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00:02:27.740Swalwell is out of the California governor race. Democrats realized he just didn't have what it
00:02:32.100takes. It looked like they were going to throw California to Republicans. The Democrat party
00:02:35.820couldn't handle that. So they smacked him with a constitutional challenge, then a financial
00:02:40.840corruption scandal. Then they finally, they pulled out the big card. They pulled out the weird sex
00:02:44.880scandal. He's out, which means that the Democrats are much more likely, almost certain to take the
00:02:50.980California governor's race. And the remaining candidates are actually probably worse than
00:02:56.500Swalwell. We'll get to that momentarily. So what do we have? We have Tom Steyer,
00:03:04.200the billionaire. He was the guy who was really pushing Swalwell out. We also have Xavier Becerra,
00:03:10.840who was the head of, wasn't it HHS over at the White House? And then we have Katie Porter,
00:03:18.600most famous or infamous for berating her staff and pouring scalding hot mashed potatoes on her1.00
00:03:23.860ex-husband. Take the personal stuff aside for a second. Let's get to the issues that actually1.00
00:03:30.540matter. Let's start with an easy one. This is not just an 80-20 issue. This has got to be a 90 or
00:03:36.48095 to 5 or 10 issue. Should illegal aliens who do not speak English be allowed to get commercial1.00
00:03:46.200truck driver licenses after the many, many occasions when these non-English speaking1.00
00:03:53.240commercial truck drivers have rammed into American citizens, killing them because they0.95
00:03:59.740can't read the road signs. This is pretty easy, right? This is a layup. Democrats, they want to
00:04:03.980run moderate in the midterms. They want to run moderate in these gubernatorial races. So, okay,
00:04:09.040here we go. I'm going to underhand pitch this one to Tom Steyer. Tom Steyer, certainly we shouldn't
00:04:14.960let these homicidal foreigner truck drivers keep killing Americans, right? Mr. Steyer,1.00
00:04:22.920where do you draw the line on this? Should language proficiency for truckers be strictly
00:04:27.740enforced, even if it means that some of them will probably lose their jobs? You have 60 seconds.
00:04:32.980Look, I agree with what was said, which is we don't know the context of this stop.
00:04:38.160But what I can say is this, racial profiling is illegal.
00:04:42.700And in fact, picking on people based on the color of their skin in the state of California is illegal.
00:04:50.560Okay, not feeling too hopeful for this old Democrat field here.
00:04:54.900The question, even the way the question was framed by the moderator was, do the rights of American citizens to live and not be smushed by giant Mack trucks, do those rights trump the supposed right of non-English speaker, possible illegal aliens to get a license to drive a commercial truck when they can't read the signs on the road?
00:05:20.440And Steyer goes, absolutely not. Absolutely not. We don't know the context. I think we do know
00:05:26.280the context. Just a little rundown. This is certainly not exhaustive. 2017, an 18-year-old
00:05:31.600kid was killed in Florida because one of these guys who doesn't speak or read English rammed
00:05:36.400into him with a truck. An EMT was killed in 2022, American citizen in Wyoming. Same exact reason.
00:05:42.440Three people were killed in Florida just this year. Same exact reason. A 31-year-old was killed
00:05:48.100just last year in Tennessee. Same exact reason. This is not just an isolated incident, even if it
00:05:54.020were on the principle of the thing. Obviously, you should not be able to get a license to drive
00:05:58.080a Mack truck, a commercial license, if you can't read the signs on the road. But we don't even just
00:06:03.180have an isolated incident to point to the dire consequences of it. We have an endless array of
00:06:08.700incidents killing young American citizens. He says, nope, sorry. The supposed right of foreigners
00:06:17.580to a job, not even to residency, not even to legal protections, not even to social services,
00:06:25.160which Democrats wouldn't have granted even 15 years ago. Forget about that. No, no, no. The
00:06:30.080right to have whatever job they want to get whatever government license they want trumps
00:06:34.980the rights of Americans to live. And then notice how he pivots. He says, we can't have racial
00:06:40.240profiling. First of all, first of all, this is going to be a little uncomfortable, but it's a
00:06:46.600fact, not only is racial profiling in the broad sense not illegal, it is essential
00:06:55.840to all manner of law enforcement. When a guy commits a crime and they call in the cops,
00:07:03.820the cops hear it on their little walkie talkies, say, all right, we have a crime,
00:07:08.000got committed over in Palookaville, got a crime. The very next thing they hear is a description
00:07:14.280of the suspect. And because race is rather visible, they always say that. They always say
00:07:22.220it's a 22-year-old black male. Suspect is a 35-year-old Hispanic male. Suspect is a 42-year-old
00:07:32.140white male. When it's the white guys, it's maybe a little more white collar crimes just as a
00:07:37.120likelihood statistic. We don't even need to get into that. You obviously have to take into account
00:07:44.240physical appearance when you are trying to nab a suspect, when you are trying to ascertain the
00:07:50.220likelihood of crimes, when you're trying to determine where limited police resources should
00:07:54.680go. That's just a fact. I know it's uncomfortable. We deny it. We even try to deny it as a matter of
00:07:59.520law, but that's not possible. And all of that is totally beside the point because the question is
00:08:08.400not about race. It's about language. There are, in fact, white people in the world who don't speak
00:08:14.420English. I know it's hard to believe. There are, in fact, Hispanics and Indians and Africans and
00:08:20.300all sorts of people who do speak English. And so the very limited question here is,
00:08:26.000should you stop people who don't speak English from killing American citizens?
00:08:29.860Tom Steyer says no. And if you think so, you're a racist. So, okay, you say, all right,0.96
00:08:34.360this is weirdo billionaire. He tried to run for president once. He's a total joker.
00:08:37.880look at this guy. He's wearing a suit with Nike sneakers on. I know he's not a millennial. This
00:08:45.020is very millennial core, but this guy, his judgment's impaired. Okay, surely the other
00:08:51.200people on the stage. We're not even getting into tough questions. We're not even getting
00:08:56.140into questions like, I don't know, tax rates or social services or education. This is basic stuff.
00:09:04.500Surely the other guys on stage have the right answer, right?
00:09:06.700We turn to a much more serious candidate, Xavier Becerra.
00:19:45.940Now, it seems like this is a contradiction.
00:19:48.660It seems like this is hypocrisy. I'm not sure that it is. In Hassan Piker's defense,
00:19:53.900I think he has about as coherent a left-wing ideology as ever there was.
00:20:00.780It's the ideology of the beginning of crime and punishment by Dostoevsky.
00:20:04.080It's the ideology of Raskolnikov, who says, I am going to totally transgress the moral order.
00:20:10.020The book opens, spoiler alert, with the main character committing an axe murder,
00:20:13.720just to see if he can do it, just to see if his own will really can overcome the moral order.
00:20:21.100Because all that matters is his personal desire and self-interest. I won't spoil the end of the
00:20:26.520book, but it turns out he's wrong. And so Hassan Piker is asked, would you steal a car? And he
00:20:32.180says, absolutely. I would commit piracy for a car. And he's making a little joke here regarding
00:20:37.740piracy of music online. He says, yeah, I would commit piracy against a car. But it's funny,
00:20:42.720because piracy of music online refers to pirates, like actual pirates who would board ships and
00:20:46.920kill people and steal all their stuff and commit all sorts of crimes. They were total outlaws.
00:20:52.820And he says, yeah, I would do that to music. I would do that to a car.
00:20:56.980And then the New York Times lady seems like she gets him in a contradiction,0.63
00:21:01.400even though she's very cheery about it. She says, well, would you steal from your local diner?
00:21:06.020He says, oh, no, I wouldn't. Would you steal from the library? No, I wouldn't.
00:21:10.040would you steal from a museum? A museum, which is kind of like a library.
00:21:15.020It's a public entity that has resources that can be used by the common good.
00:21:22.340Just the Louvre is very rich and famous, and the library is local. And he says,
00:21:26.620I would definitely steal from the Louvre. And then even that other lady, she goes,0.98
00:21:28.960I would totally, I would cheer it on if people stole from the Louvre. And it seems like there's
00:21:33.060a contradiction. Why would you steal from some people, but not other people? Why would you steal
00:21:36.440some things, but not other things. That's inconsistent. No, it is consistent. Because
00:21:41.420what Hassan Piker is saying is, I will do whatever I want. I will do whatever I want.
00:21:45.520I am not beholden to any moral order. So I like my local diner. So I wouldn't steal from it. I
00:21:52.040might even donate money to it. I like my local library, but I hate the Louvre because he hates
00:21:58.020Western civilization, because he hates Christendom, because he hates the glories of our culture.
00:22:03.980so i would do that i would i would steal some guy's car because i want the car and i don't
00:22:09.560care about the guy but i like my waitress at the local diner so i wouldn't steal from her
00:22:13.860but it's all about me me me it it reminds me a little bit of the churchill quote the famous
00:22:19.920churchill quote which is that socialism is the philosophy of failure and the creed of
00:22:24.760ignorance and the gospel of envy and so it is a it's a the philosophy of failure in as much as
00:22:31.960when you haven't built something yourself, you just steal from others.0.83
00:22:36.920It's a creed of ignorance in that it speaks to a total ignorance of the moral order and
00:22:40.920serious philosophy. But then it's also the gospel of envy because it's just all about taking
00:22:44.780and greed and amassing goods for yourself. Totally inconsiderate of anything else.
00:22:54.600Okay, on the theft point, you say, okay, well, that's bad. But there have always been thieves
00:22:58.520and robbers and, you know, it's okay. It's just property anyway. But then it takes an even darker
00:23:03.600turn. And this, I think, shows you, forget Hassan Piker. This shows you the greatest danger of the
00:23:10.480Democrat Party today. They ask about murder. The answer and the response is chilling. First,
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00:24:33.500you support theft and we kind of support theft too against our enemies. But what about murder?
00:24:40.340angles wrote about the concept of social murder and brian thompson as the united healthcare ceo
00:24:51.740was engaging in a tremendous amount of social murder the systematized forms of violence uh
00:25:00.020the the structural violence of poverty uh the the for-profit uh paywalled uh system of of
00:25:08.900healthcare in this country. And the consequences of that are tremendous amounts of pain, tremendous
00:25:15.840amounts of violence, tremendous amounts of deaths. And that was a fascinating story for me because
00:25:22.820Americans are very draconian about crime and punishment. They're very black and white on this
00:25:28.120And yet, because of the pervasive pain that the private health care system had created for the average American, I saw so many people immediately understand why this death had taken place.
00:25:46.640why this death had taken place, a lunatic LGBT activist, a young ideological leftist
00:25:56.140murders a CEO in cold blood. And not just a CEO, by the way, a husband, a father,0.93
00:26:02.280a guy who worked his way up, made an honest living, was running a company that does good
00:26:10.220in the world, despite what Hassan Piker has to say. And he says, yeah, it was right to murder
00:26:14.460that guy. Because of what? Well, because really he was committing social murders. What is social0.71
00:26:21.840murders? He cites Engels. Engels, who was the financier of Karl Marx, Karl Marx, who was a
00:26:26.040deadbeat. And he says it was a social murder because of poverty. Wait, wait, wait, wait,
00:26:31.620hold on. The UnitedHealthcare CEO is the cause of poverty because of the paywalled system of
00:26:38.160healthcare in this country. Hold on. The paywalled system of healthcare, you mean that goods cost
00:26:43.580money? That's what he's saying. The paywalled system of healthcare says goods, finite goods,
00:26:49.620cost money. Finite goods are finite, in other words. And that's this random healthcare company
00:26:57.480CEO's fault? What? America is a very draconian healthcare system. We have the most generous
00:27:03.140healthcare system in the world. We have universal healthcare. Foreigner criminal gangbangers who
00:27:08.800show up and run over American citizens get to show up to American hospitals. They will be treated for0.98
00:27:13.180free, they'll receive the best healthcare in the world. Draconian. Plenty of ways to fix American
00:27:18.340healthcare. But there is a reason everybody comes here for healthcare. Nobody goes to Cuba.
00:27:23.520Nobody who can go to America goes to Cuba. Nobody who can go to America goes to China.0.54
00:27:29.780And he says, yeah, that's why murder was justified in this case. It's good to murder0.91
00:27:35.140a husband and a father who's committed no crime, who's done nothing wrong because I hate him.0.99
00:27:40.380um so hasan piker is just a total reprobate you know that's that's in part part of his shtick0.94
00:27:48.800he tortures his dog on camera and he talks about how 9-11 was good and he talks about how much he0.96
00:27:53.860hates america and he wants to kill republicans and he's kind of a shock jock and he gets he
00:27:58.420gets clicks for that okay my issue is more with the new york times because they're just not only0.97
00:28:03.380are they platforming this they're nodding along and agreeing which is a lesson that i really want
00:28:09.240conservatives to take to heart, especially as we look at the midterms in 2028.
00:28:14.580The only difference between Antifa and the New York Times is the smile. That's the only difference.
00:28:23.260Antifa, with their masks on, with their angry faces, they say, we're going to kill you. We're0.99
00:28:28.440going to steal your stuff. We're going to kill you. We're going to burn you down. If we hate you,1.00
00:28:31.880no moral considerations. We're going to murder you in cold blood in the street.1.00
00:28:35.480and the new york times says well you know uh if we hate you and we consider you an enemy even if0.99
00:28:44.680you've committed no crime and no no immoral action we're going to murder you in cold blood in the
00:28:49.420street that's the difference that's the only difference this dynamic does not exist on the
00:28:56.480right indeed charlie kirk's raise on debt in many ways the the thing that charlie kirk did better
00:29:03.280than anybody was he managed a coalition that included people who kind of hate each other.
00:29:09.060So he brought a big coalition together and he told them to pipe down and stop fighting each
00:29:12.580other all the time. But he excluded the genuinely bad and toxic and wicked elements like Hassan0.98
00:29:19.900Piker, like the Hassan Piker equivalents on the right. New York Times doesn't do that.
00:29:24.660The Libs don't do that. The California governor candidates don't do that. There is no limit0.98
00:29:29.180to radicalism on the left. No limit whatsoever. And we should look at the New York Times
00:29:36.000with the exact same kind of contempt, trepidation, and prudential caution
00:29:43.620that we consider Antifa. There's no difference between them.
00:29:48.340Hassan Piker is going to become the op-ed edit over there pretty soon.
00:29:52.760There's no difference whatsoever. Here's a perfect example. The difference between Antifa
00:29:58.280in the New York Times is just the smile. Here we have James Tallarico going on CNN with Jake
00:30:03.780Tapper, who's trying to play the moderate. And Tapper says, hey, Mr. Tallarico, you're running
00:30:10.920for this Senate seat in Texas, and you've said some pretty wacky stuff. You've defended castrating
00:30:17.360little kids and killing babies. And you've not only defended it, you've defended it in a different0.94
00:30:22.800way than Hassan Piker does. Hassan Piker says, I do what I want. I'm going to murder you. I'm a
00:30:27.020pirate. I'm a criminal. Screw you. I'm going to let the streets run red in your capitalist blood.0.99
00:30:31.780Almost a direct quote. But you, James Tallarico, you try to justify it on the basis of a moral
00:30:38.060order, on the basis of Christianity. In many ways, much more wicked than what Hassan Piker does.0.82
00:30:42.520At least Hassan Piker is honest. So, hey, do you want to walk back some of your crazy claims? You0.74
00:30:47.240called God non-binary. That seems a little weird. You want to walk back some of your claims?
00:30:51.180Here's Tallarico's response. The National Republican Senate
00:30:55.380Committee is already highlighting comments that you've made as a state representative.
00:31:01.280For example, they're highlighting this.
00:31:05.680God is both masculine and feminine and everything in between.0.95
00:35:49.500There's a kind of a point to what he's saying, but it's perfectly wrong.
00:35:52.200Indeed, it is satanically wrong, which is why James Tallarico is as close to an Antichrist figure as I think we've ever seen.0.55
00:36:01.140He's not an Antichrist figure in that most people don't like him, and he's not charismatic, and he's the gay Pete Buttigieg, and his shtick doesn't work all that well.0.61
00:36:10.400But if he were more charismatic, he would be as Antichristic a figure as ever I have seen.0.96
00:36:16.460Okay. I'm very excited to get to two things. UFO scientists and researchers are going missing,
00:36:27.120turning up dead. This is taking over the internet. Lots of questions. Are the aliens
00:36:30.840kidnapping people, murdering people? They all said they're not suicidal. And another story,
00:36:36.160also a little mystical in nature. Have we found Noah's Ark? There's a big claim that we found
00:36:41.620Noah's Ark on a mountain in Anatolia. And I have an expert coming on to discuss that because I was
00:36:46.340kind of persuaded by it but i don't know i will my mind is open first though do you want a sneak
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00:38:10.440right this second, dailywire.com slash subscribe. My favorite comment yesterday is from
00:38:16.640Pensee, Prince Z or Pensee 413, who says, he says, and I'm going to put on my perfect
00:38:25.780boomer voice. Democrats are just going back to their roots. After all, they did start the KKK.
00:38:32.760You know, it's because a lot of younger conservatives have made fun of this kind
00:38:37.340of rhetoric in recent years. You heard this a lot 20 years ago from Gen X and boomer conservatives
00:38:42.520and say, you know, Democrats are the real racists. Democrats are the party of the KKK.0.93
00:38:47.940And the younger conservatives kind of made fun of this. Like, all right, man, it's like, yeah,
00:38:51.760sure. But it's a little more complicated. It's kind of a cope. And like, I don't, you know,
00:38:55.760but then we get the SPLC scandal where the SPLC is spending 3 million bucks funding the Klan.0.98
00:39:01.360And you say, man, maybe the boomers were right. Were the boomers right?0.85
00:39:04.680Democrats really are the real racists, I guess. Isn't that crazy?0.95
00:39:09.280Maybe they're literally the party of the Ku Klux Klan because they're paying for it.0.83
00:39:12.860Wow, I have to reexamine my priors, I guess.0.77
00:39:15.480Okay, before we get to Noah's Ark, this is a weird story. It involves UFOs. We'll go from
00:39:22.300UFOs to global cataclysms. David Wilcock has died. David Wilcock was in the show Ancient Aliens,
00:39:29.360if you ever watched that. And apparently he's billed as a UFO researcher. This in the context
00:39:35.040of a story where all sorts of scientists supposedly working on UFOs and anti-gravity,
00:39:39.600they're dying, they're going missing. People see some kind of conspiracy here.
00:39:42.840So here is David Wilcock shortly before he was discovered dead.
00:39:49.080Every day that I have on earth is a gift and a blessing, and I'm very grateful for that
00:39:53.100because frankly people are disappearing scientists are going missing now they're saying they're
00:39:59.760going to investigate this the president himself is saying they're going to look into this and
00:40:03.060see if anything's going on it's a little bit scary i gotta say it's a little bit scary but
00:40:07.640you guys knew that i might still show up even though it was last minute and i've had a really
00:40:12.360rough week like you know that's kind of like every week but somehow we keep on making it through all
00:40:18.280this okay shortly after that segment david wilcock was found dead in an apparent suicide and so now
00:40:27.600lots of people saying he didn't kill himself just like epstein didn't kill himself this guy didn't
00:40:31.140kill himself especially he's talking about all of these other ufo researchers and maybe some
00:40:36.260scientists who aren't just working on youtube channels they're working for the government you
00:40:39.960know they they're turning up dead and this is a big conspiracy and maybe the aliens are really
00:40:44.600getting us. I don't think that's true. It's very sad. He seems like a nice guy. I think this guy
00:40:52.380killed himself. I know that's going to be really unpopular. You're going to think that I'm part of
00:40:56.080the coverup. You're going to think that maybe I'm an alien. Maybe I ripped my skin off and it turns
00:40:59.380out I'm an alien. I think this guy killed himself. You know why I think he killed himself? Because0.97
00:41:04.140the reporting around this shows that Boulder counter deputies responded to a 911 mental health
00:41:09.600crisis call and saw him shoot himself. They saw it. This guy's co-host, Corey Goode,
00:41:17.420who's a longtime co-host on his UFO show called Cosmic Disclosure. He's already come out. The
00:41:21.900UFO guy, the conspiracy UFO guy who worked with this guy came out and said he killed himself.
00:41:26.980It's very sad, but he killed himself. You know why else I think he might've killed himself?
00:41:30.500Because he claims to have telepathically communicated with aliens.
00:41:34.280and i i think that would be evidence of a mental problem and i also don't think aliens are real
00:41:42.740and i think in as much as they are a phenomenon it's either hallucinations or foreign governments
00:41:48.140or our government or demons but even put that aside whatever you think about aliens
00:41:52.000i think all the evidence says he killed himself and that's very sad and we should pray for him
00:41:58.640uh as for the other scientists i'll try to dig into that a little bit maybe next week maybe
00:42:04.120maybe the end of this week, but I don't, we need to, we need to have a little discipline in how we
00:42:11.640examine evidence guys, because people are spinning a little out of control. You're even seeing
00:42:15.100elected Republicans talking about how ET is about to land from planet Zebulon five and take over
00:42:19.840the world. And I think this is not only kind of dumb, but also spiritually very deceptive.0.98
00:42:27.360And I think if we're going to be the serious party that is in power, that is actually doing0.98
00:42:32.240things to correct the very real tangible threats and spiritual threats coming from the left.
00:42:36.920We need to be serious ourselves, and we don't want to be gullible, and we don't want to be
00:42:40.980taken in by people who are a little off-kilter or who are charlatans. This guy, I think, was
00:42:47.280probably a little more on the off-kilter side of things. We have to be serious.
00:42:53.660I'll go back to the aliens or the demons kind of debate that's broken out online.
00:42:57.900The crazy thing is, for a lot of people in our modern material age, the religious explanation of some of these phenomena is actually much more plausible than the physical ET alien explanation.
00:43:13.600Every culture for all of human history has believed in spirits.
00:43:16.240We know that there are spiritual realities.
00:43:17.780We act as though they exist every day.
00:43:19.100we also know the speed of light and we know that it's highly unlikely that entities from outside
00:43:27.140of our solar system that are physical are making it to earth and hiding and they only ever managed
00:43:31.960to be captured on really grainy footage and we need to we need to re-examine what what is rational
00:43:38.060and irrational we're living in a very irrational age and and so we need to kind of reset our
00:43:42.160standards here for plausibility and credibility okay i have a lot more to get to especially with
00:43:47.600my excellent guest, one of the few regular return guests to the Michael Knowles show about a story
00:43:54.900that I need to know about. I know I'm running late. I don't care. We're going to go late and
00:43:58.280then we're going to get to even more stuff in the member segmentum. I'm talking about Dr.
00:44:02.420Jeremiah Johnston. Jeremiah, thank you for making time last minute to be here.
00:44:08.520Michael, I couldn't be happier to be with you. And that was the perfect setup because how we
00:44:12.260evaluate evidence is essential. There's a lot of credulous people out there, a lot of
00:44:17.460naivete. And that's why I watch Michael Knowles every single day, because you cut through all of
00:44:22.940that. And there's a story out now that's going bonkers that we have to discuss.
00:44:28.060This story, I'm so glad you came on. I mean, you are helping me personally by coming on,
00:44:33.500not to mention helping the audience. Because I saw this story going viral last night. I said,
00:44:37.440I got to cover this on the show. They've discovered Noah's Ark. And I had heard a
00:44:43.100little bit about this, I don't know, six months or a year ago. I didn't pay attention. Now it's
00:44:46.860going viral again on the internet, there's this construction, there's this entity, either natural
00:44:54.020or man-made, that is on the top of a mountain in Anatolia that I guess if you kind of squint,
00:45:01.700it sort of looks like a ship. And there's this guy out there, this researcher, who says it's
00:45:06.400exactly the measurements of Noah's Ark described in the Bible. And we think that we haven't been
00:45:11.240there. We think that there are passageways underneath. We think there might be timber
00:45:15.760holding up part of the structure. And we've found it, guys. We've found Noah's Ark. And I'm there.
00:45:19.920I'll confess. Last night, I say, well, by golly, we might have found Noah's Ark. It all checks out.
00:45:26.460And then a man who spends a lot of time, a man who has doctor before his name,
00:45:32.600spends a lot of time looking into these kind of things. You say it's bunk.
00:45:37.8801,000% inaccurate. I'm sorry. And I want to be kind. I want to be pastoral
00:45:42.320because there's a lot of wonderful Christians out there who want this to be true.
00:45:46.900But again, I deal in the world of evidence.
00:46:26.240They use something called, if you don't mind, GPR, Ground Penetrating Radar.
00:46:30.700Now, anyone who's been to an archaeological dig, as I have, knows that GPR is famously inaccurate in the hill country, in mountainous regions.
00:46:43.660Now, if you and I want to go find manuscripts together in the dry sands of Egypt, now let me tell you, GPR will help with that.
00:46:50.980So they're using something called ground-penetrating radar.
00:46:54.200And here's the fascinating part about this ground-penetrating radar.
00:46:58.860are. Beyond the fact that they're saying they have shafts, that could be water. There are other
00:47:03.420mountain regions that look very similar, honestly, in eastern Turkey. And by the way, if you ever
00:47:09.060fly into Las Vegas, there's one that kind of looks like Noah's Ark there too. These are natural
00:47:13.720geologic formations. Second, when I say it's a contact sport, the scientific consensus is not
00:47:22.080even close. I'm talking about conservative, moderate, myself conservative, but even liberal,
00:47:28.980atheist, agnostic archaeologists all know that this is just to sell books. This is sensationalism
00:47:36.360that catches fire because Christians want it to be true. One of the gentlemen, I don't want to say1.00
00:47:41.880his name because I don't want people to Google it because he's also found the blood of Jesus.
00:47:46.300he's found the Ark of the Covenant. I don't want to say his name because he has no credibility.
00:47:52.740Even his own team has turned on him. And then the final thing that I want to say is
00:47:57.660there's no real archaeologists who are part of this, okay? That's very important to note. And
00:48:04.120when this was carried on Fox and Friends, they said, oh, no, we don't want to do archaeology
00:48:08.120because archaeology destroys the site. Can I just challenge someone right now? I have a nonprofit.
00:48:13.520it. If someone out there wants to give me a half million dollars, myself and my IAA certified
00:48:19.860archaeologist, Scott Stripling, we will go there for a couple of weeks and we will dig down for,
00:48:25.480it costs about a half million, and we will show you Noah's Ark is not there, but no one's willing
00:48:29.700to do that. Does that make sense? Does that help? That is a very important grounding conclusion,
00:48:36.280Jeremiah, because you mentioned the different kind of buckets of researchers. And I say,
00:48:42.120well, yeah, the thing is the libs and the atheists, they're always trying to debunk
00:48:47.360Christianity. They're always trying to debunk faith. They've done it with the Shroud of Turin
00:48:53.100for decades and decades now. And if people haven't watched our specials, I guess, on the
00:48:58.320Shroud of Turin, different commentary elsewhere too, go check it out. Jeremiah makes an incredible
00:49:04.140case. But I say, all right, well, hold on. If the libs agree with the moderates, agree with
00:49:10.200the conservatives agree. And we conservatives, because we're kept out of a lot of the mainstream
00:49:15.280institutions and because a lot of the mainstream institutions are corrupt, I think we have this
00:49:20.700weakness, this vulnerability, totally understandable, but we sometimes follow
00:49:25.620charlatans. We're sometimes a little too credulous. So I'm in some ways sad to hear,
00:49:32.920but I'm glad to know the truth that, okay, this formation, which I looked at, I said,
00:49:37.240I don't know. It looks kind of like a mountain to me. I don't know. Like, I guess if I squint and
00:49:39.960I turn my head, maybe it looks. It's a geologic formation. Yeah. And it's literally called
00:49:44.740Derupinar. It's a mountain that we could go to. And again, it's never been excavated. All this
00:49:50.860is, is GPR. It's like metal detectors. And then these people do this to get headlines and they
00:49:56.100sign books. And I'm kind of frustrated. Can I be frustrated on the Michael Knowles show for a
00:50:01.040second? It's impossible. We try to minimize it, but it happens to me sometimes too. I'm trying,
00:50:04.860you know, and I would have a number one New York Times bestseller if someone hadn't just
00:50:09.820spent 18 days in heaven. It dropped me down to number three. I am tired of Christians.
00:50:16.080We have the dumbest Christians of all time, Michael. And that should not be because it is1.00
00:50:21.560the most exciting time ever to be a follower of Jesus. There is more evidence that undergirds our
00:50:26.480faith than ever before. But instead, we spend our time tracing rabbit trails, quoting people who have
00:50:33.440no credibility. I've actually held the Bible manuscripts. I've been to the Holy Sepulchre
00:50:40.220Church. I've seen where Jesus was resurrected. Let's major on the majors. All these individuals
00:50:45.220that know all these details about the Noah's Ark, can they even defend the resurrection of Jesus?
00:50:51.880Why don't you spend a little talking to me about the book of Enoch, nothing historical? Use that
00:50:56.960time to memorize Greek and Hebrew and then see how much closer to Jesus you are. Sorry to be
00:51:01.240frustrated, but I'm a little tired of the naivete. I'm with you. I'm with you, Jeremiah, because
00:51:07.060you know, I think there is a feeling even among pretty earnest Christians that at some deep down
00:51:13.620level, they're not sure. You know, they're a little fearful of new discoveries that might
00:51:18.740disprove everything. I mean, St. Paul, James Tallarico compared himself to St. Paul just
00:51:22.480moments ago. He did. I heard that. But St. Paul says, you know, look, if the resurrection is
00:51:26.980false were most to be pitied among men. Like it is, it's kind of all on that. It either happened
00:51:32.400or it didn't. So I think there are some Christians who say, I mean, I really, I really want it to
00:51:36.580have happened. I really want the religion to be true. I really want Christ to be who he says he
00:51:39.920is, but I don't, I just don't want too much, no poking around from those scientists. And I say
00:51:44.980the opposite. I say, no, no, poke around. I love it. Let's go. I mean, let's not forget the church
00:51:49.020has been a big promoter of science. They were a little tough on Galileo, mostly because he was a
00:51:53.100jerk, really not even related so much to his science. But the church has been this great0.99
00:51:58.160promoter of science and discovery, founded the universities. Guys, we don't need to be afraid
00:52:02.740of the truth here. We don't need to be afraid of facts. Absolutely. And if we're going to give our
00:52:07.140life to this worldview, we should be skeptical about it. We should be the most skeptical about
00:52:12.800whatever worldview we commit our life to. And what's fascinating about it, I point out in my
00:52:17.820new book, Michael, we can point out 65 facts about the burial, the life, the death, the resurrection
00:52:23.540of Jesus before we ever open the Bible. No other religion can't do that. Islam can't do that.
00:52:28.860Islam ran a New York Times op-ed that the temple never existed. Again, credulous, naivete,0.99
00:52:35.640unbelievable. And I just want to encourage Christians who are well-meaning, who are watching.0.62
00:52:40.520And like this kind of, I hope my mom's not watching right now. This reminds me of the
00:52:44.680early days of Babylon Bee, when my mom would send me Babylon Bee news and be very upset.
00:52:50.640Exactly. And this is what Christians do. My phone has been blowing up that,1.00
00:52:56.060Dr. Johnston, we have finally found Noah's Ark. And no, we haven't.