The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1897 - JD Vance DEBUNKS Lie That ICE Arrested 5-Year-Old

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00:00:24.540 some of the most viral left-wing narratives of the last several months. Did ICE arrest a five-year-old

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00:00:41.420 I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

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00:02:51.740 on Instagram that much, but I'm on, I'm looking at stories, and what do I see? One of the people I

00:02:56.380 follow posts this story about how ICE, the evil ICE agents, have arrested a five-year-old child.

00:03:04.820 This has been going viral all over social media. Can you imagine? We were told that ICE was just

00:03:10.480 going to arrest these criminals, the adults, at least, and the murderers and the rapists and

00:03:15.420 the drug dealers. And now they're arresting five-year-old children. How on earth could

00:03:20.660 the administration defend this? Mr. Vice President?

00:03:25.400 The fact that we're standing behind law enforcement, and I'm proud of the fact that

00:03:29.260 we're enforcing the country's laws. But, you know, you asked a question about this five-year-old

00:03:33.020 kid. I actually saw this terrible story while I was coming to Minneapolis. We just left Toledo,

00:03:38.100 Ohio, this morning for an economic messaging event. And I see this story, and I'm a father

00:03:42.900 of a five-year-old, actually, a five-year-old little boy. And I think to myself, oh my God,

00:03:46.520 this is terrible. How did we arrest a five-year-old? Well, I do a little bit more follow-up research.

00:03:50.880 And what I find is that the five-year-old was not arrested, that his dad was an illegal alien.

00:03:57.000 And then when they went to arrest his illegal alien father, the father ran. So the story is that ICE

00:04:04.040 detained a five-year-old, well, what are they supposed to do? Are they supposed to let a

00:04:07.960 five-year-old child freeze to death? Are they not supposed to arrest an illegal alien in the 1.00

00:04:13.420 United States of America? If the argument is that you can't arrest people who have violated our laws

00:04:19.080 because they have children, then every single parent is gonna be completely given immunity

00:04:24.120 from ever being the subject of law enforcement. That doesn't make any sense. No one thinks that

00:04:29.480 makes any sense. Beautifully articulated yet again, J.D. Vance showing his skill at just explaining

00:04:37.780 what's going on in the administration. The administration is very good all around. They're

00:04:42.260 doing a great job. I give them a 99.78% in terms of getting stuff done. They've done a very, very good

00:04:47.880 job. However, they're not always the best at explaining what they're doing. Some of the departments

00:04:53.380 are a little weaker than others. Vance is just a pro at it. And so he comes in and he points out,

00:04:59.360 hold on, the story you're being told is that ICE arrested a five-year-old. Did that really happen?

00:05:05.620 No. ICE arrested an illegal alien who happened to have a kid. And because the illegal alien abandoned

00:05:16.860 his kid in the freezing cold on the street, ICE also took care of the kid. Because this dirtbag dad

00:05:25.040 left his kid to freeze, his five-year-old kid, ICE detained the kid and took care of the kid.

00:05:31.620 So a complete inversion of the story. Or I shouldn't say that. Because the left is cleverer than that.

00:05:39.600 What the left has done is report a partial truth that tells a total lie. It is true. ICE detained a child.

00:05:47.800 And to arrest, the word arrest just means to stop. So they arrested the child. That's a partial truth

00:05:55.580 that makes you think they're putting the kid in cuffs or something, going to put him on trial.

00:06:00.220 The rest of the story is they took care of the child because his dirtbag father abandoned him

00:06:06.740 in the freezing cold. So you see how a partial truth can tell a whole big lie. This is what heresy is,

00:06:15.480 actually. This is what heresy, and when it comes to religion, heresy is just, it means choice. It

00:06:21.040 comes from heresis. So you choose one partial truth. But if you make the partial truth the

00:06:26.460 whole truth, you tell a total lie. So that's what's happened here. But then the vice president

00:06:31.920 goes further. The vice president says, okay, so they take care of this kid as the dirtbag father's

00:06:37.660 running away. What would you have them do? Would you have them leave the kid to freeze on the street?

00:06:42.440 No. What would you really have them do? What you would really have them do is not arrest the father.

00:06:51.620 No one thinks the kid should freeze on the street. Even the awful leftists don't think that the kid

00:06:55.700 should freeze on the street. But what they do think, and what a lot of them don't want to admit to you

00:07:00.840 is they think that you should not arrest the father. If you really push them on it, what they

00:07:07.480 would say is, well, we need some carve out where if you have a kid, you don't get deported. If you have

00:07:12.160 a kid, you don't get deported. First of all, you've now created a perverse incentive to have a ton of

00:07:16.460 anchor babies. But two, that means you're just not going to deport basically any of these guys.

00:07:22.480 It's just a workaround to say, yeah, don't enforce immigration law. Have a wide open border.

00:07:27.320 Don't have sovereignty. Don't have citizenship. Let the cartels rape the country. 0.88

00:07:31.200 Why? Because why? Well, because when we go to arrest some of these guys, they'll probably

00:07:38.400 abandon their five-year-olds in the cold. And then ICE will have to take care of them while they go

00:07:43.780 get the dad. And we can't have that. When you think about it, when you really think about it,

00:07:50.960 when you look at what the picture really looks like, you realize the left doesn't have a leg to

00:07:56.980 stand on. Once again, ICE acted perfectly correctly. This is the follow-up to the Renee

00:08:06.060 Good story. How could ICE? Why would ICE shoot this woman? Why? It's very sad the woman died.

00:08:11.040 It's very sad that this five-year-old's dad abandoned him in the cold. It's very sad that

00:08:14.860 illegal aliens are imperiling their families like this. It's very sad. The cop was entirely in the 1.00

00:08:21.740 right, in both cases, with regard to Renee Good and with regard to the five-year-old. The cop was

00:08:26.020 entirely in the right. The woman, in the case of Renee Good and the illegal alien, in the case of 0.99

00:08:31.800 this father and five-year-old, they were both entirely wrong. And yet it's a sad story. And what

00:08:38.380 would you have us do? The only way to prevent these sad stories in the future is to enforce the law.

00:08:44.480 These guys are doing exactly the right thing. That's the first left-wing lie debunked. Second one

00:08:51.200 that's been going around, this one's been going around for a while. This one's been going around

00:08:54.860 since at least the government shutdown. Remember, you heard ad nauseum that illegal aliens do not 0.94

00:09:03.300 receive government health care. The Democrats shut the government down. Then the Republicans say

00:09:10.000 they're shutting the government down to give illegals health care. And then the Democrats say

00:09:13.780 they are not getting health care. These illegals do not get one penny of government health care. 1.00

00:09:19.300 Yesterday at the World Economic Forum, here is what Gavin Newsom had to say

00:09:23.520 about illegals in government health care.

00:09:26.040 Do you think that your party went too far or that you went too far? And I think, for instance,

00:09:33.180 you know, in extending Medi-Cal to the California health care program to undocumented immigrants,

00:09:39.640 like, do you? Well, two different questions. I guess on the big picture and the small picture,

00:09:43.140 do you feel like you went too far? Two different questions. Do I believe in universal health care?

00:09:46.820 Yes. Regardless of pre-existing conditions, ability to pay, and your status. I campaigned on that. We

00:09:51.880 delivered on that. And I'm proud of that. We're one of 16 states to provide care to people regardless

00:09:56.480 of their immigration status. Okay, I believe in that. I believe in that. I believe in giving

00:10:01.360 health care to illegal aliens. First of all, he says, regardless of your ability to pay, 0.99

00:10:08.360 regardless of your insurance, regardless of your status, meaning whether you're an American

00:10:15.740 citizen or not an American citizen. Does he really believe this? Because if that were the case, 0.93

00:10:20.320 wouldn't that mean that he would have to have California taxpayers, and actually federal

00:10:25.640 taxpayers, which we'll get to in a second, pay for the health care of the entire world?

00:10:30.200 A guy living in Varanasi, India right now is not an American citizen. His status is as an Indian

00:10:36.360 citizen, not as an American citizen. If what Gavin Newsom is saying here is literally true,

00:10:42.300 then California should be paying for his health care. It sounds absurd. It sounds hyperbolic.

00:10:47.420 That is literally what Gavin Newsom is saying. Regardless of your status as a California resident,

00:10:53.620 as an American citizen, we should pay for your health care. Okay, so then why don't we pay for 0.91

00:11:01.440 7 billion people around the world, if that were literally true? Now, if you tried to pin him down

00:11:06.680 on this, he's, wow, that's ridiculous. I don't really mean that. Then what do you mean? Then what do you

00:11:10.600 mean? You mean regardless of your status as long as you're from California or you live in California?

00:11:22.520 Well, that's not true. If some Guatemalan illegal alien came from Nevada into California

00:11:27.880 and broke his leg, Gavin Newsom would say we have to pay for that. So what's the limiting principle?

00:11:32.520 He wouldn't give you one. The limiting principle that most Americans believe in is whether or not

00:11:42.380 you're an American citizen, which is why even the Democrats had to pretend during that whole

00:11:48.740 government shutdown, which occurred for this very reason, they had to pretend that that was,

00:11:54.140 in fact, the limiting principle. Here is, do we have Hakeem Jeffries?

00:11:56.940 Federal law prohibits the use of Medicare, Medicaid, the Children's Health Insurance Program,

00:12:04.200 and the Affordable Care Act to provide health insurance in any way, shape, or form

00:12:08.640 to undocumented immigrants, period, full stop. That's the law. And Democrats aren't trying to 0.60

00:12:14.480 change that. Not one penny of federal taxpayer dollars goes to the health care of illegal aliens.

00:12:21.220 Mark Kelly said the same thing. All these Democrats said the same thing. And yet,

00:12:24.840 Gavin Newsom admits it right there. And in fact, at the World Economic Forum,

00:12:29.580 they admit it specifically because, he says, look, 14 states give health care to illegal aliens.

00:12:38.640 And how does California do it? Through Medi-Cal. What is Medi-Cal? Medi-Cal

00:12:42.360 is the California health care system. So this is where the Democrats are going to try to say,

00:12:46.580 well, no, we said that no federal taxpayer money went to illegal aliens' health care.

00:12:50.700 The state taxpayer money might. But that's a lie. Because Medi-Cal is half funded by the federal

00:12:57.680 government, which means it's half funded by the regular American taxpayer. Because money is fungible.

00:13:04.600 So the argument that they have to make is, no, no, no. Illegal aliens don't receive federal

00:13:09.580 taxpayer dollars for their health care. Because even though they go to a fund, which is half paid for

00:13:17.060 by federal tax dollars, we just make sure that we take their dollars from over here. 0.92

00:13:22.560 You know what we do? We keep all the federal tax dollars on the right-hand side of the fund.

00:13:28.280 And then we keep all the state taxpayer dollars on the left-hand side of the fund.

00:13:32.540 And we make sure when the illegal alien breaks its leg, when we reach into the fund, 0.66

00:13:37.140 we only grab the dollars from the left side. That's not how money works.

00:13:40.220 That's totally ridiculous. This is why this argument that federal taxpayer dollars don't

00:13:46.800 pay for abortions is so ridiculous. As long as the federal government funds Planned Parenthood

00:13:51.360 in any way, $1, one penny, federal tax dollars are going to pay for abortions. 0.97

00:13:57.500 Because Planned Parenthood would say, well, no, we're just using those dollars to keep the lights

00:14:00.960 on. Yeah, and because you get those dollars to keep the lights on, you can use your other dollars to

00:14:05.420 pay for abortions. If you didn't get those dollars to keep the lights on, you'd have fewer dollars to pay 1.00

00:14:08.980 for abortions because money's fungible. It's amazing. I mean, Newsom, this is making me second

00:14:14.900 guess his skills because it's the problem for Newsom. He wants to be all things to all people.

00:14:20.900 And the aperture is just too open wide right now on the Democrat side. You have communists and you

00:14:25.300 have John Fetterman and that's the range. It's becoming a little bit too polarized.

00:14:30.840 They're not as in lockstep as they used to be. And the left is much further left there.

00:14:35.500 So he's trying to swing back and forth. We don't pay for healthcare for illegals. Of course, 0.99

00:14:38.980 we pay for healthcare for illegals. Do, do, do, do, back and forth. But he's just admitted

00:14:43.440 something that's really embarrassing. Republicans should run that in basically every midterm

00:14:48.600 campaign. Yeah, of course, 14 states. 14 states pay for healthcare for illegals. 0.57

00:14:54.380 Doesn't look good. They're not sending their best. And his sugar daddy, Alex Soros,

00:14:59.900 made even more of an embarrassment of himself at the World Economic Forum. We'll get to that in a

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00:16:20.180 Soros, the supervillain, the James Bond villain of the global left, funds all the worst stuff. All the 0.78

00:16:26.980 prosecutors who let the criminals off the hook. All the furthest left awful candidates. Alex Soros

00:16:33.500 is now taken over for the old man because the old man is like 93 or something. He shows up at the

00:16:39.040 World Economic Forum. This is really his debut on the world stage, taking over his father's

00:16:44.480 enterprise, the most important left-wing funding in the world. How'd he do?

00:16:50.200 Democracy is messy. Democracy is about contestation of ideas. It's about plurality. It's about people

00:17:00.660 having different truths actually. Now, fundamentally, how society lives together civically in those

00:17:10.720 contestations is obviously quite tricky. But I think that if we play too much on this

00:17:21.320 disinformation card, we're taking responsibility away from ourselves to actually create a narrative

00:17:25.880 that inspires people to vote and to believe in democracy and democratic institutions. On the

00:17:36.720 institutional part, I think that we can talk about institutions as these abstract things,

00:17:42.600 but institutions are also about people. And, you know, we just heard this point about untrustworthy

00:17:49.800 people and we talked about things in the United States like, you know, like checks and balances,

00:17:54.160 which aren't written anywhere, but are customs. And one man, Donald Trump, literally came in

00:17:59.440 and just took that, you know, took that all away. You know, so, you know, so, you know, but when I see

00:18:08.060 this, you know, when I look at this, you know. I can't decide if this is Bart Simpson doing his book

00:18:18.140 report on Libya or if this is Charlie Day arguing with the Harvard lawyer about Byrd Law. I don't,

00:18:25.320 I don't know. It's both actually. I love this so much. This may, this is the biggest white pill.

00:18:35.380 I think the global right has had in a long time since the second election of Trump, probably.

00:18:43.520 Um, uh, um, uh, uh, uh, so, um, like this is the elite, the elite forum for liberal globalist politics.

00:18:53.160 This is supposed to be the guy, the Mac daddy funder of it all. Um, yeah. So like, so what do

00:18:59.560 you think, Mr. Soros? What do you, you, what's, what's your take on it? Uh, bah, duh, uh, la, uh, duh,

00:19:06.480 uh, democracy is like, uh, uh, duh, uh, uh, okay. Go on, Mr. Soros. It's like, uh, we,

00:19:19.160 it's like you all make up your own truth. Okay. Anything else? Yeah. Duh. It's like,

00:19:26.120 there is no, it's like checks and balances, which aren't even written anywhere. Uh, just

00:19:32.280 quick little fact check. They, they are written somewhere. Um, for instance, the, the constitution

00:19:38.420 of the United States, um, they're explicitly referred to in the federalist papers explaining

00:19:43.200 the constitution, but anyway, it would go on. Um, um, um, um, um, I need to stop. I need

00:19:52.200 to stop. This is becoming cruel. It's cruel to think about what he did at the world economic

00:19:58.880 forum. It's humiliating. Say what you will about George Soros. George Soros is a very smart

00:20:05.860 guy. He's a very, very intelligent guy. He broke the bank of England. Okay. He's clever

00:20:11.460 and he's been very politically effective, but you know, the apple, the apple fell very

00:20:18.580 far. A strong wind blew that apple far away from the tree. He ha he shares his father's

00:20:25.500 ideological principles, I guess, if he can even articulate them, his ideological inclinations

00:20:31.860 or passions, but he doesn't seem to share the intellect or the competence. This is something

00:20:36.800 I've talked about in, in politics. This is something I'm really pleased about with the second

00:20:40.960 Trump administration is we tend to focus so much on ideology. Does this person agree with

00:20:48.040 me? We do this when we pick candidates and sometimes we pick bad candidates because they

00:20:51.280 seem like they agree with us, but they're totally incompetent. And the great thing about this

00:20:55.200 Trump administration in particular is they've got the right ideas. They're on the, they're

00:20:59.300 on the right page. They know what time it is and they're very competent so they can actually

00:21:03.780 implement it. This is a good sign, best sign for the right wingers out of, out of Davos.

00:21:08.380 Things are looking up for us, man. This guy is not his dad. Okay. Final little bit to debunk

00:21:14.120 here. Speaking of incompetent leftists, Don Lemon, since he got canned from CNN has decided

00:21:20.420 to become like a YouTuber, I guess. I don't know. He's decided to become a man on the street

00:21:24.980 troll. And so he's out now after he conspired with a left wing mob to violate the face act

00:21:31.500 and interrupted church service in Minneapolis. Don Lemon now has shown up to, I guess, is that

00:21:37.620 Minneapolis? I don't know where that is. Is that New York? I don't know. Wherever he is. He shows up

00:21:41.080 and he starts interviewing people on the street about illegal immigration using the most childish

00:21:46.700 left wing talking points. You've probably heard these before, even in your own conversations with

00:21:50.760 people, with your lesbian cousin or with your, I don't know, your purple haired roommate or your

00:21:57.800 whatever. You're the liberals who you love, who are in your life. They've probably said something

00:22:01.640 like Don Lemon is about to say, listen to how to shut it down.

00:22:05.620 Okay. Crossing the border illegally is not a crime. No, it's not a criminal act. It's a

00:22:11.740 misdemeanor. So why are they being sent back and saying that they're breaking the law? That's the

00:22:16.000 point. Okay. As somebody that, we don't know if they're breaking the law because they won't tell

00:22:20.400 there's no due process. Where's the evidence? That's the whole point. And if they are breaking

00:22:24.080 the law, most people will say, okay, then they need to go if they're criminals. But if they're not,

00:22:28.940 why are they being rounded up and sent out? Especially when he promised to, to deport the criminals.

00:22:34.400 And now he's not doing that. Yeah. I don't think we're going.

00:22:39.700 So misdemeanor is not a criminal act. No, if you get charged with a misdemeanor,

00:22:43.680 that's not a criminal act. So why are you in charge at all then?

00:22:45.740 If it's not a criminal act? Because we have different levels of crime. Everything is not

00:22:50.160 the same. So it is crime. No, we have different levels of, I shouldn't say crime, but it's not,

00:22:55.760 it's not, you're not, it's not a crime. You're not breaking the law. I mean,

00:22:58.620 you are breaking the law, but it's not a criminal act.

00:23:03.100 I love it. I love this woman. She's got a little bit of an accent. You know, she's clearly not from 0.99

00:23:08.140 here originally. And then there's this guy off camera because she's just believing Don Lemon.

00:23:12.060 He says, a misdemeanor is not a crime. She said, really? And, and the guy off camera goes,

00:23:18.600 yes, it is. Ask him if a misdemeanor is a crime. She goes, a misdemeanor or a crime? He's like,

00:23:22.720 no, no, it's not. It's not a criminal act, but you're not charged for the criminal act.

00:23:27.140 And then she goes, well, hold on. If, if it's not a crime, why are you being charged?

00:23:32.060 And he goes, I mean, look, no, it's because there are different levels of crime.

00:23:37.360 And then she astutely observes, he goes, well, so it is a crime.

00:23:41.540 If there are different levels of crime, and this just happens to be at a different level of crime

00:23:45.400 than a felony, then you're admitting it is a crime, albeit a lesser crime than a felony.

00:23:50.480 Well, no, I mean, it's not, huh, huh, huh. And she just humiliates him. I mean,

00:23:56.920 it's just so embarrassing. The libs will say this. They will say, illegal immigration is not,

00:24:03.120 it's not a felony, which is also not true much of the time. Depending on if you're a repeat offender,

00:24:12.060 it can be a felony. But let's say it's not a felony. Let's say in the cases where it's not a felony,

00:24:16.340 they say it's a misdemeanor. The obvious rejoinder is what this woman said, which is

00:24:21.620 misdemeanors are crimes. And then they'll say, well, you know, there are plenty of other crimes

00:24:27.480 that are misdemeanors that aren't as big a deal. I don't know. What's a, what's a version of a,

00:24:32.020 speeding really, really fast. Speeding could be a, that could be a misdemeanor. Okay.

00:24:36.360 So then the next follow-up question is not to try to equate illegal immigration with

00:24:41.620 speeding because they're both, they can both be misdemeanors or certain, certain drug crimes or

00:24:47.060 what have you. Just, just ask, okay, well, what's the punishment for that? What's the punishment for

00:24:53.400 the drug crime or for the property crime or for the vehicle crime or whatever? The misdemeanors,

00:24:59.460 what is the punishment? They're going to be different punishments. You say, okay,

00:25:02.580 what's the punishment for the misdemeanor of illegal immigration?

00:25:09.480 It's deportation. And that's it. It's what we're doing. That is, but these illegals aren't 1.00

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00:25:20.540 That's the first step. And then being processed differently, depending on the crime and then being

00:25:27.360 found guilty, found innocent, and then you're out. Well done. Well done, lady. I don't know her name,

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00:27:15.400 today I am announcing the United States' intention to bid for the World Expo 2035.

00:27:20.780 The great state of Florida has expressed strong interest in hosting the Expo in Miami,

00:27:24.460 which I fully support. Miami Expo 2035 can be the next big milestone in our new golden age of

00:27:31.980 America. Now, hold on, you're already hearing this. Miami, hold on, there's a new opportunity

00:27:37.960 for America as a whole regarding the world stage, specifically one that will take place in Miami.

00:27:46.880 Oh, no. You see, Rubio's reading this. He's just, oh, no, my phone's going to ring.

00:27:52.200 It's about to ring. No, don't say the next sentence. No, no. I am appointing Miami Native

00:27:58.420 Secretary of State Marco Rubio to chair the efforts of coordinating and advancing this exciting

00:28:03.660 opportunity to convene the world. We will create thousands of jobs and add billions of dollars

00:28:07.880 of growth to our economy. In my first term as president, I fought hard to bring the 2026 FIFA

00:28:13.420 World Cup. We'll forgive him for that, though. And 2028 LA Summer Olympics to the USA. I now have

00:28:18.560 the honor of hosting as 47th president, plus America 250, G20 Doral, and the G7. I look forward

00:28:25.660 to the Miami Expo. Okay, so Rubio's got another job. This is great. I think two things are going on

00:28:31.280 here that I haven't heard other people observe. The basic thing that everyone's observing is,

00:28:37.660 Marco Rubio's really competent. And this involves the world stage. He's the Secretary of State,

00:28:42.480 so it kind of makes sense. He's already, what? He's already the administrator of USAID. He's also

00:28:48.500 the acting archivist of the National Archives and Records Administration. He's already, I think,

00:28:52.640 the dictator of Venezuela. He's about to become El Comandante of Cuba. He's doing all these jobs.

00:28:57.920 Trump is leaning into the meme. That's what's going on here. I promise you, President Trump

00:29:06.480 knows about the meme of Marco Rubio sitting in the Oval Office getting all these new jobs.

00:29:10.480 Oh, no, he's going to have to be the new Ayatollah of Iran. Oh, no, he's going to have to be the no 0.96

00:29:14.620 this and that. He's leaning into the meme. Trump is very meme-y. He's very into pop culture. He's the

00:29:18.780 biggest pop culture star we've ever had as president. The second observation, though, is

00:29:24.080 Marco Rubio's already endorsed J.D. Vance for president. So there's no evidence whatsoever

00:29:30.380 that there's any tension between the two. But some of the markets are betting,

00:29:35.180 is the nomination going to be J.D., as it seems it is? Or is it maybe going to be Marco?

00:29:39.260 Is Marco going to enter into the primary against J.D.? Is Trump going to pull his support from J.D.

00:29:44.780 and put it to Rubio? You know, the left and the opportunist cynics on the right

00:29:49.260 are always trying to look to sow dissension. By Trump leaning into this meme and appointing

00:29:56.660 Marco to all these jobs, it seems to me what he is saying is, Marco, I'm going to keep you

00:30:02.800 really, really busy doing lots of stuff, specifically with regard to the world stage

00:30:08.060 over the next two years, three years. Because when you're doing all of that, the one thing you're

00:30:13.600 not going to be doing is running for president. I don't think this, he's not dissing Rubio in any

00:30:17.820 way. I think he clearly loves Rubio, thinks Rubio is very competent, and he's obviously right about

00:30:22.420 that. But some people from the left and the opportunists on the right who, for whatever

00:30:28.300 reason, maybe they don't like Trump, maybe they don't like J.D. Vance, maybe they're more

00:30:31.840 establishment or whatever, they really want Rubio to be the guy. You know, they're trying to suggest,

00:30:37.960 well, by President Trump giving Rubio all of these roles, he's maybe appointing him to be the next

00:30:42.700 guy. I would say it's the opposite. Obviously, it's the opposite. He keeps focusing on all of

00:30:48.160 these world stage roles, which backs up what he previously said, which is, I was actually in the

00:30:53.740 cabinet meeting when Trump said this. He said, you know, Rubio is so good at Secretary of State,

00:30:56.980 I want him to do this job forever. I don't want him ever to run for another political office,

00:31:01.440 which is a little blunt. But furthermore, it keeps him really occupied. Well, if you're doing all

00:31:07.280 these jobs, the one thing you can't do is run a presidential campaign, which is fine. I don't think

00:31:11.180 Rubio's angling for that. Rubio's already endorsed J.D. Vance. The thing that's so beautiful,

00:31:15.820 getting back to the competence point of the administration is, it works together very well.

00:31:20.380 No one's gone down yet. No one really seems to be stabbing each other in the back. It's beautiful.

00:31:24.840 It's harmonious. From the outside looking in, it looks harmonious, which you never get

00:31:29.360 in presidential administrations. That's good stuff all around. Okay, speaking of new gigs,

00:31:34.720 I have to get to this, don't I? I have to. Dylan Mulvaney. You remember Dylan Mulvaney?

00:31:42.300 He is the guy who, he's a guy who pretends to be a girl, but he's really flamboyant about it. And

00:31:48.620 he pretends that being a girl is just about being frivolous and shrieking and screaming and falling

00:31:52.380 all over yourself. He had this TikTok series, 120 Days of Girlhood. He was a Broadway star and he just

00:31:59.240 loves getting attention. He also took down Bud Light by taking an endorsement deal with them.

00:32:05.320 He gets a lot of attention. Anyway, he's back in the news because he has been cast in a Broadway

00:32:10.740 play called Six about the wives of Henry VIII. And he's going to play Anne Boleyn.

00:32:20.860 Hasn't Anne Boleyn suffered enough, don't you think? Seems to me the wives of Henry VIII, 0.90

00:32:27.460 a lot of indignities, a lot of lopping their heads off, a lot of, and this is a bridge too far.

00:32:33.280 However, if a misogynist and a sexual deviant such as Dylan Mulvaney were going to appear in this play

00:32:42.980 about Henry VIII, obviously he should play Henry. Why would he play Anne Boleyn? It would make much

00:32:48.000 more sense for him to play Henry. The play, the producers are now saying this is awful. We're

00:32:54.420 getting all of this bullying. This is so transphobia. It's so awful. As if they didn't know

00:32:59.620 about the controversy when they cast this guy as Anne Boleyn, as if that's not what they were after.

00:33:06.580 As if that's not what Dylan Mulvaney were after. This is why he's doing all of this is to get a lot

00:33:10.900 of attention. And it's kind of sad because, you know, in a certain sense, his whole life is just

00:33:19.300 acting, right? He's pretending to be something he's not. But in another sense, he's really not

00:33:23.840 an actor. He's closer to a reality TV star than he is to an actor. And there are lessons here for

00:33:30.860 all of us, actually, whether you're in the theater or not, which is what distinguishes good acting from

00:33:36.640 bad acting. What distinguishes a real actor from, say, a reality TV star? It's the orientation of

00:33:42.980 the performance. For a good actor, think of someone like Philip Seymour Hoffman, probably the greatest

00:33:47.880 actor of the last 30 years. Philip Seymour Hoffman, if he would give an interview, they'd ask about his

00:33:53.340 personal life or his political beliefs or whatever. And he would say, I don't want to say. Because

00:34:00.160 the less you know about me, the better. The less you know about me, the easier it is for me to become

00:34:08.880 another character in your mind. And what is it to become another character? What is it to act on the

00:34:13.800 screen or on the stage? It's to live truthfully in imaginary circumstances. What Dylan Mulvaney is doing

00:34:22.160 is the opposite of acting. He is living falsely in real circumstances. It's an inversion. It's not that a

00:34:28.780 man can't play a woman. Boys played women in Shakespeare's plays. But they're mistaking the

00:34:36.300 circumstances. They're mistaking the stage for reality and vice versa. And then furthermore,

00:34:42.580 Dylan Mulvaney is making everything about himself. It's all about his journey, his transgenderism,

00:34:49.660 his misconceptions of what a woman is. So at a really basic level, it's not about Anne Boleyn.

00:34:55.740 It's not about the play. It's not about telling the story. This is true whatever you do in life.

00:35:02.420 If you're a lawyer, if you're a carpenter, if you're a cashier, if you're whatever,

00:35:07.500 there's a good way to do it and a bad way to do it.

00:35:10.780 For any job, whether you're a student, whatever. The good way to do it is to make your job about the

00:35:18.140 goal of the job. You can seek fame and money and power along the way. But the good way to do that

00:35:26.000 is if all of those things are in service of the goal of the job, be it to write the law or,

00:35:33.060 I don't know, run the store or to learn the book or whatever. If you make it about the thing,

00:35:42.080 the objective truth, the thing outside of you, the greater good, you'll be doing your job well.

00:35:47.060 If you make it all about you, if you say, I'm going to run for Congress so that I can get really

00:35:52.400 rich and famous. Nancy Pelosi's portfolio is looking pretty good. I'm going to get rich and

00:35:55.920 famous. Now you're a bad politician. If you say, I'm going to be in public life and maybe I'll get

00:36:01.780 some fame and maybe I'll get some money, but it will be for writing good laws and advancing the

00:36:05.620 common good. That's the right way to do it. You could do it in any field. And there's a good version

00:36:09.980 and a bad version. That's true even in acting. And Dylan Mulvaney, he's making a lot of mistakes.

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00:37:57.040 Are you really not going to get to this?

00:37:58.340 Get to what? Potentially the most viewed drag show in world history in three weeks.

00:38:05.020 Dylan Mulvaney? No, Bad Bunny at the Super Bowl.

00:38:09.520 So I saw this. You sent this to me. You sent me the article. Bad Bunny, with whom I am not terribly

00:38:17.060 familiar. Bad Bunny. Breaking news. Bad Bunny, who is best known as being a radical leftist

00:38:23.820 transvestite, is going to wear a dress to the Super Bowl in furtherance of leftist politics. 0.99

00:38:32.580 And you sent this to me, and I was like, oh, yeah, well, hey, breaking news. Dogs bark. Birds chirp.

00:38:38.620 Sun shines. I thought, why would I cover this? Breaking. Transvestite wears a dress. Stop the 1.00

00:38:43.360 presses. News at 11. Why is that a news story?

00:38:46.300 Because it's not just on TLC at 10 p.m. This is the Super Bowl,

00:38:49.860 like one of the most viewed things in the world happening. And the dude's just going to wear a

00:38:53.740 dress. He says he's going to honor queers. That's the reason why he's doing it. 1.00

00:38:56.560 Yeah, but that's what they all do. Barack Obama lit the White House up in rainbows.

00:39:01.160 What's his face? Joe Biden. I forgot his name. Joe Biden invited some transvestite, 0.98

00:39:07.520 I don't know, transgender, some version of tranny to the White House lawn, and he lifts up his 1.00

00:39:12.400 shirt and shows his fake breasts. I don't, to me, look, am I, maybe I'm just too

00:39:17.020 jaded by our popular culture. I don't, to me, this is not exactly a man bites dog story.

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00:39:29.820 stage in like 2001? That's fair. You know, both degenerate, but at least one is not contrary to

00:39:36.720 nature. That's a, you know, that's actually a very sophisticated point. What I want to have my kids

00:39:41.340 watch is the TPUSA Super Bowl halftime show, except I'm in a little bit of a fight right now.

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00:39:51.220 but I'm in a fight because they announced the Super Bowl halftime show. They're going to get

00:39:55.960 all these musicians. And yet, what do the people want? The people want ukulele. The people want,

00:40:03.640 I think, I think what the people want at the TPUSA halftime show is your boy, Michael playing the

00:40:09.500 ukulele. Does my phone ring? Let me, oh, hold on. Let me check my, hmm, no missed calls.

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00:41:17.740 My favorite comment yesterday is from Raith Sinar, 1337, who says, if he doesn't name it Orange Land,

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00:41:46.720 Hi, Michael. Love your commentary, especially your religious commentary. But I've got a bone to pick

00:41:51.640 with you about Henry VIII. What he wanted was an annulment, not a divorce, which, of course,

00:41:56.200 the Roman Catholic Church recognizes in principle. And so, the dispute was whether or not the Pope

00:42:01.200 has universal jurisdiction, not whether or not divorce is okay. Now, if the claims of Rome can

00:42:08.200 stand, they can stand against the real arguments that the Reformers were making. And I think that

00:42:13.900 as we try to work forward towards unity in the body of Christ, we should engage charitably with

00:42:20.020 one another's arguments. I think that's especially true since Roman Catholics have been so routinely 1.00

00:42:25.900 mischaracterized by Protestants. And so, I'm curious about your thoughts about that. Once again,

00:42:31.480 love the show. Love what you do. Please keep on it. God bless.

00:42:35.260 It's a very good observation about the distinction between divorce and annulment. Yes. He did end up

00:42:41.260 getting a divorce, but what he sought was an annulment from the Pope. And what is an annulment?

00:42:45.780 An annulment is when an ecclesiastical body declares that the marriage was never valid in

00:42:52.940 the first place. So, you don't get an annulment because your husband cheated on you. That's very

00:42:57.900 painful. That's really terrible. You don't get an annulment because your wife went crazy. That's

00:43:01.860 very painful and terrible too. You would get an annulment only if the marriage were never valid

00:43:06.540 in the first place. And Henry VIII was a serious theological thinker. So, it's all the more painful

00:43:14.140 that he, because of his error and his malign will, destroyed Western Christendom. But he sought an 0.61

00:43:21.920 annulment. Why? Because if I'm remembering it correctly, Catherine of Aragon had been married

00:43:29.980 to his older brother. So, in order to be married in the first place, Henry VIII had to get a dispensation

00:43:37.220 from the Pope, which he did, Pope Julius, right? And so, he argues, well, because of consanguinity,

00:43:45.700 because of, what is it, Leviticus? Because of Leviticus saying, you can't marry your brother's

00:43:52.460 wife. This is not a valid marriage. Give me my annulment. But then the Pope comes back and says,

00:43:58.160 well, hold on. You got a dispensation for this. The question was answered. It's a little confusing

00:44:05.280 is Deuteronomy says you should marry your brother's wife if your brother dies. So, even the scripture

00:44:11.500 here is quite nuanced. But after that, Catherine makes the argument, she never consummated the

00:44:19.060 marriage with the older brother. So, it was not a valid marriage. A marriage is not valid until it 0.83

00:44:25.000 is consummated. So, you're right. It's a more nuanced question just than like big fat guy wanted

00:44:31.000 a divorce. But I think when you get into the details of it, Henry doesn't have a leg to stand

00:44:36.320 on. And so, then it does become, okay, well, who has the authority here? Does the Pope really have

00:44:41.680 this universal jurisdiction? And I would say Henry would argue he did. Henry would have argued he did

00:44:46.560 before he argued that he didn't. That's why Henry appealed to him in the first place. Yes, the real

00:44:53.100 story is always more interesting than the slogans. But the real story here, I think, makes Henry even

00:44:57.660 look worse. Okay, next question. Okay, Michael. So, you just offhandedly said, you know, and sometimes

00:45:05.880 I watch trash TV, you know, and you didn't say it in the past tense. You said it in the present tense.

00:45:10.900 So, now we must know, what is the trash TV that you indulged in? What are your guilty pleasures?

00:45:17.620 I will, to make you feel more comfortable in opening up, I will admit that my husband and I,

00:45:24.880 and for reference, we're very similar to you and Melissa, it sounds like. We go to a Latin

00:45:29.620 Novus Ordo, our Christmas decorations are still up, and yeah, blah, blah, blah. We're very traditional

00:45:36.100 Catholics, but sometimes we indulge in watching a little bit of Emily in Paris. Not a little bit. 1.00

00:45:42.280 We're pretty much up to date with all the seasons, but we enjoy Emily in Paris. It's so

00:45:47.420 decrepit and predictable that it somehow is hilarious and entertaining. So, anywho,

00:45:54.880 that's our guilty pleasure. I need to know what yours is. Ideally, actually, I would like to know

00:46:00.220 what you and Elisa enjoy to watch together. Thanks. Good question. I watch very little TV.

00:46:07.120 Not because I'm better than that or whatever. Not because I don't look at screens. I just doom

00:46:10.140 scroll. That's my version of trash TV most of the time. However, when I watch real TV with Elisa, 0.88

00:46:18.440 because Elisa and I have very different tastes in movies, TV were closer. But I did recently.

00:46:23.340 I watch one or two shows a year, but we just finished watching one and enjoyed it very much.

00:46:30.580 The Beast in Me. The Beast in Me on Netflix with that famous actress. I forget her name.

00:46:37.700 The Beast in Me. It is pure garbage. It is such trash. But it's high-class trash.

00:46:46.760 It looks good. It's engaging. It's a thriller. Some of it's so clunky and just ham-fisted. It's just

00:46:58.280 garbage. It's just garbage that I love. I was listening to an Elmo album with my middle son,

00:47:06.940 just loves Elmo, all these Elmo songs. And there's this song. I forget how it goes. It's like a Broadway

00:47:12.600 rendition from the trash Sesame Street character. What's his name? Whatever his name is. Oscar.

00:47:20.280 Oscar the Grouch. Yeah. Is it Oscar? I don't know. Whatever it is. And it's just about how much he

00:47:24.380 loves trash, like delicious trash. That's how I feel about this show. It's just delicious garbage.

00:47:31.440 Next question.

00:47:33.120 Hey, Michael. I've been very historically confused for some time now. And some comments you made on

00:47:38.920 your show kind of hit at it. You mentioned how conservatives are very, some conservatives are

00:47:46.420 very cautious around MLK because what he stood for in the abstract was great. The political

00:47:52.440 implementation was not. And that, I think, puts many of us in a very confused place when we observe that

00:48:01.460 we agree with those historical facts. But then we have to reconcile them.

00:48:06.140 Our Lord says we don't pull bad fruit from good bushes. Why did such a seemingly just cause

00:48:15.420 produce so much problems? And how do we discuss this with those conservatives who are making the

00:48:26.060 case that what was stood for in the abstract with MLK wasn't good? How do we make that case to them

00:48:33.300 that it was? Thank you very much. Bye-bye.

00:48:36.340 Well, you got to examine the premises a little. You know, I'm not an MLK hater, as some people on

00:48:40.920 the right and the left are. But I think I look at him realistically, not through the lens of mythology,

00:48:47.800 which is what we've made of him because we've made him a secular saint. He has his own feast day

00:48:51.460 on the liberal liturgical calendar. So when you say what he stood for in the abstract was great,

00:48:56.320 hold on. He was a racial identitarian and a socialist, is what he was. We kind of forget

00:49:05.280 that because he's most famous for one speech that he didn't write, the I Have a Dream speech.

00:49:10.840 And the I Have a Dream speech comes down and says, hey, let's not be mean to each other on the basis

00:49:16.340 of race, right? Let's treat each other fairly and justly, regardless of race, which we all agree,

00:49:20.720 all decent people, I think, agree with. But the rest of the stuff, he was a socialist and he was

00:49:28.500 a racial identitarian. And so even that stuff in the abstract was not great. But why did he

00:49:33.600 come to symbolize good things, namely racial harmony? He did so because we have imposed a 0.96

00:49:41.260 mythology on him that was not totally separated from his real self. I mean, some of his writing

00:49:45.340 was quite good. He plagiarized his PhD thesis, his doctoral dissertation. But a letter from Birmingham

00:49:51.480 jail is a very impressive piece of writing. And he's a very impressive figure, regardless of any

00:49:56.060 personal failings. But the problem with him is the stuff that he got right, he got right incidentally

00:50:06.720 because liberalism incidentally gets stuff right. In other words, we think of him as this Christian

00:50:12.960 leader, the Reverend Martin Luther King, he wasn't really Christian in any meaningful sense. He

00:50:18.780 didn't believe in the Trinity. He didn't believe in the divinity of Christ. He was a liberal.

00:50:26.160 Now, look, there have been plenty of great men throughout history who were heterodox or heretics 1.00

00:50:31.160 or John Adams had a similar religious view to Martin Luther King. But Martin Luther King's real

00:50:38.200 religion wasn't Christianity. It was liberalism. And liberalism is bad because it gets certain

00:50:43.620 fundamental premises wrong. But because liberalism comes out of Christianity and is really a perversion 0.95

00:50:48.560 of Christianity, it does incidentally get some stuff right. John Locke, who's the father of classical

00:50:53.320 liberalism, he does get some stuff right. He gets a lot of stuff wrong, but he does get some stuff right.

00:50:58.900 And so that's why Martin Luther King incidentally gets some stuff right as liberalism incidentally gets

00:51:05.600 some stuff right. But because the premises are wrong, and because the political ideology that

00:51:12.720 is motivating him is wrong and therefore becomes wrong in implementation, it all kind of goes off

00:51:17.180 the rails. That's why. If you want a real technical explanation, that's why. It's not to totally

00:51:22.800 diss Martin Luther King, certainly not to diss the mythology of Martin Luther King, which as with most

00:51:28.620 mythologies is better than the real thing. But it's because it's a liberal. And so our ambivalent views,

00:51:37.960 our mixed views on Martin Luther King is reflective of our mixed views on liberalism. It gets some stuff

00:51:43.980 right, and we're familiar with it. And what if it were so simple? But in principle, it starts out in

00:51:50.360 the wrong place. Okay. I know I'm running late. I don't care. Give me one more voicemail bag.

00:51:54.320 Hi, Michael. This is in regards to the penny I own. One of those smash pennies you get at the fair

00:52:00.040 or the attraction. And mine has the Lord's Prayer stamped on it. And it comes and goes from my

00:52:06.000 possession. I will lose it at times in a pocket or in a laundry cycle, and then eventually it will

00:52:10.660 pop back up again. Well, it just popped back up again. And I find it curious because I've been

00:52:15.200 wanting to see a psychic lately to try to find some reason or rhyme to the chaos that has been in my life.

00:52:23.500 And I haven't gone to the psychic yet because of things that you've said, honestly.

00:52:29.320 But I'm wondering, what is it that's so hard about accepting Jesus?

00:52:36.820 Ooh, really good question. First of all, I'm glad you haven't gone to the psychic. Don't go to the

00:52:41.600 psychic. In part because you should save your pennies. You shouldn't waste your money. And in part because

00:52:46.700 it's deeply sinful. And the best thing that could happen at the psychic is that you are taken in by

00:52:53.860 a charlatan. And the worst thing is you commune with a demon and let him into your life. So don't

00:52:58.340 do that. What are you looking for from the psychic? You just told me, you said, you want to make sense

00:53:02.840 of the world. You think a psychic is going to do that for you? How would a psychic do that for you?

00:53:07.840 Well, by talking to spirits or seeing the future or, right, that's the only thing the psychic could

00:53:17.420 do. Talking to the dead maybe, right? That's what the psychics promise. Reading your mind. Well,

00:53:23.200 you already have your mind. You don't need someone to read it. All those things, even if the psychic

00:53:29.520 can do them, are much less satisfactory, much less powerful than speaking to God, right? Surely if a

00:53:39.420 psychic communing with your dead grandma is going to tell you less about the world than God who created

00:53:46.220 and sustains the world, right? I'm sure your grandma's great, but your grandma knows less about

00:53:51.420 things than God. If the psychic is communing with a spirit, demon, by the way, but even in just any kind

00:53:58.640 of spirit, surely a created spirit is less powerful and less knowledgeable than the God who made the

00:54:04.800 spirits, right? So you should talk to God and you can do that, but that gets to the last part of your

00:54:12.380 question. How do we pray to God? Well, or how do we talk to God? We pray. How else do we talk to God?

00:54:17.940 We avail ourselves of the sacraments where we believe, Christians believe that God is really present,

00:54:23.480 really truly present in the sacraments. But then you say, why is it so hard to believe in Jesus?

00:54:30.940 Because Jesus tells you, you can talk to God and see God, know God, and eat God.

00:54:41.720 That you can really tangibly encounter God, have a real personal relationship with him,

00:54:49.780 so personal that you can eat him. And that food, which is figured in the manna from heaven,

00:54:58.640 is like food in all appearances. It is different in that when you eat most food,

00:55:06.740 you break it down and the food becomes you. When you eat the flesh of the son of man,

00:55:12.900 when you eat that, you become like him. You become like God. It's a scandal. It's a scandal that God,

00:55:21.900 who we feel more comfortable with at a distance. God's kind of scary, isn't he? You know, awe and

00:55:27.160 wonder and sublimity. It's a scandal that he's really close to us, that we can actually talk to

00:55:33.300 him, that we can see him, that we know what he looks like. That's scandalous to people.

00:55:39.600 It's hard to pray to a man, who is God. It's hard to do that. I think you would much rather,

00:55:49.460 you know, pay the psychic, whatever, 20 bucks and say, ooh, I'm getting a message now from beyond,

00:55:58.900 and ooh, you know, and put on a kind of big show. But the paradoxically prosaic nature of the ultimate

00:56:08.600 glory that we have in the God-man, where we see his glory in the transfiguration.

00:56:16.760 You know, the apostles, the three apostles see the transfiguration of our Lord with Moses and

00:56:23.760 Elijah, and we see that. And also, he's a guy. He's, wait, you're talking about Jesus of Nazareth?

00:56:29.640 Wait, the guy, the son of Mary and Joseph? The carpenter, that guy? That's what's jarring for us.

00:56:36.920 And it tells us something about our dignity as human beings. That's why it's so hard to believe.

00:56:43.720 But it's much more real. It's much more tangible. It's much more logical than paying some charlatan

00:56:51.460 or demon worshiper to go screw up your soul. Don't do that. Okay. On that cheerful note,

00:56:57.280 it's a fake headline Friday. The rest of the show continues now. You don't want to miss it.

00:57:00.140 Become a member. Use code Knowles Canada WLS at checkout for two months free on all annual plans.

00:57:03.200 What was it like, Merlin, to be alone with God?

00:57:24.960 Is that who you think I was alone with?

00:57:26.820 Merlin, I knew your father. I am yet convinced that he was not of this world.

00:57:38.620 All men know of the great Taliesin.

00:57:41.980 You are my father.

00:57:43.180 Other gods should war for my soul.

00:57:46.320 Princess Garrus, savior of our people.

00:57:49.280 I know what the bull god offered you.

00:57:54.400 I was offered the same.

00:57:56.400 And?

00:57:57.880 There is a new power at work in the world. I've seen it.

00:58:02.020 A god who sacrifices what he loves for us.

00:58:04.760 We are each given only one life, Singer.

00:58:07.500 No.

00:58:08.660 We're given another.

00:58:09.400 I learned of Yezu the Christ.

00:58:14.760 And I have become his follower.

00:58:16.640 He's waiting on a miracle.

00:58:18.180 And I think you can give him one.

00:58:20.220 Trust in Yezu. 0.87

00:58:21.540 He is the only hope for men like us.

00:58:24.480 Fate of Britain never rests in the hands of the great light.

00:58:27.500 Great light?

00:58:28.640 Great darkness?

00:58:30.060 Such things mattered to me then.

00:58:32.480 What matters to you now, mistress of lies?

00:58:36.280 You.

00:58:37.820 Nephew.

00:58:39.400 The sword of a high king.

00:58:45.100 How many lives must be lost before you accept the power you were born to wield?

00:58:52.820 So clinging to the promises of a god who has abandoned you.

00:58:56.060 I cannot take up that sword again.

00:58:58.840 You know what you must do.

00:59:02.300 Great light, forgive me.

00:59:09.400 The time has come to be reborn.

00:59:15.100 The time has come to be reborn.

00:59:16.400 That's right...

00:59:16.860 The time has come to be reborn.

00:59:17.640 The time has come to be reborn, you know?

00:59:19.280 Let him use the tears of stone, extinction, confiance,vana, and life.

00:59:21.600 A love kiss.

00:59:22.100 The time has come to be reborn.

00:59:22.720 All right.

00:59:23.020 I'm уд

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