Ep. 1928 - GROSS： Scientist Teach Human Foreskin To Play A Video Game
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While our minds are focused on horrors almost beyond comprehension, Democratic Senate candidate James Tallarico wants you to know how much he loves trans children. Also, new details reveal that Jeffrey Epstein's prison guards lied about the night he died.
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Entrepreneurial scientists just taught human brain cells derived from newborn foreskin to play the video game Doom.
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Entrepreneurial scientists just taught human brain cells that were derived from newborn foreskin to play the video game Doom.
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And while our minds are focused on horrors almost beyond comprehension, Democrat Senate candidate James Tallarico wants you to know how much he loves trans children.
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Also, new details reveal that Jeffrey Epstein's prison guards lied about the night he died.
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You can just see how human neurons in a Petri dish plugged into a computer are now playing
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It's a tiny little water-filled Petri dish full of human brain cells.
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Now, the first question that most people would ask when they read a news story about how human
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brain cells have now been plugged into a computer to learn how to play Doom is, whose brain cells
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Hey, scientists, where'd you get the brain cells?
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And the answer is, they're no one's brain cells.
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They're neurons that came from stem cells, stem cells which can develop into other kinds of cells,
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stem cells that were taken from the foreskin of newborn babies.
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I know it sounds pretty gross, but it could be much, much worse if, for instance, the stem cells
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had been taken from aborted babies, as a lot of our pharmaceuticals come from.
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In this case, it was just the discarded foreskin of circumcised babies from which we got the stem
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The brain cells, which are no one's brain cells, to learn how to play a beloved video game.
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I don't know if you've ever read Mary Shelley's Frankenstein.
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The plot is that a scientist who wants to transgress the limits of morality, transgress the limits
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placed on us by our nature, by God, goes out, digs up a bunch of dead bodies, goes to morgues
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and takes body parts, and then cobbles together a monster from rotting human flesh, and through
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a scientific form of wizardry, animates this thing and creates a being that is not human
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This is actually somehow more grotesque than that, because Mary Shelley's Frankenstein,
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while it describes all sorts of putrid, rotting flesh dug up from cemeteries, doesn't go quite
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so far as the discarded foreskin of circumcised babies to create brain cells for this ridiculous
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Here, they just say, wouldn't it be funny if they think it played Doom?
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This is something I really like about this story.
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I mean, you can make jokes about it all day, and you can also be horrified by it and think
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that this is evidence of the approach of the apocalypse, but the thing that I really like
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about this story, I'm a glass half full kind of guy, is it forces us to reflect on our human
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We have a lot of errors these days about what a human being is.
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We don't even know what men and women are now, famously, infamously.
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We think a man can be a woman because we don't really know how human nature works.
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And so, something I like about this story is that the reasonable fear that people have,
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And the answer is that these cells, even brain cells, they're not a person.
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Much like Dr. Frankenstein didn't really create a human being.
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They don't have a soul because the soul is not just some magical word to fill in what we
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The soul is an objective fact that we can all know, which is that the soul is the substantial
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My body is made up of all sorts of molecules and atoms and elements.
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But the thing that makes me, me, and that differentiates my carbon from, say, the carbon
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The thing that pertains to me is an integral whole.
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The reason that the leftist tears tumbler is different from other pieces of steel and who
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knows, gold and platinum and whatever is in this tumbler.
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The thing that differentiates that from every other thing that includes those elements is
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You could say its soul, the thing that pertains to it, that gives it its form, that makes it
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So I'm not really concerned that we've created some poor, wretched human person in the form of
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developed neonatal foreskin to play this video game that hasn't even been cooled in like 30 years.
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But it does seem like we should learn a lesson from Frankenstein here.
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The reason that this company, Cortical Labs, creates this thing called DishBrain is to just
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The argument is that when you plug in human cells and you create these neurons, it'll compute
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faster and it will learn things faster than a computer chip.
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So in that way, it's very much like Frankenstein.
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In many ways, it's very much like Frankenstein.
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But in this way, we are transgressing human limits.
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We are now treating human flesh as if it is nothing but a commodity.
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We pick the mother or the father out of a catalog.
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And then the ones we don't want, we return or we discard.
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We then hire other unethical scientists, much like these people, to go and create the babies
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in a Petri dish and then to implant them in different mothers that we pay.
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This is reminding us, just as the question about human nature reminds us that we once knew
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We think, because of this weirdo technological progress, we think that we are advancing in
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all areas of life because we're advancing in technology.
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But we're not, weirdly, we're advancing in technology and we're actually regressing when
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We're regressing when it comes to anthropology.
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We're regressing when it comes to philosophy and theology.
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We're taking one step forward, but 150 steps back at the same time.
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And so we have to, the glass half full version of this is, it forces us to contemplate our human
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nature, if baby foreskin in a Petri dish can learn how to play Doom, that is a shocking
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And it forces me to think about what is a human being.
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And by thinking about what is a human being, I reconsider all these other aspects of politics.
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Things like IVF or abortion, things like gender, things like the ethical limits of science.
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If you don't want to live in a future where baby foreskin is playing Doom, then we need
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Okay, speaking of human experimentation, our favorite Democrat Senate candidate in Texas,
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James Tallarico, wants you to know that he really, really, really loves trans kids.
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If you're a man watching this episode, there's a good chance you've encountered pornography.
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And not just because of my intro dance on the desk.
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I'm talking about like the real hardcore stuff on the internet, probably more than once.
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Data show that around 70 to 75% of American men view pornography regularly.
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It's 90% plus, I think maybe even mid to high 90s, have seen porn at some point on the internet.
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This is not a fringe issue, something most men in our culture are dealing with one way
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If you're one of those men, before you dismiss the numbers, just do something.
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Think about all the reasons that you've told yourself not to deal with that addiction.
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And then think about how terrible you feel when you do look at pornography because it's
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And then remember why you want to stop doing it.
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Because you want to be a good guy and an admirable guy and not like a creep and you don't want
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So anyway, I could go on for a while, but you get the point.
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I said, save some clips of this guy until closer to the election.
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Here's a clip that's just come back around from a Super Bloom podcast on YouTube.
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in which James Tallarico is asked what he most loves.
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Something that you love that's not family or friends.
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I love, I'm just saying this because it's on my mind, the trans children who showed up
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yesterday at the state capitol to advocate for their humanity.
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They shouldn't have to, but it was an inspiration to watch.
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Ladies and gentlemen, your normal, moderate, polished Democrat Senate candidate.
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We've had enough all this wokeness, you know, that's what we're being told.
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Enough of this wokeness, enough of these sideshows.
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Here, finally, we have the normal, moderate James Tallarico,
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who's going to bring Democrats back to sanity and moderation, help them reconnect with the average
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Hey, James, other than your family, other than those people most close to, what do you love?
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So he tries to explain it and he makes it worse.
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He says, I love trans kids, but I'm only saying that because they're on my mind.
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Yeah, they're, they're just, they're on my mind.
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Other than, I don't know, my mom and my dad, the thing I love most in this world is children
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Gavin Newsom just got in trouble for this quote.
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Not the kind of quote you want if you want to connect with the voters in Peoria.
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Not the kind of normal stuff you, I want to see more trans kids.
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Because even if you, even if you advocate for promoting the transgender ideology, even
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if you advocate for affirming people's delusions, if they have this kind of sexual hangup, even
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if you think that we should do that when it comes to children, which is sick and perverted
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But even if you think all of that, how could you possibly say, I want to see more of this
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Transgender identity is a psychological ailment that corresponds with a 41% suicide rate.
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41% of people who have this condition will try to kill themselves.
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And massively increased rates of depression and anxiety.
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To say nothing of the sterility and the bone problems and the early death that go along
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And you come out and you say, I want to see more of this.
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Even if you think we should encourage this or tolerate this, or we should affirm these,
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But even if you think that, to go out and say, I want to see more of it is so sick and
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revolting that it takes you off the table as the moderate, as the Democrat reset.
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If you want to encourage sexual confusion among kids, if that's on your mind a lot, something's
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So, before I move on from Tallarico, I know we could just do, from now until November,
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It's James Tallarico sitting with James Carville, Ragin' Cajun, describing how non-Christians
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I have met so many Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Jews, Muslims, atheists, agnostics, who are more
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Christ-like than some of the Christians I serve with in the Texas legislature.
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Matthew 25, people who haven't read their Bible on a Bible.
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Yeah, well, you know, he follows the 10 commandments rather than the 10 commandments.
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But, you know, Matthew 25 tells us exactly how we're going to be judged and how we're going
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to be saved by feeding the hungry, by healing the sick, by welcoming the stranger, which
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There's nothing in Matthew 25 about reading your Bible.
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And so, I've met a lot of people from different faith traditions, people who aren't religious
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at all, who embody that teaching better than some of the really loud Christians that we
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Okay, I don't even really want to get into all of the many errors that this guy is making.
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The one right off the top that comes to my system, there's nothing in the Gospel of Matthew
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Of course, the events that are chronicled in the Gospel according to St. Matthew necessarily
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occur before the Gospel is written down and therefore necessarily occur before the Bible
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This guy's job is to make non-Christians feel good about disparaging Christians.
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This is why David French endorsed him in the New York Times.
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David French, who is the pretend conservative, who used to at least hold some conservatives,
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views, and then came down with a terminal case of Trump derangement syndrome, and then
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moved over to the left, and now he's a New York Times liberal.
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The job that they share is to make non-Christians feel good about disparaging Christians.
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Now, plenty of non-Christians, just liberal, secular, atheist types, they disparage Christians
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They don't really need encouragement in that endeavor.
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However, for some of them, the ones who have a pang of a conscience, it helps them to feel
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And so, the way they attack Christians is they attack Christians as hypocrites.
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Because the liberals do not have a serious moral standard that they hold themselves to,
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they do all sorts of vicious stuff, sexual stuff, money stuff, violent stuff.
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They do all this vicious stuff, and they transgress everything that has ever even been
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They feel a resentment toward Christians who attempt to hold themselves to the moral order.
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And the way that they can attack Christians and thereby make themselves feel better is by
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So, they say, well, look, I might do all this bad stuff.
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I might do lots of terrible sex stuff, and I might be greedy, and I might not give to charity,
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I might be terrible, but at least I don't pretend otherwise.
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But you Christians, you have a moral standard, and sometimes you fall short of that, which
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is, of course, an integral part of Christianity is the recognition that this is a fallen world,
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and no man saves himself, and we're in need of a Savior, and we're in need of God's grace.
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The libs either don't know that or don't care to admit that.
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And so, the fulfillment of that attack is, you know, the non-Christians are more Christian
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And it's an incoherent attack, because on the one hand, these people will argue that
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Christianity, as we have always understood it, is bad.
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James Tallarico is an antichrist figure who insists that Christianity is totally contrary
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to everything that everyone has believed Christianity to be for 2,000 years.
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But the left, broadly, says Christianity is bad, and also, all these non-Christians are
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Now, you have to pick one of those things, unless you're saying your own side is bad.
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But they'll make those contradictory arguments constantly.
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This is the Tallarico moment, as David French is calling it.
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The Tallarico moment is this indulgent gift, this indulgent exercise of encouraging non-Christians
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Everything we're seeing from Tallarico right now tells us he is Beto O'Rourke 2.0.
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He's Beto, he's Buttigieg, he's probably not going to the U.S. Senate.
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I told you yesterday about how there was a conservative protest in New York protesting
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Then a bunch of libs showed up and made a big to-do about it and started screeching at
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And as the libs were yelling that everyone belongs in New York and we need mass migration
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and more Muslims, as one lib in particular is screeching about this into a bullhorn,
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a Muslim comes up, screams Allahu Akbar, and throws a bomb, an IED, an improvised explosive
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Turns out, turns out the ringleader of the libs who was speaking while the Muslim came up,
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Here is Walter Masterson, lib extraordinaire, screaming at conservative protesters, saying that we need to take all the migrants into New York, and especially the Muslim migrants.
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We were pulling in ways in New York, and we want everyone here to stay in New York.
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You don't get to come from outside and then tell everyone else.
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So some people are pointing out, this is a strange video, because you have this guy, Walter Masterson, who's yelling, who's screaming.
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And then as he's saying, everyone's welcome here in New York.
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And then as he's running away, he starts yelling Muslim things.
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He actually yells, not just Allahu Akbar, he yells, all praises due to Allah, Lord of all worlds.
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This isn't a religion that just stands when people talk about the blessed name of the prophet.
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This is reportedly what he says as he's running away.
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But what's weird is when he gets up there, he jumps on the guy and throws the explosive.
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And some people are suggesting that Masterson's not reacting means that he was in on it, or this was a big prank or something.
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And I can say that only because I was on stage with Walter, and he's just kind of that guy.
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He doesn't really react so much when you speak to him.
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He does kind of – I want to be cordial about this.
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He kind of seems like he's on another planet when you're talking to him.
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This is one of the clips from Bar Fight, just to give you a little sense of what I'm talking about.
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Your claim is that Trump sexually assaulted children.
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Do you have any evidence for the claim you're making, or no?
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You know, besides the Epstein files, I mean, you know, God, there's only like 50,000 pages in it.
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But is there anything in particular you would cite from the Epstein files?
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Yeah, we're just – yeah, they're bringing in the Epstein files right now, unredacted.
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Is there – do you really – you don't have a single piece of – I thought you might have like a piece of –
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I prepared defenses against the evidence that I thought you might bring in.
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So Walter had come into Bar Fight, and his claim that he was going to defend, that we were going to debate,
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was he said preposterously that Trump sexually assaulted children.
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Okay, let me come up with all of the counterarguments to any way you could even possibly make that.
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Okay, how – and we get there, and he makes the claim, and he didn't even have a false argument to make to defend the claim.
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He didn't have – certainly didn't have a true argument, but he didn't even have a false argument.
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He didn't – he just said it and then kind of stared vacantly into outer space.
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So anyway, that's why I think that that clip is legit.
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And the craziest part is neither Walter nor any of those other libs will change their mind.
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Even if they say, we love Islam, open our borders, and a Muslim throws a bomb in their faces,
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Because one of the hallmarks of all ideology, but especially the left-wing ideologies,
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is that when forced to choose between the theory and the reality,
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if theory and reality contradict each other, you have to pick one of them.
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Now, speaking of Muslim lands, panicans destroyed again.
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As I've said from the beginning of the Iran war, very, very high stakes for President Trump.
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But as of now, all the panicans' predictions have been wrong.
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The most recent prediction, based on oil prices spiking a couple days ago,
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was that the Strait of Hormuz was going to be closed.
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Oil was going to go up, not just to $115 a barrel, but to $150 a barrel, maybe.
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And this was going to plunge the world into a global recession.
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We now find out that the ships are moving through the Strait of Hormuz.
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Trump called in to Brian Kilmeade yesterday, or two days ago, said,
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no, I guess it was yesterday, said these ships should go through the Strait of Hormuz,
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Now, listening to Trump, I guess, the ships are moving through.
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Oil is down again, not only below $100 a barrel.
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But nevertheless, it's way down from where it was.
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And then on top of that, President Trump called CBS and said the war is going to be over soon.
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He said, quote, I think the war is very complete, pretty much.
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What's weird about this is this contradicts what Pete Hegseth and the Department of War rapid response put out,
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which is this image, it says, no mercy, missile going up in the air.
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And it says in capital letters at the top, we have only just begun to fight.
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You got the president saying the war's almost over.
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You got the Department of War saying we've only just begun to fight.
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Are they not on a text thread together or they're not coordinating their messaging?
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I actually don't think there's a ton of contradiction here.
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Or rather, there is a contradiction, but I don't think that this is anomalous.
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I don't think that this is evidence that the strategy is incoherent.
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Obviously, they're speaking to two different audiences and they're trying to convey different messages.
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They're trying to tell the world and the markets and other countries that the war is going to wrap up quickly.
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You know, the people who are deep skeptics of this are saying we're about to enter World War III.
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This is going to be at the very least another Iraq and Afghanistan.
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We're going to be in this country for 10 or 20 years.
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And Trump said from the beginning, the war is going to last about five weeks.
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Now he's saying, I think it's actually going to be shorter even than that.
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Trump may be managing expectations from the beginning, giving a larger timeline so that when he comes in below the timeline, it's impressive.
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That's what he's telling the markets and the rest of the world.
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And then the Department of War is saying we've only just begun.
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Now, that doesn't necessarily mean that the war is going to go on for two more months or six more months or another year or two.
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What that's saying is we've only begun to fight.
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Maybe we will, you know, do a few weeks and then we're out.
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But we have the capacity to keep fighting much more.
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You have not seen the fullness of our strength.
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These are not contradictory statements, or they at least don't have to be.
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You've got to assure the markets that this is not going to go on forever.
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And you need to warn the Iranians that this could go on forever.
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In any case, in any case, this is why I'm not getting too riled up about the war.
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I'm not the one who was, you know, beating the drums for war.
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I said from the beginning, had I been on the National Security Council, I would have made arguments against the strike on Iran.
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I have discouraged attacking Iran for a long time.
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However, some of that is just based on the information that was public.
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The government obviously has a little more information on the particular threats and the effectiveness and efficiency with which the war can be fought.
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So, when the war kicked off, a war that I would have argued against, and have argued against actually.
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When the war kicked off, all the people who were warning against war with Iran lost their freaking minds.
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And they started shrieking like chickens with their heads cut off.
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Not just because, you know, I'm a partisan for the administration or the GOP.
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The reason I didn't get too riled up, and I'm not getting too riled up, is I have learned from experience.
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The media, and even some voters, they do this with Trump all the time.
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Oh, no, we're going to go to war in Afghanistan.
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Oh, no, Venezuela is going to descend into civil war.
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Oh, no, Kim Jong-un is going to shoot a missile at us.
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And so, being at least a semi-rational person, looking at what has happened,
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every single time someone freaks out about President Trump's policies,
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specifically policies overseas, every single time, people lose their minds, and then it works out.
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And so, I think this is maybe not going to work out.
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But just learning from experience, I'm not going to get my blood pressure.
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I'm not going to spike my cortisol because of all these people screeching and losing their minds.
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Whether we're talking about the warmongering types who are making pretty specious arguments,
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I think, for the war in Iran, the ones who are trying to pretend that this is a clear moral crusade
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about which reasonable minds cannot disagree, or the people who are saying this is the end of the world
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and America's over and they're all going to turn on Trump.
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You know, I mean, they're not going to be frame-mogging anybody if they keep their cortisol this high.
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It's going to be very, they're gesture-maxing is what they're doing.
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I'm using the language of another guy that we made go viral.
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There's something about, we make these kind of odd cultural figures go very, very viral.
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Slightly elevated prices, but not that bad, all things considering.
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A day and a half later, the Strait of Hormuz has ships moving through it again.
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At a certain point, guys, you have to say, the rational thing to do is give Trump a little wiggle room.
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At least within the time frame that he is talking about.
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And on day three, these anxious, I'm trying to be charitable in how I describe them.
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They're just, they're like teenage girls or something.
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Even when they talk about the war, they're speaking in this very abstract, hysterical ideology.
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On the pro-war side, they're speaking as though this is the great moral crusade.
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And we just, you know, Iran is the greatest, most imminent threat to the United States.
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But likewise, the idea that America is not involved overseas with a global empire.
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We've been involved internationally since the first Barbary War.
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We've been involved in the Middle East since the first Barbary War, okay?
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It's not a betrayal of America to go into the Middle East.
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Am I the only one with normal cortisol levels left on the American right?
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Speaking of President Trump, a story that I've wanted to get to,
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But a story I've wanted to get to now for a few days at least.
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President Trump floated putting Ted Cruz on the Supreme Court.
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My favorite comment yesterday is from Kuchufu Empire 4029, who says,
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David French's next article, the principled argument for seizing the means of production.
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He wrote ceasing, but I think he means seizing the means of production.
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You go to church with Pastor Tallarico telling you to read the Gnostic heretical Gospel of Thomas
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And you make sure you vote straight Democrat all the time.
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That's the way to be a true conservative Christian.
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Speaking of conservative Christians, Senator Ted Cruz just got a very interesting presidential endorsement,
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specifically from the president, floating Senator Cruz for the Supreme Court.
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I'm thinking about putting him in the Supreme Court.
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Now, now, I'm thinking, because it's very hard, you know, getting these nominations through is very tough.
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But he's the only guy I know he'll get 100 percent of the Democrat vote, 100 percent of the Republican vote.
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He is such a pain in the ass, but he's so good and so talented.
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And so far, I'm really only seeing people read it two ways.
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President Trump already floated Senator Cruz for the Supreme Court in the first term.
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It's a little unclear exactly, but that's the story.
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Now, he brings it back and he says, look, I'm thinking about putting him on the court.
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Not I'm thinking about asking him to be on the court.
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That not only do the Democrats want him out, the Republicans want him out.
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So the first level is, he's just telling a joke.
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He just wanted to get a laugh out of the crowd in Texas.
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And I know, look, I know that the Supreme Court is supposed to be run by Catholics and Jews.
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But I know, I know the court is owned by the Catholics and the Jews.
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He knows the Constitution and the case law backwards and forwards.
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He's already successfully won a case at the Supreme Court, actually.
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And what I think a lot of this is about is what no one's talking about.
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Because, do you remember, we talked about it on the show when it came out.
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There was that leak from Axios, or to Axios, that said that Senator Cruz is considering running for president in 2028.
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Now, I think there are a lot of people who are considering running for president in 2028.
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I think all those guys that were on stage in 2016 at the beginning of the Trump era, I think every single one of those guys still wants to be president.
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Some of them don't really have a chance anymore.
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And so, we're all thinking, because the Trump era is very unified, we're all thinking, look, J.D. Vance is obviously the heir apparent.
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Marco Rubio has effectively already endorsed him for president.
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And President Trump has endorsed Vance and Rubio as a ticket.
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So, come on, there's not going to be a primary.
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There's all, it's not like all the people who ran in 2016 just stopped wanting to be president.
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So, there is still the possibility that you could get a pretty serious primary.
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The way I see that playing out is if Rubio flip-flops on the endorsement of Vance, if Rubio were to withdraw his endorsement of Vance, which would look very bad for him, I don't think it would be a good idea.
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But if he did it, and you actually had a two-person race from within the Trump administration, then blows the primary wide open.
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And I wonder if this little joke, there's always an element of truth in these jokes, if this joke from President Trump was to signal that Senator Cruz could be a real presidential candidate.
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He was a pretty tough presidential candidate the first time.
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He came in second to Trump, practically speaking.
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So, I wonder if it's a signal to say, I'm still behind a unified Trump administration ticket.
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I recognize that Senator Cruz is a threat in a presidential primary.
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I want to move him to the Supreme Court, which is a pretty good job.
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And therefore, I want the party to be unified around the ticket that I've already endorsed, which is Vance Rubio.
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It's not quite an explicit endorsement, but it's pretty close.
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And you see this broader trend within the GOP and the conservative movement.
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It's very odd, which is that among the babbling class, among the podcaster class, and the live streamer class, and the commentators,
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the conservative movement is as divided now as it ever has been, certainly within the last 50, 60 years.
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And it's all these people, this podcaster fighting with this podcaster because of the thing that this other podcaster said about the fifth podcaster.
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And it's all this bickering and all this fighting.
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And some of it is substantive and a lot of it's petty.
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Not the kind of meta-political order, the politics of politics, the podcaster class.
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Look at the actual elected officials with the policies, waging the wars, implementing the regulations.
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And those guys, while the podcasters are as divided as ever, those guys are as unified as ever, such that they're even looking ahead to 2028.
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And there seems to be unity within the Trump administration, within the elected class, even on who the next presidential nominee will be.
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In fact, I think I'm going to be giving a speech on that down in Florida later on.
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