The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1888 - Gang Members GET SHOT Trying To Run Over ICE Agent

00:00:00.000 New liberal narrative update just dropped. I don't want you to miss this one. It's gotten a

00:00:04.740 little confusing. It's moving fast. So here's a timeline. As we all know, the initial narrative

00:00:10.420 around the officer involved shooting in Minneapolis was that ICE agents murdered a peaceful, innocent

00:00:17.480 mom by shooting her through her driver's side window while she sat in her car minding her own 1.00

00:00:25.000 business. Then after video footage contradicted all of that, the narrative changed to still pretty

00:00:33.680 close. ICE agents murdering a peaceful, innocent mom while she was driving away from them. She wasn't

00:00:40.780 just sitting in the car minding her own business, but she was driving, but she was driving away from

00:00:44.060 them. Then after video footage contradicted that narrative, the narrative changed to ICE agents

00:00:51.420 murdering the peaceful, innocent mom while she might have been driving toward the cop. So, okay,

00:00:58.020 maybe she wasn't driving away. Maybe she was driving toward the cop, but she didn't actually hit him.

00:01:02.700 So they had no right to shoot. She would have stopped. She would have turned before she hit him.

00:01:07.100 So now that narrative has been contradicted by yet more video. And the liberal mayor of Minneapolis

00:01:18.280 has just given us the latest narrative, which is sure, she hit the officer with her car,

00:01:24.160 but only a little bit. She was peaceful. She was sitting there. She was doing nothing. She was

00:01:28.680 minding her own business, too. She was driving away, too. She was driving at him, but she wasn't

00:01:33.300 going to hit him, too. Okay, she hit him, but only a little bit. It was only a slight attempted vehicular

00:01:38.260 manslaughter and definitely not enough to justify his defending himself. We will get to the latest on

00:01:44.880 the story and to the excellent way that ICE is responding. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael

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00:03:37.600 Don't take my word for it on the media. Here you have it straight from the horse's mouth.

00:03:42.200 Probably actually a different part of the horse. Actually, it's probably a different animal

00:03:46.840 altogether. One of those animals from Tatooine or the Huttese Village or one of the Ooga Booga 1.00

00:03:53.960 Star Wars people. In any case, in English, here is Jacob Fry.

00:03:56.880 Don't take my word for it. Don't take their word for it. Watch the video from every single angle.

00:04:05.280 I mean, the ICE agent walked away with a hip injury that he might as well have gotten from

00:04:13.420 closing a refrigerator door with his hips. He was not injured. I've seen worse injuries from doing that.

00:04:20.980 And so give me a break. No, he was not ran over. He walked out of there with a hop in his step.

00:04:31.560 And so we just got to get to the point where we're at least operating from, hey, this is like

00:04:37.160 we're looking at it on the video screen. This is what we're seeing. Can we all see that it wasn't

00:04:40.640 all over? And then, you know, yeah, J.D. fans, this concept of absolute immunity is pretty bizarre.

00:04:49.020 What man closes a refrigerator with his hip? I know that's a tangential point.

00:04:55.040 Does any man, I know women do that. You know, they're in the kitchen. They got the kid in their 1.00

00:04:58.960 arm. They're stirring the pasta sauce. They do a little boop. Just a little boop. Hit that refrigerator. 0.99

00:05:03.640 Has a man, has a heterosexual man ever one time in his life closed a refrigerator with his hip?

00:05:10.660 It's a minor, a relatively minor point for Jacob Fry, not beating any of the many allegations against

00:05:16.200 him. But then let's get to the narrative. I was reliably informed by the whole media,

00:05:23.280 by all the politicians, by all the Democrats that this woman did not even come close to hitting the 0.99

00:05:31.760 officer. Initially, she was just sitting in her car and then she was driving away and then she

00:05:38.220 wasn't going to hit him and she wasn't trying to hit him and she wasn't here close to hitting him. And

00:05:41.640 now, yeah, whatever. He got a little hip injury. She hit him with a car. She hit him.

00:05:51.840 Oh, you just got to in a world after virtue, in a world after orderly society, you have to explain

00:05:58.780 everything. Listen close. I'm going to pull the microphone closer to me. Jacob Fry, if you're

00:06:03.280 listening, Democrats, if you're listening, crazy white women who are going to get yourselves killed 1.00

00:06:07.300 if you keep acting the way you are. Listen to me. Tune in. Listen to me. You can't hit police officers 1.00

00:06:14.580 with your car ever under. Even if it's just a little tap on the hip, you can't hit anybody with

00:06:20.620 your car. But especially and I want you to write this down. You cannot hit a police officer with your

00:06:27.620 car or you're going to get shot in the face and you're going to deserve it. And this guy, this

00:06:32.260 lunatic, Jacob Fry, we can chalk it up to he doesn't have a great grasp on the English language. 0.95

00:06:38.380 If he were speaking cluckaluckal hoo-ha on solo, maybe he would have made more sense. But in English, 0.72

00:06:43.720 he's not making any sense. She only hit him a little bit. Let me please show me the statute

00:06:48.120 that says you're allowed to run into a cop with your car, federal law enforcement officer with your car,

00:06:53.060 but only if you only hit him on the hip a little bit. Then he has no right to defend himself.

00:07:00.240 Why is Jacob Fry admitting this? He's admitting this because there's video everywhere. This is why

00:07:07.380 we're very thankful to body camera footage. We'll get actually to some of the video from the officer's

00:07:12.140 body in a moment. This is why the libs demanded. They said we want body cams on all the cops because 1.00

00:07:17.360 they concocted and peddled and then came to believe themselves this ridiculous narrative that the 0.98

00:07:22.780 cops are out there looking for all the marginalized people and especially black people. But I guess 0.99

00:07:27.000 also like crazy liberal white ladies as well. They're just trying to slaughter them. They're 1.00

00:07:30.860 just looking to kill them all day long. That's why we need to get body cameras on the cops. And 1.00

00:07:34.480 that's going to that's going to protect these innocent, marginalized criminals. And then guess

00:07:38.400 what happened? You put the body cameras on the cops and you find that the cops are in the right

00:07:41.980 99.99999% of the time. And it turns out that the criminals are bad and it doesn't look good.

00:07:48.740 The footage doesn't look good for them. Just want to before I put a little fine point

00:07:53.080 on it. Don't want to beat that dead horse, that dead horse's derriere, Mr. Fry over here. But 0.83

00:07:58.660 Margaret Brennan on CBS News interviewing Ilhan Omar. This is the framing of the shooting.

00:08:06.540 It was blocking the road. They are claiming this is an act of terrorism.

00:08:10.720 Yeah, Renee Nicole Good, as you hear her say, she's not mad. She's sitting in her car, 0.75

00:08:16.840 peacefully waving cars to get by. This agent, as you see, gets out of his car,

00:08:24.220 automatically starts running towards her, trying to open her door. She feels scared. She tries

00:08:30.840 to turn the wheel away. And then you see the other officer who can clearly see the car is moving,

00:08:37.040 move towards the front of the car, which if they are saying that he has 10 years on service and is

00:08:45.500 trained, he should know that you shouldn't be trying to get in front of a moving car.

00:08:51.100 And so it is not acceptable for Kristi Noem and the president and the vice president to make these

00:08:59.620 kind of judgments without there being a full investigation. Even though we can see in the

00:09:05.960 videos that have been produced so far that what they are describing is really not what is taking place.

00:09:11.880 And so if they're saying that we shouldn't believe our eyes-

00:09:15.220 Okay, I can't take any more of it.

00:09:16.480 Let the investigation-

00:09:17.080 I can't take any more. And there's Margaret Brennan. Yes. Wow. Yes.

00:09:20.920 Essentially, nothing that Ilhan Omar just said is true. But even just the original framing,

00:09:25.140 she's peacefully sitting in her car, minding her own business. She is obstructing law enforcement. 0.58

00:09:31.860 This woman, everything we know, none of this is controvertible. This woman trained to disrupt 1.00

00:09:38.340 ICE, federal law enforcement, federal law enforcement, which was there to arrest the

00:09:42.700 gang-affiliated, because you had to deal with the cartels to get across the border. Basically,

00:09:48.180 all of them are gang-affiliated to some degree or another. These criminals who are in Minneapolis,

00:09:54.620 ICE is there to arrest them. She trains to obstruct federal law enforcement. She's blocking traffic, 0.95

00:10:00.580 which is a dysfunctional act, which you're not allowed to do, which is very, very dangerous.

00:10:03.880 And then she's not just minding her own business. She's driving into a cop. The cop is in front of

00:10:10.200 the car before she's driving. It's not like he leaps in front of the car. We can see this in part

00:10:15.580 because we have video, but also in part because the bullet goes through the front windshield.

00:10:20.140 Then she doesn't turn her wheel and then drive away. She hits the gas. The tires start spinning

00:10:25.920 directly into the cop. And then finally, she turns her tire, but a little too late because she hit 0.98

00:10:31.360 the cop, which we know even Jacob Fry is admitting. None of this is really in dispute.

00:10:38.840 And there's Margaret Brennan in CBS News, and she's just nodding along. Yes, yes, yes. Wow,

00:10:43.440 you're so right. Yes, wow. We have more footage. Here is more camera footage totally vindicating the ICE agent.

00:10:51.900 So you see the agent walking in front of the car. Here she is.

00:11:10.260 I'm not mad at you, boy. Show your face. I'm not mad at you.

00:11:13.580 It's okay. We don't change our plates every morning, just so you know. It'll be the same plate when you

00:11:18.420 come talk to us later. That's fine. U.S. citizen, former...

00:11:21.980 You want to come at us? You want to come at us? I say go get yourself some lunch, big boy.

00:11:28.300 Go ahead. Out of the car. Get out of the car. Get out of the car.

00:11:33.280 Get out of the car.

00:11:34.180 Oh! 0.60

00:11:37.900 So there you have it. First of all, we now have the footage, whether it was a body cam,

00:11:45.940 whether it was a cell phone camera, whatever it was. We have the footage from the agent. He is hit

00:11:49.380 by the car. You can see that. But what... Look, the only people who have a blind disregard for the

00:11:56.520 truth or who don't consume any reputable news sources at this point don't understand that.

00:12:00.800 What's more interesting about this footage is this woman gets out there. She goes, 1.00

00:12:06.380 I'm not even mad. The way this is being portrayed in the media is, I'm not mad. I love you. I love

00:12:10.500 everyone. And then that ICE agent comes in. He says, you F and B-I-T-C-H. That's how it's being

00:12:16.200 portrayed. That's probably what you're seeing on Instagram and Facebook from your liberal

00:12:18.920 colleagues who don't know any better. Really what she's doing is she is obstructing law 1.00

00:12:22.760 enforcement. She goes, I'm not even mad. I'm not even mad. She's being very provocative. 0.99

00:12:28.760 But the lesbian partner is on the scene. This woman's a lesbian. She has children, 0.94

00:12:33.360 but she's a lesbian, whatever. Not even going to get into it. This lesbian partner comes out and 1.00

00:12:38.040 she's getting in the cop's face. And she's saying, yeah, this could be a same license plate when you 0.89

00:12:42.400 come back later. We're not moving. We're going to keep obstructing law enforcement. Yeah, you big

00:12:46.040 boy, go get a lunch, fatso. That's what she's saying to this guy. And then crucially, she turns to her 0.69

00:12:51.180 lesbian partner, these people who have trained to obstruct law enforcement, and she says, drive, baby, 1.00

00:12:57.040 drive. That's the key. Four words, actually. Drive, baby, drive, drive. That's the key to this.

00:13:05.920 The person who is most responsible for this woman's death is the woman herself. She drove 1.00

00:13:12.840 into a cop. When you drive into cops, generally speaking, you can expect to be shot in the face. 0.75

00:13:19.120 The person who is second most responsible for this woman's death is her lesbian partner. 1.00

00:13:25.420 She's the one who gave her the order. She's the one who put it in her mind to drive into the cop.

00:13:31.060 Drive, baby, drive, drive.

00:13:32.420 The group that is next most responsible for this woman's death are the Democrat thought leaders,

00:13:40.820 such as they are, the Democrat politicians, the Democrat elected officials who have allowed this

00:13:47.280 kind of anarchy to go on and on and on. The mayor of Minneapolis, the governor of Minneapolis,

00:13:51.540 and the Democrats going back years, certainly all the way back to BLM, who have encouraged this kind 0.65

00:13:55.440 of anarchy because it created the false expectation in these women's minds that they could get away with 1.00

00:13:59.940 driving into cops. And they can when you have a responsible government in town, as you do at

00:14:03.860 the federal level with President Trump. But all of these layers of scandal had to exist.

00:14:11.500 Had that lesbian not gone in there and told her paramour, drive, baby, drive, that woman probably 1.00

00:14:16.960 wouldn't have driven. That's what we're talking about. And when we talk about how to rectify this, 0.98

00:14:24.520 this kind of information is crucial because it's not just about individual actions.

00:14:30.600 What it's about is a political solution. What it's about is the kind of society and culture

00:14:37.580 that breeds good behavior and that encourages good behavior. You had to have a lot of things go wrong

00:14:44.580 here for this woman to get killed. And they all went wrong. And this is why, forget about the people

00:14:50.200 on the left, even the more individualist types on the right, need to get it into their heads

00:14:54.640 that the only way to rectify these problems is with a political social solution based on standards,

00:15:01.480 based on norms, based on expectations, based on habituation, based on behavior, which we're

00:15:05.720 going to get to in one second because ICE has done a great job of resetting our expectations.

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00:16:18.600 for warranty details. So, we now have more of these incidents taking place. More criminals are

00:16:27.900 trying to run over DHS agents. If we turn to Portland right now, you have two criminals who tried

00:16:34.580 to run over DHS agents, ICE agents, who were then shot. You're not hearing quite as much about this

00:16:39.680 story. And the reason for that is that in this case, it wasn't just some like white lady,

00:16:44.280 white lesbian, you know, activist type. It was a Trendy Aragua gangster. So, the two people who 1.00

00:16:49.480 tried to run over the cop were a gangster and his prostitute, both of whom are involved in this ring,

00:16:54.600 both of whom have ties to Trendy Aragua, allegedly. Here we have, this is just a local news report,

00:17:00.640 K-A-T-U. Two shot by border agent in Portland have Trendy Aragua ties, DHS and police say.

00:17:07.720 The case is as clear as can be. There's another example of the body camera or just more facts

00:17:15.720 coming out, vindicating law enforcement, totally upending the liberal narrative, as has even

00:17:21.200 happened in Minneapolis and has happened constantly. Going back to Michael Brown, going back to all of

00:17:25.960 these stories that the left tries to gin up against cops. Well, here you have, as clear a case could

00:17:31.720 be, illegals associated with a particularly violent Venezuelan gang running a human trafficking ring,

00:17:38.200 trying to run over cops who were then shot. They weren't even killed, but they were stopped.

00:17:45.160 Okay, police chief in Portland, Bob Day, what is your take on law enforcement stopping the

00:17:52.020 Latin American gangsters from running them over? And what I can say is there is an association 0.74

00:17:59.560 with the two folks yesterday and TDA. TDA, Trendy Aragua. I hesitated to even share this information

00:18:07.740 initially because I'm very aware of the historic injustice of victim blaming, oftentimes portrayed

00:18:17.880 by law enforcement, including this very agency that I've represented so proudly for so many years.

00:18:22.920 For just a moment, specifically to my Latino community.

00:18:31.080 Is he about to cry?

00:18:35.160 It saddens me that we even have to qualify these remarks because I understand, or at least have

00:18:46.840 attempted to understand through your voices, your concern, your fear, your anger.

00:18:55.160 This information in no way is meant to keep to all, he takes out a hank, he wipes the steers.

00:19:04.160 Or to condone or support or agree with any of the actions that occurred yesterday.

00:19:09.760 What actions occurred yesterday? The actions that occurred yesterday in this clip are that

00:19:16.080 Venezuelan gangsters associated with a foreign terrorist organization tried to run over a cop

00:19:23.640 and he shot them. He goes, I don't want it to seem, I, the chief of police, I don't want it to seem

00:19:32.020 like I condone law enforcement officers defending themselves when foreign terrorists try to run them

00:19:39.480 over. I don't condone that. I don't agree with that, okay? Won't somebody please think of the

00:19:47.040 Venezuelan pimps? I know everyone, I don't even, I hesitate even to say, I don't want to victim,

00:19:55.340 but the victim in this case being a Venezuelan pimp terrorists who were trying to run over a cop

00:19:59.860 in America. I don't, I'm not saying I condone that. I don't condone the self-defense. You don't

00:20:07.920 condone it? You should, you need to resign. You don't condone it. You don't condone federal law

00:20:13.700 enforcement protecting itself against a terrorist trying to run them over? A pimp Venezuelan illegal 0.94

00:20:19.960 terrorist trying to run them over? You don't condone that? Well, then you need to resign because your 0.98

00:20:24.720 judgment is severely impaired. This guy crying, crying, I was going to say crying like a woman. 1.00

00:20:33.060 He's not crying like a woman. Any, well, I don't care. The most sensitive little woman with even 1.00

00:20:39.540 an, and the most opposed to violence, dainty little gal who has even a modicum of common sense would not 1.00

00:20:47.260 be crying in this situation. If you, if one were to cry in this situation, one would cry that the poor

00:20:52.600 law enforcement officer was almost run over by these animals, but no, he cries for the animals.

00:20:58.220 Okay. What are we going to do about this? Well, there's video going viral. We actually can't use

00:21:03.000 it. I think there's some kind of copyright issue with the video, but it's a beautiful video. It's a

00:21:07.440 beautiful video of some little red liberal car, like a Prius or something parked in the middle of

00:21:13.380 the street, obstructing law enforcement, trying to stop the ICE raids. And in this case, the ICE agents

00:21:18.460 walk up, the guys won't get out. They won't, they won't move their car. So they smash in the windows

00:21:25.460 of the car. They open up the doors and they drag these people out and they arrest them. And then

00:21:29.820 one of the officers gets into the car and parks it and gets it out of the street. That's what you

00:21:35.100 have to do. That's, and it feels good, especially for those of us who want to see criminals brought

00:21:40.260 to justice. It feels really good to see the police do their jobs, have the political cover to do their

00:21:44.720 jobs, smash out those windows, drag these people who are obstructing law enforcement, which is a 1.00

00:21:48.740 crime, arrest them, get the car out of the way, keep on and carry on. If that feels good, we like

00:21:53.920 that. We recognize that that not only feels good as a matter of kind of visceral, I don't know,

00:21:58.940 it gives us butterflies in our stomach, but it's also good because it advances the cause of justice.

00:22:02.780 But I'd like to add one third good that comes from this. That is the only way to avoid dead

00:22:09.580 leftist agitators. The only way to avoid dead leftist agitators like that lady in Minneapolis, 1.00

00:22:15.800 or I guess even if you're, if you're going to blubber like the chief of the Portland police for the 0.94

00:22:20.480 Trendy Aragut pimps and prostitutes, I guess you can, you can worry about them too. The way to avoid 0.68

00:22:26.460 those people dying is for federal law enforcement to vigorously enforce the law. Because if they don't,

00:22:35.920 one of two things is going to happen. Either these, these people are going to run amok and

00:22:41.020 then you're going to get rioting and then you're going to get a lot of dead agitators as happened

00:22:44.420 during BLM. When the politicians told the cops to stand down and BLM burned cities down across the

00:22:50.000 country and then you had dozens of people killed. Probably many of those people sympathetic to BLM,

00:22:55.220 but they just got caught up in the mob violence. So either that's going to happen,

00:22:58.420 you can get more dead leftist agitators, or cops are not going to allow themselves to be run over, 0.96

00:23:03.620 whether it be by agitators, white ladies in Minneapolis or by foreign gangsters, 0.99

00:23:09.220 but they're not going to let themselves be run over and they're going to shoot them in the face. 0.99

00:23:12.460 And you're going to get more dead agitators. Either way though, those are the only two options. 0.98

00:23:16.120 If you want fewer dead agitators, which I would like to do, I don't celebrate that that lady in 1.00

00:23:20.260 Minneapolis died. I don't even really celebrate when Trendy Aragut people are mowed down. I'd like 1.00

00:23:25.280 for them to reform and it's a fallen world. Sometimes you just got to shoot them, but I'd like for them 0.99

00:23:30.020 to repent and lead flourishing lives. In any case, if you want those people not to take a bullet to 0.98

00:23:36.280 the head, you need the law to be enforced. You need to smash some windows in some Priuses and move

00:23:43.360 those cars out of the street and let law enforcement do their job. Okay. Speaking of enforcing the law,

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00:25:01.020 Pure Talk, America's wireless company. Trump goes into Venezuela. It's beautiful.

00:25:07.060 All of a sudden, the rest of the world takes note. Trump is serious about not letting drugs

00:25:14.460 enter into our country. And even beyond that, President Trump is serious about kicking foreign 1.00

00:25:18.800 adversaries out of our hemisphere. And even beyond that, President Trump is serious about

00:25:22.380 stopping the flow of migrants at the source, which is kind of funny. It occurs to me now,

00:25:27.460 that's something Kamala Harris said. She said, well, I'm going to go to Latin America. I'm going to go to

00:25:30.420 places like Venezuela. And I'm going to get to the root cause of migration. Well, she didn't do that,

00:25:34.760 obviously. Millions of people came in every year under the Biden-Harris administration.

00:25:38.500 Trump did just stop the root cause of migration. He went in. He said, oh,

00:25:41.900 the situation in Venezuela is so bad that people keep flooding to America. Okay. Not only am I 1.00

00:25:46.160 going to close the border, I'm also going to go there and take out the root cause, namely

00:25:49.460 Nicolas Maduro. So he does that. And now, all of a sudden, the leader of Colombia, which sends a lot

00:25:55.220 of drugs to the US, he calls. He says, hey, hey, ese, hey, hombre, amigo, let's make a deal, man.

00:26:01.500 I know I said all those things, man, but let's be cool, man. Please don't bomb me.

00:26:06.040 And even in Mexico, President Trump is now threatening this action.

00:26:12.600 We've knocked out 97% of the drugs coming in by water. And we are going to start now hitting land

00:26:19.960 with regard to the cartels. The cartels are running Mexico. It's very, very sad to watch and see what's

00:26:27.840 happened to that country. But the cartels are running and they're killing 250, 300,000 people

00:26:33.520 in our country every single year. The drugs, it's horrible. It's devastated families. You know,

00:26:38.800 you lose a child or a parent. I mean, parents are dying, too, with drugs. So we've done a really good

00:26:44.640 job. We're knocking it down. The numbers are really getting to be, they're always going to be too high

00:26:50.340 if you have one person. But they're going down just like the border. The border was a total mess for

00:26:55.700 years. I did it the first time very quickly. And this time I did it even better because this was a

00:27:01.760 bigger mess. This was a border like no other probably in the history of the world. There's

00:27:05.700 never been a border like that when anybody could just walk into your country. The border's ostensibly

00:27:09.820 really closed now. It's closed. It can't come in. And nobody comes. Nobody even tries.

00:27:15.000 You like how Trump slips that in there to the point that even even Sean, I think, is he doesn't quite

00:27:21.400 hear exactly what Trump is saying. And John's a very good interviewer. And Trump says, yeah,

00:27:26.280 we're doing this. We're doing that. We're doing this. Also, we might do land strikes in Mexico.

00:27:29.040 And we're doing this and that and this. And you say, wait, hold on, what did you say?

00:27:31.480 I said, we're doing this. No, no, after that. Oh, we're doing that. No, no, no. What would you say

00:27:34.700 in the middle? Oh, we're going to bomb Mexico. Oh. And this is pretty brilliant. Even take out 0.98

00:27:43.060 what it will mean for migration or drugs or the economy. Just as a matter of political

00:27:48.720 coalitions. This is brilliant. And this is something that I think Trump showed us in

00:27:52.660 Venezuela. What was so notable from a domestic intra-right coalitional view of the hit on

00:28:01.780 Venezuela is it managed to unite disparate factions of the American right. The neocons loved it

00:28:09.680 because the hit on Venezuela weakened Iran, Hezbollah, and Russia and advanced America's

00:28:15.660 geopolitical position. But even the paleos generally loved it because it was very much

00:28:21.880 in keeping with traditional American foreign policy going back over 200 years to the Monroe

00:28:25.420 doctrine. It focused on stopping drugs. It focused on stopping the migrants coming across our border, 0.99

00:28:31.920 issues that are near and dear to the people who want to focus more on the American home front,

00:28:36.040 the America first nationalist types. Same thing here. Same thing here. President Trump

00:28:42.800 used the military to hit Mexico. This is something I heard from right-wing critics of the Iraq war and

00:28:47.900 the Afghanistan war. They say, we're going to use the military. Why don't we use a closer 1.00

00:28:51.300 home? We got these cartels on our border sending people across human trafficking, sending drugs,

00:28:55.280 killing 75,000 Americans a year because of fentanyl. We're going to use the military. Why are we sending

00:28:58.780 them to Iraq and Libya and Syria and Afghanistan? Why don't we send them down to Mexico? That's what we 1.00

00:29:03.720 need to do. And Trump says, okay. And he seems to synthesize two antitheses. You have, let's get a

00:29:14.380 little Hegelian for a second. You have the thesis of the last 25 years, which is the neocons,

00:29:20.240 liberal imperialists, liberal lowercase l, meaning they want to go and spread Madisonian democracy and

00:29:27.440 Lockean liberalism all around the world. And we're going to plant it in the villages of Afghanistan. 0.98

00:29:31.500 And the sheer weight of John Locke's second treatise of government will totally extirpate

00:29:38.360 their desires for bakabazi and all sorts of backwards and really unpleasant tribal behavior. 0.94

00:29:45.100 Yes, we're going to create little pillars of democracy like 18th century America all over

00:29:52.180 the world. It didn't happen. That's the thesis. Then the antithesis of the paleocons who say,

00:29:57.540 we need to be conservative nationalists. We're not going to be liberal imperialists. We're going

00:30:02.620 to be conservative nationalists. And we're going to focus on America first and on our domestic

00:30:06.700 problems. And Trump is neither of those things. Trump is a conservative imperialist. That's clearly

00:30:16.020 what's going on here. He takes the imperialism a little bit from the neocons, but he takes the

00:30:22.520 the groundedness, the pragmatism, the realism from the paleocons. He's a conservative imperialist,

00:30:28.260 which if you've been listening to this show for any period of time, certainly if you've been

00:30:32.680 listening to it for many years, you will know how much I hate to say I told you so. I've called this

00:30:36.480 from the beginning. I said, Trump is not a Bush, Bushy neocon, but likewise, he is not a pure

00:30:43.920 non-interventionist, isolationist. That's not what he means by America first. What he means by

00:30:50.820 America first is not even really nationalist. It's imperialist, but it's imperialism based on

00:30:57.380 real interests. It's imperialism, in other words, based on a conservative view of politics,

00:31:04.660 of a defense of the nation. But it's not just turning inward and looking within our own borders.

00:31:09.460 It's bombing Venezuela, dropping the Moab, going into Greenland, taking Greenland, 1.00

00:31:16.120 joking around, maybe not quite joking around about taking Canada,

00:31:19.700 cheering on regimes falling in Cuba and extending our sphere of influence.

00:31:23.260 That's what he's talking about. And that view, I think, is where a lot of Americans are.

00:31:27.360 We want to be strong. We want to enjoy the privileges that come around with global leadership,

00:31:31.540 but we don't want to be taken off to ideological abstract flights of fancy,

00:31:35.460 such that we get bogged down in quagmires in very distant, very foreign cultures,

00:31:40.200 where our thin liberal ideas, the formalized abridgment of the supposed substratum of what

00:31:47.100 we think makes up the American way of life, it's just not going to take hold there.

00:31:50.780 This is this beautiful meeting of it. Works very, very well, and it's perfectly natural.

00:31:55.980 We have been wielding power in Mexico for a very long time. A lot of America used to be Mexico.

00:32:04.780 Okay, this is natural. This is very traditional. And as Latin America changes, as you see this

00:32:10.400 cascading effects of Venezuela, the next regime that could fall is Cuba. Cuba ostensibly has like

00:32:15.720 four days of oil left. They just got the oil cut off. They were already in a major crisis.

00:32:20.480 The Castro's are dead. Who's the president of Cuba right now? Nobody even really knows. It was Fidel

00:32:25.040 forever, and then it was his brother Raul, but he was old, and then he left, and then it's like

00:32:28.820 some other guy. And the regime is very shaky. Russia's not really supporting Cuba anymore because

00:32:33.400 Russia's busy in Ukraine. China has come in to help Cuba a little bit, but Cuba's really weak right

00:32:40.980 now. So who's going to be the next leader of Cuba? President Trump responding to a tweet that says

00:32:45.600 Marco Rubio will be president of Cuba. He responds and says, sounds good to me. And we on Michael

00:32:51.740 an old show. I actually have exclusive footage of Marco Rubio from inside the Oval Office. There he

00:32:56.620 is. There were signs. There he is on the yellow couch in the Oval Office. He's sitting next to

00:33:02.660 Vice President J.D. Vance, some other, but you see he's got the green military fatigues, that beard.

00:33:09.800 I hadn't even noticed the beard, the cat, the Fidel cap. And then of course, when he was smoking a

00:33:14.860 cigar in the Oval, there were signs that Trump had this planned. In any case, Iran is now also

00:33:20.900 on the brink. It's unclear because there's a near revolution or a color revolution in Iran every

00:33:26.980 six months, it seems. But this one does seem pretty hardcore. So there is a world in which

00:33:31.300 the Shah of Iran returns. The Shah of Iran, whose father was put into rule Iran by the United States 0.83

00:33:37.260 back when our imperial policy worked pretty well. It's unclear. Now, if the crown prince of Iran,

00:33:44.360 Riza Pallavi, if he's not up for the task, obviously, Rubio can keep the beard. He's going

00:33:49.360 to have to change his outfit a little bit. But the cascading effects of Trump's very effective

00:33:55.720 strike on Venezuela could reshape the world, could reshape the political order, and could

00:34:01.380 reshape 2026 and 2028. Way back on October 28th, we announced that Matt Fradd was joining the Daily

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00:34:35.720 Daily Wire Plus. My favorite comment you see. Now, I didn't pick the comment.

00:34:39.960 I want you to know I didn't pick the comment. They didn't even remind me to pick a comment

00:34:43.500 today. I guess they sent them over to me, but the producers picked the comment. So if this comment

00:34:46.920 is no good, it's their fault. It's from the Drummer's Workshop Norm's Music. I bet it'll be

00:34:51.340 great. It says, has the left blamed the spinning tires on climate change yet? Good question.

00:34:56.540 I don't know. Look, I don't know if that's really my, maybe I'll look at the comments later.

00:35:02.420 There's been a major endorsement in the 2028 presidential race. I know we're early,

00:35:06.140 but first of all, presidential races last for years now. And two, we're in this weird situation

00:35:10.400 in which President Trump has had a non-consecutive second term, which is why I've mentioned before

00:35:14.940 this is going to be a different kind of primary if there even is a primary. Well, anyway, one of the

00:35:20.240 potential presidential contenders, Glenn Youngkin, very successful governor of a blue Commonwealth,

00:35:27.580 Virginia, who was able to do a pretty good job there, could definitely bring in a little bit more 1.00

00:35:31.660 of the moderate vote, maybe could pull in some suburban women, what have you. This guy who could have 1.00

00:35:37.320 been a contender just made a different endorsement.

00:35:43.860 No, on a presidential run in the future, not ruling it out then.

00:35:48.940 Well, what I firmly believe, and I'll repeat it again, I agree with President Trump. I agree with

00:35:53.340 Marco Rubio. I think Vice President Vance would be a great nominee.

00:35:56.860 Had to try one more time.

00:35:58.280 There it is. Fox News Sunday, Glenn Youngkin, who is a presidential contender,

00:36:02.340 he says, yeah, I think J.D. Vance would be a great nominee. And notice how he endorses him.

00:36:09.220 He doesn't just say, I, Glenn Youngkin, independently think J.D. Vance, the Vice President,

00:36:12.700 would be a great nominee. He says, I'm with Trump and Rubio. Rubio, who is the number two guy who

00:36:21.420 could be the nominee in 2028. Rubio has already come out and said, I support Vance. I want Vance to

00:36:28.020 be the nominee. Trump, the guy who picked the cabinet and obviously picked J.D. Vance to be

00:36:34.080 his running mate. He came out, he said, yeah, I think Rubio should be Secretary of State forever.

00:36:38.300 And I think Vance, if Rubio is not gonna be Secretary of State forever, maybe Vance and

00:36:44.200 Rubio can run as a ticket. So he has not quite explicitly, but more or less crowned J.D. Vance

00:36:51.260 as his successor, which he was always going to do because it's a non-consecutive second term.

00:36:55.420 So the moment that Trump picked his VP, he was effectively picking the nominee for the next

00:37:01.620 time. Glenn Youngkin now coming around this as well, even the way he does it. It reminds me of

00:37:08.460 something, and I've tried to convey this in various media when the question has come up.

00:37:13.420 There is a lot of talk about a right-wing civil war. We hear this was dominating AmericaFest,

00:37:18.640 TPSA. You hear this on all of the podcasts. There's a right-wing civil war. You hear this,

00:37:23.140 especially in the liberal media. Not really. There isn't. There is one. There is a thing

00:37:29.860 happening, and we can call it the right-wing civil war. But the Youngkin endorsement of J.D. Vance

00:37:36.840 on the basis that Trump and Marco have already endorsed J.D. Vance reminds us that the so-called

00:37:43.340 right-wing civil war is entirely a podcasting phenomenon. And I find that very interesting

00:37:49.720 as a matter of politics, actually, that this division on the right is really just exclusively

00:37:56.240 in the domain of the chattering class. It's different podcasters attacking each other.

00:38:01.500 When it comes to actual policy, you don't see a ton of disagreement.

00:38:07.720 Do you? You see plenty of people cheering on Trump's policy in Venezuela. Even sort of famously or

00:38:14.560 infamously, Tucker was urging caution on Venezuela. But since the Venezuela strike,

00:38:20.740 I don't think Tucker has come out and attacked it. He was at the White House just the other day.

00:38:23.900 Even there, he would be the critic, the big critic of that policy. There's really no disagreement on

00:38:28.640 the policy. How about on the candidates? Everyone supports Trump. And then everyone basically supports

00:38:35.260 the vice president for 2028, including the people most likely to run against the vice president in

00:38:41.020 2028. They've already endorsed him. This is the silver lining of the right-wing civil war,

00:38:47.380 is there is, as a matter of policy and actual politicians who will affect the policy,

00:38:54.000 more unity in the Republican Party than I have probably ever seen in my entire lifetime.

00:38:59.640 That too, by the way, is a characteristic of this historic situation we're in, which is the

00:39:05.860 non-consecutive second term of Donald Trump, who's dominated American politics for a decade.

00:39:09.220 This is not to say that the things that the chattering class is attacking each other over

00:39:16.320 are not important, that they don't involve real moral issues, that they're not thought-provoking.

00:39:22.480 Often they're not, but I guess sometimes they are. There are disagreements to be had. However,

00:39:28.420 my strategy from the beginning is to say, I think that the incentives here are misaligned.

00:39:33.900 The incentives for podcasters, for influencers, for tweeters, for TikTokers is to just create a lot

00:39:41.840 of conflict and get more views. The incentive for people who want the conservatives to advance,

00:39:49.780 for the Republican Party to win as a part of that, for the country to do better, those incentives are

00:39:53.780 to have a unity, to minimize conflict, at least to minimize public conflict, to try to solve the

00:39:58.840 problems behind the scenes. We should be very open about what we think about issues, whether those

00:40:05.480 issues are about geopolitics, foreign policy, or murder mysteries. On all of those issues that

00:40:12.420 are supposedly within the purview of the right-wing civil war, I've been clear as day on my views on

00:40:16.680 every single one of them, and I encourage everyone to be clear as day. But I guess my point on the

00:40:20.800 right-wing civil war phenomenon is, I don't think it is helpful in any way, at least not helpful to the

00:40:27.280 common good of the country, for it to become all this kind of personal jabbing and attacking and

00:40:32.600 picking, you take this side and I take this side and we're in this faction and that. Because that is

00:40:36.540 divorced from the actual political question. It's a kind of a meta-political game. It's a meta-political

00:40:42.060 entertainment, but it's divorced from, if people had different candidates and were advancing different

00:40:48.020 policies, that would be a totally different story. But they're not. Glenn Youngkin just endorsed J.D.

00:40:54.660 Vance because, he says, Rubio and Trump did the same. And we're all excited about Venezuela, and we're

00:41:01.320 all excited about the immigration policy, and we're all excited about the tax policy, and we all

00:41:05.220 ostensibly agree on everything. Now, speaking of those policies, one more little, we have to get to

00:41:14.800 this. I'm old enough to remember when, back in 2015, 2016, all the real fancy conservative types,

00:41:22.540 they said, Trump is not a real conservative. And there was some reason to wonder about that back

00:41:26.520 then. Trump had been a Democrat. We didn't really know exactly what he thought. After the first term,

00:41:32.440 it's hard to say he's not a real conservative. After the interregnum, especially into this term,

00:41:36.040 it's very hard to say that. Well, President Trump, I think, I hope, has just put those claims to rest

00:41:42.620 forever when he declared an anti-usury jubilee. We are talking about Pentateuch levels of

00:41:52.580 conservatism here, but we're not just talking about 1776. We're talking like books of Moses

00:41:58.340 levels of conservatism. Here's what Trump said. Please be informed that we will no longer let the

00:42:01.720 American public be ripped off by credit card companies that are charging interest rates of

00:42:04.680 20 to 30 percent and even more, which festered unimpeded during the sleepy Joe Biden administration.

00:42:09.040 Affordability, all caps. He's taking Zoran Mamdani's word. He's taking the left's word,

00:42:13.500 using it against them. Effective January 20th, 2026. I, as President of the United States,

00:42:17.520 am calling for a one-year cap on credit card interest rates of 10 percent.

00:42:21.820 Now, one year, that's the jubilee part, but interest rates of 10 percent, that's the anti-usury part. 0.94

00:42:28.220 It's actually a little tricky to exactly define what usury means. Does usury mean

00:42:32.520 taking of any interest? Does usury mean taking of excessive interest? Does usury mean taking of

00:42:38.240 interest in certain? It's actually quite unclear for millennia now exactly what usury means,

00:42:42.560 but put that aside. Coincidentally, he says, the January 20th date will coincide with the one-year

00:42:47.320 anniversary of the historic and very successful Trump administration. Thank you for your attention

00:42:50.620 to this matter. Okay, love it. I love this for a lot of reasons. One, usury is bad. Usury is actually

00:42:58.240 bad. There are going to be some people who are idolaters of the free market who say, no, no,

00:43:02.620 this is terrible, actually. We need to let the free market do its work. And the only effect of this

00:43:06.480 will be to cut certain people off from taking out lots of credit. Say, yes, that's a feature,

00:43:11.680 not a bug of this policy, because we don't want to allow people who are not going to be able to

00:43:18.380 pay that back to just enslave themselves in debt for the rest of their lives. That's actually not

00:43:22.680 a great thing. We do want to discourage spending on certain things. If they can't afford food or

00:43:26.580 water or medical care, we will offer that to them. We already do that through the welfare state, 0.84

00:43:30.280 but we don't want people through sheer vice and miseducation to enslave themselves in debt to go

00:43:36.020 buy more baubles. That's actually bad. And our civilization has discouraged or outlawed that

00:43:40.600 for all of history. That's true. However, let's get down to the even deeper level.

00:43:47.280 This is very, very conservative. Very conservative. As I mentioned, books of Moses,

00:43:53.220 conservative. And throughout Christendom, we've had anti-usury laws. Someone responded and said,

00:43:58.100 well, Michael, we want to conserve 1776. We don't want to conserve some medieval Christian society, 0.97

00:44:05.880 or some ancient Middle Eastern society. We want to conserve 1776. The American tradition.

00:44:12.020 Hear me, hear me. All who have ears to hear, let them hear. We had anti-usury laws in 1776.

00:44:18.560 Hear me, hear me. We had anti-usury laws well into the 19th century, like very serious anti-usury laws. 0.56

00:44:25.020 And then they started to be weakened a little bit, but they persisted in substantial form until the late

00:44:32.600 20th century. This happens so much, even when people on the right, especially of a more libertarian

00:44:39.340 flavor, when they talk about tariffs or whatever, when they talk about free speech, when they talk

00:44:44.260 about blue laws, when they talk about freedom and individual liberty, they say, this is the American

00:44:49.640 tradition. And what they are describing is very often an innovation of like the 1980s.

00:44:54.620 And they're just wrong about, we've had in this country, all sorts of laws that they would be

00:45:00.000 shocked to find out. Laws against blasphemy, okay? Laws against burning the American flag for a very

00:45:07.540 long time until like within the last few decades. We've had laws against usury. We've had establishments

00:45:15.140 of churches in the States for decades after ratification of the constitution. This is also

00:45:21.300 very American. And then just at a practical political level, what I really like about this

00:45:25.860 is it gets us through the midterms. The Libs are going to complain about that, but that is part of

00:45:31.280 it. It gets us through the midterms. You can't have that forever. It would be much more radical

00:45:37.520 to cap interest rates like at 10% on credit cards forever. And it would probably create that more

00:45:43.100 downstream economic effects. But Trump's not above winning an election and it's good to win elections.

00:45:48.480 You don't want to be immoral to win elections, but you want to win elections. Good. And winning

00:45:52.360 is important. A lot of Republicans just want to lose with dignity and they don't have, they don't

00:45:55.920 even have dignity when they lose. The final reason this is important is it means that Trump is sensitive

00:46:01.940 to, he is responding to the real economic challenges, especially of young people. That is real.

00:46:11.240 And these people who are often very rich want to explain it all away. Oh, it's no, you kids,

00:46:16.100 pull yourself up by your bootstraps. You kids quit your belly aching. Yeah, you can't afford a home,

00:46:20.180 but you know, the homes are a lot nicer now. And like, quit your belly aching. You know,

00:46:23.700 you got big screen TVs and you got, you got Uber Eats and you need to stop ordering avocado toast or

00:46:29.060 whatever. Even if we are, you know, even if we are curmudgeonly old men deep down, you know,

00:46:34.300 even if that is, as conservatives, that's kind of our natural state. We have to recognize the palace

00:46:38.920 is never safe when the cottage is unhappy. And there are very real economic challenges that young

00:46:45.020 people, even young conservatives are facing today. You can say the homes are much bigger and nicer

00:46:48.360 now. Yeah, okay. But there aren't, there aren't like cheap small homes that your grandparents had.

00:46:53.100 So they, you still have this housing problem. You've had massive economic tumult because of the

00:46:57.780 technology revolution. You've had mass migration, which has damaged the economy and economic 1.00

00:47:04.740 prospects. You've had decades of racial discrimination against whites and Asians in

00:47:08.580 affirmative action. You've had, you have real economic problems. Trump needs to respond to that.

00:47:13.500 And he is even down to banning institutional investors from buying single family homes.

00:47:20.300 BlackRock doesn't get to buy single family homes anymore. This is the kind of responsiveness

00:47:23.840 that you get from Trump that is deeply conservative. And they're kind of two schools of thought on this.

00:47:29.640 There's one, they're the guys who think that what politics really is, is just perfectly reciting

00:47:36.280 verbatim the campaign slogans of Ronald Reagan's reelection campaign in 1984. They think that true

00:47:42.200 conservatism is never changing anything in any way, including the syllables uttered by politicians

00:47:48.600 from what Ronald Reagan said on the trail in 84. And there are others who say, no, no, no. Ronald

00:47:55.940 Reagan wouldn't be saying that today. If Ronald Reagan were alive today, he would not be saying the

00:47:59.460 things that he said in 1984. Because politics is a practical art and science, and it applies eternal

00:48:05.040 principles, yes, to constantly changing circumstances. And part of the reason Reagan won, by the way,

00:48:10.840 is he was reacting to the real circumstances of Jimmy Carter, of stagflation, of a weak foreign

00:48:16.480 policy. He was responding to it. He would have run differently had he run in 1950. He was very

00:48:21.940 sensitive. That's how he built a big coalition of people who previously hadn't voted Republican.

00:48:26.200 Trump did the same thing. He's showing that sensitivity now. And the future politicians we're

00:48:31.420 looking at, whether we're talking about midterm races in 26, whether we're talking about presidential

00:48:35.020 in 2028, whether we're looking at 2032. They need to be sensitive to, they need to be able to build

00:48:39.960 and rebuild coalitions and change the way that they're talking about policies, not in a way that

00:48:47.080 is hypocritical and undermining their principles, but in a way that is applying those very principles

00:48:51.000 to changing circumstances by acknowledging the reality of change, which is one of the constants in

00:48:56.660 this world. Okay. Today's Music Monday. The rest of the show continues now. You do not want to miss it.

00:49:00.540 Become a member. Use code NOLS Canada WLAS to check out for two months free on all annual plans.

00:49:16.700 What was it like, Merlin, to be alone with God?

00:49:25.720 Is that who you think I was alone with?

00:49:30.540 Merlin, I knew your father. I am yet convinced that he was not of this world.

00:49:39.340 All men know of the great Taliesin.

00:49:42.540 You are my father, that the gods should war for my soul.

00:49:46.940 Princess Garrus, savior of our people.

00:49:52.780 I know what the bull god offered you.

00:49:54.060 I was offered the same.

00:49:57.020 And?

00:49:58.620 There is a new power at work in the world. I've seen it.

00:50:01.180 A god who sacrifices what he loves for us.

00:50:05.340 We are each given only one life, Singer.

00:50:08.140 No.

00:50:09.340 We're given another.

00:50:13.180 I learnt of Yazoo the Christ. 1.00

00:50:15.340 And I have become his follower.

00:50:17.180 He's waiting on a miracle.

00:50:18.620 And I think you can give him one.

00:50:20.780 Trust in Yazoo.

00:50:21.900 He is the only hope for men like us.

00:50:25.020 Vader Britain never rests in the hands of the great light.

00:50:28.060 Great light, great darkness.

00:50:30.700 Such things mattered to me then. 0.84

00:50:33.260 What matters to you now, mistress of lies?

00:50:37.020 You, nephew. 0.73

00:50:38.860 The sword of a high king.

00:50:45.980 How many lives must be lost before you accept the power you were born to wield?

00:50:53.420 So clinging to the promises of a god who has abandoned you.

00:50:56.620 I cannot take up that sword again.

00:50:59.740 You know what you must do.

00:51:03.100 Great light, forgive me.

00:51:08.860 The time has come.

00:51:14.140 To be reborn.

The Michael Knowles Show - January 12, 2026

Ep. 1888 - Gang Members GET SHOT Trying To Run Over ICE Agent

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