00:20:08.620Although we don't yet have the details about the motives behind last night's shooting.
00:20:11.860I mean, sure, it was a left-wing teacher in California, liberal, who donated to Kamala Harris and wrote a manifesto saying he did it to shoot Trump and all of Trump's associates.
00:25:28.060January 6th, where the only person killed by political violence on that day
00:25:32.300was a Trump supporter murdered by a trigger-happy cop.
00:25:35.720January 6th, a day that was, we now know, thoroughly infiltrated by the feds.
00:25:41.080And very likely, we don't have firm evidence of this yet,
00:25:43.520but very likely, given the discoveries of the last week,
00:25:46.240very likely promoted by the Southern Poverty Law Center, by the left itself.
00:25:49.520But that's the best they got. Forget about the multiple assassination attempts against Trump,
00:25:55.160one of which blew part of his ear off. Forget about the actual assassination of Charlie Kirk
00:25:58.560by a leftist, then celebrated by large swaths of the left. Forget about the near assassination
00:26:02.600by a leftist of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh. Forget about the countless calls
00:26:07.560for political violence from mainstream leftists in Congress and in the Senate. No, no, no.
00:26:13.640The Horn Hat guy got a private tour of the Capitol on January 6th, five years ago.
00:26:18.400so we won't be lectured. Really, when you really think about it, this is chickens coming home to
00:26:24.820roost. Then when we turn from the elected officials to just the political media on the left,
00:26:31.840you get this guy who goes by Destiny, Stephen Bonnell, who responds to Riley Gaines. Riley
00:26:36.060Gaines says, stop trying to kill our president. Stephen responds, he says, I've never agreed with
00:26:40.760a statement more in my entire life. And this is ironic because it seems like what he's agreeing
00:26:46.840with is the idea that they need to stop killing Trump. But what he's really disagreeing with is
00:26:50.600the word trying. And we know this because of the context of Stephen Bonnell, who has repeatedly
00:26:55.300called for violence against conservatives. In fact, his reaction to the assassination of Charlie
00:26:58.920Kirk was that it is good that conservatives should fear for their lives when they go out
00:27:03.600in public, that we need to intimidate conservatives so they stop talking up in public.
00:27:08.320So there's that response. He goes, yeah, we need to stop trying to kill him. We need to actually
00:27:11.840kill him. Here's Hassan Piker, a more popular left-wing streamer, now feted by the New York
00:27:18.100Times, put on the campaign trail with multiple Democrat elected officials. Here is Hassan Piker
00:27:23.140openly calling for the murder of the president. And you actually wrote about this, and it was
00:27:30.320a great video where you talked about, you know, someone has to do it. See, when I say that,
00:27:37.740Everyone knows exactly what I mean, which which is I think that shows that there is a lot of anger, a lot of resentment and untapped potential, untapped revolutionary potential, as a matter of fact.
00:27:51.080And it's a great opportunity for for organizing, I think, in these.
00:27:55.480So there, Hassan, I think he's sitting next to I think that's Taylor Lorenz, who's a very mainstream left wing new media journalist.
00:28:02.440And he says, yeah, you know, you said someone has to do it.
00:30:30.420for college, I guess. He's been stinking up our country ever since. He's done no good for America
00:30:35.320whatsoever. He said that America deserves 9-11. He has openly called for the murder of Republican
00:30:40.160senators. He called for the murder of Charlie Kirk. He's called for the murder of President
00:30:43.720Trump. He is nothing but a rot, a fetid rot on our body politic. Why do we tolerate that?
00:30:50.020I can think of several reasons, several bases on which to prosecute Hassan Piker
00:30:54.560off the top of my head. I've mentioned a couple of them. He's called for the murder of U.S.
00:30:59.540senators. He obviously violated sanctions in a very specific way when he was in Cuba. He bragged
00:31:04.900about staying at the hotels that the US government tells you you can't stay at. He tortured his dog
00:31:10.520on camera, animal abuse, whatever it is. There are many bases on which to prosecute Hassan Piker.
00:31:15.620Why don't we do it? Ideally, he would be deported back to the backwater in which he grew up.
00:31:22.940In a wiser age, we did that. About 100 years ago, under a Democrat president,
00:31:28.300we did have the palmer raids when people like hassan piker who were radicals leftists anarchists
00:31:33.480were calling for and perpetrating violence against america we just got rid of them we just we
00:31:38.040arrested them we deported them in some cases we could do it again that wasn't even a republican
00:31:41.900administration was a democrat administration if we were a proper country this guy who has done
00:31:46.840nothing but add a fetid nauseous miasma to our country by his very stinky presence here would
00:31:53.660be booted out of the country or at the very least put in prison. But we don't do that. We, in fact,
00:31:59.640allow him to be a major thought leader on the left, and there are no repercussions for anybody.
00:32:05.020This is a big problem, big, big problem. Because what the left is doing very openly
00:32:12.420is calling for and perpetrating violence against the right. And what the right is doing in response
00:32:19.580is saying, you know, gosh, guys, can't we just have more debate?
00:32:24.940You don't have to debate everything. This is a major point I bring up on the show a lot,
00:32:28.880which is that politics is not just a debate club. And the right, as long as it sticks with that
00:32:34.560view, is just not going to make it. It's just not going to get it. You don't have to debate
00:32:38.900Hassan Piker. This is what I feel about a lot of the stupid theories that float around
00:32:44.600on the internet. So the reason I don't even talk about a lot of them is that not everything is
00:32:48.820for debate. Some things require the law, okay? When you make criminal threats, you need to be
00:32:55.120prosecuted. When you defame people, you don't need to be debated exactly. You need to be sued
00:33:01.200into the ground. When you undermine the very political order, you need to be excluded from
00:33:09.840the public square. I said this after Charlie was assassinated. When many of my very well-intentioned
00:33:14.800friends on the right. They said, this just means we need to redouble our efforts for open dialogue
00:33:19.940in the free marketplace of ideas. And I said, no, we tried that. That was what Charlie offered
00:33:25.220to the left and the left murdered him for it and then celebrated his murder. So I think we need to
00:33:29.440try something else. We just need to endlessly talk about all these people. No, I don't think
00:33:34.680that's true. I think we need to prosecute them. I think we need to reestablish standards and norms.
00:33:40.840I think we need to deport a lot of people, as we have done regularly in American history.
00:33:45.760I think we need to enforce standards and norms and, yes, limits to speech, as we have done from the founding of the country until five minutes ago.
00:33:53.800And we didn't even stop five minutes ago.
00:33:55.280We just shifted the standards that we're enforcing.
00:33:57.600Now, if you say that a man isn't a woman, now if you say that a baby is a human being, you will be prosecuted in some cases for that.
00:34:04.740but if you say we should kill the president we should kill a senator
00:34:09.660america deserved 9-11 you face no consequences whatsoever you're promoted
00:34:13.780because of a suicidal misconception of free speech that has taken hold on the right
00:34:18.240the way to fix this is repression to put it bluntly to put it in a provocative way
00:34:26.860that i know many on the right go say well we don't want repression well okay then you're
00:34:30.560going to get left-wing repression. What we did in this country from the colonial era until
00:34:35.800at least, I don't know, the 60s or 70s, is we said we need to discourage certain behaviors,
00:34:42.720obscenity, threats, burning the American flag, which was illegal until very recently.
00:34:48.880The thought that undermines thought, that's the only thought that ought to be stopped.
00:34:53.560And then the right just gave that up because we bought a misconception of free speech that was
00:34:58.760ironically imported from the left. But the left never even really believed it.
00:35:02.860So we'll see. Are we a serious country or not? It's not just the fringe. If it were just the
00:35:09.140fringe, you could sort of tolerate it as an eccentricity of politics. This is the mainstream.
00:35:13.780Do we have just a little supercut? I think we have a little supercut
00:35:16.160of the mainstream of the left actively promoting violence.
00:35:22.920Show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful.
00:36:10.080And if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd.
00:36:21.260and you push back on them and you tell them they're not welcome anymore i could fill up
00:36:29.760five episodes of this show with all the clips of the journalists yes and the entertainers yes
00:36:36.460and the elected officials yes and the thinkers yes and the pundits yet on the mainstream left
00:36:41.020calling for violence against conservatives and so what are we going to do we can either respond
00:36:47.680and say, could you imagine if the shoe were on the other foot? It's not going to work.
00:36:51.960We could either say, we just need more debate. Why don't people debate more?
00:36:55.960It's not going to work. So we need the free marketplace of ideas and not going to work.
00:37:00.080You can't have a free marketplace of ideas or anything else when bandits keep shooting up the
00:37:03.840marketplace. Or you can enforce the laws that are already on the books. You can deport the people
00:37:12.660that are deportable. You can prosecute the people making criminal threats and inciting violence.
00:37:17.300You can wield the law for justice and as the teacher that it is that will improve morale.
00:37:25.520Those are the options, and I just think the right is unwilling to do that.
00:37:29.800What we need is cancel culture, but a good cancel culture.
00:46:23.900And that's obviously different from the decision I made when I was 41 because I already had two kids and we had done IVF.
00:46:31.060So we have, I don't know how controversial this is, but like we have five other embryos on ice right now.
00:46:37.340It's really crazy because I think back to that moment where my husband and I looked at each other and we know that for us, we've only wanted two kids, a boy and a girl.
00:50:23.780A society that commoditizes human life
00:50:25.560such that you can go to the store and buy a baby
00:50:27.220or custom order a baby is not going to thrive.
00:50:29.740A society that calls for the political violence
00:50:32.800against people that you disagree with is not going to thrive. A political society that seeks
00:50:37.100as the only remedy to those problems, endless blabber and blather and debate and podcasts.
00:50:44.700I know it's kind of ironic because I'm on a podcast right now, but I'm offering an alternative
00:50:47.780to the endless debate, free marketplace of ideas, podcast conversation view, which happens to be
00:50:54.020the view that politics has always rested on, which is you have to do things through the law.
00:50:58.520You have to set limits because the law is a teacher, and the ultimate goal of governments is to make the country better, and the way you make the country better is you make the people better.
00:51:08.400And we believed that until relatively recently, and then we flipped it on its head, and we've said our goal is going to be to encourage license.
00:51:15.020We're going to make autonomy the highest possible good.
00:51:17.960We're then going to encourage the worst temptations of the autonomous will, and we're going to make as our ultimate end product making people worse, and that's going to make the country worse too.
00:51:28.520and you might not want to deal with the uncomfortable conclusions that one has to
00:51:33.800draw to fix the problem. But we can't say that we weren't warned. Okay, much more to get to,
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