Ep. 1880 - JD Vance And Nicki Minaj COOK At AmFest
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After two days of podcasters attacking each other from the TPUSA stage, Vice President J.D. Vance emerges at AmericaFest with the best speech of the weekend, though perhaps not the most surprising stage appearance went to Nicki Minaj, who walked out with Erica Kirk and gave the most incisive remarks.
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After two days of podcasters attacking each other from the TPUSA stage,
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Vice President J.D. Vance emerges at AmericaFest with the best speech of the weekend.
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Though perhaps not the most surprising stage appearance, as that honor went to Nicki Minaj,
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who walked out with Erica Kirk and gave the most incisive remarks. Maybe not the most incisive
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remarks, but certainly more incisive remarks than many of the professional political commentators.
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And a lot of people were surprised to see Nicki Minaj show up to TPUSA.
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But if you, like some of us, are longtime barbs, you will know that even going back to 2012,
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Now the question on everybody's mind. Vance Minaj 28. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.
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vice president at AmericaFest. This after days of podcasters attacking each other, trying to excise
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one another from the conservative movement, airing all of their grievances, as many people expected
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would happen. J.D. comes out and he hits a few major important points. Speaking of racial politics,
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Santa being black and all that, here is what J.D. had to say about the DEI racial ideologies of the last
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five to 15 years. In the United States of America, you don't have to apologize for being white anymore.
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And if you're an Asian, you don't have to talk around your skin color when you're applying for
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college because we judge people based on who they are, not on ethnicity and things they can't control.
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It's it right out of the park. A speech like this would have been, even just a line like that would
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have been unthinkable 10 years ago, would have been too edgy. Oh, we can't, we can talk, we can
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talk about black grievance politics. We can talk about Hispanic grievance politics, Arab grievance
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politics. And you talk about, it's not that you can't talk about racial identity, but the idea that
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you could possibly mention that you shouldn't be ashamed of yourself for being a white person,
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that would have been too far for the GOP, for the conservative movement. Now, not only is that not
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too far, but it's urgent. And the 30,000 people completely sold out crowd at AmericaFest, they
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appreciated that. They appreciated that because they know that it is unjust. It's finally become clear
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after really not even just 15 years, after decades of this ideology telling people to feel bad about
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themselves if they're white. It's become clear, this is totally unacceptable. And it's so, I don't
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know, contrary to the supposed ideals of America, we have to get rid of it. Still bold of the vice
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president to say it. I'm sure a lot of Republicans would have been cowards and wouldn't call out one
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of the elephants in the room. But it's important that he does that. He's speaking to the moment.
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This is a guy who is not just fighting the last political battle. This is a guy who's not just
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running on the slogans and bromides of 40 years ago or something. This is a guy who knows what the
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political moment is. So he speaks to this racial identity issue, which the left has used to so twist
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the culture. And then he speaks to religion. More than any time I can recount, people are
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talking about American identity and figuring out what it is that unites us. But I want to say
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something here. The only thing that is truly served as an anchor of the United States of America
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America is that we have been. And by the grace of God, we always will be a Christian nation.
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Now, I want to be explicit because, of course, the fake news media will twist everything that I say.
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I'm not saying you have to be a Christian to be an American. I'm saying something simpler and truer.
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Christianity is America's creed. The shared moral language from the Revolution to the Civil War and
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beyond. Across that history, our country's major debates have always centered on how we could best as
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a people please God. Beautifully, beautifully stated. As we all debate American identity,
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this is going to be the big question next year. America 250, we're celebrating a quarter millennium
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since the American Revolution. And we're in this period of massive flux. The largest demographic
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change ever in recorded history has happened in the United States in the last 60 years.
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We're aging just naturally as a country, as an empire. And so this raises all sorts of questions
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about identity. This happened in ancient Rome. That's why Virgil writes the Aeneid, to give
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a new and present sense of the Roman identity. So this question is really present. And some people
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want to say it's all about stock. It's all about race. Some people want to say it's all about creed.
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It's all about ideas. Really, neither of those answers is sufficient. It obviously has to be some
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combination of the two. So J.D. touches on the racial issues that the left has been pushing so much
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for decades. And then he hits the creedal issue. He says, look, guys, some of you want to say
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America is a liberal. I'm reading into this. He doesn't explicitly say this. But some of you want
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to say America is just a liberal democracy. And it's all just about liberalism, liberalism,
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liberalism, as the left wants to say. And some of the squishes on the right want to say.
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But that isn't true. That is an innovation of the middle to back half of the 20th century.
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That isn't what motivated George Washington. That isn't what motivated Governor Winthrop.
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That isn't what motivated Abraham Lincoln exactly. So what is it? What is the creed of America?
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He says, it's obvious. The founding fathers told us. Actually, even the early settlers before the
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founding fathers told us. And Lincoln told us. And Eisenhower told us. And they all told us.
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It's Christianity. That's the creed. But it's not just Episcopalianism or Methodism or Baptist
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Protestantism or Catholicism. It's something a little bit different. It's Christianity
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read through the American experience. What John Adams says back in 1813, he says that the general
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principles of Christianity are the principles on which independence was won. Abraham Lincoln,
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fast forward to 1860, Abraham Lincoln is essentially writing all of his speeches through the language of
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the King James Bible, the abolitionists writing in this kind of language, even all the way up to the
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civil rights activists of the 1960s. This through line from the Mayflower through a model of Christian
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charities, shiny city on a hill, through the revolution, through the civil war, through the late 19th, 20th
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centuries, all the way up to the present day, all the way up to Ronald Reagan saying we're a shiny city on a hill,
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echoing Winthrop, all the way up to the present day. We're a Christian country. And our political
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creed reads Christianity through the American experience. So we tolerate other people. We're
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quite open. However, that's the creed. That's the foundation of the creed. Beautifully stated.
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Complex idea, nuanced idea that's articulated very clearly by the vice president. And then he hits this
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third point, which I think allowed his speech to stand in stark contrast to many of the other speeches
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over the weekend. He talked about the political coalition. President Trump did not build the
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greatest coalition in politics by running his supporters through endless self-defeating purity
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tests. He says, make America great again because every American is invited.
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So if you love America, if you want all of us to be richer, stronger, safer and prouder, you have a home
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on this team. I didn't bring a list of conservatives to denounce or to de-platform. And I don't really care
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if some people out there, I'm sure we'll have the fake news media denounce me after this speech.
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But let me just say, the best way to honor Charlie is that none of us here should be doing something
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after Charlie's death that he himself refused to do in life. Bingo. He invited all of us here.
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Bingo. It goes on. Watch the whole speech. It's really, really good. This is the key to me. This
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is the key to the first stages of the coalition. Obviously, the coalition already exists, but the
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first stages of this new episode. The big debate is who's in and who's out? Who gets to be in
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the conservative movement and who gets to be out? That was with so much of, not my speech,
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not the vice president's speech, but that's with so much of what TPUSA was about this year.
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This person should be out. That person should be out. This person should have been invited in.
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This person, that, the other thing. And I don't mean to suggest that setting boundaries isn't
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important. You know I love boundaries. You know when the entire conservative movement was talking
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about how we all love free speech absolutism, and you should say whatever you want. I said,
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no, we need boundaries. We need standards. That's ridiculous. Censorship is good.
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Okay, I think I've got pretty solid bona fides when it comes to circumscribing political movements.
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And the approach by many people at TPUSA was to say, yeah, this person and that person and this person
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who are going to speak over the next few days, I don't like them. And they're weak and they're bad
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and they're all these things and they should be out. That was probably the dominant approach by the
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speakers. That's not my approach. Because we will, when we look at the left, the left looks at every
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single person who was on that TPUSA stage as exactly the same. And politics is not just debate club.
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And it's not just about feeling really nice and exalting one's moral principles, be they legitimate
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or faulty, as the end goal of politics itself. It's about putting those eternal principles into
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action so that they have political effect. It's about winning. You have to win. You don't want to
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commit injustice. You don't want to do things that are intrinsically bad, but you have to win in
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politics. Debate club, you don't really have to win because you go home and you eat your little
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snack and you go back to school the next day and it doesn't matter whether you win or lose.
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Politics, you have to win. There are real consequences to it.
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I should hope that the assassination of Charlie Kirk by a leftist political activist would tell
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you that. So how do we figure out? That's really the question. It's not, should there be people in
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and out? How do we figure it out? And it seems to me, the vice president has exactly the right
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approach here, which is Charlie gave us a roadmap. Charlie excluded some people from that conference.
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The last text that I didn't return to Charlie was about some extra stuff he wanted me to do at
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AmericaFest. And I'm terrible at responding to anybody's texts and I didn't text him back.
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I think I thought about it the morning he died, actually. I thought, oh, I owe Charlie a text.
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But that's what he was talking to me about. He was planning this thing out for a very,
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very long time. And he knew who was speaking. And he had a vague idea of what all the events
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were going to be. And we were talking about some extra events to do. He invited those people.
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Okay. And JD's point that we should not do something after Charlie's death at what is
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essentially a tribute to Charlie that he himself would not have done, I think is an apt traditionalist
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observation, a good path forward. Charlie invited a bunch of people to AmericaFest.
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Some of those people hate each other. Okay, that's too bad. In Charlie's estimation,
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that was the team. And that was a good team. And maybe that was a necessary team.
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Charlie also excluded people from AmericaFest. There were plenty of big names who were not invited,
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who were very intentionally not invited. That was part of his strategy too.
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And I'm not saying that Charlie has to dictate the Republican coalition ad infinitum,
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you know, 50 years into the future. But I think we all have to acknowledge he did a very good job
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at it, Charlie. He made, in the words of Susie Wiles, White House Chief of Staff,
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the winning difference in 2024. He was as good a coalition builder and maintainer as anybody in
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American politics. Probably better. Probably better. And so perhaps we ought to glean a little
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wisdom from that. Perhaps we ought to play the hand that we've been dealt, which when it comes
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to the coalition that we have, is actually a good hand. When it comes to the coalition that's been
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built, it's the hand that won the popular vote for the Republican Party for the first time in 20 years.
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Maybe we should work from that rather than litigate and relitigate political fights that long predate
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any present issues that have been going on for years and years and years. You get 100 conservatives
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in a room, they're all going to want to slap each other and smack each other and pick all sorts of
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fights. And that's part of who we are. We're independent thinkers. I get it. I get it. But
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we have to keep our eyes on the prize. This is not just about gaining market share within a podcast
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space. This is not just about giving the most exciting speech. This is not just about winning
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some abstract debate. This is politics. This is about winning. It's about maintaining a moral core.
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It's about exacting justice. It's about having the right people on the team that are electorally
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viable. And it's about winning. Okay. Brilliant, brilliant speech from J.D. Vance. And then comes
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Folks, America Fest was explosive. Conservative pundits get smacking each other all over the place.
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But only on my new episode of Bar Fight did two of them fight face to face. In this episode,
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I sit down with Gen Z, Kai Schwemmer and Gen X, old guard Steve Dace to duke it out over the issues
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of boiling up right now from Israel to the economy. Check out this quick teaser.
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You think Trump is a schmuck. He was born in Texas. Why was it that he flew over to Israel and
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was told that he was at home? Can the United States act morally and justly in the world while
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defending Israel? If your tactics were to be blunt, a little less douchey at times.
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I mean, I completely disagree. No, no, no, no, no. Do not pence me, bro. We have the host of the
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Steve Dace show. And that would be my friend, Steve Dace. When you look at the facts on the ground
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and they don't support the narrative. When we are literally giving the, we're literally
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citing the greatest. Also to my left, you know him from Jubilee. And that would be Kai Schwemmer.
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An existing law, which had banned premarital sex.
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Watch full episode right now on the Michael Knowles YouTube channel for the uncensored ad-free
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version. Subscribe to Daily Wire Plus. Nicki Minaj comes out on stage, brings the crowd down.
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She walked out with Erica Kirk, Charlie's widow. It was absolutely phenomenal. She then sits down.
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And what I haven't seen anyone notice right now is that the points that Nicki Minaj hit
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were the same points from the vice president's speech.
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We were not being represented and not being admired for our beauty. If we felt like that
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as black women, why would we want to do that to other women? Why would we now need to make
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other people downplay their beauty so that we can feel, no, that's not how it works. I don't need
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someone with blonde hair and blue eyes to downplay their beauty because I know my beauty. Do you
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understand? It doesn't bother me that a woman feels and says that she's beautiful. Why shouldn't
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she feel that? Why have we gotten to a point where certain colors or certain kinds of people have to
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be afraid of loving themselves and loving the way they look? Isn't that wild?
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I love this. She opens up what she says. She says the same thing JD said. She said,
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you don't have to apologize for being white. You don't have to apologize for being black. You
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don't have to apologize for being Hispanic. And you don't have to apologize for being white.
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This parallel, it wasn't just the parallel on race. Listen to her next point on religion.
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Truly feel that there are people out there who felt good about
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chastising Christians right here in our country.
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And it's kind of really, really sick. We can't let people like that be in power, you guys.
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That's the truth. I can sugarcoat it and laugh and kiki, but the truth is I am here today
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to tell you guys that. We absolutely cannot let people who have a problem with us worshipping God,
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we cannot have them in power. We cannot have them in power.
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We cannot survive as a country if our political leaders are hostile to Christianity,
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are hostile to the foundation of our creed. It's the same thing JD said almost.
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And this is very hopeful. A lot of people are upset about the infighting among the media people.
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However, this I think is really hopeful. Because on the one hand, you got JD Vance,
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vice president of the United States, graduate of Yale Law School, alum of Silicon Valley and private
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equity, came from a hard scrabble, rough bringing among the white working class of Ohio and Appalachia.
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You got him on one poll. You got Nicki Minaj, who comes from maybe the opposite cultural background,
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as polar opposite a cultural background as there can be in the United States.
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And yet, not only do they agree broadly, they are agreeing point by bold point.
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There were signs with Nicki Minaj, as I mentioned at the top. She had that line about,
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I'm voting for Mitt Romney because all you lazy B-I-T-C-Hs are messing up the economy or whatever.
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There were some signs a while ago. But Barb's totally vindicated again. Really beautiful
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remarks. Nicki Minaj has been outspoken about persecuted Christians around the world,
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especially in Nigeria. Now, apparently in the United States too. Really, really good stuff.
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All in all, very hopeful. Seems to me there's a pretty clear path forward, despite all of the
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infighting. Convenient or whether you view the infighting as convenient, cynical, or absolutely
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necessary. Whatever you think. I think we should all agree, you got to win. You got to do stuff in
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politics. And I think there's a lot of hope coming out of TPUSA because it was already clear before,
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given the historical circumstance of Trump winning a non-consecutive second term.
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But the vice president is the heir apparent. President Trump has suggested as much.
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The secretary of state, Marco Rubio, has endorsed J.D. Vance for president.
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And Rubio would probably be the second most likely person to get it. This is just how it goes. It's
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not that the vice president is necessarily the heir apparent in any administration. But when you've got
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a president running for a non-consecutive second term, this is only the second time that's happened in
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history. Part of the deal when he's picking a running mate is assuming that that guy will be
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the next one. He's in some ways got the advantages of an incumbent. And then you got Nicki Minaj all
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but endorsing him from the stage. They're pretty good stuff. Okay. Now, there was some disagreement
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on this nature of American identity. Not just who should be in the conservative movement,
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who should be out, who do I like, who do I not like. But the nature of American identity
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York Times column sometime last week where he talked about this idea of American identity
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as being a question of either blood and soil or entirely creedal, which I think is a false
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dichotomy, but it does clarify some of the stakes here. And Vivek says it's all creedal. It has nothing
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to do with blood and soil, has nothing to do with ancestry. Well, Vivek expounded upon that point on the
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TPSA stage where he assailed the idea of heritage Americans.
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There's a different vision of American identity that's emergent in certain corridors of the online
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right. And it says that your identity as an American is based on your lineage. That how long
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you have been in the country, your lineage and your genetics tied to the blood and soil of the country
00:26:14.320
determines how American you are. It is the idea of a heritage American that says the truest form
00:26:19.880
of an American is somebody who is a descendant of the American Revolution period or before.
00:26:26.340
And I will tell you this idea of the heritage American, we ought to have this discussion. It's
00:26:31.660
becoming more popular. I think the idea of a heritage American is about as loony as anything the woke
00:26:38.800
left has actually put up. There is no American who is more American than somebody else. The American
00:26:46.020
quality, it's not like the left, they believe in this non-binary stuff. There's no non-binary American.
00:26:50.040
It is binary. Either you're an American or you're not. And you think about it, I could prove this to
00:26:55.140
you. Thank you. I'll take some applause on that. Okay. So he gets some applause on this idea and he
00:27:00.700
says, look, there's this idea of the heritage American that if you've been here for a long time,
00:27:05.320
you're more American than people who just got here. And he refers to the revolutionary period
00:27:11.600
or earlier. What's interesting is there are these heritage groups. They've been around
00:27:15.040
forever in American history. And coincidentally, I'm actually a member of some of these groups,
00:27:20.180
like the Mayflower Society or groups like the Sons of the American Revolution.
00:27:24.880
There are a number of others, the Daughters of the American Revolution, which I'm not a member of,
00:27:29.140
but they now allow in transvestites. So I suppose I could be a member of them if I wanted to.
00:27:32.980
In any case, what's interesting is a lot of the talk about those heritage groups
00:27:37.960
suggests that they're all just about flaunting privilege, being some old elite blue bloods
00:27:43.040
or something. When in fact, the opposite is true. First of all, the members of these groups
00:27:47.240
generally are not these fancy sorts of elites. They're people who care a lot about their country
00:27:53.340
and who are focused on service. So it's salt of the earth people, just like the people who founded
00:27:58.360
this country, who came over on the Mayflower, who fought at age 15 and 16 in the American
00:28:02.180
Revolution. These tend to be salt of the earth people who want to give back to their country.
00:28:07.740
They love their country so much, they want to give their time and their money and their efforts
00:28:11.500
to preserving the country. So a lot of what they do is community service, scholarships,
00:28:16.640
maintaining museums and things like that. Totally misunderstands what these groups are for.
00:28:23.760
But Vivek makes a very good point, which is he goes on, we clipped it, there was not quite
00:28:29.460
enough time. But he goes on, he says, look, if America is chiefly about how long you've been here,
00:28:34.980
that means that Liz Warren is more American than Marco Rubio, not just because she's white,
00:28:39.720
because she's a Native American. And he says, if how long your family's been here dictates how
00:28:45.580
American you are, Joe Biden would be more American than Donald Trump. And it's a good rejoinder.
00:28:51.980
It maybe makes us think, okay, maybe there are diminishing marginal returns because the real old
00:28:57.680
stock, blue blood, New England types do tend to be pretty lib. There's no, Vivek has a very good
00:29:04.420
point there. But on the flip side, do you really believe that you are not more American than the guy
00:29:15.480
who was naturalized yesterday? The guy who flew here from some country in the middle of Africa.
00:29:23.100
And he loves him. He's excited about America. He wants the opportunity. He passed the naturalization
00:29:28.220
test. And he comes there, he says, I read all these truths to be self-evident that all men are
00:29:32.900
created equal. And I love that. I read the declaration. I read the constitution. I passed the test.
00:29:39.520
You're telling me that that guy whose habits, possibly whose religion, whose traditions and
00:29:46.100
institutions are totally foreign to the United States, that guy is exactly as American as all of
00:29:54.360
you listening right now, as someone whose family's been here since the Civil War or the American
00:29:58.900
Revolution or the Mayflower. Give me a break. Nobody really believes that. So can those two things be
00:30:04.380
true at once? Can there be diminishing returns? Is there a basis of American identity that is not
00:30:09.200
purely based on how long your blood's been in the soil? And if so, what is that? And I think a good
00:30:16.840
guide to this would be Thomas Aquinas reading the ancient Israelites. I think I mentioned this a few
00:30:20.800
weeks ago on the show. Thomas Aquinas, who has to come up on the show at least once a day,
00:30:25.860
reading the ancient Israelites, observes that the ancient Israelites would not allow new peoples who
00:30:31.060
entered to become citizens until after three generations. And in this, he was following Aristotle,
00:30:38.520
who also has to come up on the show every day, that it takes a little bit of time, actually even more
00:30:44.000
than one lifetime. Doesn't necessarily take 30 generations, but it might take a few generations
00:30:48.720
to become acculturated to a new people. And Aquinas goes further, reading the ancient Israelites.
00:30:56.160
He points out that some peoples, they viewed as being able to assimilate. Others, like the Amalekites,
00:31:01.880
say they just couldn't. They just could not assimilate. And so you actually have to distinguish
00:31:06.300
between the peoples who are more likely to assimilate the ones who are not.
00:31:10.980
German Christians are probably more likely to assimilate than Sudanese Muslims. It's just a fact.
00:31:17.800
It's just a fact. And maybe we need to make some of those distinctions in America.
00:31:24.080
All, it's not saying that Vivek doesn't have a point. Vivek does have a point.
00:31:27.220
But it seems there's much more to it. It's a truth, but it's a partial view of the truth.
00:31:32.820
And we're going to have to grapple with that because the old Reagan lines, you know, well,
00:31:37.500
these illegal aliens are, they're the conservative Republican Americans. They just don't know it yet.
00:31:43.660
Well, they haven't become conservative Republican Americans. That hasn't happened.
00:31:47.480
And so maybe that was wrong. Anybody can be an American. Well, like maybe, sort of,
00:31:51.540
I don't know, maybe not quite. We have to rethink these things. The old slogans don't necessarily
00:31:59.080
work anymore. Part of the reason the GOP kept losing is because all we ever tried to do with
00:32:05.620
our candidates was just revivify the corpse of Ronald Reagan. Reagan did a great, great job in
00:32:12.120
his time. But please let the man rest. We have to address the concerns of our time. Ronald Reagan
00:32:18.500
didn't just get up there when he was running for office and say like, well, as Taft said,
00:32:22.940
and I, I want, I'm, I'm a Taft Republican and I am channeling the spirit of William Howard Taft.
00:32:30.960
He didn't do that. He's, I'm, I'm my own man. I'm, I'm, in fact, in many ways, he said, look,
00:32:35.200
I'm a Democrat, but the Democrat party left me and I need to form a new political coalition to
00:32:40.300
address our changing circumstances. So the people who really even want to follow in the footsteps of
00:32:44.460
Ronald Reagan, they have to do that. They don't, they can't just plug electrodes into him.
00:32:48.160
Like he's Frankenstein's monster and try to get the guy to jump out of the grave. It's not going to
00:32:51.800
work. Now, speaking of heritage, Santa Claus is black. According to Disney, we'll get to that
00:32:57.600
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dailywire.com slash gift today. My favorite comment yesterday, I didn't pick the comment. The producers
00:33:37.160
picked the comment. So I want to see, I don't know if I agree with this. We'll see. It's from the
00:33:42.400
Drummer's Workshop Norm's Music. It's probably going to be a good one. It says, it's not a Civil War
00:33:46.300
party without Barbara Rose Johns. Barbara, you know, can you even, can one even begin to tell the
00:33:54.240
story of America? Can one even begin to touch on the story of Western civilization going back to the
00:34:02.440
ancient Greeks without talking about Barbara Rose Johns? Do you remember who that is? You probably
00:34:09.960
don't. She's that lady who they knocked down General Lee statues for and put her up in the
00:34:14.820
Capitol. And most people, even though I've said her name two or three times now in this episode,
00:34:19.100
most people won't even remember her name. What's her name? Hey, pop quiz. What is the name of civil
00:34:25.800
rights icon and glorious American hero? Can you name her name? You might not be able to.
00:34:33.040
How dare you? You can't even talk about American history then. Santa Claus is black,
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according to Disney. They have replaced the white Santa Claus with a black Santa Claus at Epcot.
00:34:45.880
Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night.
00:34:52.840
According to Wall Street Apes, which is one of the funny Twitter accounts, not only was Mrs. Claus replaced
00:35:00.920
by a black Mrs. Claus on the Disney cruise ships, and not only was Mrs. Claus replaced by a black woman
00:35:08.040
at the Disneyland Christmas Parade, but Disney has now replaced Santa himself with a black Santa at Epcot.
00:35:17.000
Santa Claus is not black. Santa Claus, I don't, listen, open your ears, pull over your car, sit down.
00:35:24.740
I want you to hear this loud and clear. Santa Claus is not black. Do you know why? Because Santa Claus
00:35:31.740
lives at the North Pole, and there aren't black people at the North Pole. If Santa Claus were black,
00:35:38.800
that would mean that Santa Claus is a recent immigrant to the North Pole, but he's not a recent
00:35:44.040
immigrant. He's been at the North Pole for a very long time because he's a jolly old elf with a bowl full
00:35:49.580
of jelly who's been giving Christmas presents to children in his magical sleigh with his eight
00:35:54.760
tiny reindeer since time immemorial. So he's not black. If Santa Claus's ancestor had been black,
00:36:05.280
Santa Claus would cease to have been black by now because of the many millennia of acculturation
00:36:13.640
and development at the North Pole. He is white and an elf, and he's a jolly, and he has a bowl full
00:36:21.800
of jelly. Stop trying to erase Santa Claus. Now, some will say Santa Claus isn't real. First of all,
00:36:30.060
I don't accept that. But second of all, even if you wanted to get really into the nitty-gritty on the
00:36:34.820
historical personae on whom Santa Claus, Sinterklaas, is based, we would be talking about Saint Nicholas,
00:36:41.920
Saint Nicholas, who was Greek. And even though the Greeks might be kind of black compared to the
00:36:49.080
English, say, they're not black, they're Greek. He is from Turkey. Now, Turkey has been overrun by
00:36:57.660
the Turks. Used to be Constantinople, used to be Greece, but now it's Turkey. But even the Turks are
00:37:03.320
not black. One could sort of argue that they're Asian. Saint Nicholas is from the Asian province of
00:37:09.400
the Roman Empire. One could argue, given the fact that Santa Claus lives in the North Pole,
00:37:16.180
that he looks like an Eskimo or an Inuit. But what's so amazing is that while one could make an
00:37:22.380
argument that Santa Claus is virtually any race, however labored that argument is, Disney has picked
00:37:30.260
the only race that Santa Claus cannot be, which is a South Saharan, Sub-Saharan African.
00:37:37.440
It's very frustrating. Why have they done this? They have done this because they want to be inclusive
00:37:44.860
for something. But incoherence is not inclusive. There are many great figures in the history of
00:37:54.040
Christmas and certainly in the history of Christianity that are black.
00:38:01.220
Saint Moses the Black, for one. Do you ever hear of Saint Moses the Black?
00:38:06.520
He's a saint. He's a very great ancient saint. And he was so black that his name is the black.
00:38:13.480
And there is this kind of funny quirk of history, which is apparently he used to be a thief
00:38:17.420
before he converted. And he's like a great saint. He's a fabulous saint.
00:38:20.660
That would be one. And many, many others, many of the great bishops and cardinals who are alive
00:38:26.380
today, the great heroic giant figures of the church are not in Europe or America. Many of them,
00:38:33.240
some of the most notable are in Africa and are very, very black. But Santa Claus is not black.
00:38:40.420
And the idea that making Santa Claus black will somehow be inclusive is silly in itself because
00:38:46.940
incoherence is not inclusive. This is a key point. Incoherence is not inclusive.
00:38:55.780
Because what allows us to be inclusive at all, what allows us to exist in community at all,
00:39:01.480
to communicate with one another, is the fact that there is an objective reality that corresponds with
00:39:08.340
our reason, that allows us to use logic to come to certain conclusions that are objective and
00:39:14.000
therefore communicable to other people through signs and symbols that we all agree upon.
00:39:18.100
I hate to be so, I actually love to be so pedantic. This is a very important point.
00:39:22.680
There has to be an objective reality. What is inclusive is truth. What is inclusive is logic.
00:39:30.980
What is inclusive is objective reality. Because all of us, in as much as we are rational creatures,
00:39:37.800
When, however, we deny reality, be it through the transgender ideology, be it through some radical
00:39:44.120
racial ideologies, what have you, on the left or on the right, when we engage in the incoherent,
00:39:50.260
we cease to be inclusive. We fall into the realms of subjective fantasy that are not communicable to
00:39:58.100
other people and that have us all grunting like baboons. Santa Claus is white. Have I said that,
00:40:04.800
have I made that clear enough? Okay. Speaking of the North Pole, speaking of, I should say,
00:40:10.700
materially abundant resorts in the middle of nowhere, we turn from the North Pole to Little
00:40:16.880
St. James Island. There's been a release of the Epstein files. The Epstein, you know, what are the
00:40:23.240
Epstein, what are the Epstein files even? All the files that come from the grand juries,
00:40:28.660
that come from investigations, that have remained heretofore locked up by the government.
00:40:34.800
These are files that go back to 2007, when Epstein was arrested for weird sex stuff the first time.
00:40:43.140
The Epstein scandal didn't become a major national issue until about 2014 or so,
00:40:48.100
more on that in a moment. Then it started to hit in 2016, then it went away for a little bit,
00:40:53.300
then Epstein supposedly killed himself or didn't kill himself, and then now it's sort of an issue again.
00:40:58.400
When we talk about the Epstein files, the idea that there are smoking gun documents that say,
00:41:07.860
you know, so-and-so did this or that, so-and-so was working for this zillionaire or this government
00:41:13.320
or this whatever, something that's really, really explicit. The idea that such a document would survive
00:41:19.220
for, what are we at now, 18 years of scrutiny and shenanigans and chicanery is absurd.
00:41:27.860
I've said this from the beginning. Either Epstein is who he says he is, just a rich guy with a lot
00:41:33.300
of powerful friends who's a sex freak, and that's it. Or we will never know the full story about Epstein.
00:41:38.280
And anyone who's telling you otherwise is lying to you to get clicks because that's the cold hard
00:41:44.540
political fact of it. But there are a lot of pictures. And the government has now released
00:41:49.880
some of these pictures. And there's a lot of pictures of Bill Clinton, a lot of pictures of
00:41:56.420
Bubba out there. One in particular where it's Bubba next to some chicky, hands behind his head,
00:42:02.980
chest bear lying in a hot tub. Hey there, honey. Wow. I'm glad I'm not president anymore.
00:42:08.280
Uh, uh, uh, uh. Do we have the picture of Noam Chomsky by any chance? This one's amazing. Noam
00:42:14.600
Chomsky, one of the most preening leftists. I think he's still alive. I actually didn't realize
00:42:18.720
he was still alive, but I Googled it. He's still alive. He's 100 years old almost. And Noam Chomsky,
00:42:24.800
he was actually quite a good linguist, but he's just an awful preening leftist politically.
00:42:29.100
Holier than thou, more moral than everybody. This is a picture of him on Epstein's jet. He spends his
00:42:34.480
whole career talking about how we need to tear down the privileged and the elite and these dodgy
00:42:40.340
people who work with all the politicians to control the world. And then there he is on the Epstein sex
00:42:44.580
plane, just like, Hey Jeff, pass another glass of Dom Perignon, please. But, but most of the pictures
00:42:50.200
that we're seeing are of Bill Clinton. And it's not, it's not Bill Clinton standing next to Epstein at a
00:42:56.800
party. That's the famous picture of Donald Trump that the left is trying to use to say Trump is
00:43:00.500
seriously implicated in Epstein. It's Bill Clinton with women scantily clad swimming next to him in
00:43:06.840
a hot tub. It's Clinton with young looking ladies sitting on the armrest of his chair on his lap on
00:43:12.580
an airplane. It's Clinton looking compromised. Okay. Brilliant politics in this release. Why?
00:43:22.020
I'll tell you why. Clinton standing next to Kevin Spacey. That one's a little weird. I'll tell you why.
00:43:25.940
It's a brilliant, a brilliant little scandal. Where is it? Where is it? Here we go. FT Financial
00:43:30.300
Times. How Bill Clinton became the focus of the Epstein files. How Bill Clinton's subheader,
00:43:38.680
tranche of documents released by DOJ shifted the spotlight onto the former president.
00:43:43.540
Shifted the spotlight. How Bill Clinton became the focus of the Epstein files.
00:43:49.760
How short people's memories are. When the Epstein scandal first came to public attention around 2014,
00:43:55.940
it was a Clinton scandal. It was a Democrat scandal. It's not that there weren't Republicans
00:44:03.200
around Epstein sometimes, but the vast majority were very prominent Democrats. And the most
00:44:08.820
prominent was Bill Clinton, who's in zillions of these photos. Bill Clinton, who is a well-known sex
00:44:16.640
freak. How Bill Clinton became the focus. It's not that he became the focus.
00:44:21.940
He was the focus. And then Democrats, weakly, I believe, tried to make Trump the focus of the
00:44:30.080
Epstein files. And then Trump wisely just released the documents. And those facts made Bill Clinton
00:44:37.460
the focus again. It refocused Epstein onto what it was always about, which was chiefly,
00:44:45.100
though not exclusively, a Democrat scandal. What the release does is it gives the people what
00:44:52.320
they're demanding. Release the files. Okay. But I've got pretty decent sources, including liberals,
00:44:58.160
who say that Trump, though he's mentioned, he was friends with Epstein for a while,
00:45:03.480
though he's mentioned in the files, he's not seriously implicated anywhere.
00:45:06.700
And yet, I'm not sure the same can be said of the prominent Democrats. So then Trump comes out,
00:45:12.160
he says, all right, you want me to release the files? I'll release the files.
00:45:15.220
Hey, wait a second, you're shifting the focus onto Bill Clinton.
00:45:18.860
Yeah, that's where it was before you guys tried to shift it. Okay. Speaking of weird sex stuff,
00:45:23.040
there's a story I want to get to, but I'm running late. This is in the Wall Street Journal
00:45:26.660
about how a throuple had to redecorate a house. And the throuple, this is three men who are in some
00:45:32.780
kind of bizarre, deviant relationship together. How they wanted to decorate a house, but what do
00:45:37.860
you know, they all had different tastes in home decor. And it's really just a horrifying, horrifying,
00:45:45.740
horrifying story that we'll have to get to tomorrow. Also, Fulton County just admitted that 315,000 votes
00:45:52.980
in 2020 lacked poll workers' signatures. Some of us raised questions about the integrity of that
00:46:00.640
election in 2020, and other people on the left and on the right. Even the people preening on the
00:46:07.080
principled, supposed people on the right said, no, the election was totally fair. And yet,
00:46:12.860
looks like we were right again. Okay, we'll get to all of that, I guess, tomorrow. The rest of the
00:46:16.960
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00:46:30.640
What was it like, Merlin, to be alone with God?
00:46:49.500
Meriton, I knew your father. I am yet convinced that he was not of this world.
00:46:54.340
All men know of the great Taliesin. You are my father, that the gods should war for my soul.
00:47:10.360
I know what the bull god offered you. I was offered the same.
00:47:16.380
There is a new power at work in the world. I've seen it.
00:47:38.660
Trust in Yazoo. He is the only hope for men like us.
00:47:42.960
Vader Britain never rests in the hands of the great light.
00:48:03.540
How many lives must be lost before you accept the power you were born to wield?
00:48:11.320
Circling to the promises of a god who has abandoned you.