The Michael Knowles Show


Ep. 19 - Feminism： A Well-Heeled Farce


Summary

On Tuesday, mainstream media outlets perfectly embodied their progressive feminist philosophies by criticizing Melania Trump s footwear. How empowering. We ll discuss with our brand new cultural correspondent, we'll bring him on a little later. Plus, an all-female panel of deplorables featuring roaming millennial Allie Stuckey and Amanda Prestigiacomo to discuss fake news about Defense Secretary Mattis defying Trump on transgender policy, the U.S. successfully shooting down a medium-range missile near Hawaii, and fury over Evangelical's Nashville statement opposing the sexual revolution.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 On Tuesday, mainstream media outlets perfectly embodied their progressive feminist philosophies
00:00:06.020 by criticizing Melania Trump's footwear.
00:00:08.560 How empowering.
00:00:09.700 We'll discuss with our brand new cultural correspondent, we'll bring him on a little later.
00:00:14.060 Plus, an all-female panel of deplorables featuring roaming millennial Allie Stuckey
00:00:19.040 and Amanda Prestigiacomo to discuss fake news about Defense Secretary Mattis defying Trump
00:00:24.360 on transgender policy, the U.S. successfully shooting down a medium-range missile near Hawaii,
00:00:29.460 and fury over Evangelical's Nashville statement opposing the sexual revolution.
00:00:34.560 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:00:44.540 I can't wait to bring on our brand new cultural correspondent today.
00:00:48.480 You know, that's actually how I got my start in all of this.
00:00:51.180 I was the cultural correspondent here at The Daily Wire on The Andrew Klavan Show,
00:00:54.880 so I figured it'd be good to pay it forward a little bit, bring some kid on, you know,
00:00:58.880 give him his start in all of this too.
00:01:00.780 We're going to bring him on a little later.
00:01:02.340 But first, we have to talk about this great triumph of feminism.
00:01:06.020 In this age of Trumpian misogyny, where women are judged on trivial issues and things like their looks,
00:01:13.140 thank goodness we have the mainstream media to set things right.
00:01:16.300 Melania turned heads in a pair of black snakeskin stilettos, high-water pants, and an army green bomber jacket.
00:01:32.760 Aviator sunglasses, despite the rain, completed the top-gun look.
00:01:37.320 An aide carried two pieces of Louis Vuitton luggage, presumably containing a change of clothes, to Air Force One.
00:01:44.660 Critics were quick to judge Melania's fashion choices, especially those high heels.
00:01:50.040 This was the headline in vogue.
00:01:52.160 Melania trumps hurricane stilettos and the White House's continual failure to understand optics.
00:01:58.760 Twitterverse exploded.
00:02:00.580 Someone tell Melania she might want a pair of rain boots went one comment.
00:02:04.660 She's wearing stilettos, so out of touch, one another.
00:02:08.900 It is inspiring how far we've come.
00:02:11.140 It almost brings a tear to your eye, doesn't it, Marshall?
00:02:13.100 Yeah, I think she looks great.
00:02:15.180 She always looks great.
00:02:16.620 That was not the only example of this.
00:02:19.200 We have to cut to the telegraph for their breaking news on this issue.
00:02:23.120 And I'll narrate it because they keep throwing text up on the screen.
00:02:26.760 Uh-oh, we have to rewind.
00:02:33.160 What did Melania Trump walk out in?
00:02:35.500 Hang on, is Melania Trump wearing stilettos to visit Houston's floods?
00:02:40.340 What?
00:02:41.840 Yes, America's first lady has opted for very practical footwear.
00:02:45.820 Ha ha ha.
00:02:46.800 And it just goes on and on.
00:02:48.640 The telegraph is not out of sync with the rest of the mainstream media here.
00:02:53.300 From the New York Times, Melania Trump off to Texas finds herself on thin heels.
00:02:58.040 Inc.com, yes, it matters that Melania Trump wore five-inch stilettos on Trip to View Harvey
00:03:03.480 devastation.
00:03:04.660 Slate, what was Melania Trump thinking with her Hurricane Harvey stilettos?
00:03:10.240 Vanity Fair, who wears stilettos to a hurricane?
00:03:13.480 Melania Trump.
00:03:14.820 Washington Post, there was no pretense about Melania's heels, but sometimes a little pretense
00:03:19.940 helps that went on to be followed by an 820-word article describing this great faux pas, this
00:03:27.720 great injustice.
00:03:28.900 And then she changed her shoes on the plane, by the way.
00:03:31.120 So she only wore the stilettos out of the White House to then go on the plane to Texas,
00:03:36.500 where she changed into something more suitable to that climate.
00:03:39.160 And I guarantee you, if she had walked out of the White House wearing sneakers, it would
00:03:44.380 have been exactly the same, except the headlines would have all been about how Melania Trump
00:03:48.680 is disrespecting the White House by wearing sneakers.
00:03:51.640 It's really, really hard to win with these people.
00:03:55.180 Now, the issue here, too, is that Melania Trump has been a wonderful first lady.
00:04:01.060 People said that she was going to be tawdry.
00:04:03.200 She was a model.
00:04:04.320 She took scantily clad photos, this and that.
00:04:07.000 She has comported herself with utter grace.
00:04:10.060 Let's compare her to recent Democrat first ladies.
00:04:12.780 She never said that the election of her husband was the first time she was proud of her country.
00:04:16.980 She never stole valor and said that she was under a Bosnian sniper fire.
00:04:21.440 She never slandered her husband's sexual victims and called them bimbos.
00:04:25.640 And so she's been excellent.
00:04:26.520 She's been an excellent role model for women.
00:04:28.440 And these supposedly feminist media have to attack her for her choice and shoes disingenuously.
00:04:33.780 And this is sort of ironic because I looked into a little the history of high heels, and
00:04:38.760 there are a couple theories on this.
00:04:40.220 One theory from Elizabeth Semelhack, who's the curator for the Bata Shoe Museum, I'm sure
00:04:44.880 many of you have been there, says that they originated from male horse riders in the Middle
00:04:49.720 East, in the 9th century, and that the heels were such that they would allow your foot to
00:04:55.040 sit more firmly in the stirrups while you were going out and killing people.
00:04:58.900 So by that theory, it's actually a very practical shoe.
00:05:02.320 And then another theory is that it started in the 16th century with European nobility,
00:05:07.100 Catherine de' Medici, Queen Elizabeth, who wore it to, or I'm sorry, Mary I of England,
00:05:13.000 who wore it to make them look taller, make them look larger than life, and give them stature.
00:05:17.640 So, shockingly, there is one person on the left who came to Melania's defense.
00:05:23.020 Because Melania Trump apparently did something much worse.
00:05:26.580 Yeah, you see, she went to Houston wearing high heels.
00:05:31.280 Oh, and she's getting a lot of flack for it.
00:05:34.480 Online, predominantly, but it counts.
00:05:37.320 And here's my thing.
00:05:38.600 I don't know why anyone should care what anyone wears when they're on their way to help people.
00:05:44.060 People are like, why is she wearing those heels when she's going to help people?
00:05:47.080 Like, who cares?
00:05:48.080 Look at the Pope.
00:05:48.800 You see how he dresses?
00:05:50.060 Look at that.
00:05:51.300 All white with giant blue.
00:05:52.560 He looks like he's going to a P. Diddy party.
00:05:54.340 Like, but we don't say, hey, you can't go out helping people dress like that.
00:05:58.600 And I know some people are like, Trevor, it's not about that.
00:06:00.720 It's about sensitivity.
00:06:02.020 You don't wear things like that to a disaster zone.
00:06:04.200 And I understand that.
00:06:05.580 But in Melania's defense, she lives in a permanent disaster zone.
00:06:09.200 And that's what she always wears.
00:06:11.180 You know, that Pope line is, I think, the first time Trevor Noah has ever approximated a joke, which was pretty good for him.
00:06:17.580 But also, if the mainstream media, the left-wing media have lost Trevor Noah, the, you know, Jon Stewart's heir at the Daily Show on Comedy Central, they have really lost everything.
00:06:29.360 So with that, I want to end this a little bit early and bring on my brand new cultural correspondent.
00:06:34.500 We've been looking around since I started this show.
00:06:36.500 It's very important to me that we give the next generation a chance to come up and teach old fogies like me something that, you know, maybe I don't know about the culture.
00:06:44.680 So let's bring him on.
00:06:45.580 We have our new Michael Knowles Show cultural correspondent, Andy.
00:06:49.200 Andy Millennial, thanks for coming on.
00:06:51.100 Yo.
00:06:51.940 Andy, as a millennial, what is your take on our culture broadly right now?
00:06:58.360 Well, speaking as a millennial, and I have to speak as a millennial because I've never read a book.
00:07:03.900 And I haven't seen a movie that was made before 2007.
00:07:07.940 So when I say speaking as a millennial, that's actually the only thing I can bring to this conversation is my millennialness, you know, my essential millennialness, my millennialism, you might say.
00:07:18.840 And as a millennial, I think I can speak for all millennials and can tell you the kind of world in which we millennials live.
00:07:26.120 And so that's why I reference that whenever I say anything whatsoever.
00:07:30.160 And, you know, I think as a millennial, I feel that the culture is in serious trouble.
00:07:34.920 You know, we have these new things, you know, rock and roll music, I think, is making people, you know, immoral.
00:07:41.700 We have people.
00:07:44.580 I knew I wasn't going to get through that.
00:07:47.620 I was really.
00:07:49.380 I blame you.
00:07:50.540 I almost, I almost, so we have our, our new cultural correspondent, Andrew Klavan, famed novelist and Daily Wire show host.
00:08:00.680 I, I did almost break on the, I am a millennial.
00:08:04.920 And so, because I haven't read a book or seen a movie.
00:08:07.860 I was thinking, you know, remember on election night, you played Pocahontas.
00:08:11.540 Pocahontas, I asked you, I asked you, I think I asked you if your hand ever itched for the tomahawk beard.
00:08:18.900 I came on as, as Elizabeth Warren and Drew with a perfectly straight face asked me, Senator Warren, do you, when you look at Mr. Trump, do you ever feel your fingers itching for the tomahawk?
00:08:31.160 I thought that was the pinnacle of my deadpan, you know.
00:08:34.480 Andy millennial.
00:08:35.520 You were wearing that big blonde wig.
00:08:37.440 Andy millennial, yo.
00:08:38.820 Yo.
00:08:39.460 Yo.
00:08:39.760 Yo.
00:08:39.840 Well, thank you for coming on.
00:08:42.620 Ah, pleasure.
00:08:43.160 We have to talk about it.
00:08:43.740 I was wondering what you were doing in here.
00:08:44.860 You know, when a guy this young locks himself in a room, you gotta wonder.
00:08:48.300 That's true.
00:08:48.940 All the sounds coming out of here, you're like, I'm not going anywhere near that door.
00:08:52.440 No, thank you, sir.
00:08:54.460 So, we're, we have to talk about one of our favorite subjects.
00:08:57.000 Yes.
00:08:58.220 Feminism.
00:08:58.640 Feminism, yeah.
00:08:58.800 We have to talk about this wonderfully feminist response.
00:09:01.300 Unbelievable.
00:09:01.600 To Melania.
00:09:02.500 Yeah.
00:09:02.640 And, you know, one of our favorite websites, and I will take credit for, for introducing this to you.
00:09:08.160 Is everydayfeminism.com.
00:09:10.880 Yep.
00:09:11.140 A true work of art.
00:09:12.840 I'm not convinced it's not satire.
00:09:15.320 Why has feminism become such a farce?
00:09:18.540 Well, I think just about everything.
00:09:20.480 I mean, first of all, this thing with the stiletto heels was unbelievable.
00:09:24.740 There's Trump hatred.
00:09:25.600 You know, what's wonderful is all these people in Texas are obviously rising to this level of nobility and grandeur and heroism.
00:09:32.400 And they're all the people that the media hates, you know.
00:09:35.100 So, it's like, they're just making themselves look so bad.
00:09:38.080 You know, I think the left does the same thing over and over again.
00:09:40.780 They decide that there's an injustice.
00:09:43.200 And then they adopt the values of the oppressor, the person they think of as the oppressor.
00:09:48.060 So, they think that men have oppressed women, which, by the way, in the West, completely untrue.
00:09:52.960 Right.
00:09:53.120 I mean, that's the first thing.
00:09:54.620 I mean, the thing is, in a society that's just starting out and it's weak, women have a very special role to play, which is the role of burying children.
00:10:02.800 And you have to protect them and you have to keep them away from the wars and things like that.
00:10:07.200 We're so safe now that a lot of that stuff has gone by the boards.
00:10:10.100 But that's only because in the modern world we're so safe.
00:10:12.900 So, they decide there's this injustice and then they say, well, we want to be what the oppressor is.
00:10:20.000 So, if men are making money, why can't women make money?
00:10:22.880 If men work, why shouldn't women work?
00:10:24.800 If men are strong, why shouldn't women, you know.
00:10:27.240 If men are dying younger, why shouldn't women die?
00:10:28.900 Exactly.
00:10:29.180 Which now they do.
00:10:30.740 And it's so dumb because essentially men and women are the only kinds of people who are different.
00:10:36.720 I don't really believe that black people and white people are different per se.
00:10:39.220 You know, culture has a lot of effects.
00:10:41.040 But, you know, men and women are actually different.
00:10:43.460 They actually have different strengths, different qualities, different things that make them men, that make them women.
00:10:48.060 And, sure, there's always a bell curve.
00:10:50.180 You know, there's always different people who fall.
00:10:52.160 And not all men are as macho as you and I.
00:10:54.380 As the two of us, I know.
00:10:55.640 Some are a little more effeminate, of course.
00:10:57.600 You know, you can't expect that kind of level.
00:10:59.900 We're at the very top of the macho bell curve.
00:11:02.420 But, you know, I think this whole idea that we should value women, and conservatives fall for it, too.
00:11:07.620 They'll say, you know, you want to see feminism, how about a woman with a gun?
00:11:10.220 And I think, you want to see feminism, how about a woman with a baby?
00:11:13.040 How would that be?
00:11:14.640 How about a woman who's crying?
00:11:16.140 It's probably scarier, too.
00:11:17.340 Probably more intimidating.
00:11:18.840 Exactly.
00:11:19.400 You know, how about a woman who's nurturing?
00:11:21.140 How about a woman who's tender?
00:11:22.040 How about a woman who doesn't care as much about money because she's doing something more important?
00:11:25.640 You know, they even have these things where they'll say, if you paid a housewife for everything she did, it would cost millions.
00:11:32.120 Actually, if you paid a housewife for the actual physical labor she did, it wouldn't cost very much at all.
00:11:38.660 What she's devoting to it, creating a home and creating a moral universe and creating a family, that's invaluable.
00:11:45.360 And making the man sane.
00:11:47.600 Making the man a man.
00:11:48.820 Yeah, that's right.
00:11:49.620 You know, sweet little Lisa's been gone now for a couple weeks visiting her family.
00:11:52.740 I know.
00:11:53.020 My life is in shambles.
00:11:54.760 My apartment is just destroyed.
00:11:56.580 That's true, Michael.
00:11:57.000 We had a great time shooting.
00:11:58.480 That's true.
00:11:59.140 Yeah, that's all I do is I go shooting and drinking.
00:12:01.200 That's pretty much all I've been up to.
00:12:02.260 My wife leaves town about two days later.
00:12:04.000 I'm out in the woods hunting deer with my teeth.
00:12:06.560 You know, I'm just running down deer.
00:12:08.580 Yeah, no, I mean, I think that is.
00:12:10.660 And they say, well, why should a woman only have value in what she does for a man?
00:12:15.540 And you think, well, we all have value in what we do for one another as individuals.
00:12:19.220 You know, so it's just an absolutely materialist greed that has adopted the values of the people,
00:12:24.720 the supposed values of the people they hate.
00:12:27.080 You know, you see it with like Antifa, right?
00:12:29.820 Antifa, they say that the fascists are the oppressors, and so they become fascists.
00:12:33.920 They wear masks and beat up each other.
00:12:35.760 That's right.
00:12:36.400 They literally wear black shirts, you know.
00:12:38.440 Yeah.
00:12:39.440 Do you think this has always been inherent in feminism?
00:12:44.220 You know, this indiscernible of the sexes, the sexes, women should just be men.
00:12:48.820 The sexes should be the same.
00:12:49.940 They can't complement one another.
00:12:51.240 Has that always been in first wave, second wave feminism, or is it blossoming now?
00:12:57.400 Is it something new?
00:12:58.120 I think it's a question of revolution eating its own children.
00:13:00.840 I have a theory that a lot of these changes come at the time that they're supposed to come.
00:13:05.760 You know, that when women, when this civilization gets established, women start asking for more rights
00:13:13.120 because they're, in a way, they're less valuable as women.
00:13:16.560 Children become less valuable.
00:13:17.760 So women become less valuable as the bearers of children, and so they want more things to do to give them value.
00:13:23.980 I think that feminists attach themselves to those changes.
00:13:27.300 I was there, you know, as a millennial.
00:13:29.680 I was there when some of this stuff was getting started, and it was pretty easy.
00:13:33.700 You know, women said, we want to get in.
00:13:35.280 We want to work.
00:13:35.920 We want to do these things.
00:13:36.700 Everybody thought, that's fair.
00:13:38.220 You know, that's pretty fair.
00:13:39.340 But the feminists, the radical feminists, attach themselves to that and then essentially accuse you if you oppose feminism.
00:13:47.200 And I am an anti-feminist.
00:13:48.560 I'm not like a, you know, sort of pro-feminist.
00:13:51.120 I'm an anti-feminist.
00:13:52.100 But they accuse you of thinking that women shouldn't have choices and rights.
00:13:56.560 I believe a woman should choose whatever she wants to do.
00:13:58.600 Each one is an individual.
00:13:59.700 I believe I'm an individualist.
00:14:01.440 Whenever the circle of feminism and the circle of individualism intersect, I'm a feminist.
00:14:06.440 Yeah, I think the one circles down Sepulveda.
00:14:09.900 I don't know how lucky you're going to find that.
00:14:11.560 But as we see with Melania Trump, they're not really offering freedom.
00:14:15.280 What they're really offering is another way of oppression.
00:14:17.420 What they want to do is turn the oppression on us.
00:14:19.240 They want to say, well, women were oppressed.
00:14:20.780 Now men will be oppressed.
00:14:21.860 Right.
00:14:22.060 You know, that's no way to build a society.
00:14:24.520 I think the changes that came for women, giving them more, you know, choices and things like that are great.
00:14:29.720 But I really think this wave of feminism has accomplished nothing but bad and has attached itself to those good changes.
00:14:36.440 And sort of said, we did that when they just didn't.
00:14:39.240 Yeah, it seems this third wave seems destructive in both a practical sense, but also in a theoretical sense.
00:14:46.120 It seems post-structuralist.
00:14:48.620 A lot of these theorists, they use lowercase letters to write their names.
00:14:53.840 And so it's attached to an intellectual movement that deconstructs culture.
00:14:59.200 And, you know, I think it was Chesterton wrote that feminists posit, something to the effect of feminists posit, that when a woman serves her boss, that's freedom.
00:15:08.880 And when a woman helps her husband, that's slavery.
00:15:10.940 I always say that.
00:15:11.700 I didn't know Chesterton said that.
00:15:12.740 They basically say to you, don't serve a man who loves you and will dedicate his life to you and will help you raise your children and help you support.
00:15:21.800 Dedicate it to a guy who would back over you and not even notice you were dead.
00:15:25.800 You know, I mean, it makes absolutely no sense.
00:15:28.380 And it really, you know, it hits at something very important because the entire human perception of the world is divided into yin and yang for the simple reason that there are men and women.
00:15:40.140 You know, I mean, they always want to say, well, men and women are exactly the same.
00:15:43.580 But a transgender guy is a man with a woman inside.
00:15:46.780 And you say, well, wait, how does he know?
00:15:48.240 How does he know?
00:15:49.000 They're exactly the same.
00:15:49.620 How does he know he's a man with a woman inside?
00:15:50.860 He's just a double man.
00:15:53.020 He contains multitudes.
00:15:54.220 What's the diff, you know?
00:15:55.320 So they're really taking something very essential to the human perception of the world and damaging it, making people afraid to acknowledge it and trying to bully people out of acknowledging it.
00:16:07.440 I think it has made, speaking as a millennial, I think it has made millennial dating a nightmare.
00:16:13.020 I think it's made millennial marriage a nightmare.
00:16:15.180 I think people don't know it.
00:16:16.120 And you know what else it's done?
00:16:17.040 It's ruined the movies.
00:16:18.420 Like you can't go to a movie and see the girl get rescued anymore because she's supposed to be so strong.
00:16:22.960 And it's boring not to see the girl get rescued.
00:16:25.820 Most women have that fantasy.
00:16:28.040 And every man wants to rescue a woman.
00:16:29.880 That's all we want to do.
00:16:30.920 That's all we dream about.
00:16:31.980 That is all we live for.
00:16:32.820 That is true.
00:16:34.320 Speaking as a millennial as well, you have noticed that, that you, you know, I mean, I haven't dated in about 100,000 years at this point.
00:16:42.600 But you don't ask women on dates.
00:16:45.760 It's all this kind of hanging out.
00:16:47.660 It's the way that you would talk to a buddy.
00:16:49.980 Sex is easier, which is cool.
00:16:51.500 I mean, that's great for the guys.
00:16:52.600 Well, that's how many people are off by any.
00:16:53.860 Yeah, absolutely.
00:16:55.400 But it is destructive.
00:16:56.960 And, you know, your novels don't present a feminist vision of the world.
00:17:02.400 That might be the understatement.
00:17:03.180 Only because I don't believe it's true.
00:17:04.380 I mean, you know, I will present women who are tough or manly or masculine or stuff like that.
00:17:10.600 But I will not write women the way feminists write women because I've never met a woman who resembled anything like those women.
00:17:16.380 I mean, you know, I've met women who are very tough.
00:17:19.140 I've met women who are very manly, you know, masculine.
00:17:21.900 But they're still not.
00:17:22.960 They're still women at some level.
00:17:24.880 And I just really don't write feminism because it doesn't exist.
00:17:29.620 It doesn't exist as an actual real thing.
00:17:31.800 It just doesn't ring true.
00:17:33.120 It presents a vision of the world that none of us in our experience believes to be true.
00:17:38.360 Even the people who are propagating it, probably.
00:17:40.500 That's right.
00:17:40.880 Well, of course, that's why they, you know, that's why you get these things where they say, like, I was so upset that he said, you know, women aren't the same as men that I, I almost fainted.
00:17:49.400 You know, wait, what?
00:17:50.480 I started to cry, you know.
00:17:53.500 I mean, when he called me emotional, I almost burst into tears.
00:17:57.360 No, no.
00:17:58.300 And it's just, it doesn't make any sense.
00:18:00.140 And, you know, college professors can afford to lie.
00:18:02.640 But novelists are writing fiction.
00:18:04.200 They have to tell the truth.
00:18:05.220 Right.
00:18:05.660 That's right.
00:18:06.180 Yeah.
00:18:06.320 Speaking of your stories that don't present a feminist view of the world.
00:18:10.780 I'll say.
00:18:11.180 We've got one that we're working on around the clock in this room closet of a studio.
00:18:15.440 In this very room, we are creating the cure for the Clavenless weekend, another kingdom.
00:18:20.720 You are on which, by the way, and this is the only nice thing I will ever say to you, ever.
00:18:25.060 You are doing an excellent job.
00:18:26.440 You are the performer of this story that I wrote.
00:18:29.460 And you, I'm watching you act it out and do the voices and all this stuff.
00:18:33.020 And it's really, actually, you almost have some talent.
00:18:35.460 Did we get that on tape?
00:18:36.460 Marshall, is that we sure we're recording?
00:18:38.120 No, I will cut it out.
00:18:39.440 Andrew, you're really just ruining the ego.
00:18:41.360 I need to put that on my IMDb or something.
00:18:43.660 Only the first positive.
00:18:45.140 No, thank you very much.
00:18:46.000 I mean, even I'm listening to it and going, hey, this is pretty entertaining.
00:18:48.820 It is a great story.
00:18:50.120 It's really great.
00:18:50.980 It does ring a little true to me because it's about this failed Hollywood guy who wanders
00:18:55.840 into a kingdom that is probably less surreal than Sepulveda Boulevard that he walked off
00:19:01.480 of or the studios.
00:19:03.140 But it's going to be really fun.
00:19:04.160 And we're releasing it.
00:19:05.120 I actually don't know exactly when we're releasing it.
00:19:07.220 It's going to be shortly after Labor Day.
00:19:09.260 And we're going to bring it out on Fridays to make up for the, because you don't have
00:19:12.240 a show on Friday.
00:19:13.040 I don't have a show on Friday either.
00:19:14.480 Our desperate fans will, and hopefully we'll stave off some of these disasters that keep
00:19:18.860 happening every time.
00:19:19.780 Yeah, the world needs something to fill that gap.
00:19:23.980 That's right.
00:19:24.560 Absolutely.
00:19:25.040 So we're going to release it hopefully a little after Labor Day.
00:19:27.580 It'll be a weekend release.
00:19:28.760 We'll do like one episode a week and people can write in and send all their angry comments.
00:19:34.060 What are you guys doing?
00:19:35.680 Stick to feminists.
00:19:37.100 Excellent.
00:19:37.460 Well, Andy Millennial, thank you for being here.
00:19:41.260 It's a pleasure to have this great new cultural correspondent.
00:19:44.420 Andy Millennial, everybody.
00:19:45.420 Thank you.
00:19:45.680 Thank you very much.
00:19:46.360 Thank you.
00:19:46.640 Now we have to bring on our panel of deplorables.
00:19:49.480 And for this wonderful feminist episode, we have an all-female panel of deplorables.
00:19:54.880 Ladies, sorry to keep you waiting.
00:19:56.000 We have The Daily Wires, Amanda Prestigiacomo, The Blazes, Ali Stuckey, and of course, Roaming
00:20:01.600 Millennial.
00:20:03.060 Ladies, none of you would call yourselves feminists.
00:20:05.940 Is that right?
00:20:06.620 Is that fair to say?
00:20:08.920 Yeah, I would think so.
00:20:11.980 Ali, was there ever a time when you would have called yourself a feminist?
00:20:16.660 Or was there some awakening you had when you realized these people were out of their minds
00:20:20.440 and miserable?
00:20:21.220 Or have you always realized a correct division of the world?
00:20:27.180 Well, I think I'm going to stun the masses here a little bit.
00:20:30.340 I'm probably closer now to calling myself a feminist than I used to be.
00:20:34.680 It's not because that I've changed, but I've kind of realized that I don't believe that the
00:20:39.940 left should be able to monopolize every positive word that we have.
00:20:43.680 And if feminism at its core just means that the value of human beings are equal, then absolutely
00:20:49.280 I believe that.
00:20:50.160 I simply disagree with the fact that we have to only focus on microaggressions and on-demand
00:20:55.940 abortion and free birth control in order to be a feminist.
00:20:58.740 So I wouldn't say that I call myself a feminist.
00:21:01.280 However, I don't think that third wave feminism should be able to define feminism for everyone.
00:21:07.000 Fair enough.
00:21:07.620 But don't you think, they always say this, feminists always say, well, feminism just
00:21:11.040 means you believe in equal rights for everybody.
00:21:13.380 Well, then why isn't it called everybody-ism?
00:21:15.260 It seems to me disingenuous because in all of our recent experience, feminists use that
00:21:22.900 line and then spout a bunch of nonsense that has little to do with equal rights.
00:21:28.360 But I do see your point.
00:21:29.280 Who wants to let the left keep this?
00:21:32.280 Roaming, is there any alternative message to feminism that we can offer, we as conservatives
00:21:37.600 can offer to women?
00:21:39.880 Well, I think just egalitarianism.
00:21:42.400 You know, feminists always talk about how feminism just means equality.
00:21:46.420 Well, then why don't we just use the word equality, right?
00:21:49.040 I mean, and that's what egalitarianism is.
00:21:51.680 And, you know, let's say that we really do just want to make feminism all about equality.
00:21:57.180 We can't escape the fact that feminism isn't, it's not just a word, right, with a meaning.
00:22:01.640 It's an entire political movement with its own set of beliefs that I think the longer
00:22:05.540 and, you know, farther removed we are from first and second wave feminism, the more the
00:22:10.680 third wave craziness gets established, the more aggressive it's actually becoming.
00:22:14.800 So, you know, as conservatives, I don't think we need to be afraid to say that we're not
00:22:19.440 feminists or need to be afraid of being critical of feminism.
00:22:22.740 But, you know, it does sound bad to some people, especially those on the left, where you say,
00:22:26.380 yeah, I'm not a feminist.
00:22:26.980 So I think we need to be really vocal, not only about disavowing feminism, but also about
00:22:30.720 explaining why and talking about actual instances of equality.
00:22:34.700 Absolutely.
00:22:35.020 I've been trying to do that my whole life because all I really care about is having
00:22:38.760 women like me.
00:22:39.500 That is basically the main motivator in my life.
00:22:42.880 Amanda, I know that one of your favorite hobbies is irritating feminists and making them
00:22:47.460 cry.
00:22:48.340 It is a very fun hobby.
00:22:50.320 It brings to mind that Sandra Fluke.
00:22:52.240 Remember Sandra Fluke, that Democrat contrivance?
00:22:55.140 She loved the contraceptive subsidies.
00:22:57.820 And there's that image of her and she's frowning and she says, that's not funny.
00:23:01.660 What is it about pissing off feminists that's just so entertaining?
00:23:07.560 Well, they're just joyless to begin with.
00:23:11.120 That's why they are feminists, typically, because things didn't work out for them.
00:23:15.120 So they blame men for everything and they kind of like sulk in their own victimhood.
00:23:19.860 So they're just joyless, humorless people.
00:23:22.280 Everyone on the left is humorless anyhow.
00:23:23.920 So they kind of fit right in.
00:23:25.040 Ouch.
00:23:25.380 Feminism is leftism.
00:23:27.160 Yeah.
00:23:27.460 And it's true, though.
00:23:28.440 I mean, they're already joyless.
00:23:29.780 So they're just constantly spitting out this, like, man-hating nonsense that makes no sense.
00:23:36.000 And they're trying to rip women of any femininity or anything that makes them different and
00:23:40.140 special and unique.
00:23:41.320 So when I can bother them, it's especially satisfying.
00:23:45.100 But Amanda, how do you really feel?
00:23:46.560 You know, come on.
00:23:47.140 Be honest with us.
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00:24:30.840 The mainstream media have breathlessly reported that Defense Secretary Mattis is going rogue and defying
00:24:48.660 President Trump's ban on transgender servicemen.
00:24:52.040 NPR is saying Mattis puts a hold on the transgender ban.
00:24:55.580 Washington Post is saying transgender ban is frozen as Mattis moves forward.
00:24:59.880 USA Today, Mattis freezes transgender policy.
00:25:02.360 But it turns out that was all fake news.
00:25:05.220 In reality, Mattis is doing precisely what Trump directed in a recent White House memo.
00:25:11.240 Roaming, which is the main culprit here for this terrible journalism?
00:25:15.360 Is it malice or is it laziness?
00:25:18.600 I think it's a combination, right?
00:25:20.500 I don't think it's fair for us to say that they only have one fault.
00:25:23.700 Am I right?
00:25:24.240 That's absolutely true.
00:25:25.460 The world could end in fire or ice.
00:25:27.620 What do you think is the primary motivator here, though, knowing that both are certainly involved?
00:25:34.000 Well, I think, you know, first off, to be fair about this, the Trump administration has had,
00:25:39.600 I think, a history of a little bit of bad communication, especially with its policy matters,
00:25:44.420 right?
00:25:44.640 They could have been more clear about what was happening.
00:25:47.360 Mattis could have come out sooner.
00:25:48.440 There could have been more clarity.
00:25:49.720 I mean, there's like millions of people who follow Trump on Twitter.
00:25:53.640 This could have been clarified a lot sooner.
00:25:55.520 But at the same time, I think the media, we can't act as if they're not acting with a
00:26:00.640 specific agenda, with the purpose of trying to delegitimize the presidency and make it
00:26:04.920 look like Trump is doing a horrible job.
00:26:06.960 So, yeah, I mean, I think it's good.
00:26:11.340 Roaming, you said that in a very diplomatic way, which is that there has been some perhaps
00:26:16.720 not excellent communication from the White House.
00:26:19.080 Allie, is there any disagreement between the tweets about policy and the actual policy
00:26:26.540 agenda itself?
00:26:28.680 There's never any disagreement between reality and what Twitter says.
00:26:32.420 That is where I go for my daily dose of reality is Twitter.
00:26:35.780 He sort of makes reality as he says it and tweets it.
00:26:39.980 Exactly, exactly.
00:26:41.040 But this whole story, obviously, as we know about Mattis freezing, this is absolutely not
00:26:48.120 true.
00:26:48.440 He really didn't have any option or any wiggle room in the memo of whether he was going to
00:26:53.580 be able to freeze it, stop the ban or anything like that.
00:26:56.920 That's not even possible.
00:26:58.180 The only thing that he was actually able to do was to maybe advise Trump otherwise.
00:27:03.020 But he didn't really have any wiggle room in what Trump told him to do.
00:27:06.520 He is absolutely going to carry this out.
00:27:08.760 And I'm not really sure where the loss of translation happened.
00:27:12.440 Amanda, this raises an important question.
00:27:15.260 Shouldn't the Democrat hacks who play journalists on TV be focusing on other more plausible fictional
00:27:21.400 non-traverses like the Russia hacked the election narrative?
00:27:26.460 Yeah, they should definitely go back to that.
00:27:29.100 They got a lot of mileage out of that one because it was so ambiguous.
00:27:31.960 And there's a lot of like, you know, criminal that just throw in the word criminal gets everyone
00:27:35.740 all fired up.
00:27:36.940 They got a ton of mileage out of that.
00:27:38.460 I mean, it's come to a close since we're seeing like ties with the Clinton side and
00:27:43.240 all this other stuff.
00:27:44.640 But yeah, they got a lot more mileage out of that.
00:27:47.060 I mean, this lie that they told because they're trying to show that there's, you know, a lot
00:27:51.720 of volatility in the Trump administration and Mattis was sticking it to Trump, which is
00:27:55.840 not true.
00:27:57.200 You know, they tried that and it got outed real quick.
00:28:00.240 I mean, even Vox, which is basically fake news in and of itself, called out this lie.
00:28:04.660 So this is not, they need to go to more ambiguous things, not something so concrete that be disproved
00:28:09.720 so quickly.
00:28:10.680 The ambiguity is the key on these tactics because you never really knew quite what they were
00:28:16.760 saying about Russia.
00:28:17.640 It was Trump colluding with Putin.
00:28:19.700 Was the campaign trying to get some new benefit to the Trump corporation?
00:28:24.880 Were they this, that?
00:28:26.000 It was really good.
00:28:26.560 They only got one day out of this Mattis fake story.
00:28:29.160 But we have to move on to much less important issues.
00:28:33.380 As Kim Jong-un shoots test missiles over Japan, the United States has successfully shot down
00:28:38.400 a medium range test missile near Hawaii.
00:28:40.940 One of our own test missiles, not one of Kim Jong-un's.
00:28:44.220 Ali, is this all to show that miniature Stalin, that we mean business, that he won't be able
00:28:50.100 to attack another island successfully?
00:28:53.100 Or are we actually gearing up for war here?
00:28:55.500 I think that it could be, it could be a little bit of both.
00:28:59.860 Now, it's hard to absolutely say, but I think Trump meant what he said when we will meet North
00:29:04.740 Korea with fire and fury if we have to.
00:29:06.940 Now, they've also said that it's not possible to run out of diplomatic options, that all options
00:29:13.320 are on the table.
00:29:14.760 I don't think that they're going to wait around any longer and waste their time with cheap
00:29:18.720 talk when people's lives are at stake, especially our own people's lives.
00:29:22.700 So, whether it's just a form of intimidation or saying, hey, we're gearing up for something
00:29:27.560 big, obviously, I think North Korea should probably watch out.
00:29:31.800 That would be the safe bet for a little Mr. Un.
00:29:35.260 Roaming, this story has gotten significantly less media attention than Melania Trump's heels.
00:29:40.700 Oh, no, we lost roaming?
00:29:42.160 All right, I'm leaving.
00:29:43.220 Get me out of here.
00:29:43.900 Cut all the cameras.
00:29:44.640 Cancel the show.
00:29:44.980 We're done.
00:29:45.280 Get out of here.
00:29:45.740 I don't want any more part of this.
00:29:47.220 Okay, I'll stick on you for that, Ali.
00:29:50.740 You're going to settle for us, Michael.
00:29:52.380 Hey, that is fine by me.
00:29:55.080 This is what I love about the all-female panel of deplorables, because if I had Paul and
00:29:59.840 Jacob on right now, I would cancel the show indefinitely.
00:30:03.060 Well, Romy didn't have the right opinion, so she's gone.
00:30:04.880 And you're seen them all.
00:30:05.720 Yeah, speaking of Stalinism, Ali, this story, this Kim Jong-un story, has gotten significantly
00:30:11.520 less attention than Melania Trump's heels.
00:30:15.160 Do we just need to-
00:30:15.820 Obviously.
00:30:15.920 Do we, of course.
00:30:17.140 Do we just need to burn the whole MSM to the ground and create a new one and just start
00:30:21.800 all over again?
00:30:22.740 Wait, is that not why your show exists?
00:30:24.700 I thought that's why you did this whole thing.
00:30:26.100 That is the reason I wake up in the morning.
00:30:28.080 I think I can start watching you.
00:30:30.280 That is true.
00:30:31.620 We might need better digs, you know?
00:30:33.380 We've got this brick wall over here.
00:30:36.000 But hey, maybe after time we can move into the Washington Post studios or the New York
00:30:40.520 Times.
00:30:41.000 That'd be great.
00:30:44.420 Amanda, will this test succeed at putting our allies at ease?
00:30:49.360 Or are they still nervous about Mr. Trump and our willingness to stop an attack on them?
00:30:57.120 No, I think, I mean, I think it helps.
00:30:59.880 I think the plan is, from the Trump administration, is that because this problem has been kicked,
00:31:05.100 you know, they kicked the cannon on the road so many times, so many different administrations,
00:31:08.720 it is kind of on Trump right now.
00:31:11.000 So Trump is talking tough as he should, and he's showing, you know, doing these tests to
00:31:15.800 show force and kind of like ease our allies.
00:31:19.100 But in the meantime, he's working diplomatically, and he's working with China, which is what he
00:31:22.580 has to do.
00:31:24.140 So this stuff for show is good, and it's important.
00:31:27.520 But in the meantime, President Trump is working with China to put pressure on North Korea,
00:31:31.300 you know, to stop providing them all this monetary support.
00:31:37.380 This way they can, you know, their nuclear, their utility, they can kind of drop down on
00:31:44.120 the nukes.
00:31:44.540 That's kind of what's going on right now.
00:31:46.000 And then eventually we can handle them possibly militarily or get rid of whatever nukes they
00:31:52.680 have.
00:31:53.060 So that's kind of the plan right now.
00:31:54.460 So this stuff seems for show, but it's all part of a bigger overlapping plan.
00:31:58.900 That is the show business strength of President Trump, right?
00:32:02.300 He does his crazy dance over here.
00:32:05.440 And then in the meantime, he has his negotiators working with China and working with North Korea
00:32:10.760 and with our allies.
00:32:12.140 And again, it's very strategic.
00:32:14.900 And speaking of show business, we have to talk about gays.
00:32:18.640 Left-wing leaders in the mainstream media, but I repeat myself, are up in arms after a coalition
00:32:24.400 of evangelical leaders issued a statement affirming traditional Christian views regarding
00:32:28.880 homosexuality and transgenderism.
00:32:31.640 Specifically, I'm shocked.
00:32:33.320 I'm sure we're all shocked about this.
00:32:35.560 Amanda, the Nashville statement centers around issues of sexuality, desire, orientation, gender
00:32:43.420 identity, as we now call it.
00:32:45.260 But while it speaks at length about homosexuality, which Jesus does not explicitly discuss in the
00:32:52.200 Gospels, it doesn't mention divorce.
00:32:54.660 It doesn't talk about divorce, which Christ speaks explicitly to in the New Testament.
00:32:59.600 Is this statement myopic?
00:33:02.780 Well, yeah, there wasn't, was there mention of adultery?
00:33:07.660 I read the statement quickly, and it's basically about the complementarity of the sexes and about
00:33:14.540 sexual desires.
00:33:15.980 But I don't, it might be in there.
00:33:17.260 I read it quickly, but I don't remember any particular descriptions of adultery and how the
00:33:22.420 evangelical churches will deal with that.
00:33:25.640 Yeah.
00:33:26.180 I mean, so overall, I thought it was a good statement, because this is the kind of stuff
00:33:30.260 that's slipping from our grip, is that these differences in biology that the left just doesn't
00:33:35.920 want to acknowledge.
00:33:37.580 So I thought it was good in that sense, and especially because this transgender movement
00:33:40.640 is moving so fast, like a freight train, and it's affecting even children.
00:33:45.040 I mean, five-year-olds are not exempt from the transgender movement.
00:33:48.000 I mean, we're seeing this in kindergartens.
00:33:50.320 So it was an important statement and very useful.
00:33:53.840 I think they could have even gone farther and talked about adultery and divorce and things
00:34:00.140 of that nature.
00:34:01.920 But yeah, overall, this was needed, and this was a breath of fresh air to see Christian leaders
00:34:08.920 actually combating this and going full force at them and saying, this is what we stand for,
00:34:12.980 and we're not going to bend.
00:34:13.900 It's kind of a step towards taking back the culture.
00:34:16.640 And I should correct that a little bit.
00:34:19.000 I should say it does talk about, as Christ talks about, marriage and sex outside of marriage
00:34:24.540 and sex within marriage.
00:34:25.800 So I suppose that could be read to mean adultery, or that could be meant to describe sex before
00:34:30.760 marriage.
00:34:31.340 And a lot of times when people are discussing Christ talking about homosexuality, they talk
00:34:35.920 about sex outside of marriage and the definition of marriage.
00:34:39.300 But it does seem to be a pretty basic statement of the traditional Christian and traditional
00:34:46.560 Western view of sexuality.
00:34:48.160 Yeah, this was not anything new.
00:34:51.420 And that's why the heads exploding is rather odd, because this is, I don't understand what's
00:34:56.800 so crazy about this.
00:34:59.400 I mean, this has been Christianity forever.
00:35:03.080 Do you think the media are feigning the shock?
00:35:06.820 Do you think the lady doth protest too much, methinks?
00:35:09.040 Or do you think they really are just ignorant of the history of their civilization?
00:35:15.240 It could be both.
00:35:17.300 I wouldn't put ignorance past them.
00:35:19.600 But I don't know.
00:35:20.180 You kind of see this with feminists a lot.
00:35:22.120 They'll project a lot, because they want, they kind of yearn for that strong male figure
00:35:27.300 that they can't grasp.
00:35:28.540 So they're just like, I don't need it.
00:35:29.980 But so, you know, it could be a little bit of that, where that's just like projection.
00:35:34.440 And actually, the stuff does seem kind of nice.
00:35:37.320 You know, they have these differences with the sexes.
00:35:39.360 So they just bash it when they hear it.
00:35:41.800 So it could be a combination of both.
00:35:43.920 It is always back to the feminism with this one.
00:35:46.500 It is always back to the feminism.
00:35:48.240 Allie, how come all anybody on the left wants to talk about these days is unconventional
00:35:52.820 sex?
00:35:53.460 If you talk about tax rates, if you talk about health care, nobody cares.
00:35:57.200 You can't really get them that riled up.
00:35:58.880 But when you start talking about specifically homosexual sex and transgender identity, which
00:36:04.500 affect less than 2% of the population, homosexuality engages 2% to 4% of the population.
00:36:11.460 Transgenderism would engage less than 2%.
00:36:13.880 Why is this all they care about when it's such an apparently minor issue?
00:36:19.340 Yeah, I think that's a pretty easy question to answer.
00:36:23.900 I think it's because the left, not just politically, but ideologically, theologically, wed sexuality with identity, which God is very clear about that in the Bible, that your sexuality is not your identity, especially if you're a believer.
00:36:37.460 Your identity is in Christ.
00:36:39.080 And when your identity is in Christ, that comes along with some things.
00:36:42.740 Jesus is very clear, maybe not about specifically homosexuality, but by following him, you're denying yourself, not just gay people, but anyone denying yourself, taking up your cross and following him.
00:36:53.520 And for some reason, there's been a loss of translation between that and homosexuality and transgenderism.
00:36:58.840 And those sins, which Christianity laid out very clearly, that's what it is, are no different than anyone else's sins, but they are still sins.
00:37:08.700 And we are so afraid of saying anything is right and wrong.
00:37:12.420 We're so afraid of laying out morality.
00:37:14.500 We're so afraid of being called bigots that we're especially not going to say that someone's sexual identity is wrong and that it's antithetical to Christ's teachings.
00:37:22.040 So I completely agree with Amanda.
00:37:24.180 Amanda, this was a refreshing, just reminder of the sanity of the Christian church, especially if you are a believer.
00:37:31.180 It was nothing new.
00:37:32.860 It just reiterated everything that the Bible says.
00:37:35.880 And for people who are believers, they also read this through the lens that this is the most loving thing that you can tell anyone, no matter what their sexual orientation is.
00:37:45.440 Because for the believer, we believe that there is freedom and joy found in obeying Christ.
00:37:49.860 I really like what you said about identity, because a lot of times I think people, especially on the left, focus a little too much on sex.
00:37:59.520 They're always so consumed with the idea of sex.
00:38:02.420 But the real issue is the identity here.
00:38:05.440 And this is true of the white identitarians on the fringe of the right.
00:38:09.560 This is true of the cornucopia of intersectional identities that people have on the left, is they attach their identity to some creation, to some creature.
00:38:18.900 So you can always think of that kid in high school who's so frustrating and so annoying because he likes that one band, you know, and you've never heard that band before.
00:38:28.960 And that's really where he finds his identity.
00:38:31.460 And the same is true of all these other basically superficial things like my skin color or my Rachel Maddow glasses or something to that effect.
00:38:40.280 And I'm sorry, did I cut you off, Amanda?
00:38:41.420 Did you have something to say?
00:38:42.660 Oh, yeah, no, no.
00:38:44.080 That's a fantastic point.
00:38:45.860 I just want to add that it also kind of kicks the heck out of moral relativism.
00:38:52.240 You know, there are actually moral standards that we should uphold.
00:38:56.180 And that is really frightening to the left because then, you know, if you fall short, then you feel bad about yourself.
00:39:00.360 Nobody should be shamed and need to get rid of anything that would ever deter your actions.
00:39:05.380 You should be free to do whatever you want, which, again, does not produce any real happiness, as we've seen.
00:39:10.100 So, you know, that that really startled them as well, that there are actual standards and everything is not relative.
00:39:17.080 You know, there are actually things that must be upheld, which bothers them to no end.
00:39:21.380 The truth above all things.
00:39:23.720 Absolutely.
00:39:24.300 Ladies, thank you for joining Ali Stuckey from The Blaze, Amanda Presto Giacomo for The Daily Wire.
00:39:29.440 You know, if all female panels of deplorables is feminism, then sign me up.
00:39:33.600 But it's not feminism, so I need to put on my smart glasses for the final thought.
00:39:44.260 Ideologies, by definition, oversimplify and therefore pervert our view of the world.
00:39:49.380 Oakeshott, in Rationalism and Politics, defines ideology as the formalized abridgment of the supposed substratum of rational truth contained in the tradition.
00:39:57.840 By the end of that process of theorizing, the world becomes, to varying degrees, unrecognizable.
00:40:03.800 And this is the trouble with feminism.
00:40:05.700 The vision of the world that feminism presents simply isn't true.
00:40:09.700 It is particularly destructive because it undermines the atomic human relationship between a man and a woman.
00:40:15.980 It claims that the sexes are either irreconcilably at odds, or conversely, that they're the same, indiscernible from one another.
00:40:22.540 But every one of us knows that, in reality, neither of those are true, because fundamentally, men and women complement one another, and what a joy that is.
00:40:31.640 At least, that's what I keep telling these all-female panels of deplorables.
00:40:34.980 I am Michael Knowles.
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