The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 192 - A Tale Told By An Idiot, Full Of Sound And Fury, Signifying Nothing

00:00:00.520 Democrat conspiracy theorists come up empty on Russia.

00:00:03.940 Democrat superstar and socialist empty head Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

00:00:08.600 embarrasses herself on television again.

00:00:11.200 I blame Ali Stuckey. I always blame Ali Stuckey.

00:00:14.040 And everything is looking great for Republicans heading into the midterms.

00:00:17.900 So the left is resorting to rehashing long-dead history and renaming entire cities 1.00

00:00:23.760 because leftism is nothing but a tale told by an idiot, 1.00

00:00:27.080 full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. 1.00

00:00:29.360 We'll talk about that.

00:00:30.520 We will talk about the sound and fury of leftism with comedian Jamie Kilstein

00:00:35.080 when he comes on the show to discuss how he broke his addiction to SJW online slacktivism.

00:00:41.420 Jamie is a true breath of fresh air in Hollywood, even for a lefty.

00:00:46.020 Finally, we will discuss why entitlements are impossible to repeal on this day in history.

00:00:50.400 I'm Michael Knowles and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

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00:02:33.280 So the media, they're so sad because they were going to get Trump.

00:02:38.620 They were going to get him.

00:02:39.520 This was going to be the big midterm splash.

00:02:42.460 It was going to create the blue wave.

00:02:44.600 Democrats were going to sail in over all of the crimes,

00:02:48.140 the high crimes and misdemeanors that President Trump committed.

00:02:51.220 What do we have?

00:02:52.040 Mayor Giuliani, take it away.

00:02:53.960 This is very damning for Trump.

00:02:56.240 There's criminal liability here for the president on the horizon with these claims.

00:03:01.320 Wow.

00:03:03.120 It was a lot of laughter.

00:03:04.760 Rudy Giuliani, President Trump's attorney, former New York City mayor.

00:03:08.120 I've been sitting here looking in the federal code trying to find collusion as a crime.

00:03:12.240 It's not.

00:03:12.940 Collusion is not a crime.

00:03:15.580 Collusion is not a crime.

00:03:16.720 We had Professor Alan Dershowitz come on the show the other day to talk about this.

00:03:20.000 It's not a crime.

00:03:21.100 They've been trying to find a crime.

00:03:22.860 They've said there is something with Russia.

00:03:24.480 There's something nefarious.

00:03:25.460 And they've been using this vague word, collusion.

00:03:28.260 President Trump colluded.

00:03:29.260 But that doesn't really mean anything.

00:03:30.680 What is collusion?

00:03:31.940 What is collusion?

00:03:32.400 Where is the crime of collusion defined?

00:03:34.100 Nowhere.

00:03:34.460 Because it's not a crime.

00:03:35.360 It's a vague scare word to try to make you think that President Trump is like Boris from Rocky and Bullwinkle.

00:03:41.400 You know, Boris and Natasha.

00:03:43.200 And so they've been waiting.

00:03:44.780 They said, Manafort's going to get something, isn't he?

00:03:46.960 Or, I'm sorry, Mueller is going to get something.

00:03:48.860 For instance, with the former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort.

00:03:52.460 Or with Papadopoulos.

00:03:53.940 Or with this guy.

00:03:54.820 Or with that guy.

00:03:55.400 We're going to get him.

00:03:56.280 We're going to get him.

00:03:57.120 And they've come up short.

00:03:58.300 They've come up with nothing.

00:03:59.540 Right now, Manafort is heading to trial.

00:04:01.860 And we know what the trial is going to be about.

00:04:05.380 We know this is about Paul Manafort had set up shell companies.

00:04:09.140 We know that he accepted a lot of Ukrainian money.

00:04:12.400 We know that he laundered a little bit of money.

00:04:14.980 He kept it in offshore bank accounts.

00:04:17.400 What has not been mentioned, what all analysts are saying likely will not be mentioned in that Manafort

00:04:22.060 trial is the 2016 election, President Trump, or really Russia at all.

00:04:28.040 That just isn't there.

00:04:28.980 So the big get, the big scalp that special counsel Robert Mueller has so far

00:04:33.280 doesn't seem to have anything to do with what Mueller was appointed to investigate.

00:04:39.020 They got nothing.

00:04:40.280 They've got nothing.

00:04:41.300 And so they keep harping on that vague word.

00:04:43.180 They say, collusion.

00:04:44.340 There's collusion.

00:04:45.460 What's the crime of collusion?

00:04:47.380 Alan Dershowitz came on the show.

00:04:48.640 He said, President Trump could have called up Vladimir Putin, said,

00:04:51.480 hey, Vladdy, I got some favors for you if you can release those emails if you've got them.

00:04:56.320 Even that would not be a crime.

00:04:57.860 Even that is not against the law.

00:04:59.300 So they've really come up empty.

00:05:01.440 CNN knows this.

00:05:02.380 CNN knows this.

00:05:03.040 They ran a headline this morning.

00:05:04.840 I took a screenshot of it.

00:05:05.960 I love it.

00:05:06.620 This is a big headline on Apple News. 0.97

00:05:08.520 And I take a CNN screenshot almost every day because they get more and more ridiculous. 0.53

00:05:12.160 The headline was, Trump opens window into his rage with Mueller attack. 0.76

00:05:18.520 That's the news headline.

00:05:19.780 That was on Apple News, like the main thing when I woke up this morning.

00:05:23.020 And I think they might be projecting a little bit.

00:05:25.260 I think CNN is opening a window into its own rage because they can't get anything on Trump.

00:05:30.420 They aren't able to impeach him.

00:05:31.940 He hasn't committed a crime.

00:05:33.880 So they say, whenever you read that Trump opens the window into his rage,

00:05:38.180 is that like poetry or is that, you know, the beginning to a novel or is that the news?

00:05:43.920 It's certainly not the news.

00:05:45.560 This brings us to the next peg.

00:05:47.820 They were really hoping, okay, we can't get anything with President Trump.

00:05:50.500 We don't have any crimes that he committed with Russia.

00:05:52.560 So we're going to run our superstar, energetic candidate, the far left,

00:05:58.400 running on the Democrat wing of the Democrat Party.

00:06:00.760 She's going to sail us to victory, except she doesn't know anything.

00:06:04.460 Here is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

00:06:06.440 But one of the things that we saw is if people pay their fair share,

00:06:12.540 if corporations and the ultra-wealthy, for example, as Warren Buffett likes to say,

00:06:18.160 if he paid as much as his secretary paid, 15%, if he paid a 15% tax rate.

00:06:25.180 Warren Buffett pays millions and millions and millions of dollars in taxes.

00:06:28.800 His secretary pays presumably, I don't know, tens of thousands of dollars in taxes, if that.

00:06:33.020 But also, she said, you know, that we've got to get him to pay 15%.

00:06:36.540 Now, she actually messes up the Democrat talking point on this. 1.00

00:06:41.140 The Democrat talking point is that the zillionaires are only paying 15%.

00:06:44.160 They should pay more.

00:06:45.180 They should pay 30%.

00:06:46.080 So she doesn't even get the talking point right.

00:06:47.960 But the talking point is also totally wrong.

00:06:50.880 Warren Buffett's effective tax rate is around 31%.

00:06:54.220 His secretary's effective tax rate is around 21%.

00:06:57.020 And when you're talking about 31% of the millions and millions of dollars Warren Buffett makes every year,

00:07:02.760 that's a lot more money than the 21% of the, who knows, $100,000 that his secretary makes.

00:07:07.580 Or less.

00:07:08.160 Who knows how much she makes.

00:07:09.940 So that just isn't true.

00:07:12.160 Part of the reason that they get away with this talking point is they ignore that,

00:07:16.260 first of all, Warren Buffett makes most of his money on capital gains, right?

00:07:20.100 Capital gains, investment income.

00:07:22.420 But that money's already been taxed at the corporate level.

00:07:25.520 That money has been taxed in many places before you get to that number.

00:07:29.060 So that is simply not true.

00:07:31.300 She goes on, though.

00:07:32.160 Let's bring on some more untruths from Ms. Ocasio-Cortez.

00:07:36.580 If corporations paid, if we reversed the tax bill but raised our corporate tax rate to 28%,

00:07:45.100 which is not even as high as it was before.

00:07:47.100 Right.

00:07:47.280 If we do those two things and also close some of those loopholes, that's $2 trillion right there.

00:07:54.000 That's $2 trillion in 10 years.

00:07:56.140 And it's one of the wide estimates is that it's going to take $3 to $4 trillion to transition us to 100% renewable energy economy.

00:08:03.320 So we got $2 trillion from folks paying their fair share, which they were not paying before the Trump tax bill.

00:08:09.320 Right.

00:08:09.480 They weren't paying that before the Trump tax bill.

00:08:13.400 If we get people to pay their fair share, that's $2 trillion in 10 years.

00:08:17.600 Now, if we implement a carbon tax on top of that so that we can transition and financially incentivize people away from fossil fuels.

00:08:26.480 If we implement a carbon tax, that's an additional amount of a large amount of revenue that we can have.

00:08:34.080 And then the last key, which is extremely, extremely important, is reprioritization.

00:08:39.700 Just last year, we gave the military a $700 billion budget increase, which they didn't even ask for.

00:08:47.760 They're like, we don't want another fighter jet.

00:08:50.920 They're like, don't give us another nuclear bomb.

00:08:54.040 They didn't even ask for it, and we gave it to them.

00:08:58.700 So none of that is true.

00:09:00.160 None of what she just said is true.

00:09:02.200 But also, why do they put her on TV? 1.00

00:09:04.720 They can't blame this one on Ali Stuckey.

00:09:06.520 They try to blame these things. 1.00

00:09:07.740 They say the conservative made her look stupid. 1.00

00:09:09.420 She's on The Daily Show. 1.00

00:09:10.540 She's on the left-wing program with Trevor Noah.

00:09:12.660 And she goes and she says things that aren't true.

00:09:15.220 She says them in a way that is not very flattering. 0.97

00:09:17.480 And she has those crazy eyes. 0.95

00:09:18.860 This does not help her.

00:09:19.720 So my advice, having been in politics for a little bit at least, is Miss Ocasio-Cortez, 0.75

00:09:25.500 you should lock yourself in a closet until election day.

00:09:27.840 The election is yours, and you're only hurting yourself.

00:09:30.320 But then my selfish advice is keep going on the shows.

00:09:32.900 Come on my show.

00:09:33.600 Come on my show anytime.

00:09:34.420 We'll talk.

00:09:35.020 It would be great.

00:09:35.840 I'd love to have you out there.

00:09:36.900 You should become the mascot of the Democrat Party.

00:09:40.300 None of it's true.

00:09:41.120 None of what she just said is true.

00:09:42.200 So she said that there was a $700 billion increase in the Pentagon budget last year.

00:09:46.240 That isn't true.

00:09:47.180 $700 billion is the total size of the Pentagon budget.

00:09:50.100 There was an increase.

00:09:51.000 It was about $61 billion last year.

00:09:53.560 So the entire budget with that increase is $700 billion.

00:09:57.820 That's just 16.9% of the federal budget.

00:10:01.000 That's not a lot of the federal budget.

00:10:02.400 When you figure that the government's first duty is to protect us, 16% or 17% isn't a whole lot.

00:10:10.200 The entire federal budget is $4.15 trillion.

00:10:13.020 Also, the Pentagon did ask for that budget increase.

00:10:16.980 James Mattis asked personally.

00:10:18.520 He said, America can afford survival.

00:10:21.240 We need more money.

00:10:22.020 Tens of billions of dollars, more money.

00:10:24.220 Also notice in that clip when she's talking about the way she's going to pay for these programs of hers, she gets so excited.

00:10:30.500 They say, how are you going to pay for it?

00:10:31.500 She goes, we can institute this tax.

00:10:34.220 Oh, and then we can institute that tax.

00:10:36.160 Oh, and we've got some more taxes that we can, taxes.

00:10:39.180 Yes, we can swim around in all the taxes.

00:10:41.160 The trouble is the money doesn't work.

00:10:42.860 The numbers don't work for her. 0.67

00:10:44.240 This should not be surprising because she's, every time she goes on TV, she seems to say something that isn't true.

00:10:49.240 But she certainly, she makes it very clear in this particular instance.

00:10:53.640 She says, when Trevor Noah asks her, how are you going to pay for this?

00:10:57.120 She says, well, if we raise this tax and that tax and this tax, we can raise $2 trillion in revenue over 10 years.

00:11:04.900 This is important because when people hear trillion, billion, 10 years, that,

00:11:09.040 people lose sight of the scales of money that we're talking about, the orders of magnitude difference that we're talking about.

00:11:14.220 And Ms. Ocasio-Cortez appears not to be so swift in math either.

00:11:17.860 $2 trillion in 10 years is $200 billion a year.

00:11:22.080 One of her proposals is Medicare for all.

00:11:25.220 Socialized medicine, socialist health care, everybody is going to be covered by a Medicare-like program.

00:11:30.100 The Mercatus Center at George Mason University estimates the cost of this would be $32.6 trillion over the course of 10 years.

00:11:40.520 That is $3.2, $3.3 trillion per year.

00:11:46.220 The amount of money that Ocasio-Cortez says that she can raise by all of these taxes, and these are her rosy estimates, is $200 billion.

00:11:52.700 That is more than an order of magnitude off.

00:11:55.820 Where are you going to pay for the other 93% or the 90-plus percent that you need to pay for?

00:12:02.040 She doesn't have an answer for that.

00:12:03.660 To put this in perspective, by the way, Medicare for all will cost, according to this study from George Mason, $3.3 trillion per year.

00:12:12.840 Last year, the entire tax receipts paid by American citizens to the federal government was $3.3 trillion.

00:12:20.480 It was that same amount.

00:12:21.580 You would have to double the taxes on Americans, double them, not increase by 5%, not increase by 20%.

00:12:27.420 Double the taxes paid to the federal government to pay for Medicare for all.

00:12:32.820 That doesn't seem like a great case.

00:12:34.300 It doesn't seem like an easy argument for Democrats to make.

00:12:36.460 It doesn't sound like a winning argument.

00:12:37.800 So what are they doing?

00:12:39.080 They're trying to ignore the reality.

00:12:42.540 We know now that we have 4.1 GDP, 4.1% GDP growth in the last quarter.

00:12:47.660 However, the Obama economists told us this was impossible.

00:12:50.820 This isn't going to happen.

00:12:51.840 It happened.

00:12:52.700 Joblessness is at record lows.

00:12:54.080 Black unemployment in particular is at record lows, which means that the Democrats can't even race hustle going into the election.

00:12:59.540 Crime is down.

00:13:00.720 Hate crime is down.

00:13:02.020 I don't use that phrase a lot because all crime is hate crime.

00:13:04.180 But even that, even racially motivated or whatever, all of that is down.

00:13:08.540 There's a religious liberty task force that is being instituted by the Department of Justice.

00:13:13.820 They're trying to spin this as a racial thing. 0.78

00:13:16.060 But the trouble is that black people and Hispanic people and mixed race Americans are more likely to be religious than white Americans.

00:13:23.140 So you can't even spin that.

00:13:24.780 And President Trump's approval rating has just ticked up to 47%.

00:13:28.400 It's ticked up higher than it was previously at 45%.

00:13:31.280 The way that Democrats are going to try to win this election is by doubling down, rehashing history, spinning false narratives, and getting into the politics of personal destruction.

00:13:41.320 We're already seeing it happen.

00:13:42.860 And we'll get a little bit to that later.

00:13:45.160 I mean, they're going to great lengths to do this.

00:13:47.100 They're trying to rename the city of Austin.

00:13:48.580 So we'll get to that in a little bit.

00:13:50.620 Before we do that, I want to thank on a very courageous man, courageous for a number of reasons.

00:13:55.660 But one, because he's one of the few Democrats who's actually agreed to come on my show, Jamie Kilstein.

00:14:00.500 Jamie, thanks for being here, man.

00:14:01.760 How are you?

00:14:02.260 I appreciate it.

00:14:03.000 You are one of the few.

00:14:04.280 It's you and Tom Arnold, basically.

00:14:06.840 And Tom Arnold is sort of in a class of his own.

00:14:09.180 I'm going to put that on my resume now.

00:14:10.740 Just Tom Arnold's picture next to me.

00:14:12.500 I'm sort of like Tom Arnold.

00:14:14.860 Yeah.

00:14:15.080 Thank you for being here.

00:14:16.040 Yeah, no thanks.

00:14:16.880 Jamie, you are, you're a lefty.

00:14:20.160 Yeah.

00:14:20.700 You're not a conservative.

00:14:21.640 No.

00:14:22.220 You're decided, and you were.

00:14:23.840 Well, we purposely kept me out of here for the headlines just so we could actually do the interview.

00:14:28.640 And I wasn't like, hey, I have a list of grievances with you.

00:14:31.200 But you weren't just a run-of-the-mill lefty.

00:14:37.000 You wrote for the Huffington Post.

00:14:38.760 You were a woke comedian.

00:14:40.860 I was very woke.

00:14:41.260 And when you play clubs and all that.

00:14:42.820 Yeah.

00:14:43.040 And that has changed recently.

00:14:45.960 Yeah.

00:14:46.320 What's that about?

00:14:46.980 I mean, part of it is like, even when I came here.

00:14:50.740 So when I came here, this is the first, like I've done Rogan's show who has had people from both sides of the aisle on.

00:14:59.220 Yeah.

00:14:59.340 But this is definitely the first like conservative show.

00:15:02.700 Right, of Attila the Hunt.

00:15:03.820 Yeah.

00:15:04.360 And even, I was going to say, even when I said conservative, I had to put it in quotes because I'm so not used to saying that word.

00:15:09.040 And, hey, everyone here has been lovely and really nice.

00:15:13.680 And I don't know what I expected, especially like being in Los Angeles.

00:15:16.860 Just like Nazi gremlins coming out of the wall. 0.73

00:15:18.880 Yeah. 0.63

00:15:18.940 I mean, kind of.

00:15:19.980 That's what I thought.

00:15:20.640 And it would just be like in a dumpster.

00:15:22.880 And everyone.

00:15:23.980 That was our old set.

00:15:25.220 Oh, good, good, good. 0.99

00:15:25.840 The Nazi dumpster. 0.99

00:15:26.700 Yeah.

00:15:26.840 I saw it on my way over here in a back alley, in a back alley where other people are getting the legal abortions.

00:15:31.540 Of course.

00:15:31.900 Yeah, that's where they get.

00:15:32.920 That's right.

00:15:33.500 That's right.

00:15:33.780 And I, and everyone here has been nice.

00:15:37.220 Very nice and lovely.

00:15:38.420 You're shocked by this.

00:15:39.720 I'm shocked.

00:15:40.280 I was shocked by when we were talking before the show and you were like, yeah, man, I really like Norm MacDonald.

00:15:46.520 And I was like, you people like comedy?

00:15:48.560 You guys laugh?

00:15:49.360 Yeah.

00:15:49.900 And I heard, I thought you just laughed at like, like Mexican children in cages.

00:15:53.680 And I, Jordan Peterson, when he was on Rogan, I think, no, no, no.

00:15:57.260 He was on Theo Vaughn's show.

00:15:59.980 And he was like, yeah, I really like a comedian Mitch Hedberg.

00:16:03.000 And I was like, what?

00:16:04.460 Like my mind was blown.

00:16:06.780 And ever since I kind of stepped away from being political, what I've tried to do is just be like, how do I be a better person?

00:16:16.300 And I started listening to not even political voices, really, but I started listening to like Tim Ferriss's show or Rogan's more or Jocko Wilnick.

00:16:26.540 And I realized that back in the day, and I'm not, I didn't hang out with like moderate liberals.

00:16:32.460 Like it was very left of left.

00:16:33.860 Like the left of Lenin, the woke bros.

00:16:36.080 It was like, yeah, like if you told someone you were depressed, they were like, that's a microaggression towards me.

00:16:41.120 And you're like, cool, I don't know what to do anymore.

00:16:43.620 How is depression a microaggression?

00:16:45.280 I don't know, man.

00:16:46.120 Because it makes me sad right now.

00:16:47.920 And I just want to live in like my like bubble.

00:16:50.260 Happy land.

00:16:50.960 Yeah.

00:16:51.340 It's very, it's a very much a bubble.

00:16:53.400 I mean, you, because you, we're joking about this.

00:16:55.240 You say, I'm shocked that you guys were nice.

00:16:56.780 We're half joking about this.

00:16:58.340 Yeah, yeah.

00:16:58.800 I'm not real.

00:16:59.600 Like, this is a real thing.

00:17:00.860 This bubble is how, because I think conservatives are shocked by this.

00:17:04.520 It really just because conservatives usually don't have the opportunity to be in a bubble in so much as the culture is kind of a left wing culture.

00:17:13.080 So when you're in, so you kind of hear the left wing point of view, especially, you know, I lived in New York, L.A., Haven, right?

00:17:19.680 I mean, these are pretty left wing places.

00:17:21.540 Yeah.

00:17:21.780 I mean, I always disagreed with that because like right now it's like, well, the government is being run by conservatives, right?

00:17:27.280 And, and, but, but you're right when it comes to narratives, when it comes to loud voices, especially on social media, that's kind of like our turf.

00:17:35.960 And if I were to, you know, listening to all these shows, like becoming friends with you, you know, and, and hearing other people's points of views, especially like, here's what I learned from Jocko.

00:17:49.560 Nothing about the military, just about how like discipline's good.

00:17:53.960 And I thought sort of like discipline was like some like evil right wing word.

00:17:59.360 And it's like, no, that's really good.

00:18:01.060 Like makes your life better.

00:18:02.320 Yeah.

00:18:02.820 Responsibility, like me, like taking responsibility or like the words like honor or family.

00:18:07.220 It's weird that even those, those words would, should be very positive things have been sort of turned into conservative talking points.

00:18:16.800 Right.

00:18:17.020 And so when I started listening to these people who were kind of demonized by my tribe, I was like, well, they say a lot of stuff I really like and I agree with.

00:18:25.900 Like Jordan Peterson's a really great example.

00:18:27.460 Like when I first heard him, I literally thought I was going to be listening to like Nazi propaganda.

00:18:34.160 And he was like.

00:18:34.540 He just saves that for his private company.

00:18:35.820 For his private, yeah.

00:18:36.460 It's not for public.

00:18:37.120 That's for the Patreon subscribers.

00:18:39.140 Yeah.

00:18:39.920 You've got to pay extra to get that.

00:18:41.220 But he was like, walk with your shoulders back and have confidence and clean up your room.

00:18:47.980 And I'm like, man, so many young men.

00:18:50.180 I needed to hear that stuff.

00:18:51.460 Like there are a lot of young men who need to hear that.

00:18:53.400 And even me right now saying young men, well, I shouldn't be talking about young men because there are also like Mexican transgender people that I should be talking about.

00:19:00.640 And I think that we should be talking about like all people and how to be better towards all people.

00:19:08.520 And me and you disagree on how to do it.

00:19:12.600 But what I'm starting to learn by talking to more conservatives or libertarians is we still want people to be happy and healthy and safe.

00:19:22.680 And if we don't talk about why we disagree on the policy, we're never going to actually get to solutions.

00:19:29.380 You know what I mean?

00:19:30.100 How widespread is it, do you think, on the left that they legitimately think right-wingers are Nazis or hateful or...

00:19:38.280 I think it's very...

00:19:40.560 Because I did.

00:19:41.600 That's interesting.

00:19:42.380 So what changed?

00:19:43.740 I mean, what burst this bubble for you?

00:19:46.240 And you said, I'm breaking my SJW Twitter addiction.

00:19:50.020 What did it?

00:19:50.720 Well, I mean, they started to hate me.

00:19:52.640 I mean, a lot of things.

00:19:54.020 That'll do it.

00:19:54.540 I was in it for a long time.

00:19:57.700 I said this on Rogan's, but one of my sort of like tipping points was my old show, which was very, very progressive.

00:20:05.760 We had this kid right in who...

00:20:07.880 Not kid, a man right in who was like, I went to the doctor and I was essentially going to die.

00:20:15.140 He told me I was going to die and I have children and I have to do something with my health.

00:20:19.120 What was wrong with it?

00:20:20.160 He was incredibly overweight.

00:20:21.480 Overweight.

00:20:21.840 Overweight, unhealthy.

00:20:22.800 Unhealthy, yeah.

00:20:24.760 And so I do jujitsu.

00:20:28.920 I teach jujitsu and mixed martial arts.

00:20:31.060 And so I got his personal email.

00:20:33.060 I found him a gym in, I think it was like Baltimore.

00:20:35.960 And I wrote him out like this whole like diet thing or like here's what you should stop eating.

00:20:41.160 You know, fast food, soda, all that stuff.

00:20:42.500 And, you know, heard back from him maybe like eight months, ten months later.

00:20:49.940 Writes into the show and is literally like, my life has changed.

00:20:53.460 My doctor was like shocked.

00:20:55.440 I'm going to be okay if I keep this up.

00:20:57.220 I entered my first like white belt jujitsu tournament.

00:20:59.560 Like my kids are so proud of me.

00:21:00.740 And I'm like in tears reading this.

00:21:02.280 Because you did this.

00:21:02.980 You know, I do Krav Maga or jujitsu as I call it.

00:21:07.080 It's the similar, different emphasis, you know.

00:21:09.400 So he does this because of you, totally changes his life.

00:21:12.060 Totally changes his life.

00:21:13.560 And, you know, I had a really hard childhood and a struggle like making a name for myself

00:21:19.480 and comedy and all this stuff.

00:21:21.400 A lot of it because I was very political.

00:21:24.220 And I'm like choking back tears because I'm like, man, all the garbage I went through is worth it.

00:21:29.400 Like this is what I want to do.

00:21:30.340 We can read bad news every day from the news or read Twitter or talk about who we're mad at.

00:21:36.800 But like this was one of the first times I felt like I actually did something

00:21:40.200 and wasn't just shouting into an echo chamber, right?

00:21:42.660 Yeah.

00:21:43.380 So the next day, we get like 10 emails saying that by reading his email,

00:21:52.380 we were fat shaming them.

00:21:55.000 Oh my gosh.

00:21:55.880 And I have never been more livid in my life because we weren't like, so everyone who 0.90

00:22:00.940 doesn't do jujitsu is a fatty and doesn't deserve health care. 0.85

00:22:04.200 We were like, here is a very inspirational story about something very specific that this 0.67

00:22:08.600 one individual decided to do and now he's not going to die.

00:22:12.680 And what I hate about, I guess this is the first time I've publicly said victim culture.

00:22:19.600 Is that what you guys call it?

00:22:20.440 What I hate about it is it's like you would rather other people die than take personal

00:22:25.540 responsibility.

00:22:26.360 Now, what I always say with fat shaming is like, no, you should never make someone feel

00:22:30.380 bad for how they look.

00:22:31.940 There are some bigger people who are actually healthier.

00:22:34.480 Like I have horrible friends who like, like all my like hot friends who have weird hot person

00:22:39.520 metabolism, who can just eat garbage and like, no, I have a bagel and I like put on five

00:22:43.700 pounds.

00:22:44.940 There are people who can be unhealthy.

00:22:46.460 All those prefaces.

00:22:47.600 I gave all those prefaces, all those liberal prefaces.

00:22:50.520 And it wasn't enough.

00:22:51.380 It wasn't enough.

00:22:52.300 And I was like, man, when you would rather somebody, and that's the problem is.

00:22:57.220 Well, it's exhausting.

00:22:58.160 It is exhausting to keep up with whatever the obsession to sure is.

00:23:02.600 And I find the minute I, cause you know, on the rare occasion when I used to work in Hollywood,

00:23:07.560 I keep my mouth shut about politics and you'd have to be very careful.

00:23:10.760 You're always walking on eggshells.

00:23:12.140 What is the new obsession?

00:23:13.200 What is this?

00:23:13.740 It's so liberating to say, look, I'm having a conversation in good faith.

00:23:18.060 I'm not going to be careful and choose my words to the nth degree.

00:23:22.080 I'm just going to look, I'm in good faith.

00:23:23.420 You're in good faith.

00:23:24.080 But it seems to me the left on Twitter, especially, but in that social media, angry mindset, everything

00:23:30.540 is so personal and destructive and angry.

00:23:33.480 Well, and because you, you're not looking at people face to face and you're not looking

00:23:37.880 at them in the eyes and you're not meeting their family and you're not, I mean, I remember

00:23:43.120 my grandparents had pictures of them with George Bush, with Pat Robertson.

00:23:50.720 And when I was like, Jamie, where did you go wrong?

00:23:52.440 I know, right?

00:23:52.680 You come from good stock.

00:23:53.920 What's going on?

00:23:54.640 I know, I know.

00:23:55.280 At my angstiest, I went to stay with them because they were going to put me up.

00:23:59.440 Cause of course I was like living out of my car.

00:24:00.780 I was a liberal stereotype too, now that I say this out loud.

00:24:04.000 And they had like, there's like gorgeous house outside of Seattle.

00:24:06.160 And I was just like, sellouts.

00:24:08.080 Can I stay?

00:24:09.160 I'm authentic.

00:24:10.100 I'm living there.

00:24:10.820 What's dinner?

00:24:11.320 I'm so cold.

00:24:11.560 Feed me.

00:24:12.800 But I walked in and I was ready to like throw down with them.

00:24:16.220 Or I'm like, here we go.

00:24:17.120 And they were lovely.

00:24:19.120 Cause they're my grandparents.

00:24:20.440 And I so disagree with them.

00:24:22.960 And I so disagree with you on a, on a lot of things, but the more tribalized we get

00:24:29.400 and like, dude, I had a blast talking to you before the show.

00:24:32.640 Like I haven't had that much fun talking to someone in like a while.

00:24:35.280 And I'm a very charming person.

00:24:36.780 Yeah, you're very charming.

00:24:37.420 I'm very.

00:24:38.480 But then when, when I, and I also realized, by the way, when I started just hanging out

00:24:42.680 with like jujitsu guys, instead of just liberal progressives, I'm like, oh, this is actually

00:24:46.780 the first time I've been around minorities in a really long time for as much as we talk

00:24:50.400 about like being like woke and being like intersectional or whatever.

00:24:54.080 But all of my friends in college who were like the college Democrats, the woke activists,

00:24:58.680 it was all, it was all white kids of hedge fund managers and all, they were all there,

00:25:03.420 you know, paying full tuition.

00:25:04.360 You know, guys, you're yelling at me about racial diversity.

00:25:08.160 I, I don't see a whole lot of racial diversity going on.

00:25:10.340 Right.

00:25:10.660 And they're like, hold on, I have to go back to my, my grandparents' house and get more

00:25:13.520 food.

00:25:14.000 It was me.

00:25:15.220 But I, what I realized was that talking to people I disagree with, I still can get along

00:25:21.980 with them.

00:25:22.700 And when you look at, for your audience, when you look at like, when you're having a real

00:25:26.800 conversation with like one of your liberal friends and you're not just saying, if you voted

00:25:30.420 for Trump, unfriend me on Facebook.

00:25:31.940 Or when I'm having a conversation with you or with libertarians or people who don't vote

00:25:38.460 or whatever, you realize that like, and this sounds super like, like stoner, I just saw

00:25:44.000 fish this weekend.

00:25:45.080 But I stand by it, which is you realize that like, we all are hopefully trying to be better

00:25:51.600 people.

00:25:52.040 We all want to take care of our families.

00:25:53.560 We all want to pet the dog we see, you know.

00:25:56.520 You know what I think though?

00:25:57.440 I think ideology is an excuse not to be a better person.

00:26:01.120 They use it, I see it all the time.

00:26:03.220 And this began, again, because I'm not like a real kumbaya, it's all, it's everybody's

00:26:08.040 problem, man.

00:26:08.640 I see this largely on the left.

00:26:10.860 Not exclusively, but largely.

00:26:12.620 Because in the 1960s, the left said, the personal is the political.

00:26:16.580 The private is the political.

00:26:17.760 That was that big feminist essay, 1970, 1969. 0.95

00:26:20.160 And so every aspect of life became this political moment.

00:26:24.940 And the thing I try to do in my own life, because there is an ideological version of

00:26:30.780 conservatism, which I try to eschew, I try not to do it, because when you're in that

00:26:35.520 fight, I know this working on campaigns, you're in that fight, you just want the lower taxes

00:26:40.940 or whatever, right?

00:26:41.680 You just want, I'm going to, once we lower taxes, then everything's going to be great.

00:26:45.260 And you'll do it and you're in the fight and then you lower the taxes.

00:26:48.300 And then what?

00:26:49.960 And then what?

00:26:50.620 You know, if you're on the left, you say this, we've got to pass this new speech code.

00:26:55.580 And once we do that, but life is, of course, much more than those things.

00:27:00.380 It's much more than politics.

00:27:01.640 And once you do it, you've got to look at yourself in the mirror and say, well, what

00:27:06.060 am I now?

00:27:06.660 What do I do now?

00:27:07.360 That was the thing where I was the most depressed.

00:27:09.920 I mean, dude, there were times where my mom would call me and I'm like, oh, I can't take

00:27:14.460 this phone call.

00:27:15.140 I'm tweeting about feminism. 0.99

00:27:16.500 And it's like, she's a woman.

00:27:18.300 Pick up the phone.

00:27:19.300 She needs your help.

00:27:20.380 She's the woman who made you, too.

00:27:21.260 She's an actual lady right now. 1.00

00:27:23.260 And I'm like, yeah, but I don't get famous people retweeting me.

00:27:26.240 That's right, yeah.

00:27:26.660 If I'm like, talk to my mom today.

00:27:28.540 I need to talk about the ism.

00:27:29.760 I can't talk about the people.

00:27:30.960 I've got to do the ism.

00:27:31.800 And like, yeah, talking about my mom is like a very lame virtue signaling.

00:27:35.580 And but I I want to I kind of stop talking about politics and like, look, we do have I

00:27:42.900 really strongly believe that we do have institutional problems in this country.

00:27:52.320 But I also believe that we can we some we will use that as an excuse to, yeah, not take care

00:27:57.800 of ourselves.

00:27:58.240 And because, again, personal responsibility is a very Republican word.

00:28:01.140 Right.

00:28:01.980 And so I love it.

00:28:03.080 I love that we got that.

00:28:04.180 It's weird.

00:28:04.920 I think that you wouldn't be able to get something like that.

00:28:07.440 It's weird.

00:28:07.760 Yeah.

00:28:07.900 We're the party of good.

00:28:09.280 Yeah.

00:28:09.580 Yeah.

00:28:10.220 Good is a Republican byword.

00:28:12.100 You got discipline.

00:28:12.880 Yeah.

00:28:13.140 You got that life.

00:28:14.240 We got life.

00:28:14.720 You got that.

00:28:15.500 We got good stuff.

00:28:17.620 Yeah.

00:28:18.160 And the problem is when I stopped, when I got off Twitter and maybe it has less to do

00:28:23.860 with politics and more with just social media.

00:28:25.340 I mean, because I do think that social media was important because a bunch of people who

00:28:29.300 felt marginalized, whether it be trans people, whether it be people of color, they found

00:28:32.260 a voice and they found a community.

00:28:33.580 Right.

00:28:33.940 Because they they were, you know, you barely saw transgender activists like on the news, 1.00

00:28:39.120 even on like very liberal on MSNBC.

00:28:41.880 Just Chaz Bono, basically.

00:28:43.520 Every so often would be on CNN.

00:28:45.820 And and so so they had a voice.

00:28:48.080 And now suddenly you have a voice after being marginalized for so long that you're going

00:28:52.920 to run with it.

00:28:54.180 And the problem is when so for me and I can just speak for me and I am a very white, straight

00:29:00.260 male.

00:29:01.600 I was very depressed when I lived in New York and I didn't have I was in a rough relationship

00:29:08.200 and I didn't really like get along with my friends and I was struggling with comedy.

00:29:11.920 And so I would wake up every day and I would open Twitter and I would be like, who are

00:29:15.700 we mad at?

00:29:16.260 And I would see who's trending and I'd be like, OK, so it's this like conservative writer

00:29:19.640 or it's this moderate Democrat writer who's not being left enough.

00:29:22.380 Cool.

00:29:22.740 I don't have time to read the articles because I slept till 11 because I'm depressed.

00:29:26.400 And so I'm sure I'm going to be pissed off.

00:29:28.260 Yeah.

00:29:28.540 So I read the headline.

00:29:29.640 Right.

00:29:29.940 And you read the headline.

00:29:30.760 You read headlines about me.

00:29:31.720 I look awful.

00:29:32.640 You read the articles and you go, oh, I don't get it.

00:29:35.120 And I read the headline and I'm like, all right, I got to formulate a joke off the headline

00:29:39.700 because like time's ticking and we're going to move on to the next person.

00:29:42.900 So then you come up with a line and you at this person you don't even know.

00:29:45.900 I mean, geez, I still have a screenshot of like Josh Marshall from Talking Points Memo

00:29:50.080 writing FU Freedom Fighter to me because I was harassing him while he was at the beach with

00:29:54.520 his kids.

00:29:55.280 And I'm like, ha ha.

00:29:56.600 And who won?

00:29:57.860 Neither of us.

00:29:58.560 He should have been in the ocean with his kids.

00:29:59.980 I should have been outside instead of like angrily on Twitter, not talking to my wife,

00:30:05.220 not talking to my family, ignoring my poor mom.

00:30:08.000 And yeah, and what happens is you do that to feel like a good person because you're like,

00:30:12.860 I am righteously shouting into the ether.

00:30:15.060 But in reality, even when I wrote something that I believe in, if I tweeted Black Lives 0.94

00:30:18.700 Matter, I believe that.

00:30:19.860 I think matter is a very low bar.

00:30:22.100 They're not saying Wakanda forever.

00:30:23.720 They're saying like, treat us like people, right?

00:30:25.940 See, I'm more on the Wakanda forever train.

00:30:27.680 Well, that would be awesome.

00:30:28.420 Who could argue with that?

00:30:29.260 That's a lot of nationalism.

00:30:30.200 I wouldn't argue with that.

00:30:31.460 And, but I would tweet it and then I would just refresh it to see who liked it and see

00:30:37.280 how many new followers I got.

00:30:37.860 This is the addiction.

00:30:38.680 This is the addiction.

00:30:39.280 That's where the addiction comes in.

00:30:40.720 And I was doing that instead of learning how to be a better person, instead of volunteering

00:30:47.500 my time with like an actual charity that would do something.

00:30:49.760 Instead of doing comedy.

00:30:50.160 Instead of doing comedy.

00:30:51.080 Instead of making people happy.

00:30:52.160 Instead of teaching more people jujitsu would save this kid's life.

00:30:56.180 But I don't want to fat shame them by like teaching them jujitsu.

00:30:59.260 And so.

00:31:00.200 Well, you've got to teach the lefties how to laugh though.

00:31:02.100 If you do that, that would be another thing that would change their lives.

00:31:04.220 Hey man.

00:31:04.680 This brings me to my, because then I'll let you go.

00:31:07.000 I've taken a lot of your time.

00:31:07.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:31:08.580 Are, are you ever going to work in this town again?

00:31:11.540 I mean, because you're, it's not like you're a conservative.

00:31:13.840 No.

00:31:14.020 You're like a left-wing guy.

00:31:15.860 What I forgot about comedy is that the majority of comedy is, a lot of it is, and this is

00:31:23.940 what, this is what I missed.

00:31:27.280 Which is, a lot of comedy is, and why I love comics is they are so open and they're so honest

00:31:33.480 about their screw-ups, their, their messed up thoughts and their vulnerabilities.

00:31:37.520 And my old crew didn't, is crew a cultural appropriation?

00:31:44.260 Yeah, that's, we're appropriating Harvard culture.

00:31:46.180 My old group of friends, um, weren't like that because we were so busy shouting at other

00:31:52.020 people that, um, a lot of us wouldn't, um, me, I can just say me, um, wouldn't talk about

00:31:58.240 our own flaws or examine our own flaws.

00:32:00.000 And what I loved about spending this year hanging out with athletes is athletes are constantly

00:32:04.400 trying to, um, improve and they are using, uh, discipline and they're reading biographies

00:32:10.000 about like great leaders and like the men aren't afraid to say that like, yeah, being a

00:32:13.980 man is good and that doesn't mean that you have to be oppressing, that means that like

00:32:17.340 you want to like take care of like your family and like you want to like be strong and like

00:32:22.060 be brave and like, and that's not a bad thing.

00:32:23.920 And those are qualities that women can have too, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. 1.00

00:32:27.420 I'm so used to having to give a million prefaces before.

00:32:30.180 Yeah, you don't need, you, you don't need the prefaces here. 0.99

00:32:32.440 This is why I'm literally.

00:32:33.100 This is a safe space.

00:32:33.780 Great.

00:32:34.120 Oh, good.

00:32:34.360 We're in a safe space now.

00:32:35.560 Good.

00:32:35.840 Don't trigger me.

00:32:36.520 Uh, I'm so afraid to have a kid because I think his first words are literally just going

00:32:40.360 to be like, I'm sorry.

00:32:41.160 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, don't you?

00:32:42.280 I'm sorry.

00:32:42.880 Well.

00:32:43.000 But I honestly think that like, if you just, if you spend your life figuring out how you

00:32:49.380 can be a good person and if you take care of yourself first, um, which I always thought

00:32:54.620 was selfish, you are going to be in a much better place to take care of other people

00:32:59.200 and to help other people.

00:33:00.400 And I think people need to think about how much time are you spending on Twitter attacking

00:33:05.000 people instead of making stuff, instead of helping people, instead of having like looking

00:33:09.880 like the person bringing up your groceries in the eye instead of just being like, I'm tweeting

00:33:14.080 about the minimum wage.

00:33:15.220 It's like, well, cool.

00:33:15.940 You're ignoring the person who's in front of you right now.

00:33:18.860 Speaking of Norm Macdonald, he had one of the greatest observations I've ever seen on

00:33:22.560 Twitter.

00:33:22.940 Yeah.

00:33:23.160 He said, I've, uh, I'm paraphrasing.

00:33:26.040 I've now realized that Twitter is an excellent place to tell people that you don't like them

00:33:31.120 very much.

00:33:32.460 That's the purpose of it.

00:33:33.360 Yeah, that's it.

00:33:33.960 And now you're outside of it in the real world.

00:33:35.540 And hopefully, uh, you'll continue to work.

00:33:38.020 They won't blacklist you.

00:33:38.900 I hope so.

00:33:39.040 Where can people find you?

00:33:39.980 Uh, yes.

00:33:40.680 So if they do blacklist me, everybody, you can support my show.

00:33:43.380 Uh, I have a podcast where I talk about a lot of this stuff.

00:33:45.480 It's far filthier.

00:33:46.360 I found out last minute I couldn't curse.

00:33:47.800 So if you saw me doing this, uh, that's okay.

00:33:50.300 We forgot to tell Tom Arnold that and then we had to bleep the entire show.

00:33:53.480 Great, great, great, great.

00:33:53.860 Uh, it's the Jamie Kilstein podcast.

00:33:55.360 It's free, uh, on, uh, Stitcher and iTunes.

00:33:58.060 And then I'm at Jamie Kilstein on, uh, Twitter.

00:34:01.160 All right, that's it.

00:34:01.860 That's where you go and tweet mean things to Jamie.

00:34:03.700 Don't do it. 1.00

00:34:04.240 You jerk. 1.00

00:34:04.580 I'm so happy now on Twitter. 0.99

00:34:06.220 I didn't give my Instagram because people aren't mean on Instagram because it's just

00:34:09.640 cats and inspirational quotes.

00:34:11.140 I'm going to do, I trust you guys.

00:34:12.560 Cats and sort of derriere.

00:34:13.300 Yeah, prove that conservatives are good. 0.91

00:34:14.880 My Instagram, which is my, my special place, is, uh, Jamie Kilstein podcast.

00:34:18.880 Go to that, go to that safe, special place.

00:34:20.980 Yeah.

00:34:21.260 Uh, Jamie, thanks for being here.

00:34:22.200 Thanks, Mark.

00:34:22.680 All right, we got a second bite of Facebook and YouTube.

00:34:24.440 If you're on Facebook and YouTube, go to Daily Wire and give us your money because we need

00:34:27.900 your money to keep the lights on and covfefe in my cup.

00:34:30.680 Also, because Jamie is known for stealing mugs off of television sets, so I know he's going

00:34:35.420 to take the Leftist Tears Tumblr.

00:34:37.060 Uh, you can, you're going to need this.

00:34:38.360 I mean, these days, you're really going to need it.

00:34:40.120 You've got Ocasio-Cortez going on the Daily Show.

00:34:43.500 You've got collusion not being a crime.

00:34:45.700 You've got Paul Manafort going to jail for, I don't know, for jaywalking in 1971.

00:34:49.820 There are a lot of things that are upsetting the left these days.

00:34:52.440 Go make sure you get this because otherwise you'll drown in the Leftist Tears.

00:34:55.440 Uh, and by the way, you'll, you'll need this because I'm headed to DC.

00:34:59.200 I'm going to the YAF conference in two days.

00:35:01.780 I'll be there on Wednesday.

00:35:03.060 So bring it down there. 0.92

00:35:04.180 We're going to flood the whole, the whole District of Columbia.

00:35:06.700 Go to dailywire.com.

00:35:07.700 We'll be right back.

00:35:18.720 All right, I'm running late as usual.

00:35:20.620 This is like the story of my life.

00:35:21.980 I could, I could have kept Jamie on for another two hours.

00:35:25.020 I mean, that guy is great to talk to.

00:35:26.840 Uh, talk about the like walk away moment or the kind of realizing this, this dark culture

00:35:31.860 of SJW mean tweeting.

00:35:34.640 It's really how liberating it is to be done with that.

00:35:37.280 So one aspect of this talking, talking about delving into the past, the politics of personal

00:35:42.500 destruction, the Democrats have no, uh, nothing to run on in 2018 in the midterm elections.

00:35:48.700 They've got nothing.

00:35:50.240 They don't have the personal crime stuff about Trump.

00:35:52.640 That's fallen flat.

00:35:53.660 Can't run on the economy.

00:35:55.480 Can't run on foreign affairs.

00:35:57.080 ISIS has been destroyed militarily.

00:35:59.360 North Korea is denuclearizing.

00:36:01.360 We've got the satellite images corroborating that.

00:36:04.020 They can't run against trade.

00:36:05.760 We're ironing out our trade deals.

00:36:07.060 The IMF is crediting Trump with, uh, boosting the global economy.

00:36:10.660 They've got nothing to run on.

00:36:12.120 They can't even run on racial division, which they usually try to run on because hate crimes

00:36:16.820 are down, black unemployment is down, joblessness is down.

00:36:20.200 It's all going so well.

00:36:21.700 So what do they do?

00:36:22.720 They dig into the past.

00:36:24.220 Ironically, their own past, because the Democrats are the party of slavery and the Republican 0.57

00:36:28.380 Party was founded to stop the Democrats from owning slaves.

00:36:31.540 That's why it was founded in 1854.

00:36:34.160 So they're delving into the past and they're saying, you know, in the old days, in the olden

00:36:38.280 days, there was slavery.

00:36:39.400 There was racial division.

00:36:40.320 There was segregation.

00:36:41.400 Nevermind that we're the ones who did it.

00:36:42.680 And so we're going to have to rename monuments and rip down monuments and rename streets.

00:36:49.660 And now they want to rename an entire city of Austin, Texas.

00:36:53.240 I kid you not.

00:36:54.000 And the story behind this is insane.

00:36:56.520 So they need to censor. 1.00

00:36:57.540 They need to erase history.

00:36:59.500 What they did is, so Stephen F. Austin, Stephen Austin is the founder of Texas, the father of

00:37:06.960 Texas, you know, an important figure to Austin is named after.

00:37:10.400 They're very angry because he opposed an attempt by Mexico to outlaw slavery in that territory.

00:37:17.000 And he had this comment.

00:37:18.240 He said that freeing all the slaves immediately would turn them into vagabonds, a nuisance,

00:37:23.380 and a menace.

00:37:24.520 Tough words.

00:37:25.580 And so they're now saying we've got to rename Austin and we cannot have this legacy of this

00:37:30.920 slaver.

00:37:32.380 But the thing with Austin is he wasn't a lifetime slave owner.

00:37:35.480 He intermittently owned slaves.

00:37:37.000 He also believed that slavery was morally wrong.

00:37:39.220 He also believed that slavery was contrary to the American founding ideals, that it was

00:37:44.220 anti-American.

00:37:45.340 And he predicted that slavery would cause destruction and ruin for the United States in the long

00:37:50.120 run.

00:37:50.300 He predicted all of those things.

00:37:52.060 His position wasn't very different than Thomas Jefferson or other founding fathers.

00:37:57.080 And by the way, he's right.

00:37:58.120 We're seeing that play out now.

00:37:59.520 Obviously, it caused a lot of destruction during the Civil War, 600,000 Americans dying.

00:38:04.320 But in this long run, it's caused this destruction because it's such an easy target for cynical

00:38:09.720 Democrats who have nothing to run on.

00:38:11.640 So they say, remember slavery?

00:38:12.860 That was bad.

00:38:13.720 Let's rename the whole town.

00:38:15.000 It's insane.

00:38:15.920 This proposal to rename the city of Austin comes from the city of Austin's equity office.

00:38:21.180 And they say, we've got to topple the monuments.

00:38:22.920 We've got to rename seven streets because the streets have names like Plantation Road.

00:38:28.540 One of them was named Barton Springs, this area, Barton Springs.

00:38:32.460 And that was after William Barton, who owned slaves.

00:38:34.780 You've got to rename that.

00:38:35.540 You've got to rename everything.

00:38:37.160 And this never ends.

00:38:38.320 This goes all the way back and it never ends.

00:38:40.600 There are two points on this.

00:38:41.720 One, the city of Austin equity office.

00:38:44.060 Now you see this especially at universities.

00:38:46.280 The office of inclusion and diversity and renaming things.

00:38:49.420 The office of this, the office of that, of tolerance and tolerance and whatever.

00:38:54.500 These guys exist.

00:38:55.720 Their whole job is to cause trouble, to reopen historical scabs, to try to rewrite history, 0.98

00:39:01.320 to try to erase history, to try to create division.

00:39:03.420 That's their whole job.

00:39:04.500 So we can't really blame them when they do that.

00:39:06.480 That's their whole point.

00:39:07.620 That's why they exist.

00:39:08.700 What we should do, though, is perhaps get rid of those jobs.

00:39:11.600 They don't do a lot of great work, you know.

00:39:14.420 The fact that Yale University became a hotbed of racial division and anti-historical activism.

00:39:21.920 Yale University, the best history department in the entire country, has become this place of erasing history.

00:39:26.880 That is because those protests were egged on by the deputy assistant, deputy dean of diversity and inclusion and creating political trouble.

00:39:36.160 You've got to get rid of those things.

00:39:38.900 Because it's just totally contrived.

00:39:42.300 It's total nonsense.

00:39:43.200 And it erases history.

00:39:44.080 There is no end to this.

00:39:45.520 If you're going to erase the name Austin because a guy who fervently believed that slavery was immoral and anti-American also didn't want to abolish slavery immediately,

00:39:57.500 if you're going to erase him, you're going to erase everybody.

00:40:00.340 You are going to erase Washington.

00:40:02.040 You're going to have to rename Washington, D.C.

00:40:03.740 I don't know.

00:40:04.380 I bet Amerigo Vespucci wasn't a great guy.

00:40:06.560 What about did he ever say a mean thing to his wife?

00:40:08.880 Probably have to rename America, won't we?

00:40:10.600 To judge the historical past because they were not perfect people is an incredible thing.

00:40:18.880 One, because you're not perfect.

00:40:20.700 We're not perfect.

00:40:21.900 None of us is perfect.

00:40:22.980 In the course of justice, none of us would see salvation.

00:40:25.700 To quote Portia to Shylock and the Merchant of Venice.

00:40:28.340 It's an impossible standard.

00:40:32.160 It's just going to involve you totally eradicating your tradition and see what happens then.

00:40:36.420 See what happens then when you're just guided by your ideology because ideologies have taken hold and destroyed tradition a number of times in modern history.

00:40:45.200 The French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, Nazi Germany, communist China, on and on.

00:40:51.760 See what happens.

00:40:52.440 Does that lead to human flourishing?

00:40:53.620 Does that lead to human misery?

00:40:54.780 Obviously human misery.

00:40:56.040 Before we go, I would like to direct your attention too to a New York magazine article on this same topic.

00:41:02.600 They have this magazine article.

00:41:03.660 I can't show the pictures because then they'll get me for copyright.

00:41:05.980 But it says,

00:41:06.440 The photographer who documents the former sites of Confederate monuments.

00:41:09.720 And you can go and look and it's just bases with nothing there.

00:41:13.340 And you just see the absence of it.

00:41:14.600 And it's really spooky.

00:41:16.020 Because even if you don't like Jefferson Davis, even if you don't like Robert Lee, you just see this absence, this void.

00:41:21.720 And you think, gosh, we're getting rid of our history.

00:41:24.580 And what's going to fill that void?

00:41:26.260 What ideology is going to fill that void?

00:41:28.240 And is it really going to make things better?

00:41:30.060 I also want to point out on this day in history, we're talking about Medicare for All,

00:41:33.660 how we're going to spend $75 zillion on new social programs.

00:41:37.540 And that'll be great.

00:41:38.380 Well, that'll fix everything, right?

00:41:39.680 Mankind is perfectible.

00:41:40.780 That usually works well.

00:41:41.840 Note wrong.

00:41:42.560 On this day in history, in 1965, LBJ signed Medicare into law.

00:41:47.400 So this created a major, major permanent entitlement.

00:41:52.400 It's given us a lot of trouble ever since.

00:41:54.320 It was signed at the Truman Library.

00:41:55.840 And this is because in 1945, President Truman became one of the first Americans to propose a national health insurance provision.

00:42:05.260 Truman actually became the first beneficiary of Medicare.

00:42:08.340 He signed up and he said, okay, I'm the first Medicare enrollee.

00:42:12.600 Originally, Medicare was for Americans 65 and older.

00:42:15.100 Just a few years later, seven years later, in 1972, that was expanded to include some Americans under the age of 65.

00:42:22.120 Then in 2003, under a Republican president, a nominally ostensible conservative president,

00:42:27.900 that was expanded even further to include certain prescription drugs, Medicare Part D.

00:42:32.360 This was the conservative running on expanding that entitlement.

00:42:34.760 This is funded entirely by the federal government.

00:42:38.120 It's paid for in part by payroll taxes, but just in part.

00:42:41.220 And it's been this very unwieldy thing.

00:42:43.720 It's been a huge strain on the federal budget ever since it was passed.

00:42:47.260 Just to put this in perspective, in 2010, the Office of Management and Budget said that out of the $528 billion that was allocated to Medicare,

00:42:58.700 huge amount of money, almost $50 billion of that was fraud.

00:43:03.980 That is a program that is so riven with fraud because Medicare, forget the Democrats complain about national defense.

00:43:10.900 The defense budget is so big.

00:43:12.300 Medicare is a lot bigger than that.

00:43:13.680 Medicare is a big driver of our debt and deficits.

00:43:17.040 But when you look at that program, almost 10% of that is fraud.

00:43:20.900 That is a huge waste.

00:43:22.040 When you're talking about this huge chunk of the federal budget,

00:43:24.500 then a huge chunk of that is waste, fraud, and abuse.

00:43:28.700 So, in 2017, Medicare accounted for 15% of the total budget.

00:43:32.660 That's expected to rise to 18% over the next 10 years.

00:43:35.180 So, it's not like it's shrinking.

00:43:36.220 It's getting even bigger.

00:43:37.640 It's running away.

00:43:38.560 And it's, to quote Mitch Daniels, the new red menace, this time consisting of ink.

00:43:42.760 Part of what that should show you, though, is that entitlement programs, once they're enacted, are virtually impossible to repeal.

00:43:49.360 Right now, the Republicans control the White House, the House of Representatives, the Senate.

00:43:54.480 The conservatives have the court, broadly speaking.

00:43:57.100 We have so many state houses, but they can't repeal Obamacare. 0.96

00:44:00.700 We can gut it.

00:44:01.840 We can get rid of the individual mandate.

00:44:03.760 We can work around the edges.

00:44:04.740 But they still haven't succeeded in repealing Obamacare.

00:44:07.400 Why?

00:44:07.840 Because even with all of that momentum, it is virtually impossible to repeal entitlements once they're passed.

00:44:13.720 And what an entitlement program is, is a diminution of your freedom.

00:44:18.940 It takes away your freedom.

00:44:21.460 The bigger the entitlement, the less freedom you have.

00:44:23.820 Because it means the more of your property the government gets to take, the more of your liberty it gets to demand.

00:44:29.180 And the bigger the government gets, the smaller the citizen gets.

00:44:32.180 And the government that can give you everything you want is able to take away everything that you have.

00:44:36.460 The government's going to give you all that health care.

00:44:38.400 You have to rely on the government for health care.

00:44:40.140 Well, guess what happens when your baby gets sick and you say, I want to take it elsewhere for treatment.

00:44:44.520 Either there's nowhere else to go or the government can say no.

00:44:47.000 As we saw in the United Kingdom happen twice in just the last year, last couple of years.

00:44:52.420 Once that entitlement program is enacted, that liberty is gone.

00:44:56.480 And so when you've got people like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and lefties and socialists, open socialists, saying,

00:45:02.480 we want to enact national health service, we want to, that freedom will be lost permanently.

00:45:09.160 There will not be repealing it.

00:45:10.920 It will not come back.

00:45:12.120 And those are the stakes in the election.

00:45:13.580 Because it's looking good for Republicans.

00:45:15.480 But right now, 42 candidates are running on the left with the official endorsement of the Democratic Socialists of America.

00:45:21.960 They want to do that.

00:45:23.020 They know how important it is.

00:45:24.460 They know that once they take away your freedom, you're not getting it back.

00:45:27.700 You've got to fight that tooth and nail. 0.97

00:45:29.360 And even wackos, even clowns like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who doesn't know anything, 0.98

00:45:35.000 who gesticulates like a crazy person on Trevor Noah's show, they are peddling a really pernicious ideology. 0.99

00:45:41.520 They're trying to take away your freedom.

00:45:42.820 You've got to rebut them every chance you get.

00:45:44.980 Okay, that's our show.

00:45:46.540 I will see you tomorrow.

00:45:48.020 And then I'm flying over to D.C.

00:45:49.260 So if you're in the D.C. area, maybe I'll see you around there.

00:45:51.540 You can catch me at, you know, any cigar bar or the Trump Hotel.

00:45:55.360 You'll probably see me there.

00:45:56.400 And because we'll be talking at YAF, at YAF, Young America's Foundation, and there's going to be a really good speech.

00:46:02.400 We're going to be talking about owning the libs.

00:46:05.160 And I can't wait to offer my robust defense of that.

00:46:09.640 In the meantime, I'm Michael Knowles.

00:46:10.940 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:46:12.200 I'll see you tomorrow.

00:46:12.660 The Michael Knowles Show is produced by Senia Villareal.

00:46:21.480 Executive producer, Jeremy Boring.

00:46:23.560 Senior producer, Jonathan Hay.

00:46:25.400 Our supervising producer, Mathis Glover.

00:46:27.980 And our technical producer is Austin Stevens.

00:46:30.620 Edited by Jim Nickel.

00:46:32.120 Audio is mixed by Mike Coromina.

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00:46:37.000 The Michael Knowles Show is a Daily Wire Forward Publishing production.

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The Michael Knowles Show - July 30, 2018

Ep. 192 - A Tale Told By An Idiot, Full Of Sound And Fury, Signifying Nothing

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