Ep. 195 - The Greatest Jobs-Producer God Ever Created
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As socialist empty heads insist that the economy isn t working, a record high number of Americans are working because the economy is soaring. We will analyze the greatest jobs producer God ever created and the threats that it faces. Then, I know you'll be shocked to hear this: Jim Acosta is complaining some more, Owen Benjamin stops by, and Pope Francis changes church teaching on capital punishment.
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As socialist empty heads insist that the economy isn't working,
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a record high number of Americans are working because the economy is absolutely soaring.
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We will analyze the greatest jobs producer God ever created and the threats that it faces.
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Owen Benjamin stops by, that huge pianist friend of ours,
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and Pope Francis changes church teaching on capital punishment.
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We will analyze the many wonderful benefits of killing criminals.
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I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
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We're going to have to cover everything from how wonderful capitalism is
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to questioning certain changes that are coming out of the Roman Curia
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and out of the Vatican, certain things that seem a little strange.
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when people, a difference between Protestants or more evangelical Christians and Catholics
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is when more Protestant-leaning people question their pastors
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well, is it perhaps the case that the Holy Father is mistaken?
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I wonder if I am misunderstanding the Holy Father.
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We will have to see if we are misunderstanding the Holy Father on the death penalty.
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Before all that, you know, another promise has been kept.
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Everything was going to go terribly if he were elected.
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he would be the greatest jobs president that God ever created.
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I'll be the greatest jobs president that God ever created.
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a spirit that many people have told me they've never seen before, ever.
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I said that I will be the greatest jobs producer that God ever created.
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The record shows that in the month of July, the most recent month that we have numbers
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for, a record high number, 155,965,000 people were employed in the United States.
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But by the way, that's the 11th record breaker since President Trump took office.
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This is true, by the way, the way that Democrats and socialists try to spin this is they say,
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well, the economy is working really well for some people, but it's not working well for
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And this is when they try to demagogue on issues of class division or race division or sexual
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But even when you look at all of their divisive categories, the numbers still hold up.
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We now have record low Hispanic unemployment in the United States.
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This is the second record because he's had record low Hispanic unemployment two months in a row.
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Last month, the economy added 157,000 new jobs and unemployment has fallen below 3.9%.
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To put that into perspective, economists consider an unemployment rate of 4% to 6.4% to be full
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Because if you're in a system that has freedom, you're going to have some unemployment.
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A company might fire somebody who's not doing a good job, and then they'll find a job that
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And we are now looking at an unemployment figure below that.
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We have more than full employment in this country.
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Because he said, I'm the greatest jobs president God ever created.
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But then he said, I'm the greatest jobs producer that God ever created.
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He's the greatest jobs president, but he's not the greatest jobs producer.
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And it's a wonderful time to be seeing these numbers because you have the rise of socialism
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We've talked about how the democratic socialists of America have increased their membership
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The majority of millennials consider themselves socialist.
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At the same time, we are seeing that economic freedom, economic liberty, capitalism creates
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This is the first time that we've seen this in our political lives as millennials.
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And it's impressive to see because why is President Trump the greatest jobs president
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Because he is increasing freedom and decreasing regulation.
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He is letting people keep more of their money by lowering taxes, historic tax reform on companies
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So he's making it harder for these bureaucrats and technocrats to control every aspect of our
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We're now the biggest exporter of oil in the world.
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You know, during the Obama administration, we would hear, no, you can't drill here.
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And what President Trump did very simply, perhaps just on his gut, is when he got in,
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We're going to open up the bonds that are holding this economy back.
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This economy should have been roaring years ago because you had that recession in 2007,
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And after steep recessions, you should have a steep recovery.
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But President Obama just put shackle upon shackle.
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I think even conservatives need to tell ourselves this sometimes.
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Because sometimes we conservatives, you know, we get a little contrarian, a little tweedy,
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When you unshackle people, they are free to be creative.
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And this is true as a matter of political speech.
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The accusation against President Trump and this administration is that he's authoritarian.
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By letting people say and do whatever they want.
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You know, one of the observations of this era in politics is people are sort of frenzied.
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The authoritarian so-called government isn't stopping anybody from doing that.
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The president doesn't tell anybody to stop doing that.
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The freedom of the press has not been abridged.
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The freedom of the people to speak their minds has not been abridged.
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And by the way, even with all that screaming and all that fake news and all that anti-administration
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rhetoric coming out of the mainstream media, the administration's approval ratings are 50%.
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They're doing very, very well because people, when you give them freedom, when they say,
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look, you can speak and you can speak and you can speak, battle it out.
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It's not, it's not couth, but it's really raucous and people can get a semblance of the truth.
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Some people are not thrilled about this though.
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And by some people, I, of course, am referring to Ron Burgundy himself, Jim Acosta.
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I just wanted to follow up on, on Sarah's question from NPR.
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She asked you about Ivanka Trump's statement that the press is not the enemy of the people.
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And she asked you whether or not the press is the enemy of the people.
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You read off a laundry list of your concerns about the press and things that you feel like
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are misreported, but you did not say that the press is not the enemy of the people.
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And I, I think it would be a good thing if you were to say right here at this briefing
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that the press, the people who are gathered in this room right now, doing their jobs every
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day, asking questions of officials like the ones you brought forward earlier, are not
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I think the president has made his position known.
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I politely waited and I even called on you despite the fact that you interrupted me by
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I said, it's ironic, which is why I interrupted.
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But if you, if you finish, if you would not mind letting me have a follow up, that would
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But it's ironic, Jim, uh, that not only you and the media attacked the president for
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his rhetoric, uh, when they frequently lower the level of conversation in this country.
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Repeatedly, repeatedly, the media resorts to personal attacks without any content other
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Uh, the media has attacked me personally on a number of occasions, including your own
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network, said I should be harassed as a life sentence, that I should be choked.
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ICE officials are not welcomed in their place of worship and personal information is shared
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When I was hosted by the Correspondents Association, of which almost all of you are members of,
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you brought a comedian up to attack my appearance and call me a traitor to my own gender.
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In fact, as I know, um, I'm, as far as I know, I'm the first press secretary in the
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history of the United States that's required secret service protection.
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The media continues to ratchet up the verbal assault against the president and everyone
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And certainly we have a role to play, but the media has a role to play for the discourse
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So Ron Burgundy, Jim Acosta leans in there and he says, listen, you, uh, we have freedom
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And that's why you need to tell all the American citizens to shut up.
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And Sarah Sanders is saying like, well, that sounds like a you problem, Jim Acosta.
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That certainly doesn't sound like a me problem.
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And I love the idea of this, by the way, that Jim Acosta, you know, just a guy built in
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He's saying, hey, listen, lady, say what exactly what I want you to say.
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And then the left is outraged because a woman wouldn't say what Jim Acosta told her to say.
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The she's the first press secretary in history to require a Secret Service protection.
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And she says, no, we're not going to have that.
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First of all, it's incredible that they still call on Jim Acosta.
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I love that they do, because I think every time Jim Acosta speaks, Trump's poll numbers
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And then what she's saying is not only do you get to speak, Jim, but your critics get
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And to hear the media whine and moan, it's as though they've never been attacked before.
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I think it was 2008 of a mob swarming Fox News.
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I'm sorry if that sounded like a fire alarm to you.
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Because they have to bleep out every second and a half, every millisecond.
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That's a lot worse than Jim Acosta's ever gotten.
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And you didn't really hear people complaining about it then, did you?
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We were talking about the honesty right now of the midterm elections.
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You have Democrats who are coming out and honestly saying,
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Then you've got a Republican, a conservative administration that's saying,
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That's the question that Owen Benjamin has dropped by the studio to answer.
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You've been hiding quietly there since we've been doing that entire segment.
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I've just been sitting on a pun the whole time.
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Why didn't I have you write the title for yesterday's episode about Jim Acosted?
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Because when I'm told to be quiet for a bit, I do a lot of really good thinking and puns.
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This is why you make the big bucks and I'm sitting here in a broom closet.
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I just got off a plane and I'm like, I look like a mime.
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I do the verbal mime where I'm like, I'm in a box.
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Well, I was going to go to Prager's birthday party and I just did that Prager U vid.
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So I just stopped by Corolla's place and then you and then just hanging out.
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For those who haven't seen it, maybe we'll have to add in a video of this.
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You're talking about what's happened to comedy.
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And then in the meantime, between you shooting the video and now, Netflix came out with the
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Where it's like, you know, I'm here to fix this pipe because human excrement is spraying
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So I'm going to go home and just, you're going to drown.
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Like no, like no other job that could even possibly be.
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You go out and you say, I am, I thank you for paying money, everybody.
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I am explicitly going to do the opposite of my job.
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And for those of you thinking that I just brought up the rape thing to be a weirdo, that's
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So I was like referencing what she was like, trying to reference these horribly dark things
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and then why, that's why she will not do comedy as she's being paid to do comedy.
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Well, I will say you did have to clarify that because not a soul on earth has watched that
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Well, except for their friends sending the trailer being like, what is this?
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It would be like Jim Acosta getting on TV and spreading real news.
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No, his job is to be the irrational, he has to act like a schizophrenic donkey all the
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Just hee-hawing and kicking and acting just ridiculous.
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So this topic that I've been thinking about all week is freedom works.
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This ties into like this oppressive, don't laugh, nothing's funny, don't, there's that
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And then there's the culture of breathe the sweet air of freedom, have a laugh, have a chuckle.
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You know, it's like, that's why it's so rapy on the left, you know?
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It's like, I want to work with you, you want to work with me, let's make both of our lives
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And then you have socialism, which is at the end of a gun, I will establish the price of
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Like, there really is an element of force versus consent, and that seems to permeate people's
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The left, I mean, we've seen this now, all these stories come out of these, like, the
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feminist good guys, the soy boy feminist guys, they are by far the creepy ones with
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And Harvey Weinstein, obviously, the Me Too movement.
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It's the coercion of the left that makes them feel entitled to take whatever they want.
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Right, because what they're doing doesn't actually help women.
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Where it's like, you know what being a woman is?
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Lots of abortions, you know, work 90-hour weeks, never get married, see you guys in
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Like, that's, that's, it's someone who actually loves a woman, and, you know, we just had
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The last thing I would do is establish a fake wage gap.
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My wife's a brilliant woman who wanted to stay home and be a mom and, and just push her into
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the salt mines of, you know, and then just, and, and say, like, abortions and power men
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and all this stuff, and then secretly, they're just up to no good, these guys.
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I mean, because I'm interested in it from a cultural perspective and a political perspective.
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So, the midterm elections right now are being, they're pretty honest.
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I think there's going to be a lot of division, but I think there's more conservatism happening
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with young people, but there is that millennial generation that just has all this dead and
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no purpose, and they really, the problem I see is that the, so the, the evilness of socialism,
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that whisper, like, I'll take care of your debt.
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Because they're so, like, they can't default on it.
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They were, my parents are professors, and they warned me about this a long time ago,
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You know, the devaluing of the, of the, the, the college education, where they're just letting
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And my parents both taught things, like, actual things, not this, like, underwater lesbian ballet.
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They're actually, I read somewhere that if you study economics right now in college,
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Like, for real, because your basic thoughts are, are better than this Marxist nonsense.
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And it's weaponized empathy, too, where it's like, I see the trick.
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It's like, but socialism isn't about supporting the poor.
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Well, you, you had that great video that came out, The Last Bernie Bro.
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Where, we'll have to put a link to it, because it's like, it's like a four-minute video,
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And, and The Last Bernie Bro, spoiler alert, is, is living in Venezuela.
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Made sure he pronounced it the way that, and then, you know, he's got Bumbles, his Frisbee,
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He's like, I'm going to go where the utopia is.
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And, of course, he goes to Venezuela, and my friend, who's playing the guard, is not
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And he's, and he just, you know, spoiler alert, it's only four minutes long, but he steals
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my passport, and I just have to stay in Venezuela.
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Because it's this, it's this extended childhood.
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There's no, you know, meritocracy is scary if you have no skills, and you're raised with
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And that's such an interesting point there in the video.
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Like, it tells you a lot about the country, to go down to the border and see which way the guns
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No, because me and my buddy were talking about that.
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We're like, there is no socialist country in history where people are trying to sneak
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Nobody in Miami is like, I'm going to float on a tire and get to Cuba.
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That's never, ever happened, so why would we want that?
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I'm watching Handmaid's Tale, and I thought I would hate it.
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I thought it was going to be anti-conservant propaganda.
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I'm watching this thing, and I'm like, this is accurate Islam stuff.
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Like, even general mutilation is in it, covering the faces, eight wives.
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I'm like, how is this spun to be anti-Christian?
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By the way, historians, when you're looking back to figure out when the moment was that we
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It was this moment when Owen brought it up on the show.
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This was the beginning of us at Daily Wire getting jihad-ed.
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You got to see my artwork of Muhammad and various horses.
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I've enjoyed watching Handmaid's Tale because it is just trash.
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But you look at it, the people on the left earnestly believe that that is where the United
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But I think it's like a psychosis because they don't see that they're almost accurately
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picturing socialism and some of these caliphates and stuff.
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It's all, there's no free markets in the Handmaid's Tale.
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Like, you know, and that's the irony about this whole thing is they say what they're,
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you know, like clearly Hillary Clinton had something going on with Russia because this
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whole nonsense is coming from some weird projection.
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It's like the closet gay guy with like eight Z-28s, you know, it's like, dude, why don't
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And then the left, everything they're like going so far with, you're like, that's you.
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I mean, you even see when Jim Acosta, when Ron Burgundy is yelling at Sarah Sanders, he's
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saying their premise is that the Trump administration is authoritarian.
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And all Jim Acosta is saying is, tell people not to do anything.
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And of course, the irony is if it really was what they described, they'd all be dead
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Like the one way you know for a fact the media isn't actually being attacked in America
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and this is not a fascist government is because you can hear them talk about that.
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Oh, and it's this like comfort with cognitive dissonance.
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It's like Trump is Hitler, give him your guns, like all this stuff, you know, submit to
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tolerance, like these things that like any child could see, the comfort in it has to come
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from postmodernism where it's like there is no truth in the world because if not, how
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This is my question with the millennials and I honestly don't know which way it's going
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You know, more than half of millennials identify as socialist.
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But this is basically the first time in their lives, in their politically conscious lives,
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Is there any way, do you think, that we can get them back or are they all just going to
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I think a lot of young men don't have any strong male role models.
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That's why they're drawn to people like you and Shapiro and Jordan Peterson.
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We're just, we're so like Conan the Barbarian, don't you think?
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We were talking before about how you were like the most manly guy at Yale at some point.
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Well, it's only because like I would wear Oxford shirts every so often.
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You know, I wasn't wearing a dress all day long.
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You think like, guys, I have never thrown a football in my life.
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In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
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I'm doing a speech for Yaf in the fall, which is how to be a man when you look like a Maddow.
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And they're just very simple things that you can do.
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But that's a very, that's a quality you just did that people want, where you can mock yourself.
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The millennials, they're so shocked when you, I don't know, when I interact with guys, I'm a jerk, you know.
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And you make fun of your own weaknesses or your own things that, like, I was laughing out loud when Shapiro was making fun of how he does ads.
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That's so, like, normal male behavior where I would make fun of my size, like I'm an ogre.
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We're all, you know, like, and sometimes people don't get that and they want it so bad again because they're like, that relieves our pressure.
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Where it's like this pressure is building where no one can just mock each other.
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And I think that there is no mockery on the left.
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It's all, because it's fundamentally such a lie that they can't ever be in their own skin anymore.
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They can't just be free and criticize each other.
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Like, me and you could have an argument over policy and our friendship wouldn't be affected at all.
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But for the left, when you attack their political opinions, they actually say this.
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It's like, sometimes I want to be like, that dude's never seen a dead guy.
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You know, it's kind of like, it's these people are almost doing live action role play with stuff they don't understand.
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You know, one time someone was saying words are violence and I have two kids now.
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I don't want to go to jail or anything, but I want to just, just, just, just go like this and be like, which one do you want?
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Or do you want me to seriously knock your face off your body?
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Do you want to, do you want to see how words are not violence?
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And this is how I know that they don't have any sense of stakes because I'm a giant and I'm, you know, there's no fear sometimes in these people.
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And I'm like, at no point in my life would I ever, that'd be like me looking at an eight foot man.
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You know, it's like, how do you not have that fear of just violence?
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And cause I'm very anti-violence, but it's because, you know, I tell that to people.
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So I'm like, dude, don't forget Sermon on the Mount or you'll get Leviticus again.
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Like we've expanded it to this freedom and the lack of force, you know?
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But you can go right back to that if people start forgetting about the work it took to
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I remember in Exodus, it says, thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
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Perhaps, you know, we've got to go back to some of this more fundamental understanding.
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And the millennials, they're so afraid of, um, or they're, they're so coddled rather
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that they, they don't have that sense of reality.
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You'll talk to them and you'll just think like, have you never rubbed up against reality
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It's like when you have a cast and then your wrist looks weird.
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It's like, um, and it, it's not like there's, I remember where a concept of like spoiled.
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It's not like they, they, they got everything taken from them with this.
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It's not like there's no jealousy there because they now can't function.
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They like have no ability of like functioning in the world.
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And, and I think it's, you know, a bad parenting.
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It's like their parents must, it's like fight club.
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It's like that absentee father, the absentee God that like no one cared about me.
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And there is like, I've noticed this with people, people who have actually
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Either they like go to jail or they are the most joyful people on earth.
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I had that North Korean defector, Ji Song Ho came in here.
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This guy, I don't know that I'll ever meet someone who has suffered.
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Like I saw him as I was going into North Korea.
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No, I saw him crawling out of the, as I was crawling in.
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So I talked to him and I noticed, I thought like, this is the most joyful person I've ever
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So now whenever like, you know, I don't know, I stub my toe on my chair, I'll say, ah,
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And my wife, she'll say like, oh yeah, should I call Ji Song Ho?
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But when I see these millennial types whining because like, they can't just be professional
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I just think like, man, you got to talk to Ji Song Ho, man.
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Because it's like, yeah, the inability of feeling joy.
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That's the thing is even if they did become a famous rapper or something, they still would
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Same nightmare, Sheetz with a higher thread count.
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I mean, I just, like looking around, this is why I'm very into owning the libs.
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I kind of, I disagree respectfully with our ambassador to the UN on this.
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Owning the libs is, it's great because it's, it's so attractive.
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And you compare that joy to this relentless, tedious, self-serious leftism.
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That's what I always do without, without vegans.
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Like, I'm always like, I wouldn't eat a person.
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You know, you just try to like go so far that they're like, what?
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I mean, I've never been to the Andes, but I don't know what happens.
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It's like, no, like make it, I think leftism is such a destructive force that I, I don't
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know why people are like saying that it's, I don't know.
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I'm like, no, you got to take it out any way you can.
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I mean, if the best comedy they can do, if the comedy that the left has, which gets
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Netflix hour long specials is not comedy, then like make them laugh, man.
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I thought my career was done because of like certain opinions I had and it's totally not.
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That, that opinion got you fired from everything.
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Like there'd be jokes I'd write with like a bunch of black dudes I'm on the road with
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My neighbor's mailman's best friend is named Tyrone.
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Cory Booker's imaginary friend T-Bone would be very offended by that joke.
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They have like invisible black people around them.
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And you're like, if you actually see human beings as individuals.
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You never know when the pothole is coming because you don't see people as demographics.
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Like I, if someone's under six, five, I don't even look them in the eye.
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No, but I honestly, I think obviously I'm not a heightist, but like I think height is
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way more divisive than race as far as what your day is like.
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Yeah, you're on the back end of that privilege.
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When you were making jokes about all the races, if you had only made jokes about white
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men, and even if you just said really vicious things about white men,
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No, if I endorsed Hillary Clinton, I could just like rape someone.
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Harvey Weinstein was in like openly raping people.
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It's like what I just said seems so shocking, but people laugh.
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Good people just laugh because there's so much truth in it that you're like, that's
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Like I was like, and I think Louis CK is an incredible joke writer, but like I'll watch
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And I'm like, the way he's talking about his wife and kids, I'm like, you know, I'm like,
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dude, you know, he's like my, my, my daughter's, I don't even want to say it on your show out
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It seems to be a little, well, that's, that's like the James Gunn thing, right?
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And you think, well, maybe, but there's some weird jokes.
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And now I think he actually might've been right.
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Like when you, when you're debating with him, you're like, whoa.
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Dude, cause I was, I was convinced that he was wrong about it.
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And, and I, I realized he's actually right about it because for, cause he was talking
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about if you know what you're getting into when you hire someone, you got to just eat
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my point was like, no, we have to have standards.
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We can't go down that road of like, we're, we're becoming our enemies.
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If we don't hire a known pedophile to babysit our kids, you know, it's like, no, there's
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And, and it's like, that's going to take a hit out of the business.
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And I know people have said that to me where they're like, your joke isn't funny.
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I'm like, cause you don't understand hyperbole, irony and assumptions.
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Cause lefties are known for their great sense of humor.
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Like I'll, I'll even like describe what the joke is and how it's the opposite of what
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So I don't want to fall down that road and say James Gunn shouldn't do these jokes.
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Well, I don't personally think he should, but he should not be around kids professionally
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He was the first one to cheer when they all got fired for jokes and now it comes back
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And, and it is great because, you know, these guys are, are dying by their own hypocrisy.
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I mean, you're, and, and, and it's like, you just have a happier life.
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Like I would get those like lefty development deals that you don't deserve and all that
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It's like you get all the world and you get nothing, you know?
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I have three specials there, self-produced from the last year and a half.
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And then, um, the PragerU video, watch it and share it.
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I desperately want to beat Dave Rubin because he gets a little cocky about a 6.7 million.
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And where, so you figure, uh, James Gunn has a Twitter, ISIS has a Twitter.
00:35:57.880
Well, this is what, I got kicked off Twitter permanently for an, uh, a joke that if I could
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say at a, at a Catholic preschool, not, not, not quite, but literally nothing.
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And the more time goes on, the more people are like this joke, making fun of David Hogg.
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Well, you know, James Gunn gets to stay on, on Twitter, but you don't.
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And it's like, these guys are on there talking about how Jews are like a disease.
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No, but I'm a, I'm a quarter Jewish, so that kicks in hard.
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And I didn't even find out I was Jewish until I was 20, but I always knew I was up to something.
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That's why I never cut my hair until I was recently.
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Like, he's a genocidal, like, the way he talks about Jews is genocidal.
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But yet, I'm not allowed to be on there because I want my gun rights.
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Like, Facebook and Twitter stocks are just plunging.
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That's why they hate the free market, because nonsense is rewarded with a lack of money.
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And I want everyone to buy the leftist tears mug.
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The only way to get this, by the way, people, because I got to say goodbye to Facebook and
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You can, you're not allowed to have it that way.
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We'll be right back, unfortunately, without Owen.
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For those of you who didn't catch that, I just said goodbye to Owen and he stood up
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That is, Owen is on the other side of height privilege.
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He is not on the good side of height privilege.
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It's like a, like the Tasmanian devil, like it's 10 Tasmanian devils come through as he's
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so funny and he's like got such a fresh perspective.
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It's so good that this guy isn't being like just owned by studios.
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We're running a little late, so I'll try to cover it quickly.
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When people abuse their freedom, when they use their freedom to break the laws, to hurt
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other people, to violate the moral law, then we can kill them and the state can kill
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It's always been the position of the Catholic Church.
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And today, Pope Francis has amended certain aspects of church teaching in the Catechism
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of the Catholic Church to say that the death penalty now is inadmissible.
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The death penalty by civil governments is inadmissible.
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So we'll go into what that means a little bit and some of the thoughts on the health benefits
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So fake Catholic politicians like the Cuomos, for instance.
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The Cuomos, Mario Cuomo, invented this whole, I oppose abortion, but I think it should be
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Well, I'm personally opposed to abortion, but I support abortion.
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And they're trying to have their cake and eat it too.
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And it's absurd because abortion is intrinsically evil.
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Andy Cuomo, his son, the governor of New York, tweets out today, quote, the death penalty
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is morally indefensible, has no place in the 21st century.
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Today, in solidarity with Pontifex and in honor of my father, I will be advancing legislation
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to remove the death penalty from state law once and for all.
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This is the same guy, by the way, Andy Cuomo, who said that if you're not in favor of abortion,
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you're not a New Yorker, you have no place in New York.
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This is a radical lefty and he quotes his church when it's convenient.
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This is the new teaching of the Catholic Catechism.
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The Catechism of the Catholic Church is the book of teachings of the Catholic Church.
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There was a version that came out, I believe, in 1992, is it, from John Paul II, and it
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formerly said that the death penalty in modern society, while not intrinsically evil, would
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be practically non-existent because we have other ways of dealing with criminals.
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It's now changed to recourse to the death penalty on the part of legitimate authority following
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a fair trial was long considered an appropriate response to the gravity of certain crimes and
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unacceptable, albeit extreme, means of safeguarding the common good.
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Today, however, there is an increasing awareness that the dignity of the person is not lost
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even after the commission of very serious crimes.
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In addition, a new understanding has emerged of the significance of penal sanctions imposed
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Lastly, more effective systems have been developed.
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Consequently, the church teaches in light of the gospel that, quote,
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the death penalty is inadmissible because it is an attack on the inviolability and dignity
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You know, because the Pope is not allowed to change doctrine.
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People mistake this frequently because people don't understand papal infallibility.
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That's not the same as saying it's intrinsically evil.
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Inadmissible means not capable of being admitted or conceded or allowed scope for or conceded
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The same divine authority that forbids the killing of a human being establishes certain exceptions,
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as when God authorizes killing by a general law or when he gives an explicit commission
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It is permissible to kill a criminal if this is necessary for the welfare of the whole community.
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Now, look, Pope Benedict, this isn't a total break with Pope Francis.
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There may be legitimate diversity of opinion among Catholics about waging war and applying
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It doesn't mean that now, if you're pro-death penalty, you are not Catholic or something
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But I would like to bring in a little bit of history before we go here on the death penalty
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and the church and the health benefits of capital punishment.
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Between 1814 and 1870, 369 criminals were beheaded in the papal states under the control
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You know, you've got to take care of those criminals.
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Giovanni Battista Bugatti, who was the official papal executioner, used an axe to chop off criminals'
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heads before the guillotine was brought in to be more humane.
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The Pope, between 1814 and 1817, just three years, sanctioned the hanging, drawing, and quartering
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Heinous crimes, particularly heinous crimes, were not treated in this way.
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Instead, those criminals had their heads crushed with the mozzatello mallet.
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That doesn't seem to be quite in keeping with the modern teaching.
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Agatino Bellomo, who was the last to be executed in the papal states, asked Blessed Pius IX for
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Blessed Pius IX responded to him, this is the last person executed there, and said,
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The issue here is that capital punishment protects human rights.
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It protects human beings, human life, and the natural right.
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There is retributive punishment, punishment just for justice's sake.
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So when people are punished harshly for a crime, it discourages others from doing that.
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You know, you can put someone into a rehabilitation center.
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You say, oh, you know, the purpose of putting someone in prison is to rehabilitate them.
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And there is medicinal punishment, medicinal capital punishment, which is that the Samuel Johnson quote,
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when a man knows that he's going to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully.
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When you know that you're going to be killed for your crime, it clarifies the world a little bit.
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If the whole point of the Catholic teaching on capital punishment, excuse me, is that we want to bring people to Christ.
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Well, when you're looking at that guillotine over there, it focuses your mind.
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A more modern example of this, because you can talk about all the papal states and popes chopping off people's heads and all that is very good.
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During the Nuremberg trials of all the Nazi war criminals who slaughtered and genocided whole scores of people,
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Pope Pius XII was so eager for justice that he sent his Jesuit archivist to assist the prosecutors at the Nuremberg trials.
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Pope Pius XII personally told the prosecutor, Robert Jackson, quote,
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Not only do we approve of the trial, but we desire that the guilty be punished as quickly as possible.
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One of the defining features of this pontificate is some confusion.
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There seems to be a lot of confusion on matters of divorce, matters of who can receive the communion,
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matters of capital punishment, matters of church teaching, evolution, where things are going.
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I mean the evolution of the church, not monkeys turning into people.
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There seems to be a lot of confusion, and it would be nice to have some clarity.
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Because the church has had moral clarity on this issue for a very long time.
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And if the confusion persists and suggests that capital punishment is intrinsic evil,
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then first of all, church tradition will be changed.
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But it's really morally unclear, because there's nothing Christian about letting the wicked rape the face of the earth,
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And let's hope that that confusion doesn't persist any longer.
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I told you at the top of the show, when Catholics have trouble with things that are coming out of the Vatican,
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There was a group of clergy who formally accused Pope Francis of heresy.
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But the way that you do it in the Catholic Church is, it's called a filial letter of correction for heresy.
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And like, most Holy Father, we think we may have misunderstood what you were saying.
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So let's hope respectfully we can get some clarity on all of those matters.
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And people don't forget the important medicinal effects of hanging and having your head chopped off.
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In the meantime, you know, we started recording Another Kingdom.
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Get ready for, you've got to binge that first season, so you're ready for season two.
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