The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1954 - Democrats Try To Drive A Wedge Between Trump & Catholics

00:00:00.000 As the Iran war rounds out its sixth week, is the president preparing to make war on Cuba?

00:00:06.340 As the Pope criticizes President Trump for the war on Iran, 0.92

00:00:10.100 is the Pope also refusing to call out the war that Islamists make on Christians?

00:00:16.240 I've been reading all that kind of stuff in the media. 0.62

00:00:18.880 And then in the most important war of all, the war between the sexes,

00:00:23.120 A new report out of the UK says that it is women who are the actual aggressors.

00:00:30.140 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:00:30.800 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:50.460 Welcome back to the show.

00:00:51.780 they always used to say that there would never be a war between the sexes because everyone was

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00:02:44.980 Are we about to make war on Cuba? 0.94

00:02:47.660 We're still at war in Iran.

00:02:49.880 We wrapped up that war in Venezuela pretty quick.

00:02:53.180 That might have given us all a little bit too much confidence

00:02:56.800 because the war in Venezuela took 88 minutes beginning to end.

00:03:01.800 Now we're rounding out the sixth week.

00:03:04.140 We do recall President Trump said he estimated the war would take four to six weeks.

00:03:08.360 So I said, okay, it's only going to be during the sixth week that I start to get a little concerned.

00:03:12.740 Well, now here we are.

00:03:13.540 We're at the end of the sixth week.

00:03:14.580 And there are leaks coming out of the Pentagon, according to USA Today exclusive, that we're already planning to make war on Cuba.

00:03:24.680 So, all right, what's the reporting?

00:03:26.840 Pentagon ramps up planning for possible military ops in Cuba.

00:03:29.840 two sources familiar with the order spoke to USA Today on condition of anonymity because they're

00:03:36.500 not authorized to speak to the media. The directives appear to be an escalation of

00:03:40.220 recent tensions between the US and Cuba that began in January when the Trump administration

00:03:44.180 curved oil shipments to Cuba as part of a broader campaign to force sweeping political changes on

00:03:48.840 the communist run island. Okay, is this real? Are these leaks real? What do the leaks mean?

00:03:54.300 You can never just take reporting on anonymous leaks at face value because they can mean one of two things.

00:04:01.360 They can either mean that there are people within an administration who are trying to stop the administration from doing something.

00:04:07.920 So they're trying to leak that information out there in order to create a public pressure campaign to persuade the administration not to do what it wants to do.

00:04:14.980 Could be the case, although when it comes to President Trump, Trump really hates leaks and Trump loves to double down.

00:04:21.860 So much more so than other presidents, it would seem to me that leaks might undermine what the leakers would want.

00:04:29.680 In other words, by leaking this kind of information, it could force President Trump to double down on whatever he wanted to do.

00:04:37.140 In this case, ostensibly military action in Cuba.

00:04:39.620 That's one reason for this kind of reporting.

00:04:43.220 The other is the administration wants this out there.

00:04:47.560 The other suggestion is that these anonymous leakers are feeding this at the behest of the

00:04:53.340 administration, at the behest of the president, in order to create a news story, in order to

00:04:58.200 get something else. And what is that something else that the administration would want to get?

00:05:03.860 Look at the situation in Cuba. Cuba is in crisis. Cuba has been in varying degrees of crisis

00:05:10.580 since the early 60s, but Cuba is really in crisis now. Cuba is only getting 40% of the

00:05:17.520 oil that it requires every single day. Cuba was getting its oil from Venezuela. Maduro was a big

00:05:22.640 backer of the Cuban regime. The Cubans were sending mercenaries to Venezuela. That's why

00:05:27.140 in the U.S. strike on Venezuela, a lot of the soldiers that were killed were not Venezuelan,

00:05:30.580 they were Cuban. Now, 60% of Cuba's oil is gone. Cuba's only got 40% of its oil,

00:05:38.000 which means that there are power outages for 12 to 15 hours a day. On top of that,

00:05:43.460 the Cuban economy has not been great in over half a century, now the Cuban peso is collapsing.

00:05:48.640 There are two kinds of currencies in Cuba. I know a little bit about Cuba,

00:05:51.640 really just because I'm a cigar man. And I did visit Cuba during that brief period when it was

00:05:55.540 really easy to travel to Cuba. Took a nice photo, actually wearing a MAGA hat while smoking a cigar

00:06:01.300 in the Revolution Square in front of a monument to Che Guevara. Anyway, there are two kinds of

00:06:07.620 currencies in Cuba. There's the Cuban convertible peso, the CUC, which is what tourists use. They

00:06:15.740 go there. It's a little stronger. It's pegged to the dollar. And it's another way to extort

00:06:20.200 money out of Americans when they do make it there. But there's the Cuban money that the Cubans 0.98

00:06:24.920 actually use, the CUP. That is in freefall. That has really, really collapsed. So the Cuban economy,

00:06:31.840 much, much worse, even than it was, and it was already very weak. And then since 2021,

00:06:36.800 one, a million Cubans have fled the country. So starting about five years ago, it became much 0.91

00:06:42.460 easier for Cubans to leave. Previously, Cuba was kind of like a prison island. You couldn't get

00:06:46.860 out. So you had these desperate Cubans who would try to swim over 90 miles to Florida on a door 1.00

00:06:52.420 or on a raft or on a little floaty. And often they'd be eaten by sharks, but sometimes they

00:06:57.800 would make it. And the US had a policy, wet foot, dry foot, such that if you got one foot onto

00:07:02.460 American soil, we would let you stay. Obama reversed that because he was sucking up to the

00:07:07.580 communist regime in Cuba. Cuba started to let the people leave in 2021. Already the country was in

00:07:15.060 massive crisis, so they've lost 10% of their population. And they've lost really the most

00:07:18.600 ambitious of their population. So they are in a massive crisis. My read on this is not that

00:07:24.720 President Trump is planning Bay of Pigs Part 2. My read on this is we have been in not-so-secret

00:07:30.200 negotiations with the Cuban government for a very long time now. And probably they've stalled out a

00:07:35.780 little bit. They really accelerated after the lightning fast military operation in Venezuela.

00:07:41.900 I think they've stalled out a little bit as America stalled out a little bit in this much

00:07:45.280 longer, more complex operation in Iran. I think this is the administration trying to juice those

00:07:50.080 negotiations. You're going to see a lot of people saying, no, stop. We don't want any more wars.

00:07:54.720 We don't want any more military actions. Maybe Trump is planning a massive invasion. I don't

00:07:58.820 know, maybe Trump is planning to install Marco Rubio as El Comandante in the Hotel Cohiba.

00:08:04.320 Maybe. I don't know. It could be. But that's not my read on this. My read on this is this

00:08:08.900 is a negotiating tool. Trump loves his eccentric negotiating tools. And this one actually is

00:08:14.120 pretty standard. Okay. So speaking of war, the big conflict right now, the big war conflict is

00:08:20.680 the Iran war. And then the big political conflict is between the president and the pope. So we are

00:08:24.960 told. And the Pope now is being criticized for supposedly going soft on Islamic terror.

00:08:34.600 And folks, I'm going to just right at the top, before we get to all the nuances of this,

00:08:38.580 this is an op. This is an anti-Catholic and coincidentally anti-Trump op to try to split

00:08:48.200 the Catholics from the president and the president from the Catholics. That's what this is. That's

00:08:54.220 what's going on. And it's clear as day. President Trump won the Catholic vote with greater numbers

00:09:02.600 and more consistently than any Republican president ever. The Democrats had a stranglehold

00:09:08.660 on the Catholic vote from basically the moments Catholics arrived on these shores

00:09:13.000 all the way up through the early 70s. In 1972, Nixon manages to win the Catholic vote. And he

00:09:22.240 does so because the Catholics were working class. The Catholics are socially conservative,

00:09:29.300 at least were at that time. The Catholics were a little more, I don't know, they were a little

00:09:35.520 less cosmopolitan, say. So the Democrats were able to hold the Catholic vote because they appealed 0.52

00:09:40.560 to ethnic and class hostilities. But then the Democrats in the 60s started to go nuts. They

00:09:46.580 shifted from being the party of the working man to the party of the cosmopolitan elites.

00:09:51.860 They shifted from being the party of common sense, meat and potatoes, kitchen table issues,

00:09:56.900 to the party of radical, bizarre sex stuff, to the party of abortion, which is a non-negotiable

00:10:02.440 issue for Catholics. Catholics cannot support abortion at the ballot box. And so that gave an

00:10:06.640 opening to someone like Nixon. Nixon wins the Catholic vote in the reelection campaign.

00:10:10.900 Then 1984, in Reagan's reelection campaign, he won the Catholic vote too. He became the second

00:10:16.740 Republican president to do it. Then George W. Bush in his reelection campaign became the third

00:10:22.480 Republican president to do it. Notice none of these guys won the Catholic vote their first time

00:10:27.520 around. They were just sufficiently successful and their opponents were sufficiently bad that

00:10:32.940 they won them over in the reelection. It's kind of funny with Bush too, because Bush is an

00:10:36.360 evangelical Protestant. John Kerry, his opponent is nominally Catholic, but the Catholics picked 0.56

00:10:41.000 Bush over Kerry. Trump, however, is unique. Trump wins the Catholic vote in 2016, first time around.

00:10:48.740 And then Trump wins it again in 2024. The 2020 election, a little bit dubious, but 2024,

00:10:56.140 he wins it again. And so this is a major problem for Democrats. One in five American voters is

00:11:00.000 Catholic. And Catholicism is growing right now. There are a lot of adult converts. And it's growing,

00:11:06.460 especially among Republicans. And it's growing, especially among young men. We'll get to the war

00:11:10.140 between the sexes later. So this is a major political problem for Democrats. And what 0.95

00:11:14.320 they're trying to do is split the Catholic vote. I think this explains why there was so much 0.79

00:11:19.080 attention given to the three most liberal bishops in the United States going on 60 Minutes. 60

00:11:23.820 Minutes, a show that the president reportedly watches to try to trigger some of that. David

00:11:30.780 Axelrod makes a big show. The strategist for Obama makes a big show about getting to meet the Pope

00:11:35.540 on a visit to Rome. I think this is an op. You're seeing a lot of anti-Leo stuff right now. I just

00:11:40.840 saw, I was just doom scrolling while the DW servers were rebooting. I was doom scrolling on

00:11:45.660 Twitter. There was just a complete lie going out. A viral tweet from HIN News, breaking news.

00:11:54.040 These stupid tweets always start with breaking news. Breaking news. And it's a quote supposedly

00:11:57.780 from the Pope. Islam is a religion of peace we can learn from. Those who are against immigration

00:12:02.760 target Muslims needlessly, especially those in North Africa. So I saw that. So here in His

00:12:09.840 Holiness, Pope Leo XIV, sharing his views to the rest of the world for open borders and Islam.

00:12:14.720 I looked at that. I said that he obviously didn't say that. But if you don't follow the Catholic

00:12:19.040 Church closely, if you haven't followed this Pope closely, you might be taken in by it. This tweet

00:12:24.480 has well over 100,000 views, almost 1,000 retweets, 1,500 likes. There are a lot of tweets like this.

00:12:29.820 The quote is totally made up. If you watch the video that goes along with the quote,

00:12:34.280 the quote appears nowhere. The Pope obviously didn't say this. This is a coordinated effort

00:12:38.920 by enemies of the Catholic church, by enemies of this Trump coalition to try to split them apart.

00:12:47.100 And so the latest version of this op is that the Pope doesn't condemn Islamic terrorism.

00:12:52.800 One of the very first things this Pope did upon being elected, don't forget,

00:12:57.160 He's been Pope for like five minutes now. One of the very first things he did was call attention

00:13:01.420 to the Muslim attacks on Christians in Nigeria. It was immediately after rising up to the seat 0.97

00:13:07.380 of Peter. And he's not just focused on Nigeria. He has called attention to Islamic attacks on

00:13:13.940 Christians in the DRC, in Bangladesh, in Syria, in Sudan, in Mozambique. The list goes on and on and

00:13:24.060 The idea that this pope is somehow calling for syncretism with Islam is totally ridiculous.

00:13:30.300 Even in the disagreement that you're seeing between the pope and the president on the war in Iran.

00:13:35.380 A disagreement that resonates, by the way, with many conservatives in America,

00:13:39.040 because there are a fair number of conservatives who are skeptical of war in Iran,

00:13:43.560 certainly of a long war in Iran.

00:13:46.480 But even the crux of that disagreement is a little bit smaller than I think a lot of

00:13:53.640 people are making it.

00:13:55.340 Because what Trump is saying is the war in Iran is just because we need to protect innocent

00:14:01.780 people from the predations of this terrorist regime.

00:14:04.960 He's saying Iran is a threat to peace and we need to take it out.

00:14:09.840 They kill people. 0.98

00:14:11.300 They destabilize the region.

00:14:12.340 They destabilize the globe.

00:14:13.740 They are making war, and we therefore need to make war to reestablish peace. 0.97

00:14:18.460 What Pope Leo is saying is that this war in Iran is not just, because the only way to have a just 0.90

00:14:24.300 war is for the war to be defensive in nature, because in order for there to be a just war,

00:14:28.400 the purpose of the war has to be to reestablish peace. So yes, they are disagreeing over the

00:14:33.680 conflict in Iran, but they're not disagreeing in principle. They agree in principle. They're

00:14:41.360 disagreeing over the details. Was Iran really that much of an imminent threat?

00:14:46.940 Will innocence really be protected by this war? Is the war really proportional? It's all

00:14:52.100 disagreements about the details of the criteria of just war, but there's not a disagreement

00:14:56.280 in principle. And so this is why I have said, I gave this whole speech the other night at the

00:15:01.700 Pope's alma mater. I said, the president and the Pope have to work together. There are longstanding

00:15:04.920 tensions between the emperor and the Pope that goes back to at least the fourth century.

00:15:09.380 There's always going to be that kind of tension.

00:15:13.240 But this president and this pope need to work together.

00:15:16.300 There are a lot of people, not the least of which are Democrats, but other people,

00:15:20.200 other kinds of subversive forces in politics that are trying to split that apart.

00:15:25.400 Especially at this time of shifting political allegiances,

00:15:28.440 it's sometimes hard to distinguish the left from the right.

00:15:30.820 But do not fall for it, guys.

00:15:32.760 This is a coordinated op to destroy an historic political coalition.

00:15:38.900 and to confuse moral authority. Do not fall for it. Okay. Speaking of Trump and religion,

00:15:45.800 the president did post a new Jesus picture. He got in trouble the other day because he posted

00:15:51.200 this picture that most Christians thought was him putting his face in the place of Christ.

00:15:55.840 And then he came out and he said, that's not how I viewed it. And he gave this whole

00:15:59.680 explanation as to why he posted. He took responsibility for posting it,

00:16:03.040 which I was kind of skeptical of. But then he said, but I didn't think it was sacrilegious.

00:16:07.180 I thought I was a doctor.

00:16:08.380 He gave this whole explanation.

00:16:10.260 My take on it was he took the picture down.

00:16:13.240 He was responsive.

00:16:14.980 Good, I'll take the win.

00:16:16.460 Well, President Trump has now posted another picture involving our Lord.

00:16:22.700 This one, however, is quite different.

00:16:26.700 We'll get to that momentarily.

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00:17:38.540 President Trump posting on Truth Social, the radical left lunatics might not like this,

00:17:42.960 but I think it is quite nice. President DJT. And it's a post on Truth Social of a tweet

00:17:49.940 from the account Irish for Trump. And it's got this caption. It says, I was never a very religious

00:17:55.660 man, but doesn't it seem with all these satanic, demonic, child-sacrificing monsters being exposed

00:17:59.400 that God might be playing his Trump card. And the picture is of Christ hugging President Trump

00:18:07.960 in front of a white background that is itself bordered by an American flag.

00:18:12.760 And plenty of people are not going to like this for all reasons, political, theological,

00:18:19.340 and aesthetic. The picture is not exactly Caravaggio, I would have to say. It certainly

00:18:25.840 doesn't come from the western catholic tradition of art it doesn't really come from the eastern

00:18:30.820 orthodox iconic tradition of art it's a it's a little more modern a little a little kitsch

00:18:38.480 probably we would have to say and yet you would not apply the same criticisms to this picture

00:18:45.120 that that people applied myself included a few days ago to the picture of trump with his face

00:18:50.920 with the robes and all that. Because the depiction here is of Christ comforting Trump.

00:19:00.500 It's not Trump comforting Christ. It's not Trump and Christ marching into battle together. It's

00:19:05.500 of Christ comforting Trump. And so even if you don't like the picture, even if you don't like

00:19:10.460 the art or the style, surely we would say, well, our Lord comforts all of us. He is the consolation.

00:19:17.300 he's the ultimate consolation in this world. And as for the caption that goes along with the

00:19:22.860 picture, it says, you know, God might be playing his trump card. Again, you might say this is

00:19:28.100 grandiose. This is thinking very highly of oneself. However, it is a very basic principle

00:19:34.280 of theology that God causes all things. He causes all things, but he uses secondary causes

00:19:44.320 very often to do so. And this gets back, I know very few people probably are going to be talking

00:19:49.560 about Aristotelian metaphysics when it comes to this slightly kitschy picture of President Trump

00:19:54.960 and our Lord. But it comes down to the fact that in Aristotelian metaphysics, there is this notion

00:20:02.280 of act and potency. So everybody, every person, everything is a combination of those two things.

00:20:11.960 like a little baby is a baby in its act, but the baby is an adult, is a grown man,

00:20:21.020 is a podcaster, a politician in his potency. It's the thing that he can be, that he will be

00:20:26.880 unimpeded. An acorn is an acorn in its act, but it can be a tree. It's a tree in its potency.

00:20:36.400 And in this world, which constantly involves change, you have to recognize both of those

00:20:42.480 things. In fact, the fact of change, the fact that things change is St. Thomas Aquinas' first

00:20:51.160 argument. He thinks it's the best argument for the existence of God because we live in this world

00:20:55.700 of motion. And by motion, he really means change. Things are growing, things are developing,

00:21:01.500 things are changing. But in order for that to be the case, there has to be a first motion.

00:21:08.580 There has to be an unmoved mover, God who is pure act. And so God in his divine providence

00:21:16.560 orders the entire cosmos. We still have free will. We're still contingent beings.

00:21:25.300 But God uses us to cause things in the world.

00:21:29.660 We're secondary causes.

00:21:30.840 We're contingent causes.

00:21:32.620 And so, I'm not saying that the White House was going through all of this Aristotelian logic when they were posting the picture.

00:21:38.600 But I don't see anything particularly sacrilegious about that idea that God might be using Trump.

00:21:48.240 In fact, St. Paul tells us that rulers are appointed for our good with the stamp of approval

00:21:57.440 of God. St. Thomas Aquinas points out, yeah, they're bad rulers sometimes. The bad rulers,

00:22:02.900 even they, are appointed by God to chastise us. And God gives us good rulers too. And the fact

00:22:09.140 that President Trump was saved by this totally implausible last minute turn of his head,

00:22:15.000 so a bullet whizzed by him only nicked his ear. One 20th of an inch turn totally changed the

00:22:22.380 course of American history. Suggests that's not the craziest thing in the world. And what else

00:22:27.240 is Trump doing? He's proven a point. Trump is proving a point. He's saying, all right,

00:22:31.480 I took down the picture. All right, yeah, okay. I didn't mean it that way. It was understood in a

00:22:36.880 way that I didn't intend, so I'm going to take it down. I don't want to commit a sacrilege.

00:22:40.280 But he's doubling down. He's saying, I still am making religious claims here. I want to do good.

00:22:46.280 There was this clip going around of him a few months ago where he said, I got to check with

00:22:49.820 the big guy up there. I got to check with the boss. I'm not the boss. He said, I'm not the

00:22:54.740 most famous guy in the world. He said, you know who the most famous guy in the world is? Jesus.

00:22:59.800 And that's not even just sanctimonious. That's not even just Bible thumping.

00:23:03.260 There's a little bit of swag to that statement too. He goes, nobody on earth is as famous as

00:23:07.360 Now, I am definitely the most famous guy on earth, for sure, but there is someone who's

00:23:11.440 more famous than me. There is someone who's more powerful than me. I'll take it. I guess that's all

00:23:16.500 a long way of saying I'll take it because we obviously don't want our political rulers

00:23:22.640 to commit sacrilege. We don't want our political rulers to overstep their bounds. We don't want

00:23:26.800 our political rulers to divinize themselves, but we do want them to take religion seriously.

00:23:33.300 We need them to take religion seriously.

00:23:37.500 Religion is ultimately a habit of virtue that inclines the will to give to God what he deserves.

00:23:43.900 We need our political rulers to help guide society in such a way that it is good,

00:23:49.560 that it is godly, that it is giving to God what he deserves and not the opposite. 1.00

00:23:53.860 You think religious rulers are bad, just wait till you see irreligious rulers.

00:23:56.440 Now, speaking of the need for religion, a guest of our show, Clavicular, who, if you haven't caught the interview, I did this long interview with Clavicular.

00:24:05.940 If you don't know who Clavicular is, I don't know, I guess you haven't been on social media in the last six months, but it went very, very viral.

00:24:12.520 Clavicular has just OD'd this young man who has been promoting drug use in medical contexts, beyond medical contexts for recreational use.

00:24:22.800 He just OD'd.

00:24:23.760 He could have died, but he didn't die happily.

00:24:26.300 We'll get to what that means for him and for our culture,

00:24:29.380 because clavicular is very much a sign of the times.

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00:26:02.180 Clavicular, OD'd. He had this crazy combination of drugs that he was taking,

00:26:08.560 in part for his crusade of looks maxing. I think he told me when we were doing our interview,

00:26:14.920 He said, I don't really drink because that makes you puffy and it doesn't let you look smacks.

00:26:19.560 So I just do harder drugs, you know, ketamine or something.

00:26:23.980 I even asked him, this was off camera.

00:26:26.680 I said, I was kind of tired.

00:26:27.920 I said, you know, I have this nasty little habit I picked up to a little degree.

00:26:31.020 Those little nicotine pouches.

00:26:32.780 Do you ever do those nicotine pouches, clavicular?

00:26:35.040 And he looks at me, doesn't miss a beat, just totally dry.

00:26:38.000 He goes, Michael, I do meth.

00:26:40.080 I said, okay, all right, that's a little harder than, you know, a three milligram nicotine pouch.

00:26:44.180 Okay, so anyway, it caught up with him, and he OD'd, and now he's made the announcement that he is not going to do these massive live streams anymore.

00:26:54.600 I ain't going to be doing any more substances for a little while, hopefully forever, but that means I can't really IRL stream anymore, so that's the thing.

00:27:06.940 i really can't irl stream because as you guys know i'm quite brutal without that so that's uh

00:27:18.620 i think i have to figure something else out

00:27:21.640 i have to figure out a new method either practice mogging sober or just find a new form of of

00:27:30.940 content. I don't know. It's done for. Okay. So we'll probably have to define a few terms here

00:27:39.140 for some of the older members of the audience. Mogging, IRL stream.

00:27:44.980 But the upshot of this is he says, I'm going to stop doing drugs. Now, I don't think this means

00:27:48.820 he's going to stop doing all the drugs he takes to Luxmax, like the testosterone and all that.

00:27:52.400 But I think what it means is he said, I'm going to stop doing recreational drugs,

00:27:55.420 cocaine or whatever, ketamine. But he says, because I've got to stop doing the recreational

00:28:02.780 drugs. And I hope that's true. Plenty of people who do a lot of drugs say, oh, that was scary.

00:28:07.600 I'm done with drugs. And then they fall off the wagon. So it's very important that a clavicular

00:28:12.200 gets into some kind of program that will hold him accountable for this. Not because he's not

00:28:19.660 capable of the discipline or whatever, but kind of for that, because no one's really capable of

00:28:24.080 that discipline in any way when one does not have accountability. So I hope that's true. I hope he

00:28:28.180 stops those drugs. I hope he stops all the drugs. But then he says, and this is what's very telling,

00:28:33.220 he says, I'm going to stop IRL streaming. And I believe I myself am a millennial,

00:28:40.780 a little older. I believe IRL streaming is when they just stream everything, going to the club,

00:28:47.000 going to the grocery store, hanging around in their living room. They're just streaming all

00:28:50.700 the time. There's no private life. There's no inner life and there's no private life.

00:28:53.520 It's just all public. It's all a commodity for public consumption. He says, I've got to stop

00:28:58.160 doing that. And it's free telling. He says, I got to stop doing that because I can only do that on

00:29:01.480 drugs. I can't do, I'm brutal without the drugs. Whether that means it's because he's tired,

00:29:07.040 because he feels anxious, because he feels awkward. He says, I can't do, I need the drugs

00:29:11.660 to do the live streaming. So I'm glad he's saying at least, I'm going to stop doing the drugs and

00:29:17.740 I'm going to stop doing the things that I need the drugs for. But why is he doing all of this

00:29:23.800 in the first place? What I found immediately when I was talking to Clavicular is this guy

00:29:30.040 is really talented. He is talented. A lot of people are going to look at him and say,

00:29:34.860 what's his talent? What's his skill? He's just this guy who says this word mogging. Mogging,

00:29:40.100 by the way, meaning to excel, to comparatively excel, to upstage someone. He says, what's his

00:29:50.980 skill? He's very good at the media. He's very funny in this dry way. He knows how to work a

00:29:57.020 camera. He's obviously very popular. So he's got talent and he's got skill. And he was raised

00:30:07.440 entirely on the internet. That, to me, is the essential part of this persona of Clavicular.

00:30:13.940 He is a pure product of the internet. We're all kind of products of the internet, especially

00:30:19.380 Zoomers because they're a little younger, even millennials to some degree, though. The internet

00:30:23.300 was around when we were kids. It came out when we were kids. But Clavicular is that just pure,

00:30:30.400 Breaking Bad grade A meth version of being a product of the internet. He's that real top

00:30:37.740 shelf black tar heroin product of the internet. And that explains what he's describing. He says,

00:30:45.700 I just can't be in public if I'm not doing drugs. Because the internet, living on the internet,

00:30:52.200 being raised by the internet, creates a sense of alienation from the body. He describes this. He

00:30:58.040 says, the whole way I got into looks maxing was when I was a kid. I was 14, and I was on these

00:31:03.420 bodybuilder forums. And these bodybuilder forums made me conclude that looking good physically is

00:31:10.840 the only thing that matters in life. So he admits on camera, he says, I was on the internet when I

00:31:14.860 was a young teenager, and it gave me body dysmorphia. And we know from other aspects of

00:31:19.120 social media, it creates body dysmorphia, certainly with the social media algorithms,

00:31:23.320 certainly in the social media platforms that are more image-based rather than text-based.

00:31:29.080 The only social media platform I really like is X, but for most millennials and, sorry, 0.90

00:31:34.240 for most Zoomers and especially for most girls, it's all Instagram, it's all TikTok, it's all 0.97

00:31:38.340 visual. So it creates this alienation from the body and generally creates an alienation from 0.99

00:31:43.400 the body, the internet, because you're mediating all of your interactions through a computer screen,

00:31:49.080 Your body can't matter. This is why the internet helped to accelerate the transgender ideology. 1.00

00:31:57.300 There's transgenderism on the left, there's transgenderism on the right.

00:32:01.380 But then to get to the IRL streaming, what is clavicular? Clavicular is a reality star.

00:32:08.020 Clavicular is not a political pundit. Whenever I asked him anything about politics, he said,

00:32:13.760 I don't know, I don't want to talk about that. I don't know anything about politics.

00:32:15.940 he joked that he thought gavin newsom looked really hot you know that was that's all he knew

00:32:21.900 about politics and he was open about that he said i don't care about politics he was asked on some

00:32:26.540 other show about mom donnie he said i don't care about mom donnie so what do you mean you don't

00:32:29.980 know about mom he goes no i just want to mog all i want to do is mog all i want to do is excel

00:32:35.260 someone i want to upstage someone visually physically that is pure social media that's pure

00:32:42.220 internet. And so when he says, I can't do the IRL thing anymore, we realize that this is not a

00:32:47.960 totally new phenomenon. He's just the greatest reality TV star of our age. What he does is what

00:32:55.360 reality TV used to be. And there are all sorts of reality TV stars you never heard of. And then

00:33:00.300 there were the guys on the Jersey Shore. And he's just that. He's just the best version of that,

00:33:05.080 even down to the lingo. When Jersey Shore was on, there were all these little slogans that came out

00:33:09.560 about it, like Beat That Beat Up, Jim Tan Laundry, that GTL life. You can tell I'm Italian

00:33:15.920 extraction from the Northeast. I did watch a Jersey Shore a little. Well, for clavicular,

00:33:20.500 that's just mogging and maxing and this. It's all the same kind of lingo. It goes viral.

00:33:26.260 Is why he's a case study. He's a warning sign, a cautionary tale, not just for people who are

00:33:36.820 publicly in the media, but for all of us, especially for young people who are raised in the

00:33:40.800 media. And how he works through this problem, if he works through this problem, will be instructive.

00:33:48.420 There is weirdly a lot riding on Clavicular getting over his drug addiction and not just

00:33:53.460 streaming his entire life. You want him to stop doing that for him because no one seems to care

00:33:59.800 about this guy. Everyone's just exploiting him for money. No one, everyone's just following

00:34:05.760 around he's opening clubs he's they're promoting all of the funny lingo and but you do have to

00:34:13.200 he's a human being you know and he's very very young and people are encouraging him down this

00:34:18.560 path rather than what they should be doing which is if they sit down with him they should be

00:34:21.420 discouraging his worst inclinations but but because he's such a prominent figure here

00:34:27.880 so much depends upon clavicular

00:34:32.460 turning away from looks maxing or turning or turning away from mogging or just

00:34:38.020 reforming what all of that means a lot weirdly a lot depends upon that okay speaking of aesthetics

00:34:43.380 i am delighted to see a new uh effort coming out of the trump administration that is somehow

00:34:50.600 getting blowback itself is crazy president trump wants to build a big beautiful triumphal arch

00:34:56.360 in DC. And some libs are taking issue with it. I don't know. They don't like it, but it was

00:35:01.520 a big, beautiful arch. We have the big, beautiful bill. Now we're going to have the big, beautiful

00:35:07.040 arch. And on the right, I think a lot of people just say, oh, who cares? It's just a monument.

00:35:11.260 It's not a big deal. Let's focus on what really matters, like war and the economy and immigration.

00:35:15.780 The arch really matters. Roman emperors knew that the arch mattered.

00:35:20.880 The Roman Republic knew that the arch mattered.

00:35:22.960 there's nothing conservative about denying the importance of aesthetics this is the part

00:35:27.760 clavicular gets right he does he is right that aesthetics matter they're not the only thing

00:35:31.620 that matters but they do matter so we'll get to the big beautiful arch and then we will get to

00:35:35.780 the young women who hate the young men but first folks in the latest episode of be a man with me

00:35:39.440 pavel tries to take up one of the most dangerous occupations in america being an electrical lineman

00:35:44.440 he faces his fear of heights and climbs poles works with up to 69 000 volts of electricity and

00:35:49.260 much more, check out this teaser.

00:35:54.940 This episode is about electrical linemen.

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00:35:59.660 In dangerous conditions,

00:36:01.240 high temperatures, cold temperatures,

00:36:02.960 snow, ice, rain, wind,

00:36:04.980 they keep the electricity on

00:36:06.800 and society running.

00:36:10.260 Our guys do not go home until the power's on.

00:36:13.020 You have to want to be a lineman.

00:36:14.940 Once it gets in your blood, it's just kind of a way of life.

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00:36:19.620 You don't just sign up and say,

00:36:21.220 I think I'm going to be a lineman today.

00:36:22.900 No.

00:36:23.460 Dude, this helmet is giving me echo.

00:36:25.860 Like I hear my voice.

00:36:29.220 But I can't be an electrical lineman

00:36:31.700 unless I climb an electrical pole.

00:36:34.420 Did I mention I hate heights?

00:36:36.420 If I didn't, I'd hate heights.

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00:36:39.700 It's not great, guys.

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00:38:12.800 my favorite comment yesterday is from at two zero zero one six three nine which is when are you

00:38:19.320 coming to idaho nobody ever comes to idaho we need more details it would be awesome to meet

00:38:24.700 michael and erica yeah it's a lot of fun mentioned yesterday i don't i think this has been publicized

00:38:29.860 to some degree at least but uh tposa is continuing charlie's tour as happened right after he was

00:38:35.620 assassinated a number of his friends uh jumped in to finish the tour i was actually scheduled to do

00:38:41.300 an event with Charlie in Minneapolis 12 days after he was killed. And there was some debate.

00:38:46.000 They said, are we going to keep it going? Are we not going to keep it going? I told TPUSA,

00:38:48.660 whatever you want to do. If you want to do it, I'm happy to do it. But if you don't want to,

00:38:54.080 I don't want to overstep. So whatever you guys want to do. And I think they made the totally

00:38:57.620 right decision to keep that going. And they're continuing that this fall. So very, very excited

00:39:03.160 to do it. I think I'm doing that one with Matt, actually. I think Mr. Walsh and I are going to

00:39:07.900 be there. So it'll be a whole two-hour debate probably about the real issue that matters,

00:39:12.260 UFOs and aliens, and maybe some other topics too. I actually don't know the date. I don't

00:39:17.020 know when it is, but I am going to Idaho for the first time ever. I've never been to Idaho before.

00:39:20.940 So it'll be fun. If you're in the state of Idaho, please come on down to it. It'll be fun

00:39:24.960 whenever I tell you when it is. President Trump wants to build a big, beautiful arch. Here we

00:39:30.000 have White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt explaining. As you know, this year,

00:39:34.900 we celebrate America's 250th birthday in honor of this historic occasion. President Trump and

00:39:41.460 the Department of Interior will submit plans for the United States Triumphal Arc, which will be an

00:39:46.820 architectural masterpiece to celebrate our history right here in Washington, D.C. This is a rendering

00:39:53.940 of the arc for you. Thank you, Peter. It's quite beautiful, as you can see, and this monumental

00:40:00.120 Arc will beam at 250 feet tall in honor of 250 years and stand on ground that is currently

00:40:07.760 empty green space in Memorial Circle on Columbia Island, a man-made island in the Potomac River

00:40:13.580 managed by the National Park Service. The United States Triumphal Arc will be outfitted with

00:40:18.740 beautiful artwork and depictions celebrating the success of the American people over our 250-year

00:40:24.900 history and the enduring triumph of the American spirit. Long after everyone in this room is gone,

00:40:30.400 our children and grandchildren will remain inspired by this national monument. Beginning

00:40:35.240 construction this year on the architectural arc is a fitting way to commemorate the 250th

00:40:40.680 anniversary of American independence. Great nations build beautiful structures that cultivate

00:40:45.760 national pride and love of country, and this triumphal arc should be a project that all

00:40:50.460 Americans of all political persuasions can support because it's a monument for every American to

00:40:55.420 celebrate 250 years of our nation's proud history. And again, the plans for this will be submitted

00:41:00.520 tomorrow. And we'll have many more announcements with respect to our 250th anniversary in the

00:41:05.420 coming months as we look forward to the 4th of July. Love it. Beautiful. This really matters,

00:41:10.900 folks. I know some people say, oh, it's a little, it's trivial. Look, it's very beautiful,

00:41:17.600 but this sort of thing doesn't matter. This does matter. The triumphal arc goes back to

00:41:23.700 the Roman Republic. Do you know what the arc is for? What the arc actually symbolizes?

00:41:30.540 There are a lot of these arcs. There's the Arc de Triomphe in Paris. There's an arc in

00:41:34.440 Washington Square in New York. We even have them in America. You didn't really have them

00:41:38.600 a lot in the Middle Ages. There were some attempts to build them. It was really only

00:41:42.340 in the 15th century that they started to come back as we looked back to the glories of our

00:41:45.820 early civilization and Rome. The arc symbolizes the transition from war to peace. That's what

00:41:53.120 the symbol means. So you would have in the Roman Republic, generals would come back. They'd often

00:41:58.080 pay for it themselves. It would be these arcs that they would walk through to symbolize that

00:42:01.980 transition, to celebrate the victories of the war, the accomplishments, but then to symbolize

00:42:07.620 that transition back to peace. That's obviously what President Trump wants to do. And I think

00:42:12.780 Some people are losing sight of that right now because President Trump has engaged in lots of

00:42:18.000 military actions. He did that in the first term too, by the way. We forget the killing of Soleimani.

00:42:23.040 We forget the dropping of the Moab. We forget all sorts of military operations,

00:42:26.820 the destruction of ISIS, the total destruction of ISIS. But a global power has to engage in

00:42:32.480 some military conflict. The question is, what is it for? Is it for the private interest as a tyrant

00:42:37.800 would engage in? Is it for just plunder, for spoils, for stuff? Or is it just, is it for

00:42:47.720 peace? And what President Trump is doing here is building a monument that says that we do have to

00:42:52.120 engage in war. There are all sorts of monuments, two wars on the National Mall. Plenty of them.

00:42:58.780 World War II memorial is pretty beautiful. The Vietnam War memorial is pretty beautiful.

00:43:01.860 but the wars have to be for the purpose of establishing peace. That's not sufficient 0.74

00:43:09.380 to justify a war, but that is a necessary condition. It's also just beautiful. And this

00:43:14.080 is important. This is the opposite of the Obama era. The Obama era where just in the popular

00:43:19.500 construction, everything, it was just those ugly boxes where city condominiums just look like

00:43:25.580 prisons. They just look like millennial prisons. And the Obama library is a perfect example of

00:43:30.100 this hideous, brutal architecture that just looks like a nugget of coal. It's just so gross. It's

00:43:36.920 nauseating. It's spiritually deadening. This is beautiful though. This is nice and big and 0.72

00:43:45.780 beautiful. And it's important because I forget the name of the architectural theorist. He died

00:43:53.180 just a few years ago, who pointed out that spaces really matter. Sir Roger Scruton, the late

00:43:58.160 a conservative philosopher in Britain, pointed out spaces really matter. Homes really matter.

00:44:02.920 Buildings really matter because we're incarnate beings. Much as we were discussing in the

00:44:08.380 clavicular conversation, we got bodies. We are bodies in part, and we move around in the world

00:44:14.260 and architecture either will lift our spirits or lower our spirits. In the old Penn Station

00:44:20.480 in New York, you'd walk in there, you'd feel like a god. At the very least, you'd feel like a man,

00:44:25.000 like a true man standing up straight. Then after they obliterated the beautiful Penn Station,

00:44:29.800 the Beaux-Arts architecture, and they created this disgusting little rat maze,

00:44:33.500 you felt like a rat. You'd get in on the train and you'd feel like a dirty little rat or an insect

00:44:37.540 who'd lower your spirits. And what Trump wants to do is raise our spirits again.

00:44:43.300 What Trump wants to do is make us feel like a great nation again and to really make America

00:44:48.500 great again. It's one of the most important legacies. Orban just was voted out in Hungary.

00:44:53.160 I was speaking to a high-level member of his government a year or two ago, and he said,

00:44:57.160 you know, of all of the things that we've done in this country, our enduring legacy is going

00:45:01.600 to be the architectural renewal. They took all of this brutalist, ugly communist architecture,

00:45:05.460 and they just made it beautiful again. They just redid it. The palaces, the buildings,

00:45:10.440 they restored the former glory of this thousand-year-old kingdom. That's what will remain.

00:45:14.780 That arc will remain long after policies are amended or reformed or repealed.

00:45:21.360 What do we say of Caesar Augustus?

00:45:23.260 What is the line that we say of Caesar Augustus,

00:45:25.780 the greatest emperor in our history?

00:45:28.900 Suetonius recalls this.

00:45:30.700 He says that Augustus said,

00:45:32.480 I found Rome, a city of bricks,

00:45:34.640 and I left it a city of marble.

00:45:36.780 It's that architecture.

00:45:37.780 It really matters.

00:45:38.580 This is not a flight of fancy.

00:45:40.300 When they go after Trump as being frivolous or something

00:45:42.360 because he wants to build a ballroom at the White House,

00:45:44.180 when he wants to build an ark,

00:45:45.580 they just don't get it.

00:45:47.120 They don't understand the man,

00:45:48.440 but they also just don't understand politics.

00:45:50.100 They don't understand the physical aspect of politics. Okay, before we go, I really want to

00:45:57.540 get to this angry young women piece. It's very, very important. I also want to get to, though, 1.00

00:46:04.320 J.D. Vance at one of the TPSA events just a couple nights ago. J.D. gave this beautiful sermon

00:46:11.060 against blackpilling. A lot of people want to blackpill. Young voters in particular are not

00:46:16.640 thrilled about the war in Iran. Conservatives wish there were more deportations. There were

00:46:21.460 a lot of deportations last year, and Trump does not get enough credit for it. But they want the

00:46:26.320 economy to be doing better. Obviously, the closing of the Strait of Hormuz is going to cause

00:46:29.700 downstream economic effects that are going to be tough. And so some people say, I'm checking out.

00:46:33.640 I mean, for goodness sake, she had Ilhan Omar singing the praises of her former colleague,

00:46:38.920 Marjorie Taylor Greene. Candace, too. Actually, she mentioned Candace, too. What world are we

00:46:44.580 living in, where Ilhan Omar is saying nice things about these people. But because there are these

00:46:48.860 figures on the right, including former members of Congress, who were hardcore MAGA like MTG,

00:46:53.040 who flipped on Trump. And she's singing their praises. And J.D. Vance gave this

00:47:02.040 exhortation to get people encouraged again and to counter the blackpilling.

00:47:10.740 ah you know there's no point no no no because or let me give you another example the save act

00:47:18.660 okay a lot of people want the save act i want the save act i've been fighting for the save act

00:47:23.980 literally since day one of the administration and i i've seen a lot of people saying what the

00:47:28.180 hell's the point of voting for these guys if you know you've got three republicans joining with

00:47:34.260 with the democrats to prevent the save act from passing or i guess four republicans and and here's

00:47:39.700 my response to that yes it is annoying to me that there are only 45 or 46 republicans who will fight

00:47:46.620 politically to get the save act passed but you know what 10 years ago that number was 35 so the

00:47:52.800 answer to frustration is engagement don't give up on this process get more involved in this process

00:47:59.440 and demand more from people like me that's how we take our country back i just think it's important

00:48:04.580 to say that. Really important point here. And I don't want this to be misinterpreted

00:48:09.480 because I think the point the vice president is making is so crucial, especially at this moment,

00:48:14.640 but do not misinterpret it. People are going to diminish his point and say, oh yeah, here he comes.

00:48:20.540 The VP is just trying to give us all a pep talk. Everything sucks. And he's going to try to tell

00:48:26.660 us it's really good. And we just need to smile and be happy. That's not what he's saying.

00:48:31.140 Is that what he's saying?

00:48:32.580 Didn't sound like it to me.

00:48:35.060 He's saying that it is wrong to black pill.

00:48:39.240 He's not even bragging about the accomplishments of the administration so much.

00:48:43.960 He's got some political humility here, but I can brag about that.

00:48:47.380 Do you remember when 3 million illegals were coming to the country every year?

00:48:50.440 I remember it.

00:48:51.300 That was like two years ago.

00:48:52.700 And then Trump just totally stopped that.

00:48:55.200 Had Biden remained in office or Kamala Harris, we'd have another 6 million illegals in this country.

00:49:00.060 Not only did they stop that, but within the first year in office,

00:49:03.660 President Trump deported some 2 million illegal aliens.

00:49:06.340 So you have a net of 5 million illegals gone.

00:49:10.440 Inflation was 9% under Joe Biden.

00:49:13.580 Dropped way, way down.

00:49:15.120 President Trump's managed that very well.

00:49:16.400 The price of eggs, which is an economic indicator,

00:49:19.300 but it was one of the key economic indicators over the last five years.

00:49:23.080 Price of eggs is down like 60%.

00:49:24.580 the trump administration has done a lot of good pro-lifers were being arrested and imprisoned 0.72

00:49:32.820 including pro-life grannies they were let out political dissidents were being imprisoned in

00:49:37.900 solitary confinement for trumped up charges president trump pardon them the children were 0.61

00:49:44.300 being transed president trump just stopped that we used to have before the trump first term

00:49:49.120 we used to have a supposed constitutional right to abortion that's gone after 50 years of struggle

00:49:54.280 Trump fixed that. So I actually am going to say we need to recognize the wins. We need to

00:50:02.860 recognize the wins because that's right and just, but we also need to recognize the wins

00:50:06.240 as a protection against blackpilling because blackpilling is always wrong.

00:50:11.340 Hope is a theological virtue and it is a command. Despair is a sin. If you engage in despair

00:50:16.800 willingly, you are committing a serious sin. And what is the alternative in politics?

00:50:24.280 There are two alternatives. I'm not saying you have to blindly trust the plan. That's not what

00:50:29.380 JD is saying. JD is saying, you got to put pressure on us. When you don't like something's

00:50:32.840 going on, let us know. We're working. We're managing a lot of things, but we're going to

00:50:36.680 try to improve that. But what's the alternative to active engagement in politics? Two alternatives,

00:50:42.740 terrorism and quietism. Those are the options. If you think the political order is just totally

00:50:48.220 screwed, you have two options. One is to subvert the whole order, to tear the whole thing down.

00:50:55.660 And the way you do that is terrorism, where you act politically outside of the law,

00:51:02.360 usually through immoral means, often violent means. So that's one option.

00:51:07.020 The left and the right are both engaged in that from time to time. The left more so,

00:51:11.000 and right now the left especially. There's that. Or there's quietism, which is to say,

00:51:16.840 well, I'm just checking out. I'm not going to vote. This is all fake. It's all useless. It's

00:51:20.500 all pointless. I'm just going to check out, which is precisely what the Democrats are trying to get

00:51:26.120 you to do. Now they're running this anti-Catholic op, but they run it against everybody. They say,

00:51:32.940 check out. Okay, you know what? I'm just going to check out. And just conveniently, that's going

00:51:37.020 to give Democrats all the political power. The only reasonable option, is there a fourth option

00:51:42.620 I'm missing? The only reasonable option is active engagement. Even if you're not getting every

00:51:48.860 single thing you want immediately. You can whine and cry like a little toddler. I'm tempted to do

00:51:54.180 it sometimes. But I wanted this policy, but I don't like this policy. Yeah, there are plenty

00:51:57.900 of things I don't like. What's the option? I'm not going to become a terrorist and I'm not going

00:52:02.120 to become a coward. So what are we going to do? We have to engage. You got to act like a man

00:52:06.040 sometimes in politics. That's what you have to do. That's what the VP is saying. Much needed,

00:52:11.000 very timely advice. I do want to get, speaking of young men, speaking of acting like a man,

00:52:16.140 young women apparently hate young men. There's this story out of the UK, out of the New Statesman.

00:52:21.600 We've been told for 10 years, these angry young men are misogynists and they hate women and that's

00:52:26.880 exacerbating the tension between the sexes. Turns out it's actually the opposite. We don't have time

00:52:31.980 to get to it today. We'll get to it tomorrow. We'll get to the men, women stuff tomorrow,

00:52:36.480 but today's Theology Thursday. And we have a special guest coming on. The special guest

00:52:40.400 talk about a timely guest

00:52:42.640 Madison Cawthorn

00:52:43.740 Madison Cawthorn

00:52:45.020 the prophet

00:52:45.700 crying out in the wilderness

00:52:47.360 about all the creepy

00:52:48.400 weird sex stuff

00:52:49.300 going on in Congress

00:52:50.140 and now

00:52:50.960 you got Swalwell going down

00:52:52.440 you got a number of members

00:52:53.280 of Congress

00:52:53.720 who are caught up in this stuff

00:52:54.700 so anyway 1.00

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The Michael Knowles Show - April 16, 2026

Ep. 1954 - Democrats Try To Drive A Wedge Between Trump & Catholics

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