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00:00:28.000 black people invented democracy according to aoc the moderate democrat presidential

00:00:35.300 candidate confirms that he would trans his underage son and the government prepares the

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00:02:42.200 Breaking news in history, we try to cover the news, the things that are happening right now

00:02:48.640 that are different, that have changed, that we need to be aware of. When the left does, though,

00:02:52.840 what the left does is they make their news in history. So they just rewrite history.

00:02:57.920 And by rewriting history, they try to change the facts of the world today. 0.93

00:03:01.920 So some breaking news from history, according to AOC, black people invented democracy. 0.80

00:03:07.580 There are very few real archetypes of, in my opinion, truly what America is all about.

00:03:23.400 I think about the civil rights and voting rights movement and how black Americans really created democracy in this country. 0.97

00:03:32.040 That's exactly right. 1.00

00:03:33.040 How they literally made something from nothing. 1.00

00:03:36.180 it is just beyond me you know back in the 1970s during the black power movement

00:03:43.640 some black nationalists black activists created this meme where they would just

00:03:49.840 claim credit for everything in history they would claim credit for being the pharaohs of

00:03:54.440 egypt or whatever there's this we were kings in egypt sort of sort of move and so aoc is really

00:03:59.140 just updating this to the founding fathers which we should have seen coming because lin-manuel

00:04:05.220 Miranda made a really famous Broadway musical and then movie about that, where he just took

00:04:10.240 all the founding fathers and made them all black or Hispanic. One time I was in New York, I was

00:04:14.560 debating the black Hebrew Israelites. These are these guys who say that black people are the real 1.00

00:04:19.120 Jews and whites are the devil. And so I was chatting with them. This was many, many years 1.00

00:04:22.860 ago on the show. I was a teenager, maybe 20, 21. And I thought I found the flaw in their argument

00:04:29.780 where they were claiming that black people did all the good stuff in history because they love

00:04:34.580 the King James Bible. They said, the only Bible that you should read is the King James Bible.

00:04:38.120 And I said, well, I found a flaw in your theory of history because King James, you might have heard,

00:04:43.760 was not black. He was a white guy. And they had an answer for this. I was talking to this really

00:04:48.640 funny black Hebrew Israelite. And he said, no, that's where you're wrong, you white devil. 1.00

00:04:52.900 And he just pulled out a poster board and it was King James, but he was black. They colored him in. 0.98

00:04:59.420 And so then it got me thinking, I said, oh, well, maybe in the AOC world, maybe James Madison looks

00:05:07.720 like this. For those of you who are listening, maybe it's just, maybe James Madison was a black

00:05:12.960 guy. But I thought, well, James Madison did not invent democracy. He's the father of our

00:05:16.860 constitution, our system of government, which is largely democratic. But really, democracy goes

00:05:22.480 back to ancient Greece, to the 6th century BC in Athens, Cleisthenes. And then I thought, okay,

00:05:28.480 maybe I just misperceived the marble busts of Cleisthenes. Maybe he was really just like a

00:05:35.680 shaft-looking guy with a big afro, sort of broader, duskier features. The AOC rewrite of history,

00:05:46.240 after I was done thinking about James Madison and Cleisthenes and the Black Hebrew Israelites,

00:05:51.420 I was reminded of probably the greatest YouTube video that has ever existed and that will ever

00:05:57.540 exists. This is from the early days of YouTube, and it was a Ken Burns-style documentary on the

00:06:02.200 old Negro space program. A lot of people today, they don't think about it. They say, oh, they're

00:06:14.860 putting a man on the moon, or oh, they're sending up another space shuttle. But you see, they don't

00:06:22.960 realize that in the early days of the space program, NASA was whites only. 0.83

00:06:32.100 This was, when was it?

00:06:37.140 1957, 58.

00:06:39.420 It was a different time, you understand.

00:06:42.160 See, in 1957, if you were black and if you were an astronaut, you went out of work. 0.90

00:06:52.960 You were, it's too bad. 1.00

00:06:58.340 A prophetic film.

00:06:59.840 They had names like Loopy Louie Hayes, Suitcase Jefferson, and Rocket Randall.

00:07:06.380 What they lacked in technical know-how, they more than made up for in courage and zeal.

00:07:13.560 The courageous heroes of the Old Negro Space Program.

00:07:17.580 The old Negro space program. Once a parody 20 years ago, now just a political talking point 0.92

00:07:27.320 from one of the left's most prominent politicians and indeed a viable presidential candidate.

00:07:34.960 So why is AOC doing this? AOC is doing this because according to the left,

00:07:44.260 it's amazing we talk about how you know it used to be the radical left would call for political

00:07:50.380 violence and socialism and all this stuff and now that's just completely mainstream and the 0.60

00:07:55.120 most milquetoast supposedly moderate democrats are the ones who are transing their kids calling 0.72

00:07:59.260 to murder the president celebrating the murder of ordinary moderate conservatives and so this is 0.94

00:08:05.840 collapsed these two extremes have now collapsed the the old negro space program and a member of 0.85

00:08:13.520 Congress. They've now collapsed. They're the same thing. This is a message to leftists who 0.92

00:08:21.560 want to rewrite history. This is a message to Democrats who want to, I don't know, extol the

00:08:26.940 supposed virtues of the progressive program. Black people didn't have to do everything.

00:08:34.220 Okay? It's not just black people. One group or your favored racial groups or whatever, 0.88

00:08:40.040 they didn't have to do everything. White people can have done something. It's okay. It doesn't 0.77

00:08:47.380 totally destroy progressivism or liberalism if white people ever did anything ever.

00:08:53.820 And to be really fair to AOC, I guess the plausible point she's trying to make

00:08:58.380 is that democracy didn't really exist until 1960s radicalism. True democracy didn't really exist

00:09:06.600 until Democrat policies or whatever. But that just isn't true. That just isn't true. It's okay.

00:09:17.180 You don't make your argument stronger when you say ridiculous things. 0.94

00:09:22.700 And yet that's all they seem to do. Stacey Abrams, speaking of black people in democracy, 0.96

00:09:28.940 Stacey Abrams follows up on AOC's remarks by claiming that there are no longer red states

00:09:35.020 and blue states, there are just authoritarian states and democratic states.

00:09:41.940 Can you give us a sense of what fighting back in this moment is going to look like?

00:09:47.300 It's going to require that we remember we are the United States of America. And so we have to sit

00:09:52.900 what Tennessee is doing next to the fight that's coming out of Louisiana, next to the fight that

00:09:57.620 will follow in Mississippi and likely in South Carolina. We are watching in real time the

00:10:03.720 restoration of the very laws that pretended racial neutrality, but were intended to deny

00:10:11.500 black and brown voters the right to participate in democracy, which is one of the principal goals

00:10:16.800 of authoritarianism. They do not want the people who may disagree with them to be heard. And right 0.96

00:10:23.020 now in the United States, race is the strongest predictor of political leanings. And so it's a

00:10:27.820 lucky twofer. They get the partisanship, but they also get the white supremacy that they seek.

00:10:32.840 And I sat in a hearing yesterday in Nashville, Tennessee, when one when the author of the legislation said, well, this is a conservative state.

00:10:41.440 We should only have conservatives. And they intentionally erased the only black district, one of nine districts, the only one that allowed black Tennesseans to have some voice because they've already cracked Nashville.

00:10:55.960 But we have to remember, this is happening around the country, and it is part of an intentional nationwide pattern of behavior.

00:11:03.360 We can be angry about Tennessee, and we can laud the Tennesseans who have fought back so ably.

00:11:08.480 But we've got to remember, they started in the South, but they're coming for everyone.

00:11:12.480 Okay, so Stacey Abrams is whining because following the Supreme Court's decision in Louisiana versus Calais, 0.95

00:11:18.500 which said that you're not allowed to gerrymander according to racial discrimination,

00:11:21.640 which actually struck down a racist policy. Because of that, Tennessee is redistricted,

00:11:28.440 and now it's a Republican state. And Stacey Abrams is saying, this is horrible. It's kind

00:11:31.680 of ironic coming on the heels of Virginia, just disenfranchising 91%, just a week ago,

00:11:37.220 disenfranchising 91% of Republicans in the state. It's also ironic because that aforementioned

00:11:43.740 Supreme Court decision, Louisiana versus Calais, had its most scorching opinion written by

00:11:49.560 Clarence Thomas, the second ever black justice on the Supreme Court, who wrote an opinion that

00:11:56.660 went even further than Alito, who wrote the majority opinion in the case and said that we

00:12:02.820 need to strike down all of this racial gerrymandering. So it kind of cuts against her

00:12:07.280 argument there. But then there's a third flaw with her argument, which is she says that there's a

00:12:14.620 distinction between authoritarian states and democracy. And the flaw in our argument is not

00:12:19.980 just that Republicans are not particularly authoritarian or that Democrats actually

00:12:23.640 these days are beyond authoritarian. They're totalitarian. They're not merely enforcing

00:12:28.500 a handful of laws for public life, but they're insisting upon a uniformity of thought and

00:12:33.740 behavior and belief for all of life, including private life. But at a basic level, democracies

00:12:40.460 can be authoritarian. There's nothing about democracy that precludes authoritarianism.

00:12:46.840 Democracy is just what most people vote for. Democracies can be libertine. Democracies can

00:12:52.040 be authoritarian. But it shows you that what the libs mean when they use the word democracy is

00:12:55.940 just liberalism. So when the people vote against the Democrats, they argue that it is therefore

00:13:02.860 anti-democratic. But of course, it's not when the democracy is just what most people vote for.

00:13:08.320 The final hilarious thing about Stacey Abrams making this claim, whining about the demise of democracy, is that Stacey Abrams is only famous because she lost Democratic elections. 0.94

00:13:24.760 She lost two of them when she ran for governor of Georgia in 2018 and 2022.

00:13:28.980 She lost Democratic elections and then refused to concede.

00:13:33.640 So she probably still maintains that she is the duly elected governor of Georgia. 0.99

00:13:39.620 So she is most famous for subverting democracy multiple times, or at least attempting to subvert democracy.

00:13:45.720 But it shows you a fundamental either misunderstanding, a profound ignorance about what politics really is and how it pertains to race and democracy and all the rest.

00:13:55.300 Either a profound ignorance or a deceitfulness, a duplicity, and an intent to defraud people by misusing terms and grabbing power at all costs.

00:14:08.840 Regardless, this is the norm now.

00:14:12.920 We used to all make fun of the AOCs and the Stacey Abrams, but these guys are mainstream.

00:14:21.080 AOC could be the Democrat nominee for president.

00:14:23.360 We used to make fun of Hasan Piker as some total wacko left winger. Hasan Piker, while he's calling for the murder of multiple Republican senators, he is being exalted by the New York Times. You're seeing a total collapse of the fringe with the mainstream Democrats. They're the same thing now.

00:14:40.480 the the democrat presidential candidate is a black hebrew israelite effectively there is the

00:14:47.740 the milquetoast moderate liberal is the same thing as the radical socialist they're all the same

00:14:53.360 party they've they've collapsed in on themselves and the the left flank won proof positive of this

00:14:59.040 the most moderate democrat plausible presidential candidate wes moore has just said that he would

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00:16:34.220 PBD, got to give the guy credit, man.

00:16:36.560 This was a great interview.

00:16:37.900 He's interviewing Wes Moore.

00:16:39.460 Wes Moore is the Democrat governor of Maryland.

00:16:41.860 But he's distanced himself in some ways from the radical extremes of the Democrat parties.

00:16:46.660 I'm not beholden to the Democrat party.

00:16:48.960 You know, I'm the sensible, pragmatic, moderate.

00:16:52.200 He's repeatedly said he's not going to run for president.

00:16:54.480 But everyone assumes that he is seriously considering running for president.

00:16:57.240 and so let's test the pragmatic sensible moderate middle of the road as milquetoast as it gets

00:17:03.760 democrat pbd says would you trans your kid your son comes in saying he wants to transition what

00:17:12.320 do you do um well first i mean if it's if you know it's my son so i love him regardless right

00:17:22.180 um and he's always going to have my undying love that's that's me right um i want to make sure that

00:17:32.340 i'm involved in understanding uh where he is uh-huh how he's feeling the way he's feeling uh-huh why

00:17:40.080 he thinks it's important yeah would you do it or not if this is a journey that he wants to go down

00:17:44.480 uh-huh um i want him to always be comfortable in his own skin and i want him to always know

00:17:51.280 that he has a partner in me to help him along that journey would you advise him to wait till

00:17:57.460 he's 18 i i if this is how he is feeling and i feel like i'm i'm closely tied to him i'm not

00:18:05.660 going to advise him on something that he feels is at 14 years old once no i understand it but

00:18:12.840 what i'm saying is what are you the most important thing for me yeah is i want him to feel safe in

00:18:20.180 his own skin, safe in his own decision-making, but also know that at 14 years old, I want to be

00:18:26.620 involved inside of that process as well. I'm not going to condemn him nor castigate him.

00:18:33.940 I'm not going to kick him out of the house. I'm not going to do anything that's going to hurt him,

00:18:39.180 but I just want to make sure that I'm involved. Yeah. Okay. That's a lot of words. He knows that

00:18:43.920 this is an absolutely radioactive issue. This is the most extreme, shocking issue, in many ways,

00:18:51.300 much more so than abortion, even though abortion is graver. But this is just so absurd. I mean,

00:18:57.040 this is what wiped the Democrats out in 2024, this specific issue of transing the kids.

00:19:04.360 And PBD says, would you trans your kid? All these words. Well, I want him to feel comfortable in his

00:19:07.800 own skin. Okay, well, first of all, right off the bat, if you want your kid to feel comfortable in

00:19:11.820 his own skin, surely you would not tell him to radically change his skin, right? You need to

00:19:18.040 feel comfortable with your body. You would not encourage him in the delusion that he is somehow

00:19:23.980 opposed to his body, right? Westmore doesn't quite get that. He doesn't catch that contradiction.

00:19:31.040 He says, I wouldn't kick him out of the house. No one asked if you're going to kick him out of

00:19:34.760 the house. Would you trans your kid? He said, well, I don't want to give him advice either way.

00:19:40.200 You don't want to, you don't want to, I thought you just said you wanted to be there and guide

00:19:43.460 your son. That's the basic role of a father. Now you're not going to give him advice when he says

00:19:47.220 he wants to chop his genitals off. You're not going to give him advice. And so what are you 1.00

00:19:51.480 going to do? Well, I just want to be, I want to journey with him. You want to journey with him.

00:19:55.520 That means you're going to go along with it. And so PBD catches this and he says,

00:19:59.200 would you at least tell him to wait until he's 18 to chop his genitals off? And Wes Moore says, 1.00

00:20:05.100 no, no, I wouldn't. And there it is. There it comes. He's doing his best to dance around the

00:20:10.780 issue, but there it is. Excellent job from PBD here. I mean, really great way to just nail him

00:20:16.520 on the question. And it tells you everything you need to know. Because in many ways,

00:20:23.480 we have succeeded. We have eradicated transgenderism from public life almost 1.00

00:20:28.580 entirely. The thing that I said three years ago at CPAC that got me accused of genocide to make 1.00

00:20:34.360 all these headlines said it was so radical so crazy so extreme no way basically everybody's

00:20:41.120 come around to that even the democrats have really downplayed the trans issue i was speaking to a

00:20:45.840 very prominent democrat uh pundit uh just the other night and he was saying yeah this issue

00:20:52.000 you know we're talking we're talking with a number of people they said this issue is so unpopular for

00:20:56.420 democrats that they kind of have to downplay it but what happens when you drill them on it

00:21:00.540 What happens when you say, okay, I know you want to downplay this because the voters think you're nuts, and you're trying to do the Abigail Spanberger thing where you play the moderate, and then when you get elected, you'll enact the most radical agenda.

00:21:09.620 But push comes to shove. 1.00

00:21:11.420 Do you still support transing little kids chopping off their genitals? 0.99

00:21:16.400 Do you still support that? 0.99

00:21:17.700 The most moderate Democrat presidential candidate says, yep, absolutely.

00:21:21.360 There is no distinction between the fringe, radical, craziest left that Karl Marx could never possibly have imagined and the moderate, sensible, establishment liberal Democrat.

00:21:38.420 There is no distinction anymore.

00:21:40.000 It is gone.

00:21:40.680 the proof of that is all around us on abortion on open borders on but the the real undeniable 0.76

00:21:50.380 heuristic here do you support transing the kids the moderate guy says yes

00:21:55.160 what what moderate dems look to mark hamill mark hamill luke skywalker a guy who is famous for

00:22:02.840 having had one big film role in the 1970s. It's his whole career. And he tries to position himself

00:22:12.460 as just a kind of regular Democrat. He was just campaigning with Barack Obama the other day

00:22:18.560 to launch Obama's presidential library. Barack Obama published a video with Mark Hamill a week

00:22:24.380 ago. Now Mark Hamill posts a picture of Donald Trump dead with a headstone above him, flowers

00:22:32.900 growing out of his body. And it says, if only. Mark Hamill writes, if only. He should live long

00:22:41.320 enough to witness his inevitable devastating loss in the midterms, be held accountable for his

00:22:44.900 unprecedented corruption, impeached, convicted, and humiliated for his countless crimes long

00:22:48.380 enough to realize he'll be disgraced in the history books forevermore. Hashtag Don the Con,

00:22:51.940 if only, and it's a picture of Trump lying dead. This is two weeks after one of Mark Hamill's own,

00:22:57.660 one of Barack Obama's own, just tried to blow Trump's head off along with the entire government

00:23:02.940 at the White House Correspondents' Dinner. That guy wasn't a radical fringe guy. NPR admitted

00:23:08.520 that. NPR was interviewing a left-wing operative named Jared Holt. They were discussing the

00:23:13.520 ideological motivations of the White House Correspondents' Dinner shooter, and they

00:23:16.920 concluded, this is damning, they concluded that the guy wasn't really that radical.

00:23:20.940 He actually believed pretty much just what every Democrat believes.

00:23:24.460 The guy who Barack Obama's publishing videos with days later doubles down on this.

00:23:30.620 A week after another leftist tries to murder Trump.

00:23:33.920 Eight months after a leftist succeeded at murdering Charlie Kirk, the most prominent conservative organizer.

00:23:40.760 That just two months, three months after a leftist nearly murdered President Trump on his golf course.

00:23:47.840 that just a month or two after a leftist blew off part of Trump's ear at a campaign stop in

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00:25:40.840 really, really promoting this story

00:25:43.000 while the establishment media are doing their best to black it out

00:25:45.980 and while the perpetrators of the crimes documented in this story

00:25:50.240 are threatening our very own reporter's life.

00:25:54.680 You have more than 30 charges in court.

00:25:58.080 I mean, that's a very long criminal record.

00:26:00.260 And now you're getting paid to be the owner of a company

00:26:03.200 that helps people's health.

00:26:05.080 I mean, you were arrested for assault.

00:26:08.020 Yes, I do have a lot of records. I was just so dumb. I don't even know what is law. I put in my application. The government's Medicaid, Medicare, they check. They see all my history and they approve the business to operate. 0.99

00:26:28.040 I mean, you were arrested, and you gave a fake name.

00:26:32.080 Yeah, I gave that false name, even that was my name, I gave it.

00:26:36.200 And they charged me with falsification for fake name and stuff.

00:26:40.660 And now you're the owner of a company that's gotten a million dollars from the government,

00:26:46.340 and because the work happens in people's houses, it involves a lot of trust.

00:26:50.380 You're still asking some questions that are very irrelevant and unnecessary.

00:26:58.040 I already know who you are, your parents, and so forth.

00:27:03.700 You know my parents?

00:27:05.280 Okay, so I'm going to have to handle you a different way, okay?

00:27:08.280 I'm calling to warn you.

00:27:09.840 That's what I'm trying to do.

00:27:11.920 So that's a little bit of an edited snippet.

00:27:16.320 We've cut out the part where the guy makes clear that that is not just an empty threat.

00:27:20.560 This Somali guy that our reporter calls says, I know who you are.

00:27:25.120 I know who you are.

00:27:26.120 I know your parents.

00:27:27.720 And this woman comes on at the end.

00:27:29.000 Hey, we're just trying to warn you.

00:27:30.820 You know, we don't want to do this the hard way.

00:27:32.360 That was not just an empty threat.

00:27:34.140 They did know who our reporter was.

00:27:36.100 They did have information.

00:27:37.520 And they are threatening him.

00:27:38.540 And they're threatening his whole family.

00:27:40.360 Because Daily Wire's own Luke Rosiak is calling his people up and saying, hey, you're criminals.

00:27:45.960 You got a rap sheet a mile long.

00:27:47.280 You're bilking the taxpayer.

00:27:48.820 You, just you, an individual, for a million dollars in bogus government services.

00:27:53.540 And that's just a drop in the bucket.

00:27:54.940 That's just the tip of the iceberg.

00:27:57.040 Now, you would think 20 years ago, 25 years ago, maybe right at the end of the Clinton era when

00:28:04.380 the Democrats were still really trying to pretend to be normal. A story like this comes out about

00:28:09.280 massive government fraud. The Democrats would have jumped on this story, even if they don't

00:28:14.940 really mind welfare fraud, even if they think it helps them because they're importing a lot of

00:28:18.840 foreigners and they're trying to build a permanent electoral majority. At the very least, hypocrisy 0.59

00:28:22.360 as the tribute vice pays to virtue, they would have at least pretended to care.

00:28:26.620 Oh, yes, we're going to get to the bottom of this. We need investigations. That's not what's

00:28:29.520 happening here. In this case, in the year of our Lord, 2026, the Democrats are taking the side of

00:28:35.240 the Somali criminals, the fraudsters who are bilking the taxpayers for hundreds of billions 0.94

00:28:40.420 of dollars total between California and Minnesota and Ohio, and who are threatening journalists. 1.00

00:28:47.520 Remember the sacred fourth estate?

00:28:50.440 Remember the importance of this work of journalists who exist to uphold democracy?

00:28:54.900 Except when it's a conservative journalist. 0.84

00:28:57.400 And then, in that case, some Somali criminal threatens to murder his whole family, and the Democrats don't say a peep. 0.94

00:29:03.700 When they do say something, they are speaking out in defense of the Somali criminals. 0.78

00:29:08.840 We are so through the looking glass, folks. 1.00

00:29:11.300 We are so past the Rubicon.

00:29:13.260 I don't know how many metaphors I'm going to have to mix.

00:29:15.800 This is very dangerous, very violent stuff that is coming from the mainstream left.

00:29:22.140 They are telling you this openly at every level of the government, every level of the media.

00:29:27.440 And I think a lot of conservatives, maybe myself included, we want to think that's not possible.

00:29:32.820 We want to just bury our heads in the sand.

00:29:34.920 We want to say, no, they couldn't really mean that.

00:29:37.660 They couldn't really be saying these things.

00:29:39.440 They couldn't really be doing those things.

00:29:40.600 They don't really want to murder Trump.

00:29:41.820 They don't really want to murder us.

00:29:43.740 They don't really want to bilk the taxpayer for hundreds of billions of dollars and give it to 0.97

00:29:47.720 foreign criminals, but they do. But they do. And they've told us this ad nauseum, 0.96

00:29:54.920 ad infinitum, they've told us this. Do we believe that? And do we believe it enough

00:29:59.340 to get past our petty squabbles and get past our disappointments, whatever,

00:30:05.180 and unify to keep these people out of power? It's not just that this is not your grandma's

00:30:11.520 Democrat Party, we sometimes say. This is not the Democratic Party of six years ago.

00:30:18.980 This is Barack Obama's Democrat Party, but Obama was this real transitional figure where

00:30:23.220 he pretended to be the moderate milquetoast liberal, but in fact, he was quite a radical

00:30:26.760 who's publishing videos with a guy who's openly calling for the murder of President Trump.

00:30:30.920 Now, speaking of exposure, you know what today is, don't you? Today is Disclosure Day.

00:30:39.060 the trump administration is reportedly at the behest of congress going to be releasing all

00:30:45.480 sorts of materials on ufos now they call them uaps aliens et coming out today every all you

00:30:52.560 have all these people really building this up in the press for weeks and weeks and weeks one

00:30:56.620 strange phenomenon so all these pastors coming out all of these pastors that no one's ever heard of

00:31:02.960 coming out and saying that they were being briefed by the government on how to prepare the church

00:31:07.580 how to prepare their flock for the shocking revelations

00:31:10.280 to come out of the disclosure of E.T.

00:31:15.300 This year, there is coming a massive disclosure.

00:31:19.280 The truth, as the government knows it,

00:31:22.160 about UFOs and UAPs is going to be disclosed to the population.

00:31:26.720 The Trump administration is going to attempt to make history

00:31:29.920 in an historic announcement where they're going to say

00:31:33.120 that these non-terrestrial, interdimensional beings are real and that we do have unexplained

00:31:40.540 phenomenon among us. This is going to be huge. Many so-called Christians are going to be taken

00:31:46.740 captive by it. We have got to speak on this first. It's time for every single pastor to teach on this. 0.97

00:31:55.220 What does the Bible say about non-human entities? Now, you have noticed that the language has changed

00:32:01.120 in these Department of Defense meetings

00:32:03.720 as well as in these congressional hearings.

00:32:05.900 They're no longer saying extraterrestrial.

00:32:08.320 They're saying non-human entities.

00:32:10.800 Are there non-human entities in the Bible

00:32:13.580 who attempt to influence mankind?

00:32:16.140 The answer to the question is yes.

00:32:18.300 So this is like the most sane version

00:32:22.040 of the pastors coming out and discussing this

00:32:25.920 that I've seen.

00:32:27.860 There are some saying, oh, I met in a trailer.

00:32:29.820 The government came to me.

00:32:30.920 I met in a trailer in the middle of Tennessee and they're telling us we need to prepare the flocks

00:32:35.360 and this is all that. So at a very basic level, what he's saying about non-human intelligence

00:32:42.240 jibing with the Bible is totally right. I don't think aliens really jive with the Bible. I don't 0.95

00:32:47.800 think. I don't know. The church has never definitively ruled on it, but I don't really

00:32:51.560 buy aliens, ET. But non-human intelligence, of course I believe that. Of course there are angels

00:32:57.560 and demons, there is God. And Christ is a man. He's fully man and also fully God.

00:33:05.720 So obviously, there's non-human intelligence. Indeed, it is a non-human intelligence that made

00:33:11.800 us. Though it's a non-human intelligence that is united with human nature in the incarnation.

00:33:17.180 Nevertheless, there are people warning that some of the disclosure is going to contradict the

00:33:23.820 Bible. It's going to make Christians rethink the Bible. That's going to, and that one cannot be

00:33:29.480 true. If you're a believing Christian, you shouldn't be afraid of the disclosure. You should

00:33:35.460 be skeptical of it, but you shouldn't be afraid of the disclosure because we believe that our

00:33:40.840 religion is true. And one of the proofs of the truth of our religion is that it is not just

00:33:45.380 arrived at through deductive reasoning or private revelation, but that God reveals himself in

00:33:51.520 history, in the act of the incarnation, in the nativity and in the crucifixion and in

00:33:56.640 the resurrection. St. Paul tells us if the resurrection is false, then we are most to

00:34:01.840 be pitied. But we take it as a fact that our religion is true. And unlike other religions,

00:34:13.380 religious traditions is proven throughout history that we can see it. And God leaves 0.98

00:34:19.200 of visible church and all the rest. So we don't need to be afraid of this. I know some people

00:34:23.700 from certain religious traditions, they're really afraid of scientific discovery. They

00:34:27.540 really come out strongly against certain scientific theories. And I can at least speak

00:34:33.300 as a macro snapping papist. The Catholic church doesn't do this. The Catholic church has had

00:34:36.760 an astronomical observatory for centuries. It was indeed a Catholic priest who first theorized

00:34:43.300 the Big Bang, which was called the Big Bang because it was being mocked for supposedly

00:34:50.560 vindicating the Genesis account of creation, that God created something out of nothing.

00:34:57.640 Father George Lemaitre, who discovered or theorized the Big Bang,

00:35:00.800 said that he didn't want to delve into the theological implications of it. But that's

00:35:05.580 why people called it the Big Bang. It was a term of derision. So we don't need to be afraid of this,

00:35:09.580 But we should be pretty skeptical.

00:35:11.360 I'm going to make a prediction now.

00:35:13.340 I'm going to make a prediction.

00:35:14.520 As far as I know, the disclosure has not happened yet.

00:35:17.080 Everyone's really, really excited about it.

00:35:19.280 I predict that it will be nothing.

00:35:23.520 I predict that it will be a big bunch of nothing, that there will be no proof of ET,

00:35:29.220 that it will not contradict the Bible, that everyone is waiting for a big nothing.

00:35:36.280 Now, my colleague Matt Walsh is very pro-alien.

00:35:39.580 I don't know. Maybe he's waiting on tenterhooks. I don't know. But I'm laying my prediction out

00:35:44.880 now. The disclosure, which will happen any minute, we'll talk about it on Monday, will be nothing.

00:35:51.380 Now, the one uncomfortable thing here is that that prediction puts me on the same page as Barack

00:35:57.220 Obama, who previously said aliens do exist. He said this on a podcast. And then now he was grilled

00:36:02.700 on this by Stephen Colbert. He says, no, no, no, no, no, no. I was just kidding. Pay no attention

00:36:06.280 of the man behind the curtain.

00:36:07.080 There's no such thing as aliens.

00:36:09.780 Earlier this year, you said of aliens.

00:36:14.120 Yes.

00:36:15.060 Quote, they're real, but I haven't seen them.

00:36:17.440 Then you tried to walk it back the next day.

00:36:20.540 You know no one believed you, right?

00:36:22.960 I thought it was so obvious what I meant.

00:36:25.540 Uh-huh.

00:36:25.940 Yes.

00:36:26.380 Oh, it was obvious what you meant.

00:36:28.220 And we all got the message.

00:36:29.940 Here's the thing.

00:36:30.700 Uh-huh.

00:36:31.360 For those of you who still think that, you know,

00:36:34.800 we've got little green men underground somewhere yeah one of the things you

00:36:39.960 learn as president yes is government is terrible at keeping secrets this idea of

00:36:47.940 conspiracy theories if if there were aliens or alien spaceships or anything

00:36:53.300 under the control of the United States government that we knew about seen

00:36:57.720 photographs what have you I promise you some guy guarding the installation would

00:37:06.660 have taken a selfie with one of the aliens and send it to his girlfriend

00:37:09.960 impress him it would leave there be like hints there'd be like certain hints out

00:37:14.640 there like a presidential center would look like a scout ship that's just come

00:37:18.600 down that would happen that it could happen okay and do you wish they were

00:37:25.720 were real. I actually do. I actually do. Okay. I was agreeing with Obama for the first time in

00:37:32.020 my life. I was agreeing with Obama until that very last bit. I hate to say it. Mark it down

00:37:36.840 in history. I agreed with Obama. Shoot me. Okay. Don't shoot me. I know the libs want to shoot

00:37:41.540 all of us. Don't do that. I did agree with Obama. I did. Okay. Until this thing, I do wish aliens 0.95

00:37:48.020 were real. I see why the libs and the secularists wish that in popular culture, people wish that

00:37:54.680 aliens are real because they have a disenchanted view of the world. In the Middle Ages, people

00:37:59.180 didn't wish that aliens were real. In modernity, we wish that aliens are real because we've decided

00:38:02.960 that angels and demons aren't real, because we've decided that God isn't real, because we've decided

00:38:06.940 that meaning and love and the eternal soul, because we've decided that all of these things

00:38:11.620 that we infer from the creation that we know deep down exist, we've decided that they're not real.

00:38:18.100 So we need something marvelous, and we just make it materialist. We just call them aliens.

00:38:22.980 but aliens are not real and uh angels and demons are real one last thing i know i'm running late

00:38:28.900 i don't care one last thing from that obama interview that is that is much more relevant

00:38:34.080 to all of us barack obama had the temerity to come out and lament that this republican party

00:38:41.940 is very very different from the old republican party and that he wishes he wishes that you know

00:38:48.040 he's so concerned about the republican party that we could just return to the good old days

00:38:51.600 you're right the presidential center is nonpartisan and the reason i want to mention

00:39:00.740 that is because i'm worried about the republican party not just the democratic party

00:39:05.840 when i was president people would ask me well what change would you like to see in washington

00:39:11.880 i'd say i'd love a loyal opposition i'd love a republican party that was conservative in

00:39:21.580 some ways that didn't agree with me on a whole bunch of stuff, but believed in rule of law

00:39:29.980 and judicial independence and empirical evidence and science and wasn't constantly

00:39:38.920 tapping into our worst impulses. And there has been a Republican Party like that in the past,

00:39:46.060 and I want to see that returned because I think you have to have two healthy parties.

00:39:49.660 Barack Obama, who said in May of 2011, he said, some people want me to issue an executive amnesty

00:39:56.720 without the involvement of Congress. But I can't do that. That's not how democracy works.

00:40:01.900 One year later, he issued the executive amnesty for 835,000 illegal aliens that he himself had

00:40:09.920 already admitted was unconstitutional. He has the temerity to talk about the rule of law. If only

00:40:15.280 we had the rule of law. If only we had judicial independence. This man's party, this man who

00:40:20.480 broke a lot of tradition at the State of the Union criticizing the Supreme Court for a decision

00:40:24.660 in Citizens United to allow free speech and elections. And this man whose Senate majority

00:40:30.300 leader, Chuck Schumer, went out and threatened Supreme Court justices, one of whom had a liberal

00:40:36.960 from California show up at his house and try to kill him and potentially his whole family.

00:40:40.020 he saw if only we had a loyal opposition weren't threatening the rule of law 0.55

00:40:45.400 the the gall is shocking but the longing is real what is he really longing for he's not longing

00:40:53.560 for a republican party that supports the rule of law we've we've restored the rule of law he's not

00:40:57.740 longing for a republican party that respects judicial independence the republicans the

00:41:01.960 conservatives have been far more in favor of judicial independence than the democrats who

00:41:06.140 have been rather activist. Then the Democrats, who infamously, going back now some 80, 90 years,

00:41:12.740 famously threatened to destroy the Supreme Court if they didn't rubber stamp FDR's New Deal

00:41:18.120 programs, which they had been regularly, rightly pointing out were unconstitutional.

00:41:23.720 What Barack Obama is longing for is an ineffective Republican Party. That's what he's saying.

00:41:29.560 He's concerned because the Republican Party wins. We have unified government now. The Republican

00:41:32.980 Party won the popular vote for the first time in 20 years thanks to President Trump. The Republican

00:41:37.060 Party is on the right side of all of the issues, virtually all of the issues, according to public

00:41:41.120 opinion polls. And the Democrats are so politically frustrated that they have now resorted openly to

00:41:49.640 calls to kill us, to say nothing of packing the Supreme Court, of undermining election rules and

00:41:58.580 the like. That's what he says. I just wish we'd get back. I'm concerned. I want a good Republican 0.91

00:42:05.000 party that can always lose, but that can legitimize the Democrat party rule. Because if we just take

00:42:11.160 power and we kill all our enemies, then we're going to look like we're tyrants. We're going 0.97

00:42:15.620 to look like autocrats. So what we need is a Republican party that is a Potemkin party. It's 0.98

00:42:21.660 a Republican party that seems like it's an opposition, but actually just rolls over and

00:42:24.720 does whatever we say.

00:42:26.280 That's what I long for.

00:42:27.640 Yeah, sorry, we're not giving it to you.

00:42:28.980 We're going to be the Republican Party that wins.

00:42:31.060 We're going to be the Republican Party that wields power.

00:42:33.020 We're going to be the Republican Party

00:42:34.180 that deports a lot of people.

00:42:35.720 We're going to be the Republican Party

00:42:36.840 that prosecutes guys in your party who commit crimes.

00:42:39.360 That's the Republican Party we're going to be.

00:42:40.620 Or there's no need for a Republican Party.

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00:44:28.780 good morning michael this is arun so i want to get your take on the recent pair of groyper

00:44:34.240 candidates in the midterm primaries specifically casey putsch who called vivek a foreign invader

00:44:40.240 who should be shot, and for some reason glazes Hitler and has beer hall rallies, and James

00:44:46.840 Fishback, who calls his opponent Byron Donald's racial slurs that I probably shouldn't repeat 0.79

00:44:52.840 on your show. Now, at least in Putsch's case, he was categorically rejected by Republican

00:44:58.980 voters in a primary, and it looks like James Fishback is going to do even worse. So I'm

00:45:04.700 curious, why do you think these two people are taking actions that serve no other purpose

00:45:10.340 than to malign Republicans as racist when we are going into a general election that we need to win?

00:45:17.420 Thank you, as always, for your wisdom. Excellent question, Arun, because it allows me to make the

00:45:21.720 point, you know how much I hate to say I told you so, it allows me to make the point that I might be

00:45:25.660 the most vindicated man in podcasting. You know, I hate to brag, but I think I might be the most

00:45:32.320 vindicated man in podcasting, because when all the podcast wars were going on with all the

00:45:37.260 radicalism and the sensationalism and a lot of insults and the supposed civil war that the

00:45:43.780 podcasters represented within the Republican Party, I came out as the voice of one crying

00:45:50.840 in the wilderness. And I caught so much flack for it from everybody. I came out and I said,

00:45:56.420 I don't think that this is a politically serious phenomenon. I think this is a media

00:46:01.880 phenomenon. I think it is a phenomenon that might change views and clicks, but it doesn't really

00:46:07.160 change votes. It is metapolitical, not properly political. It doesn't really have to do with the

00:46:13.520 things that we all say that we're doing, which is trying to win elections, pass policies, and

00:46:18.240 advance the common good of the people. I said, I think this is kind of a distraction, and we

00:46:22.840 shouldn't allow ourselves to be dragged down into it. And I was 100% correct. I was 150%

00:46:31.860 correct about this. I got a question actually about this at TPSA. I was there with Matt at

00:46:36.680 University of Idaho when Erica very kindly invited us to do one of the stops on the TPSA tour.

00:46:43.500 And someone said, Michael, you've claimed that a lot of this, the kind of podcast war stuff

00:46:49.900 is not really all that politically serious. But James Fishback, who is one of the candidates

00:46:55.760 you're referencing in Florida, he's running for governor. And I said, right, he's running for

00:47:00.980 governor. He's pulling it like 2%. So that totally makes my point. The guy who was just running,

00:47:07.320 where was that? I don't even remember his name. Casey Putsch, the guy who was running in Ohio.

00:47:12.400 The fake blew him out of the water. It wasn't even close. And so what is this really about?

00:47:18.720 Well, I don't think, as you're suspecting, Arun, I don't think it's that these are sleeper cell

00:47:23.620 Democrat candidates who are being sent here by the CIA to undermine the Republicans' chances.

00:47:29.240 I don't think it's that. I think that my thesis is still right. My thesis is obviously right,

00:47:36.300 but I think it's fully right. I think it's comprehensively right. Not just that the podcast

00:47:42.340 war clickbait kind of edgelord posting is not properly political, but that even the candidates

00:47:49.640 who are running in this way are really doing media. They're really chasing clicks more than

00:47:54.600 they're chasing votes, which is fine, I guess. I'm in media. I'm in political media, so I get it.

00:48:00.960 I don't really do that so much, but I get it. But they're playing a different game. The incentives

00:48:06.440 of people who are doing media, especially new media, are just different from the incentives

00:48:10.800 of the people who are doing politics, who are running for office, who are trying to pass laws.

00:48:15.420 So the candidates who run this way are going to get a ton of heat online. They're going to get a

00:48:19.420 ton of clicks, a ton of views. They can launch podcasts. They can go on shows, whatever.

00:48:24.600 But they're not going to win votes, and they're not going to win elections, and I don't even think that's really what they're after.

00:48:28.700 Okay, next question.

00:48:31.400 Hey, Michael, Giorgio here.

00:48:33.740 Since the left is obviously trying to kill us and wants us dead, when is armed resistance justified?

00:48:42.640 Hello, federal agent.

00:48:43.760 Yes.

00:48:44.760 Hello.

00:48:45.360 Hello.

00:48:46.200 From federal agent 325.

00:48:48.340 Hey, Michael, when are we going to go murder the Democrats?

00:48:50.980 I don't think we should do that. 0.52

00:48:52.680 I think that would be a bad idea.

00:48:53.840 because violence properly belongs to the civil authority.

00:49:01.160 Vigilantism is wrong, and revolution is wrong in virtually all cases.

00:49:07.520 If what you're saying is the libs are trying to kill us,

00:49:10.020 and therefore at a certain point it could get bad enough

00:49:12.260 that we need to take up arms against them, what is that point?

00:49:16.980 Let's say that point would be when the civil authority is in total collapse.

00:49:20.400 this draws on just war tradition as we've spoken about a lot lately especially in regard to the

00:49:27.220 iran war this draws from saint thomas aquinas who it's been several hours since i've mentioned

00:49:31.560 saint thomas but it's not that one can never take up arms against a tyrannical power but it has to

00:49:37.340 be really extreme and even in that case a revolution needs to be uh undertaken according

00:49:44.560 to the principles of subsidiarity so by some form of authority in fact that is how the american

00:49:49.320 Revolution took place. It's one of the things that distinguished it from the French Revolution.

00:49:52.860 But if you're asking when should we pick up our guns and start slaughtering the libs, 0.94

00:49:58.040 the answer is basically never. Or at the most extreme situation, you would have to have

00:50:03.780 the entire collapse of anything resembling a civil authority. You'd have to be in Mad Max,

00:50:09.480 basically, for that to make sense. Okay, much more to get to, written mailbag, call in mailbag. But

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The Michael Knowles Show - May 08, 2026

Ep. 1970 - AOC Claims Black People Invented Democracy

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