The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1986 - The Horror： They Just Won't Let Pride Month Die

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00:00:30.000 since we last spoke some 20 hours ago, the United States and Iran were on the brink of a peace deal

00:00:36.180 to reopen the Strait of Hormuz and end the war. Then Iran said the deal was off because the

00:00:42.960 Israelis were bombing Lebanon. Then Trump said he didn't care if the Iranians stopped the

00:00:48.740 negotiations. It was fine by him. And then Trump called Netanyahu and Hezbollah and told them to 1.00

00:00:56.040 stop shooting each other and they agreed to stop shooting each other. And then Trump said the

00:01:00.600 negotiations were back on. That's all happened since I was speaking to you 24 hours ago. Not

00:01:05.880 even 24 hours ago. I'm filming this show slightly earlier than usual because I'm flying to the UK

00:01:10.640 because I'm not Hassan Piker. So in the short period of time between when this show was filmed

00:01:15.800 and when this show will air, the situation will likely have changed several dozen more times.

00:01:21.280 But, and this is the crucial point, the fundamentals of this war actually have not changed at all.

00:01:28.960 My position on this war is exactly what it was before the war started, as the war was beginning, as the war continued.

00:01:34.960 This is, in fact, one of the few instances when I actually hate to say I told you so.

00:01:39.220 We'll get to what it means then.

00:01:41.400 Speaking of fire and brimstone raining down from the sky, it's Pride Month, albeit a relatively subdued Pride Month,

00:01:47.200 since the American people are clearly sick of the weird sex stuff.

00:01:50.620 we will get to the worst offenders, which it pains me to say, includes my beloved New York

00:01:57.080 Yankees. Yankees, you don't have to go gay. You're not the Mets. You don't need to, but they felt 0.99

00:02:02.580 like they had to do it anyway. Then speaking of New York sports, the Giants are in disarray after

00:02:07.120 quarterback Jackson Dart commits the unforgivable sin of introducing the president of the United

00:02:11.660 States. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.

00:02:20.620 welcome back to the show hey what do you think about israel

00:02:35.560 what do you just like let me know in the comments just let me know what you think about israel

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00:04:36.720 speaking out not speaking of israel exactly totally but speaking of the middle east more

00:04:41.560 broadly the iran deal i'll give you the quick rundown you got most of it in the introduction

00:04:45.080 the the deal was on and then it was off and then it might be on again says trump but the irgc the

00:04:51.660 iranian revolutionary guard corps says there is no deal on and i guess the americans are negotiating

00:04:56.840 with the iranian government people like the foreign minister but the government doesn't

00:05:01.340 even really have control over the revolutionary guard corps and even the government is pretty

00:05:05.140 irritated because Israel keeps attacking Lebanon. And Lebanon is not Iran, but Lebanon has Iranian

00:05:12.900 proxies in it, notably Hezbollah. Hezbollah attacks Israel. So Israel wants to preempt any

00:05:19.380 further attacks if there is a peace deal. And so now there might be a peace deal, according to

00:05:24.560 Trump, but the Iranians haven't said that much about it. And that's where we're at, I guess.

00:05:32.220 According to the CBS reporting, an Iranian news outlet linked to the IRGC says they're

00:05:37.960 going to suspend all their indirect talks with the U.S.

00:05:40.020 Even the talks are not even totally direct.

00:05:42.120 The Pakistanis seem to be playing some role in mediating the ceasefire.

00:05:46.780 But the Iranians are saying, well, we don't have a ceasefire because Israel's attacking

00:05:50.620 Lebanon.

00:05:51.000 And the U.S. says, well, hold on, Israel attacking Lebanon has nothing to do with the ceasefire

00:05:55.820 between the United States and Iran.

00:05:58.200 But Iran says it has everything to do with the ceasefire because the war is not just between Iran and the U.S.

00:06:03.140 It's between Iran and the U.S. with Israel.

00:06:06.020 And that's why Iran isn't hitting America.

00:06:08.380 Iran is hitting our Gulf allies like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait and Oman and the UAE.

00:06:14.820 And so where are we at?

00:06:17.840 In the meantime, the U.S. has intercepted two Iranian missiles that the Iranians sent targeting U.S. forces in Kuwait.

00:06:24.520 That was early Monday.

00:06:26.840 Then, I'm very sad to say, four U.S. service members and three contractors were hit

00:06:32.280 when the Iranians hit Kuwait. 0.99

00:06:34.580 Now, thankfully, the service members seem to be okay. 0.93

00:06:36.980 They returned to active duty 24 hours later.

00:06:39.600 But we're not even just dealing with the hardliners of the IRGC

00:06:42.340 because the Iranian foreign minister Abbas Aragchi says that this U.S.-Iran ceasefire

00:06:48.180 has to be unequivocally a ceasefire on all fronts, including Lebanon,

00:06:52.440 which Israel doesn't want. 0.94

00:06:54.760 So then Trump's got to rein in the Israelis. 0.63

00:06:57.080 And he was talking to Hezbollah. 0.88

00:06:58.600 And they say for now they're going to stop shooting each other. 0.57

00:07:01.320 But Hezbollah and Israel shooting each other is one of the most popular sports in the Middle East.

00:07:06.960 So what? 0.96

00:07:09.720 Now we're hearing that there is another chance.

00:07:14.700 Talks are continuing at a rapid pace with the Islamic Republic of Iran, according to President Trump.

00:07:19.560 Thank you for attention to this matter.

00:07:21.280 Trump has also said Iran really wants to make a deal.

00:07:23.580 and it'll be a good one for the US and those that are with us, but don't trust the Democrats and

00:07:29.980 various seemingly unpatriotic Republicans. They don't understand that it is much tougher for me

00:07:35.400 to properly do my job and negotiate when political hacks keep negatively chirping

00:07:38.740 at levels never seen before over and over again, that I should move faster or move slower or go to

00:07:42.840 war or not go to war or whatever. Here, I think Trump is actually capturing the dynamics of the

00:07:48.360 situation in Iran, which is just, there's really no big win here. So then Trump concludes it. He

00:07:54.060 says, just sit back and relax. It will all work out well in the end. It always does.

00:07:58.100 President Donald J. Trump. Okay. This to me means that the fundamentals of this war have not

00:08:05.460 really changed. Before the war kicked off, I argued against further strikes on Iran. Don't

00:08:12.940 forget, we already had the strikes on Iran last summer on the Fordow nuclear sites that went 1.00

00:08:16.340 pretty well. But this latest round, Operation Epic Fury, I argued against escalating the war

00:08:22.220 with Iran. Obviously, my views did not prevail. No one invited me to the National Security Council.

00:08:27.740 So as the strikes kicked off, I was in this chair on this network, and everybody was all excited 0.94

00:08:33.100 about the war with Iran. And I was the voice that said, well, hold on, guys. I don't know that it's 0.95

00:08:37.380 going to work out that well. If it does work out, it's the greatest masterstroke of US foreign

00:08:41.400 policy since the fall of the Berlin Wall. But if it doesn't work out, it could actually imperil

00:08:46.840 Trump's entire legacy as Iraq and Afghanistan did to Bush. And I said, this is a huge, huge gamble 0.92

00:08:52.900 here. And I think that the situation is really tough. I don't really see how you're going to get

00:08:58.900 a satisfactory outcome. Part of what's going on here with the Israel bombing Beirut

00:09:04.280 is that the US and Israel have diverging interests here. Because if I'm the prime

00:09:10.280 minister of Israel, I don't want this war to end. I don't want this war to end in the sense that

00:09:15.580 Israel's popularity in the United States has crumbled, including with Republicans. It long 0.60

00:09:20.640 ago crumbled with left-wing Democrats. It's been crumbling with moderate Democrats, if there are

00:09:25.260 any of those left. And now it's really getting hit with Republicans, especially with younger

00:09:29.760 Republicans who really don't like the state of Israel. So if I'm the state of Israel, this is my

00:09:33.640 last shot to have U.S. backing with a strong ally like President Trump. So I want this war to go on

00:09:38.660 as much as possible. I want to pummel the Iranian proxies in Lebanon and I want regime change in 1.00

00:09:43.900 Tehran. But if I'm the president of the United States, I don't want this war to keep going on

00:09:48.800 because Iran is much more of a direct threat to the state of Israel. I don't think that it's very

00:09:53.760 likely that we'll have regime change in Iran. I think that's a much more durable regime than a

00:09:57.600 lot of the Warhawks pretended that it was. So I don't think you're going to have a lot of,

00:10:01.480 a very reasonable probability of success on that front. You could end up in a situation where the

00:10:07.260 regime that replaces it is even worse, or there's civil war chaos, which would not be good for US

00:10:11.660 interests. And so I just don't think from a standpoint of proportionality, it's a great idea.

00:10:17.440 So if I'm in the US position right now, I want a peace deal, which President Trump obviously wants, 0.91

00:10:22.960 but that puts him at odds with Israel. And so the US and Israel, while we have plenty of shared

00:10:28.280 interests, here we have diverging interests. And that's brutal because the US and Israel are the 0.93

00:10:33.020 chief belligerents in this war against Iran. What this means to me is what I've said from the very,

00:10:38.600 very beginning. I've been totally consistent. I will get absolutely no credit for it because I

00:10:44.760 haven't been hysterical like many podcasters. I haven't been whining and crying about things that

00:10:48.700 absolutely cannot change because the die is cast. I've been very even keel, very level-headed,

00:10:54.040 very reasonable this whole time. I'll get no credit for it whatsoever. It's fine. It's fine.

00:10:58.380 It's fine.

00:10:59.020 I'm not angry about it.

00:11:00.260 But what I've said from the beginning is there are really two ends to this war, I think.

00:11:05.160 One end is we get a peace deal that most people probably aren't going to like that much,

00:11:09.800 but whatever, we deal with it, we move on. 0.68

00:11:12.080 Or we escalate it significantly, and you get something like a ground war in Iran.

00:11:16.920 You get something like regime change in Iran, which is going to have a lot of fallout where

00:11:20.500 there's no domestic political support for it whatsoever, where it could really, really

00:11:24.560 risk President Trump's legacy in derailing the administration's agenda. So between those two

00:11:29.440 options, seems to me the better choice is to take a peace deal, even if it's not that great, even if

00:11:33.960 it includes a lot of stuff that we don't like. That seems likely to me. Now, the criticism that

00:11:39.700 Trump's going to face if that happens is, well, we already had a peace deal. It was called the

00:11:43.360 JCPOA, which was negotiated by Barack Obama. And it was capping the Iranian nuclear capacity,

00:11:47.900 and it was Trump that ripped that up. And so that's what you're going to hear from Democrats.

00:11:51.560 That's what you're going to hear from even Republicans who are opposed to Trump now. 0.69

00:11:55.360 Now, the problem with that argument is, in fairness, the Iranians were kind of complying with the JCPOA when it comes to their enrichment. 0.76

00:12:02.860 The JCPOA said that it was going to push the Iranians' breakout time to about a year. 0.71

00:12:11.080 So if the Iranians started violating the JCPOA, which we would certainly know somehow, then they would have about one year before they got a nuclear weapon.

00:12:19.020 There were more aggressive analyses, though, more skeptical analyses, even at the time, that said Iran's breakout time was going to be about three months, even under the Obama deal.

00:12:27.520 It's one of the reasons that Republicans, and Trump in particular, said the Obama deal is no good.

00:12:31.860 On top of that, the JCPOA did nothing to reduce Iran's ballistic missile capacity, and one of the arguments for this war that we're currently engaged in is that it's not that Iran was so close to a nuclear weapon.

00:12:43.520 It was that Iran was so close to a point of immunity, after which they had so many ballistic missiles that you wouldn't be able to stop them if they decided to greatly increase enrichment of the nuclear program. 0.52

00:12:54.040 So you're in just a terrible situation.

00:12:56.800 Both sides, the super hawkish side and the super dovish side, are really seriously oversimplifying this issue, which has not begun under Trump's second term or in Trump's first term. 0.88

00:13:07.560 This has been going on for 47 years now, and the Iranians obviously want a nuclear weapon.

00:13:10.740 but facing a situation where you have only bad options seems to me if you two options are get a

00:13:17.760 deal whatever the deal is just get it or greatly escalate the war in iran if i'm president trump

00:13:24.480 and i want to protect my legacy and i want to more importantly even for from our standpoint

00:13:29.160 protect the domestic agenda and the rest of the geopolitical agenda i'm going to do my very best

00:13:34.540 to get a peace deal here and the die is cast there's nothing there's nothing good that can 0.96

00:13:39.520 possibly come from whining and crying and sobbing and saying Trump's the worst guy ever. And, you 0.98

00:13:44.540 know, this is the worst war ever. There's nothing good that can possibly come from that. And there

00:13:49.040 were arguments to make the strikes. And Trump does have a good record on foreign policy.

00:13:53.680 But you got those two options now in a brutal situation for the president. I'm really glad

00:13:58.900 I'm not sitting behind the resolute desk right now. Between those two, I want to get a deal.

00:14:03.500 I want to reopen the Strait of Hormuz. I want 20% of the world's oil supply to move through there.

00:14:07.080 I don't want gas to go up to six, seven bucks a gallon. I don't want the midterms to be a blowout.

00:14:12.440 We have scored some tactical wins in Iran, blown up a lot of their nuclear program, 0.65

00:14:18.480 destroyed their ballistic missiles, sunk a lot of their Navy. So you can claim a lot of victories 0.97

00:14:21.800 here. You could even claim that whatever deal Trump gets is going to be better than the JCPOA

00:14:27.360 because it's got more teeth and Iran's had more pain inflicted on it. But I take the deal. I'm 0.70

00:14:31.680 for the deal. We'll see if a deal can actually happen. Okay. Speaking of fire and brimstone,

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00:15:58.860 Folks, it's Pride Month.

00:16:01.700 It seems subdued.

00:16:03.860 just the other night not to tell tales out of the home but sweet little lisa turned to me she goes

00:16:07.760 mag it doesn't it kind of seem like there's not a lot of pride stuff going on i said well girl

00:16:14.380 it's still may you know isn't may pride june but she made the good point she said yeah but it's

00:16:18.180 used to be you start hearing about this in march april may you know it's just going on in here

00:16:23.000 and you're not really hearing very much and now we're in june and you're not you're really not

00:16:27.940 hearing a ton about pride i think this is because pride is mostly over and the reason pride is

00:16:33.700 mostly over for now is because of the popular vote victory in 2024, during which time Republicans

00:16:38.480 campaigned against all the weird LGBT stuff and the corporations and the Democrat politicians got 0.81

00:16:44.380 the message. So they're trying to downplay it. They haven't given up on it. They want to bring 0.97

00:16:47.480 it back, but they want to downplay it for now so they don't get totally blown out in the marketplace

00:16:50.860 or at the ballot box. Some libs haven't gotten the message. Here is J-Lo, the ageless J-Lo 0.67

00:16:57.340 with her pride message.

00:17:01.020 Hi, beautiful people.

00:17:02.400 It's Jennifer Lopez, star of Office Romance,

00:17:04.500 and I am here to wish you a very happy Pride Month.

00:17:08.060 Let's be honest, you deserve all 12 months of the year,

00:17:10.740 so make sure this one is extra, extra special.

00:17:14.240 In fact, you officially have permission to skip work.

00:17:17.860 Just tell your boss, Jennifer Lopez said it was okay.

00:17:21.360 I am sure they'll understand.

00:17:22.880 But in all seriousness,

00:17:24.700 is I hope all of your months are filled with love, laughter, joy, and chosen family. And if you're

00:17:30.420 not out yet, that's okay. We're here and we're waiting for you whenever you're ready. No rush,

00:17:35.580 no pressure, just love. Now let's get loud and proud this month. I love you. Happy Pride.

00:17:44.900 Chosen family. That's the weirdest phrase from that to me. What is chosen family?

00:17:48.860 there's there's not really any such thing as chosen family other than you choose your spouse

00:17:55.820 but then you're stuck with your spouse forever so at that point it ceases to be a choice but

00:17:59.320 one of the defining features of family is families not chosen you choose your friends

00:18:05.340 you can choose your colleagues to some degree your business partners and stuff

00:18:09.580 but you don't choose your family a chosen family is a contradiction in terms yet another reminder

00:18:16.320 that all of the pride activism

00:18:17.720 is simply about attacking the family 0.76

00:18:21.280 and about attacking normal relationships 1.00

00:18:24.180 between men and women

00:18:25.080 and the fundamental building block of society.

00:18:29.720 And I think maybe J-Lo has some family LGBT stuff.

00:18:33.000 I don't know.

00:18:33.460 But in any case,

00:18:34.580 it's notable that she's not,

00:18:37.200 you know, a lady doesn't tell her age. 1.00

00:18:38.540 She's no spring chicken. 1.00

00:18:40.300 It's not all the hottest young stars

00:18:42.400 who are really out there with the pride stuff.

00:18:44.080 Pride feels dated to me.

00:18:46.320 It feels kind of passe. 1.00

00:18:47.720 It's kind of like your boomer relatives growing up

00:18:51.280 when they were just like trying to relive

00:18:52.580 the hippie days of the 1960s.

00:18:54.840 Try to relive their cool years in the 70s.

00:18:56.840 And you just felt like, ah, that's over, guys.

00:18:58.620 Come on, get with the times.

00:18:59.520 That's how I feel about the pride stuff.

00:19:00.960 But some of these corporations are still pushing it.

00:19:03.260 Sesame Street, oh, this was a sad one

00:19:05.000 because my kids do like

00:19:06.540 at least some of the Sesame Street songs.

00:19:09.540 Sesame Street comes out. 0.90

00:19:10.760 Happy Pride Month from Sesame Street.

00:19:12.140 Join us in celebrating and uplifting

00:19:13.480 the LGBTQIA plus members of our community. And I guess I shouldn't have been surprised by this one

00:19:20.600 because a lot of people don't know this. Do you know Joey and Davey monkeys? They're kind of minor

00:19:26.320 Sesame Street characters, but the two monkeys, Joey and Davey, those are actually who the pox

00:19:33.700 was named after. That's where you get it. So it's no surprise Sesame Street returning, but pretty

00:19:39.820 creepy because sesame street is just to kids and they didn't get the message they didn't get the

00:19:44.320 message from 2024 got to tune it out some of the some of the elmo songs are kind of cute but

00:19:48.980 otherwise that's over and then the one that hurt me the most there's my yankees i was i was looking

00:19:55.580 i i said okay a lot of sports leagues are going to be pushing this but baseball is is one of the

00:20:01.660 more normal sports leagues one of the more conservative one of the more normal and i'm

00:20:05.840 looking at some of the teams falling and I said, no, please. I'm actually, Davies and I, Mr. Davies

00:20:10.040 and I were refreshing our pages. No, please. Not the Yankees. Not the Yankees. No! Happy Pride Month

00:20:18.740 says the New York Yankees with a rainbow flag in the Yankees. No! You don't. You don't have to do

00:20:27.100 this, Yankees. You're not the Mets. You don't. The Mets do that. I'm not even, I'm half joking,

00:20:31.960 but their Mets is, that's a more liberal team. It's a little weirder. It's a little,

00:20:36.660 Yankees, you're the one, you remember the good Steinbrenner era? You weren't even allowed to

00:20:40.140 have a beard. Now you're not allowed to have a beard, like in the sense of a gay guy having a 1.00

00:20:45.580 wife. You can't even, no, it's all gay. You don't have to, oh, you don't have to do this, guys. 0.99

00:20:53.020 Who is this for? We won the popular vote running against the rainbow. You don't, 0.54

00:20:58.900 You don't have to do that.

00:21:01.460 The MLB broadly.

00:21:02.440 I mean, obviously it was the MLB

00:21:03.340 that made them do this,

00:21:04.060 but the MLB posts

00:21:05.040 from the bleachers to the ball field.

00:21:08.840 I shouldn't,

00:21:09.860 this is very immature,

00:21:10.840 but the ball field

00:21:11.980 was what made me.

00:21:13.300 From the bleachers to the ball field,

00:21:14.580 everywhere in between,

00:21:15.320 baseball is for everyone.

00:21:16.520 Hashtag pride.

00:21:17.500 It's for everyone,

00:21:18.140 except for kids 1.00

00:21:18.760 and Christians,

00:21:21.280 religious Jews,

00:21:22.280 Muslims,

00:21:23.740 normal people 1.00

00:21:24.440 who don't want weird sex stuff

00:21:26.540 just constantly foisted upon them.

00:21:28.240 it's for everyone and by everyone they mean for like two percent of the population apparently

00:21:33.600 i'm not going to go when when mlb got into blm they even put blm reversing mlb on the pitcher's

00:21:41.260 mounds during the year of our floyd i actually canceled my mlb subscription i did not watch

00:21:45.760 baseball for years other than occasionally if it was on at a bar or something and then i finally

00:21:49.540 i was like whatever i gave up on my boycott i like the yankees too much and then this isn't

00:21:54.380 going to make me boycott it because it seems so lame and minimal and under duress, but

00:21:59.580 you don't, guys, you don't have to do it. The tide is turning away from this stuff.

00:22:05.780 Even the New York Times is admitting it. The New York Times, beautiful guest essay,

00:22:09.860 we are sliding back into the Middle Ages, to which I say, don't threaten me with a good time.

00:22:15.360 This is one of my favorite, it's not even predictions, it's wish casting being proven

00:22:19.300 true. All the libs and even some of the fancy Republicans and conservatives, they made fun of

00:22:23.760 me a year or two ago because i came out and i said guys it's not enough to just be like the

00:22:29.720 libs were two years ago don't be squishy don't you i don't want to return to 2012 i want to

00:22:36.300 return to 1220 we can keep some modern things like modern dentistry but otherwise the guys in 1220

00:22:43.160 understood the world a lot better than people did in 2012 or 2026 and all the libs and all the fancy

00:22:49.200 Republicans made fun of me, but it's happening. We are returning to 1220. Love that. We'll find

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00:24:13.500 New York Times essay. Sentence I never thought I'd say. By Katya Ungerman. Ms. Ungerman writes

00:24:20.780 some newsletter under the pen name Catherine D. So much for that pen name. Now we all know who 0.99

00:24:25.540 she really is. Anyway, she writes this piece in the New York Times. We're sliding back to the

00:24:28.600 Middle Ages. And it opens by making fun of Tucker. It says, in 2024, Tucker Carlson revealed that

00:24:33.140 he'd been physically attacked in his bed by a demon or by something unseen. The entity left

00:24:38.240 four claw marks on each of his sides and on his left shoulder, he said. He was bleeding when he

00:24:41.900 woke catholic and orthodox clergy weighed in publicly with an orthodox priest lamenting that

00:24:45.860 mr carlson's episcopalian faith left him ill-equipped to respond to such an attack

00:24:49.260 now i don't i don't know if tucker actually was physically attacked by a demon or not he

00:24:53.420 sleeps with his dogs so a lot of people figured his dog probably just scratched him but regardless

00:24:58.000 of what you think about the these alleged attack or what you think about tucker even or whatever

00:25:03.120 demons exist if you're christian you believe in demons and angels and spiritual beings

00:25:11.480 it really if you have any even slightly religious inclination you believe in that

00:25:18.520 even if you have the elevated paganism of a plato or a socrates you believe in spiritual reality

00:25:25.440 so the new york times kind of making fun of that then he says more recently greg phillips

00:25:30.620 head of fema's office of response and recovery made news for saying he had once been teleported

00:25:35.420 to a waffle house i think i read something vaguely about that so again they're still

00:25:38.980 making fun of this. In a less esoteric vein this past Easter, Catholic priests across the country

00:25:43.540 welcomed the largest classes of converts they'd seen in 15 or more years. Notice what they do.

00:25:48.520 They open up with these really scintillating kind of dubious accounts, and then they use it to just

00:25:53.340 attack Christianity, Catholicism in particular. But it's true also of the Orthodox Church. The

00:25:58.780 Antiochian Orthodox Church is also apparently exploding. And then they get to their point.

00:26:06.000 Demonic vexation, teleportation, increased interest in religious practice, those phenomena are all

00:26:10.440 signs that life feels to many increasingly charged with unseen forces. You might say it has been

00:26:15.560 re-enchanted. That's a key line because one of the hallmarks of modernity is that we've become

00:26:20.500 disenchanted. We no longer believe in love or glory or virtue or anything. It's all just sort

00:26:27.640 of chemicals firing off in our brains to create an illusion of an immaterial reality, but actually

00:26:33.580 we're all just sacks of flesh. That's what modernity tells you. So, modernity disenchants

00:26:38.080 the world. You no longer have a love affair. You have a relationship. You have all of our language.

00:26:42.820 You no longer have a lady. You have a person with a uterus. You know, it's just, it's all so 1.00

00:26:47.620 disenchanted and clinical and gross. And what the Times writer is saying is, no, no, no, now it's

00:26:53.720 maybe been re-enchanted. There's a widespread feeling that the material explanation is no

00:26:57.280 longer sufficient, that something uncanny, maybe even numinous, is diffused into the texture of

00:27:01.860 ordinary American life. Excellent observation from Katya Ungerman. Really good point.

00:27:08.240 Then it goes on, Pew goes on to find that 30% of Americans consult astrology, tarot cards,

00:27:14.340 or fortune tellers at least once a year. New age practices are even more popular among some

00:27:18.260 demographics like young women and LGBTQ adults, of course. During my first pregnancy, I received

00:27:24.900 a Reiki or energy healing. Yikes, bad stuff. Treatment for my unborn son. It's now offered

00:27:29.140 at major hospitals across the country. What's going on? And then it goes on to try to explain

00:27:33.420 it or explain it away. But the point is, it is happening. It is happening. And the headline

00:27:39.460 gets it wrong. It says, we're sliding back to the Middle Ages. That part is not true.

00:27:44.080 Really, you should look at it from the other angle. It's not that middle-aged,

00:27:50.020 medieval Christian scholasticism is on the rise again, so much as liberal rationalism

00:27:56.720 is failing. It has collapsed. Liberalism, rationalism, the modern ideologies don't

00:28:03.840 explain the world. They erode the foundations of our civilization. Society begins to fall apart.

00:28:11.040 They fail to explain things that we know to be true, the longings of our heart and the deepest

00:28:15.960 intuitions we have. They're just insufficient. It's just false. They make claims about human

00:28:20.140 nature that are not true. They try to atomize us, reduce us from social creatures to mere

00:28:26.360 individuals and from mere individuals down to sacks of flesh. And they make us on the same

00:28:30.460 level as the beasts and in many ways lower than the beasts. And it just isn't true. So it failed.

00:28:36.340 It failed socially. It failed intellectually. It obviously failed spiritually. And so as that

00:28:41.120 falls apart, there is now a vacuum into which we are not necessarily seeing the return of the

00:28:46.880 Middle Ages, which contrary to nonsense you might've read in school, actually were the high

00:28:52.500 point of our civilization. The high Middle Ages were the absolute high point of our civilization.

00:28:56.360 in terms of philosophy, in terms of theology, but also in terms of architecture, in terms

00:29:00.720 of literature, in terms of building, in terms of, well, I guess that goes with architecture,

00:29:06.540 but not even just the great cathedrals, just our whole civilizations, townships centered around

00:29:12.100 something that were coherent, that made sense. Painting, sculpture, all the rest of it were

00:29:16.240 really coming to the fore in the high middle ages, even just before the turn of what we call

00:29:20.280 the Renaissance. The Renaissance, which in many ways became a rejection of Christendom, an attempt

00:29:26.260 to return to pagan antiquity, a rejection of Christianity for humanism and the beginning of

00:29:32.060 modernity. But what you're seeing is just a vacuum now, and it's going to be filled up by something.

00:29:38.640 It's going to be filled up by Reiki, which is just demon worship. It's going to be filled up by

00:29:43.860 tarot or astrology. It's going to be filled up by New Age. It's going to be filled up by witches.

00:29:48.240 It's going to be filled, or it's going to be filled up by Christianity and a robust Christianity 0.78

00:29:52.140 that takes religion seriously, which was the Christianity of the scholastics and of the

00:29:56.160 Middle Ages. Those are the choices, though, available to us. The choice is not between

00:30:01.740 liberal modernity and the dark Middle Ages. Liberal modernity sucks and failed, and it's 0.99

00:30:08.140 falling apart, and its promises didn't come true, and its explanations of human nature were 0.99

00:30:12.660 insufficient. So that's not the choice between the dark Christian Middle Ages and rationalist 0.52

00:30:18.840 liberalism. The choice is between Christianity or New Age or modern ideology like communism

00:30:25.980 or socialism or something like that. But the choice is between a world that will be re-enchanted

00:30:34.440 with some kind of spirit, either the spirit of the science of history as the left has presented

00:30:41.780 to us with the spirit of weird Eastern mystical forces like Reiki or yoga offer you, or with the

00:30:49.320 Holy Spirit, the spirit that animated our civilization. Those are the choices. Choose

00:30:52.640 wisely, please. Please. Speaking of bad choices, Bunny Blue. Bunny Blue is, she's the porn lady

00:31:00.700 who films herself in particularly degrading circumstances. And what distinguishes her, 0.97

00:31:06.740 I think, is that she is famous or infamous, even among people who have never seen a single frame

00:31:14.820 of her actual pornography. Hand up. I've never, I'm pleased to say, I'm not saying I'm purer than

00:31:22.680 the freshly driven snow through every period of my life, but I can honestly, truthfully,

00:31:28.200 in every way say, I've never seen a single frame of Bonnie Blue's pornographic oeuvre.

00:31:34.440 but I've seen her pop up a lot on social media because what's even almost darker about what she 0.93

00:31:39.360 does is she does these interviews where she's totally clothed. She's not too, but where she 0.96

00:31:44.080 just describes all of the particularly degrading acts, you know, sleeping. I think she slept with

00:31:48.740 a thousand guys in a day, uh, that kind of stuff. So she's, she's back at it. And here, I think she

00:31:55.520 actually can teach us something about politics and the limits of politics. She was on a British show

00:32:00.920 and she explained how she's pregnant.

00:32:03.440 I don't even know if I can believe that,

00:32:04.700 but she says she's pregnant.

00:32:05.900 And for her baby shower, 1.00

00:32:07.500 she's going to host a gross sex event. 1.00

00:32:10.900 Did I hear right that you have a stunt planned for June? 1.00

00:32:14.600 Yes, I have a baby shower on Saturday.

00:32:17.960 Next Saturday.

00:32:19.180 And I'm inviting the public

00:32:20.760 to turn my baby shower into a golden shower.

00:32:23.660 Why?

00:32:25.000 It's just fun. 1.00

00:32:26.220 It's a twist on the baby shower. 0.68

00:32:28.160 Are we having sex with the people as well as?

00:32:29.920 And it's going to be like a mixture of wholesome baby shower games like the traditional trying different baby food along with all the fluids added in there.

00:32:38.840 Now I'm uncomfortable. This is your baby. This is your child.

00:32:43.180 Yeah. Again, my body, this is what I'm choosing.

00:32:46.780 Do you not see that in any way as a denigration of your baby?

00:32:50.260 No, like it is difficult because I don't want to sexualize the baby.

00:32:56.040 Yeah, but she otherwise doesn't see it as a denigration of the baby. 1.00

00:32:59.540 So, she's going to host an orgy, but also an orgy that'll be particularly degrading and at which men will relieve themselves on her. 0.99

00:33:09.360 Okay. 0.98

00:33:11.080 So, the question beyond, and I hate even playing a clip of hers, but it's making the rounds.

00:33:16.800 It's quite viral, and it actually does tell us something about politics, and it's a question that we need to address, which is, what is wrong with that?

00:33:24.460 What is wrong with that?

00:33:25.720 I think, obviously, Child Protective Services should be called. 1.00

00:33:28.200 I think this woman should be locked into a loony bin and someone should care for the kid and all 0.99

00:33:31.980 the rest. But what is wrong with that? People have marital relations while they're pregnant. 1.00

00:33:40.480 So there's nothing particularly wrong or illegal, certainly, about that.

00:33:45.780 The degrading acts that she'll be engaging in, promises to engage in beforehand, don't directly

00:33:52.560 affect the baby right and and so in that way really is her body her choice she's not talking

00:33:58.680 about killing the baby or even so what's wrong with that from the standpoint of liberalism

00:34:06.260 laissez-faire live and let live you do you what's wrong with what she's doing

00:34:11.920 everything but not but from the standpoint of that ideology nothing

00:34:15.900 so what should be done about it well the only answer would be that we need to assert the right

00:34:25.160 to tell women and men how to behave in their private lives we need to assert that right

00:34:32.660 even if it's not always enforced we're not going to have the purity police coming around like 1.00

00:34:36.640 but there's a big difference between you know like some aberrant actions and what this woman's 1.00

00:34:44.080 planning to do. So are we willing to do that in principle? When we had laws against all this

00:34:48.660 stuff, laws against adultery, which are still on the books in some places. When we had those on

00:34:52.460 the books, they weren't even always enforced, but they set a standard. Are we willing to do that?

00:34:57.320 Would you be willing? Obviously, people viscerally would say, yeah, this woman needs to be locked up. 1.00

00:35:01.780 She's a total lunatic. Okay. Would you go so far as to say that there should be legal punishments 1.00

00:35:07.460 for women who do this kind of stuff? And what's the line? And who decides? And all these questions

00:35:12.960 are going to come up, which are the usual liberal rejoinders to common sense. But are you willing

00:35:17.260 to do that in principle? I for one am, and Pride Month, I guess, is as good a time as any to say,

00:35:21.340 yeah, there should be limits to what people do individually, to their own bodies, in their

00:35:27.060 personal lives, in their private lives. There obviously should be limits. Those are matters

00:35:31.060 of public interest. The state does, in fact, have the right to enforce those standards.

00:35:35.820 We, the people, have the right to pass those laws, to charge the government with enforcing

00:35:39.640 those standards. And that stuff should all be illegal. She cannot be trusted to have custody

00:35:44.520 of a child, obviously. And what she does in her private life should be limited by the state. 0.51

00:35:51.280 Are you willing to go that far and say that? Because if so, that's going to pertain to a lot

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00:36:48.300 Now, speaking of disgusting demonstrations, the New York Giants are being brutal to their QB

00:36:54.480 because their quarterback, Jackson Dart, you can tell what a huge football fan I am,

00:37:01.000 their quarterback had the temerity to introduce president trump at a rally we'll get to the

00:37:07.400 blowback first though my favorite comment yesterday is from tia tiago rodriguez 3730 0.67

00:37:14.860 who says i mean in principle dating a girl who works for you is a red flag in itself regardless

00:37:19.900 of whether she is a pretend girlfriend or not it's so funny when you look at the two sex scandals

00:37:24.260 you got this guy platner up in maine who was sexting all these women he's on some abusive

00:37:30.520 app, whatever. And then you get Tallarico in Texas who says he has this girlfriend.

00:37:35.740 And no one's really shocked by the first story because Plattner seems like a scuzzy guy,

00:37:41.060 but it's pretty outrageous. And the only reason people are shocked by the Tallarico story is

00:37:45.080 because some people thought he was gay. So much so that people are overlooking the fact that he

00:37:50.340 says he met his girlfriend because she worked for him. And everybody, people are so skeptical

00:37:57.020 that he actually has a girlfriend

00:37:58.240 that they're not even

00:37:59.000 digging into that.

00:38:00.440 It's not even,

00:38:01.020 because if it were a guy

00:38:02.520 that everyone thinks is straight,

00:38:03.800 if they believe the story

00:38:04.860 that he actually has this girlfriend

00:38:05.900 who, by her own admission,

00:38:09.040 loves dancing the night away

00:38:10.120 at gay clubs and, you know,

00:38:11.620 it doesn't seem like,

00:38:12.500 I don't know.

00:38:13.520 Maybe they are a perfect match.

00:38:14.720 But regardless,

00:38:16.620 if people actually believe

00:38:18.640 that this guy were dating this chick,

00:38:19.980 this would be a big scandal. 0.81

00:38:21.120 You're not allowed to date people

00:38:22.040 who work for you,

00:38:23.160 especially when you're in politics.

00:38:24.400 You're not allowed to do that.

00:38:25.380 but he did.

00:38:27.420 And the only reason he's not in trouble is because no one believes he's

00:38:29.500 actually dating her.

00:38:30.340 Okay.

00:38:31.840 Jackson Dart.

00:38:33.600 Can you believe what he did?

00:38:35.040 Quarterback for the giants.

00:38:36.080 He had the audacity to introduce the president of the United States.

00:38:40.580 I'm grateful.

00:38:41.580 I'm honored.

00:38:42.060 I'm a pleasure to introduce the 45th and 47th president of the United

00:38:48.540 States of America,

00:38:49.560 president Donald J.

00:38:50.780 Trump.

00:38:55.380 that's all you need we got it we got the whole that's the whole story he goes out behind a

00:39:03.220 podium not even a podium like a trump vance campaign podium it's a podium with the seal

00:39:06.620 of the president and he goes out and he says hi i'm honored to introduce the president of the

00:39:11.900 united states so yeah that's yeah that's cool if i if i were asked to introduce the president

00:39:17.800 even a president i don't like i'd say okay well that's an honor he's the president and for whatever

00:39:22.380 reason I'm being asked to do that, especially if I'm in a public role that's supposed to be

00:39:25.280 nonpartisan. Oh, yeah, that's fine. And this guy just got absolutely pummeled for it, so much so

00:39:30.840 that he had to answer these reporter questions. I can honestly say that I love every single one

00:39:36.360 of my brothers, my teammates on this team, regardless of politics, regardless of religious

00:39:44.200 beliefs, regardless of anything that may be different between us. I love them, and they

00:39:51.380 know exactly what kind of person that i am who comes into the facility every every day and um

00:39:56.680 you know who lays you know i lay my body on the line for my guys each and every week and uh you

00:40:01.820 know it's it's it's from the connections that we build the love that we have for each other

00:40:05.440 um and you know i've been somebody who's always respected you know the different perspectives

00:40:12.320 that people may have the backgrounds that they come from i understand that you know we have

00:40:16.320 such a cool um opportunity as people you know to be in a locker room where it's a melting pot of

00:40:22.580 people from everywhere and we get to to be together was this was it what it was like under

00:40:26.920 stalin's russia was this what it was like this is what it was like these struggle sessions these

00:40:32.820 show trials i just i don't i just look i i respect everybody and i i just don't i i try to i mean i'm

00:40:39.140 just doing my job and i just i just think maybe i mean i know i i should but i i spoke i just

00:40:44.660 introduced the president who won the popular vote and i just i look he did i don't mean to make fun

00:40:50.440 of him i thought his answer was perfectly reasonable i think it's good that he did what he

00:40:54.860 did but what why is he being asked to explain himself oh i'll tell you why because another

00:41:01.160 new york giant abdul carter decided to throw shade at his own teammate for doing a very basic thing

00:41:07.100 so first off i want to say that some things are bigger than football and this is one of those

00:41:13.120 things. Jackson is one of our leaders. He's the face of our franchise. He not only represents

00:41:17.980 himself and what he does, but he represents all of us. And that goes for anybody who wears a

00:41:22.760 giant's uniform. But if he chooses to align himself with a man like President Trump, it's

00:41:28.180 my responsibility based on what I believe and what I stand on to not only show my teammates

00:41:33.260 that I'm against that, but to show the world. And that doesn't mean that we have to spread hate.

00:41:38.680 It doesn't mean that me and Jackson hate each other or we have beef. I sit next to Jackson

00:41:42.400 every day every team meeting we close we talk you know we just as long as we make sure we got the

00:41:47.960 same goal as a team and our goals aligned which they do and i feel like that's all that matters

00:41:52.120 so i just want to move past this and yeah that's it yeah okay but you you got the main part wrong

00:41:59.100 where he says look i just feel like he says some nice things about his teammate but he says i just

00:42:03.720 feel like if my quarterback is going to align himself with someone like president trump first

00:42:09.160 of align himself like he was hitting the campaign trail with him. He introduces the sitting

00:42:13.000 president of the United States at an event. And the totality of his remarks are basically,

00:42:18.580 it's my honor to introduce the president. He says, well, then I just, it's my responsibility

00:42:24.800 to speak out against that. No, it's not. It's not your responsibility. It's not even your right,

00:42:30.780 really. You're a New York giant. When you sign that contract to be a New York giant,

00:42:38.920 You are signing up for a certain code of behavior.

00:42:42.300 You're signing up to speak and act a certain way,

00:42:46.360 certainly around members of your team.

00:42:48.280 It's a kind of a public role.

00:42:50.400 And you don't get to just mouth off all the time.

00:42:53.680 You don't.

00:42:54.360 And you are expected to behave in a way that is normal.

00:42:58.720 What did this guy do?

00:42:59.340 It would be one thing if Jackson Dart were campaigning,

00:43:03.680 hitting every single MAGA rally before the election in 2024.

00:43:07.180 that would be one thing. The guy's the sitting president. He said, ladies and gentlemen,

00:43:12.400 I'd like to introduce the president. That does not require a response, and a response is not

00:43:17.380 appropriate there. And this is, I think, what really pushed a lot of the popular vote win for

00:43:25.000 Trump in 24, which was just, how are we the controversial ones? Why is it upside down day?

00:43:32.820 Why is it backwards day?

00:43:35.580 I think about this.

00:43:37.420 I think about liberal family members, liberal friends,

00:43:41.140 where somehow if you're the normal one,

00:43:42.980 you're on the outside.

00:43:44.400 I think of, do you remember the old show, The Munsters?

00:43:46.940 This is an old show, The Munsters, which I'm not that old.

00:43:49.360 I watched it in reruns when I was a kid,

00:43:51.380 like on Nick at Night.

00:43:52.380 And the show, The Munsters, they're all monsters. 0.94

00:43:54.420 They're all like ghastly, horrifying monsters, 1.00

00:43:56.660 except for one hot blonde. 1.00

00:43:58.380 But because everyone around her is such a total freak, 1.00

00:44:01.580 She is considered the freak. 0.98

00:44:03.440 She is considered ugly and the abnormal one. 1.00

00:44:05.420 And that's one of the jokes of the show. 0.82

00:44:06.500 And that's how we feel.

00:44:08.660 The Jackson Dart has to apologize for this.

00:44:10.780 He has to get grilled by the press.

00:44:12.920 It is good for sports figures to introduce the sitting president.

00:44:17.920 There's nothing wrong with that.

00:44:18.880 That's actually laudable.

00:44:20.760 And whatever the guys, Abdul Carter should apologize to his QB for throwing shade.

00:44:26.580 And then he should move on and throw the football.

00:44:28.460 why is it the only silver lining to this is that when everything's upside down and it's always

00:44:35.280 backwards day that does redound to the benefit of the normal people because there are more normal

00:44:39.660 people and most people have a healthy bit of normality to them and it might help us in the

00:44:44.820 midterms you know we'll see how iran goes but but down the line politically i you know the weirder

00:44:50.080 the public people get the better it is for the normal side and right now we remain the normal

00:44:55.160 side. Okay. So much more to get to, but it's TEE Tuesday. The rest of the show continues now. You

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The Michael Knowles Show - June 02, 2026

Ep. 1986 - The Horror： They Just Won't Let Pride Month Die

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