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00:00:30.720 An international incident breaks out when the top bishop in Jerusalem is barred from the Church of

00:00:36.240 the Holy Sepulcher to kick off Holy Week. Then Jimmy Kimmel attacks President Trump

00:00:41.180 by mocking blue collar workers. It's a bold strategy for the Democrats. We'll see how it

00:00:46.780 plays out. And finally, oh boy, this one, this is a tasty one. You know, you have become accustomed

00:00:56.640 over many years to how much I hate to say I told you so, the vice president has acknowledged that

00:01:03.660 UFOs are most likely demons. So, you know, we'll get to it. Happy Holy Week. I'm Michael Knowles.

00:01:10.820 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

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00:03:33.540 The vice president just appeared on Benny Johnson's show. Benny hit him with the real

00:03:40.280 questions. I mean that. Some people are making fun of this question from Benny. I love this question.

00:03:46.100 He said, why don't you talk about taxes or Iran or whatever? Yeah, it's a long interview. He talks

00:03:50.000 about a lot of stuff, but this is the one I want to hear about. Benny Johnson asks the vice

00:03:55.140 president of the United States, who I will remind you is extremely intelligent, extremely well

00:04:01.240 educated, extremely normal guy, one of the most powerful men in the country, heartbeat away from

00:04:07.380 the presidency. He asks him about the true nature of UFOs. Matt Walsh and I both just clenching our

00:04:15.800 fists, gritting our teeth, waiting for the answer. Who's going to be right? Is it going to be Walsh

00:04:21.140 who says that there is such a thing as E.T., little weird green aliens flying around the

00:04:26.320 universe? Or is it going to be your boy? Is it going to be Michael who says that there's no

00:04:32.280 such thing as E.T. and actually the UFOs are more likely demons? Mr. Vice President, I defer to you.

00:04:40.580 You're going to release all the UFO files. We're working on it. It's funny. When I came in,

00:04:44.920 I was obsessed with the UFO files. And then you start getting really busy worrying about the

00:04:49.380 economy and national security and things like that. But I've still, I've still got three more

00:04:52.680 years as vice president. I will get to the bottom of the UFO files. Okay. Have you peaked? Have you

00:04:56.820 done a peek? Have I what? Have you done a peek? I mean, like, you know, so I actually haven't,

00:05:01.520 I have not, I have, I have, I have not been able to spend enough time on this to really understand

00:05:08.620 it, but I am going to trust me. I'm obsessed with this. I've already had a couple of times

00:05:13.460 where I'm like, all right, we're going to Area 51.

00:05:15.620 We're going out to New Mexico.

00:05:16.940 We're going to sort of get to the bottom of this.

00:05:18.620 And then the timing of the trip just didn't work out.

00:05:20.680 But trust me, anybody who's curious about this,

00:05:23.620 I'm more curious than anybody.

00:05:25.140 And I've got three years of the very tippy top

00:05:28.140 of the classification.

00:05:29.760 I'm going to get to the bottom of it.

00:05:31.120 Okay, so you haven't been to Area 51 yet.

00:05:33.100 Not yet.

00:05:33.260 Some people say they keep the UFOs in Ohio.

00:05:35.380 Yeah, Hangar 18, Hangar 18, right?

00:05:38.360 I've heard that as well, but I don't know.

00:05:40.940 I haven't looked into it yet.

00:05:41.880 Okay, all right, all right.

00:05:43.100 well we're waiting for it we saw aliens we saw aliens.gov i don't think they're i don't think

00:05:47.140 they're aliens i think they're demons anyway but that's a longer discussion well i can't let you go

00:05:51.420 should i just end the show right now like forever should i just can we i has anyone ever been more

00:05:59.380 vindicated then i hate no look i hate to say i told you so so i i won't belabor the point but

00:06:04.800 all joking aside this guy gets it we we joke about it it's a little funny running joke at

00:06:12.140 the Daily Wire. Walsh is really into aliens. I think aliens are totally fake. And then we talk

00:06:17.660 about what these things could be. Are people having hallucinations? Are there alien craft

00:06:22.820 that are alien, meaning from China, like illegal aliens or alien nations? Is this military equipment

00:06:30.080 from our own military? Or is there something spiritual going on? And beyond all the jokes,

00:06:36.780 I do think that there is such a thing as spiritual reality. I do think that there's

00:06:41.800 such a thing as immaterial reality. Virtually everyone for all of history everywhere has

00:06:47.000 agreed with that. And so the vice president, beyond a little bit of joking,

00:06:51.040 Benny presses him and he explains what he means. Well, look, I think that celestial beings

00:06:58.420 who fly around, who do weird things to people, I think that the desire to describe everything

00:07:08.320 celestial everything is otherworldly to describe it as aliens i mean every great world religion

00:07:14.520 including christianity the one that i believe in has has understood that there are weird things

00:07:20.460 out there and there are things that are very difficult to explain and i i naturally go when

00:07:25.420 i hear about sort of extra natural phenomenon that's where i go to is the christian understanding

00:07:31.520 that you know there's a lot of good out there but there's also some evil out there and i think that

00:07:35.880 one of the devil's great tricks is to convince people he never existed.

00:07:39.880 Love this. So people are going to try to say that Vance is being kooky or weird or dumb or 0.96

00:07:45.940 something by suggesting that there's such a thing as demons and angels. But what does he do at the

00:07:51.520 very end there? He's quoting Baudelaire. Baudelaire, who says the finest trick of the devil is to

00:07:56.180 persuade people that he doesn't exist, which has been reiterated in all sorts of different

00:08:01.620 popular media over the years. What Vance is saying is that there is such a thing as spiritual

00:08:07.160 reality, immaterial reality, which we all know. Actually, that's not true. A lot of people don't

00:08:12.540 know that because they just haven't thought deeply enough about it. But anyone who has two brain

00:08:16.720 cells to rub together and who has thought about this question knows that there is such a thing

00:08:20.280 as spiritual reality. There's such a thing as immaterial reality at the very least. For instance,

00:08:25.140 are intellects or mathematics or, I don't know, universals, the concept of justice.

00:08:31.240 Need I go on? We would be here forever. There are physical things. It's like my tumbler here,

00:08:36.960 my microphone, my delicious cigars. But there are immaterial things as well.

00:08:40.720 And we, in part, have an immaterial aspect because we have an intellect which can receive

00:08:47.600 universals, immaterial substances. So that's just a fact. And the reality is that unless

00:08:54.120 the aircraft that people are seeing are from China or DARPA or something like that,

00:08:59.100 the odds that they are demons or angels are much greater than the odds that these are ET,

00:09:05.260 just because of distances. The distances between stars and galaxies are simply too great,

00:09:09.340 and there are limitations to the physical world, like the speed of light.

00:09:12.660 The odds are great. And really, not to put too fine a point on it, but just to conclude,

00:09:17.900 this interview from Vance reminds me of one of my favorite interviews from any politician.

00:09:24.120 It was Scalia back in 2013, where Scalia, I've mentioned it on the show many times.

00:09:29.340 Scalia was doing an interview with New York Magazine, some lib, know-nothing reporter.

00:09:33.420 And she was asking him something about hell or punishment.

00:09:38.340 And she said, you believe in hell?

00:09:39.840 And he said, yeah.

00:09:41.320 He goes, well, it must be awful scary to believe in hell.

00:09:44.180 And Scalia says, you're looking at me like I'm weird.

00:09:48.660 He says, in a theatrical whisper, he says, you know, I even believe in the devil.

00:09:53.040 She says, boy, oh boy, howdy, you know, that must be spooky.

00:09:56.700 And he says, you know, you're condescending to me right now,

00:09:59.380 and you're looking at me like I'm weird.

00:10:00.960 Do you realize how out of touch you are with most Americans?

00:10:03.720 Do you realize how out of touch you are with virtually every intelligent person

00:10:07.580 through all of history, virtually every person through all of history,

00:10:10.100 all of whom have believed in the devil?

00:10:12.220 Then he says the killer line,

00:10:14.380 which should be applied to anyone who's criticizing J.D. Vance over this.

00:10:18.940 He says, many more intelligent people than you or I have believed in the devil.

00:10:25.900 J.D. Vance believes in demons.

00:10:27.580 Let me tell you something.

00:10:28.760 Many more intelligent people than you or I or J.D. Vance, for that matter, have believed in demons.

00:10:37.160 Absolutely right.

00:10:38.640 And the alien thing is just simply bunk.

00:10:41.360 Sorry, it is.

00:10:42.180 Okay, speaking of religion, major international incident yesterday.

00:10:46.120 got everybody chattering on the brink of Holy Week. The headline that caused truly a global

00:10:54.800 uproar is that the government of Israel prohibited the top bishop in Jerusalem,

00:11:00.800 Cardinal Pete Zabala, he's the Latin patriarch of Jerusalem, from entering the church of the

00:11:05.660 Holy Sepulchre on Palm Sunday. Palm Sunday is the day when Christ enters as a king into Jerusalem.

00:11:11.620 It kicks off the beginning of Holy Week, which will end with the crucifixion on Good Friday, followed by Holy Saturday, and obviously followed by the resurrection on Easter Sunday.

00:11:23.940 Major outcry that this was a Christian persecution by the Israeli government.

00:11:28.600 Then you had ardently, I won't even just say regular pro-Israel people, but ardently, zealously, perhaps unreasonably pro-Israel people who were attacking the cardinal.

00:11:39.520 It was a whole mess.

00:11:41.320 We will get to exactly what happened.

00:11:43.080 Because the funny story about this is everyone involved was much more reasonable than any of the cheerleaders or critics online were.

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00:12:59.620 So we're in Holy Week right now.

00:13:01.600 This is the Monday of Holy Week.

00:13:02.960 Yesterday was Palm Sunday.

00:13:04.660 It's a three-hour liturgy and the traditional liturgy.

00:13:07.840 It's a really big deal.

00:13:09.220 And Cardinal Pizzaballa, who was a man who being considered for pope at the last conclave,

00:13:15.320 Cardinal Pizzaballa, who's the Latin patriarch of Jerusalem,

00:13:18.240 he has one of the most difficult jobs in the world.

00:13:22.160 He went to hold a private mass at the Church of the Holy Sepulchre,

00:13:26.960 which is where Jesus was entombed.

00:13:28.920 And he didn't bring a ton of people with him.

00:13:31.700 this was not a major public event, but he was going there with a small number of people to

00:13:35.840 say private mass to continue the very longstanding tradition of a mass on Palm Sunday.

00:13:43.300 He recognized that sometimes there are security precautions, be they for public health,

00:13:49.460 be they because of times of war. But this was a small number of people, and the Israeli police

00:13:55.000 told him no. And they turned the Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem away from Jesus's tomb on the first 0.78

00:14:02.360 day of Holy Week. So right off the bat, it should be said, I totally understand the Israeli

00:14:09.980 government's security concerns. I get it. I appreciate it. I also recognize that the Israeli

00:14:16.280 government closed down all the holy sites. So it wasn't particularly anti-Christian discrimination.

00:14:22.680 They closed down other holy sites too.

00:14:25.220 I understand and acknowledge all of that.

00:14:29.560 That government has no right whatsoever to ban the Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem from the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.

00:14:37.280 Ever, on any occasion, much less Palm Sunday.

00:14:41.980 This was an egregious fumble by the Israeli government.

00:14:47.040 And everybody agreed with that.

00:14:49.240 Everybody agreed.

00:14:50.000 This was not just people who don't like Israel.

00:14:53.020 This was not just Catholics.

00:14:55.000 This was not Mike Huckabee, who is as pro-Israel as any human being has ever been, including Theodore Herzl.

00:15:03.420 Okay, Mike Huckabee loves Israel, not Catholic, is a Southern Baptist.

00:15:09.520 He issues this statement.

00:15:11.060 He's obviously the U.S. ambassador to Israel.

00:15:13.120 He says, while all holy sites in the old city are closed due to safety concerns for mass gatherings, including the Western Wall, Church of the Holy Sepulchre, and Al-Aqsa Mosque, the action today by the Israel National Police to deny Latin Patriarch Cardinal Pierre Battista Pizzaballa and three other priests from entering the church to offer a blessing on Palm Sunday is an unfortunate overreach, already having major repercussions around the world.

00:15:35.880 Homefront command guidelines restrict any gatherings to 50 people or less.

00:15:38.780 The four representatives of the Catholic Church were well below that restriction.

00:15:42.080 Statements from the government of Israel indicate the action to prohibit Cardinal

00:15:45.000 Pizzaballa entry to the church of the Holy Sepulchre were for safety reasons,

00:15:48.800 but churches, synagogues, and mosques throughout Jerusalem have met with the restrictions of 50 or

00:15:53.260 less. For the patriarch to be barred from entry to the church on Palm Sunday for a private ceremony

00:15:57.820 is difficult to understand or justify. Israel has indicated it will work with the patriarch

00:16:03.020 to accommodate a safe means of carrying out Holy Week activities. Okay. Mike Huckabee is a really

00:16:09.300 nice guy. And he's very, very pro-Israel and he's very diplomatic. This is as tough a statement as

00:16:15.980 you are ever going to get, saying the Israeli government just blew it here, followed up by

00:16:23.340 the most pro-Israel person in the United States Senate. Self-defined that way. My friend,

00:16:31.940 Senator Ted Cruz, also not Catholic, he's a Southern Baptist, comes out, he says,

00:16:36.080 Ambassador Huckabee is correct. This was a mistake by the Israeli police. The security concerns are

00:16:40.760 real, but they should not have prevented the patriarch from entering the Church of the Holy

00:16:44.200 Sepulcher to conduct the Palm Sunday blessing. I trust this mistake will be corrected quickly.

00:16:49.480 Beyond just these two American politicians, do you know who else agrees with me and Huckabee

00:16:58.500 and Cruz and the Latin patriarch and Catholics around the world, Christians around the world,

00:17:04.720 the heads of state around the world. Do you know who else agrees? Benjamin Netanyahu.

00:17:11.040 And Isaac Herzog. So you had the president of Israel and the prime minister of Israel

00:17:15.840 coming out successively throughout the day and saying, hey, yeah, we blew it. Here's the comment

00:17:23.180 from Netanyahu, who's the most powerful guy in Israel. I have instructed the relevant authorities

00:17:27.260 that Cardinal Pier Batista Pizzabala, the Latin patriarch, be granted full and immediate access

00:17:31.240 to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.

00:17:32.680 Over the past few days,

00:17:33.900 Iran has repeatedly targeted the holy sites

00:17:35.620 of all three monotheistic religions in Jerusalem

00:17:37.480 with ballistic missiles.

00:17:39.080 In one strike, missile fragments crashed meters

00:17:41.100 from the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.

00:17:42.320 That's true.

00:17:43.060 To protect worshipers,

00:17:44.020 Israel asked members of all faiths

00:17:45.180 to temporarily abstain from worshiping at the holy sites.

00:17:47.880 Today, out of special concern for his safety,

00:17:49.540 Cardinal Pizzabala was asked to refrain from holding mass.

00:17:51.740 Even though I understand this concern,

00:17:53.120 as soon as I learned about the incident

00:17:54.440 with Cardinal Pizzabala,

00:17:55.800 I instructed the authorities to enable the patriarch

00:17:57.580 to hold services as he wishes.

00:17:59.600 Okay.

00:18:01.240 Good. I'm glad. Huge mistake. We don't know how high the mistake went up. Some people are saying,

00:18:07.260 oh, it was just a rogue cop who didn't know what he was doing. Some were saying it was

00:18:11.080 more of a decision from the Israeli government proper. Some are saying that Cardinal Pizzaballa

00:18:18.260 had been notified the day before, which makes this much, much worse because it means that this was a

00:18:22.480 premeditated decision by the Israeli government, which is a huge error. Some say that wasn't

00:18:26.680 Now, who knows? Fog of war, when it comes to the Middle East, Israel, and the surrounding region,

00:18:31.920 it's just propaganda all around. But you know, what I do know, is that the cardinal,

00:18:39.040 the patriarch, came out and made this extremely diplomatic and conciliatory statement.

00:18:51.000 It's true, there were these orders from the command.

00:18:56.680 Yeah, and so they were prohibiting it from the places of worship that didn't have a bomb shelter.

00:19:06.660 But we didn't request a public celebration, just a small private ceremony.

00:19:13.100 To keep up the tradition of the whole temple.

00:19:14.420 It's too bad that this happened.

00:19:32.140 But I don't want to force the hand.

00:19:38.020 We can use the situation

00:19:39.620 to figure out how to make clearer

00:19:43.380 that we need to respect security concerns, but also the right to prayer.

00:19:46.600 Okay, a beautiful response.

00:19:48.700 And so what I notice about this incident, which dominated the headlines yesterday,

00:19:52.780 everybody was talking about it, is that the actual people involved

00:19:56.560 were much more reasonable than the partisans who are just propagandists online.

00:20:04.860 This was, there is no question whatsoever,

00:20:08.180 this was a major error by the government of Israel.

00:20:11.860 Everyone agrees with that.

00:20:14.060 Huckabee, Cruz, the Catholic Church, Netanyahu, and Herzog themselves.

00:20:19.520 Everybody agrees. 0.98

00:20:20.480 If you disagree with that, you are a kook. 1.00

00:20:22.860 You are just not worth listening to. 0.99

00:20:26.060 Not to put too fine a point on it.

00:20:28.640 But when the Israeli government, the Catholic Church, the evangelicals, and the American government all agree on something,

00:20:35.640 and you're on the opposite side of that, I don't know.

00:20:38.380 That is not a real opinion.

00:20:39.680 That is not a serious opinion.

00:20:41.280 So you all agree an error occurred.

00:20:43.760 And then what happened?

00:20:45.380 The prime minister of Israel said, yeah, shouldn't have happened.

00:20:47.960 We're letting him back into the Holy Sepulcher. 0.99

00:20:50.100 And then the patriarch says, yeah, this shouldn't have happened.

00:20:53.280 It's unfortunate, but this can be a good opportunity to figure out how to balance

00:20:57.300 security with the right to prayer.

00:20:58.980 I don't want to push the issue.

00:21:00.120 I don't want to force anyone's hand.

00:21:01.860 Good.

00:21:02.220 All's well that ends well.

00:21:03.360 Good.

00:21:03.660 This is the way it should be.

00:21:05.800 A nice response.

00:21:07.120 I mean, some people, my favorite thing about this whole incident, looking at the silver lining in

00:21:13.340 the storm cloud, is it really showed who just the most rank propagandists are. Because some people

00:21:18.820 came out, they started attacking Pizzabala. They started attacking this cardinal. This cardinal,

00:21:23.460 they called him a terrorist sympathizer. I mean, just ridiculous nonsense. This is a great man. 0.99

00:21:28.780 Just to give you one example, during the Gaza war, this man offered himself in exchange for

00:21:34.300 the Israeli hostages. He offered himself to Hamas in exchange for the release of the Israeli

00:21:39.040 hostages. You're going to call this man a Hamas sympathizer, a terrorist. It's outrageous. This

00:21:45.100 is a wonderful holy man. He's a great prince of the church. Likewise, some people are saying that

00:21:50.120 the Israelis are just really trying to get at the Christians here. Once again, how would that 0.99

00:21:54.620 benefit the Israelis? How would it benefit the Israelis when their whole nation is existentially 0.99

00:22:01.560 dependent upon the support of Christians, especially in America. How would it benefit 0.99

00:22:05.440 the Israelis to just really stick it to the Christians? It doesn't make sense. They might 1.00

00:22:09.240 have been a little bit high-handed here, and they might have misunderstood their rights when it

00:22:12.560 comes to prohibiting the patriarch from the Holy Sepulcher. But to suggest that this was some,

00:22:17.160 I don't know, broad-sided attack on Christians, I think is really overstating it.

00:22:22.760 It was an unfortunate incident. I'm glad that people have been brought back into line. They

00:22:27.520 all recognize the right balance here. And if the patriarch and the prime minister of Israel

00:22:33.660 and the American government can all be gracious about it, I think everyone else can too.

00:22:38.620 Speaking of Christianity, also on Palm Sunday, a horrific incident that doesn't get a lot of play.

00:22:46.060 I've talked about this issue a lot on my show, but in Nigeria, another 10 Christians, at least, 0.73

00:22:51.480 maybe more, were martyred by Muslims in Nigeria. We'll get to that momentarily. First, I want to 1.00

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00:24:14.240 region of Nigeria, more Muslims have been killed. Sorry, more Christians have been 1.00

00:24:20.380 killed by Muslims. Here's a video from on the ground. 1.00

00:24:24.800 In Kabul, you just murdered over 10 people. Innocent Christians. On Palm Sunday.

00:24:33.460 Tanubu, where are you? As your people are slaughtered in the night,

00:24:39.060 as you sit in Aso Rock and you do absolutely nothing, you allow your people to be killed.

00:24:44.240 Again and again and again and again.

00:24:47.220 When will it stop?

00:24:48.640 When will you hear the cries of Nigerians, of Christians?

00:24:52.040 You can no longer deny genocide.

00:24:54.680 They're being slaughtered.

00:24:57.460 And you say there's no issue.

00:25:00.360 You will regret what you are doing.

00:25:05.880 So I've met, actually, I forget where I was flying out to last time.

00:25:10.660 but I ran into a missionary who's done a lot of work in Nigeria. We've obviously talked about

00:25:15.980 the Nigeria issue a lot on the show, but the Muslims have been persecuting the Christians 1.00

00:25:20.400 in Nigeria to an extreme of savagery that most people can't even comprehend. And it happened 0.97

00:25:25.780 again on Palm Sunday. And it's a reminder that Christianity is a religion spread by the martyrs.

00:25:32.980 We say that the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church. It's why cardinals wear red slippers. 0.67

00:25:37.000 They wear red slippers because they're walking in the footsteps of the martyrs.

00:25:41.160 And it remains the case that by the numbers, Christianity remains the most persecuted

00:25:47.260 religion in the world. And usually that's by Muslims. And that's been true for 1400 years. 1.00

00:25:53.460 And people don't really pay attention. Of course, there's a lot of focus on religious issues in

00:26:01.380 America because that's domestic. There's a lot of focus on religious issues in Europe,

00:26:05.560 even, where Muslims have burned down churches and things like that, shut down Christmas markets.

00:26:11.000 There's always a religious focus in the Holy Land. Obviously, it's a pretty particular case.

00:26:15.560 But Africa, we kind of forget about. Some of the Christian persecution in East Asia,

00:26:18.920 we kind of forget about. Nevertheless, it's a reminder, this stuff is very real.

00:26:24.600 And there's a point for all of us, even not thinking across the world, which is,

00:26:30.120 I don't know if any of you have noticed this. I alluded to this point a little bit last week.

00:26:35.560 things get a little tougher during Lent, I've noticed. I've just noticed that.

00:26:42.260 Things get a little more stressful. Temptations become a little more tempting.

00:26:47.220 Things get a little tough during Lent. Isn't that weird? Lent is this period of time when

00:26:51.440 Christians are to walk with Christ like the 40 days in the wilderness and then leading up to

00:26:56.560 his passion. And I've just noticed that things get a little wacky. So people without faith are 1.00

00:27:03.960 going to look at me, even some people with faith, they're going to look at me and say,

00:27:06.000 well, that's just nuts, Michael. You're just imagining things, whatever. But something that

00:27:10.580 a lot of people, a lot of religious people notice, for me, this was a big part of my

00:27:15.600 reversion to the faith, is that it's all real. Part of numinous experience, religious experience,

00:27:23.860 is encountering the reality of God, the imminent reality of God. Oh, it's real.

00:27:30.720 These aren't just stories that have archetypes, that are metaphors, that tell us something about

00:27:36.940 the human experience. It's not just that. It's real. God is real, and he's very, very close to

00:27:43.940 you. Jesus Christ is a real person. He was born of a virgin and lived in a time and a place and

00:27:52.080 was crucified under Pontius Pilate, suffered death and was buried. He descended into hell

00:27:56.000 and rose again on the third day in accordance with the scriptures. It happened. And then real

00:27:59.920 guys went out and spread the religion all over the world. That all actually happened. And so

00:28:04.200 if you believe that, if you believe that even, let's just say at the most basic level,

00:28:09.740 you acknowledge that there is such a thing as God, that that is real, then why would it not

00:28:16.280 be the case that there are different seasons, that there are different spiritual realities?

00:28:21.080 I mean, I guess bringing us all the way back to what we were talking about with

00:28:23.080 J.D. Vance saying, look, I think the UFOs are demons, but that's a story for another time.

00:28:27.420 if you acknowledge that there's such a thing as immaterial substances and spiritual realities.

00:28:32.840 And why wouldn't it be the case that things get tougher during Lent?

00:28:36.880 Maybe that's not just an hallucination or an illusion.

00:28:40.740 Maybe that helps you to make sense of the world because it's real.

00:28:44.940 Now, speaking, I actually want to jump down on a story because this makes the point, drives it so home.

00:28:52.540 You know, Perez Hilton, Perez Hilton, the gossip columnist.

00:28:55.420 He was really big like 15 years ago or so.

00:28:58.580 He's a kind of tabloid gossip columnist.

00:29:00.860 Perez Hilton just got into some serious medical trouble.

00:29:04.820 I guess he had the flu.

00:29:06.540 Started out as just the flu, but then he started taking medicines on an empty stomach,

00:29:11.520 which caused a tear in his stomach, which then caused him to go into sepsis.

00:29:17.320 I guess he could have died.

00:29:18.860 And Perez Hilton is now claiming that he had a direct experience of God.

00:29:23.360 And he's telling everyone on TikTok.

00:29:26.080 God presented himself to me.

00:29:29.160 And not a feeling. It was not a feeling. It was real.

00:29:33.360 God presented himself to me in the hospital and then did something.

00:29:39.460 Did something that I could only describe as miraculous.

00:29:44.600 And I was very lucid.

00:29:47.560 And ever since then, I've had such a connection to God.

00:29:50.860 And I've been praying and praying every day.

00:29:54.100 and I know that I'm alive and I'm home

00:29:58.520 and I'm better every day because of God.

00:30:02.400 So I'm so thankful

00:30:04.040 and I'm so thankful that people are watching right now.

00:30:10.220 I was saying earlier,

00:30:12.120 I thought going live might be a mistake,

00:30:15.120 but thank you for showing up for me.

00:30:19.480 All right, let's see who we can go live with.

00:30:22.280 i'm gonna try not to cry some people don't believe him they don't believe him because

00:30:29.940 perez hilton i'm not telling any tales out of school this is all very public perez hilton is

00:30:34.680 a gay guy he's an openly gay guy and has openly you know acquired children through surrogacy and 0.67

00:30:42.720 all sorts of things that people are are saying are uh to put it diplomatically contrary to church

00:30:48.880 teaching. And they say, so I don't think this is real. I don't come to that conclusion at all.

00:30:56.040 On the contrary, on the contrary, the fact that Perez Hilton has had a little bit of a colorful

00:31:01.860 life, he's kind of a gossipy columnist, journalist type, and all the personal stuff.

00:31:07.860 The fact that that is all true, and he is claiming this direct experience of God,

00:31:13.980 actually makes even more sense to me. In as much as I don't think, as many modern people do,

00:31:23.140 that God is just some projection of our own minds or our desires.

00:31:27.700 And I don't think that God is constrained by us. And I don't think he can be comprehended

00:31:33.880 ultimately by us. Of course, just in his very nature, he's God. If he can be comprehended by

00:31:37.720 you, he's not God, then you're God. He's real. He's a real person. Actually, he's three distinct

00:31:46.280 persons in one divine unity. Good luck fully comprehending that. But he really intervenes

00:31:54.360 in people's lives, God. He actually does that. And it doesn't always have to fit your plan or

00:32:00.200 what you would imagine or what you would expect, but he really does that. And listening to, I've

00:32:04.780 had Perez Hilton on this show many years ago, listening to him in that video, he doesn't sound

00:32:09.500 crazy. That's the amazing thing about people who have had real religious experience is they don't

00:32:14.960 sound crazy. They sound more normal than ordinary people. This is something I've noticed even

00:32:20.440 talking to exorcists. I had Father Rehill on this show, which got 10 bazillion views and people

00:32:25.720 still watch it. The funny thing about talking to an exorcist, this is someone involved in

00:32:31.920 about as mystical a profession as you can possibly imagine, is the exorcists actually,

00:32:39.880 it's kind of like talking to a plumber or an electrician. In many ways, the exorcists sound

00:32:45.140 more normal and grounded speaking about what they do than certainly the most white-collar workers

00:32:50.180 are speaking about what they do. I'm a project, I'm a assistant project manager working on

00:32:57.140 how to create synergy between different departments in a store, in a business that

00:33:03.580 optimizes consulting firms' abilities to implement data analytics in storefronts.

00:33:13.060 What is that? What? That's the most abstract thing I ever heard in my life.

00:33:17.880 You talk to an exorcist, he says, yeah, I cast demons out of people. I chop demons off people,

00:33:24.420 you know, basically is what I do. It's from God. I'm merely an instrument of this,

00:33:29.300 but that's what I do. It's like talking to an exterminator. Hey, what do you, oh,

00:33:32.720 I kill cockroaches. An electrician, what do you do? I fix wiring. Oh, okay. It's very, 0.99

00:33:40.240 and this, I've noticed this with people who have had mystical experience.

00:33:44.480 They're pretty placid. They're pretty, they're pretty grounded. They're pretty peaceful. They

00:33:48.780 sound really normal. That's kind of what I'm getting out of Perez Hilton here. I don't know,

00:33:52.820 again, I don't really know him all that well personally. He says he's obviously emotional

00:33:57.040 about this. The guy almost died, but he says, yeah, I saw God. And what does that mean? Well,

00:34:02.240 it means that he is real. We should remember that. People are scandalized by particularity

00:34:06.700 because we think that everything has to just be some dumb, abstract, generalized idea. That's 0.97

00:34:11.900 one of the temptations of modernity. But no, God's like a real guy. In fact, we know what he looks

00:34:18.720 like, because he walked the earth. And he tells us to do things and not to do other things,

00:34:25.300 and we should probably listen. And how can it be that God is so particular? Yeah,

00:34:31.320 that's a real stumbling block, isn't that, to some people who want to comprehend God and yet

00:34:35.220 ultimately cannot. Now, speaking of religion, religious differences, we have a lot of Somalis

00:34:43.800 in Minnesota. And the Democrats there are doubling down on mass migration and their

00:34:50.540 support of an alien culture. We'll get to that momentarily first, though. Transgenderism,

00:34:55.000 racism, sexism. These are just a few of the isms that we've covered in the latest episode of Yes

00:34:58.520 or No with comedian Jeff Dye. Check out this teaser. Can you believe we were just pantsing

00:35:03.300 people? Yeah. You'd wait for your friend who trusts you to be like holding a tray of food

00:35:09.820 or something, and then you would just pants him. 0.96

00:35:11.620 If he told on you, you'd act incredulous.

00:35:13.700 Like, oh, God.

00:35:15.320 Here we go.

00:35:16.000 All we did was pull his pants and underwear down,

00:35:19.380 and now he told on us? 1.00

00:35:22.020 We're going to have to beat the shit out of that guy. 0.98

00:35:35.640 I'm not saying that Jeff Dye is my favorite guest 0.99

00:35:38.400 I've ever had on Yes or No.

00:35:39.820 but I'm not saying he's not.

00:35:41.720 We can watch a full episode right now

00:35:42.820 on the Michael Knowles YouTube channel

00:35:43.760 for the uncensored ad-free version.

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00:35:46.960 If you're a Daily Wire Plus member,

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00:35:54.400 There is a lot coming this week.

00:35:55.500 You will not want to miss it.

00:35:56.880 On Wednesday, I will be at the NASA launch

00:35:59.700 covering the Artemis mission with guests

00:36:01.860 and a live Q&A during the launch window.

00:36:03.780 Thursday, we've got our exclusive Passion of the Christ Roundtable

00:36:06.360 with Matt Walsh, Isabel Brown, and me.

00:36:08.660 If you're not a member yet,

00:36:09.620 now's the time. Go to dailywire.com slash subscribe today. My favorite comment yesterday

00:36:15.480 is from Hard Boiled Entertainment. It says, the big question about the gay hockey team issue. Oh,

00:36:20.000 yeah. The Nashville Predators celebrated Pride Day in March. Not even, it's bad enough they do 1.00

00:36:26.720 it in June, which is the pride month now. But they did it in March. They were so excited. I don't 0.99

00:36:32.420 want to call the hockey guys gay because hockey is a pretty straight sport. But I don't know,

00:36:36.280 the executives of the NHL and the Nashville team.

00:36:39.440 I don't know, whatever it is.

00:36:40.380 They, a little bit lavender out there.

00:36:42.860 So anyway, they say the real,

00:36:44.400 the real question is,

00:36:46.040 will this mean fewer brawls in the middle of the game

00:36:49.380 or more or more?

00:36:51.120 I don't know.

00:36:51.460 That's a good question.

00:36:53.360 Tim Walz took to the no Kings protests.

00:36:58.240 No Kings to say that the Democrats,

00:37:03.420 look, they can really relate to the ordinary American.

00:37:06.280 All right, we don't want these kings in D.C.

00:37:09.200 What we're going to do instead is ignore immigration law, flood the country with Somalis 1.00

00:37:14.140 who defraud them and steal all their money, and there's nothing the ordinary American 0.58

00:37:18.360 can do about it.

00:37:20.760 And I will add a special, a special thank you and a special acknowledgement that we

00:37:28.700 will never leave the side of our Somali Minnesotans.

00:37:32.800 here's our pledge to you our somali minnesotans your great grandchildren will still be here 0.97

00:37:44.020 when that orange clown is in the dustbin of history you will be here 1.00

00:37:50.240 so you know tim wallace is a knucklehead and he usually says things that are totally ridiculous 1.00

00:37:57.860 and you would just say he doesn't know what he's talking about. 0.99

00:38:01.760 I hate to say it.

00:38:03.640 What he's just said here is objectively true.

00:38:06.820 He said, my message to the Somalis is that their grandchildren will be here long after

00:38:13.780 President Trump is gone.

00:38:16.760 Yeah, that's true.

00:38:18.840 That's 99% likely to be true.

00:38:21.780 That's the real problem of mass migration.

00:38:25.100 It's why Democrats are so eager for it. 0.60

00:38:27.860 When you import a bunch of foreigners, that helps Democrats because the Democrats campaign on weakening the United States and bringing in lots of different people. 1.00

00:38:38.920 It's no knock even on the particular people necessarily, but when you bring in lots of different people, that just weakens social solidarity, weakens the country.

00:38:45.620 And the Democrats campaign on that pretty explicitly, and they benefit from that.

00:38:50.580 So Democrats can either persuade people to vote for them, which they sometimes do to some degree, but they're not very good at it.

00:38:57.560 And if you look at just ordinary native-born Americans in most places in the country, Democrats don't play very well with them.

00:39:04.920 So they say, okay, well, we're going to change the demographics of the country.

00:39:08.420 So when you look at recent immigrants or new immigrants or what, they do a lot better among them.

00:39:14.960 And the thing is, when you run a campaign and you persuade a stable electorate of native-born Americans in one election,

00:39:23.020 there's a decent chance that the other party is going to persuade him in the next election.

00:39:27.540 And there's some stability even as the pendulum swings. When you just import new voters,

00:39:35.160 that changes the demographics in perpetuity. And even if some of those immigrant groups

00:39:40.920 do kind of come over over time, I mean, the Italians did this very well. The Italians split 0.96

00:39:46.160 almost perfectly. So you got the Scalia's, but you got the Pelosi's too. You look at an Italian, 1.00

00:39:50.040 and you can't really tell who they vote for. Other immigrant groups, that's not true.

00:39:54.240 The vast majority of Latin American immigrants just vote Democrat. There's some exceptions. 0.85

00:39:58.960 We love our Cubans. Our Colombians are pretty gettable for the conservatives. But generally, 0.99

00:40:05.100 that's how it goes. You track it, and it's not just them. Obviously, most immigrants now come 0.97

00:40:09.180 from Latin America, but you can track it with the other immigrant groups too. So you just can kind

00:40:13.340 of tell, and that's what the Democrats are after. They say, look, Trump, he won at least two

00:40:18.560 elections. That's unfortunate. But the Somalis are going to be here. Their grandkids are going

00:40:22.600 to be here long after Trump is gone. That's true. That's the urgency of the immigration question.

00:40:28.160 Also at a No Kings protest, Maisie Hirono, the Democrat senator from Hawaii, one of my absolute

00:40:33.380 favorite characters out of the US Senate. Maisie Hirono made an accidental admission 0.93

00:40:39.400 about No Kings. Maisie Hirono comes out. She tweets, Donald Trump is not, never will be,

00:40:48.560 and has never been a king. Hashtag no kings.

00:40:54.800 Did you catch the flaw in her argument? I mean, it's not, I guess it's just really an admission,

00:41:03.080 but I thought when you use the hashtag no kings, the implication for the whole no kings protest

00:41:08.100 is that Trump is a king. He has made himself into a king. He will further entrench himself

00:41:13.600 as a king. We don't like Trump. We don't want kings. We're going to kick him out.

00:41:17.300 And so Maisie Hirono, she says, yeah, guys, yeah, we don't want any kings here.

00:41:23.620 And so Donald Trump is not, never will be, and never has been a king.

00:41:28.360 So the whole protest is completely pointless.

00:41:33.280 Great.

00:41:34.200 Maisie, I agree with you.

00:41:36.240 This is weird.

00:41:36.980 I'm agreeing with Tim Walz.

00:41:38.940 I'm agreeing with Maisie Hirono.

00:41:42.300 I agree with AOC.

00:41:44.680 hey, AOC, you know, I agreed with AOC the other day too. AOC was coming at, she said, you know,

00:41:49.440 I don't like the pervasive move to legalize gambling. I think that's probably bad. And I

00:41:57.520 agree with her on that point. It's a controversial point, but I agree with her. Well, I agree with

00:42:01.280 her on something else now. AOC just came out and addressing the problems caused by AI.

00:42:07.180 she said that she does not use artificial intelligence chat gbt grok to write

00:42:14.540 so um so you know i i don't think those efforts are working on behalf of the administration

00:42:22.680 as far as ai i i do not regularly integrate it into my daily life um but i know many people do

00:42:31.580 I think our job tends to be a little bit more, for me, my job, a lot of my job is quite writing-based, and I like to do my own.

00:42:41.280 We know.

00:42:43.420 Can I just say, we know that you do your own writing.

00:42:48.420 And in most, I would say in 99% of cases, I think people should not use AI for writing.

00:42:54.860 Because one, the AI writing is simply not good, and you can tell when someone uses AI to compose something.

00:43:00.440 but two it renders you incapable of coherent thoughts because to write well is to think

00:43:06.520 clearly which is why it's so hard and so in 99% of cases I tell people don't use AI to write

00:43:11.480 when it comes to AOC maybe let's just cut our losses and turn to chat GPT it would be my

00:43:18.100 suggestion when she comes out there she goes listen I um like so um like for me I just when I

00:43:24.360 when I write, when I do the I letters, words and letters I put together in a, on a paper or

00:43:32.600 screen and I don't, GBT, no, I know, use, no. I do me, I do me. Me. Say, yeah, yes, I know.

00:43:46.120 I can, I know that. And this is one exception. You should, AOC should use chat GBT.

00:43:51.300 I give you permission as, as someone with a great interest in language, someone who's written a

00:43:58.880 number one national bestselling book about language and speech called Speechless, highly

00:44:03.340 recommend you pick it up wherever, where's my bell? Is there no, wow, they're falling, the guys are

00:44:07.260 falling asleep in the control room today. Anyway, with whatever authority I have on the subject,

00:44:12.440 AOC, you have permission, you should use ChatTBT. Before we go, Jimmy Kimmel has just

00:44:20.920 just gone a little bit viral. I think he just kind of stepped in it. We're talking about egregious

00:44:25.000 missteps, bad communications today. Well, this was pretty bad communications. Jimmy Kimmel comes out

00:44:29.560 and mocks President Trump's new Secretary of Homeland Security, former senator, now confirmed

00:44:36.160 as the DHS Secretary, Mark Wayne Mullen. And he makes fun of him specifically for his background

00:44:42.640 in blue-collar work.

00:44:45.180 Rudy Giuliani might not be with us much longer,

00:44:49.040 but don't worry,

00:44:51.120 Trump's got a whole new generation of thinkers lined up,

00:44:54.480 including his newly confirmed

00:44:56.060 Secretary of Homeland Security,

00:44:58.400 Mark Wayne, Chuck Mike, Bruce Dave Mullen.

00:45:02.400 Maybe Mullen's better.

00:45:03.800 He is the now former senator of Oklahoma.

00:45:06.800 Before he was elected to the Senate,

00:45:08.820 Mark Wayne Mullen was a low-level MMA fighter

00:45:11.860 and a plumber. That's right.

00:45:13.840 We have a plumber protecting us

00:45:16.000 from terrorism now.

00:45:18.180 Oh, it worked for Super Mario. Why not

00:45:19.960 Mark Wayne? But honestly,

00:45:22.400 I mean,

00:45:23.220 if Trump is going to keep picking these

00:45:26.020 unqualified people to run

00:45:28.000 the department, why not have more

00:45:29.800 fun with it? I mean, next time, instead of

00:45:31.920 Mark Wayne, how about Little Wayne

00:45:34.100 for Homeland Security?

00:45:36.100 At least we can get a concert out of it, right?

00:45:38.660 Mullen is replacing Christy

00:45:39.980 gnome who was ousted three weeks ago and will never be seen again. Ah, you get it? We got this

00:45:47.320 dumb plumber. We got this dumb, stupid idiot plumber is running a government agency. Why? 1.00

00:45:53.380 He didn't even go to a fancy college. Well, actually, that's not totally fair. Mark Wayne

00:45:58.180 Mullen did go to college and then he dropped out of college because his father became gravely ill

00:46:03.560 and he had to go run the family business.

00:46:07.100 So Mark Wayne Mullen,

00:46:08.340 he does the thing that a lot of people do in America.

00:46:12.520 He goes, starts going to college.

00:46:13.480 And then he was so responsible

00:46:15.540 and so caring for his family and so mature

00:46:19.440 that he actually left,

00:46:21.060 sacrificed some of his personal ambition

00:46:22.580 to go run a business.

00:46:26.180 By the way,

00:46:27.640 someone who has run a successful plumbing business

00:46:30.320 is more qualified to run a government agency, will do a better job running a government agency

00:46:36.000 than probably, at least, I'm being generous here, 87% of the staffers and politicians in D.C.

00:46:45.180 Why, he didn't even go to Williams College. He doesn't even have a law degree from NYU or

00:46:56.680 whatever. Yeah, you're right. He ran a business and took care of his family and was a successful

00:47:02.820 United States Senator and is now the Secretary of Homeland Security. Why? He's never even told

00:47:09.280 jokes on television, says Jimmy Kimmel. Yeah, you're right. This is your pitch? The big

00:47:15.400 Democrats' pitch, as Trump is supposedly losing all sorts of support. The Democrats' pitch is

00:47:21.720 look at president trump he surrounds himself with so many of these dirty poor people 1.00

00:47:26.780 it's like can you guys just shut up and clean my toilet 0.99

00:47:30.120 we need to go out there and win the votes of the people 1.00

00:47:33.920 i don't want to hear from you you disgusting filthy plumber you blue collar worker 1.00

00:47:38.340 you keep your you you look down at the floor when you come into my house 1.00

00:47:42.420 i don't you know i'm a working class hero i won't have you looking at me you insolent little twerp 0.98

00:47:49.660 go fix my plumbing. 0.74

00:47:52.200 Not a good look.

00:47:53.080 Not a good look.

00:47:53.740 Not a good message.

00:47:55.140 It's not true.

00:47:56.740 It's not even true.

00:47:58.080 I would certainly trust a guy

00:47:59.780 who ran a plumbing business

00:48:00.760 over most politicians

00:48:02.720 when it comes to actually getting

00:48:04.100 an agency to function.

00:48:06.220 But it's also just a terrible look.

00:48:08.480 Really bad communications all around.

00:48:10.500 Things go a little wacky during Lent.

00:48:11.780 Okay, before we go,

00:48:13.620 in the latest episode of Be a Man With Me,

00:48:15.200 Pavel faces one of his dirtiest challenges yet

00:48:17.200 when he embeds with a hardworking cattle farmer.

00:48:19.300 Yes, to pregnancy check cattle, gross, clean grain bins, and even harvest corn.

00:48:23.960 Here's this teaser.

00:48:29.260 Hi, my name is Pavel.

00:48:31.600 Be a man with me and do some PG-13 content.

00:48:36.380 This is a long, long love.

00:48:43.140 I love Pavel so much.

00:48:46.120 And even beyond that, I love this show.

00:48:48.220 I just love it.

00:48:49.060 I was very much encouraging him to make this show.

00:48:52.000 The episode, I would say,

00:48:52.960 really highlights the importance of our farmers.

00:48:55.440 Go check it out.

00:48:56.320 Check out the full episode

00:48:57.120 on the Be A Man With Me YouTube channel

00:48:59.020 and on Daily Wire Plus.

00:49:02.600 Folks, the producers tell me

00:49:03.600 it's not Music Monday today,

00:49:04.580 it's Movie Monday.

00:49:05.400 The rest of the show continues now.

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The Michael Knowles Show - March 30, 2026

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