The FBI foiled yet another terror plot aimed at Los Angeles on New Year s Eve. Which group is more dangerous: leftist terrorists or Islamic ones? Today's After Show is brought to you by The Daily Wire and Sponsored by Birch Gold.
00:03:53.320I'll highlight some of the items found during those searches over the weekend.
00:03:58.060For example, in Carroll's residence, law enforcement found multiple posters and materials associated with Turtle Island Liberation Front, including posters stating, quote, death to America, long live Turtle Island and Palestine, and, quote, death to ice, Turtle Island Liberation Front.
00:04:15.900In Page's residence, law enforcement found a copy of the detailed bomb attack plan.
00:04:22.480This case is another reminder about the dangers that radicalized Antifa-like groups posed to public safety and the rule of law.
00:04:31.420So this group, this spinoff from the Turtle Island Liberation Front, included a few people who were arrested.
00:04:48.280These are people who were 30, 32, 24, relatively young people.
00:04:52.800They come from a pretty affluent area near Los Angeles.
00:04:56.200I think the median home price in some of these areas is anywhere from $900,000 to $2 million a home is a nice area.
00:05:03.080This is a bunch of rich kids who grew up, who never did anything other than cause trouble, a story oldest time, and they're chanting, death to ice, death to America, long live Turtle Island, whatever that is, and Palestine forever.
00:05:22.760Something, Palestine, what was the line?
00:05:25.260It's cut off there on the free Palestine, long live Palestine.
00:05:29.120Okay, they write, when we say death to America and call for an end to colonization, it doesn't mean the displacement or harm of non-indigenous citizens.
00:05:41.680So you're looking at all this stuff and you're saying, all right, this is a left-wing group.
00:05:44.700The names here, right, Tina Lay, Eileen Carroll, Zach Page.
00:05:48.880This isn't exactly Mohammed, Mohammed Jihad.
00:05:51.160These are totally normal American names.
00:05:53.640And it's a leftist group, one of these liberation fronts, the kind of groups that have shot up the Capitol, blown up federal buildings, killed civilians in advance of left-wing terror.
00:06:05.320And yet, you look at the slogans and they say, death to America.
00:06:08.200That's the same thing that the mullahs in Iran chant.
00:06:10.640That's the same thing that the Islamists all throughout the Levant chant.
00:06:16.880Obviously, this is the kind of stuff that Islamists chant throughout the Middle East, really throughout the world, as they globalize the Intifada.
00:06:24.040The Islamists wear keffias as part of their protest, but then so do the leftists in America.
00:06:31.220And it causes you to wonder, well, hold on, what is the difference between some rich white kid in Los Angeles and some crazy Wahhabi in the Middle East?
00:06:40.940What is the, if practically speaking, they're chanting the same slogans, in some cases in advance of the same causes, what's the difference between the two?
00:06:52.340I know there are these nice, well-meaning liberals who say, this is just so crazy.
00:06:56.360How on earth could an American liberal or a British liberal or a European liberal have sympathy with these radical Islamists?
00:07:04.840By golly, the Islamists don't like homosexuals.
00:07:53.980I've tried not to talk about it too much because I think it's counterproductive.
00:07:56.420But everyone else on the right, everyone else with a microphone seems to want to talk endlessly about the right-wing civil war and all the little gossipy stuff and all the kooky conspiracy theories and all of the detraction and all of the calumny and all of the scintillating tabloid trash.
00:08:11.980That's all anybody wants to talk about.
00:08:13.640And at a more respectable level, I suppose, they want to talk about the fissures on the right, the right-wing civil war.
00:08:22.320And there's always a right-wing civil war.
00:08:23.920There was a right-wing civil war back in the days of William F. Buckley Jr.
00:08:28.060There was a right-wing civil war when it was George Bush versus Pat Buchanan.
00:08:32.320There's a right-wing civil war between the Neos and the Paleos 20 years ago.
00:08:36.280There's a right-wing civil war between the movement conservatives and the Rockefeller Republicans.
00:08:40.540There's, I don't know, there was a right-wing civil war between Teddy Roosevelt and Taft.
00:08:45.220Okay, there are always fissures on the right.
00:09:57.620That's what unites, at a very basic political level, at an almost premoral political level, just talking about what distinguishes groups from other groups.
00:10:08.720One thing that contributes to that, one thing that contributes to that in a large measure is having a common enemy.
00:10:19.200And so, I know people are going to pretend to be surprised, or maybe they're naively, innocently surprised, that the radical left could sound exactly like the Islamists in the Middle East, even though they differ in their opinions of women and homosexuals and other things.
00:10:33.620And maybe they differ in their opinion of the existence of God, even.
00:10:36.440But what unites them is they have a common enemy.
00:10:39.540And so, practically speaking, for all intents and purposes, they're the same.
00:10:44.980When you hear that a terror attack has been foiled, when you hear that a terror attack has been carried out, there is a reason that the first question that comes to the minds of reasonable people is, gosh, was this one the radical left, or was this one the Muslims?
00:10:58.560And practically speaking, it's kind of hard to tell the difference.
00:11:00.940Okay, speaking of major attacks, there was the attack carried out by Muslims in Australia a few days ago, targeted a Hanukkah celebration, targeted Jews, killed I think 16 people, dozens and dozens of people were injured, some of them critically.
00:11:17.680Around the same time, there was a smaller scale attack, but an attack that was closer to home, that was at Brown University.
00:11:24.000And while the attack in Australia was totally clear, the attack at Brown is quite unclear.
00:11:29.980We know that one of the victims was this beautiful young girl, 19-year-old girl, who was the vice president of the Republican Club on campus.
00:11:39.920Then there was this open question, was she targeted, was she not targeted?
00:11:43.820We now have a second victim identified.
00:11:46.300But just to focus on the first victim for a second, there's reporting from Mark Halperin, who's a very good reporter, very good journalist, who is saying that what he is hearing, albeit unconfirmed,
00:11:56.720is that that victim, the vice president of the Republican Club, was the target of the attack.
00:12:05.060People are telling me that the family of, I just need to look up her name, I apologize.
00:12:14.240That the family of Ella Cook, the Alabama young woman who was a sophomore, has been told that she was the target of what happened at Brown.
00:12:24.060There's other theories about why the person did what they did, but now that we don't know who the assailant is, it's going to be harder to say.
00:12:32.220But if it's true that she was targeted, that's a big story because she was one of the most visible conservatives on that campus.
00:12:38.440Don't know that it's true, but probably most of you don't even know that that's being alleged because you'd have to follow certain accounts on X or have sources, as I do, who are telling me that.
00:12:49.460But so caveats abound, Mark Alperin saying, look, we don't know, this is unconfirmed, but we don't really know much of anything about this attack yet, do we?
00:12:55.840And so for a lot of people, they don't even know that it is a possibility that one of the few, this is Brown University, this is one of the most liberal colleges in the entire country.
00:13:05.380They don't even know that it's a possibility that this was a targeted ideological attack because they don't know that the girl was the vice president of the Republican Club.
00:13:13.860There are probably 10 Republicans on that entire campus.
00:13:16.660Now, the second victim was identified.
00:13:53.480And on top of that, there is one media outlet called Center Square reporting that the shooter yelled, Allahu Akbar, before the shooting, which is a pattern that we've come to expect.
00:14:50.120The one thing you're not allowed to do, though, is to speculate.
00:14:53.520The one thing you're not allowed to do is to say, well, you know, like basically all of these attacks are carried out by two groups of people.
00:15:12.920However, the thing that we do know is you're not allowed to speculate as to whether or not that the shooting follows longstanding trends.
00:15:24.520To Mark Halpern's point, I think is totally apt here.
00:15:26.460He goes, look, I don't know if this was ideologically targeted.
00:15:29.460What I do know is that most people don't even realize that's a possibility.
00:15:32.280And just to raise the point again, the Providence police seem to have bungled this whole case.
00:15:39.740Brown seems to have bungled this whole case.
00:15:41.440But the odds that the vice president of the Republican club at Brown, Brown, which makes Harvard and Yale look like Hillsdale, Brown, was the victim here?
00:15:56.740And by all accounts, a targeted victim, the odds of that are so low.
00:16:02.960The odds of that being a mere coincidence, you have to wonder, gosh, was this part of this trend of violence against conservatives throughout the country?
00:16:12.300Even the Atlantic magazine admitting that terrorism is now a left-wing problem, chiefly a left-wing problem.
00:16:21.400Are you even hearing about this in the establishment media?
00:16:23.020Speaking of identity, an extremely, extremely important essay just came out in Compact magazine, a report on the effects of DEI, identity politics, specifically on white men.
00:16:36.460And not all white men, specifically on millennial white men.
00:16:40.520And how that trend of white identity politics starting to creep up, where that came from.
00:16:47.260It didn't come from nowhere, and it's totally understandable where it came from.
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00:17:03.460Here is something most people don't realize.
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00:17:07.500As the year winds down, credit card companies and lenders are rushing to close their books.
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00:23:52.060And most of the white men, across party lines, across geographic lines, most of the white men said, oh, okay.
00:23:59.640They said, that's great, you know, wonderful, how great.
00:24:02.240Or if they said, well, we're being discriminated against, that's, they mostly kept quiet at least.
00:24:06.400And the consequence of that was, you had at least a decade of active, explicit, overt, legally protected, culturally celebrated discrimination against a very particular group of people.
00:24:23.020Not even just white men, millennial white men and older Zoomer white men.
00:24:27.060And now all the think pieces decry the rise of identity politics on the right and among white people.
00:24:36.300What did you think was going to happen?
00:24:38.180What did you think was going to happen?
00:24:39.620There's a Pew report that came out some years ago that showed that white people are the only group that doesn't have a racial identity.
00:24:46.700Showed greater than 50% racial identity.
00:24:49.480People who said that race was important or very important to their sense of identity.
00:24:53.500Greater than 50% among Asians, Hispanics, and black people.