:12:13.300 Thank you.
00:12:13.740 Thank you.
00:12:14.240 That the family of Ella Cook, the Alabama young woman who was a sophomore, has been told that she was the target of what happened at Brown.
00:12:22.280 I have no idea whether that's true.
00:12:24.060 There's other theories about why the person did what they did, but now that we don't know who the assailant is, it's going to be harder to say.
00:12:32.220 But if it's true that she was targeted, that's a big story because she was one of the most visible conservatives on that campus. 0.94
00:12:38.440 Don't know that it's true, but probably most of you don't even know that that's being alleged because you'd have to follow certain accounts on X or have sources, as I do, who are telling me that.
00:12:49.460 But so caveats abound, Mark Alperin saying, look, we don't know, this is unconfirmed, but we don't really know much of anything about this attack yet, do we?
00:12:55.840 And so for a lot of people, they don't even know that it is a possibility that one of the few, this is Brown University, this is one of the most liberal colleges in the entire country.
00:13:05.380 They don't even know that it's a possibility that this was a targeted ideological attack because they don't know that the girl was the vice president of the Republican Club.
00:13:13.860 There are probably 10 Republicans on that entire campus.
00:13:16.660 Now, the second victim was identified.
00:13:18.260 The victim is Mohamed Aziz Umurzokov.
00:13:23.740 He graduated in May.
00:13:25.020 So I guess he was a freshman.
00:13:25.940 He graduated in May from Midlothian High School.
00:13:28.760 A kid wanted to become a neurosurgeon, was a top-performing kid, by all accounts, really, really nice kid.
00:13:35.680 That complicates it because his name is not John Smith.
00:13:39.280 You know, his name, Mohamed Aziz Umurzokov.
00:13:42.400 It's unclear if Ella was targeted and then this young man was just collateral damage.
00:13:50.220 It's unclear if he was targeted.
00:13:51.660 It's unclear.
00:13:53.480 And on top of that, there is one media outlet called Center Square reporting that the shooter yelled, Allahu Akbar, before the shooting, which is a pattern that we've come to expect.
00:14:05.600 But really complicates it then.
00:14:08.300 Was this a politically, ideologically motivated attack?
00:14:11.080 We've seen that on campuses.
00:14:12.440 For goodness sakes, we're only three months out from the assassination of Charlie Kirk by a radical leftist.
00:14:16.500 We've seen plenty of Muslim attacks, though one of the victims here is named Mohamed.
00:14:24.140 Then we know that the Providence police arrested someone.
00:14:29.460 It was then misreported who that person was.
00:14:32.140 They then reported the right guy who was arrested, but then the guy who was arrested was released because they arrested the wrong guy.
00:14:37.680 And now we don't know.
00:14:40.040 Now the police come out.
00:14:41.380 They say, yeah, we don't know.
00:14:42.200 We're all really tired.
00:14:43.020 We've been working on this for 49 hours straight.
00:14:44.560 We're really tired.
00:14:45.200 It's pathetic.
00:14:47.040 They don't even know who did it.
00:14:50.120 The one thing you're not allowed to do, though, is to speculate.
00:14:53.520 The one thing you're not allowed to do is to say, well, you know, like basically all of these attacks are carried out by two groups of people.
00:15:00.500 Could have been a crazy kid.
00:15:01.740 Could have been a kid who was a psycho, like a psychotic, not a psychopath, but a psychotic who just there was no ideological motivation.
00:15:09.660 Could have been a crime of passion.
00:15:11.520 We don't know.
00:15:12.920 However, the thing that we do know is you're not allowed to speculate as to whether or not that the shooting follows longstanding trends.
00:15:24.520 To Mark Halpern's point, I think is totally apt here.
00:15:26.460 He goes, look, I don't know if this was ideologically targeted.
00:15:29.460 What I do know is that most people don't even realize that's a possibility.
00:15:32.280 And just to raise the point again, the Providence police seem to have bungled this whole case.
00:15:39.740 Brown seems to have bungled this whole case.
00:15:41.440 But the odds that the vice president of the Republican club at Brown, Brown, which makes Harvard and Yale look like Hillsdale, Brown, was the victim here?
00:15:56.740 And by all accounts, a targeted victim, the odds of that are so low.
00:16:02.960 The odds of that being a mere coincidence, you have to wonder, gosh, was this part of this trend of violence against conservatives throughout the country?
00:16:12.300 Even the Atlantic magazine admitting that terrorism is now a left-wing problem, chiefly a left-wing problem.
00:16:17.600 Was this part of it?
00:16:19.080 We don't know.
00:16:19.940 Are we, can we even talk about it?
00:16:21.400 Are you even hearing about this in the establishment media?
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00:18:03.120 Really important essay.
00:18:04.100 This is by Jacob Savage called The Lost Generation.
00:18:07.660 Very, very lengthy.
00:18:08.680 Obviously, I'm not going to read it all, but you should check it out in Compact Magazine.
00:18:12.060 Compact Magazine, which is this interesting magazine.
00:18:15.820 It's established by people who are kind of on the right, but also there are some communists
00:18:21.260 involved in it.
00:18:22.460 And it's not 1980s Republican orthodoxy economics.
00:18:27.100 It tends a little bit more toward left-wing economics, but is much more favorable toward
00:18:32.080 right-wing social policy.
00:18:33.680 There's this joke in, I don't know if you remember this, in, I think it was Parks and Recreation.
00:18:38.720 One of the puns, or maybe it was 30 Rock.
00:18:40.760 One of the jokes, though, was, it said, oh, hi.
00:18:44.680 It was 30 Rock.
00:18:45.540 It said, I'm a fiscal liberal, but a social conservative.
00:18:49.720 And this was the kind of loser character, the character that everyone was supposed to
00:18:53.560 hate.
00:18:54.300 I'm a fiscal liberal, but a social conservative.
00:18:56.420 And that was a joke because at the time, 15 years ago now, the really fashionable political
00:19:03.060 identity to hold was to be a fiscal conservative, but a social liberal.
00:19:05.800 I'm a fiscal conservative, but I'm a social liberal.
00:19:09.200 And this actually represented a vanishingly small number of real voters, but people who
00:19:14.540 were in elite positions, especially in the cities, they identified that way.
00:19:17.760 So it was overpronounced in the popular culture.
00:19:19.600 Very few people identify with that.
00:19:21.080 Well, I guess Compact Magazine's position is that view.
00:19:25.300 It's the fiscal liberal social conservative.
00:19:29.140 And they write really interesting stuff.
00:19:30.600 So anyway, what's the takeaway?
00:19:31.640 The takeaway is the DEI destroyed millennial men.
00:19:36.240 DEI policies destroyed millennial men.
00:19:40.120 It opens up with this talk about Hollywood and how if you were a white man in Hollywood,
00:19:46.760 especially a young white man, millennial white man trying to get a job in Hollywood 10, 15
00:19:50.440 years ago, it was basically impossible.
00:19:52.700 And I can kind of attest to this because I was there at the time.
00:19:55.600 I was doing other stuff too, and Daily Wire was just starting at the time.
00:19:57.760 But I remember it, and I had a lot of friends who were trying to do it.
00:19:59.600 So actors, writers, directors, people who were trying to break in specifically to that
00:20:04.940 industry, if you were a white guy, it was told to you openly, yeah, it's not going to
00:20:09.860 happen because they have to diversify.
00:20:12.320 There are these DEI requirements, and isn't that wonderful?
00:20:17.640 White guys still occupied a ton of major positions in Hollywood, but it was the older white guys, 0.95
00:20:22.740 the guys who had already established their careers before.
00:20:24.680 For the younger white guys, it wasn't happening.
00:20:26.780 So that's how the article opens, but it doesn't just focus on Hollywood.
00:20:30.360 Talks about journalism, academia, medicine, tech, all of these industries where, starting
00:20:35.820 about 15 years ago, if you were a white guy trying to break in, you were going to have
00:20:39.240 a lot of trouble.
00:20:41.740 Just a few words from the article.
00:20:44.760 As the Trump administration takes a chainsaw to diversity, equity, and inclusion, there's
00:20:48.480 a tendency to portray DEI as a series of well-meaning but ineffectual HR modules.
00:20:52.380 Quote, undoubtedly, there has been a ham-fisted DEI programming that is intrusive or even
00:20:57.300 alienating, explained Kiyanga Yamada-Taylor in The New Yorker.
00:21:01.720 But for the most part, it is a relatively benign practice meant to increase diversity while
00:21:06.540 also sending a message that workplaces should be fair and open to everyone.
00:21:10.320 Jacob Savage in Compact goes on, this may be how Boomer and Gen X white men experienced
00:21:14.960 DEI, but for white male millennials, DEI wasn't a gentle rebalancing.
00:21:18.760 It was a profound shift in how power and prestige were distributed, yet practically none of the
00:21:24.220 thousands of articles and think pieces about diversity have considered the issue by cohort.
00:21:29.720 They think about it by men, white men, brown men, yellow men, whatever, but they don't look 0.62
00:21:35.660 at it by age cohort.
00:21:37.340 And the Boomers and the Gen X, they basically skated by with DEI. 0.89
00:21:41.000 It was the millennials and to some degree the older Zoomers who got pounded. 1.00
00:21:45.740 This is not a story about all white men.
00:21:48.480 It's a story about white male millennials in professional America, about those who stayed
00:21:51.660 and who mostly stayed quiet.
00:21:53.420 The same identity, a decade apart, meant entirely different professional faiths.
00:21:57.000 If you were 40 in 2014, born in 1974, beginning your career in the late 90s, you were already
00:22:02.860 established.
00:22:03.560 If you were 30 in 2014, you hit the wall because the mandates to diversify didn't fall on older
00:22:09.060 white men who in many cases still wield norms power.
00:22:11.120 They landed on us.
00:22:13.920 So it opens up with this anecdote about Hollywood, which I saw.
00:22:18.080 I saw it among my friends.
00:22:19.200 I saw it among colleagues.
00:22:20.300 So that was real.
00:22:21.940 But it goes on.
00:22:23.400 It says in journalism, eventually white men stopped even trying to enter into journalism
00:22:28.440 because they were shut out of the jobs.
00:22:30.460 And then journalism became even more effeminate.
00:22:33.560 Journalism became even a lot more liberal.
00:22:37.140 Journalism changed.
00:22:38.540 The not hiring these people, discriminating against this specific group, this sex group,
00:22:44.320 racial group, and age group.
00:22:46.740 Not only did it push them out of their careers, it changed the industry.
00:22:51.800 It had this twofold effect.
00:22:53.000 But then they go on.
00:22:53.620 They say the shift in medicine has been even more dramatic.
00:22:55.860 In 2014, white men were 31% of American medical students.
00:22:58.580 By 2025, they were just 20.5%.
00:23:00.680 A 10 percentage point drop in barely over a decade.
00:23:04.420 That's a third of the people.
00:23:05.680 So it's really a 33% drop, 10 percentage point drop in barely over a decade.
00:23:12.280 And this is the clearest example we have of the celebration parallax.
00:23:15.880 Mike Anton's point that you can observe the same phenomenon.
00:23:20.680 But if you observe the phenomenon and say it's a good thing, then you're fetid and you're applauded
00:23:26.140 and you're patted on the back.
00:23:26.960 If you observe that very same phenomenon and say it's a bad thing, you're called a dangerous conspiracy theorist spreading misinformation.
00:23:34.480 This is the clearest example of it.
00:23:36.140 Because we were told, my group, I know I'm a little dusky because I'm part Sicilian.
00:23:41.760 But I think, broadly speaking, I'm a white man.
00:23:44.980 My group of people was told, hey, we're going to diversify.
00:23:50.940 And this is really, really good.
00:23:52.060 And most of the white men, across party lines, across geographic lines, most of the white men said, oh, okay.
00:23:59.640 They said, that's great, you know, wonderful, how great.
00:24:02.240 Or if they said, well, we're being discriminated against, that's, they mostly kept quiet at least.
00:24:06.400 And the consequence of that was, you had at least a decade of active, explicit, overt, legally protected, culturally celebrated discrimination against a very particular group of people.
00:24:23.020 Not even just white men, millennial white men and older Zoomer white men. 0.97
00:24:27.060 And now all the think pieces decry the rise of identity politics on the right and among white people.
00:24:36.300 What did you think was going to happen?
00:24:38.180 What did you think was going to happen?
00:24:39.620 There's a Pew report that came out some years ago that showed that white people are the only group that doesn't have a racial identity.
00:24:46.700 Showed greater than 50% racial identity.
00:24:49.480 People who said that race was important or very important to their sense of identity.
00:24:53.500 Greater than 50% among Asians, Hispanics, and black people.
00:24:56.160 Among black people, it's over 70%.
00:24:57.760 Do you know what it was for white people?
00:24:59.460 15.
00:25:00.560 White people have no sense of racial identity. 0.99
00:25:04.960 And generally, white people say, isn't that a good thing?
00:25:07.400 We shouldn't have too much of a sense of racial identity.
00:25:09.280 We should.
00:25:09.600 However, when your country experiences the largest demographic change ever of any place in the history of the world,
00:25:17.300 over the course of 60 years since the Hart-Celler Act,
00:25:20.060 and when that change is intentional,
00:25:23.900 when that change is being targeted at you explicitly,
00:25:27.860 saying we want fewer white people and we don't want you to have jobs 1.00
00:25:31.080 and we don't want you to have a career
00:25:32.660 and you're going to be ostracized from society,
00:25:37.820 don't be surprised when you get a little alienation.
00:25:40.600 Don't be surprised when people feel a little isolated from their culture,
00:25:44.460 deracinated, feel as if they don't really have a stake in the society.
00:25:51.900 It comes from somewhere.
00:25:53.000 And there's this response from the left which says,
00:25:57.600 yeah, take that, white man.
00:25:59.060 You're the devil.
00:25:59.860 We hate you.
00:26:00.440 You're terrible.
00:26:01.080 You should feel terrible about yourself on the basis of your sex and your race and your age, I guess. 0.99
00:26:04.400 But then the response on the right is,
00:26:07.440 oh, you know, quit your bellyaching.
00:26:09.180 Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
00:26:10.640 We're all individuals, aren't we?
00:26:11.960 And this group of people is saying,
00:26:14.660 well, hold it.
00:26:15.000 We're not being treated as individuals.
00:26:17.040 We're not.
00:26:17.720 So that just isn't true.
00:26:19.020 And we can't exactly pull ourselves up by our bootstraps.
00:26:22.700 We can learn how to suffer in a way that is sanctifying, that is good.
00:26:26.420 We can learn how to make the best of a bad situation.
00:26:28.400 We can learn how to play the hand we're dealt.
00:26:29.520 We absolutely have to do that.
00:26:30.720 But this requires a political solution.
00:26:33.240 You got to stop actively discriminating against this one particular group of people,
00:26:38.940 young white guys, on every level in your immigration policies,
00:26:43.580 in your hiring policies, in your university admission policies.
00:26:46.280 And we're beginning to see that.
00:26:48.200 This is one of the achievements of the Trump administration that has gone largely under the
00:26:50.960 radar is the Supreme Court ended affirmative action in college admissions.
00:26:54.660 Now the schools are going to try to get around that anyway.
00:26:56.580 But that was a big shift.
00:26:58.080 The Trump administration has deported a ton of people, over 2 million people.
00:27:01.600 They're not getting any credit for that.
00:27:03.120 And they're being lied about, actually, by some of their critics on the left and the right.
00:27:06.860 So there are, but this requires political solutions, okay?
00:27:10.000 I think the age of squishy, individualist, liberal slogans is over because it has failed.
00:27:17.480 And it's led to deeply unjust discrimination.
00:27:20.420 And when people recognize that, we shouldn't tell them they're not seeing what their eyes are seeing
00:27:25.440 and not to believe their lying eyes.
00:27:27.440 The same thing goes for Zoomers, by the way. 0.51
00:27:28.900 We'll get to Zoomers in a second. 0.96
00:27:30.580 We'll get to Zoomer aggrievement just momentarily.
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00:29:27.560 Wall Street Journal has a really important report out this holiday season.
00:29:32.300 People are buying their gifts.
00:29:33.120 I haven't bought any gifts for Christmas.
00:29:35.480 This is so bad.
00:29:36.140 If you have ideas on what I should get, sweet little Elisa, please tweet them at me.
00:29:39.520 Please send them into the mailbag.
00:29:40.720 I don't know what to get.
00:29:42.360 What do you get the woman who has everything? 1.00
00:29:44.240 What do you get the woman who doesn't need anything in this world? 1.00
00:29:47.280 But anyway, sorry, that's a sidebar.
00:29:50.140 Most people have bought their Christmas gifts already, with one exception.
00:29:53.940 Two exceptions, I guess.
00:29:55.060 Me, I haven't bought my Christmas gifts.
00:29:56.740 And Zoomers. 1.00
00:29:57.720 Zoomers are not spending money on Christmas gifts because of economic pressures, according 1.00
00:30:02.360 to the Wall Street Journal.
00:30:03.200 Unusual Wales posts a chart from the Bureau of Labor Statistics says Gen Z is spending more
00:30:09.000 on essentials than previous generations.
00:30:12.240 Their wages are not keeping up.
00:30:14.600 And that is one reason why they're not spending as much this advent.
00:30:18.700 So you look at this chart, really interesting chart.
00:30:22.920 Inflation-adjusted spending for 16 to 24-year-olds.
00:30:29.620 And you see real wages from 1985 to 2020.
00:30:32.700 Real wages have ticked up a little bit.
00:30:35.300 You notice, though, they really only tick up during the Trump era.
00:30:40.320 So they tick up a little bit at the end of the 90s.
00:30:43.640 Dot-com boom. 1.00
00:30:44.380 I mean, now everyone is getting rich at the end of the 90s.
00:30:46.540 They flatline until the election of Obama.
00:30:50.220 They decline.
00:30:52.000 And this was also the global financial crisis.
00:30:53.960 They decline.
00:30:55.920 Start to tick up a little bit again, but not that much.
00:30:59.500 Election of Trump, real wages grow.
00:31:02.260 Biden gets elected.
00:31:03.680 Real wages flatline actually decline a little bit.
00:31:06.740 Trump gets elected again.
00:31:07.580 Real wages are going up.
00:31:08.460 Okay.
00:31:10.400 But cost of food is growing.
00:31:13.240 Cost of housing explodes.
00:31:16.900 Cost of vehicle insurance explodes.
00:31:20.880 So basic stuff.
00:31:22.120 What do you need to exist in the modern American economy?
00:31:25.880 What are the real basics that people, well, you need food, first of all.
00:31:29.320 But you need a car and you need a place to live.
00:31:31.940 And all of that has exploded.
00:31:34.940 And one of the big drivers of the cost of housing has been the migrants. 1.00
00:31:40.280 Because migrants are occupying huge amounts of rent, especially the rises in rent are something 1.00
00:31:47.360 like 40% attributable to mass migration.
00:31:50.200 So the Zoomers are getting hammered on this. 0.84
00:31:53.480 And this is another place where, is this my criticize the right day?
00:31:56.660 This is my criticize my friends on the right day.
00:31:59.120 This is a real place where people on the right are just completely dropping the ball.
00:32:02.700 Some people get it.
00:32:03.560 But the younger politicians on the right get it.
00:32:07.080 Vice president would be a good example.
00:32:08.680 He's been speaking about this for a long time.
00:32:11.500 But Trump has spoken about this for a long time.
00:32:14.560 But a lot of people on the establishment rights just still don't get it.
00:32:17.940 They say, oh, these kids need to quit their bellyache and they need to pull themselves up
00:32:20.340 with their bootstraps.
00:32:21.160 They have it way better than their grandparents did.
00:32:23.200 Yes and no.
00:32:24.060 Yeah, it's true.
00:32:24.920 Houses are nicer today.
00:32:26.080 The food is, in some ways, more luxurious today.
00:32:30.420 People live more opulent lives today.
00:32:32.500 That's true.
00:32:34.040 But we live in society and you do kind of have to keep up with the Joneses.
00:32:37.780 And real wages have not risen.
00:32:39.920 And you can't support a family on one income in a lot of places.
00:32:44.040 It can be done.
00:32:44.900 I want to give people encouragement.
00:32:46.380 It can be done.
00:32:47.000 But you have to be very, very intentional about it.
00:32:48.780 And the whole culture tells you not to do that.
00:32:50.560 But this, on top of white male millennials and older Zoomers being actively discriminated
00:32:59.160 against in the college admissions process and in the job market, the Zoomers do have 1.00
00:33:06.740 it tough.
00:33:08.180 Okay?
00:33:08.420 And this is not a cause for the Zoomers to say, you know, oh, I'm going to go sit down 0.97
00:33:12.800 and feel so sorry for myself.
00:33:14.680 It's like Johnny Fontaine in The Godfather.
00:33:16.900 I don't know what to do.
00:33:18.020 And The Godfather does just smack him and says, you're going to act like a man.
00:33:22.220 What's the matter with you?
00:33:23.080 You got to, look, you got to act like a man.
00:33:24.520 You got to learn how to suffer.
00:33:25.360 You got to learn how to adapt and play the hands you're dealt, as I just said.
00:33:29.520 But we need a political solution to this, folks.
00:33:31.640 This is where the establishment, the squishy Republicans just don't get it.
00:33:34.820 Pull yourself up by your bootstraps kind of people just don't get it.
00:33:38.480 Politics is done politically.
00:33:41.080 Politics is an effort of the community.
00:33:44.680 Politics involves setting norms and standards and incentives and disincentives for everybody.
00:33:49.560 It's not an individualist endeavor.
00:33:53.000 It's not, we don't just say, oh, just sort out the culture and forget about the politics.
00:33:56.320 No, no, no.
00:33:56.720 First of all, you can't really separate the two because politics is downstream of culture,
00:34:00.640 but also the law is a tutor.
00:34:01.440 And so you got, you need a political answer to this.
00:34:04.840 And furthermore, even if you are the most laissez-faire, don't want the government to do anything
00:34:10.300 kind of right-winger that there is, let us remember that the palace is never safe when
00:34:15.100 the cottage is unhappy.
00:34:17.100 And you have a generation of people who are having economic difficulty keeping up because
00:34:22.720 of economic challenges that their parents and grandparents didn't face.
00:34:25.620 You have that same generation of people, especially the white guys in that generation, who are being
00:34:29.580 actively discriminated against on top of the economic pressures.
00:34:33.940 You have that generation being raised with the insane cultural confusion of the sexual 0.70
00:34:40.300 revolution, being encouraged to chop their genitals off. 0.99
00:34:43.420 You know, when your parents went through a weird rebellious phase when they were kids, they
00:34:48.380 got a tattoo.
00:34:50.540 When the Zoomers and the young millennials go through a weird rebellious phase as a kid, everyone 1.00
00:34:55.340 around them gets them to chop their genitals off. 1.00
00:34:59.580 When your grandparents went through a weird rebellious phase, they probably drank a little
00:35:04.020 too much or maybe took up smoking.
00:35:06.720 You castrated yourself.
00:35:09.480 These are major, major, all of your parents were divorced.
00:35:12.880 Your society was fraying in social solidarity, driven in no small part by the mass migration
00:35:17.320 that was foisted upon you that led to the compounding of all of these problems.
00:35:21.540 You need a political solution to these things.
00:35:24.580 And there are plenty of political solutions.
00:35:26.460 I mean, again, I keep focusing on the migration because if you just took care of the mass migration
00:35:31.060 alone, that would fix the housing problem.
00:35:33.020 That would fix a lot of the problems with the cost of food.
00:35:35.800 It would fix a lot of the problems with the stresses on the welfare system.
00:35:39.360 It would fix a lot of the problems of lack of assimilation and diversity.
00:35:45.000 Just that alone.
00:35:46.000 But that's a political solution.
00:35:47.140 That's not pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
00:35:48.660 It's never good to whine.
00:35:51.420 It's never good to complain.
00:35:52.780 It's never good to feel sorry for yourself.
00:35:54.840 Okay, I agree with the establishment right when it comes to that.
00:35:58.880 Don't be a little whiny wimp ever.
00:36:00.940 Don't do that.
00:36:01.540 That's very off-putting.
00:36:04.120 However, these are real problems, folks.
00:36:07.300 These are real problems that were caused by politics and get fixed by politics.
00:36:10.760 Okay, speaking of changing perceptions of the country, did you know that the pine tree flag,
00:36:15.640 the flag that says, and appeal to heaven, did you know that that is a dangerous symbol
00:36:20.340 of white, not even white, sorry, Christian nationalism?
00:36:23.700 It's a white flag, but it's a Christian nationalist flag.
00:36:26.080 That's according to a USA Today journalist.
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00:38:27.620 My favorite comment yesterday is from PerDog9859, who says,
00:38:33.240 that was a solid Michael Caine accent.
00:38:35.740 Thank you.
00:38:36.180 I can't do Australian. 0.99
00:38:37.920 As a kid, I think I was able to, but I can't do it.
00:38:40.400 So now, whenever I have to do an Australian accent, I think I'm just going to do Michael Caine.
00:38:45.340 Crikey, that's not a knife.
00:38:46.960 This is a knife.
00:38:47.740 My name's Crocodile Dundee.
00:38:48.880 Okay.
00:38:53.700 A USA Today journalist by the name of Zach Schermelli has this breaking news story
00:39:01.300 of this pine tree flag being flown.
00:39:05.040 The pine tree flag, which is the appeal to heaven flag.
00:39:07.240 It's a white standard with a pine tree on it.
00:39:08.680 It says appeal to heaven.
00:39:09.420 It says new, a controversial Christian nationalist flag is hanging outside the DC office
00:39:17.080 of a top education department official, the agency's union and an employee who's observed
00:39:21.940 it firsthand told me.
00:39:22.820 The flag, which was raised by rioters during the January 6th insurrection, is adorning the office
00:39:30.320 of Murray Bessett, principal deputy assistant secretary.
00:39:34.320 Whoa.
00:39:35.020 The principal deputy assistant secretary in the office of planning, evaluation, and policy
00:39:39.240 development.
00:39:39.700 The appeal to heaven flag, tells the journalist, is the same that was flown outside the vacation
00:39:45.540 home of conservative Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito in 2023, according to the New York Times.
00:39:50.400 Breaking, stop the presses.
00:39:51.440 This very controversial Christian nationalist flag.
00:39:54.860 Okay.
00:39:55.880 What's the flag?
00:39:56.200 Do we have a copy of the flag?
00:39:57.380 You've all seen it.
00:39:58.000 It's a white flag.
00:39:59.020 Pine tree, appeal to heaven.
00:40:00.480 Not only, not only is the flag not a Christian nationalist symbol.
00:40:05.880 This was a flag that was flown in the Revolutionary War.
00:40:09.100 It's one of the oldest flags in our country.
00:40:11.180 And it was commissioned by George Washington himself.
00:40:16.380 But it gets better.
00:40:18.120 Some people know that.
00:40:20.060 The liberals don't know that.
00:40:21.000 The people who work for USA Today, they don't know that.
00:40:23.340 The journalists, they don't know anything about that, anything about our history.
00:40:28.320 Most people on the right who care about these things know that the pine tree flag was
00:40:32.740 commissioned by George Washington.
00:40:34.060 So that's the funny rejoinder.
00:40:35.320 It gets even funnier, though, because Christian nationalism is posed by these sorts of people 1.00
00:40:41.940 as the antithesis of liberalism, good old classical liberalism in the American
00:40:49.720 tradition, the tradition of natural rights, and the Declaration of Independence, and John
00:40:55.460 Locke, who tells us that we have these rights to life, liberty, and property.
00:40:59.620 The phrase, an appeal to heaven, comes not from the Bible, not from St. Thomas Aquinas, not from some
00:41:11.600 preacher.
00:41:12.060 The phrase appeal to heaven.
00:41:13.800 The phrase appeal to heaven comes from John Locke, specifically John Locke's second treatise of
00:41:20.020 government, which is the foundational text of political liberalism.
00:41:25.520 John Locke, father of liberalism, second treatise, the foundational text of political liberalism.
00:41:32.160 That's where the phrase comes from.
00:41:35.180 I'm not the biggest John Locke fan in the world.
00:41:37.460 I think John Locke's influence on the American Revolution and the founding of our country is a
00:41:41.720 little bit overstated, actually.
00:41:43.320 I think other thinkers are more important.
00:41:45.120 I think the classical political tradition plays a big role, too.
00:41:47.880 However, the irony is, if you want to point to the pine tree flag as being the symbol of radical,
00:41:53.080 revanchist, retrograde, Christian nationalism, you are pointing to a phrase written by John
00:41:59.460 Locke, the father of liberalism, in the book that establishes political liberalism.
00:42:04.480 So what conclusion do we draw from this?
00:42:06.820 This is my favorite part of the whole story.
00:42:10.320 Let's just take the USA Today guy at his word, and let's take the New York Times, and it's not
00:42:15.240 just the USA Today guy.
00:42:16.140 It's all the libs.
00:42:17.160 When Sam Alito's wife was flying this flag over their home, they all freaked out.
00:42:20.780 They said, this is Christian nationalism.
00:42:21.960 If the pine tree flag is a symbol of Christian nationalism, as the liberals uniformly contend,
00:42:32.020 and if the pine tree flag was commissioned by George Washington himself, flown during the
00:42:38.040 American Revolution, and comes from John Locke's second treatise of government, what does that
00:42:45.780 tell us about America?
00:42:48.460 What does that tell us about the founding of America?
00:42:51.220 What does that tell us even about the founding fathers' view of Lockean liberalism?
00:42:56.640 It tells us that it's Christian nationalist.
00:43:01.380 It tells us that ours is a Christian nation.
00:43:05.360 It tells us that inasmuch as the founding fathers embraced Lockean liberalism, it was through
00:43:13.400 the lens of a Christian nation.
00:43:15.520 It tells us that Christian nationalism is the oldest tradition in our country, which obviously
00:43:24.760 it is, because even before the revolution, a century and a half before the American Revolution
00:43:30.000 and the Declaration of Independence, and even farther before the Constitution, all before
00:43:34.340 that, the country was settled by people who called themselves pilgrims, zealous Christians
00:43:40.780 establishing a new country in a new world.
00:43:44.340 I love that.
00:43:46.780 Three cheers for Zach Schermeli, and the New York Times for that matter.
00:43:50.840 Love this.
00:43:51.940 Yeah.
00:43:52.200 Okay.
00:43:52.880 Okay, guys, you're right.
00:43:54.040 The pine tree flag is Christian nationalist, and I guess so is George Washington and John
00:43:57.680 Locke.
00:43:58.020 Fine by me.
00:43:59.700 Fine.
00:43:59.860 I mean, look, read a little John Locke.
00:44:01.980 If the libs read John Locke today, they would call him a Christian nationalist.
00:44:06.020 He said that atheists shouldn't be able to speak in public.
00:44:08.900 Okay?
00:44:09.600 That's pretty good.
00:44:11.140 Speaking of journalistic malpractice, before we go, Jake Tapper, he was just interviewed.
00:44:17.880 He was doing like a cool live stream interview, okay?
00:44:20.600 He's got this book, Rage Against Terror.
00:44:23.520 And so he was doing his cool live stream interview.
00:44:24.940 He's not wearing a coat and tie.
00:44:26.320 He's wearing a hoodie and headphones.
00:44:27.740 He's not like a regular journalist.
00:44:30.100 He's a cool journalist.
00:44:31.660 So Jake Tapper goes on, and he's asked why he's so tough on Trump, why he keeps hammering
00:44:37.860 Trump, raising all these insinuations about Trump's fitness for office.
00:44:40.900 And his answer is perfect.
00:44:44.800 We cover it all the time on my show, all the time.
00:44:49.580 And I think that is to a large degree because we saw what happened with Biden.
00:44:57.740 And while we covered it, we didn't cover it.
00:44:59.500 Maybe we didn't ask as many questions as we should have at the time.
00:45:02.060 And I think it is a legitimate question for any president of any age, but particularly
00:45:06.340 anybody who is like in the range of being an octogenarian, right?
00:45:11.740 We cover it all the time.
00:45:13.700 Yeah, yeah.
00:45:14.220 We got it.
00:45:14.680 Look, I'll tell you why.
00:45:15.840 You want to know why I go so hard on Trump?
00:45:19.100 Because I gave Joe Biden a free pass, and I lied on his behalf for four years.
00:45:24.780 So that's why it's so important that I go hard on Trump.
00:45:31.060 This guy gets called out and say, you freaking hypocrite.
00:45:33.760 You pretend to be a serious, right down the middle journalist.
00:45:37.040 You're just after the facts, Jack.
00:45:39.040 And yet, you gave Biden, who was obviously demented in office the whole time.
00:45:44.800 You gave him a free pass.
00:45:46.000 You lied about it.
00:45:46.780 You pretended that he wasn't.
00:45:48.220 And now you're nitpicking Trump in ways that are also unfair, albeit on the other side.
00:45:53.320 And your excuse is, well, yeah, I totally derelicted my duty under Joe Biden.
00:45:58.460 So now I need to go 10 times as hard against Trump.
00:46:01.060 And that's somehow fair.
00:46:02.280 And it just so happens that when he accidentally derelicts his duty,
00:46:07.540 it's always during the Democrat administrations.
00:46:09.660 And it just so happens that when he puts on his journalist hat again,
00:46:12.900 and he redoubles his efforts to pursue the truth,
00:46:14.840 it's always under the Republican administrations.
00:46:17.020 Jake Tapper, who began his career in Democrat politics.
00:46:20.560 That is amazing.
00:46:21.820 The fact that Tapper could say this with a straight face,
00:46:25.300 dressed in that ridiculous attire on a live stream,
00:46:29.260 is, that's impressive.
00:46:30.940 We were talking earlier about white guys not making it in Hollywood,
00:46:34.920 you know, because of DEI or a compact Mac and everything.
00:46:38.420 Well, Jake Tapper could have made it in Hollywood.
00:46:40.440 That was an amazing performance.
00:46:41.800 That deserves an Oscar.
00:46:43.480 So much more I want to get to.
00:46:45.580 We might have a new Democrat presidential candidate on the horizon,
00:46:50.040 same as the old Democrat presidential candidate.
00:46:52.060 We might be getting Kamala 2.0, baby.
00:46:57.200 But I don't have time to talk about it today because it's Tee Hee Tuesday.
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00:47:05.000 All of this is an illusion, an echo of a voice that has died.
00:47:25.320 And soon that echo will cease.
00:47:26.800 They say that Merlin is mad.
00:47:40.860 They say he was a king in Dovid, the son of a princess of lost Atlantis.
00:47:51.900 They say the future and the past are known to him.
00:47:57.060 That the fire and the wind tell him their secrets.
00:48:00.620 That the magic of the hill folk and druids come forth at his easy command.
00:48:05.400 They say he slew hundreds, hundreds, do you hear?
00:48:12.360 That the world burned and trembled at his wrath.
00:48:15.360 The Merlin died long before you and I were born.
00:48:24.620 Merlin Emrys has returned to the land of the living.
00:48:30.500 Fortigan is gone.
00:48:32.320 Rome is gone.
00:48:34.180 The Saxon is here. 0.76
00:48:36.860 Saxon Hengist has assembled the greatest war host ever seen in the Island of the Mighty. 0.99
00:48:41.060 And before the summer is through, he means to take the throne.
00:48:46.020 And he will have it.
00:48:47.520 If we are too busy squabbling amongst ourselves to take up arms against him,
00:48:52.200 here is your hope.
00:48:54.000 A king will arise to hold all Britain in his hand.
00:48:57.880 A high king.
00:48:59.040 He will be the wonder of the world.
00:49:01.980 You.
00:49:04.300 To a future of peace.
00:49:06.660 There'll be no peace in these lands till we are all dust.
00:49:12.500 Men of the Island of the Mighty,
00:49:14.540 you stand together.
00:49:17.720 You stand as Britons.
00:49:20.820 You stand as one.
00:49:22.280 Great darkness is falling upon this land.
00:49:28.940 These brothers are our only hope to stand against it.
00:49:33.340 Not our only hope.
00:49:34.800 They say Merlin slew 17 men with his own hands.
00:49:40.340 And Gathay, he slew 500.
00:49:44.460 No man is capable of such a thing.
00:49:47.360 No mortal man.