The Michael Knowles Show - March 20, 2026


Ep. 1936 - The Bachelorette CANCELED After Star Throws Chair At Baby Daddy


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A woman threw a chair at her baby's father in front of her own child, and no one is talking about it. Then a Democratic presidential candidate promises to prosecute Trump supporters if they win the 2020 election. And President Trump gives the greatest one-liner in the history of press conferences during an Oval Office appearance with Japan s prime minister.

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00:00:42.780 The new reality TV bachelorette, who used to be a secret lives of Mormon wife, 1.00
00:00:50.120 is under scrutiny for a two-year-old video in which she threw a chair at one of her baby's daddy
00:00:56.960 in front of her child.
00:00:58.480 And now the show might be canceled and everyone is talking about it.
00:01:03.020 And no one seems to have noticed the most preposterous aspect of the whole drama.
00:01:08.240 Then a 2028 Democrat presidential candidate promises to prosecute Trump supporters,
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00:01:15.000 If the Democrats take back power, we will look at Project 2029, as they're calling it.
00:01:20.160 And President Trump gives the greatest one-liner in the history of press conferences
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00:01:28.640 I'm Michael Knowles.
00:01:29.240 This is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:01:29.960 Welcome back to the show.
00:01:50.200 A horrific story about a man who identifies as a woman and an infant.
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00:03:18.120 I have a lot of thoughts on The Bachelorette.
00:03:20.300 I learned all about this this morning.
00:03:22.860 When I woke up, I finished writing my show in the morning.
00:03:25.660 I want to make sure there's no news that broke at night.
00:03:27.760 And I turned to sweet little Alisa.
00:03:29.340 I say, hey, girl, what should I do my show on today?
00:03:31.900 He goes, Mac, the only thing anybody's talking about is The Bachelorette.
00:03:35.300 I said, well, I don't know anything.
00:03:36.760 I don't know that show's been on since the 1930s at this point.
00:03:40.340 It's been on forever, but I don't really know anything about it.
00:03:43.600 She gave me the skimmy. 0.81
00:03:45.040 And then I realized the craziest aspect of this whole controversy no one is even talking about.
00:03:51.940 So we'll get to it.
00:03:52.840 But first, before we get, we have so much to get to today.
00:03:55.580 Because for this Friend Friday, I want to bring on my friend and my congressman, Congressman Andy Ogles, who is typically making friends all across Washington, D.C., all across the various communities, especially that lean left.
00:04:13.460 My friend, Mr. Ogles has just called on the mosques in America to condemn the recent spate of terror attacks that we've seen.
00:04:24.900 Apparently, not one of these 3,000 mosques has come out and condemned them.
00:04:28.800 And he is proposing what critics are calling and supporters are calling a Muslim ban on immigration.
00:04:35.880 Here to explain himself, amid all the criticism, Andy Ogles.
00:04:41.480 Andy, thank you for being here.
00:04:42.660 Absolutely.
00:04:43.220 And thanks for having me.
00:04:44.420 You know, it's an important topic.
00:04:45.880 And it's one that we have to have.
00:04:47.900 I mean, all we have to do is look at Europe.
00:04:50.140 Look at London.
00:04:51.400 Look at Paris.
00:04:52.360 Look at Rome. 0.96
00:04:53.620 You know, the U.K. has become the rape capital of Europe. 0.85
00:04:56.740 Sweden is number two. 0.88
00:04:58.240 Why?
00:04:58.520 Because of the influx of migrants, primarily Muslim, coming from all over the world.
00:05:03.460 And now we're seeing it here in the United States.
00:05:05.720 So let's set the stage.
00:05:06.980 Like you said, in the last three weeks, we've had four terror attacks on U.S. soil.
00:05:12.260 We have the shooting in Virginia, the shooting in Texas, the car attack in Michigan, and then the attempted bomb throwings in New York.
00:05:20.800 We have roughly 3,000 mosques in the United States of America.
00:05:24.280 And not a single mosque to date has condemned the violence or disavowed the attackers.
00:05:31.120 So they want to claim to the religion of peace, but yet they're afraid to condemn violence.
00:05:36.820 And so my letter, an open letter on official letterhead, is to call on the mosques, to call on the imams, to stand by the rhetoric that you're a religion of peace and condemn the violence.
00:05:47.880 Say this is not acceptable in the United States.
00:05:50.460 Quite frankly, it's not acceptable globally.
00:05:52.720 And they need to disavow, disavow the attackers.
00:05:57.260 When you see the headlines about this, it's right-wing, hardliner, conservative Andy Ogles, you know, making this provocative statement.
00:06:06.780 Then I read your letter, and I was actually shocked.
00:06:09.960 First of all, we've become so used to these kinds of attacks.
00:06:13.560 That's right.
00:06:13.740 Even though they've been happening in recent weeks, I've covered them all on the show.
00:06:17.660 I had actually forgotten.
00:06:19.060 I said, oh, right, that's the one in Michigan and the one in Austin and the one in New York, of course.
00:06:24.360 And there are 3,000 mosques in this country.
00:06:27.680 We have seen Islam spreading and spreading, so much so that on the 25th anniversary of 9-11, you now have a Muslim mayor of New York who's celebrating all sorts of Muslim stuff, who's kind of dissing the Christians in New York, not showing up to the installation of the archbishop. 0.97
00:06:41.820 But we could go on and on about Mr. Mamdani and Mamdana's standard.
00:06:44.980 But obviously, Islam has spread. 0.99
00:06:47.860 Dearborn, Michigan now is basically part of the caliphate. 0.89
00:06:50.760 And of all the mosques in the country, not one of them has condemned these terror attacks. 0.71
00:06:58.020 I mean, this is what I'm learning from your letter.
00:06:59.720 And so I see the headline, and it says, you know, Andy Ogles is this radical.
00:07:03.600 I said, well, hold on.
00:07:04.100 Who's the real radical here?
00:07:05.620 The 3,000 mosques, not one of which will condemn the terror attacks in recent weeks?
00:07:09.840 Or the guy who's just pointing that out?
00:07:12.420 Well, I mean, think about it.
00:07:13.840 If a Christian, in the name of God, killed, you'd have pastors and churches all over the country say, no, no, no, no, not in our name.
00:07:24.960 We don't support that, right? 0.94
00:07:26.400 If you had someone of the Jewish community, the synagogues, right, they would come out in mass and say, no, no, no, we don't support that. 1.00
00:07:33.720 Hindus, Buddhists, they would do the same thing. 0.91
00:07:36.420 Why can't the Muslim community, why can't these mosques say, you know what?
00:07:41.040 This is not why we're here.
00:07:43.000 But I think the reality is, when you look at Europe, I mean, look, I've got some data points right here. 0.95
00:07:47.340 48% of crimes in Paris are committed by immigrants, most of them Muslim. 1.00
00:07:53.600 You look at London, 40% of sex crimes committed by migrants, most of them Muslim. 1.00
00:07:58.820 Rome, 83% of street robberies, migrants, most of them Muslim. 1.00
00:08:03.080 I mean, there's a pattern here that's developing in Europe.
00:08:05.520 And look, so we can put our heads in the sand and ignore the data.
00:08:09.600 And by the way, those data points, those aren't mine.
00:08:12.320 That's from the London Police Department.
00:08:14.160 That's from the French Interior Ministry.
00:08:16.120 That's from the Rome Police Department.
00:08:17.820 This is their data.
00:08:18.980 And I'm assuming that the data is sugar-coated, by the way.
00:08:21.420 But even if it's sugar-coated, it's damning.
00:08:25.080 And so I'm not going to stand by while Americans are being attacked.
00:08:29.320 And so I'll say this.
00:08:30.800 For all the noise they're making attacking me, the silence of the Muslim community and the silence of the mosques speaks louder than anything that I might say or put on social media. 1.00
00:08:42.520 Okay, now, beyond the letter, the other thing you're getting in trouble for right now is, according to the headlines, I don't know, I haven't read the bill, you want to ban Muslims from coming to America.
00:08:52.460 And this is a violation of the Establishment Clause and the First Amendment.
00:08:56.680 And it's downright un-American.
00:08:59.120 You know, there's nothing more American than halal street food and, you know, prayer calls five times a day.
00:09:04.900 Okay, so how are you, how could you, on this, the 250th anniversary of our country, how could you propose something so deeply un-American?
00:09:13.340 What do you mean, I want America to be American?
00:09:15.240 Wow, that's shocking.
00:09:16.220 But now, let's be serious.
00:09:18.520 So what we're focusing on are the countries that do not have proper vetting.
00:09:24.020 So, for example, yes, Syria, Iraq, those countries in that part of the world, but also in South and Central America, you have countries like Venezuela.
00:09:33.380 And so let's take a step back.
00:09:35.700 So we had Iran was funding and sending Hezbollah terrorists from their part of the world to Venezuela.
00:09:45.080 Venezuela was giving them fake IDs and then sending them to our southern border, where then those Hezbollah terrorists were claiming asylum in the United States. 0.92
00:09:54.940 And so this is the pipeline that we're seeing coming from the terrorists in the Middle East to South and Central America, coming to our southern border, claiming asylum.
00:10:04.240 And keep in mind, I'm chairman of the Cyber Subcommittee for Homeland Security.
00:10:08.200 I get briefings that most members of Congress don't get.
00:10:10.900 And what I can tell you is I'm utterly shocked that we haven't had a mass terror attack on U.S. soil right now.
00:10:16.400 I'm shocked that it hasn't happened, because we have terrorists, not just some run-of-the-mill, you know, I'm not going to say what I was going to say, but run-of-the-mill person.
00:10:26.900 These are soldiers.
00:10:28.720 These are trained terrorists that have come into this country under fake IDs, and we have no idea who or where they are.
00:10:37.440 This is why I have to do and be so bold.
00:10:41.140 And so for me to block a country like a Venezuela, like a Syria, like an Iraq that isn't vetting people who literally are emptying their prisons and sending terrorists our way, no, sir.
00:10:51.420 And again, I was on a media interview, and the journalist was, you know, trying to get me in a gotcha moment.
00:10:56.540 And she says, well, you know, the founding fathers and, you know, the originalists.
00:11:00.560 And I say, well, hold on.
00:11:02.220 Let's talk about that for a moment.
00:11:03.400 When they were talking about this, you know, freedom of religion, which religions were they speaking of?
00:11:10.760 Oh, and by the way, the first mosques, prayer rooms, actually, didn't appear in the United States until 1920.
00:11:17.060 Wait, hold on.
00:11:17.760 Andy, you're telling me that Thomas Jefferson wasn't a Shiite?
00:11:20.620 I'm totally shocked to hear this.
00:11:22.160 You're telling me that the framers of the Constitution were not debating, I don't know, Wahhabism or the Sunni-Shia split.
00:11:29.240 I totally agree.
00:11:30.400 You know, Barack Obama some years ago said that Islam has been a part of America since the very beginning, which is technically true because in the earliest days of our country, we fought the Barbary War.
00:11:43.400 That's right.
00:11:43.920 Because Muslims on the other side of the world were enslaving our sailors. 1.00
00:11:47.160 But yes, of course, you didn't have serious Muslim immigration to America until relatively recently. 0.97
00:11:52.140 So when I see the headlines, they say this radical right wing MAGA person, Andy Ogles, wants to ban the Muslims.
00:11:58.680 And then I look at what you're actually talking about.
00:12:01.640 Would anybody seriously object to curtailing migration from Syria, Iraq today, Venezuela, for that matter?
00:12:10.980 I mean, this is just common sense.
00:12:12.280 This is the sort of thing President Trump pushed in his first term.
00:12:15.460 And so when I read this, not only does it not seem radical, it seems common sense.
00:12:20.380 Hey, how about any of the 3,000 mosques condemn the Muslim terrorism that we've been seeing in spades? 0.98
00:12:25.960 Hey, how about countries that can barely even be called nation states at the moment?
00:12:29.740 How about we curtail immigration from them? 1.00
00:12:31.840 This is common sense.
00:12:32.900 It seems to me the radicals are the ones who would oppose it.
00:12:35.320 Well, you know, in reality is I'm simply doing – I took an oath to serve this country and, quite frankly, to protect this country.
00:12:42.920 I'm on financial services.
00:12:44.140 I'm on the National Security Subcommittee.
00:12:46.180 I'm on Homeland Security.
00:12:47.420 I'm one of the chairmen.
00:12:48.480 So I have a distinct role in protecting this nation from outside and, quite frankly, attacks from within.
00:12:55.000 And so we have to have this conversation because we see what's happening in Europe.
00:12:59.160 Again, we have real-time data.
00:13:01.060 And, you know, Europe is probably 10 years ahead of us as far as the migrant curve.
00:13:05.280 And so we have opportunity.
00:13:06.720 We have time to fix this and properly vet the people that are coming into this country. 1.00
00:13:11.620 But, look, if you lied on your naturalization form, you should be denaturalized and you should be deported.
00:13:17.360 If you came across any of our ports or our borders, et cetera, illegally, you should be deported.
00:13:22.600 This is our country.
00:13:24.660 We get to decide who comes in.
00:13:26.500 Are we even allowed to say that anymore?
00:13:28.820 This is our country?
00:13:29.620 I don't know that we are.
00:13:30.580 But, look, it's common sense.
00:13:31.920 I think the vast majority of Americans obviously agree with you on this.
00:13:35.340 And speaking of what the vast majority of Americans are talking about, Andy, I assume you don't have many public thoughts on The Bachelorette.
00:13:44.160 So I will mercifully let you off the hook before we get to that.
00:13:47.860 Thank you very much, though, for everything you're doing in Washington, D.C., for this district and for our country.
00:13:53.380 And most importantly, for coming on this show.
00:13:56.120 Absolutely.
00:13:56.640 Thank you so much.
00:13:57.320 Good to see you, sir.
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00:15:41.120 Folks, The Bachelorette.
00:15:43.620 The Bachelorette is going to be canceled, maybe, because the star of The Bachelorette, who was 0.99
00:15:54.640 formerly a Secret Lives of Mormon wife reality TV star, was now caught on camera two years ago.
00:16:05.460 I think I'm getting this right, two years ago, attacking one of her baby's daddy, it's like
00:16:11.800 attorneys general, some say baby daddies, but it's baby's daddy, with a chair in front of one of her
00:16:18.440 children.
00:16:19.000 Here's the video.
00:16:21.300 Yeah, yeah, look at you.
00:16:23.860 Look, look.
00:16:25.620 Yeah, look.
00:16:26.620 This is called physical abuse.
00:16:29.320 Yeah, see, Taylor, this is all you do.
00:16:39.060 It's the only thing you know how to do. 0.99
00:16:41.900 Holy s***. 0.98
00:16:44.040 Let me go. 0.99
00:16:47.260 Stop.
00:16:48.860 Dude, leave me alone. 1.00
00:16:51.500 Whoa.
00:16:52.720 That's crazy.
00:16:54.300 That's a metal stool.
00:16:55.520 Your daughter is right here.
00:16:57.800 Whoa, man.
00:16:58.540 All right, this is dark.
00:16:59.400 This is the first time I'm actually seeing this with audio.
00:17:01.000 All right, take this.
00:17:01.520 This is too dark.
00:17:03.280 I guess this is reality TV, so there's no surprise here, but they're going to cancel the show.
00:17:07.980 They're going to cancel The Bachelorette, because this woman, years ago, threw stools at her 1.00
00:17:14.480 husband, ex-husband, baby daddy, when she was on this other reality TV show called The Secret
00:17:21.920 Lives of Mormon Wives. 0.88
00:17:23.460 And the most absurd part of all of this, no one's talking about it.
00:17:31.540 She's not a bachelorette.
00:17:34.520 She's a divorcee. 1.00
00:17:36.660 Divorcees are not bachelorettes. 0.94
00:17:40.840 A bachelorette is a woman who is not married, who is about to be married. 0.97
00:17:46.980 This woman's married. 1.00
00:17:48.120 She's so married, she's divorced. 1.00
00:17:51.520 That would be like having a network TV show called The Teenager starring Joe Biden.
00:17:58.880 It's true.
00:17:59.880 At some point, Joe Biden was a teenager.
00:18:02.220 He is not a teenager anymore.
00:18:04.460 That's the most absurd part.
00:18:07.160 It's the cherry on top of the absurd sundae. 0.99
00:18:11.580 This is trash all the way down. 0.97
00:18:15.660 It's kind of funny that they're going to cancel a trashy reality TV show because the stars are 0.99
00:18:22.280 behaving in a trashy and degenerate way. 0.89
00:18:24.600 Anyway, that's not exactly a man bites dog story. 0.95
00:18:28.580 Isn't that what everybody signed up for?
00:18:31.220 That's the whole show.
00:18:32.320 Then on top of the absurdity that the star of The Bachelorette is not actually a bachelorette,
00:18:38.580 is this notion.
00:18:40.780 I was talking to Sweet Little Lisa about this.
00:18:42.140 I didn't know anything about it until six o'clock in the morning today.
00:18:46.200 And Sweet Little Lisa was pointing out that the premise of The Bachelorette starring this woman
00:18:50.840 is that 20 good-looking young men are lining up to win the hand of this psychotic woman 0.99
00:18:59.620 who is divorced, who has children from multiple other men, who is 31 years old.
00:19:05.760 And no knock on people who have lived a little bit of a rough life, kind of turned it around.
00:19:10.100 No knock on, listen, some of my best friends are 31-year-olds.
00:19:12.880 Okay, that's young now compared to me.
00:19:14.480 I'm an old man after my birthday.
00:19:16.140 But good-looking young guys are not lining up for that.
00:19:23.000 That is another layer of absurdity to all of this.
00:19:26.680 It's so out of whack.
00:19:28.820 It's so bizarre and grotesque.
00:19:31.500 And it was ever thus.
00:19:33.760 I remember when reality TV shows really kicked off in the 90s with Survivor.
00:19:41.260 That was the first real big one that launched the genre.
00:19:44.740 And it was just kind of a game show.
00:19:46.740 It's a game show where you got a little bit more intel on the personal lives of these people.
00:19:51.900 But over time, it's become more and more degenerate.
00:19:55.100 You had the Jersey Shore and all those shenanigans and the secret lives of Mormon wives. 1.00
00:20:00.880 I guess some of whom are not Mormon and some of whom are not wives.
00:20:03.340 Now you got The Bachelorette starring a divorcee. 0.77
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00:20:38.380 There's a porn for everything.
00:20:39.140 It's that way with any vice.
00:20:42.900 To some degree, it's the same way with any virtue.
00:20:45.560 When you start performing virtuous acts, especially when you're cooperating with God's grace,
00:20:51.640 you find it's easier to engage in virtuous acts.
00:20:56.220 It's easier and easier and easier.
00:20:57.560 But that's good.
00:20:58.080 That actually builds you up.
00:20:59.940 This thing is tearing you down.
00:21:01.300 So what's the answer to all of this?
00:21:02.600 We need a new Hays Code.
00:21:04.120 The Hays Code was the film industry.
00:21:07.080 This was 100 years ago now, a little under 100 years ago.
00:21:10.060 The film industry self-censoring. 0.69
00:21:11.640 In the 1920s, the film industry was full of disgusting, violent, obscene, pornographic, absurd filth. 0.96
00:21:20.060 And then a bunch of Catholics, it was actually Catholics who brought the Hays Code, 0.99
00:21:24.280 came into Hollywood and said, hey, no more of this stuff.
00:21:27.200 No more blasphemy.
00:21:28.280 No more porn. 0.99
00:21:29.180 No more creepy sex stuff. 0.99
00:21:30.700 No more gratuitous violence. 0.82
00:21:32.620 No more this.
00:21:33.320 No more that.
00:21:34.360 And they made the greatest movies ever made.
00:21:37.640 Actually, the greatest movies ever made, I guess with the exception of The Godfather and me,
00:21:41.900 myself, and Irene, were all made under the Hays Code.
00:21:45.740 And then eventually the Hays Code was weakened.
00:21:48.160 And even the principle of the Hays Code was carried over to television.
00:21:52.060 I love Lucy.
00:21:53.740 Lucy and Ricky couldn't sleep in the same bed.
00:21:55.820 And they had to dance around the fact that she was pregnant.
00:21:58.000 And you know what?
00:21:58.540 We were all better for it.
00:22:00.420 We need a Hays Code.
00:22:01.540 Let the bachelorette starring the divorcee with the baby's daddy and the domestic violence, 0.71
00:22:07.240 let that be the line in the sand.
00:22:09.640 Especially, I was speaking at the National Catholic Prayer Breakfast yesterday.
00:22:12.740 It was a lot of fun.
00:22:13.840 Then I did an event at the Heritage Foundation afterward.
00:22:16.620 You know, it was the Feast of St. Joseph.
00:22:18.640 It's great.
00:22:19.160 You know, we're talking about Catholic contributions to America.
00:22:21.300 But the Hays Code was a great Catholic contribution to America.
00:22:24.180 Time to bring it back.
00:22:26.040 Now, speaking of great TV,
00:22:28.140 President Trump just gave the finest one-liner in the history of press conferences going back to Pericles.
00:22:35.080 We will get to that.
00:22:36.320 It's from the Oval Office with the Japanese Prime Minister.
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00:23:53.160 President Trump sitting in the Oval with the Japanese Prime Minister, who seems to adore him.
00:23:57.880 When she gets out of the car, she runs up, gives him a big hug at the White House.
00:24:01.940 He showed her the Hall of Presidents on the White House little walkway there by the Rose Garden.
00:24:09.140 And the Biden picture is just an auto pen.
00:24:11.600 She seemed to get a huge kick out of it.
00:24:13.060 But Trump also got along famously with Shinzo Abe.
00:24:17.260 So that's something about Trump in Japan.
00:24:18.840 They get along great.
00:24:20.560 It's like white on rice, you know, to use an apt metaphor.
00:24:23.880 In any case, they're sitting in the Oval, and a reporter asks President Trump
00:24:28.300 why he did not tell everyone about the attack on Iran before he launched it. 0.84
00:24:34.700 Japan and U.S. are very good friends.
00:24:39.600 But one question, why didn't you tell U.S. allies in Europe and Asia, like Japan, about the war before attacking Iran?
00:24:49.760 So we are very confused about Japanese citizens.
00:24:53.540 Well, one thing, you don't want to signal too much.
00:24:56.280 You know, when we go in, we went in very hard, and we didn't tell anybody about it because we wanted surprise.
00:25:03.700 Who knows better about surprise than Japan?
00:25:06.700 Okay?
00:25:07.180 Hey, why didn't you tell me about Pearl Harbor?
00:25:10.140 Okay?
00:25:11.600 Right?
00:25:13.340 He's asking me.
00:25:15.140 Do you believe in surprise?
00:25:17.140 I think much more so than us.
00:25:20.060 Just magnificent.
00:25:21.440 I don't know how to frame a clip, but that's it.
00:25:24.800 No one will ever beat it.
00:25:25.940 I was sitting, I had dinner last night with Jeremy, actually.
00:25:30.720 We were out having dinner, took me out for my birthday, and we were just talking about how Trump is Elvis.
00:25:37.400 He's just, Trump is Elvis.
00:25:38.600 You know, Jeremy, he's criticized Trump a zillion times over the years.
00:25:42.020 He and I have gotten into it about Trump.
00:25:44.280 I was very pro-Trump, basically from the very beginning, and he was very anti-Trump.
00:25:48.140 But the thing that he agreed on, he even brought it up, he said, the guy is just, he's just amazing at this.
00:25:55.160 I mean, he's just, he's Elvis.
00:25:57.080 And so he's sitting there.
00:25:58.100 He gets the answer to the, he gets the question, why did you not tell people about the attack?
00:26:03.180 And he gives a serious answer.
00:26:05.520 He starts to say, well, you know, look, I didn't want a signal.
00:26:07.680 I don't want to.
00:26:08.320 And then that showbiz brain kicked in. 1.00
00:26:09.960 He goes, hey, who knows more about surprises than you guys?
00:26:14.920 Am I right?
00:26:15.700 At this point, he could have gotten up with a stool, lit a cigarette, spotlight on him like he's in a comedy club in New York.
00:26:21.340 Let me tell you about these guys, huh?
00:26:23.140 Yeah, we got some, some of our Japanese friends here.
00:26:26.740 Am I right?
00:26:27.400 You know, yeah, we got some Japanese here, huh?
00:26:33.740 Yeah, you guys know a little bit about surprises.
00:26:36.300 Why didn't you tell me about Pearl Harbor?
00:26:39.620 Just great.
00:26:42.220 Just a great bit.
00:26:43.120 I'm going to miss him very, very much after the fourth or fifth term, whatever. I don't know,
00:26:48.600 at a certain point, after he's 120 years old or something, probably life will take its course. But
00:26:54.760 I'm just sorry that we're only in the second term right now, or that we're already in the
00:26:59.240 second term. We've only got, what, two or three terms left. It's beautiful. And it's not just
00:27:03.440 funny. It is a serious point. The serious point he's making is that you don't telegraph your moves
00:27:10.100 when you are engaging in war, even when you're engaging in ordinary politics.
00:27:14.840 And he's conveying that very serious point with some humor, so people take note of this.
00:27:20.600 Antonin Scalia did this in his Supreme Court opinions and dissents. He talked about that.
00:27:26.220 He would use these funny words, applesauce. Did you ask the nearest hippie? These are lines from
00:27:31.700 Antonin Scalia's dissents in big cases. Why did he do it? He said, well, I do it because it grabs
00:27:37.060 people's attention. And it's kind of funny, and it's memorable. And that way, it's going to stick
00:27:41.120 in the minds of law students, and it's going to shape American jurisprudence. Same thing here.
00:27:45.380 Very, very funny and very, very smart. Okay. Now, speaking of the next presidential administration,
00:27:50.760 if Trump does leave in 2028, and we have a Democrat administration having forfend in 2029,
00:27:58.140 one of the contenders for that, J.B. Pritzker, the Illinois governor,
00:28:01.180 says that his answer to Project 2025 is Project 2029, which basically just means arresting Trump
00:28:08.940 supporters. What does a Project 2029 agenda look like for you?
00:28:16.920 I don't think you can speak of it in shorthand, but I'll just say a couple of things that I think
00:28:21.780 are absolutely necessary. One is we've got to restore the rule of law, and that means holding
00:28:27.380 people accountable, who've broken the law, and talking about in this administration, when we
00:28:32.440 get a new one, the people in this administration who've broken the law, and federal agents who've
00:28:38.040 broken the law need to be held accountable. And that means criminally prosecuted.
00:28:42.100 Criminally prosecuted, civilly prosecuted, whatever it is that we can do, right? It may be that you can't
00:28:47.820 criminally prosecute somebody, but that you can go after them civilly.
00:28:51.660 So Project 2025, the much talked about Project 2025, was essentially a personnel database,
00:29:03.740 just a spreadsheet of names of people who could staff an administration.
00:29:08.200 And the libs made hay about this, and they said Project 2025 is where they're going to round up
00:29:14.220 all the Democrats, ship them to the gulag, abolish the infield fly rule. I don't know, 0.57
00:29:19.240 they had all these ideas of what Project 2025 was. But really, it was just a way to make sure that
00:29:23.800 the administration could get going very quickly in 2025. Project 2029, ironically enough, is what
00:29:31.460 they said Project 2025 was. According to J.B. Pritzker, he's the one using this phrase. This isn't
00:29:38.640 some scare quote from the right. He says, yeah, I have this idea of Project 2029, where we're going
00:29:43.620 to arrest all of our enemies. We're going to round them up and prosecute them for political crimes.
00:29:47.320 That is, that is what the Democrats said Project 2025 was. You should totally hang this around
00:29:56.360 Pritzker's rhetorical neck if he actually does run for president. He is saying the quiet part out loud,
00:30:01.880 and he is acknowledging that every Democrat accusation is in fact a confession. Speaking
00:30:08.100 of Dems in 2028, Gavin Newsom's wife is making the rounds because of an old interview she did with
00:30:13.900 my friend Alex Michelson on his old show in Los Angeles. Newsom's wife is, according to all the
00:30:23.340 commentary about this, really harming her husband's presidential ambitions because she talks about 0.89
00:30:30.000 how woke she is. She's supporting LGBT priorities like gay marriage, this, that, or the other thing.
00:30:37.420 But I actually don't really think that is the case. Do we have the clip of Gavin Newsom's wife?
00:30:45.100 There's so much to learn from same-sex couples who have learned to communicate and who also are like,
00:30:49.700 well, look, you know, someone's got to do the care work in a same-sex male couple. Someone's got to do 0.98
00:30:54.800 that, so I'm just going to do it. And this is like, and not be afraid or ashamed because it's part of
00:30:59.380 being human. We're all on a spectrum, right? It's just how society kind of pushes us and pressures us
00:31:06.420 into these limiting gender roles. But again, the folks on the far right, they're missing is just this, 0.93
00:31:13.840 they're living in this silo, this evangelical conservative silo that ultimately is, it's just
00:31:21.100 pulling us back as a country to a time and a place where we don't deserve to be, and we're not going to be,
00:31:27.600 because honestly, young women and fathers of daughters are awake now and they're woke and
00:31:33.640 they're not going to let us go back. And so I have so much hope because of that. And obviously,
00:31:38.060 California has a huge responsibility to lead. So some conservatives are posting this clip
00:31:42.520 around and saying, see, Gavin Newsom's so radical, this woman has no place in the White House, 1.00
00:31:47.800 she's an ideological radical, or they're saying she's dumb or she's this or she's that. 1.00
00:31:52.500 They think this is a gotcha on Newsom. I have totally the opposite reaction. 0.99
00:31:58.260 Yes, this clip is from two or three years ago, back when woke was really popular and she says
00:32:02.840 all the popular things and she's like, oh, I like gay stuff and kids are woke now and we just need 0.64
00:32:08.400 to be better as a country. And it all sounds ridiculous. But I actually find the clip endearing. 0.99
00:32:15.260 This woman clearly does not have any deeply held beliefs. I don't think Gavin Newsom has
00:32:19.220 particularly deeply held beliefs. He's Patrick Bateman, he's a sociopath. 0.98
00:32:24.000 I would be surprised if this woman has any serious thoughts really at all, 1.00
00:32:29.620 which means that in many ways, she is a traditional first lady.
00:32:35.520 I actually think the more you see that clip, the more endearing you find her.
00:32:40.000 This ain't Hillary, okay? This woman is not going to be put in charge of healthcare. 1.00
00:32:44.460 She's just a lady doing an interview because her husband's a politician. She says,
00:32:47.780 I just like nice stuff and I just want us all to get along. And the kids are the future. That's
00:32:56.040 essentially what she's saying. I wouldn't use that. Once again, the Newsoms are bad news. 0.93
00:33:06.300 They've destroyed California. They would destroy the country. They're pretty slippery though.
00:33:11.460 I would not, that's not the gotcha folks. Same thing when they say, you know, Gavin Newsom,
00:33:17.560 he's so good looking and slick. And that's not a great gotcha either. You got to focus on
00:33:22.680 the consequences of his policies. So much more to get to. I'm actually kind of happy that we've run
00:33:28.600 out of time. And we're not going to talk about this awful story about a trans identifying guy 0.97
00:33:34.220 who had a horrible encounter with a child. And it's always the ones you most expect.
00:33:40.720 Maybe we'll get to the political import of that story on Monday. But for right now,
00:33:47.080 I'm very pleased to say we are getting to my favorite time of the week.
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00:35:14.940 Hi, Mr. Knowles. This is Shay's art. I'm a big fan of your show, even the gay little intro. I never 1.00
00:35:21.120 skip it. I'm a Protestant, but I'd like to thank you for introducing me to the TLM. I've been attending
00:35:26.640 it for about two years now. Here's the situation I need help with. I'm dating this cute American
00:35:32.000 Italian girl that we plan on getting married in about a year. She's a Christian who believes in 0.98
00:35:36.680 traditional family values, dresses modestly, goes to church regularly, doesn't drink or do drugs,
00:35:41.360 and thinks the divorce should only be considered in situations involving infidelity and abuse.
00:35:46.640 When I asked her to come to the TLM with me, she immediately said yes, and she later even
00:35:50.960 invited me to her own church. So, long story short, she's a diamond in the rough, especially
00:35:56.140 since we're in New York. Now, even though she's Catholic and I'm Protestant, and we both
00:36:00.600 grew up in completely different cultures, we're talking East and West here, our values and opinions
00:36:05.200 on important subjects align. We even agree on how to raise our kids. So now we're discussing
00:36:10.320 everything else that could come up once we start living together after getting married.
00:36:14.460 What are some topics that we should get concrete answers on, especially given the cultural differences?
00:36:19.740 Once again, thank you so much.
00:36:21.920 Okay, well, it sounds like it's really working out pretty well for you. It seems like you got
00:36:28.240 it all together. Sometimes I get these questions where it's just immediately clear these two people
00:36:34.860 should not get married or they'll have a very difficult life for themselves. But here, you seem
00:36:38.960 like you're in a good position. The first thing, very practically, that you're going to have to get
00:36:42.880 straight is that to get married, if she's a Catholic and you're at least nominally a Protestant,
00:36:50.100 even though you're going to the traditional Latin mass. So it sounds like you guys are pretty close on
00:36:53.300 that too. But one thing you will have to do, because it would technically be an interfaith marriage,
00:36:57.900 if she's Catholic, you would have to get a dispensation from the bishop, which would be easy enough.
00:37:01.260 But you would have to agree to raise the kids Catholic. Again, that doesn't really seem like a
00:37:05.460 problem for you guys because you're going to the traditional Latin mass and you're bringing her. 1.00
00:37:10.380 And so anyway, I assume over time you'll be trending very much in the same direction on that
00:37:15.880 question. Then the other thing to get straight is just whether you're going to play by the rules or not.
00:37:24.220 And this is kind of an all or nothing thing. In a lot of modern marriages, they want to make it up 0.96
00:37:30.360 as they go. When they're talking about finances, when they're talking about personal behavior,
00:37:33.940 when they're talking about kids, how many kids they want, whether or not they even want to have
00:37:37.020 kids, it's all make it up as you go. The traditional view though is great. Highly recommend 10 out of 10
00:37:44.900 because the rules are all there for you and they work. That's why they're the rules. That's why they've
00:37:49.580 become the way that we do it over time and what's prescribed in the Bible. And so that means, okay,
00:37:55.320 is the husband the head of the household? Great. That means you're one flesh. You're not going to get 1.00
00:38:00.220 divorced really under any circumstances, though there's more to that discussion, I guess.
00:38:06.400 Yeah. Great. Okay. Wonderful. You have shared finances. Great. What are your priorities? What
00:38:12.060 kind of house do you want to live in? Where do you want to live? How are you going to determine if you
00:38:15.640 have to move? Are you going to follow the husband's career? Is the wife going to continue to work a job 0.99
00:38:20.140 outside the home? Are you going to, is the wife going to work a job for a little while, then quit the job? 0.97
00:38:24.300 And these are real practical things, but the crux of the matter is, are you going to play by the
00:38:29.520 rules or are you going to make it up as you go along? And I think, you know, my recommendation.
00:38:33.920 Next one. Hello, Michael. I love your show. I don't miss a day. Usually I love to hee hee Tuesday.
00:38:43.480 Anywho, I am wondering about what your family does for Easter and Lent. You guys have young kids,
00:38:50.640 we have young kids. We just started watching the Ten Commandments during Holy Week. It's not
00:38:56.680 really an Easter movie, but it takes a whole week to watch and it's an excellent movie. So I'm just
00:39:02.940 wondering what other kinds of things you do to get your family ready for Easter. Thank you.
00:39:08.680 Often we will go see my grandmother. My grandmother, who's not 93 years young, I think.
00:39:15.260 Maybe 93 or not. This is somewhere around there. And a lot of my family lives down by
00:39:20.540 her. So that's always a lot of fun. Last year, though, we got an invite to the White House Easter
00:39:24.880 egg roll because the Republicans are back in town. I thought, oh, this would be a really cool
00:39:28.180 experience for my kids. And so anyway, we go up there and then, you know, I don't know, maybe if
00:39:34.020 we go again, that'd be a lot of fun. But we go and my middle son, who at the time was two, I guess.
00:39:40.800 Yeah, it was two years. I think he was two at that point. He didn't really care about the White 0.90
00:39:46.420 House. He didn't really know what it was. He didn't really understand who the president is,
00:39:49.840 but he didn't even care about rolling the eggs or eating the candy. All he cared about was that he
00:39:55.140 saw the guy in the bunny suit walking around the lawn and all he wanted all day, hey, buddy,
00:40:00.000 you want to do this? You want to do that? And he said, no, no, I want to go see the bunny.
00:40:04.180 I take him up. I want to see the bunny. And it was like he was meeting Elvis. It was like he was
00:40:07.660 meeting the president. He was so excited to meet the bunny. And then afterward, anytime I'd go to
00:40:12.100 Washington, D.C., or maybe if I were in D.C., if I were going to go visit the White House,
00:40:16.420 say, hey, buddy, I'm going to go visit the White House tomorrow, middle of the year. He said,
00:40:19.520 oh, yeah, Dada? Are you going to go see the bunny? So in his mind, the Easter bunny lives at the
00:40:24.980 White House. Anyway, I hope that we can take him again to go see the bunny. Next question.
00:40:31.240 Hey, Michael, this is Jacob. This is Jacob. Stop it. I have a question.
00:40:36.880 So dating a woman of Latina descent, you know her destiny. When she gets mad, she likes to punch me 1.00
00:40:46.060 and hit me. And as a man, am I allowed to strike back and defend myself? Or do I just need to take
00:40:54.400 it? Please let me know. Bro, I don't. Whatever you guys do, whatever you're into, whatever this is,
00:41:04.820 I don't want to be involved in this. Whatever little thing you guys have here, whatever thrill,
00:41:13.640 we're not, I'm not, leave me out of this. I don't want to be, this is getting weird. I don't need to
00:41:22.280 think about, I don't need to hear about this. I don't, whatever, whatever you do, keep it to the
00:41:26.740 confines of the Camaro. All right. And I, no, next question.
00:41:33.320 Hi, Michael, Gabriele from Italy. I've subscribed to you Daily Wire, mainly for your show and Pope
00:41:38.920 and the Fuhrer. Great documentary. Everyone should go and see that. I know you have not read much
00:41:44.500 fiction. Andrew Clayton says that conservatives should, and we should own it. I would say particularly
00:41:49.680 with fantasy, which has now become kind of gay and perverted, but it started, let's not forget, 0.82
00:41:55.740 with C.S. Lewis and Tolkien doesn't get any more conservative than that. I'd like to give you three 0.75
00:42:03.840 quotes from science fiction, the space trilogy by C.S. Lewis, in particular, the last book of the
00:42:10.200 trilogy. And you'll see they don't lack any philosophical meaning. Actually, they have a lot of it.
00:42:17.420 And I would like to hear your thoughts about this. And if you haven't read it, then it'll prove as proof
00:42:25.340 of the importance of fiction. The quotes are this one. Yes, we must all be guarded by equal rights from
00:42:31.620 one another's greed because we are fallen. Equality guards life. It doesn't make it. It is medicine,
00:42:37.640 not food. No one has ever told you that obedience, humility is an erotic necessity. You're putting equality
00:42:44.160 just rethought not to be. So this is talking about marriage. And lastly, it is ideal to point out to
00:42:49.660 the perverted man the aura of his perversion. While the fierce feet is on, the aura is the very spice
00:42:55.300 of his craving. It is ugliness itself that becomes, in the end, the goal of his lechery. Beauty has long
00:43:01.520 since grown too weak a stimulant. Thoughts?
00:43:04.140 Wow, that's really good. It's profound stuff coming from Italy. I love that. I don't read a lot
00:43:13.220 of fiction anyway, but I don't read a lot of fantasy, even though I know I should because
00:43:17.540 Tolkien and Lewis are great. But that bit there at the end is so beautiful that it's ugliness itself
00:43:23.760 that becomes the object of the pervert's lechery. Because beauty has long since lost its attraction
00:43:31.660 as a stimulant. In other words, beauty is too delicate. It's too light. It's light. The angels
00:43:42.060 can fly because they can take themselves lightly. But for the pervert, it's not that he could not
00:43:49.260 respond to beauty in any world. It's that he's chosen through his disobedience to just blow out 0.89
00:43:55.920 his dopamine receptors such that beauty doesn't really do it for him anymore. It's got to get
00:44:01.920 grotesque. It has to be perverse. It's ugliness itself that he seeks because of the absurdity.
00:44:09.440 You see this, obviously, especially in the sexual ideologies and behaviors, but you see this with all
00:44:15.100 of the sins. You see this, when one turns even a virtue to an extreme to the point that it becomes
00:44:24.280 a vice, over time, it's actually the ugliness that gives one a thrill. That's what makes it
00:44:32.140 perverse. It's a great point. And if one could just tone it back, hopefully give your, I don't know,
00:44:37.740 to use the modern physical biological images that seem to resonate with people, if you just give
00:44:43.460 your brain a little bit of time, those dopamine receptors to, I don't know, restore themselves,
00:44:50.780 then you can come to appreciate the beauty again. And you will find the ugliness no longer
00:44:57.040 attractive, but actually repellent. Good point. Grazie, grazie mille, Gabriele. Okay, the rest of
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