Ep. 1888 - Gang Members GET SHOT Trying To Run Over ICE Agent
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In the wake of the shooting of a mother and her son by ICE agents in Minneapolis, a new narrative has emerged about what actually happened and why it happened. And ICE is responding the way ICE should be responding. Plus, the latest on the latest in the Trump administration's new policy toward Mexico.
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New liberal narrative update just dropped. I don't want you to miss this one. It's gotten a
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little confusing. It's moving fast. So here's a timeline. As we all know, the initial narrative
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around the officer involved shooting in Minneapolis was that ICE agents murdered a peaceful, innocent
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mom by shooting her through her driver's side window while she sat in her car minding her own
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business. Then after video footage contradicted all of that, the narrative changed to still pretty
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close. ICE agents murdering a peaceful, innocent mom while she was driving away from them. She wasn't
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just sitting in the car minding her own business, but she was driving, but she was driving away from
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them. Then after video footage contradicted that narrative, the narrative changed to ICE agents
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murdering the peaceful, innocent mom while she might have been driving toward the cop. So, okay,
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maybe she wasn't driving away. Maybe she was driving toward the cop, but she didn't actually hit him.
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So they had no right to shoot. She would have stopped. She would have turned before she hit him.
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So now that narrative has been contradicted by yet more video. And the liberal mayor of Minneapolis
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has just given us the latest narrative, which is sure, she hit the officer with her car,
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but only a little bit. She was peaceful. She was sitting there. She was doing nothing. She was
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minding her own business, too. She was driving away, too. She was driving at him, but she wasn't
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going to hit him, too. Okay, she hit him, but only a little bit. It was only a slight attempted vehicular
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manslaughter and definitely not enough to justify his defending himself. We will get to the latest on
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the story and to the excellent way that ICE is responding. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael
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Don't take my word for it on the media. Here you have it straight from the horse's mouth.
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Probably actually a different part of the horse. Actually, it's probably a different animal
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altogether. One of those animals from Tatooine or the Huttese Village or one of the Ooga Booga
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Star Wars people. In any case, in English, here is Jacob Fry.
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Don't take my word for it. Don't take their word for it. Watch the video from every single angle.
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I mean, the ICE agent walked away with a hip injury that he might as well have gotten from
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closing a refrigerator door with his hips. He was not injured. I've seen worse injuries from doing that.
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And so give me a break. No, he was not ran over. He walked out of there with a hop in his step.
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And so we just got to get to the point where we're at least operating from, hey, this is like
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we're looking at it on the video screen. This is what we're seeing. Can we all see that it wasn't
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all over? And then, you know, yeah, J.D. fans, this concept of absolute immunity is pretty bizarre.
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What man closes a refrigerator with his hip? I know that's a tangential point.
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Does any man, I know women do that. You know, they're in the kitchen. They got the kid in their
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arm. They're stirring the pasta sauce. They do a little boop. Just a little boop. Hit that refrigerator.
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Has a man, has a heterosexual man ever one time in his life closed a refrigerator with his hip?
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It's a minor, a relatively minor point for Jacob Fry, not beating any of the many allegations against
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him. But then let's get to the narrative. I was reliably informed by the whole media,
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by all the politicians, by all the Democrats that this woman did not even come close to hitting the
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officer. Initially, she was just sitting in her car and then she was driving away and then she
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wasn't going to hit him and she wasn't trying to hit him and she wasn't here close to hitting him. And
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now, yeah, whatever. He got a little hip injury. She hit him with a car. She hit him.
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Oh, you just got to in a world after virtue, in a world after orderly society, you have to explain
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everything. Listen close. I'm going to pull the microphone closer to me. Jacob Fry, if you're
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listening, Democrats, if you're listening, crazy white women who are going to get yourselves killed
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if you keep acting the way you are. Listen to me. Tune in. Listen to me. You can't hit police officers
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with your car ever under. Even if it's just a little tap on the hip, you can't hit anybody with
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your car. But especially and I want you to write this down. You cannot hit a police officer with your
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car or you're going to get shot in the face and you're going to deserve it. And this guy, this
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lunatic, Jacob Fry, we can chalk it up to he doesn't have a great grasp on the English language.
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If he were speaking cluckaluckal hoo-ha on solo, maybe he would have made more sense. But in English,
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he's not making any sense. She only hit him a little bit. Let me please show me the statute
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that says you're allowed to run into a cop with your car, federal law enforcement officer with your car,
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but only if you only hit him on the hip a little bit. Then he has no right to defend himself.
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Why is Jacob Fry admitting this? He's admitting this because there's video everywhere. This is why
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we're very thankful to body camera footage. We'll get actually to some of the video from the officer's
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body in a moment. This is why the libs demanded. They said we want body cams on all the cops because
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they concocted and peddled and then came to believe themselves this ridiculous narrative that the
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cops are out there looking for all the marginalized people and especially black people. But I guess
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also like crazy liberal white ladies as well. They're just trying to slaughter them. They're
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just looking to kill them all day long. That's why we need to get body cameras on the cops. And
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that's going to that's going to protect these innocent, marginalized criminals. And then guess
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what happened? You put the body cameras on the cops and you find that the cops are in the right
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99.99999% of the time. And it turns out that the criminals are bad and it doesn't look good.
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The footage doesn't look good for them. Just want to before I put a little fine point
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on it. Don't want to beat that dead horse, that dead horse's derriere, Mr. Fry over here. But
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Margaret Brennan on CBS News interviewing Ilhan Omar. This is the framing of the shooting.
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It was blocking the road. They are claiming this is an act of terrorism.
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Yeah, Renee Nicole Good, as you hear her say, she's not mad. She's sitting in her car,
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peacefully waving cars to get by. This agent, as you see, gets out of his car,
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automatically starts running towards her, trying to open her door. She feels scared. She tries
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to turn the wheel away. And then you see the other officer who can clearly see the car is moving,
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move towards the front of the car, which if they are saying that he has 10 years on service and is
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trained, he should know that you shouldn't be trying to get in front of a moving car.
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And so it is not acceptable for Kristi Noem and the president and the vice president to make these
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kind of judgments without there being a full investigation. Even though we can see in the
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videos that have been produced so far that what they are describing is really not what is taking place.
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And so if they're saying that we shouldn't believe our eyes-
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I can't take any more. And there's Margaret Brennan. Yes. Wow. Yes.
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Essentially, nothing that Ilhan Omar just said is true. But even just the original framing,
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she's peacefully sitting in her car, minding her own business. She is obstructing law enforcement.
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This woman, everything we know, none of this is controvertible. This woman trained to disrupt
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ICE, federal law enforcement, federal law enforcement, which was there to arrest the
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gang-affiliated, because you had to deal with the cartels to get across the border. Basically,
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all of them are gang-affiliated to some degree or another. These criminals who are in Minneapolis,
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ICE is there to arrest them. She trains to obstruct federal law enforcement. She's blocking traffic,
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which is a dysfunctional act, which you're not allowed to do, which is very, very dangerous.
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And then she's not just minding her own business. She's driving into a cop. The cop is in front of
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the car before she's driving. It's not like he leaps in front of the car. We can see this in part
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because we have video, but also in part because the bullet goes through the front windshield.
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Then she doesn't turn her wheel and then drive away. She hits the gas. The tires start spinning
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directly into the cop. And then finally, she turns her tire, but a little too late because she hit
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the cop, which we know even Jacob Fry is admitting. None of this is really in dispute.
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And there's Margaret Brennan in CBS News, and she's just nodding along. Yes, yes, yes. Wow,
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you're so right. Yes, wow. We have more footage. Here is more camera footage totally vindicating the ICE agent.
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So you see the agent walking in front of the car. Here she is.
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I'm not mad at you, boy. Show your face. I'm not mad at you.
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It's okay. We don't change our plates every morning, just so you know. It'll be the same plate when you
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come talk to us later. That's fine. U.S. citizen, former...
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You want to come at us? You want to come at us? I say go get yourself some lunch, big boy.
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Go ahead. Out of the car. Get out of the car. Get out of the car.
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So there you have it. First of all, we now have the footage, whether it was a body cam,
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whether it was a cell phone camera, whatever it was. We have the footage from the agent. He is hit
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by the car. You can see that. But what... Look, the only people who have a blind disregard for the
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truth or who don't consume any reputable news sources at this point don't understand that.
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What's more interesting about this footage is this woman gets out there. She goes,
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I'm not even mad. The way this is being portrayed in the media is, I'm not mad. I love you. I love
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everyone. And then that ICE agent comes in. He says, you F and B-I-T-C-H. That's how it's being
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portrayed. That's probably what you're seeing on Instagram and Facebook from your liberal
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colleagues who don't know any better. Really what she's doing is she is obstructing law
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enforcement. She goes, I'm not even mad. I'm not even mad. She's being very provocative.
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But the lesbian partner is on the scene. This woman's a lesbian. She has children,
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but she's a lesbian, whatever. Not even going to get into it. This lesbian partner comes out and
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she's getting in the cop's face. And she's saying, yeah, this could be a same license plate when you
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come back later. We're not moving. We're going to keep obstructing law enforcement. Yeah, you big
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boy, go get a lunch, fatso. That's what she's saying to this guy. And then crucially, she turns to her
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lesbian partner, these people who have trained to obstruct law enforcement, and she says, drive, baby,
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drive. That's the key. Four words, actually. Drive, baby, drive, drive. That's the key to this.
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The person who is most responsible for this woman's death is the woman herself. She drove
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into a cop. When you drive into cops, generally speaking, you can expect to be shot in the face.
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The person who is second most responsible for this woman's death is her lesbian partner.
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She's the one who gave her the order. She's the one who put it in her mind to drive into the cop.
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The group that is next most responsible for this woman's death are the Democrat thought leaders,
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such as they are, the Democrat politicians, the Democrat elected officials who have allowed this
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kind of anarchy to go on and on and on. The mayor of Minneapolis, the governor of Minneapolis,
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and the Democrats going back years, certainly all the way back to BLM, who have encouraged this kind
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of anarchy because it created the false expectation in these women's minds that they could get away with
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driving into cops. And they can when you have a responsible government in town, as you do at
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the federal level with President Trump. But all of these layers of scandal had to exist.
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Had that lesbian not gone in there and told her paramour, drive, baby, drive, that woman probably
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wouldn't have driven. That's what we're talking about. And when we talk about how to rectify this,
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this kind of information is crucial because it's not just about individual actions.
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What it's about is a political solution. What it's about is the kind of society and culture
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that breeds good behavior and that encourages good behavior. You had to have a lot of things go wrong
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here for this woman to get killed. And they all went wrong. And this is why, forget about the people
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on the left, even the more individualist types on the right, need to get it into their heads
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that the only way to rectify these problems is with a political social solution based on standards,
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based on norms, based on expectations, based on habituation, based on behavior, which we're
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going to get to in one second because ICE has done a great job of resetting our expectations.
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for warranty details. So, we now have more of these incidents taking place. More criminals are
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trying to run over DHS agents. If we turn to Portland right now, you have two criminals who tried
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to run over DHS agents, ICE agents, who were then shot. You're not hearing quite as much about this
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story. And the reason for that is that in this case, it wasn't just some like white lady,
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white lesbian, you know, activist type. It was a Trendy Aragua gangster. So, the two people who
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tried to run over the cop were a gangster and his prostitute, both of whom are involved in this ring,
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both of whom have ties to Trendy Aragua, allegedly. Here we have, this is just a local news report,
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K-A-T-U. Two shot by border agent in Portland have Trendy Aragua ties, DHS and police say.
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The case is as clear as can be. There's another example of the body camera or just more facts
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coming out, vindicating law enforcement, totally upending the liberal narrative, as has even
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happened in Minneapolis and has happened constantly. Going back to Michael Brown, going back to all of
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these stories that the left tries to gin up against cops. Well, here you have, as clear a case could
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be, illegals associated with a particularly violent Venezuelan gang running a human trafficking ring,
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trying to run over cops who were then shot. They weren't even killed, but they were stopped.
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Okay, police chief in Portland, Bob Day, what is your take on law enforcement stopping the
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Latin American gangsters from running them over? And what I can say is there is an association
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with the two folks yesterday and TDA. TDA, Trendy Aragua. I hesitated to even share this information
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initially because I'm very aware of the historic injustice of victim blaming, oftentimes portrayed
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by law enforcement, including this very agency that I've represented so proudly for so many years.
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For just a moment, specifically to my Latino community.
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It saddens me that we even have to qualify these remarks because I understand, or at least have
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attempted to understand through your voices, your concern, your fear, your anger.
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This information in no way is meant to keep to all, he takes out a hank, he wipes the steers.
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Or to condone or support or agree with any of the actions that occurred yesterday.
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What actions occurred yesterday? The actions that occurred yesterday in this clip are that
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Venezuelan gangsters associated with a foreign terrorist organization tried to run over a cop
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and he shot them. He goes, I don't want it to seem, I, the chief of police, I don't want it to seem
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like I condone law enforcement officers defending themselves when foreign terrorists try to run them
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over. I don't condone that. I don't agree with that, okay? Won't somebody please think of the
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Venezuelan pimps? I know everyone, I don't even, I hesitate even to say, I don't want to victim,
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but the victim in this case being a Venezuelan pimp terrorists who were trying to run over a cop
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in America. I don't, I'm not saying I condone that. I don't condone the self-defense. You don't
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condone it? You should, you need to resign. You don't condone it. You don't condone federal law
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enforcement protecting itself against a terrorist trying to run them over? A pimp Venezuelan illegal
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terrorist trying to run them over? You don't condone that? Well, then you need to resign because your
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judgment is severely impaired. This guy crying, crying, I was going to say crying like a woman.
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He's not crying like a woman. Any, well, I don't care. The most sensitive little woman with even
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an, and the most opposed to violence, dainty little gal who has even a modicum of common sense would not
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be crying in this situation. If you, if one were to cry in this situation, one would cry that the poor
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law enforcement officer was almost run over by these animals, but no, he cries for the animals.
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Okay. What are we going to do about this? Well, there's video going viral. We actually can't use
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it. I think there's some kind of copyright issue with the video, but it's a beautiful video. It's a
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beautiful video of some little red liberal car, like a Prius or something parked in the middle of
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the street, obstructing law enforcement, trying to stop the ICE raids. And in this case, the ICE agents
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walk up, the guys won't get out. They won't, they won't move their car. So they smash in the windows
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of the car. They open up the doors and they drag these people out and they arrest them. And then
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one of the officers gets into the car and parks it and gets it out of the street. That's what you
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have to do. That's, and it feels good, especially for those of us who want to see criminals brought
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to justice. It feels really good to see the police do their jobs, have the political cover to do their
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jobs, smash out those windows, drag these people who are obstructing law enforcement, which is a
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crime, arrest them, get the car out of the way, keep on and carry on. If that feels good, we like
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that. We recognize that that not only feels good as a matter of kind of visceral, I don't know,
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it gives us butterflies in our stomach, but it's also good because it advances the cause of justice.
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But I'd like to add one third good that comes from this. That is the only way to avoid dead
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leftist agitators. The only way to avoid dead leftist agitators like that lady in Minneapolis,
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or I guess even if you're, if you're going to blubber like the chief of the Portland police for the
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Trendy Aragut pimps and prostitutes, I guess you can, you can worry about them too. The way to avoid
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those people dying is for federal law enforcement to vigorously enforce the law. Because if they don't,
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one of two things is going to happen. Either these, these people are going to run amok and
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then you're going to get rioting and then you're going to get a lot of dead agitators as happened
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during BLM. When the politicians told the cops to stand down and BLM burned cities down across the
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country and then you had dozens of people killed. Probably many of those people sympathetic to BLM,
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but they just got caught up in the mob violence. So either that's going to happen,
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you can get more dead leftist agitators, or cops are not going to allow themselves to be run over,
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whether it be by agitators, white ladies in Minneapolis or by foreign gangsters,
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but they're not going to let themselves be run over and they're going to shoot them in the face.
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And you're going to get more dead agitators. Either way though, those are the only two options.
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If you want fewer dead agitators, which I would like to do, I don't celebrate that that lady in
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Minneapolis died. I don't even really celebrate when Trendy Aragut people are mowed down. I'd like
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for them to reform and it's a fallen world. Sometimes you just got to shoot them, but I'd like for them
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to repent and lead flourishing lives. In any case, if you want those people not to take a bullet to
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the head, you need the law to be enforced. You need to smash some windows in some Priuses and move
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those cars out of the street and let law enforcement do their job. Okay. Speaking of enforcing the law,
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Pure Talk, America's wireless company. Trump goes into Venezuela. It's beautiful.
00:25:07.060
All of a sudden, the rest of the world takes note. Trump is serious about not letting drugs
00:25:14.460
enter into our country. And even beyond that, President Trump is serious about kicking foreign
00:25:18.800
adversaries out of our hemisphere. And even beyond that, President Trump is serious about
00:25:22.380
stopping the flow of migrants at the source, which is kind of funny. It occurs to me now,
00:25:27.460
that's something Kamala Harris said. She said, well, I'm going to go to Latin America. I'm going to go to
00:25:30.420
places like Venezuela. And I'm going to get to the root cause of migration. Well, she didn't do that,
00:25:34.760
obviously. Millions of people came in every year under the Biden-Harris administration.
00:25:38.500
Trump did just stop the root cause of migration. He went in. He said, oh,
00:25:41.900
the situation in Venezuela is so bad that people keep flooding to America. Okay. Not only am I
00:25:46.160
going to close the border, I'm also going to go there and take out the root cause, namely
00:25:49.460
Nicolas Maduro. So he does that. And now, all of a sudden, the leader of Colombia, which sends a lot
00:25:55.220
of drugs to the US, he calls. He says, hey, hey, ese, hey, hombre, amigo, let's make a deal, man.
00:26:01.500
I know I said all those things, man, but let's be cool, man. Please don't bomb me.
00:26:06.040
And even in Mexico, President Trump is now threatening this action.
00:26:12.600
We've knocked out 97% of the drugs coming in by water. And we are going to start now hitting land
00:26:19.960
with regard to the cartels. The cartels are running Mexico. It's very, very sad to watch and see what's
00:26:27.840
happened to that country. But the cartels are running and they're killing 250, 300,000 people
00:26:33.520
in our country every single year. The drugs, it's horrible. It's devastated families. You know,
00:26:38.800
you lose a child or a parent. I mean, parents are dying, too, with drugs. So we've done a really good
00:26:44.640
job. We're knocking it down. The numbers are really getting to be, they're always going to be too high
00:26:50.340
if you have one person. But they're going down just like the border. The border was a total mess for
00:26:55.700
years. I did it the first time very quickly. And this time I did it even better because this was a
00:27:01.760
bigger mess. This was a border like no other probably in the history of the world. There's
00:27:05.700
never been a border like that when anybody could just walk into your country. The border's ostensibly
00:27:09.820
really closed now. It's closed. It can't come in. And nobody comes. Nobody even tries.
00:27:15.000
You like how Trump slips that in there to the point that even even Sean, I think, is he doesn't quite
00:27:21.400
hear exactly what Trump is saying. And John's a very good interviewer. And Trump says, yeah,
00:27:26.280
we're doing this. We're doing that. We're doing this. Also, we might do land strikes in Mexico.
00:27:29.040
And we're doing this and that and this. And you say, wait, hold on, what did you say?
00:27:31.480
I said, we're doing this. No, no, after that. Oh, we're doing that. No, no, no. What would you say
00:27:34.700
in the middle? Oh, we're going to bomb Mexico. Oh. And this is pretty brilliant. Even take out
00:27:43.060
what it will mean for migration or drugs or the economy. Just as a matter of political
00:27:48.720
coalitions. This is brilliant. And this is something that I think Trump showed us in
00:27:52.660
Venezuela. What was so notable from a domestic intra-right coalitional view of the hit on
00:28:01.780
Venezuela is it managed to unite disparate factions of the American right. The neocons loved it
00:28:09.680
because the hit on Venezuela weakened Iran, Hezbollah, and Russia and advanced America's
00:28:15.660
geopolitical position. But even the paleos generally loved it because it was very much
00:28:21.880
in keeping with traditional American foreign policy going back over 200 years to the Monroe
00:28:25.420
doctrine. It focused on stopping drugs. It focused on stopping the migrants coming across our border,
00:28:31.920
issues that are near and dear to the people who want to focus more on the American home front,
00:28:36.040
the America first nationalist types. Same thing here. Same thing here. President Trump
00:28:42.800
used the military to hit Mexico. This is something I heard from right-wing critics of the Iraq war and
00:28:47.900
the Afghanistan war. They say, we're going to use the military. Why don't we use a closer
00:28:51.300
home? We got these cartels on our border sending people across human trafficking, sending drugs,
00:28:55.280
killing 75,000 Americans a year because of fentanyl. We're going to use the military. Why are we sending
00:28:58.780
them to Iraq and Libya and Syria and Afghanistan? Why don't we send them down to Mexico? That's what we
00:29:03.720
need to do. And Trump says, okay. And he seems to synthesize two antitheses. You have, let's get a
00:29:14.380
little Hegelian for a second. You have the thesis of the last 25 years, which is the neocons,
00:29:20.240
liberal imperialists, liberal lowercase l, meaning they want to go and spread Madisonian democracy and
00:29:27.440
Lockean liberalism all around the world. And we're going to plant it in the villages of Afghanistan.
00:29:31.500
And the sheer weight of John Locke's second treatise of government will totally extirpate
00:29:38.360
their desires for bakabazi and all sorts of backwards and really unpleasant tribal behavior.
00:29:45.100
Yes, we're going to create little pillars of democracy like 18th century America all over
00:29:52.180
the world. It didn't happen. That's the thesis. Then the antithesis of the paleocons who say,
00:29:57.540
we need to be conservative nationalists. We're not going to be liberal imperialists. We're going
00:30:02.620
to be conservative nationalists. And we're going to focus on America first and on our domestic
00:30:06.700
problems. And Trump is neither of those things. Trump is a conservative imperialist. That's clearly
00:30:16.020
what's going on here. He takes the imperialism a little bit from the neocons, but he takes the
00:30:22.520
the groundedness, the pragmatism, the realism from the paleocons. He's a conservative imperialist,
00:30:28.260
which if you've been listening to this show for any period of time, certainly if you've been
00:30:32.680
listening to it for many years, you will know how much I hate to say I told you so. I've called this
00:30:36.480
from the beginning. I said, Trump is not a Bush, Bushy neocon, but likewise, he is not a pure
00:30:43.920
non-interventionist, isolationist. That's not what he means by America first. What he means by
00:30:50.820
America first is not even really nationalist. It's imperialist, but it's imperialism based on
00:30:57.380
real interests. It's imperialism, in other words, based on a conservative view of politics,
00:31:04.660
of a defense of the nation. But it's not just turning inward and looking within our own borders.
00:31:09.460
It's bombing Venezuela, dropping the Moab, going into Greenland, taking Greenland,
00:31:16.120
joking around, maybe not quite joking around about taking Canada,
00:31:19.700
cheering on regimes falling in Cuba and extending our sphere of influence.
00:31:23.260
That's what he's talking about. And that view, I think, is where a lot of Americans are.
00:31:27.360
We want to be strong. We want to enjoy the privileges that come around with global leadership,
00:31:31.540
but we don't want to be taken off to ideological abstract flights of fancy,
00:31:35.460
such that we get bogged down in quagmires in very distant, very foreign cultures,
00:31:40.200
where our thin liberal ideas, the formalized abridgment of the supposed substratum of what
00:31:47.100
we think makes up the American way of life, it's just not going to take hold there.
00:31:50.780
This is this beautiful meeting of it. Works very, very well, and it's perfectly natural.
00:31:55.980
We have been wielding power in Mexico for a very long time. A lot of America used to be Mexico.
00:32:04.780
Okay, this is natural. This is very traditional. And as Latin America changes, as you see this
00:32:10.400
cascading effects of Venezuela, the next regime that could fall is Cuba. Cuba ostensibly has like
00:32:15.720
four days of oil left. They just got the oil cut off. They were already in a major crisis.
00:32:20.480
The Castro's are dead. Who's the president of Cuba right now? Nobody even really knows. It was Fidel
00:32:25.040
forever, and then it was his brother Raul, but he was old, and then he left, and then it's like
00:32:28.820
some other guy. And the regime is very shaky. Russia's not really supporting Cuba anymore because
00:32:33.400
Russia's busy in Ukraine. China has come in to help Cuba a little bit, but Cuba's really weak right
00:32:40.980
now. So who's going to be the next leader of Cuba? President Trump responding to a tweet that says
00:32:45.600
Marco Rubio will be president of Cuba. He responds and says, sounds good to me. And we on Michael
00:32:51.740
an old show. I actually have exclusive footage of Marco Rubio from inside the Oval Office. There he
00:32:56.620
is. There were signs. There he is on the yellow couch in the Oval Office. He's sitting next to
00:33:02.660
Vice President J.D. Vance, some other, but you see he's got the green military fatigues, that beard.
00:33:09.800
I hadn't even noticed the beard, the cat, the Fidel cap. And then of course, when he was smoking a
00:33:14.860
cigar in the Oval, there were signs that Trump had this planned. In any case, Iran is now also
00:33:20.900
on the brink. It's unclear because there's a near revolution or a color revolution in Iran every
00:33:26.980
six months, it seems. But this one does seem pretty hardcore. So there is a world in which
00:33:31.300
the Shah of Iran returns. The Shah of Iran, whose father was put into rule Iran by the United States
00:33:37.260
back when our imperial policy worked pretty well. It's unclear. Now, if the crown prince of Iran,
00:33:44.360
Riza Pallavi, if he's not up for the task, obviously, Rubio can keep the beard. He's going
00:33:49.360
to have to change his outfit a little bit. But the cascading effects of Trump's very effective
00:33:55.720
strike on Venezuela could reshape the world, could reshape the political order, and could
00:34:01.380
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Daily Wire Plus. My favorite comment you see. Now, I didn't pick the comment.
00:34:39.960
I want you to know I didn't pick the comment. They didn't even remind me to pick a comment
00:34:43.500
today. I guess they sent them over to me, but the producers picked the comment. So if this comment
00:34:46.920
is no good, it's their fault. It's from the Drummer's Workshop Norm's Music. I bet it'll be
00:34:51.340
great. It says, has the left blamed the spinning tires on climate change yet? Good question.
00:34:56.540
I don't know. Look, I don't know if that's really my, maybe I'll look at the comments later.
00:35:02.420
There's been a major endorsement in the 2028 presidential race. I know we're early,
00:35:06.140
but first of all, presidential races last for years now. And two, we're in this weird situation
00:35:10.400
in which President Trump has had a non-consecutive second term, which is why I've mentioned before
00:35:14.940
this is going to be a different kind of primary if there even is a primary. Well, anyway, one of the
00:35:20.240
potential presidential contenders, Glenn Youngkin, very successful governor of a blue Commonwealth,
00:35:27.580
Virginia, who was able to do a pretty good job there, could definitely bring in a little bit more
00:35:31.660
of the moderate vote, maybe could pull in some suburban women, what have you. This guy who could have
00:35:37.320
been a contender just made a different endorsement.
00:35:43.860
No, on a presidential run in the future, not ruling it out then.
00:35:48.940
Well, what I firmly believe, and I'll repeat it again, I agree with President Trump. I agree with
00:35:53.340
Marco Rubio. I think Vice President Vance would be a great nominee.
00:35:58.280
There it is. Fox News Sunday, Glenn Youngkin, who is a presidential contender,
00:36:02.340
he says, yeah, I think J.D. Vance would be a great nominee. And notice how he endorses him.
00:36:09.220
He doesn't just say, I, Glenn Youngkin, independently think J.D. Vance, the Vice President,
00:36:12.700
would be a great nominee. He says, I'm with Trump and Rubio. Rubio, who is the number two guy who
00:36:21.420
could be the nominee in 2028. Rubio has already come out and said, I support Vance. I want Vance to
00:36:28.020
be the nominee. Trump, the guy who picked the cabinet and obviously picked J.D. Vance to be
00:36:34.080
his running mate. He came out, he said, yeah, I think Rubio should be Secretary of State forever.
00:36:38.300
And I think Vance, if Rubio is not gonna be Secretary of State forever, maybe Vance and
00:36:44.200
Rubio can run as a ticket. So he has not quite explicitly, but more or less crowned J.D. Vance
00:36:51.260
as his successor, which he was always going to do because it's a non-consecutive second term.
00:36:55.420
So the moment that Trump picked his VP, he was effectively picking the nominee for the next
00:37:01.620
time. Glenn Youngkin now coming around this as well, even the way he does it. It reminds me of
00:37:08.460
something, and I've tried to convey this in various media when the question has come up.
00:37:13.420
There is a lot of talk about a right-wing civil war. We hear this was dominating AmericaFest,
00:37:18.640
TPSA. You hear this on all of the podcasts. There's a right-wing civil war. You hear this,
00:37:23.140
especially in the liberal media. Not really. There isn't. There is one. There is a thing
00:37:29.860
happening, and we can call it the right-wing civil war. But the Youngkin endorsement of J.D. Vance
00:37:36.840
on the basis that Trump and Marco have already endorsed J.D. Vance reminds us that the so-called
00:37:43.340
right-wing civil war is entirely a podcasting phenomenon. And I find that very interesting
00:37:49.720
as a matter of politics, actually, that this division on the right is really just exclusively
00:37:56.240
in the domain of the chattering class. It's different podcasters attacking each other.
00:38:01.500
When it comes to actual policy, you don't see a ton of disagreement.
00:38:07.720
Do you? You see plenty of people cheering on Trump's policy in Venezuela. Even sort of famously or
00:38:14.560
infamously, Tucker was urging caution on Venezuela. But since the Venezuela strike,
00:38:20.740
I don't think Tucker has come out and attacked it. He was at the White House just the other day.
00:38:23.900
Even there, he would be the critic, the big critic of that policy. There's really no disagreement on
00:38:28.640
the policy. How about on the candidates? Everyone supports Trump. And then everyone basically supports
00:38:35.260
the vice president for 2028, including the people most likely to run against the vice president in
00:38:41.020
2028. They've already endorsed him. This is the silver lining of the right-wing civil war,
00:38:47.380
is there is, as a matter of policy and actual politicians who will affect the policy,
00:38:54.000
more unity in the Republican Party than I have probably ever seen in my entire lifetime.
00:38:59.640
That too, by the way, is a characteristic of this historic situation we're in, which is the
00:39:05.860
non-consecutive second term of Donald Trump, who's dominated American politics for a decade.
00:39:09.220
This is not to say that the things that the chattering class is attacking each other over
00:39:16.320
are not important, that they don't involve real moral issues, that they're not thought-provoking.
00:39:22.480
Often they're not, but I guess sometimes they are. There are disagreements to be had. However,
00:39:28.420
my strategy from the beginning is to say, I think that the incentives here are misaligned.
00:39:33.900
The incentives for podcasters, for influencers, for tweeters, for TikTokers is to just create a lot
00:39:41.840
of conflict and get more views. The incentive for people who want the conservatives to advance,
00:39:49.780
for the Republican Party to win as a part of that, for the country to do better, those incentives are
00:39:53.780
to have a unity, to minimize conflict, at least to minimize public conflict, to try to solve the
00:39:58.840
problems behind the scenes. We should be very open about what we think about issues, whether those
00:40:05.480
issues are about geopolitics, foreign policy, or murder mysteries. On all of those issues that
00:40:12.420
are supposedly within the purview of the right-wing civil war, I've been clear as day on my views on
00:40:16.680
every single one of them, and I encourage everyone to be clear as day. But I guess my point on the
00:40:20.800
right-wing civil war phenomenon is, I don't think it is helpful in any way, at least not helpful to the
00:40:27.280
common good of the country, for it to become all this kind of personal jabbing and attacking and
00:40:32.600
picking, you take this side and I take this side and we're in this faction and that. Because that is
00:40:36.540
divorced from the actual political question. It's a kind of a meta-political game. It's a meta-political
00:40:42.060
entertainment, but it's divorced from, if people had different candidates and were advancing different
00:40:48.020
policies, that would be a totally different story. But they're not. Glenn Youngkin just endorsed J.D.
00:40:54.660
Vance because, he says, Rubio and Trump did the same. And we're all excited about Venezuela, and we're
00:41:01.320
all excited about the immigration policy, and we're all excited about the tax policy, and we all
00:41:05.220
ostensibly agree on everything. Now, speaking of those policies, one more little, we have to get to
00:41:14.800
this. I'm old enough to remember when, back in 2015, 2016, all the real fancy conservative types,
00:41:22.540
they said, Trump is not a real conservative. And there was some reason to wonder about that back
00:41:26.520
then. Trump had been a Democrat. We didn't really know exactly what he thought. After the first term,
00:41:32.440
it's hard to say he's not a real conservative. After the interregnum, especially into this term,
00:41:36.040
it's very hard to say that. Well, President Trump, I think, I hope, has just put those claims to rest
00:41:42.620
forever when he declared an anti-usury jubilee. We are talking about Pentateuch levels of
00:41:52.580
conservatism here, but we're not just talking about 1776. We're talking like books of Moses
00:41:58.340
levels of conservatism. Here's what Trump said. Please be informed that we will no longer let the
00:42:01.720
American public be ripped off by credit card companies that are charging interest rates of
00:42:04.680
20 to 30 percent and even more, which festered unimpeded during the sleepy Joe Biden administration.
00:42:09.040
Affordability, all caps. He's taking Zoran Mamdani's word. He's taking the left's word,
00:42:13.500
using it against them. Effective January 20th, 2026. I, as President of the United States,
00:42:17.520
am calling for a one-year cap on credit card interest rates of 10 percent.
00:42:21.820
Now, one year, that's the jubilee part, but interest rates of 10 percent, that's the anti-usury part.
00:42:28.220
It's actually a little tricky to exactly define what usury means. Does usury mean
00:42:32.520
taking of any interest? Does usury mean taking of excessive interest? Does usury mean taking of
00:42:38.240
interest in certain? It's actually quite unclear for millennia now exactly what usury means,
00:42:42.560
but put that aside. Coincidentally, he says, the January 20th date will coincide with the one-year
00:42:47.320
anniversary of the historic and very successful Trump administration. Thank you for your attention
00:42:50.620
to this matter. Okay, love it. I love this for a lot of reasons. One, usury is bad. Usury is actually
00:42:58.240
bad. There are going to be some people who are idolaters of the free market who say, no, no,
00:43:02.620
this is terrible, actually. We need to let the free market do its work. And the only effect of this
00:43:06.480
will be to cut certain people off from taking out lots of credit. Say, yes, that's a feature,
00:43:11.680
not a bug of this policy, because we don't want to allow people who are not going to be able to
00:43:18.380
pay that back to just enslave themselves in debt for the rest of their lives. That's actually not
00:43:22.680
a great thing. We do want to discourage spending on certain things. If they can't afford food or
00:43:26.580
water or medical care, we will offer that to them. We already do that through the welfare state,
00:43:30.280
but we don't want people through sheer vice and miseducation to enslave themselves in debt to go
00:43:36.020
buy more baubles. That's actually bad. And our civilization has discouraged or outlawed that
00:43:40.600
for all of history. That's true. However, let's get down to the even deeper level.
00:43:47.280
This is very, very conservative. Very conservative. As I mentioned, books of Moses,
00:43:53.220
conservative. And throughout Christendom, we've had anti-usury laws. Someone responded and said,
00:43:58.100
well, Michael, we want to conserve 1776. We don't want to conserve some medieval Christian society,
00:44:05.880
or some ancient Middle Eastern society. We want to conserve 1776. The American tradition.
00:44:12.020
Hear me, hear me. All who have ears to hear, let them hear. We had anti-usury laws in 1776.
00:44:18.560
Hear me, hear me. We had anti-usury laws well into the 19th century, like very serious anti-usury laws.
00:44:25.020
And then they started to be weakened a little bit, but they persisted in substantial form until the late
00:44:32.600
20th century. This happens so much, even when people on the right, especially of a more libertarian
00:44:39.340
flavor, when they talk about tariffs or whatever, when they talk about free speech, when they talk
00:44:44.260
about blue laws, when they talk about freedom and individual liberty, they say, this is the American
00:44:49.640
tradition. And what they are describing is very often an innovation of like the 1980s.
00:44:54.620
And they're just wrong about, we've had in this country, all sorts of laws that they would be
00:45:00.000
shocked to find out. Laws against blasphemy, okay? Laws against burning the American flag for a very
00:45:07.540
long time until like within the last few decades. We've had laws against usury. We've had establishments
00:45:15.140
of churches in the States for decades after ratification of the constitution. This is also
00:45:21.300
very American. And then just at a practical political level, what I really like about this
00:45:25.860
is it gets us through the midterms. The Libs are going to complain about that, but that is part of
00:45:31.280
it. It gets us through the midterms. You can't have that forever. It would be much more radical
00:45:37.520
to cap interest rates like at 10% on credit cards forever. And it would probably create that more
00:45:43.100
downstream economic effects. But Trump's not above winning an election and it's good to win elections.
00:45:48.480
You don't want to be immoral to win elections, but you want to win elections. Good. And winning
00:45:52.360
is important. A lot of Republicans just want to lose with dignity and they don't have, they don't
00:45:55.920
even have dignity when they lose. The final reason this is important is it means that Trump is sensitive
00:46:01.940
to, he is responding to the real economic challenges, especially of young people. That is real.
00:46:11.240
And these people who are often very rich want to explain it all away. Oh, it's no, you kids,
00:46:16.100
pull yourself up by your bootstraps. You kids quit your belly aching. Yeah, you can't afford a home,
00:46:20.180
but you know, the homes are a lot nicer now. And like, quit your belly aching. You know,
00:46:23.700
you got big screen TVs and you got, you got Uber Eats and you need to stop ordering avocado toast or
00:46:29.060
whatever. Even if we are, you know, even if we are curmudgeonly old men deep down, you know,
00:46:34.300
even if that is, as conservatives, that's kind of our natural state. We have to recognize the palace
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is never safe when the cottage is unhappy. And there are very real economic challenges that young
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people, even young conservatives are facing today. You can say the homes are much bigger and nicer
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now. Yeah, okay. But there aren't, there aren't like cheap small homes that your grandparents had.
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So they, you still have this housing problem. You've had massive economic tumult because of the
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technology revolution. You've had mass migration, which has damaged the economy and economic
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prospects. You've had decades of racial discrimination against whites and Asians in
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affirmative action. You've had, you have real economic problems. Trump needs to respond to that.
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And he is even down to banning institutional investors from buying single family homes.
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BlackRock doesn't get to buy single family homes anymore. This is the kind of responsiveness
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that you get from Trump that is deeply conservative. And they're kind of two schools of thought on this.
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There's one, they're the guys who think that what politics really is, is just perfectly reciting
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verbatim the campaign slogans of Ronald Reagan's reelection campaign in 1984. They think that true
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conservatism is never changing anything in any way, including the syllables uttered by politicians
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from what Ronald Reagan said on the trail in 84. And there are others who say, no, no, no. Ronald
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Reagan wouldn't be saying that today. If Ronald Reagan were alive today, he would not be saying the
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things that he said in 1984. Because politics is a practical art and science, and it applies eternal
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principles, yes, to constantly changing circumstances. And part of the reason Reagan won, by the way,
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is he was reacting to the real circumstances of Jimmy Carter, of stagflation, of a weak foreign
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policy. He was responding to it. He would have run differently had he run in 1950. He was very
00:48:21.940
sensitive. That's how he built a big coalition of people who previously hadn't voted Republican.
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Trump did the same thing. He's showing that sensitivity now. And the future politicians we're
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looking at, whether we're talking about midterm races in 26, whether we're talking about presidential
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in 2028, whether we're looking at 2032. They need to be sensitive to, they need to be able to build
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and rebuild coalitions and change the way that they're talking about policies, not in a way that
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is hypocritical and undermining their principles, but in a way that is applying those very principles
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to changing circumstances by acknowledging the reality of change, which is one of the constants in
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What was it like, Merlin, to be alone with God?
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Merlin, I knew your father. I am yet convinced that he was not of this world.
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You are my father, that the gods should war for my soul.
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There is a new power at work in the world. I've seen it.
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Vader Britain never rests in the hands of the great light.
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How many lives must be lost before you accept the power you were born to wield?
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So clinging to the promises of a god who has abandoned you.