Ep. 1907 - NEW VIDEOļ¼ Strange Figure Enters Jeffrey Epstein's Tier The Night He Died
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Newly released footage shows an orange figure entering Jeffrey Epstein's jail cell the night he died, and perhaps even more important, we re now learning that no one ever found the noose that Epstein allegedly used to kill himself. We ll get to what any of that means, and then, speaking of last things, President Trump shows up to the National Prayer Breakfast and has everyone on Twitter debating whether or not he s really a Christian. And finally, Kamala Harris makes a major announcement about her political future.
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Newly released footage shows an orange figure entering Jeffrey Epstein's jail cell the night
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he died. And perhaps even more important, we're now learning that no one ever found the noose
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that Epstein allegedly used to kill himself. That seems like a pretty big oversight, doesn't it?
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We'll get to what any of that means. And then speaking of last things,
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President Trump shows up to the national prayer breakfast and has everyone on Twitter debating
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whether or not he's really a Christian. And finally, Kamala Harris makes a major announcement
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about her political future. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
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Let's start with the Epstein thing. This is pretty weird and it's not coming from,
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you know, 4chan or something. This is coming from CBS News. Pretty mainstream outlet.
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February 5th, 2026. Who entered Epstein's cell? Sorry, who entered Epstein's jail tear
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the night of his death? Newly released video logs appear to contradict official accounts.
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Yes, the official accounts have been contradicted myriad times, I think, at this point.
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Up to and including the footage of the jail tear. Remember, we were told
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that there are cameras on Epstein's jail cell, on his tear, on his floor.
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But actually, the cameras didn't work, so we don't have any footage.
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No, but actually, we do have the footage. No, but actually, a minute is missing.
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No, but actually, the minute is back. And it's all original footage. But actually,
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it's clearly from a video editing program. And actually, actually, actually. So what's the latest?
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I'll just read a little bit from the CBS News article.
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Newly released Department of Justice documents show that investigators reviewing surveillance footage
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from the night of Jeffrey Epstein's death observed, an orange-colored shape moving up a staircase
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toward the isolated locked tier where his cell was located at approximately 10.39 p.m.
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So pretty late at night. I love the way they're describing it. An orange-colored shape.
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Some people probably on the left are imagining that this is just Trump himself.
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Yes, a vaguely mango-colored, you know, blonde-haired, had a very nice Brioni suit on with a
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slightly too long red tie. No, that would be the lib version of what we on the right all imagine,
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which is that it's Hillary Clinton in Groucho glasses in a FedEx suit saying, you know,
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I got a package delivery for Mr. Epstein. He just chokes him out. Okay. What is probably meant
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is that the person is wearing an orange jumpsuit or maybe carrying orange jumpsuits. It's a little
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unclear. Now, we've already mentioned this, by the way. This isn't particularly new information.
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I was covering Epstein months and months ago when some of this footage came out,
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and we were pointing to strange figures that were moving around. Okay, now we can zoom in and say
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there's this weird orange figure here. Okay. CBS goes on. Thomas told investigators he discovered
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Epstein in his cell shortly after 6.30 a.m. and that he ripped Epstein down from the hanging position.
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Investigators asked what happened to the noose. Quote, I don't recall taking the noose off.
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I really don't. I don't recall taking the thing from around his neck.
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Well, that's a little weird, right? I guess what you could say is it was so shocking.
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It's always shocking to see a dead body, but it was especially shocking here. This is one of the
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most wanted talked about criminals in all of America, in all of the world, and you find him
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dead in a cell. And maybe, who knows, your hormones are spiking. You have a surge of adrenaline.
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You're shocked, and you forget. Maybe he just forgot. Gets weirder.
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Noel, who remains standing at the cell entrance, told investigators she saw Thomas lower Epstein to
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the floor, but did not see a noose around his neck. Hold on. So now it's not just the guy who
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discovers Epstein and takes him down. It's also the observer standing a little bit further back,
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looks and says, you know, it's weird. He was hanging, but I didn't see him hanging from anything
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in particular. The noose Epstein allegedly used has never been definitively identified.
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According to the inspector general's report, a noose collected at the scene was later determined
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not to be the ligature used in Epstein's death.
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They never saw a noose. The guy who took him down never saw the noose. The lady watching him take
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him down never saw a noose. And investigators never even found the noose. Add on to that the
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medical examiner's report. At least one medical examiner saying that the breaks in his neck were
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more consistent with strangulation than with hanging. Come on. Come on, man. Come on, man.
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Let's just. Everyone's focusing on the aspects of his life. Everyone's focusing on he had a
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connection to Russia. He had a connection to Israel. He had a connection to the CIA.
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He had a connection. And he had, and he did, and what he was really up to was this. And what he was
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really up to was this. And some of the accounts actually contradict each other. And he was really
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a super spy. No, he was really just a sex freak rich guy. No, he was really trafficking girls. No,
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he was really trading secrets. No, he was really dealing with the Arabs or the Israelis or the Russians
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or the Americans or the British or the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You got to put that aside for a
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second. That's getting us nowhere. Where's that getting us? We now have every theory. We've
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connected him to every country on earth, every intelligence agency, every vice. That's not
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getting us anywhere. If you want to get to the heart of the Epstein story, the first thing you
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have to ascertain is it is the end of the story, not how the story begins. Not a lot of people want
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to focus on how did this guy who dropped out of college end up becoming a math teacher that was
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hired by Bill Barr's father at the Dalton school. But then he became a, what, some kind of trader
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at Bear Stearns. And then he became the money manager for Les Wexner. And he said he would only
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manage money over a billion dollars or only have clients who are investing over a billion dollars.
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And then he worked with this intelligence agency. And then he helped out this shake in Arabia.
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And then he, don't look at the beginning of the story. That is going to lead you down a billion
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different trails, especially with this guy who seemed to be connected to every powerful person
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on earth. I think you have to start at the end of the story. And curious, isn't it, that the shadiest
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part, the part that has been most covered up, that has been most contradicted, it's not the stuff at
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the beginning of the story. It's not, did Epstein work at Bear Stearns? Did Epstein know Ghulain
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Maxwell? Did Epstein pal around with Bill Clinton? It's none of that. The part that has been most
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assiduously covered up is the end of the story. How did he die? Who killed him? Why don't we have
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the noose? That's it. If we focus in on that, and by the way, I don't think we're going to get an
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answer on it. This has been my consistent position from the beginning. Either Epstein is who they say
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he is, in which case we know everything about him, or he's something more, in which case we know
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everything we're ever going to know. Because they're not going to let it out. But if we could
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ascertain who killed him, that would help us to answer why was he killed? That would help us to
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answer what purpose in world politics did he primarily serve? That would help us to answer
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who chiefly was he working for? That would help us to answer what was the Epstein operation really
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about. But the only way you're going to get those big answers is by going backward. You're
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not going to get it by going forward. Now we're getting some little tasty little hints.
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Nothing definitive. And if you want my bet, you want me to put some money on the table,
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I don't think we're going to get much more than that. Perhaps I will happily be proven wrong.
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when a joke works, he repeats it. That's actually the mark of understanding the stage.
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Trump comes out and he makes this joke about how he might not be going to heaven.
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Last time I was having a lot of fun. We had a big crowd with 60,000 people. And I'm
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talking about the fact that I will never make it to heaven. I will never, ever. And I was being
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funny. I was trying to be, you know, you can't be sarcastic with them because they write your words
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and the people are reading the words are much different. But I say, I'm never going to make it
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to heaven. I just don't think I qualify. I don't think there's a thing I can do, but all of these good
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things I'm doing, including for religion, you know, religion's back now hotter than ever before.
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I mean, I have to tell you. But I said, even though I did that and so many other things,
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I named things. I said, I won't qualify. I'm not going to make it to heaven. The New York Times
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did a front page story that Donald Trump is questioning his life and the meaning of his life.
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No, I was just having fun. I really think I probably should make it. I mean, I'm not a perfect
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candidate, but I did a hell of a lot of good for perfect people. That's for sure.
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I love this whole little joke that he's telling here. And some people, especially on social media,
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they're saying, well, this is proof that President Trump is not a Christian.
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Because in Christianity, you don't earn heaven. You don't earn eternal life as a gift given to you
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by God. It's God's grace descending, coming down the mountain. And you have to cooperate with God's
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grace. Actually, some denominations of Christian communities deemphasize that or deny it entirely.
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But the traditional view is you do have to cooperate with God's grace, but it's God's grace
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first. And so they say, well, this is proof Trump's not a real Christian because he's talking about
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earning heaven. And to that, I would say, first of all, just listen to his words. He's saying,
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he's kind of joking. And the joke is self-effacing, by the way, which means that it's a joke that
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comes from humility, which is good because humility, all wonder, fear of the Lord. These
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are the beginning of wisdom. This is important as a disposition if you're going to start to take
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religion seriously. But he says, I'm not going to earn it. He actually says that here. I don't know.
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I don't deserve it. I'm not going to earn it. I've done, I've tried, but I don't think I'm going to
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make it. He says, no, but actually maybe I, maybe I will. I'm not a perfect candidate,
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but you know, I've done some good for perfect people, for the people who are much better
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than I am. So I'm doing my best. This yet again, I mean, I don't want to stretch exegesis too far.
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And I'm not saying that Trump should be made a doctor of the church by any stretch of the
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imagination. But the things that he's saying here have kernels of Christian truth to it.
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I'm not going to earn heaven. I'm not a perfect candidate, but I might make it. So there you
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have the humility. There you have the recognition that we don't earn heaven. He says, but I might
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make it. There you have a little hint of the theological virtue of hope, which we're called
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on to do. And why? He doesn't specifically say, you know, because I have faith in Christ,
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which he should say, or because, you know, Christ has given me his church and these sacraments
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that with which I can refresh myself and my soul. And he doesn't, he doesn't say that he's not
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speaking like a theologian. He's not speaking like someone who was well catechized, but, but he does
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say, I've done a lot of good for perfect people. Even here, even here, you, you get a hint of the
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parable that our Lord tells of that, that manager, you know, that deceitful little manager who he
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knows he's going to lose his job. So what does he do? He goes to all the people who owe money and he,
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he cuts their, their, uh, debts in half. He says, you say you owe a hundred. Okay. I'm going to write
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down that you owe 50. You owe 200. Okay. I'm going to, I'm going to say you owe 100. And our Lord
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commends him says, you know, the children of this world, they're smart, they're cunning says, and make
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friends with unrighteous mammon so that one day those people that you've helped will welcome you
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into eternal dwellings. When he says, you know, I've done a lot of good for perfect people. That is like,
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in a weird way, pointing at that very parable. So again, I'm not, I'm not making any claims about
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president Trump's eternal destiny. Uh, I certainly hope and, and, uh, I should pray that president
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Trump is, uh, you know, received into the church and avails himself of the sacraments and does I,
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yes, absolutely. Of course we should all pray for that. I'm just saying, I think he gets more of it
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than, than some people want to admit. Uh, here's one good example. Trump admitting he needs help.
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And, uh, last time I came, I was, I got in at four in the morning. They said, sir,
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you're going to be speaking at seven. They said, really? Oh, that's wonderful.
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I said, where? National prayer breakfast. I said, I'll be there. I'm afraid not to be.
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I need all the help I can get. Okay. It's another joke that I'm sure president Trump's
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told many, many times before, and it's a joke, but in jokes, there's a little bit of truth,
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isn't there? This is yet another expression of that humility. I need all the help that I can get.
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Yeah. Yeah. That, that is a very much a part of the Christian worldview. It's a good,
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it's a good start. Now let's get to some brass politics here. Tough stuff. President Trump
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speaking to the national prayer breakfast, which includes Democrats comes out. He says,
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you cannot really be a person of faith and a Democrat.
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I don't know how a person of faith can vote for a Democrat. I really don't.
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And I know we have some here today and I don't know why they're here because they certainly don't
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give us their vote. I certainly know that we're not going to be convincing them to vote for
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a little thing called voter ID. It polls at 97%. And even the Democrat, the people,
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the voters are at 82% for voter ID, but the leaders don't want to approve of it.
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Okay. What about the claim? The basic claim? I don't know how you could be a person of faith
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and vote for a Democrat. A hundred percent correct. And there are going to be some people that kind of
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squishy, you know, Kumbaya types who say, well, no, of course you can, you know, because the church
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transcends politics and the church is much bigger than politics and partisan politics. But there are
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certain non-negotiables. Back when the Democrat party had room for pro-lifers, you could say,
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okay, I see how you could vote for a Democrat. Back when the Democrat party didn't radically
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redefine marriage, the fundamental political unit and the symbol of Christ in his church,
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you could say, okay, I see how you could vote for a Democrat. Today, you can't. You really can't.
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In almost any circumstance, you just can't. This is a non-negotiable issue. If there's a political
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party that says we support the wholesale slaughter of infants, we support abortion, something that the
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church has opposed since the earliest catechism we have, clearly opposed since the earliest catechism
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we have the didache from antiquity, from right around the apostolic age, you just can't vote for
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them. Very good point. And it's kind of funny because then Trump pivots to voter ID, which is,
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it's an important issue, but it's kind of a relatively minor issue when we're thinking about
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religion and faith. But the point he makes totally stands. And then one last point from the prayer
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breakfast before we get to the standing of MAGA nationally, CNN weighs in on this. What does Trump
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have to say about religion generally? Have a great country. If you don't have
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religion, you have to believe in something. You have to believe that what we're doing,
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there's a reason for it. There has to be a reason for it. We're all working and we're
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doing, we're behaving. I mean, I behave because I'm afraid not to, okay? Because I don't want to get in
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trouble. No, there's, it's such a positive thing and people are starting to see it and
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they go into church. I love this statement. I love this statement. And there are going to be a lot of
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people, religious people from across religious traditions who say this is shallow. This is a
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shallow take, Mr. President, because you're just saying religion is a positive thing, but you're not
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weighing in on whether or not it's true. You're not evangelizing, you're not catechizing. You're
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saying it's a positive thing. Like those disillusioned liberals who say they want to
00:23:09.020
believe, they're culturally Christian. It's a good social kind of convention, but it isn't really true.
00:23:16.720
Keep listening. What does he say? He says, yeah, religion's a positive thing and we need religion.
00:23:26.160
Now, even there still, it could sound like he's just saying, look, it's a social convention, maybe
00:23:30.340
even a noble lie that we have to believe to get along. But he says, no, no, because look at what
00:23:36.840
we're doing. We're behaving, not just behaving well, but just behaving. We're doing stuff. We get out of
00:23:44.360
bed in the morning and it has to mean something. That's the centerpiece of that comment. And that's
00:23:50.140
the brilliant insight. It has to mean something. There has to be a reason that we are doing what
00:23:57.780
we're doing. The world, in other words, has to be intelligible. We have to be able to make sense of
00:24:06.200
it. And we have to communicate in a way that has recourse to objective truth that has meaning.
00:24:14.640
We have to behave in a way that is not just totally irrational, like we're a bunch of grunting
00:24:18.880
baboons that can't consciously make sense of anything. The very fact that we behave in a way
00:24:28.280
that seems to be rational, that we act as though the world is intelligible, implies that there is
00:24:35.360
an objective truth behind it, that there is an intellect behind the world that makes it intelligible,
00:24:41.760
that God really does exist. Yes, religion is a positive thing. It's good as a sociological matter,
00:24:51.400
but it is positive precisely because it makes sense of the world. And it makes sense of the world
00:24:59.240
because it's true. That's the point that Trump is making. That's the insight that he has either
00:25:06.420
stewed on for 70 plus years or that he has just unwittingly stumbled upon. But either way,
00:25:13.020
that is a crucial insight. Pun very much intended. Okay. Where does Trump stand? You're hearing from
00:25:20.180
a lot of Democrats that Trump is very unpopular right now. You're hearing from people on the right
00:25:25.220
that the MAGA coalition is falling apart. And you're hearing from political opportunists in the
00:25:30.340
Republican Party that J.D. Vance, who is the heir apparent, who Trump has effectively endorsed,
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The 2028 fight over what happens after Trump is already underway, well underway.
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And I can't help but notice that a lot of the people who were never Trump in 2016,
00:27:11.880
who grudgingly supported Trump perhaps in 2020, who jumped off the Trump train the first chance
00:27:18.060
they could get to back someone like Ron DeSantis, who I actually like in his own rights, but to back
00:27:23.100
any non-Trump candidate in the primary in 2024, that these kinds of people are trying to turn
00:27:32.100
the tide against J.D. Vance, who is the heir apparent to MAGA, and trying to suggest that
00:27:36.440
there's not unity in the Republican Party, trying to suggest that President Trump's coalition,
00:27:40.900
even under his leadership, is beginning to fall apart, trying to suggest that the Republican Party
00:27:45.900
needs to turn in a brand new direction. Let me translate that for you. Go back to the stale
00:27:51.140
old consensus that Donald Trump destroyed in 2016. They just need to change something dramatically if
00:27:57.800
they want to maintain unity and have a chance in 2028. So is any of that true? We turn not even to
00:28:06.100
a Republican source. We turn to CNN runs its own poll, a lot of polls. Here's what the numbers actually say.
00:28:15.900
It's about the Make America Movement. Again, that's what we're talking about. Make America
00:28:20.600
Great Again Movement. And it is as powerful as it has ever been, because I want you to take a look
00:28:25.460
here. GOP who view MAGA favorably. Two years ago, when Donald Trump was running for term number two,
00:28:30.820
it was 74 percent. Today, look at this. It's 78 percent of Republicans who view the Make America
00:28:37.840
Great Again Movement favorably. So we're talking about something that, in my opinion, will very much
00:28:43.740
be able to outlast Donald Trump. J.D. Vance, the Vice President of the United States, at this point
00:28:48.640
looks like a favorite for the Republican nomination come 2028. And one of the reasons why he looks like
00:28:53.580
a favorite is because the Republican base loves J.D. Vance. What are we talking about here? Someone who
00:29:00.040
really represents the Make America Great Again Movement. This is somebody a year ago, his favorable
00:29:04.920
rating among Republicans, 81 percent. Latest Marquette University Law School poll, look at this.
00:29:09.940
84 percent. 84 percent. 84 percent. So if anything, his favorable rating is somewhat up from where it was
00:29:16.660
a year ago. Yeah, right. The claim that is being made by all of the, not all of the liberals, because
00:29:27.640
obviously CNN comes out here and is actually seriously conveying this Marquette University
00:29:31.760
poll, but by many of the liberals saying, oh, you know, MAGA's falling apart. Trump's really
00:29:36.860
underwater. J.D. doesn't have a shot. Forget about them. They're always going to say stuff
00:29:41.040
like that. I'm talking about the kind of people who never liked MAGA, who never liked Trump,
00:29:46.700
who wish we could return to the halcyon days of the Bush family. They're the ones who keep
00:29:52.940
suggesting, well, no, Trump's, he needs to change all of his policies and not do the stuff he campaigned
00:29:57.580
on. This is really, forget, you know, the migration stuff and the tariffs. It's all really,
00:30:00.500
really terrible. And especially that Vance. There's no way. Vance doesn't have a shot.
00:30:03.900
And he, you know, we need to replace Vance with someone who's more like an establishment
00:30:08.040
Republican. I don't know, maybe are some of the Bushes around or is there maybe Mitt Romney? Could
00:30:12.940
he run? That would be nice, wouldn't it? Otherwise, it's all going to fall. The whole coalition is
00:30:19.040
going to fall apart. The evidence says precisely the opposite. No surprises there, but you got to keep
00:30:27.540
your eyes peeled because as we now enter into the midterm year and then as we look ahead to the
00:30:33.500
presidential election in 2028, you're going to see a lot of political psyops like this to try to crack
00:30:40.600
the MAGA coalition. There are people who have hated MAGA, who have hated Trump for 10 years and they
00:30:49.160
consider this their opportunity finally to get power back, to reorder the coalition. No reason to do that.
00:30:57.520
No reason to do that from a policy, philosophical, ideological perspective. No reason to do it from
00:31:03.940
an electoral perspective. MAGA is more popular today than it's ever been. And J.D. Vance, the heir
00:31:11.400
apparent, the crown prince, the obvious successor to President Trump, is more popular today than he's
00:31:17.060
ever been. Among Republicans, among the people who determine the coalition. Okay, now let's turn to
00:31:25.020
the Democrats because Kamala Harris has a major announcement. She teased this yesterday on her
00:31:30.880
Twitter account, Kamala HQ. Here's what Kamala HQ had to say. It's a login, Kamala HQ. Password's way too
00:31:41.620
online. Password, the babysitter is weird, huh? Project 2025 was real. Oh my goodness. Headquarters,
00:31:50.580
tomorrow. Now, first time I saw this, this announcement, what is this announcement? Is
00:31:56.440
she going to be running for president? Is she going to be running for governor of California?
00:31:59.340
What's this big announcement? But I thought it was really weird. The second kind of silly little
00:32:03.480
password she entered is from the babysitter is weird. Given Kamala Harris's husband's
00:32:09.800
past public scandals, I thought that was, it just revealed the political incompetence of the Kamala
00:32:17.840
Harris operation. Such a blunder. If you're going to think about anything, you're going to think about
00:32:23.520
a Harris family scandal. Just so tone deaf, so incompetent, like Kamala Harris's entire political
00:32:31.340
operation. She was the first candidate who had to drop out in 2016, was it? Was it 2020? I forget.
00:32:38.820
It's also blurry now. This was 2020. Yeah, I guess it was 2020. Yeah, it was 2020. And she was the
00:32:46.060
first one who had to drop out. Then she only got the nomination in 2024 because they couldn't pass
00:32:50.480
over a black woman. She only got the vice presidential spot because Joe Biden boxed himself
00:32:55.500
into a corner saying he'd pick a woman of color. And the other two options, Susan Rice and Karen Bass
00:33:00.600
were unacceptable because Susan Rice was the fall man for Benghazi. And Karen Bass is an actual
00:33:04.460
communist. Totally incompetent. But you say, all right, well, I hope Miss Miss incompetence is
00:33:10.000
going to run for president again. Yesterday, we found out what the announcement was.
00:33:16.260
Madam Vice President, what's going on with Kamala HQ? Well, I'm so glad you asked. I have good news.
00:33:22.000
So Kamala HQ is turning into headquarters and it's where you can go online to get basically the latest of
00:33:28.620
what's going on and also to meet and revisit with some of our great courageous leaders, be they
00:33:34.620
elected leaders, community leaders, civic leaders, faith leaders, young leaders. I'm really excited
00:33:40.620
about it. So stay engaged and I'll see you out there. Thank you. Kamala's big announcement
00:33:51.780
She did not even, I have to correct myself. She's not even starting a new Twitter account.
00:33:59.860
She's just keeping her Twitter account going. The Kamala HQ, I have to thank them. They featured a
00:34:06.520
number of my clips during the presidential campaign. So I'm very grateful to Kamala HQ for that,
00:34:10.940
for the publicity. But she's not even starting a new Twitter account. Her big announcement is she's
00:34:15.380
keeping one of her Twitter accounts. And then you want to see the incompetence.
00:34:19.800
The original name she gave it, the handle, was headquarters underscore six, seven.
00:34:27.260
Six, seven. You get it? That's what the kids said for a while. They said six, seven.
00:34:34.320
I'm going to Pokemon go to the polls. Six, seven. It's like, oh no, this woman. Six, seven's officially
00:34:44.460
over, I guess. Kamala said it. It's totally over. It was so cringe and embarrassing.
00:34:49.380
They actually changed their handle immediately. Now it's headquarters six, eight underscore
00:34:54.540
or whatever. Okay. So that's, that's the announcement. She's done. Stick a fork in her.
00:35:02.880
Kamala's done. Gavin Newsom has that much more runway for 2028. Okay. Before we go,
00:35:08.540
speaking of inarticulate Democrat women, I do have to get to this line. AOC just sat down with Don Lemon.
00:35:16.160
AOC. You know, the libs love hanging around with criminals. Whether we're talking about Senator
00:35:20.420
Chris Van Hollen flying down to see his boyfriend, Kilmar Brigo Garcia, the illegal alien alleged wife
00:35:26.480
beater down in El Salvador. Or whether we're talking about AOC sitting down with Don Lemon,
00:35:30.520
another criminal. AOC sits down with him and then posts the clip. And this is what she writes
00:35:36.260
from her official government account, Rep AOC. Intimidation is an age-old tactic to qualm
00:35:43.760
public dissent and outrage. This administration, capital A for some reason, is going after public
00:35:51.160
figures to encourage the American people to self-censor. But we will not be silenced and we
00:35:57.040
will not accept this violation of our First Amendment rights. Capital R, again, for no reason. I'm not sure
00:36:01.480
why she capitalized the R there. Intimidation is an age-old tactic to qualm. What does she think the
00:36:10.740
word qualm means? Not only does AOC not know the meaning of the word qualm, she doesn't even know
00:36:18.720
that qualm is a noun rather than a verb. She's trying to use it as a verb. It's not a verb. It's
00:36:25.300
a noun. A qualm is like a misgiving. It's an uneasiness that one has. I don't have any qualms
00:36:35.920
about making fun of AOC here or whoever is running AOC's Twitter account. I don't have any qualms at
00:36:39.980
all. Some people would. I do not. What is she trying to say? Is she trying to say quell?
00:36:46.120
Maybe quell public dissent? Maybe com? Maybe she's putting together qualm and quell? I don't know.
00:36:54.000
I don't know what she's doing. What I do know, though, is she didn't just accidentally misspeak
00:37:00.120
as she was talking, which we all do. We do. Even I, who have a great respect for lexical
00:37:06.740
precision, even I misspeak sometimes. She wrote it and published it from an official government account.
00:37:16.320
This is bad. And it gets to a point that I've mentioned before.
00:37:18.760
However, the problem with our current political class is not just that it is ideologically radical.
00:37:27.640
It's also incompetent. That's why we have such a breath of fresh air with the Trump administration
00:37:32.620
is they're pretty competent relative to the last few that we've had. So you need ideological clarity.
00:37:41.900
You need to be on the right team. You need to want the right things. You need to have the right
00:37:44.760
object in mind. Yeah, that's all important. You also need basic competence. A country cannot survive
00:37:51.160
with just people who have good intentions but no ability to carry them out.
00:37:56.420
We'll collapse. And we'll certainly collapse if people have bad intentions, bad ideas, bad goals,
00:38:01.680
and incompetence. And actually, maybe the worst of all is when they have really bad goals
00:38:06.200
and they're very competent. That's maybe the worst of all. But this is bad. And there's the H.L.
00:38:11.040
Menken observation that democracy is a theory that the common man knows what he wants and deserves to
00:38:14.500
get it good and hard. The fact that our public culture is degraded, that we've had a kind of
00:38:19.920
leveling culture, that we have encouraged the lowest common denominator in our politics,
00:38:26.980
means that we're going to get governors in the broad sense, people who are writing laws,
00:38:33.380
effecting laws, executing laws. We're going to get people like AOC who don't understand the English
00:38:41.180
language, who don't know the difference between a noun and a verb. Hard to remain a global superpower
00:38:46.960
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More to get to, but I want to get to the mailbag. So my favorite comment yesterday is from Brock David
00:40:52.700
who says they don't hate authoritarianism. They want to be the authoritarians. I assume referring
00:40:59.100
to the libs. I actually don't really agree with that. I get the point you're going for and I agree
00:41:04.340
with the thrust of it. But I hear this from people on the right a lot. They say, you know, the left,
00:41:09.120
they call us fascists, but they're the real fascists. They're not fascists. They're not actually.
00:41:14.740
They're communists. And communists are bad too. Some would say communists are worse.
00:41:20.720
But they're not, it's not, not every bad thing is fascism. In a way, it's actually,
00:41:25.580
fascism is bad enough in itself because it makes an idol of the state. But communism is worse in its
00:41:31.560
effects. And that's what they are. And on this point you say, they're authority. They want to
00:41:35.320
be authoritarians. It's actually worse than that. Authoritarianism. Authority is good. Authority is a
00:41:41.480
good thing. We actually want just authority. Authoritarianism is a kind of unjust authority,
00:41:46.820
an authority that goes too far. Okay, I guess there's some problems with that. But what the
00:41:51.100
left is, is worse because they're totalitarians. What would be the distinction? Authoritarianism is
00:41:58.760
Franco. Totalitarianism is Stalin. Authoritarianism says, look, we're going to have certain rules and
00:42:07.000
we're going to really insist upon them. And you might think we're a little heavy-handed, but in
00:42:10.780
some cases, like if you're talking about the Spanish Civil War and the Bolsheviks trying to
00:42:13.560
invade Iberia, maybe you got to be a little heavy-handed. Okay, that's authoritarianism.
00:42:18.280
Totalitarianism is, hey kids, snitch to the police on your parents for their thought crimes so that we
00:42:23.280
can kill them. Totalitarianism pervades every aspect of society, invades your mind,
00:42:30.000
leaves no crevice unfilled by its miasma. Authoritarianism just says, hey, there are going
00:42:38.540
to be a handful of rules here that you really got to follow or are going to be tough on you,
00:42:42.360
but for the rest of it, do whatever you want. It's a difference. The right sometimes falls into
00:42:47.980
authoritarianism, sometimes for good purpose, because it is a reaction to the left's anarchy
00:42:54.420
and alternately totalitarianism. Okay, finally, finally, we arrive at my favorite time of the
00:43:00.000
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off your first month. Take it away. Hey, Smokey Mike. You have described abortion as murder,
00:43:09.900
and I agree, but the majority of the pro-life movement isn't willing to treat it as murder.
00:43:15.340
Bills of equal protection, which extend the laws protecting against murder to all human beings,
00:43:19.600
are consistently shut down by pro-life organizations. This is to protect post-abortive
00:43:25.180
women from criminal consequences, but in effect, it gives these women special murder rights. As a
00:43:31.820
Christian, I understand wanting to have compassion on post-abortive women and to preach Christ's
00:43:36.320
forgiveness to them, and we should. There is forgiveness for murder in Jesus Christ alone,
00:43:41.160
but it seems inconsistent and unjust to hold the doctors who perform abortions liable,
00:43:46.380
but not the women who electively seek them out. If we're going to call abortion murder,
00:43:51.360
then shouldn't we aim to be consistent, establish justice, and treat it as it is?
00:43:55.820
I love the show, and I love to hear your thoughts. Thanks. Great question, and largely,
00:44:02.560
by and large, good points, but I disagree in your conclusion. The question is, why don't we
00:44:09.260
charge women who have abortions with murder and incarcerate them or give them the death penalty
00:44:14.980
or something like that? If we don't do that, is it not the case that we don't really believe that
00:44:20.240
abortion is murder? Is it not the case that we don't really believe that pre-born babies are really
00:44:26.220
fully human and alive? No, I don't think that necessarily follows. The reason that we don't
00:44:31.660
charge women who have abortions with murder is because if we were to do that, every pro-life law
00:44:37.080
would immediately be repealed, almost without exception. That's why. And I suspect you know
00:44:43.580
that. There is a prudential reason. If the goal is to protect as many babies as possible,
00:44:50.520
because politics is the art of the possible, the art of the second best, then we need to recognize
00:44:55.280
that there's some prudential limits to what really can be done, even if in an abstract sense,
00:45:00.180
justice would call for us to treat the women who kill their children as we would treat abortionists.
00:45:06.380
Now, if we focus in on justice, there are a couple other reasons why we might not want to charge the
00:45:11.640
women who have abortions with murder. First one would be related to that point I just made on
00:45:17.680
prudence. That is St. Thomas Aquinas' argument for why we don't necessarily have to outlaw prostitution
00:45:24.160
everywhere. And his observation is that people in society are at different degrees of virtue. And so we
00:45:30.480
want the law to be a teacher and to elevate everyone in virtue and sanctity. But we recognize
00:45:36.740
that if we shoot too high at the beginning, people will snap and the condition of the society will be
00:45:43.400
even worse than it was before. So if we try too hard, if we push too hard and too fast on the criminal
00:45:52.980
consequences of abortions, we might inadvertently make the country less inclined to be pro-life and
00:46:00.920
we might inadvertently lead to the deaths of many more babies. Okay, that's a middle part of that
00:46:06.480
argument. And then here's a third part. In many, if not most cases, the women who go in and have
00:46:15.920
abortions are committing a morally different act from the abortionists who actually perform the
00:46:22.520
abortions. And an analogy that I'll make is the distinction between mortal sin and venial sin,
00:46:28.960
which comes from John's epistles. You know, all sin is unrighteousness, all sin is really bad,
00:46:35.220
but there's some sins which are not mortal. So what's the distinction between mortal and venial sin?
00:46:39.400
Mortal sins are sins that are done with full knowledge, sins which are grave matter,
00:46:47.420
and sins which are done willingly. Okay, in the case of abortions, some women know exactly what
00:46:54.940
they're doing. They're not being coerced. They don't care. They just want to kill their kids.
00:46:59.040
That does happen. I'm not denying that at all. The libs want to pretend that doesn't happen.
00:47:02.640
It does happen. However, there are many, many women who go in to have an abortion
00:47:08.920
because they don't really know what it is, or they've convinced themselves that it's not really
00:47:14.020
murder, or they've been told by their parents and by their communities and by their schools
00:47:18.520
that it's not really murder. It's just a clump of cells. By their politicians, they've been told this,
00:47:22.280
and they actually believe it. And some of them come to realize that that wasn't true when the vacuum
00:47:26.080
turns on and it leads to lifelong trauma. The trauma itself is evidence that something went wrong there.
00:47:32.640
So there are many cases, I think, in which the women don't really have full knowledge.
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There are many cases, I think, in which the women are coerced. In fact, we know that for a fact.
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Some boyfriend or even a husband, I suppose, could coerce a woman to have an abortion.
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And in some cases, women are killed when they refuse to have an abortion. We covered one of those
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stories just the other day of a guy texting someone and says, I'm going to delete this person from
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the world. I'm going to cancel this person. I'm going to go kill my girlfriend.
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She's pregnant and I don't want her to tell my other baby mama or whatever, the woman I'm living
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with. It's a horrific story. That does happen. So if there's coercion, that also mitigates the
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culpability of sin. It's obviously grave matter to kill your kid. But that would be another reason
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why I would say there is even at a moral level, at the level of justice, a distinction to be made.
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Whereas when it comes to the abortionists, if they really are competent medical doctors,
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they know what they're doing. It is grave matter. They have full knowledge of what's going on.
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They're the ones really carrying it out. They're the ones who've studied the anatomy. They're the
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ones who are the scientific experts. And they're definitely doing it willingly. No one's coerced
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into becoming an abortionist. So I think that would be one reason to treat them differently. The chief
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argument I guess I would make is the prudential argument. But that would be one reason, even from
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the level of morality and justice, to maybe draw a distinction here. Okay. So much more I want to
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get to. So many more voicemail bag questions. Let me at least get to one. This is a question from
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Michael F. Because sometimes I ignore the written mail bag. And I want to get to this question. This
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is a very important question from Michael F. Hi, Michael. You did it again. I haven't heard you say
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it in a while. But because I know you know that words matter, it's not called the
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bi-sesquicentennial. That would be 300 years, which would be better stated as tricentennial.
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Bi equals two of something. Sesquicentennial equals 150 years. Two 150 yearses would be 300,
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not 250. You have two options for stating it correctly. Semi-quincentennial or sestercentennial.
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Okay. Okay. This is referring to America's 250th anniversary. And I'm giving a speech today at
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YAF, actually, in Nashville on the 250th. I just want to make the point. Yes, I know. I've heard
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this. It depends on whether or not the parts of bi-sesquicentennial are additive or multiplicative
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because you have bi meaning two, centennial meaning hundred, and then sesqua meaning
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and a half, and a half. It depends on whether or not it's bi with centennial, 200 sesqua and a half.
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Or if it means, and I agree that you're reading a bi-sesquicentennial is entirely plausible.
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If it means sesquicentennial, 100 and a half, 150, bi meaning double. I agree that semi-quincentennial
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is probably the clearer version, and it clears up the ambiguity. However, I have read plausible,
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at least semi-convincing arguments that bi-sesquicentennial is an acceptable term,
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and it has become one of the more popular terms, though I'm stretching the definition of popular
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probably a little too far. Thank you for your fraternal correction. I accept, I partially accept
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it, though I might continue to say bi-sesquicentennial. I will be bi-lexical when it comes to the term for
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the 250th. Is anybody still with us here? I don't know if I'm still with me. It's Fake Headline Friday.
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What was it like, Merlin, to be alone with God?
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Merlin, I knew your father. I am yet convinced that he was not of this world.
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You are my father, that the gods should war for my soul.
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There is a new pirate work in the world. I've seen it.
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He's waiting on Merlin, and I think you can give him one.
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Trust in Yezu. He is the only hope for men like us.
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Faith to Britain never rests in the hands of the great light.
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Great light, great darkness. Such things mattered to me then.
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How many lives must be lost before you accept the power you were born to wield?
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So clinging to the promises of a god who has abandoned you.