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On this episode of The Michael Knowles Show, Michael talks about a rough weekend in politics, including a broadside against Pope Francis and a post by President Trump that offended both Catholics and Protestants. He also talks about birth rates, the Iran crisis, and a new right wing prime minister in Europe.
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Amid tensions over the Iran war, the president launched a broadside against the Pope last night
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and then followed it up with an unfortunate post that offended many Protestants too.
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We will get to the proper relation between church and state.
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I am sorry to say everybody's getting it wrong.
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Then the leading Democrat candidate for California governor goes down in flames.
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And on the other side of the world, a new apparently anti-immigrant right wing prime minister is elected in Europe.
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And both of those things that you think are good are actually terrible news for conservatives.
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After 21 hours of negotiations in Pakistan, no peace deal with the Iranians,
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all of which reminds me of that ancient Chinese curse.
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Welcome back to the show. A little bit of maybe good news by the end of the show,
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which is that we're looking at birth rates now, and there's been a huge divergence.
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Conservative women are having a bunch of kids relative to the general population.
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Liberal women are basically having no kids at all. That might be good news, I guess.
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I remember years ago, Mitch Daniels, when he was about to run for president,
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You can either out-argue them or out-breed them,
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Prayer is not just something we say before dinner
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It's about surrendering control and inviting God to lead.
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Mark's helping us all build a rhythm of daily prayer
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and to make prayer part of the fabric of who you are.
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Because staying prayed up is not about perfection.
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Let this be the Easter that changes everything.
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You get the leading right-wing figure in Europe.
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All the globalists are thrilled about that. The peace negotiations in Iran, J.D. Vance goes over
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to Pakistan, gives it the best effort that I think it is possible to give. No peace deal in Iran.
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Then you have the president offending both Catholics and Protestants right on the heels
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of one another. And the Yankees got swept by the devil race. And I'm just saying politically,
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it was a tough weekend. So I want to start with the least bad news. This is news that many
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conservatives think is good news because a Democrat politician who was the leading Democrat
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to take over California, he went down in flames. I mean, this was the worst political crash out
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that we've seen since Anthony Weiner. And yet even that is actually really pretty bad for Republicans,
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Though it tells you a lot about how efficient the Democrat Party is.
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The news is that Eric Swalwell, remember Eric Swalwell, the former future president?
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He was going to be the leading Democrat for governor of California.
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And it seems that Mr. Swalwell has a little bit of a trouser issue.
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all these women coming out of the woodwork to say, either when I worked for Swalwell,
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he slept with me even though he was married and he pressured me to do this stuff and he did all
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this degenerate sex stuff. Some women going so far as to say, I think he raped me. We'll get
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into those claims as well. I mean, this was just a brutal pile on. And I had been telling you,
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though you know I hate to say I told you so, I'd been telling you this is coming for weeks
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because it started with the attack from Tom Steyer, who's another Democrat running for
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governor of California. That attack came out and said, Eric Swalwell is not qualified to be,
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he's not legally qualified to be the governor of California because he's not a California resident.
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And the California state constitution says you have to be a resident to be governor.
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Swalwell's a resident of Washington, DC. He's not actually a resident of California.
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Looked like there might've been a little fraud there. So I said, look, that's the shot across
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the bow. That's the first signal Swalwell get out of this race from the Democrats, not from the
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Republicans. Then the next shoe to drop was that Swalwell was apparently paying his wife
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out of campaign funds to watch their kids. Maybe that's not illegal. I don't know. I'd have to look
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into the finance regulations. But even if it's not illegal, it's so corrupt. That expose too is
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really being pushed by the Democrats, not by the Republicans. So they're going to chase this guy
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out of the race. If Swalwell had been smart, he would have gotten out after the second shot at
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him. But he didn't get out. Therefore, logic would tell you he might not be the brightest
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bulb in the candelabra. Anyway, this was the political death shot. This was the one all these
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women. I mean, just an avalanche of women coming out saying this guy, he cheated on his wife. He
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was getting drunk all the time. He was pressuring his staff to sleep with him. He was exploiting
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power dynamics all the way up to, I was too drunk to consent and he raped me.
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Now, this takes us back. Many people have short memories in politics. This takes me back at least
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to the Kavanaugh confirmation hearings, where the best that the Democrats had on Kavanaugh
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to try to torpedo him was a sex scandal, quote unquote, from decades earlier when Kavanaugh was
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a teenager, a campaign kicked off by this woman who constantly was contradicting her own story,
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whose best friends were coming out saying this didn't happen. I mean, it was just totally bogus.
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It was the most ridiculous railroading we've probably ever seen of a Supreme Court justice.
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That includes Robert Bork, that includes Clarence Thomas. And Eric Swalwell was one of the Democrats
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leading the charge, the Me Too charge against Brett Kavanaugh saying, we need accountability
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for these men abusing their power and taking advantage of women. Here he is on MSNBC.
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What was important to you about anything that you heard tonight from President Trump speaking
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out at length from Mr. Avenatti, who I believe you just were able to hear, and new reports that
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there are new allegations being probed by the Senate regarding Judge Kavanaugh.
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Good evening, Ari. I saw continued demeaning of victims of sexual assault, people who deserve
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to be heard, who deserve for their allegations to be investigated, and a president who wants
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to just rush this through. He criticized the Senate for even taking this long, Ari. And so
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for Brett Kavanaugh's sake, if he is innocent, I hope tomorrow he opens his statement and says,
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you know what? Bring in all the victims. Allow them to be heard. Allow them to be questioned.
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That will clear his name if he's indeed innocent. And if he's not, for the sake of the credibility
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of the court, I hope that the senators would vote against him.
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how the turntables, my oh my, how the turntables. Is that how the expression goes?
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Swalwell, one of the leaders here, along with, you heard him reference, Michael Avenatti. That
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was the other one. You remember him? He was the man, he was known as the creepy porn lawyer.
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He represented Stormy Daniels. Then it turned out he was a fraudster. He was robbing his own
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porn star client, blind, totally dishonest lawyer. Avenatti went down some years ago.
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Now, Swalwell says these victims deserve to be heard.
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I won't even play you the whole video, but you can see a little bit of it in the B-roll.
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This is Eric Swalwell on what seems like a hotel room bed.
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I don't know, with some kind of hooker looking lady.
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I don't know, with other guys and girls in the room kissing this woman.
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So, you know, we should pray for the family. It's very unfortunate. This guy obviously has no self-control. No surprise there. He's a bit of a doofus, that one. A reminder of one eternal maxim. The male feminists are always the biggest predators. Always. All the time.
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I remember one time when I was in college, this was at the beginning of the Title IX investigations, which actually started at my school.
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And then it kind of spread around the country, this idea that American campuses are rape cultures and women are less safe on Harvard Yard than they are in the back alleys of Botswana.
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It was all these girls talking about the rape culture.
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Some friends and I had a conversation one day with one of our real feminist friends on campus, super lib, hated all of our politics.
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and he said, are you kidding me? You think this is a rape culture? What are you talking about?
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And she said, you know, it's not you guys. It's not the conservatives. It's not the right-wingers
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generally. I mean, everyone's a little irresponsible on college campuses, but he's like,
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I'm not, this issue here is not the conservatives. It's the liberal guys. It's the male feminists.
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They're the ones, the ones who say women need to be empowered and casual sex is empowering.
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And, you know, men should never take any special care of women and chivalry is bogus and ridiculous.
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Come on, girl, let's empower yourself by sleeping with me so that I can just discard you the next
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day. It was plenty of blame to go around, but it was mostly the liberal guys. It was mostly
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the male feminist guys. It's always those male feminist guys. So what was this guy doing?
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I think it was Michael Tracy, the kind of liberal journalist who came out and said,
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look, these girls who are claiming rape, I don't really buy it because some of the staffers who
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were claiming this about Eric Swalwell, you know, they engaged in sexting with him and they had
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long standing sexual relationships with him. And they say, you know, they got drunk one night and
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slept with him, but then they kept hanging out with him and they kept seeing him multiple times.
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And this doesn't really sound like rape. And so this isn't really sexual misconduct
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because it's consenting adults. And the point here is one, the women are saying, well, I was
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too drunk to consent. But even beyond that, I think the reason that you've seen a lot of the
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me too arguments center around this notion that women, even if they seem to consent or not really
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consenting is because we all realize that there is more to misconduct than just consent or lack
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thereof. We all know that. We all know that there are things that ostensibly consenting adults can
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do that are still wrong. We all know that. But the liberal morality tells us we can't admit that.
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The liberal morality tells us that the source and summit of all morality is just consent.
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And that raises legitimate questions about consent. Can people really consent if they're
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drunk? No. Can people really consent if they're underage? We were told that kids could consent
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to transgender therapies and surgeries. But kids can't consent. That's why we have an age of
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consent, which is not for kids. Can people, I'll go further, can people really consent if they're
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addicts? No, we would say no. He couldn't control himself. That's just his condition.
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He has the disease of alcoholism or drug addiction or sex addiction. Could Eric Swalwell really
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consent? Could he control himself? No, he obviously can't control himself. Does that
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let him off the hook, it obviously doesn't let him off the hook. Because there is more to morality
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than consent, and because freedom, this is a point I come back to again and again, freedom is not,
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as the liberals would have it, neutrality and choosing. I could pick this, I could pick that.
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Freedom, rather, is willing. It's the ability to will, to pursue your desires, predicated on
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knowledge, which is why if your will is messed up, like for instance, if you're an addict,
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you can't really consent. And if you're ignorant, you just don't know what you're choosing,
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you also can't really consent. So what's the misconduct here? Well, I think we would at least
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say that a member of Congress has a greater degree of power than his staffers. And a member of
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Congress who's hitting on his staffers, who's asking his staffers to have sex with him,
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even if the staffers say they want to go along with it, that's misconduct.
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That's not appropriate. That would be disqualifying.
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Cheating on your wife, probably not appropriate, right? Probably that counts as misconduct.
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Doing this for years and years and years. While you are a hypocrite on television,
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going after Brett Kavanaugh for nothing, not good. Misconduct. Hypocrisy is the only
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other slight caveat to liberal morality. It's all about consent, but hypocrisy is a big point there
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too. This is why Norm MacDonald, he had this great bit, it's kind of a sad story with Bill Cosby
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doing all the creepy sex stuff. And he said, you know, someone told me that the worst part about
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the Cosby scenario is the hypocrisy. But I don't think that's the worst part. I think it's the
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raping. I think hypocrisy, the raping, the scheming, the drugging, hypocrisy is pretty low down on the
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is. So all weekend, people say, is Swalwell going to drop out? Is he not going to drop out?
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Republicans jumping on, making fun of Swalwell. I was making fun of Swalwell. Everybody was doing
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to enroll for free. Last night, 7.36 p.m., Eric Swalwell posts, I am suspending my campaign for
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governor. Oh man, they got him. The illegal residency that he was, he was going to just
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knuckle through it, white knuckle through it. Then the payouts to his wife from the campaign,
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very corrupt. He was going to get through this one. They got him. I said it to sweet little Lisa
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after like the third woman came out. I said, they got him. They got him dead to right. They
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already had him. I'm suspending my campaign for governor to my family, staff, friends,
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and supporters, I am deeply sorry for mistakes in judgment I've made in my past. In my past,
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by the way, not being 20, 30, 40 years ago, my past in this case being like yesterday.
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And then he concludes, I will fight the serious, false allegations that have been made.
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But that's my fight, not a campaign's. In other words, let me translate that for you.
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I'm dropping out of the governor's race. I'm deeply sorry for all the things I didn't do.
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What a joke. What a joke. This goofball at the end of his political career
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can't even make a coherent statement. This guy, he's been in politics his whole life.
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He's accomplished precisely nothing. He's humiliated himself. He's humiliated his family
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and friends. He's out, and he still doesn't understand the basics of logic or the English
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language. Now, he gives himself a little out. I should be fair. He says, I will fight the serious
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false allegations that have been made. He doesn't say all of the allegations are false.
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He doesn't say I will fight all of these allegations. He says, I'll fight the serious
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false allegations that have been made. All of the allegations, it would seem, are true.
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there's a lot of evidence for all of them he slept with his staff he cheated on his wife he hung out
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in hotel rooms with hookers or whatever there's a video that appears to show that but i don't know
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maybe maybe at some point someone called swalwell late for dinner i don't know and maybe at some
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point they said swalwell was wearing a blue shirt he was really wearing a white shirt and that so
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he could there could be a minor false allegation there but pathetic really pathetic now why is he
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quitting in this way. I'm quitting. I'm really sorry for all the things that you've now seen,
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not only alleged, but on video, but I didn't actually do them.
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The reason he's quitting in this way, and the reason this is bad for Republicans,
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is because he's going to quit the race for governor. He says, look, I'm totally unqualified
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to be governor. I'm unfit as a matter of morality and my character. I do not deserve
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the public trust to be governor, but I will remain in Congress. Look, I know that Congress
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doesn't have the best reputation right now or ever, really. But how is it that you do not have
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the character for the public to trust you to be governor, but you're totally fine to remain in
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Congress? Well, I'll tell you why. Because it would be very bad for the Democrats to kick
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Swalwell out of Congress, so they're going to try to avoid doing it. But it's very good for Democrats
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for him to drop out of the governor's race. And you know why? You know what this is really
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all about. Let me see. A lot of headlines here today to pick through. Here it is.
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This from April 9th. It's from governing.com, but it's backed up in a lot of other polls and
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outlets. Top three candidates in the California governor's race. You got two Republicans up there.
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Polls show some Democrats in a large primary field gaining support, but if the election were
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held today, two Republicans would likely advance to the runoffs, shutting Democrats out. So there's
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so many Democrats running for California governor that they're splitting up the Democrat vote.
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Also, Democrats under Gavin Newsom have so destroyed California that even in California,
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voters are looking to Republicans right now. And because of the way the California electoral
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system works, if the race were held right now, a Republican would win. That's what this is about.
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That's all that this is about. This has nothing to do with sexual misconduct.
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This has everything to do with Democrats losing power. So the Democrats came in and they said,
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sorry, Swalwell, you're out. People have known, I was talking to some friends of mine in Congress,
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people have known these stories about Swalwell forever. In fact, you had some Democrats as they
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were pulling their endorsements from him over the weekend saying, you know, I knew about these
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rumors and I asked Swalwell about it. I said, do you think this is going to hurt your chances at
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governor. He said, no, it's no big deal. Don't worry. We'll get through them. And he would have
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gotten through. If the top two guys in the California governor polls right now were not
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Republicans, not one Democrat would have said peep about this. This guy would be governor of
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California. This is entirely, entirely about power. So the only thing Republicans can do now
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is try to force a vote to kick Swalwell out of Congress. If he doesn't have the integrity,
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which he obviously doesn't, to resign himself, you at least have to shame, not even him,
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he is incapable of shame, but the other Democrats. You at least have to put them in a bad spot
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in Congress and make them vote to keep Swalwell in Congress. Now, again, it's California.
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So if they boot out Swalwell, they'll just send another Democrat in there.
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This is something they're willing to deal with.
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It's the same reason why the Democrats were fine getting rid of Al Franken.
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Al Franken had this scandal where he was shown taking a picture pretending to grab a girl's boobs.
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And apparently he got a little grab happy in some photo lines.
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And the Democrats say, see, this is proof we police our own party.
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They just booted him out because they knew they could easily replace him with another Democrat.
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It'd be simple and they wouldn't lose any power.
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When push comes to shove, though, when it comes to the real tough races,
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when it comes to Bill Clinton, greatest example,
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when it comes to impeaching Bill Clinton for not only sexual misconduct,
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but perjuring himself for the same misconduct that Eric Swalwell seems to have engaged in,
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but also perjuring himself, breaking the law, the Democrats close ranks.
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It's strictly about power, which is so amazing.
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You have this leading candidate for a Democrat governor of California, and he was taken out
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entirely by Democrats because he wasn't a strong enough candidate.
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So now you're going to get someone like Katie Porter or some other Democrat to come up there
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to maybe pose a greater challenge, consolidate the field, take those Swalwell votes such that
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the Republicans are not going to win in California.
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I mean, I'm tempted to start a Republicans for Swalwell campaign right now.
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I know I can't bring myself to do it and still be able to keep my breakfast down.
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But not every time a Democrat goes down is that a win for Republicans.
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In fact, the whole thing was coordinated by Democrats.
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Now, you're seeing a similar thing happen in Hungary.
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Hungary, which was the exemplar, the last remaining bastion of conservatism
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The one guy who stood up to Brussels and said, we are not taking the migrants in.
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We're not going to erase our cultural patrimony.
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We're not going to ruin our society by flooding it with foreigners who don't want to assimilate.
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And he went down in flames in the election last night.
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And some people, some unfortunately benighted, ignorant people on the right think that it's a
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good thing because they say the candidate who beat him, he's actually even more right wing
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than Viktor Orban, the ousted prime minister. We'll get to that in a second, folks. You've
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at takelean.com. Orban, the great conservative right-wing leader of Hungary, has gone down.
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The guy who beat him is this guy, Peter Magyar. Magyar, M-A-G-Y-A-R. Magyar is the name of the
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Hungarian language. It's like a name of Hungary. His name is basically Peter Hungary. And this guy
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this guy wins. And he's a center right candidate. But some are now arguing he's even more right
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wing than Orban. So we shouldn't be upset about losing Orban. Because yeah, it's too bad. A guy
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who's a real ally of American conservatives. So much so that the vice president just flew over
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to help campaign for him. So much so that President Trump endorsed him. So much so that
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a lot of American conservatives have gone there to help support Hungarian conservatism. Myself
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included. I've been to Hungary three times in the last three years, I think. Twice in one year.
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I wanted to get back there this year. Unfortunately, I couldn't make the schedule work.
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He goes down and people are saying, no, don't worry. The new guy who took over,
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he's even more right wing. The only reason they ousted Orban is because he's corrupt.
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I would just say, guys, please try to recognize that politics is not debate club. This is one
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of my big problems. This is one of my big problems with the way some of the wonks and the academic
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people in politics debate. This is one of my big problems with the podcast war.
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This is one of my big problems with how people are reacting to these
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election results and campaign collapses. Politics is not just about ideology. Politics
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is not debate club. I want to just show you my evidence here. Here are the people celebrating
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Orban losing to the supposedly far-right anti-immigration candidate in Hungary,
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The end of Viktor Orban's autocratic regime is a victory not just for Hungary,
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but for people who value democracy around the world.
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Congratulations to Tiza, the party that won, to incoming leader Peter Magyar, and to Hungarians
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They've been saying that Orban is a dictator, he's an autocrat, he destroyed democracy for
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have seen it firsthand. And now the whole world has seen it firsthand because he lost an election
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and he conceded power immediately. Small consolation for us is, see, we were right.
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You called us fascists, but we're not really fascists. The libs don't care. They level these
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accusations totally cynically. But the question you got to ask yourself, why, if a far right-wing
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anti-immigration candidate just won in Hungary, why is Hillary Clinton so happy about it?
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Alex Soros, who's now running the Soros organization, son of George Soros.
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The people of Hungary have taken back their country, a resounding rejection of entrenched
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corruption of foreign interference. Gavin Newsom, J.D. Vance. I love also Alex Soros is saying,
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hey, we ousted Orban in Hungary. Thank goodness there is no foreign interference.
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Hillary Clinton and I and Barack Obama and Gavin Newsom and the EU, we all ousted the
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Hungarian leader. Thank goodness there's no more foreign interference. Give me a break.
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Gavin Newsom, J.D. Vance proves he's a lightweight. Congratulations to the people at White House.
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Newsom is trying to attack J.D. because J.D. is the heir apparent to the Trumpism and to the
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Republican Party. So Newsom wants to be president. He realizes J.D. is the toughest guy in the race.
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He's most likely going to be the nominee. I'm just going to use any excuse to attack J.D.
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Congratulations to the people of Hungary. Democracy, free press, and human rights win.
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There's hope. Tim Walz, that old knucklehead, former vice presidential candidate for the Dems, a big win for freedom and democracy.
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The tides are turning. Barack Obama, the victory of the opposition in Hungary yesterday, like the Polish election in 2023, is a victory for democracy, not just in Europe, but around the world.
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Most of all, it's a testament to the resilience and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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if orban's loss in hungary is is secretly really good for the right
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how come the entire global left the very worst elements of the global left
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are unanimously celebrating it i don't it doesn't take a phd in political science
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doesn't take a a dissertation on machiavelli and count von metternich to know this is a loss for
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conservatives. Major loss. Now, their rejoinder is, well, no, this is actually just about corruption.
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See, Orban was corrupt, and this new guy, he's not corrupt. Yeah, okay. We're talking about
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Central and Eastern Europe, okay? Corruption is just kind of part of the game, all right?
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We're talking about former Soviet bloc countries. Corruption is just kind of part of the game here.
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But you're telling me, hold on, you're telling me that the global left is excited about a truly
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anti-immigration, right-wing, stalwart, conservative, new prime minister,
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because they're so concerned about corruption? Hillary Clinton, that vaunted enemy of corruption,
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she's just so excited. Oh, thank goodness, corruption lost today. If there's one thing
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Hillary hates, it's corruption, wouldn't you say? Obama, Newsom, Brussels, the Soros family.
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no i'd love to be proven wrong i hope i hope that this guy peter major in hungary can resist
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brussels but if i were a gambler man i would say probably not okay speaking of tough news for the
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global right generally especially the american right president trump last night he pope posted
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he he launched this broadside against the pope i won't read the whole thing because it was very
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very long. But here's the first part. Pope Leo is weak on crime and terrible for foreign policy.
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So right off the top. Foreign policy, one can debate. What does it mean that the Pope is weak
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on crime? There used to be a Vatican executioner who executed some 500 criminals back when the
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papacy controlled substantial territory called the papal states. We haven't had that in like 150
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years or more. So what does it mean weak on crime? There is a Vatican penitentiary because it is a
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city state, but I don't, what does it mean for the Pope to be weak on crime? You can say foreign
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policy. Okay. There's this disagreement. This, this tweet comes in the context of a disagreement
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between the president and the Pope on the Iran war, the crime thing. I don't really get that.
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Then, terrible for foreign policy. He talks about fear of the Trump administration,
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but he doesn't mention the fear that the Catholic Church and all other Christian
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organizations had during COVID when they were arresting priests, ministers. Hold on,
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the Catholic Church was arresting priests? No, I think probably what the president means here is
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when the liberal politicians, the secular authority was arresting priests and a lot
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of Christians rolled over for COVID lockdowns. That's true. Not sure the church exactly rolled
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over for the arresting of priests. But sure, not just the Catholic church, but Christians broadly
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did go along with the COVID lockdowns in a way that I didn't like, certainly. Okay.
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So I see that. He goes, I like his brother, Lewis. The Pope's brother, Lewis, is apparently
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more right-wing. I like Lewis much better than I like him because Lewis is all MAGA. He gets it.
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Leo doesn't. I don't want a Pope who thinks it's okay for Iran to have a nuclear weapon.
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So this is really what it's about. It's not about crime. It's not about COVID. This is about Iran.
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a country that was sending massive amounts of drugs in here.
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The pope apparently met with this liberal advisor to Obama.
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And this pope should focus on being a great pope,
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And more importantly, it's hurting the Catholic Church.
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Okay. Okay. Not great. Don't love this. Don't love this at all. One in five Americans is Catholic.
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One in five Americans is Catholic. And there are plenty of non-Catholics who don't like seeing
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attacks on the Pope. One in five Americans is Catholic. The Catholic Church is the largest
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single Christian denomination in the United States, to use the modern terms. President
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Trump sends out the post, and he also clarifies to the reporters what he means.
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I don't think he's doing a very good job. He likes crime, I guess. He hit us. Think of it.
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He's worried about fear. What about the fear when the ministers and the priests and all of those
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great people that were arrested during COVID, and in many cases, they're outside 10 feet apart,
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and they were arrested so we don't like it we don't like a pope that's going to say that it's
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okay to have a nuclear weapon we don't want a pope that says crime is okay in our cities
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i don't like it i'm not a big fan of pope leo okay so i don't like the pope now you'll remember
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though some of you will remember some of you were too young in the early days of the iraq war one
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of the last things that pope john paul ii did was speak out against the iraq war and you didn't see
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President Bush say, I don't like the Pope, which I hold is spiritually a very bad thing to do.
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But even politically, politically, I think it's not a good thing to do. And I assume someone has
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told this to the president already. But if not, I'm as bona fide a Trump supporter as ever there
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was. I have voted for Trump in every presidential election that he's run in. And I really like the
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guy and I love all the good that he's done. Spiritually, I think this is bad. And politically,
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this is not good. I get it. I get it because there's a tension that goes not just through
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the Trump era or the Bush era, but goes all the way back to antiquity between the Pope and the
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emperor. There's a tension that goes back between the spiritual authority and the secular authority
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all the way back to the beginning of our civilization. But I don't think this is very
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helpful. So the Pope himself has now responded to reporters on the papal airplane.
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I will not enter into debate. I think the things that I say are certainly not meant as a test on
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anyone. And the message of the gospel is very clear, blessed are the peacemakers.
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I will not shy away from announcing the message of the gospel, of inviting all people to look for
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ways of building bridges for peace and reconciliation, of looking for ways to avoid war anytime that's
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possible. To put my message on the same plane as what the president has attempted to do
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here, I think, is not understanding what the message of the gospel is. And I'm sorry to
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hear that but but i will continue on what i believe is the mission of the church in the
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that's the key that's the key phrase here to put my message on the same plane is not a good
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understanding that's the key phrase and and this gets back to this perennial tension between the
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secular ruler and the spiritual ruler i mean let's not forget in the middle ages you had popes and
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emperors fighting wars against each other. So actually, by historical standards, this is
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relatively tame. But this idea that there are different planes here, this, I think, is the key.
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And I think the Pope's statement here was very effective. And the way to understand this conflict
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and the way, I think, to move forward in a good way requires us to reacquaint ourselves with how
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this debate has been settled going back to the fifth century. We'll get to that, and then we'll
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My favorite, I have two favorite comments from Friday.
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your sane washing is truly brilliant. Thank you. I really appreciate that. I like that phrase,
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sane washing. There's brainwashing. That's what you get on the other shows. That's what you get
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from governments. But there's sane washing. That's what I like to do. And there's a related
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comment. It's kind of funny, people, but I don't even remember what this is directly in response
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to. But it does get to something I try to do, which is from A Studios 9930 says, well done,
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Knowles, your real one, most logical coverage over this dumb mess. I don't even know what
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that's in response to, but that's what I try to do. And folks, sometimes I think it hurts my
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ratings because the temptation in political media, especially in podcasting, is to take the most
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extreme stance, is to take the most provocative extreme stance. I find a lot of podcasters what
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they do. They often, sometimes they'll just say totally crazy things, but sometimes they'll say
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relatively moderate things, but they'll say them in the most provocative, offensive way possible.
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Trying to offer you a constructive way forward.
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it's an insight of the conservatives is that it's easier to destroy than to build
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so often people just want to destroy we've all done it we all have those videos so and so destroys
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so and so but we want to build we want to build especially when we're in power so how do we think
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about this fight between the pope and the president two planes here i go back to my old
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buddy pope galassius the first you know i mean hardly a day goes by we don't talk about pope
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Galatius. He writes a letter in AD 494 to Emperor Anastasius, the Byzantine emperor.
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And he opens the letter. He says, hey, I'm sorry, you seem to be offended that I didn't send you
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greetings. He opens up. He says, I heard you're offended. I heard you're upset with me, Emperor.
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Mr. President, Mr. President, Emperor, I heard you're offended with me because I wasn't flattering
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enough or I wasn't courteous enough or something. But hey, the only reason that I didn't send you
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a letter, the reason I didn't call is because you were upset with me. So I didn't want to
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further annoy you or anything like that. But I'm going to say what I'm going to say, and you're
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going to say what you're going to say. And then here's what he says, verbatim. I pray your piety
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not to judge my duty toward the divine plan as arrogance. Far be it from the Roman prince,
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I beg, that he judge the truth that he senses in his heart to be an injury. This is the key.
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For there are two, O Emperor Augustus, by which the world is principally ruled,
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the sacred authority of pontiffs and the royal power, the spiritual authority and the temporal
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power, among which how much heavier is the burden of priests such that they will have to render an
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account to the Lord at the time of judgment, even for the very kings. He says there are two powers
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in the world, the spiritual authority and the temporal power, and they're distinct. But the
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greater weight lies with the spiritual authority because the Pope is responsible for the president
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in a way that the president is not responsible for the Pope. This is this longstanding debate.
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Now, fast forward to the Middle Ages. You have Dante. Truly, hardly a show goes by. I don't
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talk about Dante. Dante is fighting the Pope. He's a member of the pro-Pope party. There were
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the Guelphs and the Ghibellines. The Guelphs are pro-Pope. The Ghibellines are pro-Emperor. Dante
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is part of the pro-pope party, but the pro-pope party divides into factions, the black welfs and
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the white welfs. Dante is part of the more favorable to the emperor side of the pro-pope
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party. He's kind of like a medieval rhino. Dante there, even as he is fighting, he wants to
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diminish the temporal power of the pope. He wants to increase the temporal power of the emperor.
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He'd be inclined to take the president's side over the pope's side. He writes this in his treatise
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about how the Pope is wrong and the Emperor needs more power. He concludes it with this line,
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important for us to keep in mind. Let Caesar honor Peter as a firstborn son should honor his father
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so that refulgent with the light of paternal grace, he may illumine with greater radiance
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the earthly sphere over which he has been set by him, God, who alone is ruler of all things,
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spiritual and temporal. Even Dante is saying, hey, Pope, lay off. Hey, Emperor, you should get
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a lot more power. But even there he says, but Emperor, you should be respectful toward the
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Pope. You should allow the spiritual authority to illumine the temporal authority, which is
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distinct. I think the issue with the president's commentary here is less the substance and more
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the tone. It's actually, I hate to sound like a lib or like a woman, but you know, like sometimes
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like a liberal woman, really. It's not what you said, it's how you said it. But really here,
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the tone is the key. Because reasonable minds can disagree over foreign policy. Reasonable
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minds can disagree over certain political judgments. The president does have the politics
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as his lane, but it's the tone. The temporal authority, while distinct, should be respectful
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of the spiritual authority. As we are respectful of our fathers, you don't always have to agree
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with your father, like your dad, your regular dad. You don't always have to agree with him.
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Sometimes you do. In certain limited circumstances, you do have to do what your father says.
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But a lot of the time, you don't have to do what he says.
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You're your own man, especially when you're, but you always have to be respectful toward him.
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And that's how we feel with the spiritual authority.
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Some people are saying, well, look, even Catholics are saying, well, the Pope is only infallible
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on certain matters of faith and morals defined through a definitive act ex cathedra.
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And so you don't have to listen to the Pope on anything else.
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because some people basically want to say the president should do politics and the pope should
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do religion and never the twain shall meet that's not going to cut it guys that's a cheap way out
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but it's not going to cut it there's a reason this issue has been going on since the fifth century
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at least it's not going to cut it because you can't do politics the president can't do politics
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without recourse to religion because you can't do politics without laws and you can't do laws
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without morality and you can't do morality without religion so the president has to engage in
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religion, even if he doesn't want to admit it. This president, I think, does want to admit it.
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This president is openly pro-religious most of the time, the vast majority of the time.
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Same with the Pope. You can't just say, hey, Pope, just do religion, don't do politics,
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because the Pope has to shepherd a flock that lives in the world. So the Pope necessarily
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has to do politics. Even if you're not Catholic, you don't care about the Pope.
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Your pastor has to do politics. Whoever your spiritual guidance comes from,
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that guy has to do politics to some degree. There is overlap. There is a relation between the two.
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And so we want the two to work together, each respecting the legitimate prerogatives of the
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other, but cooperating. That's how it's got to work. It's really the tone. You can say,
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you can say pope i respectfully disagree with you here but those those are the two planes that we're
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talking about okay the pope before we get to cabot the po the the line that i think that
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offended not only the catholics but the protestants as well is this the post that followed
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immediately after the post post the pope post sally sold seashells by the seashore it's very
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difficult to say all those words in a row the president posts this picture of it it's a meme
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It's like an art meme of him. It appears to be as Jesus holding a divine light, whether that's
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the blessed sacrament or whether that's just a divine light in clothing that is typical of Christ
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in artistic depictions, putting his hand on an ailing man, healing him with these angels or
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demons or celestial beings coming out of the clouds with the American flag. And it's obviously
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kind of trolly. What I think Trump is trying to say here is, look, I'm healing the country. I'm
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really great for the country. And I think even further, he's trying to say, I've been really
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good for Christians. Joe Biden locked up Christians, locked up pro-life Catholic
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grannies, and I pardoned them, and I let them out, and I overruled Roe v. Wade, and I've been
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good for religious liberty. I'm good. What's the matter with you Christians? What more do you want
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from me? I think that's what he's trying to say. But the post is sacrilegious. It just is. It's
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just inescapable. It's just a sacrilegious post. To put oneself in the position of Christ is just
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sacrilegious. It just, I don't think that was the intention exactly. I don't think this was
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thought out for all that long. I think it was a meme. And so I would say with all the grace that
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we can give and all the charity with which we can speak, it is a fact that in an irreverent age,
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sometimes people don't know what taboos are legit and what taboos are nonsense,
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what taboos are woke shibboleths that should be made fun of in that irreverent age we just you
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know sometimes comedians they tell a joke that's a little out of line and i would say in this case
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for both spiritual reasons and political reasons i'm sure someone's already told the president
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this but if not the post should come down simple as i think i think i could go further and say
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I think it would benefit the president spiritually and politically to just take it down. It's okay.
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And we can remember that he's been very good at promoting Christian causes against the godless
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left that wants to destroy the church. But sometimes people make mistakes. Even a guy
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who's right 99.7% of the time politically, sometimes people make mistakes. I think it
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should probably definitely come down. Okay. There's so much more I want to get to. There's
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a guy who went viral for saying religion stole his sexual prime. He's really upset. He got married
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young, then he divorced, and now he's upset that he didn't go to orgies or something in his 20s.
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I want to get to that because it's just, it's the most, oh my goodness, it's the most millennial
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2026 complaint I've ever heard in my entire life. I also want to get to the left wanting to kill us
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all. This basically admitted by Ezra Klein in the New York Times. I also want to get, I do have to
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get, well, I can cover this story quickly. They sent the vice president, last best hope to go get
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a deal with the Iranians in Pakistan. Just didn't happen. We've been trying to get a deal with the
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Iranians for 47 years. It hasn't worked out. So the Iran war continues on really, really tough
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because it means that there's a very good chance that the United States will either have to lose
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stature or invade Iran, neither of which people really want to do so. As we said, when I was
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sitting with Cabot on the day the Iran war started, I said, this is the highest stakes
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action the president's ever undertaken. You know, had I been on the national security council,
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I would have argued against it as I'd been arguing against it, but I see the good that
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could be done. I see what the good that president Trump is aiming at. If, if this works, it'll be
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the greatest stroke of grand strategy since the end of the cold war. If it doesn't work,
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this is the greatest danger that Trump's presidency has ever had. I think that's what
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we're seeing out of Pakistan. But speaking of Cabot, we'll have to get to all those things
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tomorrow because I want to bring Cabot on right now to talk about his new show and some actual
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good news. A little sliver of good news in a rough news day. Cabot, excellent to see you.
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You scared me a bit. You said, we're going to get to Cabot. And then you said, we're going to talk
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to a millennial who's mad that religion stole a sexual prime. And I thought, that's not what I'm
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ready to talk about. I'm not ready. Yeah, that's good. At least six more months before you're
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willing to go into that story. Absolutely. Of course. Now, actually, what you are talking
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about from your beautiful set of the new show, Wired in Live, is that the conservatives are,
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if not having more sex, they're at least having much better sex and doubtless more fruitful sex
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than the liberals. Are we going to win by outbreeding the left? We are, Michael. That is
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the pace that we're on right now. And first, I have to get the promo out of the way. Like you
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said, Wired in Live, the Daily Wire is doing a live news show Monday through Thursday, 4 p.m.
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to 5 p.m. Eastern time. Tune in if you're saying, hey, I wish there was more live coverage,
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happening when I'm driving home from work. So tune in every day at this beautiful set. But
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beautiful set, and also let's talk about beautiful sex, the kind that produces babies.
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There is a study that came out from the University of Chicago showing how many more babies conservative
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women are having than their liberal counterparts. So if you look back to 1980, conservative women
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before they hit the age of 35, 65% had had a baby. For liberals, it was 61%. So libs and
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conservatives. They're both having babies at about the same rate. Jump to 2010. The conservative
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women by 35, 67% had had babies. For liberals, it had trickled down to 51%. Today, Michael,
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71% of conservative women have had a baby by the age of 35. For liberals, it's 40%. So the trend
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is going in completely different directions. And for what this means for the future, if this
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current rate holds, by the year 2100, by the end of this century, that's not that far away,
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if the current rate holds, 80% of babies in America will be born to conservative women.
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And I think a lot of us wonder, like, why? Why is the left trying so hard to dominate what's
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being taught in schools? A big part of it, I think, is that, hey, they're not having enough
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kids to influence with their worldview at home, so they have to start doing this to our kids.
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And also, this plays, I think, into immigration policy, where they're saying, hey,
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we're not raising our own children. So let's just bring in these third world masses that we can
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influence by giving endless free taxes, free welfare, whatever it is. And so I think that
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it kind of explains a lot of their policies when you look at, oh, they're not having kids. And all
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of this anti-baby rhetoric and all of this thing about, hey, we're going to give people the right
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to not be mothers by killing their babies. Yeah, that actually has an impact on the amount of
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babies being born. You see this explicitly. The teachers unions will come out and say,
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your kids are our kids. When they go to school, they're our kids. Hillary Clinton, it takes a
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village. A true enough maxim in itself, what she meant by that is we're going to raise your kids.
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Now bring me that chart again. This is too happy a story that conservatives are having all these
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kids and liberals aren't having kids. So I want to just look at the numbers here and make this sad
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again. I guess that's kind of the theme of the show today is some apparently good news is actually
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kind of bad. I look at this. Okay. So, the mean children by ideology, 0.87 for the liberal women.
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But for the conservative women, it's only 1.67. So, they're both well below replacement rate.
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Replacement rate is what, 2.1? Yep. And you want it to be 3, 4, 5. You know what? I want it to be
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like 10, 11, 12 kids per family. Both well below replacement rate. So, to your point, Cabot,
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if the libs do succeed at winning the elections and flooding the country with illegals and
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giving amnesty to the illegals here. They're going to reshape the demographics of the country
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anyway. It doesn't matter if the conservative women start having six kids each. And then to
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your point on education, you think, all right, well, that means that the libs are going to
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redouble their efforts. I mean, how many conservative families do you know where
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one or all of the kids goes woke? Yeah. That is the other big issue here is
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the, we do know that, and you feel like it's studies anywhere from like 30 to 50%
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of political ideology can be explained from heritability. So there is a genetic aspect here
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where people are more predisposed to the political views of their parents. But of course, when you
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see the domination of the left in all of our institutions, social media, Hollywood, and the
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big one education, yeah, you've got to make sure that you're not just having kids, but you're
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making sure that they stay conservative. And I want to also get to one of the responses from
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the left to this, because they look at this and they say, well, number one, well, that's no
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problem. Women are more free and they're tied down by childbirth. And the other thing that the
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left says is, well, that's because liberal women are more educated and more successful professionally
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and more educated women. They just have fewer kids. They're so smart. They're going to go
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extinct. Yeah, real geniuses there. If you dig into the numbers and you look at college-educated
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women, college-educated conservative women are still twice as likely to have kids. Women in the
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workforce are still twice as likely conservatives to have kids. And if you look at the study,
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actually broke down IQ based on vocabulary, which is a good marker for that. High IQ conservative
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women are three times as likely as high IQ liberal women to have children by the age of 35.
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And by the way, I think they're more pulchritudinous too.
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Yes, that word that you just said, I think that I agree with that word that you just said, Michael.
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We don't use words like that on Wired and Live. We're much more accessible. If you watch Michael
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just so that your friends see you watching Michael, but you're not actually understanding
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a lot of what he's saying. Come to my show, The Everyman's Show, Wired In Live, because we're for
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the people, and we don't smoke cigars on our set. We just have good old-fashioned conversations.
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That's beautiful. You know what? Yeah, the other reason they do it, the other reason some of these
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people watch the show is they accidentally think they're tuning into Rachel Maddow, who is one of
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those liberal women, actually, and I don't think has kids. I'm actually not totally sure about that.
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your kids against the leftism that is going to be redoubled the minute they get to schools.
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Cabot, when and where can people see Wired in live?
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4 p.m. Eastern Time, Monday through Thursday. You got to go to dailywire.com, though, to watch it.
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That's the only place where we're going out. So dailywire.com, become a subscriber,
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and you can jump in the chat every episode. I get to live questions at the end. It's a lot of fun,
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but 4 to 5 p.m., Monday through Thursday. It pains me to say it. It takes a big,
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handsome man to say something that pains him so much. It's an excellent show,