The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 193 - Save The Planet： Use Plastic Straws

00:00:00.000 As the only authorized manufacturers of leftist tears tumblers in the world,

00:00:04.100 I think it is important that we finally stand up here at The Daily Wire

00:00:07.820 and do our environmental duty to help save the planet

00:00:11.120 with an important public service announcement.

00:00:13.640 When you're drinking salty and delicious leftist tears from our tumbler,

00:00:17.220 please be sure always to use a plastic straw.

00:00:20.220 Maybe use two of them.

00:00:21.280 For one, it will prevent the salty tears from staining your teeth,

00:00:25.060 and that's very important.

00:00:25.960 But two, it will help to save the planet and shrink the non-existent garbage island

00:00:31.060 in the Pacific Ocean while polar bears don't starve in the Arctic,

00:00:34.760 fracking doesn't poison water wells, and electric cars kill people.

00:00:38.260 We will analyze everything you know that just ain't so

00:00:41.060 about mankind's impact on our natural environment.

00:00:43.960 Then the Griffin family stops by to discuss giving birth to a baby

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00:00:54.080 Finally, the celebrities gunning to take down President Trump in 2018 and beyond.

00:00:59.100 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:08.180 You know, when I was doing that setup, I probably should have had a straw

00:01:10.700 in the leftist tears tumbler.

00:01:12.660 Now my teeth are going to be all stained, and I won't be saving the environment.

00:01:16.320 We have a lot to get to today.

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00:02:52.700 Okay, so this is terrific.

00:02:55.680 You know that for the last two weeks now, the straws have dominated the headlines.

00:03:01.980 Starbucks is getting rid of its plastic straws.

00:03:04.780 Now they're going to infantilize us and use those little sippy cup things. 1.00

00:03:08.000 Nobody can use straws.

00:03:09.060 I think the latest statistic from the seven-year-old who did a survey is that seven zillion straws

00:03:14.900 are used every day, killing the environment, killing the polar bears, all this stuff, right?

00:03:19.920 You know all that?

00:03:21.080 Not true.

00:03:21.720 It turns out that banning plastic straws is bad for the environment.

00:03:24.760 Right now, Starbucks is still going to be instituting this.

00:03:29.840 I love these kinds of stories.

00:03:31.480 I love the stories where the really earnest environmentalist, the preening types, get proven totally wrong.

00:03:37.680 Because they might have good intentions, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

00:03:41.540 Why is this?

00:03:42.320 Why is banning plastic straws bad for the environment?

00:03:46.420 Well, there are different types of plastic.

00:03:48.660 Number one, number two, number three.

00:03:50.740 And in particular, we should focus on number two and number five.

00:03:53.240 Number five is polypropylene, and number two is high-density polyethylene.

00:03:59.020 Straws are made, plastic straws, the kind you get at the coffee shop, are made from number two and number five plastic.

00:04:05.140 Number two is pretty easy to recycle.

00:04:07.260 Number five is very hard to recycle.

00:04:08.620 Only three percent of number five plastic is recycled.

00:04:12.140 So 97% of number five plastic, we send it to China to recycle it.

00:04:16.840 China doesn't recycle it.

00:04:17.980 It ends up in the ocean somewhere.

00:04:20.100 So the straws that they're using could be number two, could be number five.

00:04:23.660 Those lids, those sippy cup lids are much thicker, and they're number five.

00:04:27.720 So they're replacing the straws with these thicker lids, and the thicker lids are virtually impossible to recycle.

00:04:34.920 So it actually will create a greater negative environmental impact.

00:04:39.660 This whole straw thing, I don't think we've covered this enough,

00:04:41.880 and it's not totally common knowledge.

00:04:43.820 You might be wondering why you woke up one day and all of a sudden plastic straws were public enemy number one.

00:04:50.100 You might say it's because we live in an utterly decadent culture with no actual problems,

00:04:54.260 so we just have to invent them for ourselves.

00:04:56.120 That's also true.

00:04:56.760 The other reason is that there's this nine-year-old boy named Milo Kress, nine years old in 2011, seven years ago.

00:05:05.140 And he decided that there were too many straws like a nine-year-old does. 0.97

00:05:09.760 Nine-year-olds make these kind of stupid observations and extrapolate from there. 0.99

00:05:14.100 So this number, 500 million straws consumed daily. 1.00

00:05:18.260 America uses 500 million straws daily.

00:05:20.240 This has been reported in the New York Times.

00:05:22.240 It's been reported in USA Today.

00:05:23.960 It's been reported in National Geographic.

00:05:26.480 It's been reported by the National Park Service.

00:05:29.740 The trouble with it is it's plucked out of thin air.

00:05:33.280 There was a nine-year-old who thought there were too many straws, Milo Kress,

00:05:36.840 and so he called up a couple companies, he called up a few restaurants,

00:05:40.280 and just decided that the number was 500 million.

00:05:43.640 People gave him totally different numbers for daily use or for yearly use or whatever,

00:05:50.300 and he just kind of guessed.

00:05:52.640 And he actually admits this too, by the way.

00:05:54.260 He says, quote,

00:05:55.100 Why I use this statistic is because it illustrates that we use too many straws.

00:05:59.740 I think if it were another number, it still illustrates the fact that there is room for reduction.

00:06:04.780 That's really my message.

00:06:05.860 This is Milo Kress as a 16-year-old.

00:06:08.560 And this gives away the whole story.

00:06:10.500 You know, the left does this all the time.

00:06:11.820 They make up some nonsense,

00:06:13.400 and then we conservatives find out that what they've just said is nonsense,

00:06:16.940 and they say, well, it's not true, but it gets to a greater truth. 0.90

00:06:21.160 No, it's a lie, and it's a lie.

00:06:22.820 It's not that it's not true, but it's a greater truth.

00:06:26.440 It's a lie, and then it's a lie.

00:06:28.500 And Milo Kress, this kid says,

00:06:31.260 I don't care if it's true.

00:06:32.280 It doesn't matter if it's true.

00:06:33.100 The point is, do what I say.

00:06:35.340 The point is, do what we environmentalists say and stop using the straws.

00:06:39.440 Say, well, you need to present to me some kind of,

00:06:41.000 no, I don't need to do anything.

00:06:42.060 Do what I say.

00:06:42.640 We have too many.

00:06:43.220 We're going to get rid of them.

00:06:45.500 So a part of this, the plastic straw thing,

00:06:49.000 is that, you know, there's this garbage patch in the Pacific Ocean.

00:06:53.980 You might have read these headlines.

00:06:55.260 They're on a lot of click-baity sites.

00:06:56.480 There's a huge floating island of plastic bottles and, you know, refuse that we don't recycle,

00:07:03.620 and it's floating, and it's taking over the whole ocean.

00:07:05.960 If you looked at these pictures, you would believe that, like, half of the ocean of the earth

00:07:11.740 is just covered in plastic bottles, right?

00:07:14.060 It turns out that's just completely not true.

00:07:18.020 So the island does not exist.

00:07:20.320 It's nowhere.

00:07:21.620 We know this because they went to the heart of it,

00:07:23.220 where the highest concentration of these plastics are in the ocean.

00:07:25.980 They found 1,000 significant objects.

00:07:29.300 Objects, you know, like the size of this tumbler or something.

00:07:31.620 Objects you can actually see with your eyes.

00:07:33.320 They found 1,000 of those over thousands of square miles.

00:07:37.200 So you could have one of these for, you know, 10 square miles, something like that,

00:07:44.060 8 square miles. 0.89

00:07:45.160 Totally ridiculous. 0.93

00:07:46.360 Now, you might be saying, well, Michael, you can be saying that. 0.98

00:07:49.320 I believe you.

00:07:50.220 It's not that I don't believe you, but I've seen the pictures with my own eyes.

00:07:52.800 Those pictures are just fake.

00:07:54.180 Those pictures are taken off the coast of Manila in the Philippines.

00:07:57.960 It's taken off the coast of other South Asian and East Asian cities that are just dirty, 1.00

00:08:04.560 that are just filled with trash. 0.98

00:08:06.020 So it's true.

00:08:06.980 I could take a picture from the dumpster downstairs.

00:08:08.920 I believe by my 200th episode, that's where I'm going to be living.

00:08:11.260 I could go take a picture of that and say, you know, isn't this dirty?

00:08:14.100 And then try to pretend like it's the Pacific Ocean.

00:08:16.120 But it's not.

00:08:16.900 It's just totally made up.

00:08:18.880 It does get to a really important point with the left, though,

00:08:21.160 which is that because they control the narrative, because they control the culture,

00:08:25.640 they put the image in your head.

00:08:28.020 The image doesn't have to be true.

00:08:29.920 The statistic doesn't have to be true.

00:08:31.420 Another example of this is they say, before Roe v. Wade,

00:08:34.140 5,000 women a year died from back alley abortions. 1.00

00:08:37.800 Now, the guy who started saying that, he admitted he just made it up.

00:08:40.900 He just plucked it out of thin air.

00:08:42.360 The actual number was like 20 or 30 or something the year before Roe v. Wade.

00:08:46.180 20 or 30, period.

00:08:47.180 Not 20 or 30,000.

00:08:48.240 20 or 30 people.

00:08:49.200 But you get these images in your head, these numbers, these pictures.

00:08:52.680 A really great example of this, this one spread like wildfire last year,

00:08:57.540 is that climate change is killing that polar bear.

00:09:01.500 Do you remember that polar bear?

00:09:02.920 I'll show you the clip.

00:09:04.000 This aired on National Geographic.

00:09:05.560 It's been seen all over the world.

00:09:06.900 I'll narrate it for those of you who aren't watching.

00:09:09.040 Here is that poor polar bear starving because of climate change.

00:09:12.320 He looks so sad.

00:09:17.360 He can barely walk.

00:09:18.520 He says, this is what a starving polar bear looks like.

00:09:22.220 He's on his knees now.

00:09:23.900 He can't find food.

00:09:26.120 Where's the...

00:09:27.520 It's all because of you.

00:09:28.960 It's because you didn't recycle your plastic straws.

00:09:30.880 This bear was spotted by National Geographic photographer Paul Nicklin on Somerset Island

00:09:36.260 in the Canadian Arctic.

00:09:38.640 I'm waiting for the Sarah McLachlan music to start playing.

00:09:40.720 In the arms of the angel.

00:09:44.680 He's now rummaging through a trash can.

00:09:47.400 Because of you.

00:09:48.040 Because you had to drive your Hummer.

00:09:49.620 Because you needed that SUV.

00:09:50.720 The bear went missing after this footage was shot,

00:09:53.440 making it impossible to know specifically what ailed it.

00:09:56.660 Oh, that's nice to sneak that in now.

00:09:59.060 However, scientists warn that as temperatures rise and sea ice melts,

00:10:02.320 polar bears lose access to the main staple of their diet, seals.

00:10:06.980 What about those poor seals?

00:10:07.960 At least the seals get to live.

00:10:09.360 Starving, running out of energy.

00:10:10.420 They're forced to wander into human settlements looking for food.

00:10:14.220 Feeding polar bears is illegal.

00:10:15.560 Without finding another source of food, this bear likely only had a few hours to live.

00:10:19.540 This was this video.

00:10:20.560 It's over a minute long.

00:10:22.020 It spread like wildfire.

00:10:25.400 The title of it is,

00:10:26.680 This is What Starvation Looks Like.

00:10:28.120 It is estimated by the photographers and National Geographic that two and a half billion people saw this video and the images in this video.

00:10:37.920 Two and a half billion with a B.

00:10:40.820 Now, this was blasted out.

00:10:43.060 Headlines, National Geographic.

00:10:44.800 This is what climate change looks like.

00:10:46.680 They're saying climate change is starving this polar bear, right?

00:10:49.280 Finally, these photographers and National Geographic itself, by the way, are admitting that this was a lie.

00:10:56.300 Mittermeier, one of the photographers, says,

00:10:57.740 But there was a problem.

00:10:59.840 We had lost control of the narrative.

00:11:01.640 The first line of the National Geographic video said,

00:11:04.740 This is what climate change looks like, with climate change highlighted in the brand's distinctive yellow.

00:11:09.320 In retrospect, National Geographic went too far.

00:11:12.900 And what did Nat Geo say?

00:11:13.860 They said, National Geographic went too far in drawing a definitive connection between climate change and a particular starving polar bear in the opening caption of our video about the animal.

00:11:23.580 Yeah, duh, animals can starve in the wild.

00:11:26.220 That does happen.

00:11:27.180 The plural of anecdote is not data.

00:11:30.280 And by the way, if this were caused by climate change, if we could say definitively, this is what climate change looks like,

00:11:35.800 we would expect the polar bear population to be plummeting.

00:11:39.700 Isn't that right?

00:11:40.240 But according to the 2016 Scientific Working Group, right now on Earth, there are between 22,600 and 32,200 polar bears.

00:11:50.240 That's up from 22,000 to 31,000 in 2015, a year before that number was taken.

00:11:57.020 And that's way up from an estimated 20,000 to 25,000 in 2005.

00:12:01.540 Way up.

00:12:02.380 Despite what the climate hysteria websites might tell you,

00:12:06.640 all of the evidence points in the direction of the polar bear population being way, way up.

00:12:10.880 And in fact, estimates from the 1960s said that at that time there were between 8,000 and 10,000 polar bears.

00:12:16.980 So obviously that population has doubled, if not tripled, in the intervening 50, 60 years.

00:12:23.160 Now, what the climate change people will tell you is, well, we don't know.

00:12:26.560 We just don't know.

00:12:27.260 We don't know how many polar bears there are.

00:12:28.840 Stop saying the polar bears are increasing.

00:12:30.400 And you say, well, you've just given away the whole story because you don't know, right?

00:12:34.580 We can say at most that we don't know how many polar bears there are.

00:12:38.480 But the climate change people, the environmentalists, the environmental hysterics,

00:12:44.060 they always act as though they have such certainty, right?

00:12:47.420 They say, this is what climate change looks like.

00:12:50.180 This straw will destroy the planet.

00:12:52.340 This will do, if you do this, it's going to lead to, but so frequently it doesn't.

00:12:57.040 It doesn't mean anything.

00:12:58.260 It's just images designed to pull on your heartstrings, to manipulate you,

00:13:02.420 to stop using your reason, to start supporting left-wing policies

00:13:06.180 that either will have no impact on the environment or will hurt the environment.

00:13:10.300 The great example of this, I love this one.

00:13:13.140 It's almost enough to make me get a Tesla, and that's the electric car.

00:13:17.680 The electric car, that's good for the environment, right?

00:13:19.780 We can at least agree the electric car is good for the environment, right?

00:13:22.060 No, it's terrible for the environment.

00:13:24.300 Keep driving your Hummer, baby.

00:13:25.740 My car, I drive a V6 sedan.

00:13:28.880 It gets like 18 miles to the gallon at best.

00:13:31.520 It usually gets like 15, even better.

00:13:33.480 I'll try to rev it more so it only gets like 13 or 14.

00:13:36.620 According to a study from the University of Minnesota, electric cars are terrible for the environment.

00:13:41.400 This was published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Science.

00:13:43.940 It produces more carbon emissions than conventional cars, and that's because of the batteries.

00:13:50.060 The batteries are really awful for the environment.

00:13:52.220 The co-author of that study, Julian Marshall, who's an engineering professor, says,

00:13:56.220 it's kind of hard to beat gasoline if you want to protect the environment and people.

00:14:00.200 Electric cars produce 3.6 times as much soot and smog death as gasoline cars.

00:14:06.680 It produces 86% more deaths from pollution.

00:14:11.320 And the reason for this, but I don't know if you're confused about this,

00:14:13.660 the reason why that is true is because electricity doesn't come from magic.

00:14:19.060 You might think that it comes from magic.

00:14:21.420 You know, you go, you've got your little electric car and you get to drive in the fast lane in Los Angeles,

00:14:26.280 and then you plug it in at night and then unicorns jump up and down joyfully and power your car.

00:14:32.320 That's not what happens.

00:14:33.020 Instead of unicorns on the other end, it's coal.

00:14:35.900 It's coal.

00:14:37.100 It's not exclusively coal, but it's largely coal.

00:14:40.160 39% of America's electricity is produced by coal.

00:14:43.840 Filthy, dirty, polluting coal.

00:14:47.160 How about ethanol?

00:14:47.960 You might say, well, what about ethanol?

00:14:48.760 Ethanol's good.

00:14:49.440 Isn't that good?

00:14:50.120 No, not at all.

00:14:51.340 Ethanol produces 80% more air pollution mortality than gasoline vehicles.

00:14:55.940 Also, it causes the price of corn to double or triple, which starves people in the third world. 1.00

00:15:00.920 Good job, environmentalists.

00:15:02.200 It's really nice.

00:15:02.820 You're killing people with your pollution and starving them in the third world. 1.00

00:15:06.040 Really nice.

00:15:07.540 The only good one, and this is the piece de la resistance, the only way to make the electric

00:15:14.300 cars work and not be terrible for the environment is there is a way.

00:15:17.900 There's a way to make electric cars half as polluting as gasoline vehicles.

00:15:23.020 Much, much better for the environment.

00:15:24.380 Do you know how to do that?

00:15:26.040 Natural gas.

00:15:27.360 Frack, baby, frack. 0.87

00:15:28.980 Oh, yes.

00:15:30.300 Now, the environmentalists, the one really good solution to all of this, other than nuclear,

00:15:36.400 which they also won't let us do, the other really good solution is natural gas.

00:15:39.420 And they won't let us do it because they spew out ridiculous propaganda like gas land and

00:15:44.080 tell us that natural gas is poisoning our water supplies. 0.97

00:15:46.540 Here's just a little clip from that ridiculous movie. 0.93

00:15:58.260 Oh, yeah. 0.75

00:15:58.760 I saw it go up for a second.

00:16:00.000 Yeah.

00:16:00.080 We'll just give it a second here.

00:16:15.240 Whoa.

00:16:21.400 That's the best I've done.

00:16:23.220 Oh, wow.

00:16:26.720 Look at that.

00:16:27.220 Isn't that crazy?

00:16:27.960 For those of you who couldn't see, he held his lighter underneath the faucet and after

00:16:31.860 a little while, there was a puff of fire, you know, from the gas that came in.

00:16:36.600 So, the implication here is that the fracking is poisoning our water supply.

00:16:41.360 That's the allegation.

00:16:43.140 The only trouble with that is that the Colorado Department of Natural Resources investigated

00:16:47.360 this case and said there are no indications of any oil and gas related impacts to the

00:16:52.120 well water.

00:16:53.720 What is true here, as is true in a lot of places where natural gas is prevalent, is that the

00:16:58.280 natural gas in the water supply comes from natural sources.

00:17:02.020 There was a Duke study published on this, also published in the Proceedings of the National

00:17:05.320 Academy of Sciences, showed that there's higher methane in water wells near gas wells.

00:17:10.540 That part's true.

00:17:11.320 Nobody's denying that.

00:17:13.020 The issue here, though, is it's caused by faulty steel casing and cement sealing.

00:17:17.360 On the wells, it's not caused by fracking.

00:17:19.980 It's also, by the way, that water supply is not contaminated by fracking fluids.

00:17:24.380 One reason for that is that fracking fluids are 99.5% water and sand.

00:17:29.340 It's actually just fine.

00:17:31.060 How about for the air?

00:17:31.920 Is fracking terrible for the air?

00:17:33.340 No, it's not terrible for the air.

00:17:34.660 Wrong.

00:17:35.540 Wrong again.

00:17:36.620 Natural gas industry is responsible for 2% of the Pennsylvania smog-causing volatile organic

00:17:42.020 compounds, 5% of nitrogen oxides, and 1% of small particulates emitted by oil.

00:17:47.360 All industry in that state.

00:17:48.920 We could go on and on with examples.

00:17:52.320 The aspect here that conservatives should really take away is not just the owning the

00:18:00.100 libs and the dancing and the spiking the football, all of which is great.

00:18:02.980 You should totally do that, too.

00:18:04.360 And it's not just that whenever an environmentalist says something, you should do the opposite,

00:18:08.400 though that is also true.

00:18:09.960 What it is is the limits of certainty, the limits of certainty in science, the limits

00:18:14.660 and certainty of knowledge.

00:18:16.060 We don't really know a lot of things.

00:18:18.180 And it takes a great deal of education to find out what you don't know.

00:18:23.900 I'm reminded of Donald Rumsfeld who said there are known knowns, known unknowns, and unknown

00:18:29.320 unknowns.

00:18:30.220 That's actually, he got pilloried for that.

00:18:32.020 He was made fun of.

00:18:32.760 But that's actually a pretty sophisticated degree of thinking.

00:18:36.100 We like certainty.

00:18:37.240 We like to pretend that the expert in the white lab coat is going to give us all of the

00:18:40.480 answers to the world.

00:18:41.340 They don't know anything.

00:18:42.260 They're much closer to shamans than they are to gods.

00:18:44.540 They don't know for certain.

00:18:46.640 One thing I know about science is that it's almost always not true, because they keep upending

00:18:50.800 preconceptions.

00:18:52.920 And when you act as though you have utter certainty about the physical world, about the material

00:18:56.900 world, you're going to get yourself into trouble.

00:18:58.700 And so the conservatives have a kind of contrarian streak in them by nature, I think.

00:19:03.920 When these people are telling you with certainty that in 200 years the world is going to explode

00:19:08.700 because you're using a sippy straw, you know, you're using a plastic straw instead of that

00:19:12.580 sippy cup, just tell them the other side of it.

00:19:16.520 Show them the other side of it.

00:19:17.460 It's really very enjoyable because, you know, environmentalism, it's so clear, but all shallows

00:19:23.580 are clear.

00:19:24.160 All shallow thinking is very clear.

00:19:26.200 I've got to get to This is America.

00:19:27.740 America, we're running a little late, as we always are.

00:19:30.140 I got to interview the Griffin family.

00:19:32.160 They are, it's unbelievable.

00:19:35.120 I'll let them speak for themselves, but the mother, Mrs. Griffin, was, you know, nine months

00:19:41.700 pregnant and a little early.

00:19:44.480 And she went into a Chick-fil-A bathroom to use the bathroom. 1.00

00:19:48.620 And she ended up giving birth to a child.

00:19:50.580 This is the most American story I've ever heard.

00:19:52.700 I think I'm basically going to have to shut my show down after this because I can never get

00:19:55.840 anything more patriotic than the Griffin story.

00:19:58.460 Without further ado, here they are.

00:20:00.720 We have the Griffins.

00:20:01.880 Thank you so much for being here.

00:20:04.340 Thank you.

00:20:04.900 We're glad to be here.

00:20:06.160 I'm really honored because I know you haven't done a ton of interviews, but I saw this story.

00:20:09.900 And just for people who haven't heard all of the background, you gave, Mrs. Griffin, you gave

00:20:17.260 birth and Mr. Griffin, you helped deliver your new daughter in the bathroom of a Chick-fil-A

00:20:23.080 in Texas.

00:20:24.500 You then swaddled the baby in your shirt, which was a Trump 2020 shirt.

00:20:30.000 I have to ask you, is this the most American thing that has ever happened in history?

00:20:34.520 We were actually going to have a bald eagle cut the cord.

00:20:39.700 That would have solidified it.

00:20:41.540 If fireworks went off in the cash registers in Chick-fil-A.

00:20:46.620 Well, actually, you bring up the umbilical cord, and this is a really incredible part of the story

00:20:51.120 that hasn't gotten a ton of attention, which is that there were a lot of potential complications

00:20:56.240 here to this birth.

00:20:58.200 Mrs. Griffin, I believe you have epilepsy or you suffer from epilepsy.

00:21:01.200 And the baby was said to possibly have a heart condition.

00:21:06.880 This was one of the worries.

00:21:08.580 And the umbilical cord was wrapped around your daughter's neck.

00:21:12.780 Is that right?

00:21:13.980 That's right.

00:21:14.840 Yeah, that's absolutely correct.

00:21:16.240 In fact, in the delivery room, all of this was pre-planned for the birthing plan because

00:21:21.420 of the high risk of the baby and the mom.

00:21:23.960 We were supposed to have between eight to 10 doctors in the delivery room from neonatal specialists 0.93

00:21:29.080 to cardiologists to, I mean, you name it.

00:21:32.260 There was just supposed to be a room full of doctors, not a bathroom stall with just us.

00:21:37.240 And then there was you.

00:21:38.520 So I do want to ask, before I ask how you were able to do this, because I think if this

00:21:44.320 set of challenges were presented to me, there would be a Michael-shaped hole in the wall.

00:21:47.820 I would just run screaming for dear life.

00:21:50.260 How did this happen?

00:21:51.320 How did you end up in the Chick-fil-A?

00:21:53.440 Okay, so we live 45 miles from the hospital.

00:21:58.420 We live out in Hill Country, Texas.

00:22:00.420 So, you know, we drive by a lot of cattle ranches.

00:22:02.680 We don't drive by a lot of hospitals.

00:22:04.180 In fact, there's not a hospital between us.

00:22:06.660 And the hospital that we had to go to was because of the high risk of both the wife and 0.99

00:22:12.800 the baby.

00:22:13.380 So we had to go to that hospital.

00:22:16.040 Like I said, all of those specialists that were waiting for us there.

00:22:19.380 Earlier in the day, earlier in the day, we had gone to her 38-week checkup.

00:22:26.720 Gracelyn May was born two weeks early to the day.

00:22:29.460 So earlier in the day, we went to her two-week checkup.

00:22:32.280 And her doctor checked Fallon out and said, you know, she's three centimeters, but she should

00:22:38.680 be okay.

00:22:39.320 You know, go home, relax, take a bath, have fun.

00:22:42.480 You know, it's maybe three days, maybe seven days.

00:22:44.780 You guys have time.

00:22:46.060 So you know what I did?

00:22:46.740 I said, honey, can you take me to the nail salon?

00:22:49.500 I'm going to go get a pedicure.

00:22:52.580 I was having contractions, but they weren't like anything.

00:22:56.060 They were mild.

00:22:56.880 They were mild.

00:22:57.500 I mean, I've had two babies before, so I kind of knew what was going on.

00:23:01.740 I knew they weren't Brex and Hicks.

00:23:03.440 I knew they were, you know, it could be any day now kind of thing.

00:23:06.920 But I, when I got to the nail salon, I was like, okay, no massaging, just change the paint

00:23:12.220 color.

00:23:12.780 Cause I don't want, you know, to bring on my labor.

00:23:14.760 I was, you know, really not wanting her to come two weeks early, but.

00:23:17.940 You said, I'm on a schedule here.

00:23:19.520 I only, listen, I want to look good when Grace LeMay arrives, but I, you know, you can't.

00:23:23.740 I wanted my pink toes because I'm having a girl.

00:23:26.080 I wanted pink paint nails. 1.00

00:23:27.960 And the only reason we ended up at the Chick-fil-A was one of our good friends who was going to

00:23:32.540 watch our older girls for us when we, we actually went to the hospital, lives in the community

00:23:37.160 right behind that, that shopping center.

00:23:39.540 So we had called her and said, Hey, we don't have time to meet you at your house.

00:23:43.580 Just meet us in the parking lot of Chick-fil-A.

00:23:45.280 There's no signal right there.

00:23:46.280 Just jump right off the highway, drop the kids off in the parking lot and away we go.

00:23:49.680 That was the plan.

00:23:51.040 So when we pulled into that Chick-fil-A a little bit after 20 minutes after 10, obviously they

00:23:55.160 were closed.

00:23:55.620 We knew they were closed.

00:23:56.820 Yeah.

00:23:57.660 It must've looked like something completely sketchy because we come screeching in there right

00:24:02.820 in front of the Chick-fil-A.

00:24:03.980 And then here comes our friend screeching right up next to us.

00:24:06.860 We jump out of the car and putting kids in her car. 1.00

00:24:09.180 If I was in the Chick-fil-A looking outside, I probably would have called my one-one then

00:24:13.180 and said, we're about to get robbed because there's some sketchy stuff going on out front.

00:24:17.260 It was so sketchy.

00:24:18.320 He's like banging on the door.

00:24:19.800 They hadn't seen me yet.

00:24:21.020 So they're like, who's this guy that I can only imagine what was on.

00:24:26.440 I'm about to, I'm about to have a baby.

00:24:28.300 My wife's going to give birth. 1.00

00:24:29.220 We've heard that one before, buddy.

00:24:30.840 All right.

00:24:31.200 Don't you try that one on us.

00:24:32.780 I really, I was in denial.

00:24:34.400 I really didn't think I was going to be giving birth.

00:24:36.000 I thought I had to go to the bathroom.

00:24:38.180 I was like, I think we have time to stop since Chick-fil-A is the only lighted place

00:24:42.200 up in this parking lot.

00:24:43.160 I was like, let's see if they'll let me in.

00:24:44.720 I have to go use the restroom.

00:24:46.900 That's the truth.

00:24:47.720 I swear to you.

00:24:48.400 I said, I really have to go.

00:24:49.880 Please let me in.

00:24:51.100 So then you go in.

00:24:52.160 I assume, Mr. Griffin, that you did not join your wife in the bathroom.

00:24:56.260 So you go into the bathroom.

00:24:57.620 And then at what point do you know that you're about to have a daughter?

00:25:03.080 Oh, sorry.

00:25:06.180 So once they opened the door for her, which the Chick-fil-A employees, check this out.

00:25:13.800 The only reason why they were even there is the employees at Chick-fil-A, they were just

00:25:18.440 waiting for their parents to come pick them up.

00:25:20.900 That's it.

00:25:21.460 So, yeah, I don't know for a fact, but after hearing all this, I was thinking maybe they're

00:25:27.180 underage or maybe they're not licensed or they're just teenage kids.

00:25:31.040 They definitely were young because the looks on their faces were like, that is the best

00:25:34.320 birth control ever.

00:25:36.200 Yeah, that's right.

00:25:37.300 We're abstaining from sex, probably after marriage too.

00:25:40.700 Just it's over.

00:25:42.820 So, so you're, you're in the bathroom, you're, you're giving birth.

00:25:47.180 And what I want to know is, uh, Mr. Griffin, you, this is not an easy birth.

00:25:52.520 I guess you've had a little bit of practice with this before.

00:25:54.880 You've got a couple of kids.

00:25:56.660 Uh, were you terrified?

00:25:59.280 I mean, I would just be so in any, in the best of circumstances, I would be sweating bullets,

00:26:05.740 sweating blood probably in these circumstances.

00:26:08.120 How did you keep it together?

00:26:10.680 You know, that's a good question.

00:26:12.660 Well, I don't know how I kept together.

00:26:14.280 I just kept thinking, I thought I had to go to the bathroom.

00:26:18.840 Apparently something else is coming.

00:26:20.940 I was like, Oh, this is happening.

00:26:22.920 And so I, of course I'm screaming, you know, I'm in excruciating pain and that's how I found

00:26:30.860 out I'm straddling the toilet.

00:26:32.760 I mean, I can't physically sit down.

00:26:34.420 My legs are giving out on me.

00:26:35.960 I'm shaking uncontrollably.

00:26:37.340 And I realized, Oh my gosh, this is happening.

00:26:41.060 There's a head coming out of me.

00:26:43.180 And I know it's like a TMI, but it was like, it was happening.

00:26:47.720 I scream and Brenda, the, um, the lady working that night, um, she's a drive-through director. 1.00

00:26:54.500 Uh, her name's Brenda Enriquez to be exact. 0.98

00:26:57.780 She, you know, was banning her crew. 1.00

00:27:00.740 You know, they're like, like we said, they, they were closed and so they were just finishing

00:27:04.580 up their job and she heard me screaming.

00:27:06.760 So she's screaming for him.

00:27:08.460 He doesn't even know his name.

00:27:09.440 She's like, Hey, your wife's screaming in the bathroom. 1.00

00:27:11.980 Yeah.

00:27:12.400 Go help her. 1.00

00:27:13.580 Yeah.

00:27:13.980 I had just put the, kiss the kids goodnight and try to calm them down a little bit.

00:27:17.340 Cause they were a little concerned.

00:27:18.940 I just said, you know, traumatized, you know, kiss them goodnight.

00:27:21.080 Your guys are going to be fine.

00:27:22.000 And then as I was walking back to the Chick-fil-A, I heard Brenda scream, your wife's in the bathroom 1.00

00:27:27.080 and she's screaming.

00:27:27.740 So I run in there and she had locked the door because, cause that's what you do. 1.00

00:27:31.520 That's what you do.

00:27:32.480 Oh no.

00:27:34.360 Okay.

00:27:35.120 Yeah.

00:27:35.560 So we got the door unlocked and I, when I, I opened it up and she's in the first stall, 0.98

00:27:40.180 which is the tiniest of them all.

00:27:42.140 It's made for one, definitely not made for two and a baby to clear, to set the record straight.

00:27:48.040 I did not choose the handicapped stall because I did not have time.

00:27:51.740 Something was going to give.

00:27:53.200 I didn't know what it was.

00:27:54.000 I just thought it's very, very polite of you.

00:27:55.680 You think, well, I'm not handicapped.

00:27:57.060 I don't really need it.

00:27:58.080 What if somebody else needs it?

00:27:59.140 I'll use the small one.

00:28:01.200 It's exactly right.

00:28:02.320 It's exactly good intuition there.

00:28:04.100 I don't know.

00:28:05.280 I just really had to go.

00:28:06.840 So all I could do was wedge between the toilet and the back wall of the stall and get into

00:28:11.980 that back little corner there and, um, you know, kind of assess what was going on.

00:28:16.620 And I could just see the head crowning and my wife was standing and I told her, honey,

00:28:21.320 we're going to do something great, but we're going to do it right here and we're going to

00:28:24.180 do it right now.

00:28:25.460 So she put one hand on the sidewall and, uh, first the, her head came out.

00:28:33.380 Before that I was holding her in.

00:28:35.300 Cause my biggest fear was dropping her in the toilet. 1.00

00:28:37.460 And I, I had my, my water had broken the moment he literally like open the door jammed in.

00:28:45.380 And so there was just no time for error.

00:28:48.660 He, like he said, he came in, he wedged himself back there and he was,

00:28:52.600 it was, it was, I was the quarterback.

00:28:55.920 I told her, I said, you know, you were the CEO, you're the manufacturer.

00:29:03.640 You're the, you, you did the, you were the whole, I just ran your shipping and receiving.

00:29:06.820 That's all I did.

00:29:07.840 Well, it is really amazing to consider the mental states of both of you at this point,

00:29:13.080 because Mr. Griffin, on the one hand, you're there, you're thinking, I look, I'm, I'm the

00:29:17.320 one who's not physically incapacitated.

00:29:19.200 I've got to kind of manage this, control this, you know, make sure that the umbilical cord

00:29:23.700 isn't going to remain wrapped around her neck, whatever.

00:29:25.920 But then Mrs. Griffin, you are in the worst, basically the worst of circumstances to be

00:29:31.780 doing this and, and no drugs whatsoever, no, no pain medication at all.

00:29:35.980 You are just going for it.

00:29:38.020 That's correct.

00:29:38.720 Not even a bed.

00:29:39.740 I mean, so, so she delivered standing up. 0.78

00:29:42.760 Oh my God.

00:29:44.560 Do you get a medal of honor for that or something?

00:29:46.680 That is, you know, we've all had to suffer through the world cup over the past few weeks,

00:29:51.240 the least athletic pseudo sport in history.

00:29:53.320 Meanwhile, you're doing the most athletic feat ever to be done.

00:29:57.300 You know, you're up there like tap dancing while giving birth.

00:29:59.500 Really unbelievable.

00:30:00.760 Oh my God.

00:30:01.300 So, so you do this and the, and the baby's fine.

00:30:05.020 There's no worry of, uh, you know, the, the umbilical cord or anything like that.

00:30:08.700 How did you manage that?

00:30:09.500 So what happened was, um, as soon as I saw that the head was crowning, that's when I yelled

00:30:14.340 to whoever could hear, cause there were no Chick-fil-A employees in the bathroom and

00:30:17.580 I wasn't looking for them.

00:30:18.680 I just shouted, somebody call 911 and bring me towels or clean something clean, whatever

00:30:22.940 you've got.

00:30:24.060 And, um, like I said, the, the head stopped her at the shoulders because I could tell that

00:30:30.080 the cord was wrapped around her neck twice.

00:30:31.680 And the baby's face was blue.

00:30:34.240 So unwrap the cord twice and then told Fallon, Hey, we've got, I need two really good pushes.

00:30:40.100 We've got to get her out of here right now. 1.00

00:30:42.100 So she pushed hard and she came out and, um, I couldn't see anything by the way.

00:30:49.360 No, I'm staring at the stall bathroom door.

00:30:52.420 He's behind me.

00:30:53.300 So I didn't want to alarm her that the cord was wrapped around the neck because one of

00:30:58.280 the big concerns with this pregnancy and this delivery was because of the epilepsy, lowering

00:31:03.800 her threshold of having a seizure was a real danger.

00:31:07.760 So I didn't want to put an extra stress on her saying, Hey, the cords wrapped around her. 0.89

00:31:11.460 I just told her, Hey, relax for a minute. 0.58

00:31:12.800 There's something I got to do.

00:31:14.520 And, uh, got that done and just told her to push and, uh, wrapped her up in my Trump shirt, 0.99

00:31:21.300 which was highly appropriate.

00:31:23.420 And, uh, and, uh, that's all I had at that time when she, she, when she did come out,

00:31:28.880 I had two paper towels and my Trump shirt.

00:31:31.160 And that's how I dried off Gracie is with that. 0.99

00:31:35.080 And then the Chick-fil-A representative, uh, Brenda came back in with 9-1-1 on the phone 0.98

00:31:41.620 and she was going to hand me the phone.

00:31:42.740 I'm like, you, you, you've got to put them on speaker.

00:31:44.600 I need to relay messages to the phone, please.

00:31:47.740 So she did.

00:31:48.660 And, um, so I was asking questions, um, about, you know, her being blue.

00:31:54.260 I knew it was one of two things, either oxygen levels were low or she was cold.

00:31:57.700 And all I had was wet things.

00:31:59.480 But really quickly after that, Chick-fil-A started bringing in some of the towels that 1.00

00:32:03.640 they had.

00:32:04.220 And let me tell you something.

00:32:05.660 If you don't think that there was divine intervention in this whole thing, I'll just

00:32:08.700 give you one little snippet.

00:32:10.400 Those towels that they brought in, I was asking for warm towels and they brought them to me

00:32:14.740 and they were brand new white towels about the size of a kitchen towel, terry cloth that

00:32:19.580 were warm.

00:32:20.560 And I, I thought, wow, that's awesome.

00:32:22.620 They were microwaving them, putting them in whatever they were doing.

00:32:24.700 How resourceful was it?

00:32:26.100 It turns out that Brenda knew that in their, one of their storage rooms was brand new towels.

00:32:33.200 And just happened that that day, the air conditioning went out in that room only.

00:32:37.360 So she went in there and there were nice warm towels because it was 104 degrees that day

00:32:41.180 in San Antonio.

00:32:42.060 They didn't microwave them.

00:32:43.140 They didn't cook them or anything.

00:32:44.140 They were nice warm towels sitting there wrapped in plastic.

00:32:48.100 She just opened them up and brought them to us.

00:32:49.960 You know, I, I, I'm a big believer in Providence.

00:32:54.380 I, you can see these sorts of things all the time.

00:32:56.940 And it is amazing.

00:32:58.000 I always think that God sometimes, you know, he'll whisper in your ear, he'll say, Hey,

00:33:01.600 Michael, Hey, you know, and then of course we don't ever notice.

00:33:04.260 So he says, Hey dummy, come on, look, I'm right here.

00:33:06.340 And you know, so you have the, the Chick-fil-A, this, this American institution, you've got

00:33:11.440 the Trump shirt, you know, self-reliance, delivering yourself.

00:33:15.140 And then this.

00:33:15.800 Well, and I'm praying that everything behind me is going well because I sure as heck don't

00:33:21.080 know how to deliver a baby by myself.

00:33:22.680 I'm like, Oh dude, I hope this guy knows what he's doing.

00:33:25.320 But no, no, I literally, no, in all seriousness, I was praying and I just said,

00:33:31.600 please, like, please, Lord, give my husband wisdom and, um, patience and strength.

00:33:37.200 And I was just praying for everything.

00:33:38.420 And just, of course, praying for this baby to catch her.

00:33:42.500 Yeah, exactly.

00:33:44.140 Uh, I wanted her to cry cause I didn't hear her cry right away. 0.58

00:33:46.980 So I knew something was up when she wasn't crying.

00:33:49.580 Um, Oh, you did.

00:33:50.600 So that, that was the kind of hint.

00:33:52.000 You couldn't, couldn't hide it forever.

00:33:53.540 Something might be wrong.

00:33:55.420 Wow.

00:33:55.820 But I was trying to stay calm.

00:33:57.120 And because again, the seizure was definitely a concern of mine and, um, we needed just to

00:34:03.740 be a good team.

00:34:04.580 And so I just knew I just needed to hang in there.

00:34:06.900 And it was, it was a rough, it was a rough few minutes, but, um, actually about 10 minutes

00:34:14.580 before the EMTs came.

00:34:16.200 Yeah.

00:34:16.420 The EMS didn't show up for about seven to 10 minutes after.

00:34:19.780 Unbelievable.

00:34:20.220 I, you know, I tell you the whole time I could not sit down because then both before the placenta

00:34:26.680 is still attached to me.

00:34:28.140 And so if I had moved one inch in any direction, it would pull it from her belly, from her belly 1.00

00:34:34.800 button.

00:34:34.920 Oh my gosh.

00:34:35.820 So it was a bit, and he's tall.

00:34:37.700 She couldn't, she couldn't sit.

00:34:38.740 So he's trying to hunch over and I'm hunched over and my body is, my nerves are shot.

00:34:43.280 And I have to tell you, my, my nerves are shot just listening to the story.

00:34:47.760 I, I'm on the edge of my seat, even though I know it has a happy ending.

00:34:51.740 I, I picture, I haven't had my first child yet.

00:34:54.420 And I've always pictured sort of like a pacing around the waiting room and like a blazer chain

00:34:59.340 smoking, reading the newspaper.

00:35:01.100 And, uh, this is exactly the opposite of that.

00:35:03.920 But you know, your daughter's name is Grace Lynn May, uh, aptly named, clearly grace abounds

00:35:09.700 here.

00:35:09.940 This is, this is just an incredible story.

00:35:11.580 I mean, this is America in a nutshell.

00:35:13.600 And I'm so pleased for all of you, I have to let you go, but I'm so pleased that,

00:35:17.760 uh, everything worked out as miraculously as it did.

00:35:21.680 And, and you now have a lifetime supply of Chick-fil-A and a job for your daughter when

00:35:25.700 she turns 16.

00:35:27.100 It just keeps getting better, right?

00:35:28.860 I know.

00:35:29.660 I don't know what the best part of that story is.

00:35:32.140 It's so wonderful.

00:35:32.860 I've got to let you go.

00:35:33.940 Uh, but she's the cutest little nugget. 1.00

00:35:37.700 It's just, it is amazing.

00:35:39.900 She's in a milk coma. 0.57

00:35:41.460 I do always, uh, I, I sometimes joke with my wife.

00:35:44.720 We, we say, you know, gosh, I really, really hope that our baby is cute.

00:35:48.580 I really hope our first baby is cute.

00:35:50.160 And you, you clearly lucked out even on that front, even on that front, grace abounds.

00:35:54.660 Unbelievable story.

00:35:55.500 Thank you so much for coming on the Griffins.

00:35:57.940 Uh, I can't, I can't wait to, uh, I'll check back in in 16 years, uh, when, when your daughter

00:36:02.840 gets her job at Chick-fil-A.

00:36:04.160 All right.

00:36:04.540 Thank you very much.

00:36:05.340 God bless.

00:36:05.680 All right.

00:36:06.120 God bless.

00:36:06.740 See you guys.

00:36:09.380 This is America.

00:36:10.600 That is very America.

00:36:12.000 If only the bald eagle came down and clipped the umbilical cord with its talons.

00:36:15.540 Uh, so I've got to say goodbye to Facebook and YouTube.

00:36:17.820 We've got a lot more to get to.

00:36:18.720 I do want to talk about this election a little bit.

00:36:20.340 I want to talk about the celebrities who are going to be jumping in and, uh, probably

00:36:26.220 destroying Democrats' chances again, just like they did in 2016.

00:36:29.080 And also the new Republican challenger who is now suggesting he will primary Donald Trump

00:36:35.740 in 2020.

00:36:36.780 We'll see how that goes.

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00:36:46.020 Uh, look, none of it matters.

00:36:48.680 The conversation, the mailbag, get your mailbag questions in, right?

00:36:51.100 I mean, whatever.

00:36:52.920 This is what matters.

00:36:54.460 This is what matters.

00:36:55.240 I'm going to DC in about 20 minutes.

00:36:57.500 I'm going down, uh, to give a speech at, uh, YAF, Young America's Foundation, and I'm

00:37:02.600 going to be talking about the great benefits of owning the libs, a robust defense of owning

00:37:07.900 the libs.

00:37:08.260 And you're going to need this tumbler because otherwise the whole district of Columbia is

00:37:11.260 going to flood and you're going to drown.

00:37:13.180 Don't drown.

00:37:13.800 Make sure you get your leftist tears tumbler and make sure you get extra plastic on it just

00:37:17.720 all over the place.

00:37:18.880 Maybe if you have, if you have an old leftist tears tumbler, just toss it in the Pacific Ocean.

00:37:22.640 Get a new one.

00:37:23.400 Sign up again.

00:37:24.180 Go to dailywire.com.

00:37:25.480 We'll be right back.

00:37:27.500 Okay.

00:37:36.500 The election's back on.

00:37:37.820 All the celebrities are coming out in force to stump for Democrats just like they did in

00:37:43.660 2016.

00:37:44.600 Womp womp. 0.99

00:37:45.460 Here is a new public service announcement from the voice of the American people, Vox Populi,

00:37:51.740 Jane Fonda and Lily Tomlin.

00:37:53.580 Hi, I'm Jane Fonda.

00:37:56.180 I'm Lily Tomlin.

00:37:57.560 I'm Rashida Jones.

00:37:58.760 Do you care about gun control, women's health, income inequality, the environment, health care?

00:38:04.900 Did I not call my dentist back?

00:38:07.060 Oh, I'm already six months late on my annual cleaning.

00:38:10.000 Rashida.

00:38:10.680 Oh no.

00:38:11.540 Is that a toothache?

00:38:12.820 Rashida.

00:38:13.420 Come on.

00:38:13.800 This is important.

00:38:15.040 You're right.

00:38:16.140 I know our democracy's at stake.

00:38:18.100 I'm sorry.

00:38:19.040 I do have a great dentist, by the way.

00:38:20.460 I'll give you her number when we're done.

00:38:22.040 Are you hearing my thoughts?

00:38:23.400 Not important.

00:38:24.420 Just get back to your lines, please.

00:38:26.920 Uh, voter turnout during midterms is historically terrible, with nearly half the voters compared

00:38:32.360 to years with presidential elections.

00:38:34.400 And that's just not going to work this November.

00:38:36.540 Wow, I can't believe we're still fighting to protect basic human rights and the planet.

00:38:42.480 I'm exhausted.

00:38:43.420 You're exhausted.

00:38:44.860 I've been fighting for six decades.

00:38:46.920 Oh, we gotta get people to volunteer to make sure other people vote. 0.93

00:38:50.500 Then can we go lie down somewhere, maybe with a beach?

00:38:53.920 Yes.

00:38:54.680 That'd be good.

00:38:56.500 Lily Tomlin's trying to save the planet. 0.90

00:38:58.440 Is she just using, like, five plastic straws at a time while driving her Hummer around? 0.99

00:39:03.240 I didn't, this has taken a turn that I didn't expect.

00:39:05.660 Is this a Hummer ad?

00:39:07.100 That's great.

00:39:09.140 Uh, so absurd. 0.96

00:39:10.320 I mean, really, really ridiculous. 0.98

00:39:12.060 I hope they keep doing this.

00:39:13.560 I counted up on the Wikipedia page last night of the Hillary Clinton 2016 presidential race.

00:39:18.980 I believe the number is 1,868 celebrities, athletes, actors, directors, musicians, endorsed

00:39:29.100 Hillary Clinton in 2016.

00:39:30.540 Nobody cares.

00:39:31.300 Nobody cares for a few reasons.

00:39:32.840 One, because we have other things on our mind.

00:39:36.600 And two, there's not a celebrity disparity anymore.

00:39:39.900 We have one of the biggest Hollywood celebrities not only stumping for us, but he's actually

00:39:43.480 our president.

00:39:44.320 We have him in the White House.

00:39:45.720 And it totally nixes that.

00:39:47.460 Also, Hollywood looks awful with all this Me Too stuff.

00:39:50.260 You know, these people look really morally decrepit.

00:39:54.880 And they haven't turned out good product in a long time, other than Mission Impossible 3.

00:39:59.220 When Tom Cruise tells me to vote for somebody, I'll probably vote for that person.

00:40:02.420 But all of these other people, I don't, why would I listen to Jane Fonda?

00:40:05.200 Jane Fonda's a traitor to her country who posed on anti-aircraft for the Vietnamese. 0.84

00:40:09.220 Hanoi Jane. 0.93

00:40:09.900 Who cares what they have to say?

00:40:11.880 That is not a big issue.

00:40:13.840 In other celebrity 2020 news, LeBron James is suggesting that he's going to run for office

00:40:19.260 now.

00:40:19.500 You know, we're just in the throes of silly season when all of this happens, the dog days

00:40:23.700 of summer. 0.70

00:40:25.140 The one story worth mentioning, though, because I suppose it could be real, it's also ridiculous,

00:40:30.660 is being reported by the Daily Caller, which is that Bill Kristol, the former editor, now

00:40:37.540 editor-at-large of the Weekly Standard, Bill Kristol, considered neoconservative, Straussian

00:40:44.800 magazine editor, very anti-Trump, is considering primarying Donald Trump in 2020.

00:40:51.680 I like Bill Kristol very much.

00:40:53.480 I should get this out of the way.

00:40:55.660 Bill Kristol was a professor of mine during a summer fellowship that I had.

00:40:59.520 He's been very nice.

00:41:00.760 I listened to his podcast, Conversations with Bill Kristol.

00:41:04.100 I actually like the guy, even though he's really going off the rails with this never-Trump

00:41:08.380 and anti-Trump stuff.

00:41:09.660 But he should not run for president in 2020.

00:41:12.540 It will not help him, it will not help the Republican Party, it will not help the conservative

00:41:16.500 movement. 0.98

00:41:17.240 It will just look really, really foolish and frivolous. 0.99

00:41:21.820 He said this. 0.92

00:41:22.900 He said this to the New York Times in 2017.

00:41:24.820 Bill Kristol said, we need to take one shot at liberating the Republican Party from Trump

00:41:30.040 and conservatism from Trumpism.

00:41:33.200 And here's my question for Mr. Kristol.

00:41:36.000 Why?

00:41:37.600 Why do we have to do that?

00:41:39.300 We've gotten historic tax reform, excellent judges, federal judges, and Supreme Court justices,

00:41:47.320 peace abroad, really strong foreign policy, good foreign policy, a booming economy.

00:41:53.920 We've gotten record low joblessness.

00:41:57.080 We've got the issues that Democrats usually harp on racial division.

00:42:01.000 We've kind of wiped those out because not only are we winning in the popular culture, but

00:42:06.500 we're also winning historically low black unemployment.

00:42:10.480 Hate crimes are down.

00:42:11.880 I think all crime is hate crime, but hate crime, as we define it, is down.

00:42:16.140 Everything is going so well.

00:42:18.420 That doesn't even scratch the surface.

00:42:21.520 Why do we need to liberate the Republican Party from Trump?

00:42:24.540 Is it because the years of George W. Bush were so much better for conservative governance?

00:42:29.480 I'm not attacking President Bush, but is that really the height of conservatism?

00:42:34.160 I don't think.

00:42:34.520 So was Medicare Part D the height of conservatism?

00:42:36.840 No Child Left Behind, was that the height of conservatism?

00:42:39.600 Harriet Myers, even John Roberts, was that great conservative governance?

00:42:44.100 I don't know about that.

00:42:45.680 George Bush Sr., is that raising taxes?

00:42:48.640 Is that the height?

00:42:49.200 I don't know.

00:42:50.060 Why on earth would we liberate the Republican Party from Trump and conservatism from Trumpism?

00:42:54.340 I understand the skepticism of President Trump in 2016, but he's done a very good job.

00:43:00.120 You know, we laugh about LeBron James running for office or Oprah or whatever, and they 0.92

00:43:04.940 say, well, it's hypocritical, Michael.

00:43:06.320 We're in the age of the celebrity.

00:43:07.960 Donald Trump isn't qualified to be president, and I agree with that in 2016, but now he is.

00:43:14.720 He clearly was qualified to be president.

00:43:17.080 He's been a very good president.

00:43:18.940 You can't say, well, now we're just electing celebrities who are unqualified.

00:43:22.580 No, no, no.

00:43:23.040 That could have been the case had Trump been a bad president, but he's been good.

00:43:25.940 So I don't understand that.

00:43:27.480 I think it's really navel-gazing. 0.97

00:43:29.040 It's really ideological, really frivolous, really silly. 0.93

00:43:32.300 According to the Daily Caller, Mr. Crystal is in Boston now. 0.86

00:43:35.840 He's meeting with New Hampshire political strategists.

00:43:38.940 He went to a New Hampshire political event.

00:43:41.080 It's really not a good idea.

00:43:42.600 I really do like what Mr. Crystal offers to the conservative movement.

00:43:46.060 I recommend listening to some of his podcasts, even though they need to fix the audio on it.

00:43:50.200 The audio is not great, but the show is really quite interesting.

00:43:53.680 But this is absurd.

00:43:55.500 What are we fighting for?

00:43:57.100 Are we fighting one another over how best to hold our teacup or how to comport ourselves

00:44:02.600 at cocktail parties in Georgetown?

00:44:04.420 Is that what we're doing?

00:44:05.360 Or are we fighting for liberty?

00:44:06.480 Because if it's the former, then fine.

00:44:08.360 Attack Trump all you want.

00:44:09.340 If it's the latter, get your priorities straight.

00:44:13.040 What are you doing?

00:44:13.700 What are you people doing?

00:44:14.440 Because there are real issues that are being fought.

00:44:16.660 Rich Lowry from National Review has an excellent column out about how the United States is

00:44:21.340 now debating socialism.

00:44:23.060 We are seriously considering socialism.

00:44:25.620 You can say crazy-eyed Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

00:44:28.600 She's not a serious candidate. 0.96

00:44:30.280 She's not taken over the party.

00:44:31.940 You know, there are 42 candidates running with the Democratic Socialists endorsement in 2018.

00:44:38.160 This is growing.

00:44:39.840 Bernie Sanders has really opened this up.

00:44:42.580 He's brought this Medicare for All socialist medicine canard.

00:44:46.660 He's made it mainstream.

00:44:48.580 And socialism is slavery.

00:44:50.880 Healthcare is the place that they try to do it most.

00:44:53.200 President Reagan, before he was president, when he was still just a terrific B-movie actor

00:44:57.700 in Hollywood, he had a great album about the evils of socialist medicine.

00:45:02.440 We need to be fighting that.

00:45:03.320 We don't need to be fighting over how to hold our Chablis glasses.

00:45:06.500 We need to fight this real battle because it's coming and it's evil and it could really

00:45:10.820 destroy the country.

00:45:11.800 Here, for those of you who haven't heard it, is Ronald Reagan talking about the evils of socialist

00:45:15.560 medicine.

00:45:16.660 My name is Ronald Reagan.

00:45:18.580 I have been asked to talk on several subjects that have to do with the problems of the day.

00:45:24.720 Now, back in 1927, an American socialist, Norman Thomas, six times candidate for president

00:45:31.160 in the Socialist Party ticket, said the American people would never vote for socialism.

00:45:34.980 But he said, under the name of liberalism, the American people will adopt every fragment of the socialist program.

00:45:40.500 There are many ways in which our government has invaded the precincts of private citizens, the method of earning a living.

00:45:48.700 One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine.

00:45:58.540 It's very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project.

00:46:04.260 Most people are a little reluctant to oppose anything that suggests medical care for people who possibly can't afford it.

00:46:10.980 Now, in our country, under our free enterprise system, we have seen medicine reach the greatest heights that it has in any country in the world.

00:46:19.420 Today, the relationship between patient and doctor in this country is something to be envied anyplace.

00:46:26.920 The privacy, the care that is given to a person, the right to choose a doctor, the right to go from one doctor to the other.

00:46:33.580 The right to choose, the quality of the care, the prosperity that it engenders and that it symbolizes.

00:46:41.600 You should listen to the whole thing. The whole album is 10 or 11 minutes. You can find it all over YouTube.

00:46:45.700 Go listen to it. It's very important.

00:46:47.700 Socialism is slavery. The way they try to institute it, they get it in by the back door on health care

00:46:52.040 because they think people won't act rationally on health care.

00:46:55.280 They won't be willing to point out the advantages of freedom in health care because it's so immediate.

00:47:01.480 It's so emotional. Don't let them do it.

00:47:03.760 The government that's big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you've got.

00:47:07.940 Health care is the key here.

00:47:09.240 If you have looked at no other news story in the last couple of years, look at little baby Alfie Evans

00:47:14.260 or little baby Charlie Gard in the UK, babies who their parents wanted them to get treatment elsewhere.

00:47:21.520 But the socialist government in the UK, I'm not talking about Venezuela, I'm talking about the developed world,

00:47:26.140 the United Kingdom, would not let those babies seek treatment in the United States or in Rome or anywhere else.

00:47:32.540 They said, this baby is going to stay here. We own this baby. The baby is going to die. Deal with it. 0.85

00:47:37.120 The government that is big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to own you,

00:47:42.240 big enough to take away everything you've got. You've got to fight it tooth and nail.

00:47:45.420 Medicare for all is slavery. And get your priorities in order, people. 0.68

00:47:48.660 People don't get angry because President Trump doesn't spell all of his tweets correctly or he uses random capitalization. 0.99

00:47:55.120 There's a really evil, evil ideology that is rearing its ugly, crazy-eyed, batty head. 1.00

00:48:01.440 And we've got to fight it very seriously. 0.98

00:48:03.600 I'm going to D.C. I'm getting out of here.

00:48:05.940 I will not see you tomorrow, but I'll be back Thursday and Friday.

00:48:08.440 Get your mailbag questions in. We're doing it Thursday.

00:48:10.320 If you're in D.C. or if you're at the YAF conference, I'll see you there.

00:48:13.440 In the meantime, I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show. I'll see you soon.

00:48:18.660 The Michael Knowles Show is produced by Senia Villareal.

00:48:24.720 Executive producer, Jeremy Borey.

00:48:26.800 Senior producer, Jonathan Hay.

00:48:28.640 Our supervising producer, Mathis Glover.

00:48:31.240 And our technical producer is Austin Stevens.

00:48:33.860 Edited by Jim Nickel.

00:48:35.380 Audio is mixed by Mike Coromina.

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