The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1890 - Will The Supreme Court Finally END Transgenderism？

00:00:00.000 The right just received a massive political gift. It happened yesterday at the Supreme Court,

00:00:04.860 and the gift all comes down to the left's inability to give up transgenderism.

00:00:10.680 The justices heard two cases over letting boys compete in girls sports.

00:00:16.440 It was just as goofy as every other debate that we have ever heard over transgenderism, 0.98

00:00:21.200 and the oral arguments were in fact heard by the very justice who infamously could not define what 0.75

00:00:26.000 a woman is during her confirmation hearings. We will get into the oral arguments. First,

00:00:31.020 though, I want to make a little admission, okay? As a right-wing podcaster, author, communicator,

00:00:39.780 broadcaster, campaigner, but a card-carrying true red Republican and conservative. 0.95

00:00:47.540 I'm sick of the transgender thing. It's ridiculous. Both the ideology and the debate 1.00

00:00:54.620 are ridiculous. It is degrading that we as a nation have to talk about this. It is probably 0.94

00:01:01.620 a harbinger of our imperial collapse. It is the clearest sign of a decadent society and a darkened

00:01:08.040 intellect that we have ever experienced as a country. And yet, Odi et Amo, I hate and I love,

00:01:17.240 this issue is the greatest gift the Democrats could give to Republicans. 0.64

00:01:21.680 It is the issue on which most Americans think that the libs are the craziest. 1.00

00:01:28.280 At a time when Democrats could try to run on healthcare, or they could cook up some manipulative 0.95

00:01:36.280 narrative on the ice raids, like we're seeing in Minneapolis, or when they could focus on literally

00:01:42.860 anything else other than transgenderism. They return, like Jake Gyllenhaal to Heath Ledger 1.00

00:01:51.560 on Brokeback Mountain. They return right back to the trans thing, because it is the tragic culmination 1.00

00:01:59.360 and the most likely downfall of their false ideology. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.

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00:04:02.520 these delightful little cases. Little V. Hecox and West Virginia versus BPJ. Oral arguments yesterday

00:04:11.020 at the Supreme Court involving two trans-identifying students. The cases focus on whether or not states

00:04:20.540 can ban boys from playing in girls' sports and girls from playing in boys' sports, though that one

00:04:26.120 doesn't really matter because boys are stronger than girls. Here is Sam Alito setting up the whole case

00:04:33.560 arguing with, or questioning, I suppose I should say, the ACLU attorney.

00:04:40.520 Is it not necessary for there to be, for equal protection purposes, if that is challenged under

00:04:46.420 the Equal Protection Clause, an understanding of what it means to be a boy or a girl or a man or a woman?

00:04:54.060 Yes, Your Honor.

00:04:54.540 And what is that definition? For equal protection purposes, what does it mean to be a boy or a girl

00:05:01.020 or a man or a woman?

00:05:02.580 Sorry, I misunderstood your question. I think that the underlying enactment, whatever it was,

00:05:06.100 the policy, the law, we'd have to have an understanding of how the state or the government

00:05:11.120 was understanding that term to figure out whether or not someone was excluded. We do not have a

00:05:16.020 definition for the court.

00:05:17.100 Well, how can you, how can a court determine whether there's discrimination on the basis

00:05:23.360 of sex without knowing what sex means for equal protection purposes?

00:05:28.980 I think here we just know, we basically know that the, that they've identified, pursuant to

00:05:34.600 their own statute, Lindsay qualifies as a birth sex male, and she's being excluded categorically 0.94

00:05:39.600 from the women's teams as the statute. So we're taking the statute's definitions as we find them

00:05:44.380 and we don't dispute them. 0.97

00:05:45.340 This is so pathetic. It's so, it's really pathetic for the ACLU attorney, 0.99

00:05:51.480 but it's so pathetic for our country that this is what the Supreme Court is talking about. 0.86

00:05:56.020 What is the definition of a boy or a girl? We are gonna collapse. I hope we're not. I hope Trump 0.97

00:06:04.640 and these last 10 years have given a little more juice to the American empire, but all empires fall.

00:06:09.980 And this is real decadent, depraved, darkened intellect stuff. This is pathetic. The Supreme 0.99

00:06:17.020 Court is supposed to be filled with the most intelligent, educated legal thinkers in the country

00:06:23.860 and really the world. And you got the justice asking, asking this lawyer, a lawyer arguing before

00:06:31.080 the Supreme Court. And it's not even just that they can't define boy or girl or man or woman.

00:06:37.220 That is bad enough. But listen to what Alito says. He says, okay, so the question is here for equal

00:06:42.760 protection, is there discrimination on the basis of sex? Yes. Okay. So that means that we need a

00:06:50.320 definition of sex of boy, girl, man, woman. Yes. Okay. So what's your definition, ACLU? Oh, we don't have

00:07:02.560 one. What? And Alito, you can almost hear the incredulity in his voice. He goes, first of all,

00:07:13.600 you just acknowledged that you need these definitions. And then you admit you don't have the definition,

00:07:19.380 but how can you determine if there is discrimination on the basis of sex if you don't have a definition

00:07:27.240 of sex? I don't like the ACLU. I think they're awful. But at the very least, I don't care if it's

00:07:36.520 the church of Satan that's arguing before the Supreme Court. You should have and are expected to

00:07:41.320 have the very best lawyer you can possibly have. And maybe this is the best lawyer they can possibly

00:07:46.940 have. And the problem is there's no argument they can make because the premise is ridiculous. 0.98

00:07:53.280 Unfortunately, we turn to another supposedly conservative justice on the court, Amy Barrett. 1.00

00:07:58.800 Amy Barrett, Catholic, conservative. And yet Amy Barrett uses the transgender language completely 0.95

00:08:07.380 unironically. You're just drawing the line based on biological sex and saying that trans girls can't 1.00

00:08:13.900 be on the girls' team in an age group that's prepubescent.

00:08:19.380 The record in this case does not support the notion that males lack an athletic advantage

00:08:23.600 at six years old. That's about as early as the science goes from what's in the record.

00:08:28.080 And even at that age, males have about a 5% athletic advantage over girls in most situations.

00:08:33.680 So here you have the conservative justice saying, what about the trans girls? What about...

00:08:39.160 Elsewhere, she uses the phrase cisgender. And she does it more than once. But then,

00:08:45.400 I am among the people on the right who really don't like this when conservatives use the trans

00:08:50.940 language. Because to refer to a trans boy, to refer to cisgender, which as Norm MacDonald said,

00:08:58.100 is just a word that's used to marginalize normal people. But to use these words is not merely to be

00:09:04.460 polite or to be nice. It's not even to play 5D chess, to try to grant them some rhetorical

00:09:11.520 grace so that we can really undermine their argument. To use those words is to grant the

00:09:17.460 argument. To suggest that there is such a thing as a trans girl grants that this is a type of girl 0.61

00:09:24.020 and that there's some other kind of girl. To use the phrase biological male, as many people on the

00:09:30.200 right did, is to grant that there's some kind of non-biological male, which there isn't.

00:09:34.120 To use the phrase cisgender is to grant that there is a transgender, which there isn't. 0.96

00:09:39.480 So it's really, really weird. Now, before we beat up on Amy Barrett too much, before we try to read

00:09:44.800 too much into the tea leaves of how she's going to vote, she then does go on to undermine the pro-trans 1.00

00:09:50.740 argument. Since trans boys can play on boys' teams, how would we say this discriminates on the basis of

00:10:00.380 transgender status when its effect really only runs towards trans girls and not trans boys?

00:10:07.080 We understand the point, and I think that might be relevant to, for example, Animas' point, right?

00:10:11.240 There were not a complete exclusion of transgender people. There was an exclusion of transgender women.

00:10:15.380 Okay, so this is an important distinction here, and this is lost in a lot of the commentary on this case.

00:10:20.480 If the argument is that these states are discriminating against transgenders,

00:10:28.020 Amy Barrett is saying, well, that's not true. They're only discriminating against trans,

00:10:34.360 it's hard to remember which way it goes, against trans girls, quote unquote. In other words, 0.69

00:10:39.580 boys who say that they're girls. But the states don't really discriminate in the other way.

00:10:44.840 If a boy wants to go, or if a girl rather wants to say that she's a boy and go join the boys' 0.98

00:10:49.880 wrestling team, one, she's not going to get picked. But two, she's going to lose every match because 1.00

00:10:53.840 girls are weaker than boys physically. But boys are stronger than girls physically. And so when 0.99

00:11:01.400 the boys compete against the girls in the sports, they're going to win most of the time. 0.64

00:11:05.340 So she says, the discrimination only affects one group of so-called trans people,

00:11:10.960 which means that the discrimination cannot be on the basis of transgender identity.

00:11:14.580 It's on the basis of something else, maybe on real sex, which is actually enshrined in our civil

00:11:26.060 rights law. The notion that we should discriminate on the basis of sex is weirdly kind of enshrined in

00:11:32.140 our civil rights law in order to stop discrimination on the basis of sex. In other words, you don't want

00:11:37.400 girls in, let's say, sports in high schools and colleges. You don't want girls to be discriminated 1.00

00:11:42.920 against on the basis of sex when it comes to sports and school. So we're going to set up girls' 1.00

00:11:48.440 sports leagues. But then when the pro-trans people come in and they say, we're discriminating on the

00:11:55.360 basis of gender identity, that's why we need boys to play in girls' sports. The conclusion must be

00:12:04.820 that you must discriminate on the basis of sex when it comes to who gets to play in which league

00:12:10.260 so that you're not discriminating on the basis of sex when it comes to whether or not girls are

00:12:15.560 allowed to have sports leagues. So it's a little bit confusing to say it, but it's not that difficult

00:12:21.840 to think about. You've got to pick either the trans or the girls. You have to pick one. You can 0.99

00:12:28.960 privilege one, and then you are necessarily discriminating against the other. And the question

00:12:33.500 is whether, which, if either, discrimination is just. And it would seem to most reasonable people,

00:12:39.800 it is just to discriminate against the trans-identifying people because that's not real.

00:12:46.760 So where are we going to end up here? Justice Thomas wraps it up for us. We'll get to that in a

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00:14:17.540 this little tidbit caught by Roger Severino says, what remedy are you seeking? That's the question

00:14:25.780 Clarence Thomas, good, nice, conservative, Catholic has for the ACLU lawyer. An innocuous-seeming

00:14:31.520 question. What remedy are you seeking? He says, look, you're looking at this case. The states have this

00:14:41.460 rule saying boys can't play in girls' sports. What are you seeking? He says, practically, you would get

00:14:47.540 different treatment based on sex. And so now the plaintiff comes in and he says, well, yeah, I mean,

00:14:58.380 the issue here is that trans boys or trans girls are not being allowed to fulfill their, I don't know,

00:15:07.940 the treatment and both social and medical that it accompanies their gender identity and said,

00:15:14.340 okay, well here, let's drill into a really specific case. A girl who identifies as a boy

00:15:22.100 would be allowed to get drugs to go through male puberty despite being a girl. That's what happens 1.00

00:15:28.240 when you're put on the cross-sex hormones. That means that girls who identify as boys would have a 0.80

00:15:35.360 right, a constitutional right, according to the gender ideologues, to get this testosterone. 1.00

00:15:42.240 But boys who identify as boys would not have a constitutional right to get the testosterone.

00:15:48.980 You see the brilliance of this very simple observation.

00:15:54.300 If a boy, and actually this relates to an interview, I just did an interview with this

00:15:58.860 looks max or clavicular who's been injecting himself with testosterone against his parents' wishes,

00:16:03.960 getting illegally on the internet since he was 14 years old. But that's actually a very telling

00:16:08.660 point. Because the girl has a right to be injected with the testosterone, but the boy does not. 0.94

00:16:18.000 If a boy were to do that, he'd be taking steroids or something. One, the doctor wouldn't do it. But two,

00:16:23.040 if he were caught doing this, they'd be cheating in the sports. Which is discrimination on the basis of

00:16:29.640 sex. Right? It's not on gender identity, but it is on sex. This is an argument other people have made,

00:16:38.020 but really nice to see Thomas bring it up here in the oral arguments. And then I know I said that

00:16:43.020 that was the end of the arguments. And I guess it is. But before we go, I just want you to hear,

00:16:48.940 not quite an argument, I just want you to hear Ketanji Jackson, the most recent left-wing justice,

00:16:54.260 babbling incoherently. You have the overarching classification. Everybody has to play on the

00:17:06.040 team that is the same as their sex at birth. But then you have a gender identity definition that

00:17:14.460 is operating within that, meaning a distinction, meaning that for cisgender girls, they can play

00:17:23.080 consistent with their gender identity. For transgender girls, they can't. 1.00

00:17:28.680 So I think that, okay. As to the part-

00:17:32.860 I love, I think we are all the West Virginia Solicitor General here, Michael Williams. I think

00:17:38.200 we're all, he goes, yeah, so you have, when you're a boy, but you're assigned it at birth,

00:17:45.520 but then, meaning you are a baby, but then later, meaning you're a toddler, you have a gender,

00:17:53.620 and there's a gender identity operating. And so meaning you have, I don't find me the nouns and

00:17:59.460 the verbs. Do they align? Do they, does this sentence scan? If I were in the first grade

00:18:04.960 diagramming sentences, does the, is this English? I don't know. This is the woman who couldn't define 1.00

00:18:10.660 what a woman is at her confirmation hearing. And then the Solicitor General goes, uh, okay. Um,

00:18:18.820 you can tell he's like trying to craft a sentence out of the wall of noise that just erupted from

00:18:25.660 Ketanji Jackson's mouth. Pretty sad. That woman, good grief, man. She has no place on the court. 0.86

00:18:33.200 And her defenders say, she has two degrees from Harvard. And you say, uh-huh. Yeah. I think

00:18:38.200 this is more about Harvard than it does about Ketanji because this lady doesn't understand 1.00

00:18:43.440 rudimentary concepts, not about the law, about reality, about language, about biology. It's,

00:18:52.820 that's the whole thing, the whole thing, man. I just, I know we've been culture warriors on the

00:18:59.020 transgender issue. You know, I'm, I'm the guy who gave the eradicate speech at CPAC. I'm, we have,

00:19:04.240 we've spoken about this a lot. It's the Daily Wire. You know, Matt put out the, what is a woman

00:19:08.560 movie? And we, I, we had to focus on it and it's a big political winner. And I hope the Democrats make

00:19:14.400 us focus on it more because we're going to win 57 states next election. But man, is this degrading?

00:19:20.360 This is so degrading. It's so degrading for our country that the left put us in this position.

00:19:27.620 It's so degrading. It's, it's an electoral win for us. So I guess we are where we are. You know,

00:19:33.260 you got to play the hand you're dealt, but this is so degrading that we have to do that.

00:19:38.780 Does not, it does not make one feel all that hopeful for the future of the country other than

00:19:43.340 most people reject it. Okay. Speaking of law enforcement and pretty obvious issues that most

00:19:49.160 people reject, you know, there's been all this talk about the, the awful, terrible, uh, ice raids

00:19:55.400 in Minneapolis. And then you had that woman who obstructed law enforcement, blocked traffic, 1.00

00:20:00.680 and then drove her SUV into a cop. And then she was shot in the face for it, which is very,

00:20:05.080 it's very sad that she did that, you know, it's sad for her and for her family. You heard that her

00:20:10.300 lesbian partner come out and scream, those guns have real bullets. Why do they have real bullets? 1.00

00:20:15.860 They didn't know that the guns have bullets in them. She says, this is my fault. I told her to come

00:20:20.120 out here and she told her to drive into the guy and drive, baby, drive, drive. And you just,

00:20:23.560 you just feel terrible for, for these people because of, well, because of the same reason

00:20:28.520 that we were just talking about with the Supreme court case, because it's so, they're so divorced

00:20:32.220 from reality and that they've allowed their sin, their, their, uh, intellects to become so darkened

00:20:37.700 that they don't, they don't know guns have bullets in them. And now we're seeing who ice is arresting

00:20:44.140 in Minneapolis. And they're actually sending more people to go, to go more agents, a thousand more

00:20:49.920 agents to go arrest these guys. You know who that woman Renee good forfeited her life for? 0.99

00:20:57.540 She forfeited her life for child abusers and drug dealers. Here we go. Ice is just releasing

00:21:03.140 the mugshot, alleged, alleged drug dealers and child abusers. They released the mugshots of some

00:21:08.280 of the people, 10 of the people that ice is arresting up there. They are alleged child molesters,

00:21:16.840 drug dealers, you know, pushing poison on kids. That's where, that's where the drugs go. That's

00:21:23.580 where it's the, the stereotype of the pusher standing by the playground to get a kid hooked.

00:21:29.520 That's who this woman woke up one day and said, you know, I'm going to drive into a cop. I'm 1.00

00:21:34.420 effectively going to commit suicide by cop. Maybe not intentionally. I'm going to abandon my kid 0.99

00:21:39.520 as a result of that. I'm going to break the law. Best case scenario for that woman. She didn't get 0.99

00:21:45.180 shot in the face and she'd end up in jail. But anyway, she's abandoning her kid. She's doing 1.00

00:21:50.340 reckless stuff. She's breaking the law for what? To stop law enforcement from arresting child rapists 1.00

00:22:00.260 and drug pet poison peddlers. And even the ones who didn't do that were breaking the law and in this

00:22:09.260 country illegally. It's so sad because in her mind, in the minds of these leftists who are out there

00:22:15.840 screeching and break, obstructing law enforcement, they're out there protecting, you know, the nice

00:22:21.700 abuela or whatever. There aren't that many abuelas getting arrested. There's some getting arrested. You 1.00

00:22:25.480 have to, they're here illegally, but that's not really who ICE is going after. They're not going

00:22:29.300 after abuela. And what's even sadder is you say, well, yes, you know, but look, our Lord,

00:22:36.220 our Lord gave his life for sinners, specifically for sinners, for all of us, but for sinners.

00:22:43.280 You say, yes, that's true. We should, we actually should extend grace even to really bad people.

00:22:48.800 We should pray for really bad people. We should, we should contribute to the common good. We should

00:22:53.960 sacrifice for our country, which in part means, you know, sacrificing for bad people.

00:22:58.400 But it's not good for these people to not be arrested. It's, I mean, this is what, this is

00:23:07.640 what Plato writes about in Gorgias. There's been a lot of ink of moral philosophy spilled over this

00:23:13.060 kind of question. Is it better or worse for the person committing bad acts, criminal acts to punish

00:23:19.800 them? Some, some people say, they say, well, it's good to let them off the hook. It's not good to let

00:23:25.580 child rapists and drug dealers off the hook. One, it's obviously bad for society, but two,

00:23:32.300 it's bad for them because they're continuing to destroy their own souls. They're continuing to,

00:23:39.480 as they do bad things, they are making their lives worse. And you have women in Minneapolis 1.00

00:23:48.120 who are sacrificing their lives to stop a child rapist from getting arrested. It's so perverse.

00:23:59.000 It's so perverse. Everyone is wrong here. Okay. What is this all really about? A

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00:25:54.340 What are the ICE protests about? I will allow a millennial leftist woman to explain. 1.00

00:26:01.240 You know one thing that hating men has trained me for? It's literally trained me for chasing

00:26:07.680 ICE cars off of my street. Five of them right now. Following down the neighborhood, honking,

00:26:13.540 blowing whistles, telling them to fuck off. All that rage that I have felt towards men is coming out. 1.00

00:26:23.020 I have been trained for this moment. I will follow you everywhere.

00:26:27.220 First thing I noticed, Mr. Davies, are you on the line?

00:26:31.480 Yes, I am.

00:26:32.020 Are you there? Did you notice something? You know, we did our investigative report,

00:26:36.160 our deep dive. We uncovered some really important facts. Do you notice anything about this video?

00:26:42.300 It is truly one of the most important discoveries that we've made on this show. And yes,

00:26:46.220 it is very prominently featured right in her septum. 0.94

00:26:48.960 There is a direct, scientifically proven, I assume peer-reviewed correlation between

00:26:58.440 leftist crazy behavior and women who have nose rings. And not even the side nose ring, 1.00

00:27:08.160 which can be kind of cute sometimes. The middle one, the septum, the bull, the demon one.

00:27:12.800 It's never turned out well. 100% of women, 100% of women who have the bull septum nose ring are 1.00

00:27:21.560 crazed and certainly politically on the left, which is not, it's not that all crazy people are 0.99

00:27:28.460 on the left, but all people who are firmly on the left are crazy. It's kind of like a square in a 0.97

00:27:33.400 rectangle. And what does she say? She affirms something that I've repeated on the show every

00:27:37.980 four days for years at this point, maybe? Liberalism comes down to three words and it's

00:27:44.680 screw you, dad. She says, something that hating men for so long has trained me in 0.97

00:27:50.760 is to go beat up ICE agents, go drive my SUV into ICE agents. This is the secret. I don't engage in a ton

00:28:00.120 of psychobabble, but this is what it's about. And there is actually a whole genre I wish we had,

00:28:06.980 that maybe in post-production, we can pull the images being generated of romance novels.

00:28:12.760 This is about, this is mid-millennial, elder millennial, younger Gen X women 0.81

00:28:18.240 fantasizing about big, strong guys ordering them around. That's what, there is deep stuff going on.

00:28:25.920 There was one I saw, Detained by Desire. It's one of these women at her window, 0.97

00:28:30.840 just really getting sassy with an ICE agent, just daring him to drag her out of the car.

00:28:36.980 This, that's what this is about. That's what it's all about. I hate men. Why do I hate men?

00:28:45.940 Because I hate my dad. Why do I hate my dad? Because I hate authority. Ultimately, I hate my

00:28:52.360 heavenly dad. That's what this comes down to. And I hate the moral strictures and the moral norms

00:28:58.040 that come with this. I hate the limitations that have been imposed on me, not only by my sex,

00:29:03.480 but by my human nature. And I seek maximum individual autonomy, a liberation, not merely

00:29:10.980 from unjust strictures, which we all seek, but not just, not liberation from sin, which we should

00:29:17.980 all seek, but not liberation from addiction and vice, which we should all seek, but liberation from

00:29:23.940 my very constituent parts, the things that make me who I am. Liberation, a deeply wicked liberation,

00:29:33.440 the kind of liberation that tends one toward assisted suicide. Liberation even from what makes

00:29:38.480 me me. Liberation from religion. Liberation from my child through abortion. Liberation from

00:29:43.520 my country through, I don't know, either fleeing the country or tearing down the government.

00:29:49.300 Tearing down the borders. That's what it's about. That's the secret. These women, 1.00

00:29:55.240 they got problems and they need husbands is what they need. And they need good husbands. They can't 1.00

00:30:00.660 have, you know, schmucky, loser husbands. So it's not that men totally get off the hook, 0.99

00:30:04.800 but they need husbands. It is a, it is a them problem primarily. You know, men, men have other

00:30:11.180 problems. Men got to, you know, they got to get their act together, but this is a, this is a woman 1.00

00:30:15.500 problem. For sure. It's not, ICE should just keep doing, well, that's what they're doing.

00:30:21.240 The administration is sending another thousand agents. They need, these protests are like 3%

00:30:26.280 about the illegal aliens. I'm increasingly convinced it's not even really about Abuela.

00:30:33.000 There's other stuff going on. There's other stuff going on here. Okay. That woman persuaded me.

00:30:38.540 Speaking of persuasion, sad story, though not unexpected. Scott Adams has died. Scott, and actually,

00:30:44.740 wow, coincidental, providential. I was just talking about assisted suicide. And this comes

00:30:49.840 into the story because Scott Adams did not kill himself. Jeffrey Epstein probably didn't kill

00:30:56.700 himself. And Scott Adams didn't kill himself. Scott Adams was the cartoonist behind Dilbert,

00:31:02.220 a huge phenomenon. I actually got nostalgic. I was going through old Dilbert comic strips yesterday.

00:31:07.760 I don't know. It reminds me being at my father's house or something. I don't know. It reminds me

00:31:10.580 being a kid. And I was kind of nostalgic. I said, this was such a phenomenon. And then he parlayed

00:31:17.100 that into a career as a writer of advice, self-help, persuasion. He became a really incisive political

00:31:25.440 commentator, one of the first guys to point out that Trump was not just like a big dummy saying big

00:31:30.640 dummy things, but that Trump was actually extremely persuasive. And this really tuned me into Scott

00:31:36.620 Adams. Because early on, I too thought, you know, this Trump, everyone's saying he's dumb or loose 0.99

00:31:43.620 with his language. But I think he's got real poetic diction. I think he's using his language very 0.97

00:31:48.100 carefully. And Scott could explain in much more precise terms, or much more expansive terms, I

00:31:54.040 should say, what was really going on. So anyway, he was just a really delightful figure in American

00:32:00.860 public life. And he didn't kill himself. But he thought about it. And in fact, he talked about this

00:32:06.680 on his show.

00:32:09.000 In California, you have the right to end your own existence. If you have a terminal illness,

00:32:18.140 you get a couple of doctors to certify it and all that. And I was in that situation.

00:32:25.080 Meaning that I'm officially terminal. I've got two doctors to certify it. I've done the paperwork.

00:32:32.920 I've even ordered the medicine that you eventually drink to end your life. I had sort of internally

00:32:44.940 planned, you know, but wasn't telling the world that I needed to get past my stepdaughter's wedding

00:32:51.720 and reception. And then to end my life, guess when? Basically today. Today was the day.

00:33:02.940 I was planning literally to take my own life today.

00:33:08.160 That was back in June. He died yesterday. So obviously, he didn't take his own life.

00:33:14.520 And you can hear him laugh even. He says, and I got the medicine. Not medicine. If something kills

00:33:20.100 you, it's not medicine. But he was for it. Not only was he open to assisted suicide,

00:33:28.160 he was vociferously in favor of it. Scott Adams, this is going back to 2013. After his dad died,

00:33:35.220 I guess his dad was in a lot of pain as he was dying. Scott Adams took to the Libertarian magazine

00:33:39.320 Reason to defend assisted suicide and invade against those who oppose it politically. He said,

00:33:45.860 I'm okay with any citizen who opposes doctor-assisted suicide on moral or practical grounds. 0.98

00:33:50.300 But if you have acted on that thought, such as basing a vote on it, I would like you to die a slow, 1.00

00:33:55.820 horrible death too. He says, look, you can have your own moral reservations, but don't do anything 0.98

00:34:00.700 about it. Don't actually act on it. We need assisted suicide. He's just coming off this

00:34:07.360 difficult situation, which many people have faced, watching a loved one die.

00:34:12.880 And he came to, at that time, the wrong conclusion. He said, we need assisted suicide.

00:34:18.880 You and the government are accomplices in the torturing of my father. There's a good chance 0.82

00:34:22.320 you'll someday be accomplices in torturing me to death too. Wow. And then he changed his mind. 0.91

00:34:29.960 Why? Well, as he wrote, and as he said in interviews with guys like Greg Gutfeld and others,

00:34:37.520 he said, it was only long after he had committed to the process of killing himself with the approval,

00:34:45.040 with the scandalous, evil approval of doctors and the government, my commentary, not his words,

00:34:51.020 that he realized it would be more complicated. It's not like you just take the pill and then the

00:34:54.700 lights go off. If you don't vomit the poison up right away, it could put you to sleep.

00:34:59.960 And then that process of your dying could take hours. And then your poor family

00:35:04.080 not only has to endure the scandal of watching a loved one kill himself,

00:35:08.900 the sort of thing that is much more likely to persuade the people, the loved ones around you

00:35:16.540 to kill themselves. Suicide is a social contagion, long documented. But they have to keep checking

00:35:22.840 to see, is he dead yet? Is he dead yet? Is he dead yet? That process itself is a kind of a torture.

00:35:26.620 Torture. You're transferring the supposed torture from the person dying, which is, you know,

00:35:31.980 we all die, to the loved ones because of a personal choice. The process is described as

00:35:37.960 being akin to drowning. And what Scott Adams then said to Drew Pinsky, Dr. Drew, and Greg Gutfeld

00:35:45.280 is, quote, it's not as cool as I thought it would be, which is kind of delightful, happy Scott

00:35:52.540 Adams' diction. And the amazing irony, if you followed Scott's position on assisted suicide

00:36:00.860 for over 10 years now, is instead of killing himself, instead of scandalizing the whole world

00:36:09.160 that loved him, Scott offered us one of the best examples of dying well that we have seen in our

00:36:18.240 lifetimes. That's an amazing irony in the grand scope of Providence. He was calm. He was loving.

00:36:27.940 He did not hide it. You know, we hide away our dead and dying. We stick them in centers and try to

00:36:33.320 forget about them. We don't like to see death. We don't really do long funerals anymore. We don't

00:36:38.720 do long wakes. We don't, we do, we try to get people in the ground as fast as possible, get it out of

00:36:42.740 our heads. Maybe we do a celebration of life later on, but we don't like, we don't, we don't like to

00:36:47.900 think about death. We want death to be fast. In the Middle Ages, a good death was understood as being

00:36:52.680 one where you knew you were dying. You could get your affairs in order. You could think about what

00:36:57.360 happens next. This is what Scott did. Scott said, look, I'm not a believer, but I'm persuaded by

00:37:03.280 Pascal's wager and my loving Christian friends really, you know, have, they've persuaded me.

00:37:08.460 So you know what I'm going to say? I don't look, I I'm being honest. I'm not going to lie. I'm not

00:37:11.640 going to lie to you, God. I don't really believe, but I accept Jesus. I accept Jesus. I want to spend

00:37:17.620 eternity with Jesus. I want to believe is what he said. I want to believe. Okay. And so, and if I wake up

00:37:24.000 in heaven, that'll convince me. And there are all ways to parse the, the theology of that.

00:37:32.560 However, something that gives me some hope is it's very childlike. It's a very childlike approach to

00:37:37.880 say, look, I'm, I'm dying. I'm not invading against you. A lot of people, as they die, they

00:37:41.140 invade against God from the supposed unfairness of our death. And he says, look, we're all going to die.

00:37:46.120 This is what happens. This is what I deserve for being a human. You know, that's what we get.

00:37:49.640 But, uh, but, uh, I want to believe I've never been a believer, but I'm not going to pretend to

00:37:54.040 be one now. Exactly. But I want, I'm persuaded that I'd like to spend eternity with Jesus. I'd like

00:38:00.400 to, I'd like to, isn't that childlike? You know, and our Lord tells us you have to be like a child

00:38:05.040 to enter the kingdom of heaven, not childish. Childish is when you have all the bad characteristics of kids

00:38:10.300 when you're an overgrown little bratty kid. That's what you're seeing in the protests in the streets.

00:38:16.600 Childlike is good. We all should be childlike. It's having a humility. It's having a kind of an innocence.

00:38:23.600 Looking at the world with awe and wonder. And he did that. And, and he, he, he could have, he could

00:38:31.560 have scandalized the world. He could have killed himself. And a lot of people who look up to him as 0.98

00:38:35.660 their internet dad would have been scandalized by that. And instead he gave a really exemplary

00:38:42.140 show in, in dying. Well, beautiful thing. So we should all pray for him. We should all pray for

00:38:48.700 his soul. How did the New York times react? How did the Boston globe react? The wait is almost over

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00:39:25.020 comment also pertains to religion and pretend, you know, and pertains to ways religion goes really

00:39:31.740 wrong and ways it can go really right. Wow. This is a providentially ordered show. I didn't totally do

00:39:35.840 this intentionally. This is from Mrs. Old MacDonald who says, when I left witchcraft and converted to

00:39:41.100 Catholicism, I realized everything I had been practicing was a direct inversion of every aspect 1.00

00:39:46.120 of true religion. Yeah, that's how it works because the devil doesn't create. So it's always just a

00:39:51.740 perversion or an inversion of, of the real thing, reality, which is made by God. You see that in

00:39:59.100 politics, you know, liberalism especially is, is just a, a very serious perversion, if not an

00:40:05.660 outright inversion of, of Christianity, of Christendom. So it goes because they can't make 0.99

00:40:12.180 anything. Folks tonight, very excited. We are back with another live taping of bar fight.

00:40:19.300 We have two shows is DW wants to save on production costs. The first show is 6 PM. I take the stage with

00:40:25.200 featured libs, Oliver Niehaus and the soy pill. Then at 8 PM, things get spicy with Adam Mockler

00:40:30.720 and Lauren Peretra. Two debates, two time slots, one night, free drinks. If you like watching people

00:40:35.720 actually argue instead of just nodding politely at each other or screaming and biting each other's

00:40:41.580 heads off. If that is the case, you got to come check out bar fight. If you haven't seen a bar fight

00:40:46.580 episode, take a look at what to expect. No, I thought I'm sick and tired of you. Let me finish.

00:40:53.420 You had a monologue already. I tell people that Michael Knowles is my internet dad.

00:40:57.540 Stop it. We've got a bar full of people and you want us to debate HOAs. 0.77

00:41:01.680 Cause this is America!

00:41:08.140 Welcome to bar fight. Tonight I'm joined by two libs. 1.00

00:41:13.000 That's my, that's my case. I think it's a pretty good one.

00:41:15.540 My first guest, that is Zina Ikeme.

00:41:18.440 You've been calling me a lib this whole time. I hate to break it to you. It might be a little bit

00:41:22.120 worse than that. Oh, just be consistent. I've been very consistent. Luke gets to finish his

00:41:26.440 point. I think this bell is rigged. My second guest, one of the top names in online liberal

00:41:30.940 commentary today, Luke Beasley. We'll see you tonight at bar fight. Make sure you RSVP by

00:41:42.520 clicking the link in the description. How did the New York times react to Scott Adams's death?

00:41:48.000 Scott Adams, whose comic strip Dilbert was a sensation until he made racist comments on his

00:41:56.340 podcast, has died at 68. Boston Globe, almost the same thing. Racist, disgraced, terrible, evil,

00:42:04.320 awful, cartoonist. Scott Adams dies. This is what they do. I mean, look, we're talking about the 1.00

00:42:10.800 political left, which celebrated the assassination of Charlie Kirk. So yeah, when a prominent right

00:42:18.740 winger dies, they're going to find some way to attack him, even in his death. They're going to

00:42:23.740 do it to Charlie. They're going to do it to anybody. They'll celebrate your death. That's a hard thing.

00:42:30.120 That's a hard thing to conclude. It's deeply unpleasant if you like to think, you know, look,

00:42:35.500 we're all one country and we have no enemies, only opponents. And you know, it's sad to conclude

00:42:39.960 that they'll celebrate your death. When that lady in Minneapolis died, deservedly, because she drove

00:42:47.840 her car into a cop, you really didn't see people on the right celebrating. What you heard was what

00:42:55.960 you heard on my show, and you heard that from most people, I think, on the right, which is, this is

00:43:00.020 very sad. The cop was entirely in the right. The lady was entirely in the wrong. She is entirely 0.94

00:43:04.980 responsible for her own death. I wouldn't have changed a thing if I were the cop, but it's sad.

00:43:11.420 It's sad that this happened for this woman's family. It's sad for her. You don't hear that in

00:43:16.640 the other direction. You hear, I hope this person dies. I hope he, I hope Trump dies. I hope that's 1.00

00:43:21.780 good that Charlie died. It's good. It's good, good, good, good, good, good. If only that guy hadn't

00:43:25.900 missed him, Butler, Pennsylvania. That's what you hear. And this is bad. It's not just anecdotal.

00:43:29.020 This is backed up by social scientific surveys. The left supporting political violence much more,

00:43:34.140 all the rest of it. Boston Globe did the same thing. Just a little correction here, though.

00:43:39.100 What did Scott Adams say? The one thing, he endorsed Trump. That was really what was

00:43:44.160 unforgivable. But the one thing that Scott Adams said that was beyond the pale, that led to the

00:43:49.260 cancellation of Dilbert and newspapers and all the rest, he was reading a survey, a social scientific

00:43:54.960 survey, which showed that about half of black people did not agree with the statement, it's okay 1.00

00:44:01.540 to be white. That was, now, I haven't looked at that survey. I haven't read. I'm just, I'm just

00:44:07.300 telling you what he said. And his conclusion from that was, hold on, man, if half of this group of

00:44:13.080 people, if half of any group of people doesn't think it's okay for me to be a white person, just okay

00:44:18.960 to, like, be a white person, then I don't want to be near those people. That's all he said. That was

00:44:24.760 his comment. I guess it's provocative. I guess it's spicy. I guess it's based on underlying social

00:44:30.500 scientific data, which could be disputed, I guess, maybe. I don't know. But that's all he said

00:44:35.760 for that, which I think, you know, if you, if you were kind of neutral about which group was which,

00:44:43.720 and if you substituted them out, and I think everyone would basically agree with, for that,

00:44:49.560 it's, yeah, racist cartoonist is dead. Yeah, read all about it. Yeah, that awful racist is dead.

00:44:59.560 That's what they do? I don't think so. I don't think that sums up Scott Adams' life. But then 0.99

00:45:05.620 again, I don't believe most of what I read in the New York Times. Okay. Speaking of journalism,

00:45:09.480 before we go, pretty crazy story. James O'Keefe has just nabbed in another undercover investigation

00:45:19.000 a U.S. Secret Service agent spilling security info about the vice president.

00:45:26.840 Can I see your badge again with your photo? You're so cute.

00:45:34.700 A current Secret Service agent on vice president J.D. Vance's security detail.

00:45:39.700 When he's like walking, like, where are you?

00:45:42.700 We'll have a lease, a middle of the bed, and...

00:45:45.700 ...gives away vital, high-level security information to our undercover journalists.

00:45:51.080 We have f***ing different shifts. We have a f***ing shift, a f***ing shift, a f***ing shift. 0.98

00:45:56.940 ...tells her about detailed future travel plans for the vice president, 0.97

00:46:00.940 and even sends her pictures with location metadata revealing where the president's convoy was located,

00:46:06.620 potentially violating both the Secret Service NDA and United States federal law.

00:46:11.520 Tomás is fully aware of this.

00:46:13.280 Quote, I signed paperwork, so if I don't have to get out information, I never do, otherwise I get in trouble.

00:46:20.760 You really have to stand in awe of the lack of self-awareness.

00:46:24.320 There ain't no secret room, secret room about what we do.

00:46:26.960 Tomás Escado also reveals that he voted for Biden, and that he hates Trump and Vance's immigration policies.

00:46:34.140 Did you vote for Biden?

00:46:35.480 Yes, I did actually.

00:46:36.840 What do you think about, like, all the ICE stuff going on?

00:46:40.160 Yeah, I do know.

00:46:41.320 Yeah.

00:46:41.800 The employee in Texas, I shouldn't be employed.

00:46:45.580 Wow, man, this is bad.

00:46:47.680 Now, sometimes James, look, I like James O'Keefe a lot.

00:46:52.120 Sometimes he oversells the significance of the undercover stories.

00:46:55.800 A lot of times, what he gets is totally explosive.

00:47:00.160 This is in the explosive category.

00:47:02.600 This is crazy.

00:47:05.720 Okay, this is, I'm not being sensationalist here.

00:47:09.860 I'm not just carrying water for James because I like him.

00:47:12.680 This is crazy. 0.67

00:47:15.640 You had a president of the United States come within one-twentieth of an inch of anger, his brain's blown out.

00:47:21.240 Then there was another assassination attempt on him shortly thereafter.

00:47:24.560 You have people already saying J.D. Vance, as the presumptive 28 nominee, is worse, actually, than Trump.

00:47:31.880 And you got a Secret Service agent just giving out these kinds of details, giving out photos with metadata, giving out timing, location, to random chicks on dates.

00:47:42.380 People are going to focus on the partisan aspect here.

00:47:44.960 They're going to say, this guy voted for Biden.

00:47:46.280 We need to root out all the Democrats in the Secret Service.

00:47:48.900 First of all, there are Democrats in the Secret Service.

00:47:51.120 It's a police force.

00:47:52.780 You're not going to discriminate exactly based on partisanship.

00:47:57.120 In my experience, I know a number of guys in the Secret Service.

00:48:00.300 In my experience, most of the guys in the Secret Service tend to be on the other side of the aisle.

00:48:05.760 And we don't want them all to get fired when there's a Democrat in charge.

00:48:08.900 I mean, then there wouldn't be a Secret Service, actually.

00:48:11.260 But I don't think this is partisan, really.

00:48:15.560 I'm not even sure I believe that he voted for Biden.

00:48:17.620 He might just be trying to impress this girl.

00:48:19.760 Sometimes guys, I don't know, it's been a while since I've been in the dating pool.

00:48:23.300 But sometimes guys, they'll kind of downplay their right-wing politics if they're trying to riz up some lib chick.

00:48:30.120 It's not a good idea in the long run, but it happens.

00:48:32.380 Because the real issue here is not partisanship or ideology, it's competence.

00:48:38.260 It's actually what we were talking about at the very top of the show.

00:48:42.660 The trans case at the Supreme Court is really embarrassing because of how crazy the ideology is. 1.00

00:48:50.880 But it's also embarrassing because it's just so degrading.

00:48:53.920 It's degrading to have someone like Ketanji Jackson on the Supreme Court, someone who can't define what a woman is.

00:48:59.480 It's degrading for Harvard University that she has two degrees from there.

00:49:04.040 It's degrading that this is the kind of thing we're talking about.

00:49:09.340 It's degrading that the ACLU attorney can't anticipate the most obvious questions coming from the conservative justices.

00:49:18.720 It's degrading that the Secret Service would make such an egregious error, an extremely dangerous error, an error that could imperil the life of the vice president.

00:49:31.280 But it's, we tend to think of politics and whether or not America will succeed in the future or fail in purely ideological terms.

00:49:43.940 We just need to make sure that the right-wingers get in there, not the left-wingers.

00:49:47.880 That's important.

00:49:48.900 That is very important.

00:49:49.880 But there's another, there's another axis.

00:49:54.020 You have the ideological axis, and then you've got the competence axis.

00:49:59.020 And it doesn't matter if you have people with the perfect ideology or political priors.

00:50:05.300 If they're not able to do the job, if they're like big dummies who don't have any skills, you're going to fail as a country.

00:50:14.300 We need competence. 0.98

00:50:16.440 This is just completely unacceptable.

00:50:20.140 Especially right now, the country is too volatile.

00:50:22.980 We feel like we're on the brink of a civil war.

00:50:25.380 We are too volatile for this kind of incompetence from any law enforcement agency, certainly one that is tasked with protecting the president and the vice president.

00:50:34.840 Okay, today is work from home Wednesday.

00:50:38.400 I've redone woke Wednesday.

00:50:39.920 I hate woke Wednesday.

00:50:41.460 Today is work from home Wednesday.

00:50:43.180 It's the only kind of work from home I like.

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00:50:52.420 All of this is an illusion.

00:51:08.220 An echo of a voice that has died.

00:51:12.660 And soon that echo will cease.

00:51:14.140 They say he was a king in Dovid, the son of a princess of lost Atlantis.

00:51:38.580 They say the future and the past are known to him.

00:51:44.400 That the fire and the wind tell him their secrets.

00:51:47.960 That the magic of the hillfolk and druids come forth at his easy command.

00:51:54.020 They say he slew hundreds.

00:51:57.880 Hundreds.

00:51:58.700 Do you hear?

00:51:59.680 That the world burned and trembled at his wrath.

00:52:02.700 The Merlin died long before you and I were born.

00:52:12.080 Merlin Emrys has returned to the land of the living.

00:52:17.920 Fortigan is gone.

00:52:19.660 Rome is gone.

00:52:21.520 The Saxon is here. 0.76

00:52:22.920 Saxon Hengist has assembled the greatest war host ever seen in the Island of the Mighty. 0.99

00:52:28.840 And before the summer is through, he means to take the throne.

00:52:33.400 And he will have it.

00:52:34.900 If we are too busy squabbling amongst ourselves to take up arms against him.

00:52:39.820 Here is your hope.

00:52:41.340 A king will arise to hold all Britain in his hand.

00:52:45.220 A high king.

00:52:46.400 He will be the wonder of the world.

00:52:47.680 To a future of peace.

00:52:56.060 There will be no peace in these lands till we are all dust.

00:52:59.840 Men of the Island of the Mighty.

00:53:02.700 You stand together.

00:53:05.000 You stand as Britons.

00:53:08.200 You stand as one.

00:53:09.520 Get out of the ground!

00:53:12.160 Great darkness is falling upon this land.

00:53:14.500 These brothers are our only hope to stand against it.

00:53:20.640 Not our only hope.

00:53:23.460 They say Merlin slew 17 men with his own hands.

00:53:27.620 I could say he slew 500.

00:53:31.780 No man is capable of such a thing.

00:53:34.700 No mortal man.

00:53:35.540 No what's true to you.

00:53:36.300 No man is capable of such a thing.

00:53:41.120 No one has to be abee. 0.51

00:53:41.580 No.

00:53:41.980 I'm going to be a baseball player too.

00:53:42.460 No mate. 0.97

00:53:44.200 Let's be a matter of surprise.

00:53:45.420 Love me.

00:53:46.860 Love you.

00:53:47.580 Love you.

00:53:48.300 Love you.

00:53:49.200 Love you.

00:53:49.620 Love you.

00:53:49.900 Love you.

00:53:50.660 Love you.

00:53:53.680 Love you.

00:53:54.780 Love you.

00:54:03.220 Love you.

00:54:04.160 Love you.

00:54:04.560 Love you for money.

The Michael Knowles Show - January 14, 2026

Ep. 1890 - Will The Supreme Court Finally END Transgenderism？

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