The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1943 - NBA Player CUT For Criticizing LGBTQ Pride Propaganda

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00:00:14.720 The Chicago Bulls fire player Jaden Ivey for not being sufficiently gay in the run-up to

00:00:20.800 Pride Month.

00:00:21.740 The Daily Mail stokes conspiracy theories about the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

00:00:25.300 And Eric Trump debuts his father's future presidential library, which totally mogs that brutalist trash that Obama built in Chicago and which, at a deeper level, tells us about the souls of the two presidents.

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00:02:41.820 For the first time in 30 years, I am paying attention to the NBA.

00:02:47.120 I don't care about the NBA.

00:02:48.420 I thought the Chicago Bulls, actually, also back then the Chicago Bulls, I thought they were cool in the 90s because everyone did.

00:02:55.900 Michael Jordan and Latrell Sprewell, Dennis Rodman.

00:02:59.480 Actually, Dennis Rodman probably would have been okay for Pride Month, but this guy is not.

00:03:04.340 Jaden Ivey. Jaden Ivey is a basketball player. That's basically all I know about him.

00:03:10.780 But beyond the basketball court, I know that he holds Christian views of sexual ethics.

00:03:18.420 The world can proclaim LGBTQ, right?

00:03:24.940 They have, they have, they proclaim Pride Month and the NBA.

00:03:30.900 They proclaim it.

00:03:33.560 They show it to the world.

00:03:36.720 They say, come, come, come join us for Pride, for Pride Month.

00:03:43.340 To celebrate unrighteousness.

00:03:46.260 They proclaim it.

00:03:48.420 They proclaim it on the billboards.

00:03:51.400 They proclaim it in the streets.

00:03:54.420 Unrighteousness.

00:03:56.080 So how is it that one can't speak righteousness?

00:03:59.600 How is it one that, how are they to say that, man, this man is crazy?

00:04:09.820 Okay, so he just says that in his view, gay stuff is not righteous.

00:04:18.420 For that, this guy was fired from the Chicago Bulls.

00:04:23.160 Mind you, even a semi-Orthodox view of every major world religion, Christianity, Judaism, Islam, on and on and on,

00:04:40.260 holds that homosexual acts are not allowed, that it's unrighteous.

00:04:46.160 In fact, some of his language here was pretty mild by comparison to, say, scripture, right?

00:04:52.100 Jews and Christians reading the Old Testament view these acts as an abomination.

00:04:57.640 He didn't even say abomination.

00:04:58.620 He just said, look, it's not righteous.

00:05:00.120 And you're seeing all this weird stuff on the billboards and it's no good.

00:05:04.220 And for that, the Chicago Bulls fired him.

00:05:07.840 According to the Bulls statement, there is a certain level of expectations and standards that are here.

00:05:13.400 That's Coach Billy Donovan.

00:05:15.360 We have people from all walks of life working in the building and players from all different walks of life.

00:05:20.820 So the first thing is that everyone comes with their own personal experiences, right?

00:05:25.320 But we have to all be professional.

00:05:27.280 There has to be a high level of respect for one another, and we've got to help each other and be accountable toward those standards.

00:05:32.560 Now, hold on.

00:05:32.880 I just have to correct this guy for a second.

00:05:34.260 He said we have people from all walks of life and working in the building, players from all walks of life.

00:05:40.780 That's not true.

00:05:41.740 Because if a player comes out and expresses his religious views of sexual ethics, if he's a practicing Christian or Jew or Muslim, as I said, he's not welcome there.

00:05:54.360 So the Bulls have liberals, and they have sexual revolutionaries, and they have hardcore leftists, and in fairness, they have conservatives and Christians and Jews and Muslims, maybe, in principle, as long as they shut up.

00:06:10.880 as long as they don't say what they believe.

00:06:12.840 But if they do say what they believe, they're going to be axed.

00:06:14.940 They're not welcome.

00:06:17.000 He concludes, from ownership, Jerry and Michael Reinsdorf, down to the front office,

00:06:20.820 Executive Vice President Arturas Karnasovas and General Manager Mark Eversley,

00:06:25.320 me as a coach and even to the players, there's a certain standard we all want to live by.

00:06:28.440 We're all responsible for that standard.

00:06:29.960 So what is this?

00:06:31.040 This is effectively a blasphemy law.

00:06:33.520 That's the point to take home.

00:06:35.700 It's not a blasphemy law in that this bulls player isn't cursing God.

00:06:42.380 He isn't saying anything truly sacrilegious.

00:06:45.040 He's cursing the false gods of liberalism.

00:06:48.140 The gods of weird sex stuff and maximizing individual autonomy

00:06:51.540 and the gods of never publicly proclaiming you're Christian or, I guess, Jewish or Muslim faith.

00:07:00.760 That's it. That's effectively a blasphemy law.

00:07:02.700 This guy was fired because he was too outspokenly Christian.

00:07:08.440 That's it.

00:07:09.080 Now, that should be illegal.

00:07:11.740 By the letter of the law, I guess that is illegal.

00:07:14.880 And yet, it happens all the time.

00:07:17.820 And his firing further infringes on the civil rights of,

00:07:22.980 I don't want to keep repeating the three monotheistic religions,

00:07:26.260 but I would say anyone who holds anything even resembling traditional sexual ethics.

00:07:31.100 it further infringes on their rights

00:07:33.420 because it's a signal. Hey, you could

00:07:35.520 lose your job, and the government's not going to do

00:07:37.440 anything to stop it.

00:07:40.220 That's how it goes.

00:07:42.140 So,

00:07:43.060 the point for all of us is

00:07:45.600 to recognize,

00:07:47.400 and this is an issue that I actually wrote a whole book about called

00:07:49.460 Speechless Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, which you can get wherever

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00:07:53.220 The debate, I know we're in

00:07:55.400 LA right now, the ding is going to be a little

00:07:57.360 delayed. Look, I'm being very forgiving

00:07:59.460 today in the spirit of charity, it's Holy Week. The debate that we think we're having, that a lot

00:08:06.180 on the right thought we were having between free speech and censorship, that's fake. We are going

00:08:11.520 to live in some religiously informed country. The question is, what God are we going to worship?

00:08:19.180 We have the liturgical calendar. We have the pride month, multiple months. We have the secular

00:08:23.920 saints. We have the liturgies of liberalism. We have all this stuff. And it doesn't just affect

00:08:30.780 the right-wing conservative at a liberal college. It doesn't just affect, you know, your outspoken

00:08:38.480 MAGA uncle at his job where he just couldn't keep his mouth shut. This is affecting the NBA.

00:08:45.580 Look, I find it offensive when people come out and say we should trans little kids.

00:08:48.920 I find it offensive when people say we should kill babies. I think people probably should

00:08:52.580 lose their jobs if they support killing babies. But we don't insist upon that. We have a great

00:08:58.580 degree of toleration for this kind of stuff. And maybe we shouldn't. Maybe we shouldn't. Maybe

00:09:02.080 our liberalism, we on the right, maybe our liberalism has allowed the left to clamp down

00:09:09.800 so strongly on these standards. I'm in LA right now, I just mentioned. Just a few days ago,

00:09:16.240 someone tagged on a wall with graffiti, kill your local ICE agent. Big letters. People were

00:09:23.000 filming him as he did it. This was during the No Kings rally. Kill your local ICE agent. You know

00:09:28.380 what's going to happen to that person? Nothing. Nothing's going to happen to that guy. He is

00:09:34.020 inciting violence against federal law enforcement. Nothing's going to happen to that guy. He won't

00:09:40.500 be arrested, almost certainly. If he is arrested, he'll get off the hook in two seconds. Kill your

00:09:45.860 local ICE agent, you're good. You'll actually be celebrated, at least tacitly, by liberal

00:09:51.660 politicians. But what if that sign said, don't be gay? What if that sign said what the Chicago

00:09:57.560 Bull said? I don't think that LGBT stuff is righteous. The guy would have been arrested

00:10:03.600 for a hate crime. He would have been arrested first for vandalism, property crimes, and then

00:10:10.040 it would have been aggravated, it would have been exacerbated by hate crimes. That's what

00:10:14.620 would have happened. There'd be a federal civil rights investigation into that. These are the

00:10:19.320 standards we live by. And so for the people who, they're normal people, center left, moderate,

00:10:27.900 center right, the ones who say, well, you know, the left has gone far, but some of these right

00:10:32.500 wingers, they're really, these Christian nationalists, they, I don't know about them.

00:10:37.140 I don't, you know, I don't want to live in a theocracy. First of all, you're not going to

00:10:41.660 a theocracy. Theocracy is government by clerics. But let me tell you something. No matter how

00:10:49.760 extreme the Christian right, the Christian nationalists were to go, they would not have

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00:13:10.920 The Daily Mail runs this headline yesterday that took over social media.

00:13:17.240 Odds are, if you have family members who are at all interested in politics,

00:13:22.140 they have posted this article.

00:13:24.420 They've shared it.

00:13:25.360 It was trending.

00:13:26.080 bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did not, all caps, did not match rifle allegedly used by suspect

00:13:36.300 Tyler Robinson. New court filing claims. Right off the bat, you see this last part,

00:13:44.440 new court filing claims. This is a claim that is being made by the defense. This is a claim

00:13:49.960 being made by the guy who allegedly murdered Charlie Kirk, the leftist with the trans furry

00:13:58.100 boyfriend who killed Charlie. His lawyers have made this claim. So right off the bat, you say,

00:14:05.380 why are we giving credence to what his lawyers are saying? But then just the headline,

00:14:11.500 bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did not match rifle allegedly used by suspect Tyler Robinson.

00:14:15.640 you just read into the article. I'll just read you the first three paragraphs, short paragraphs.

00:14:22.260 The bullet that killed conservative commentator Charlie Kirk may not match the rifle used by

00:14:26.880 suspect Tyler Robinson. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. Headline says did not. First sentence

00:14:32.980 says may not. So right off the bat, we know the headline's a lie. But then it says, okay,

00:14:39.520 may not match the rifle. Robinson, 22, is facing capital murder charges and a potential death

00:14:46.060 sentence for Kirk's murder at Utah Valley University on September 10th. But his defense

00:14:50.840 attorneys now argue that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms and Explosives, quote,

00:14:55.120 was unable to identify the bullet recovered at autopsy to the rifle allegedly tied to Mr.

00:15:01.080 Robinson. Hold on, hold on, hold on. The first claim was the bullets don't match.

00:15:09.520 the inescapable implication being that this guy, Tyler Robinson, did not actually murder Charlie

00:15:17.080 Kirk. That's the inescapable conclusion you would have to draw from that headline.

00:15:20.940 Then the first sentence contradicts the headline. It says it may not match. And then the third

00:15:25.280 sentence tells you what actually happened. The ATF just couldn't identify the bullet

00:15:29.920 because it was split into fragments. It's not that they identified it as a bullet that doesn't

00:15:33.860 match the gun. They didn't identify the bullet at all because the fragments were exploded.

00:15:39.520 So it might match the gun, might not match the gun.

00:15:44.640 Based strictly on the bullet, you just can't come to a conclusion.

00:15:48.880 You know what can lead you to a conclusion?

00:15:51.860 The fact that Tyler Robinson allegedly confessed to the crime

00:15:58.640 multiple times through multiple media,

00:16:03.720 including to his father who turned him into the police.

00:16:09.520 His fingerprints were found on the gun and the gun fired a bullet at Charlie, a bullet which

00:16:18.820 exploded such that the ATF can't perfectly identify with 100% certainty exactly what kind

00:16:26.580 of bullet it is because it exploded, but which nevertheless, obviously was fired from this gun.

00:16:34.080 Why does this one irk me? There have been conspiracy theories floating around Charlie's

00:16:38.980 murder from five seconds after he was killed. As he was dying, you had conspiracy theories,

00:16:46.640 first launched by the left, by the way, floating around. You had Matthew Dowd,

00:16:51.180 the Democrat strategist on MSNBC. He floated the first quasi-conspiracy theory, which is saying

00:16:56.740 that he did it to himself. He said, oh, Charlie, he spoke hate, and this is what happens when you

00:17:00.900 speak hate. Now, I guess that's more victim blaming. It's got a twinge of conspiracy theory

00:17:06.060 to it. Then you had people saying, maybe it was a radical right-winger who did it.

00:17:11.720 Then, then, then. But why does this, people have been doing this forever, and they always do this

00:17:16.280 when someone's assassinated. When any major event happens, conspiracy theories explode.

00:17:21.260 In very rare circumstances, the conspiracy theories turn, if they don't turn out to be

00:17:25.120 right, they at least raise some questions about what happened. But the overwhelming majority of

00:17:30.520 the time, they're not true. But people go there. Okay, so why does this one bother me? Here's why.

00:17:36.060 it occurred to me. One, there's a difference between speculating on the murder of Charlie

00:17:42.180 Kirk and whether or not we went to the moon or something, or whether or not someone blew up the

00:17:47.640 Titanic or any of the kind of outlandish conspiracy theories that nevertheless, you know, the thing

00:17:54.420 about the moon, that's kind of fun to think about. Did we fake it? Was it Stanley Kubrick did? I

00:18:00.020 don't know how we fooled the Soviet Union. I don't know how we got them to go along with it, but

00:18:03.080 ah, that's kind of fun. It's kind of trivial. It's kind of inconsequential. With this one, though,

00:18:09.860 and I've seen this up close, not just because I was pals with Charlie, but because

00:18:14.480 the person who allegedly killed Charlie, that kind of person, has threatened to and attempted to

00:18:22.740 injure a lot of us on the right for a very long time. A guy went to prison, federal prison,

00:18:32.340 for throwing an explosive at one of my speaking events at the University of Pittsburgh,

00:18:36.980 where I was discussing the exact same issues that allegedly motivated Tyler Robinson to murder

00:18:44.940 Charlie. Okay, so you see this up close, and it means it has immediate political import.

00:18:51.220 This guy did it, allegedly. I have to say allegedly because he hasn't been convicted yet.

00:18:55.460 But this guy, according to reports about his own confessions, did it.

00:19:02.900 And this means that if conspiracy theories gain traction, this guy could get off the hook.

00:19:10.820 He could get away with murder.

00:19:13.280 And when someone murders your friend, you don't want that person to get off the hook.

00:19:17.720 And for millions and millions of people who didn't know Charlie personally, but who might as well have, who felt like they knew him personally,

00:19:23.860 who might have met him at some point, but who loved his leadership and his videos,

00:19:28.560 that would feel like an absolutely unacceptable injustice.

00:19:34.120 And so, then why am I so angry at the Daily Mail?

00:19:36.860 A lot of other people have spread these conspiracy theories.

00:19:38.860 And I'll tell you why.

00:19:40.320 Because there are people who really believe them.

00:19:44.840 I know it's very tempting to say everyone's just being cynical about the Charlie conspiracy theories.

00:19:49.280 i think a lot of people sincerely believe the conspiracy theories and it's very difficult to

00:19:57.020 persuade people out of that okay and so for them you just i don't know you hope you can persuade

00:20:01.240 them you hope it okay the daily mail obviously doesn't believe the theory the daily mail is just

00:20:08.800 cynically promoting it to get clicks i was going to say to sell newspapers they don't do that

00:20:13.960 anymore, to get clicks. That's what this is about. The headline is a lie. They admit that it's a lie

00:20:21.060 in the first sentence. And the stakes are very high for this. My view of politics, as I've said

00:20:30.160 many a time, is that politics is not debate club. Some people, especially in the pundit class,

00:20:36.420 but sometimes even in the elected class, especially among the pundits, they view politics as debate

00:20:41.440 club. They view politics as a matter of pure ideology, that we just speak into existence.

00:20:49.640 And they get very angry and impatient with politicians who are actually trying to do the

00:20:53.820 practical work of politics, with the activists who are going out and whipping the votes,

00:20:57.160 with the organizers and the coalition builders. They get very angry with them because they're

00:21:00.460 not so lily white and pure. You know, the ideologues, they just get to speak their maxims

00:21:06.800 into the air, and then they get to go back to their quiet, private little lives. They don't

00:21:10.000 have to deal with the mess of it. But I like the reality of politics. I like, I like politics as

00:21:16.860 a lived action in a political community that is not totally pure. That is not, uh, perfectly

00:21:25.920 ideological that involves compromise and involves power struggles. And sometimes you've got to win

00:21:32.720 and you've got to beat the bad guy and you've got to lock the bad guy. And this would be a case of

00:21:35.500 that. A leftist murdered Charlie Kirk, and then the mainstream left, to a distressingly large

00:21:43.800 degree, celebrated it afterward. And they need to be punished for that in order to dissuade them

00:21:50.420 from continuing to kill conservatives. They need to be punished as a matter of justice and a matter

00:21:56.320 of deterrence. It's bad enough when people are just confused about the facts or sincerely believe

00:22:03.600 theories that are contrary to reality, that could undermine our political moment. When people do it

00:22:10.420 obviously, cynically, for purely selfish motives, just to get clicks, just to make money,

00:22:18.240 justice be damned, safety be damned, political community be damned, it's very disreputable,

00:22:24.080 very, very irresponsible stuff from the Daily Mail. I should not be terribly surprised, but

00:22:28.100 really, I have a lot of emotional discipline, okay? That's my Anglo side. That's not my Sicilian

00:22:36.120 side. My Anglo side is stiff upper lip. I have a lot of emotional discipline. That one really,

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00:24:56.580 me kill this guy. And I'm getting the green light in my head, brother. Like, let's go. And here he

00:25:01.040 comes, man. The doors open up. The little half saloon doors back then. I reach back. I hit him

00:25:05.000 as hard as I could. Boom. And I've crossed this line, man, where I'm ready to kill another human

00:25:09.220 being, and I don't want to stop. I went berserk, man. I lost my mind.

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00:25:35.400 the washington post is now now they're getting multimedia i don't know they got they took a

00:25:43.080 lesson from the new york times maybe they took a lesson from the daily wire but they had a dear

00:25:47.740 abby sort of letter an advice column that piqued my interest because it gets to probably the

00:25:57.960 bedrock political problem that we have the bedrock political problem we face is not

00:26:04.820 immigration. It's not taxation. It's not foreign policy. The bedrock political problem we have is

00:26:11.820 that we no longer know what marriage is. And I'm not just blaming the gays. That's a problem too.

00:26:17.140 The fact that we think two fellows can get married or two ladies can get married. That is a big

00:26:20.740 problem. It has a lot of bad consequences, but that's not the bedrock problem. The bedrock

00:26:25.180 problem is even when we agree that marriage is between a man and a woman, we don't actually know

00:26:29.180 what it is as exemplified in this Washington Post question. I stopped having sex with my husband and

00:26:37.220 now he's sleeping in a tent in our backyard. I'm embarrassed by what our neighbors might think.

00:26:42.400 How can I talk some sense into him? Can we talk about the fact that the first response you have

00:26:47.260 is that you're embarrassed about what the neighbors might think? I think your conversation should not

00:26:52.160 be about talking sense into your husband. I think it should be talking to your husband. I'm not going

00:26:56.820 to say anything about the unilateral decision that you made to stop having sex with your husband

00:27:01.680 because those are complicated decisions and once you've decided not to have sex it is your decision

00:27:07.840 but it seems like neither of you is talking to the other about how you feel i don't know

00:27:12.640 where the neighbors come into that

00:27:15.460 okay uh totally wrong every perfectly wrong advice first of all she says i can't believe

00:27:25.240 your first thought is, what might the neighbors think? Of course, that's going to be your first

00:27:28.220 thought. You're having marital problems. Your husband is doing this crazy stunt that is going

00:27:33.920 to spook your neighbors. He is doing that. So your thought is, gosh, what are the neighbors going to

00:27:38.580 think? So he can actually get your attention to draw your mind to the fact that this is a big

00:27:42.620 problem that you won't sleep with your husband. And then what does she say? She says, look,

00:27:46.540 when you decide not to sleep with your husband, that's your decision.

00:27:48.500 i know this is going to be a little controversial i know look when you say things that everybody knew

00:27:57.200 five years ago at this point maybe 10 years ago now when you say things everybody knew five

00:28:02.880 minutes ago but you say them today it's controversial but it's not your decision

00:28:09.460 can i say that whether or not to sleep with your husband or to sleep with your wife

00:28:17.000 that is not in fact entirely your decision. When you get married,

00:28:24.260 it's amazing that it needs to be said. When you get married, you are agreeing to sleep with your

00:28:31.700 spouse. Save for the rarest of exceptions. There is a very rare exception called a Josephite

00:28:41.280 marriage? Why is it named Josephite marriage after St. Joseph, who Christians traditionally

00:28:48.180 believe, and most Christians still do believe, Joseph and Mary had a chaste marriage.

00:28:56.940 They didn't have sex together. I guess you can have a chaste marriage and still be sexually

00:29:00.300 active, but they did not. I actually did a little fun Twitter poll on this the other day. I said,

00:29:04.780 when it comes to the claim that Mary was perpetually a virgin, not just a virgin before

00:29:09.740 the birth of Jesus, but afterward as well. Do you agree with the Catholic Church's view on this,

00:29:15.080 or do you agree with the view of the Protestant reformers like Luther, Martin Luther, Ulrich

00:29:20.080 Zwingli, later Protestants, John Wesley? What do you agree with, the Catholic view or that

00:29:25.720 Protestant view? And the trick of the question, of course, was that they all agreed. They all

00:29:29.360 agreed with the perpetual opportunity of Mary. So anyway, I exempt Josephite marriages, and there

00:29:34.560 have been some more recent examples of that too i would also say i exempt if there is a grave an

00:29:40.680 exceedingly grave reason for instance here's an example because of some medical complication

00:29:47.740 if doctors can say with great certainty that if a woman becomes pregnant it will kill her

00:29:53.420 but the couple doesn't want to use artificial contraception because they view that as a sin

00:29:58.080 there, you could see a grave reason, a grave exception for not, but all of that digression

00:30:04.680 to say, ladies, you have to sleep with your husband. It's not just your choice. Husbands,

00:30:11.380 I don't know, maybe you don't want to sleep with your wife. Maybe your wife, maybe you think she's

00:30:15.260 ugly now. I don't know why. Maybe you just, she's annoying you. Maybe, I don't know why,

00:30:19.220 but you have to sleep with your wife too. Spouses, you have to sleep together. That is in fact

00:30:26.780 the action that defines a marriage. Some will be tempted to say, no, how dare you, Michael?

00:30:33.960 That's so reductive. No, what defines a marriage is the emotional support. Yeah, no, that's all

00:30:39.180 a good of marriage. No, what defines a marriage is we have dinner together. So I like, I have

00:30:44.580 dinner with a lot of people. No, what defines a marriage? We sleep in the same bed. I've shared

00:30:48.480 bunks before. You know what defines a marriage? That thing that married people do, and you have

00:30:53.440 to do it. And the real

00:30:55.460 reason that people resist this

00:30:56.860 is not even feminism.

00:30:59.800 I mean, look, that's a big driver of it.

00:31:01.360 It's not even...

00:31:03.420 It doesn't even have to do with marriage

00:31:05.380 or sex. The real reason that

00:31:07.340 people reject that view in modernity

00:31:09.420 is because it implies that

00:31:11.440 we are not totally

00:31:13.120 autonomous. It implies that we have

00:31:15.180 obligations. I have to do things.

00:31:18.860 And what's

00:31:19.500 so crazy is our culture,

00:31:21.580 all societies, when they flourish,

00:31:23.440 recognize that we have a lot of duties and obligations. We have obligations to our country.

00:31:29.000 Maybe that's military service. Maybe that's just other public service. We have obligations to our

00:31:33.260 community in giving alms and giving charity and philanthropy. Let me ask you a question.

00:31:37.660 I'm preaching to the choir here, but do you give to charity? How much of your income do you give

00:31:42.180 to charity? Bible says you're supposed to give 10%. Do you give 10%? Most people don't. Maybe

00:31:50.980 you don't, probably not. I don't know. Depends on how you cut it. Maybe you don't. But do you

00:31:54.480 give 5%? Do you give 3%? A lot of people don't give anything. You have obligations to your

00:32:01.660 employer. And you have obligations to your spouse. You got to sleep with your spouse.

00:32:05.220 But people don't want to acknowledge that we have natural obligations as well as obligations

00:32:10.860 that we enter into. That is what cuts at the heart of liberalism. But that is why liberalism

00:32:17.340 cuts at the heart of the most basic political institution, which is why liberalism is like an

00:32:21.400 acid that pours over all of society and which now turns society against itself. That's why the

00:32:27.360 liberal societies are suicidal. No surprise that Washington Post got that wrong, but you should

00:32:32.860 not get that wrong. Get that one right. Okay, speaking of moral teaching, this is a doozy.

00:32:36.420 Right out of the Ohio House, the Ohio House has just passed a law against indecent exposure to

00:32:44.920 minors. That's the good news. The bad news, every single Democrat voted against it. Watch history

00:32:53.960 happen live with me tomorrow. I will be at NASA at Cape Canaveral for the Artemis 2 launch. This

00:33:01.820 is the mission sending humans back around the moon for the first time in over 50 years, or depending

00:33:06.740 on your point of view, for the first time ever. I will have special guests with me. We will be

00:33:10.780 live on Daily Wire Plus for a Q&A with all of you during the launch window. If you want to be

00:33:15.380 part of it, you've got to be a Daily Wire Plus member. Go to dailywire.com slash subscribe to

00:33:19.980 join us. Now, I didn't pick this comment. The producers picked this comment. We'll see if

00:33:25.300 they picked a good one. This is from Hardboiled Entertainment. It says, Michael, you and I both

00:33:28.800 know Matt's going to do his next documentary as a trip with J.D. Vance to Area 51, etc.

00:33:34.640 I hope that that's Matt's next documentary because J.D. Vance can correct his mistaken view.

00:33:42.100 Because J.D. Vance, being an intelligent and educated and serious man,

00:33:46.960 knows that aliens are much more likely to be demons than they are to be little green men.

00:33:54.440 Back to the moral teaching of the Ohio House.

00:33:58.280 We should all agree, whether you're religious or secular,

00:34:02.680 whether you are Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Shinto, Buddhist, we should all agree, shouldn't we,

00:34:09.160 that indecent exposure to minors is wrong and should be outlawed, right? Well,

00:34:15.740 Democrats disagree. The Ohio House just passed this law. Every Democrat opposed it. Why?

00:34:22.660 Because the law would possibly infringe on the LGBTQ movement.

00:34:29.560 pride parades from coast to coast usually engage with indecent exposure to minors

00:34:37.960 we've all seen the videos i don't need to play the videos we we've seen over many years the

00:34:43.720 pictures and the videos from the pride parades that are not in some seedy alley in a red light

00:34:48.680 district they're on main street and there are kids at these parades we've seen the drag queen story

00:34:54.000 hour shows. We've seen kids at drag bars. We've seen, we've seen all that. We know that men go

00:35:00.400 into the women's bathroom because of LGBT rights, so-called, which often results in indecent

00:35:08.400 exposure. We know all these things. And so the Libs say, okay, between protecting kids from

00:35:13.160 indecent exposure and promoting weird sex stuff, we're going to choose the weird sex stuff.

00:35:18.080 Chicago Bulls, the only thing you're not allowed to say. You could go in there,

00:35:21.880 blaspheme god all day the bulls will love you the minute you go in and say actually i object

00:35:27.140 somewhat to creepy sex stuff you're fired you're out this goes very very deep so deep in fact

00:35:35.840 that i would i would go so as far as to say that the sexualization of children

00:35:40.520 is uh intrinsic to the left-wing political vision i don't think that's overstating it

00:35:46.720 Here's a 1969 essay by the once and future Democrat presidential candidate Bernie Sanders.

00:35:53.680 Bernie Sanders, been a Democrat legislator for 150 years, this close to being president

00:36:00.040 multiple times, actually might have had a shot at it had the Democrats not stolen the

00:36:03.860 nomination from him.

00:36:04.880 In a 1969 essay in the Vermont Freeman, he wrote, quote, in Vermont at a state beach,

00:36:10.960 a mother is reprimanded by authority for allowing her six-year-old daughter to go about without

00:36:15.060 her diapers on.

00:36:15.740 Now, if children go around naked, they are liable to see each other's sexual organs and maybe even touch them.

00:36:22.140 Terrible thing.

00:36:23.540 If we raise children up like this, it will probably ruin the whole pornography business,

00:36:28.520 not to mention the large segment of the general economy, which makes its money by playing on people's sexual frustrations.

00:36:36.160 So it's an ironic comment.

00:36:40.020 He's saying, oh, no, we could ruin the whole pornography business.

00:36:42.640 If what?

00:36:43.440 What is he actually advocating here?

00:36:45.740 What he's advocating is having kids run around naked so that they can see each other's sexual organs and touch them.

00:36:55.200 That's what he's saying.

00:36:56.080 That's what he's advocating for here.

00:36:58.260 Using not so subtle verbal irony, he's saying, I, politician Bernie Sanders, as a matter of my political ideology, want kids to run around naked and molest each other.

00:37:10.200 this got him in a little bit of trouble when he ran for president but the media mostly

00:37:15.240 brushed under the rug this was not a one-off he was influenced by leading left-wing thinkers of

00:37:21.680 his day the the clearest one being wilhelm reich who had this idea that all the problems of the

00:37:26.580 world are caused by people not having enough orgasms that was actually his theory and a lot

00:37:31.120 prominent leftists and left-wing intellectuals believe that but but we do this to this day

00:37:36.260 Even if the left is not as open about it as they were in 1969, what is coming out day at school

00:37:41.840 about? What is coming out day? I remember they had that when I was a kid. Coming out day. Coming

00:37:47.200 out day is when kids say that they're gay. They walk through a door and they decide to be gay or

00:37:53.960 they tell everyone that they've previously said they're gay. What's that about? That's about

00:37:59.340 sexualizing kids. The phrase protect LGBT youth, protect trans youth. What's that about?

00:38:05.480 that's about sexualizing kids. That's about encouraging kids to think more and more about

00:38:12.640 sex and to more aberrant forms of sex. The left believes that exposing kids to weird sex stuff

00:38:19.480 is good for them because it allows them to experiment and discover their true desires,

00:38:26.360 which exist in some, I don't know, platonic realm, but which they have not yet discovered.

00:38:33.560 So, like Plato's theory of knowledge, they need to discover, they need to relearn what they have forgotten.

00:38:40.180 They need to remember the hidden knowledge that they have forgotten, but which nonetheless pertains to them.

00:38:45.800 I don't think I'm overstating it.

00:38:47.420 I don't think I'm being hyperbolic, or I'm attacking straw men, or anything like that.

00:38:52.360 I mean, you can read the Bernie Sanders essay, you can look at the vote in the Ohio State House,

00:38:56.180 and you can just see the implications of the left-wing ideology,

00:38:59.140 which says that the purpose of life is self-actualization and self-control and therefore

00:39:06.040 we need to be authentically ourselves. The traditional religious view is we need to conform

00:39:11.280 ourselves to God. That we're born, you know, the creation is good, but it's a fallen world and so

00:39:17.280 there's some problems and we need to conform ourselves to God and in that way we will most

00:39:21.320 perfectly be ourselves. The liberal view says the opposite. It says forget about conforming

00:39:24.920 yourself to God, that's bad. That's going to give you neuroses. That's going to give you pathologies.

00:39:29.560 No, no, no. You just need to be authentically yourself. So you need to, especially when we're

00:39:35.960 talking about sex, which is so central to human nature, you need to push the limits of sex.

00:39:41.240 You need to experiment in sex at a younger and younger age. This is their words, not mine.

00:39:48.840 To arrive at their true identities. Their true identities, which year after year become more

00:39:53.340 and more perverse. Because when we try to conform ourselves to God, who is immutable and all good

00:40:00.340 and all true and all beautiful, then we become more perfect. And we become more free, actually.

00:40:07.720 But when we try to just be more like ourselves, you get caught in this kind of Ouroboros,

00:40:12.560 like a snake eating its own tail. Whatever defects you have, they become more and more

00:40:19.300 pronounced. Unless you yourself are perfect. And then becoming more and more like yourself,

00:40:24.320 I suppose, will be good. But assuming you're not perfect, that is actually what creates the

00:40:29.300 neuroses and the pathologies and all the problems. As you can just see, we can see that anecdotally

00:40:33.940 around us. Really creepy anyway, because the left doesn't want to admit this openly. They used to

00:40:39.620 when Bernie was writing. They don't now. But encouraging kids to do weird sex stuff

00:40:46.160 is intrinsic to the left-wing political vision.

00:40:51.660 And if you have a problem with that, prove me wrong.

00:40:53.940 I haven't heard an argument against it.

00:40:55.740 Speaking of sex scandals, Eric Swalwell,

00:40:58.800 the would-be future governor of California,

00:41:00.620 he's actually probably not eligible legally

00:41:02.560 to run for governor of California,

00:41:04.140 as his fellow Democrat candidate Tom Steyer pointed out,

00:41:07.480 because Eric Swalwell is not, in fact,

00:41:09.600 a resident of California,

00:41:10.800 and the California state constitution says you have to be.

00:41:14.000 He can sort that out himself.

00:41:15.280 The irony of Swalwell right now in his current job in the House of Representatives is that Swalwell sent a cease and desist to the FBI to stop the FBI from releasing documents about his involvement with the Chinese spy, Fang Fang.

00:41:33.980 Involvement here is a euphemism.

00:41:36.800 He knew, biblically, this Chinese spy, Fang Fang.

00:41:42.800 And we've known about that for a long time.

00:41:44.320 he's tried to evade the questions. Now, the Washington Post is reporting the FBI is considering

00:41:50.000 releasing some of these documents, and he is threatening to sue them, to stop them from doing

00:41:55.020 that. Now, this is very strange, because I seem to recall Eric Swalwell quite recently demanding

00:42:03.300 that the FBI be more transparent, that the FBI release files pertaining to sex scandals and

00:42:11.520 potential blackmail. Not just that Eric Swalwell was calling on the FBI to release files, but he

00:42:17.500 was calling to release files in specifically this case, in exactly the kind of situation

00:42:23.380 that he's involved in with Fang Fang. He tweeted out, you don't need a judge.

00:42:28.660 Trump has the files. Why won't he release them now? Swalwell, again, the American people deserve

00:42:35.180 transparency, not redactions and cover-ups. What happened to that transparency?

00:42:43.320 Now, whatever you think about the Epstein files, the whole Epstein political football was strutted

00:42:48.920 as a Democrat scandal, and then somehow the Democrats made it a Republican scandal, but it

00:42:53.680 really should be more of a Democrat scandal. It's a hot potato, whatever. In any case,

00:42:57.840 it is way more responsible to release the files relating to Swalwell and Fang Fang.

00:43:03.380 It's just two people.

00:43:04.700 We know they had a relationship.

00:43:06.260 We know she's a Chinese spy.

00:43:08.040 This does not really threaten to ensnare innocent people here.

00:43:11.400 We know this all happened.

00:43:13.200 With the Epstein files, it seems like half the people in the country emailed Epstein at some point.

00:43:17.000 And some of them were crooks and scoundrels.

00:43:19.140 Some of them were perfectly innocent.

00:43:20.980 So if you're calling for transparency, it is much more reasonable to call for the transparency on the Swalwell, Fang Fang files than the Epstein files.

00:43:31.140 especially because this guy who is clearly compromised by the Chinese is not just a

00:43:37.040 sitting federal legislator, but he's seeking to become the governor of California, one of

00:43:41.260 the largest economies in the world. Okay. Before we go, I know, I know I'm running late. I don't

00:43:46.920 care. Uh, Eric Trump, president Trump's son has just released footage of what will become

00:43:53.540 the Donald J. Trump presidential library. Do we have the B roll? Look at that. So it's in Miami

00:43:59.320 giant. It looks kind of like Freedom Tower in New York, which was the tower that replaced the

00:44:04.900 World Trade Center. So it's not that it's the most beautiful architecture in the world, but it's a

00:44:10.740 stunning building in its size. Very New York. It's very Trump. Very 80s. Very Wall Street.

00:44:18.520 It's just very, it's cool. Big Trump name on the top. And then I think they've got other facilities

00:44:24.720 there where you could have nice cocktail parties, nice greenery, big American flag down the middle.

00:44:30.080 It's nice. It's not Beaux-Arts. It's not Art Nouveau or even Art Deco, but it's nice. It's okay.

00:44:38.040 It's a nice building. Good job. They did a good job. Very Trump. I was hoping that it would not

00:44:43.320 be in Miami or New York. I was hoping that the Trump library would become the Donald J. Trump

00:44:49.100 presidential library and casino in Atlantic City. I thought that would be the funniest version of it,

00:44:53.260 But they haven't. Okay, it's going to be in Miami, and it's cool. It's really nice.

00:44:57.720 Where's that Obama library? They're almost done with that, right? Do we have a picture of that?

00:45:01.600 Yeah. So if you're only listening now, you've got to go Google it if you haven't seen it already.

00:45:07.000 Barack Obama's library is almost done, and I can't describe to you how ugly it is.

00:45:14.520 It's brutalist, and brutalism itself is very ugly, but it's particularly ugly brutalism.

00:45:20.280 It looks just like a big, ugly, asymmetrical, but still just flat slab, angular flat slab

00:45:33.780 in the middle of Chicago.

00:45:36.400 Somehow, despite all the degradation to Chicago in recent years, the Obama Library makes Chicago

00:45:42.480 uglier compared to the Trump building.

00:45:46.100 red, white, and blue, flag, nice, 80s New York, business. The reason that I

00:45:53.700 pointed out is not just to dunk on Obama. The added perversity of the two presidential libraries is

00:46:02.520 the presidents get to pick their library. It's not like anyone forced this on them.

00:46:10.000 I'm sure President Trump, or at the very least his family, was involved in designing. But knowing

00:46:13.980 Trump. I bet he was pretty actively involved in designing the library himself. So was Obama.

00:46:21.000 Obama picked that. Obama picked the brutalism. Nobody forced it on. It's kind of, I think of

00:46:28.720 that meme, the meme of the guy going up to talk to the cute girl, you know, says, hi, could I buy

00:46:33.180 you a drink? And then the just big fat, ugly friend walks up and says, oh, actually she's not

00:46:37.060 interested. That's what it's like looking at the two presidential libraries. Hi, I'd like to go

00:46:40.820 visit a presidential library. You're just trying to walk into the beautiful Trump library. And

00:46:44.160 then just the ugly Obama one comes around. Oh, actually, he's not interested. You can come to

00:46:49.000 my library instead. It's brutal. It's awful. The Obama one's brutalist. And it reflects the

00:46:57.300 president's. The Trump library is so Trump. So Trump. New York, big, bold, brash, glass,

00:47:05.740 not the most ornamented, but it's there, makes a statement. The Obama library, it's just a bunch

00:47:12.360 of ugly nothing. It's a bunch of depressing, nihilistic nothing. What was Obama? He's just

00:47:19.500 kind of nothing, just kind of ugly. Not physically, fine looking guy. Just ugly, drab, spirit

00:47:28.200 discouraging nothing. Reminds me of a line that I heard. I think Drew Clavin might've told me this,

00:47:32.820 but it's a become a cliche by 40 you've earned your face if you're ugly at 12 or even at 18

00:47:42.520 that's probably not your fault i don't know just genetics or circumstances in which you were born

00:47:47.540 but if you're really ugly if you look weathered and i don't know just twisted and bent by the

00:47:56.560 time you're 40 that's on you you've lived that way you didn't have to live that way it's true

00:48:01.900 with these buildings. That building is Obama and that other building is Trump. Okay. I want to get

00:48:08.060 to the controversy about President Trump's Air Force One. Sorry, about President Trump's new

00:48:13.980 ballroom at the White House, which he just was discussing on Air Force One. But I don't have

00:48:18.180 time. I got to get to it. I got to get to it tomorrow. Speaking of federal buildings, we're

00:48:22.800 going to be heading on down to Cape Canaveral for the launch of Artemis II. So if you're around

00:48:27.040 there for the launch, I'll see you there. If not, I'll see you here because we're going to have a

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