Ep. 1890 - Will The Supreme Court Finally END Transgenderism？
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The right just received a massive political gift. It happened yesterday at the Supreme Court, and the gift all comes down to the left's inability to give up transgenderism. The justices heard two cases over letting boys compete in girls' sports. It was just as goofy as every other debate that we have ever heard over transgenderism and the oral arguments were in fact heard by the very justice who infamously could not define what a woman is during her confirmation hearings.
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The right just received a massive political gift. It happened yesterday at the Supreme Court,
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and the gift all comes down to the left's inability to give up transgenderism.
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The justices heard two cases over letting boys compete in girls sports.
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It was just as goofy as every other debate that we have ever heard over transgenderism,
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and the oral arguments were in fact heard by the very justice who infamously could not define what
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a woman is during her confirmation hearings. We will get into the oral arguments. First,
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though, I want to make a little admission, okay? As a right-wing podcaster, author, communicator,
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broadcaster, campaigner, but a card-carrying true red Republican and conservative.
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I'm sick of the transgender thing. It's ridiculous. Both the ideology and the debate
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are ridiculous. It is degrading that we as a nation have to talk about this. It is probably
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a harbinger of our imperial collapse. It is the clearest sign of a decadent society and a darkened
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intellect that we have ever experienced as a country. And yet, Odi et Amo, I hate and I love,
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this issue is the greatest gift the Democrats could give to Republicans.
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It is the issue on which most Americans think that the libs are the craziest.
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At a time when Democrats could try to run on healthcare, or they could cook up some manipulative
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narrative on the ice raids, like we're seeing in Minneapolis, or when they could focus on literally
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anything else other than transgenderism. They return, like Jake Gyllenhaal to Heath Ledger
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on Brokeback Mountain. They return right back to the trans thing, because it is the tragic culmination
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and the most likely downfall of their false ideology. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.
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these delightful little cases. Little V. Hecox and West Virginia versus BPJ. Oral arguments yesterday
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at the Supreme Court involving two trans-identifying students. The cases focus on whether or not states
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can ban boys from playing in girls' sports and girls from playing in boys' sports, though that one
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doesn't really matter because boys are stronger than girls. Here is Sam Alito setting up the whole case
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arguing with, or questioning, I suppose I should say, the ACLU attorney.
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Is it not necessary for there to be, for equal protection purposes, if that is challenged under
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the Equal Protection Clause, an understanding of what it means to be a boy or a girl or a man or a woman?
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And what is that definition? For equal protection purposes, what does it mean to be a boy or a girl
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Sorry, I misunderstood your question. I think that the underlying enactment, whatever it was,
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the policy, the law, we'd have to have an understanding of how the state or the government
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was understanding that term to figure out whether or not someone was excluded. We do not have a
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Well, how can you, how can a court determine whether there's discrimination on the basis
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of sex without knowing what sex means for equal protection purposes?
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I think here we just know, we basically know that the, that they've identified, pursuant to
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their own statute, Lindsay qualifies as a birth sex male, and she's being excluded categorically
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from the women's teams as the statute. So we're taking the statute's definitions as we find them
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This is so pathetic. It's so, it's really pathetic for the ACLU attorney,
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but it's so pathetic for our country that this is what the Supreme Court is talking about.
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What is the definition of a boy or a girl? We are gonna collapse. I hope we're not. I hope Trump
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and these last 10 years have given a little more juice to the American empire, but all empires fall.
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And this is real decadent, depraved, darkened intellect stuff. This is pathetic. The Supreme
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Court is supposed to be filled with the most intelligent, educated legal thinkers in the country
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and really the world. And you got the justice asking, asking this lawyer, a lawyer arguing before
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the Supreme Court. And it's not even just that they can't define boy or girl or man or woman.
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That is bad enough. But listen to what Alito says. He says, okay, so the question is here for equal
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protection, is there discrimination on the basis of sex? Yes. Okay. So that means that we need a
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definition of sex of boy, girl, man, woman. Yes. Okay. So what's your definition, ACLU? Oh, we don't have
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one. What? And Alito, you can almost hear the incredulity in his voice. He goes, first of all,
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you just acknowledged that you need these definitions. And then you admit you don't have the definition,
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but how can you determine if there is discrimination on the basis of sex if you don't have a definition
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of sex? I don't like the ACLU. I think they're awful. But at the very least, I don't care if it's
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the church of Satan that's arguing before the Supreme Court. You should have and are expected to
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have the very best lawyer you can possibly have. And maybe this is the best lawyer they can possibly
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have. And the problem is there's no argument they can make because the premise is ridiculous.
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Unfortunately, we turn to another supposedly conservative justice on the court, Amy Barrett.
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Amy Barrett, Catholic, conservative. And yet Amy Barrett uses the transgender language completely
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unironically. You're just drawing the line based on biological sex and saying that trans girls can't
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be on the girls' team in an age group that's prepubescent.
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The record in this case does not support the notion that males lack an athletic advantage
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at six years old. That's about as early as the science goes from what's in the record.
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And even at that age, males have about a 5% athletic advantage over girls in most situations.
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So here you have the conservative justice saying, what about the trans girls? What about...
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Elsewhere, she uses the phrase cisgender. And she does it more than once. But then,
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I am among the people on the right who really don't like this when conservatives use the trans
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language. Because to refer to a trans boy, to refer to cisgender, which as Norm MacDonald said,
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is just a word that's used to marginalize normal people. But to use these words is not merely to be
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polite or to be nice. It's not even to play 5D chess, to try to grant them some rhetorical
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grace so that we can really undermine their argument. To use those words is to grant the
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argument. To suggest that there is such a thing as a trans girl grants that this is a type of girl
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and that there's some other kind of girl. To use the phrase biological male, as many people on the
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right did, is to grant that there's some kind of non-biological male, which there isn't.
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To use the phrase cisgender is to grant that there is a transgender, which there isn't.
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So it's really, really weird. Now, before we beat up on Amy Barrett too much, before we try to read
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too much into the tea leaves of how she's going to vote, she then does go on to undermine the pro-trans
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argument. Since trans boys can play on boys' teams, how would we say this discriminates on the basis of
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transgender status when its effect really only runs towards trans girls and not trans boys?
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We understand the point, and I think that might be relevant to, for example, Animas' point, right?
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There were not a complete exclusion of transgender people. There was an exclusion of transgender women.
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Okay, so this is an important distinction here, and this is lost in a lot of the commentary on this case.
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If the argument is that these states are discriminating against transgenders,
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Amy Barrett is saying, well, that's not true. They're only discriminating against trans,
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it's hard to remember which way it goes, against trans girls, quote unquote. In other words,
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boys who say that they're girls. But the states don't really discriminate in the other way.
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If a boy wants to go, or if a girl rather wants to say that she's a boy and go join the boys'
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wrestling team, one, she's not going to get picked. But two, she's going to lose every match because
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girls are weaker than boys physically. But boys are stronger than girls physically. And so when
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the boys compete against the girls in the sports, they're going to win most of the time.
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So she says, the discrimination only affects one group of so-called trans people,
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which means that the discrimination cannot be on the basis of transgender identity.
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It's on the basis of something else, maybe on real sex, which is actually enshrined in our civil
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rights law. The notion that we should discriminate on the basis of sex is weirdly kind of enshrined in
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our civil rights law in order to stop discrimination on the basis of sex. In other words, you don't want
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girls in, let's say, sports in high schools and colleges. You don't want girls to be discriminated
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against on the basis of sex when it comes to sports and school. So we're going to set up girls'
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sports leagues. But then when the pro-trans people come in and they say, we're discriminating on the
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basis of gender identity, that's why we need boys to play in girls' sports. The conclusion must be
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that you must discriminate on the basis of sex when it comes to who gets to play in which league
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so that you're not discriminating on the basis of sex when it comes to whether or not girls are
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allowed to have sports leagues. So it's a little bit confusing to say it, but it's not that difficult
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to think about. You've got to pick either the trans or the girls. You have to pick one. You can
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privilege one, and then you are necessarily discriminating against the other. And the question
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is whether, which, if either, discrimination is just. And it would seem to most reasonable people,
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it is just to discriminate against the trans-identifying people because that's not real.
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this little tidbit caught by Roger Severino says, what remedy are you seeking? That's the question
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Clarence Thomas, good, nice, conservative, Catholic has for the ACLU lawyer. An innocuous-seeming
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question. What remedy are you seeking? He says, look, you're looking at this case. The states have this
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rule saying boys can't play in girls' sports. What are you seeking? He says, practically, you would get
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different treatment based on sex. And so now the plaintiff comes in and he says, well, yeah, I mean,
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the issue here is that trans boys or trans girls are not being allowed to fulfill their, I don't know,
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the treatment and both social and medical that it accompanies their gender identity and said,
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okay, well here, let's drill into a really specific case. A girl who identifies as a boy
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would be allowed to get drugs to go through male puberty despite being a girl. That's what happens
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when you're put on the cross-sex hormones. That means that girls who identify as boys would have a
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right, a constitutional right, according to the gender ideologues, to get this testosterone.
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But boys who identify as boys would not have a constitutional right to get the testosterone.
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You see the brilliance of this very simple observation.
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If a boy, and actually this relates to an interview, I just did an interview with this
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looks max or clavicular who's been injecting himself with testosterone against his parents' wishes,
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getting illegally on the internet since he was 14 years old. But that's actually a very telling
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point. Because the girl has a right to be injected with the testosterone, but the boy does not.
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If a boy were to do that, he'd be taking steroids or something. One, the doctor wouldn't do it. But two,
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if he were caught doing this, they'd be cheating in the sports. Which is discrimination on the basis of
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sex. Right? It's not on gender identity, but it is on sex. This is an argument other people have made,
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but really nice to see Thomas bring it up here in the oral arguments. And then I know I said that
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that was the end of the arguments. And I guess it is. But before we go, I just want you to hear,
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not quite an argument, I just want you to hear Ketanji Jackson, the most recent left-wing justice,
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babbling incoherently. You have the overarching classification. Everybody has to play on the
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team that is the same as their sex at birth. But then you have a gender identity definition that
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is operating within that, meaning a distinction, meaning that for cisgender girls, they can play
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consistent with their gender identity. For transgender girls, they can't.
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I love, I think we are all the West Virginia Solicitor General here, Michael Williams. I think
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we're all, he goes, yeah, so you have, when you're a boy, but you're assigned it at birth,
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but then, meaning you are a baby, but then later, meaning you're a toddler, you have a gender,
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and there's a gender identity operating. And so meaning you have, I don't find me the nouns and
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the verbs. Do they align? Do they, does this sentence scan? If I were in the first grade
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diagramming sentences, does the, is this English? I don't know. This is the woman who couldn't define
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what a woman is at her confirmation hearing. And then the Solicitor General goes, uh, okay. Um,
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you can tell he's like trying to craft a sentence out of the wall of noise that just erupted from
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Ketanji Jackson's mouth. Pretty sad. That woman, good grief, man. She has no place on the court.
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And her defenders say, she has two degrees from Harvard. And you say, uh-huh. Yeah. I think
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this is more about Harvard than it does about Ketanji because this lady doesn't understand
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rudimentary concepts, not about the law, about reality, about language, about biology. It's,
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that's the whole thing, the whole thing, man. I just, I know we've been culture warriors on the
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transgender issue. You know, I'm, I'm the guy who gave the eradicate speech at CPAC. I'm, we have,
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we've spoken about this a lot. It's the Daily Wire. You know, Matt put out the, what is a woman
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movie? And we, I, we had to focus on it and it's a big political winner. And I hope the Democrats make
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us focus on it more because we're going to win 57 states next election. But man, is this degrading?
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This is so degrading. It's so degrading for our country that the left put us in this position.
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It's so degrading. It's, it's an electoral win for us. So I guess we are where we are. You know,
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you got to play the hand you're dealt, but this is so degrading that we have to do that.
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Does not, it does not make one feel all that hopeful for the future of the country other than
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most people reject it. Okay. Speaking of law enforcement and pretty obvious issues that most
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people reject, you know, there's been all this talk about the, the awful, terrible, uh, ice raids
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in Minneapolis. And then you had that woman who obstructed law enforcement, blocked traffic,
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and then drove her SUV into a cop. And then she was shot in the face for it, which is very,
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it's very sad that she did that, you know, it's sad for her and for her family. You heard that her
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lesbian partner come out and scream, those guns have real bullets. Why do they have real bullets?
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They didn't know that the guns have bullets in them. She says, this is my fault. I told her to come
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out here and she told her to drive into the guy and drive, baby, drive, drive. And you just,
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you just feel terrible for, for these people because of, well, because of the same reason
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that we were just talking about with the Supreme court case, because it's so, they're so divorced
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from reality and that they've allowed their sin, their, their, uh, intellects to become so darkened
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that they don't, they don't know guns have bullets in them. And now we're seeing who ice is arresting
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in Minneapolis. And they're actually sending more people to go, to go more agents, a thousand more
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agents to go arrest these guys. You know who that woman Renee good forfeited her life for?
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She forfeited her life for child abusers and drug dealers. Here we go. Ice is just releasing
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the mugshot, alleged, alleged drug dealers and child abusers. They released the mugshots of some
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of the people, 10 of the people that ice is arresting up there. They are alleged child molesters,
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drug dealers, you know, pushing poison on kids. That's where, that's where the drugs go. That's
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where it's the, the stereotype of the pusher standing by the playground to get a kid hooked.
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That's who this woman woke up one day and said, you know, I'm going to drive into a cop. I'm
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effectively going to commit suicide by cop. Maybe not intentionally. I'm going to abandon my kid
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as a result of that. I'm going to break the law. Best case scenario for that woman. She didn't get
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shot in the face and she'd end up in jail. But anyway, she's abandoning her kid. She's doing
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reckless stuff. She's breaking the law for what? To stop law enforcement from arresting child rapists
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and drug pet poison peddlers. And even the ones who didn't do that were breaking the law and in this
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country illegally. It's so sad because in her mind, in the minds of these leftists who are out there
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screeching and break, obstructing law enforcement, they're out there protecting, you know, the nice
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abuela or whatever. There aren't that many abuelas getting arrested. There's some getting arrested. You
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have to, they're here illegally, but that's not really who ICE is going after. They're not going
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after abuela. And what's even sadder is you say, well, yes, you know, but look, our Lord,
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our Lord gave his life for sinners, specifically for sinners, for all of us, but for sinners.
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You say, yes, that's true. We should, we actually should extend grace even to really bad people.
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We should pray for really bad people. We should, we should contribute to the common good. We should
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sacrifice for our country, which in part means, you know, sacrificing for bad people.
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But it's not good for these people to not be arrested. It's, I mean, this is what, this is
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what Plato writes about in Gorgias. There's been a lot of ink of moral philosophy spilled over this
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kind of question. Is it better or worse for the person committing bad acts, criminal acts to punish
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them? Some, some people say, they say, well, it's good to let them off the hook. It's not good to let
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child rapists and drug dealers off the hook. One, it's obviously bad for society, but two,
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it's bad for them because they're continuing to destroy their own souls. They're continuing to,
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as they do bad things, they are making their lives worse. And you have women in Minneapolis
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who are sacrificing their lives to stop a child rapist from getting arrested. It's so perverse.
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It's so perverse. Everyone is wrong here. Okay. What is this all really about? A
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not quite hinged millennial woman has just explained what the ICE protests are really about.
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What are the ICE protests about? I will allow a millennial leftist woman to explain.
00:26:01.240
You know one thing that hating men has trained me for? It's literally trained me for chasing
00:26:07.680
ICE cars off of my street. Five of them right now. Following down the neighborhood, honking,
00:26:13.540
blowing whistles, telling them to fuck off. All that rage that I have felt towards men is coming out.
00:26:23.020
I have been trained for this moment. I will follow you everywhere.
00:26:27.220
First thing I noticed, Mr. Davies, are you on the line?
00:26:32.020
Are you there? Did you notice something? You know, we did our investigative report,
00:26:36.160
our deep dive. We uncovered some really important facts. Do you notice anything about this video?
00:26:42.300
It is truly one of the most important discoveries that we've made on this show. And yes,
00:26:46.220
it is very prominently featured right in her septum.
00:26:48.960
There is a direct, scientifically proven, I assume peer-reviewed correlation between
00:26:58.440
leftist crazy behavior and women who have nose rings. And not even the side nose ring,
00:27:08.160
which can be kind of cute sometimes. The middle one, the septum, the bull, the demon one.
00:27:12.800
It's never turned out well. 100% of women, 100% of women who have the bull septum nose ring are
00:27:21.560
crazed and certainly politically on the left, which is not, it's not that all crazy people are
00:27:28.460
on the left, but all people who are firmly on the left are crazy. It's kind of like a square in a
00:27:33.400
rectangle. And what does she say? She affirms something that I've repeated on the show every
00:27:37.980
four days for years at this point, maybe? Liberalism comes down to three words and it's
00:27:44.680
screw you, dad. She says, something that hating men for so long has trained me in
00:27:50.760
is to go beat up ICE agents, go drive my SUV into ICE agents. This is the secret. I don't engage in a ton
00:28:00.120
of psychobabble, but this is what it's about. And there is actually a whole genre I wish we had,
00:28:06.980
that maybe in post-production, we can pull the images being generated of romance novels.
00:28:12.760
This is about, this is mid-millennial, elder millennial, younger Gen X women
00:28:18.240
fantasizing about big, strong guys ordering them around. That's what, there is deep stuff going on.
00:28:25.920
There was one I saw, Detained by Desire. It's one of these women at her window,
00:28:30.840
just really getting sassy with an ICE agent, just daring him to drag her out of the car.
00:28:36.980
This, that's what this is about. That's what it's all about. I hate men. Why do I hate men?
00:28:45.940
Because I hate my dad. Why do I hate my dad? Because I hate authority. Ultimately, I hate my
00:28:52.360
heavenly dad. That's what this comes down to. And I hate the moral strictures and the moral norms
00:28:58.040
that come with this. I hate the limitations that have been imposed on me, not only by my sex,
00:29:03.480
but by my human nature. And I seek maximum individual autonomy, a liberation, not merely
00:29:10.980
from unjust strictures, which we all seek, but not just, not liberation from sin, which we should
00:29:17.980
all seek, but not liberation from addiction and vice, which we should all seek, but liberation from
00:29:23.940
my very constituent parts, the things that make me who I am. Liberation, a deeply wicked liberation,
00:29:33.440
the kind of liberation that tends one toward assisted suicide. Liberation even from what makes
00:29:38.480
me me. Liberation from religion. Liberation from my child through abortion. Liberation from
00:29:43.520
my country through, I don't know, either fleeing the country or tearing down the government.
00:29:49.300
Tearing down the borders. That's what it's about. That's the secret. These women,
00:29:55.240
they got problems and they need husbands is what they need. And they need good husbands. They can't
00:30:00.660
have, you know, schmucky, loser husbands. So it's not that men totally get off the hook,
00:30:04.800
but they need husbands. It is a, it is a them problem primarily. You know, men, men have other
00:30:11.180
problems. Men got to, you know, they got to get their act together, but this is a, this is a woman
00:30:15.500
problem. For sure. It's not, ICE should just keep doing, well, that's what they're doing.
00:30:21.240
The administration is sending another thousand agents. They need, these protests are like 3%
00:30:26.280
about the illegal aliens. I'm increasingly convinced it's not even really about Abuela.
00:30:33.000
There's other stuff going on. There's other stuff going on here. Okay. That woman persuaded me.
00:30:38.540
Speaking of persuasion, sad story, though not unexpected. Scott Adams has died. Scott, and actually,
00:30:44.740
wow, coincidental, providential. I was just talking about assisted suicide. And this comes
00:30:49.840
into the story because Scott Adams did not kill himself. Jeffrey Epstein probably didn't kill
00:30:56.700
himself. And Scott Adams didn't kill himself. Scott Adams was the cartoonist behind Dilbert,
00:31:02.220
a huge phenomenon. I actually got nostalgic. I was going through old Dilbert comic strips yesterday.
00:31:07.760
I don't know. It reminds me being at my father's house or something. I don't know. It reminds me
00:31:10.580
being a kid. And I was kind of nostalgic. I said, this was such a phenomenon. And then he parlayed
00:31:17.100
that into a career as a writer of advice, self-help, persuasion. He became a really incisive political
00:31:25.440
commentator, one of the first guys to point out that Trump was not just like a big dummy saying big
00:31:30.640
dummy things, but that Trump was actually extremely persuasive. And this really tuned me into Scott
00:31:36.620
Adams. Because early on, I too thought, you know, this Trump, everyone's saying he's dumb or loose
00:31:43.620
with his language. But I think he's got real poetic diction. I think he's using his language very
00:31:48.100
carefully. And Scott could explain in much more precise terms, or much more expansive terms, I
00:31:54.040
should say, what was really going on. So anyway, he was just a really delightful figure in American
00:32:00.860
public life. And he didn't kill himself. But he thought about it. And in fact, he talked about this
00:32:09.000
In California, you have the right to end your own existence. If you have a terminal illness,
00:32:18.140
you get a couple of doctors to certify it and all that. And I was in that situation.
00:32:25.080
Meaning that I'm officially terminal. I've got two doctors to certify it. I've done the paperwork.
00:32:32.920
I've even ordered the medicine that you eventually drink to end your life. I had sort of internally
00:32:44.940
planned, you know, but wasn't telling the world that I needed to get past my stepdaughter's wedding
00:32:51.720
and reception. And then to end my life, guess when? Basically today. Today was the day.
00:33:02.940
I was planning literally to take my own life today.
00:33:08.160
That was back in June. He died yesterday. So obviously, he didn't take his own life.
00:33:14.520
And you can hear him laugh even. He says, and I got the medicine. Not medicine. If something kills
00:33:20.100
you, it's not medicine. But he was for it. Not only was he open to assisted suicide,
00:33:28.160
he was vociferously in favor of it. Scott Adams, this is going back to 2013. After his dad died,
00:33:35.220
I guess his dad was in a lot of pain as he was dying. Scott Adams took to the Libertarian magazine
00:33:39.320
Reason to defend assisted suicide and invade against those who oppose it politically. He said,
00:33:45.860
I'm okay with any citizen who opposes doctor-assisted suicide on moral or practical grounds.
00:33:50.300
But if you have acted on that thought, such as basing a vote on it, I would like you to die a slow,
00:33:55.820
horrible death too. He says, look, you can have your own moral reservations, but don't do anything
00:34:00.700
about it. Don't actually act on it. We need assisted suicide. He's just coming off this
00:34:07.360
difficult situation, which many people have faced, watching a loved one die.
00:34:12.880
And he came to, at that time, the wrong conclusion. He said, we need assisted suicide.
00:34:18.880
You and the government are accomplices in the torturing of my father. There's a good chance
00:34:22.320
you'll someday be accomplices in torturing me to death too. Wow. And then he changed his mind.
00:34:29.960
Why? Well, as he wrote, and as he said in interviews with guys like Greg Gutfeld and others,
00:34:37.520
he said, it was only long after he had committed to the process of killing himself with the approval,
00:34:45.040
with the scandalous, evil approval of doctors and the government, my commentary, not his words,
00:34:51.020
that he realized it would be more complicated. It's not like you just take the pill and then the
00:34:54.700
lights go off. If you don't vomit the poison up right away, it could put you to sleep.
00:34:59.960
And then that process of your dying could take hours. And then your poor family
00:35:04.080
not only has to endure the scandal of watching a loved one kill himself,
00:35:08.900
the sort of thing that is much more likely to persuade the people, the loved ones around you
00:35:16.540
to kill themselves. Suicide is a social contagion, long documented. But they have to keep checking
00:35:22.840
to see, is he dead yet? Is he dead yet? Is he dead yet? That process itself is a kind of a torture.
00:35:26.620
Torture. You're transferring the supposed torture from the person dying, which is, you know,
00:35:31.980
we all die, to the loved ones because of a personal choice. The process is described as
00:35:37.960
being akin to drowning. And what Scott Adams then said to Drew Pinsky, Dr. Drew, and Greg Gutfeld
00:35:45.280
is, quote, it's not as cool as I thought it would be, which is kind of delightful, happy Scott
00:35:52.540
Adams' diction. And the amazing irony, if you followed Scott's position on assisted suicide
00:36:00.860
for over 10 years now, is instead of killing himself, instead of scandalizing the whole world
00:36:09.160
that loved him, Scott offered us one of the best examples of dying well that we have seen in our
00:36:18.240
lifetimes. That's an amazing irony in the grand scope of Providence. He was calm. He was loving.
00:36:27.940
He did not hide it. You know, we hide away our dead and dying. We stick them in centers and try to
00:36:33.320
forget about them. We don't like to see death. We don't really do long funerals anymore. We don't
00:36:38.720
do long wakes. We don't, we do, we try to get people in the ground as fast as possible, get it out of
00:36:42.740
our heads. Maybe we do a celebration of life later on, but we don't like, we don't, we don't like to
00:36:47.900
think about death. We want death to be fast. In the Middle Ages, a good death was understood as being
00:36:52.680
one where you knew you were dying. You could get your affairs in order. You could think about what
00:36:57.360
happens next. This is what Scott did. Scott said, look, I'm not a believer, but I'm persuaded by
00:37:03.280
Pascal's wager and my loving Christian friends really, you know, have, they've persuaded me.
00:37:08.460
So you know what I'm going to say? I don't look, I I'm being honest. I'm not going to lie. I'm not
00:37:11.640
going to lie to you, God. I don't really believe, but I accept Jesus. I accept Jesus. I want to spend
00:37:17.620
eternity with Jesus. I want to believe is what he said. I want to believe. Okay. And so, and if I wake up
00:37:24.000
in heaven, that'll convince me. And there are all ways to parse the, the theology of that.
00:37:32.560
However, something that gives me some hope is it's very childlike. It's a very childlike approach to
00:37:37.880
say, look, I'm, I'm dying. I'm not invading against you. A lot of people, as they die, they
00:37:41.140
invade against God from the supposed unfairness of our death. And he says, look, we're all going to die.
00:37:46.120
This is what happens. This is what I deserve for being a human. You know, that's what we get.
00:37:49.640
But, uh, but, uh, I want to believe I've never been a believer, but I'm not going to pretend to
00:37:54.040
be one now. Exactly. But I want, I'm persuaded that I'd like to spend eternity with Jesus. I'd like
00:38:00.400
to, I'd like to, isn't that childlike? You know, and our Lord tells us you have to be like a child
00:38:05.040
to enter the kingdom of heaven, not childish. Childish is when you have all the bad characteristics of kids
00:38:10.300
when you're an overgrown little bratty kid. That's what you're seeing in the protests in the streets.
00:38:16.600
Childlike is good. We all should be childlike. It's having a humility. It's having a kind of an innocence.
00:38:23.600
Looking at the world with awe and wonder. And he did that. And, and he, he, he could have, he could
00:38:31.560
have scandalized the world. He could have killed himself. And a lot of people who look up to him as
00:38:35.660
their internet dad would have been scandalized by that. And instead he gave a really exemplary
00:38:42.140
show in, in dying. Well, beautiful thing. So we should all pray for him. We should all pray for
00:38:48.700
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this intentionally. This is from Mrs. Old MacDonald who says, when I left witchcraft and converted to
00:39:41.100
Catholicism, I realized everything I had been practicing was a direct inversion of every aspect
00:39:46.120
of true religion. Yeah, that's how it works because the devil doesn't create. So it's always just a
00:39:51.740
perversion or an inversion of, of the real thing, reality, which is made by God. You see that in
00:39:59.100
politics, you know, liberalism especially is, is just a, a very serious perversion, if not an
00:40:05.660
outright inversion of, of Christianity, of Christendom. So it goes because they can't make
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anything. Folks tonight, very excited. We are back with another live taping of bar fight.
00:40:19.300
We have two shows is DW wants to save on production costs. The first show is 6 PM. I take the stage with
00:40:25.200
featured libs, Oliver Niehaus and the soy pill. Then at 8 PM, things get spicy with Adam Mockler
00:40:30.720
and Lauren Peretra. Two debates, two time slots, one night, free drinks. If you like watching people
00:40:35.720
actually argue instead of just nodding politely at each other or screaming and biting each other's
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heads off. If that is the case, you got to come check out bar fight. If you haven't seen a bar fight
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episode, take a look at what to expect. No, I thought I'm sick and tired of you. Let me finish.
00:40:53.420
You had a monologue already. I tell people that Michael Knowles is my internet dad.
00:40:57.540
Stop it. We've got a bar full of people and you want us to debate HOAs.
00:41:08.140
Welcome to bar fight. Tonight I'm joined by two libs.
00:41:13.000
That's my, that's my case. I think it's a pretty good one.
00:41:18.440
You've been calling me a lib this whole time. I hate to break it to you. It might be a little bit
00:41:22.120
worse than that. Oh, just be consistent. I've been very consistent. Luke gets to finish his
00:41:26.440
point. I think this bell is rigged. My second guest, one of the top names in online liberal
00:41:30.940
commentary today, Luke Beasley. We'll see you tonight at bar fight. Make sure you RSVP by
00:41:42.520
clicking the link in the description. How did the New York times react to Scott Adams's death?
00:41:48.000
Scott Adams, whose comic strip Dilbert was a sensation until he made racist comments on his
00:41:56.340
podcast, has died at 68. Boston Globe, almost the same thing. Racist, disgraced, terrible, evil,
00:42:04.320
awful, cartoonist. Scott Adams dies. This is what they do. I mean, look, we're talking about the
00:42:10.800
political left, which celebrated the assassination of Charlie Kirk. So yeah, when a prominent right
00:42:18.740
winger dies, they're going to find some way to attack him, even in his death. They're going to
00:42:23.740
do it to Charlie. They're going to do it to anybody. They'll celebrate your death. That's a hard thing.
00:42:30.120
That's a hard thing to conclude. It's deeply unpleasant if you like to think, you know, look,
00:42:35.500
we're all one country and we have no enemies, only opponents. And you know, it's sad to conclude
00:42:39.960
that they'll celebrate your death. When that lady in Minneapolis died, deservedly, because she drove
00:42:47.840
her car into a cop, you really didn't see people on the right celebrating. What you heard was what
00:42:55.960
you heard on my show, and you heard that from most people, I think, on the right, which is, this is
00:43:00.020
very sad. The cop was entirely in the right. The lady was entirely in the wrong. She is entirely
00:43:04.980
responsible for her own death. I wouldn't have changed a thing if I were the cop, but it's sad.
00:43:11.420
It's sad that this happened for this woman's family. It's sad for her. You don't hear that in
00:43:16.640
the other direction. You hear, I hope this person dies. I hope he, I hope Trump dies. I hope that's
00:43:21.780
good that Charlie died. It's good. It's good, good, good, good, good, good. If only that guy hadn't
00:43:25.900
missed him, Butler, Pennsylvania. That's what you hear. And this is bad. It's not just anecdotal.
00:43:29.020
This is backed up by social scientific surveys. The left supporting political violence much more,
00:43:34.140
all the rest of it. Boston Globe did the same thing. Just a little correction here, though.
00:43:39.100
What did Scott Adams say? The one thing, he endorsed Trump. That was really what was
00:43:44.160
unforgivable. But the one thing that Scott Adams said that was beyond the pale, that led to the
00:43:49.260
cancellation of Dilbert and newspapers and all the rest, he was reading a survey, a social scientific
00:43:54.960
survey, which showed that about half of black people did not agree with the statement, it's okay
00:44:01.540
to be white. That was, now, I haven't looked at that survey. I haven't read. I'm just, I'm just
00:44:07.300
telling you what he said. And his conclusion from that was, hold on, man, if half of this group of
00:44:13.080
people, if half of any group of people doesn't think it's okay for me to be a white person, just okay
00:44:18.960
to, like, be a white person, then I don't want to be near those people. That's all he said. That was
00:44:24.760
his comment. I guess it's provocative. I guess it's spicy. I guess it's based on underlying social
00:44:30.500
scientific data, which could be disputed, I guess, maybe. I don't know. But that's all he said
00:44:35.760
for that, which I think, you know, if you, if you were kind of neutral about which group was which,
00:44:43.720
and if you substituted them out, and I think everyone would basically agree with, for that,
00:44:49.560
it's, yeah, racist cartoonist is dead. Yeah, read all about it. Yeah, that awful racist is dead.
00:44:59.560
That's what they do? I don't think so. I don't think that sums up Scott Adams' life. But then
00:45:05.620
again, I don't believe most of what I read in the New York Times. Okay. Speaking of journalism,
00:45:09.480
before we go, pretty crazy story. James O'Keefe has just nabbed in another undercover investigation
00:45:19.000
a U.S. Secret Service agent spilling security info about the vice president.
00:45:26.840
Can I see your badge again with your photo? You're so cute.
00:45:34.700
A current Secret Service agent on vice president J.D. Vance's security detail.
00:45:42.700
We'll have a lease, a middle of the bed, and...
00:45:45.700
...gives away vital, high-level security information to our undercover journalists.
00:45:51.080
We have f***ing different shifts. We have a f***ing shift, a f***ing shift, a f***ing shift.
00:45:56.940
...tells her about detailed future travel plans for the vice president,
00:46:00.940
and even sends her pictures with location metadata revealing where the president's convoy was located,
00:46:06.620
potentially violating both the Secret Service NDA and United States federal law.
00:46:13.280
Quote, I signed paperwork, so if I don't have to get out information, I never do, otherwise I get in trouble.
00:46:20.760
You really have to stand in awe of the lack of self-awareness.
00:46:24.320
There ain't no secret room, secret room about what we do.
00:46:26.960
Tomás Escado also reveals that he voted for Biden, and that he hates Trump and Vance's immigration policies.
00:46:36.840
What do you think about, like, all the ICE stuff going on?
00:46:41.800
The employee in Texas, I shouldn't be employed.
00:46:47.680
Now, sometimes James, look, I like James O'Keefe a lot.
00:46:52.120
Sometimes he oversells the significance of the undercover stories.
00:46:55.800
A lot of times, what he gets is totally explosive.
00:47:05.720
Okay, this is, I'm not being sensationalist here.
00:47:09.860
I'm not just carrying water for James because I like him.
00:47:15.640
You had a president of the United States come within one-twentieth of an inch of anger, his brain's blown out.
00:47:21.240
Then there was another assassination attempt on him shortly thereafter.
00:47:24.560
You have people already saying J.D. Vance, as the presumptive 28 nominee, is worse, actually, than Trump.
00:47:31.880
And you got a Secret Service agent just giving out these kinds of details, giving out photos with metadata, giving out timing, location, to random chicks on dates.
00:47:42.380
People are going to focus on the partisan aspect here.
00:47:44.960
They're going to say, this guy voted for Biden.
00:47:46.280
We need to root out all the Democrats in the Secret Service.
00:47:48.900
First of all, there are Democrats in the Secret Service.
00:47:52.780
You're not going to discriminate exactly based on partisanship.
00:47:57.120
In my experience, I know a number of guys in the Secret Service.
00:48:00.300
In my experience, most of the guys in the Secret Service tend to be on the other side of the aisle.
00:48:05.760
And we don't want them all to get fired when there's a Democrat in charge.
00:48:08.900
I mean, then there wouldn't be a Secret Service, actually.
00:48:15.560
I'm not even sure I believe that he voted for Biden.
00:48:19.760
Sometimes guys, I don't know, it's been a while since I've been in the dating pool.
00:48:23.300
But sometimes guys, they'll kind of downplay their right-wing politics if they're trying to riz up some lib chick.
00:48:30.120
It's not a good idea in the long run, but it happens.
00:48:32.380
Because the real issue here is not partisanship or ideology, it's competence.
00:48:38.260
It's actually what we were talking about at the very top of the show.
00:48:42.660
The trans case at the Supreme Court is really embarrassing because of how crazy the ideology is.
00:48:50.880
But it's also embarrassing because it's just so degrading.
00:48:53.920
It's degrading to have someone like Ketanji Jackson on the Supreme Court, someone who can't define what a woman is.
00:48:59.480
It's degrading for Harvard University that she has two degrees from there.
00:49:04.040
It's degrading that this is the kind of thing we're talking about.
00:49:09.340
It's degrading that the ACLU attorney can't anticipate the most obvious questions coming from the conservative justices.
00:49:18.720
It's degrading that the Secret Service would make such an egregious error, an extremely dangerous error, an error that could imperil the life of the vice president.
00:49:31.280
But it's, we tend to think of politics and whether or not America will succeed in the future or fail in purely ideological terms.
00:49:43.940
We just need to make sure that the right-wingers get in there, not the left-wingers.
00:49:54.020
You have the ideological axis, and then you've got the competence axis.
00:49:59.020
And it doesn't matter if you have people with the perfect ideology or political priors.
00:50:05.300
If they're not able to do the job, if they're like big dummies who don't have any skills, you're going to fail as a country.
00:50:20.140
Especially right now, the country is too volatile.
00:50:22.980
We feel like we're on the brink of a civil war.
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We are too volatile for this kind of incompetence from any law enforcement agency, certainly one that is tasked with protecting the president and the vice president.
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You have to check out for two months free on all annual plans.
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They say he was a king in Dovid, the son of a princess of lost Atlantis.
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They say the future and the past are known to him.
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That the fire and the wind tell him their secrets.
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That the magic of the hillfolk and druids come forth at his easy command.
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That the world burned and trembled at his wrath.
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The Merlin died long before you and I were born.
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Merlin Emrys has returned to the land of the living.
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Saxon Hengist has assembled the greatest war host ever seen in the Island of the Mighty.
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And before the summer is through, he means to take the throne.
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If we are too busy squabbling amongst ourselves to take up arms against him.
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A king will arise to hold all Britain in his hand.
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There will be no peace in these lands till we are all dust.
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These brothers are our only hope to stand against it.
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They say Merlin slew 17 men with his own hands.