The Michael Knowles Show - June 10, 2026


Ep. 1991 - Unhinged REACTIONS： Karmelo Anthony Found Guilty Of Murdering Austin Metcalf

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Polymarket racial solidarity
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Charlie Kirk Spencer Pratt Carmelo Anthony Karen Bass Austin Metcalf Scott Pelley Henry Novak Barry Weiss JD Vance Good Ranchers Brandon Gill Nithya Rahman John Roach Jr. David Lammy Josh Hawley Daryl Issa Metcalf Fair George W. Bush Connects Ontario and 10 more
Ep. 1990 - Libs Panic： Trump Starts Denaturalizing Citizens Ep. 1992 - ＂Chimping Out＂ Girl Goes Viral Amid Karmelo Anthony Protests

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Anthony Carmelo Anthony was found not guilty in the murder of 17-year-old Austin Metcalfe, who was shot to death in front of his own home in 2011. But the fact that we are all breathing a sigh of relief actually highlights a deep problem. We are all used to murderers getting off the hook, especially if the criminals are black and the victims are white. We will get into the details of the verdict, as well as the responses of the defense and the prosecution.

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00:01:53.740 evidence showed that the bloodthirsty Anthony killed Metcalfe in cold blood with provocation
00:01:59.520 and premeditation. But the fact that we're all breathing a sigh of relief, that justice actually
00:02:05.980 was served in this case, highlights a deep problem. We're all just used to murders and
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00:04:39.200 Knowles, K-N-A-W-L-E-S, at takelean.com. Carmelo Anthony, 19 years old. He was charged with first
00:04:45.920 degree murder in April of last year over the death of 17-year-old Austin Metcalfe. This was
00:04:53.760 down in Texas. They were at a high school track meet, and Austin Metcalfe goes into his team's
00:05:00.140 tent, and there's this guy, Carmelo Anthony, who's not on the team. He's in there. He's sitting in
00:05:05.420 Metcalfe's chair. He's not supposed to be in this tent to begin with, and so Metcalfe and some of
00:05:09.860 the guys say, hey, get out of the chair, get out of the tent. He won't do it. He keeps provoking him.
00:05:13.380 He says, you make me do it.
00:05:14.460 You're going to make me do it.
00:05:15.560 Make me get out of this chair.
00:05:16.920 And so Metcalf gives him a little shove, and Carmelo Anthony pulls a knife out of his bag,
00:05:21.940 stabs Metcalf in the heart, kills him, and runs away and is happily arrested.
00:05:29.120 Horrible situation, but it's clear as day what was going on.
00:05:32.460 So the judge in this case, Judge John Roach Jr., allowed the jury to consider two charges.
00:05:39.040 He was charged with first-degree murder, premeditated murder.
00:05:41.420 But he said, look, if you guys can't unanimously agree on the murder charge, you can also consider
00:05:46.560 the lesser charge of manslaughter. Murder carries a sentence of five years to life. Crazy. Could
00:05:52.400 you imagine five years for murder? Manslaughter is punishable by two years, two years in prison,
00:05:57.820 nothing, up to 20 years. So the jury happily concluded the reality of this, which is that
00:06:05.340 Carmelo Anthony murdered Austin Metcalfe. He was provoking Austin Metcalfe. This was
00:06:10.820 premeditated murder. And implausibly, outside of the classroom, Carmelo Anthony has all these fans
00:06:18.920 and supporters who are so upset. Here's one woman who goes viral for her reaction to the
00:06:24.060 supposedly unjust verdict. What do you want us to do? What do you want us to do at this point?
00:06:31.020 What? I'm lost for it. I don't know what to do. I got five boys. I don't know what. I ain't got
00:06:36.820 nothing to tell them no more. You can't walk away no more. I got five boys. I don't know what to
00:06:43.840 tell them. I don't know what to tell them to stop them from getting arrested and thrown in jail,
00:06:47.980 potentially for life. I don't know what to tell them. Well, one thing I would recommend you tell
00:06:52.580 them is don't stab people in the heart over nothing. That would be one thing you could do.
00:06:57.740 I would say, one thing you could tell your five boys is don't go to other people's places 1.00
00:07:05.420 and then sit in their seats and then provoke them and then stab them in the heart and murder them. 1.00
00:07:12.060 That would be one thing you could do. 1.00
00:07:13.920 Because if Carmelo Anthony had not done that, he would not be in prison right now.
00:07:18.820 She says, you can't walk away no more.
00:07:20.560 He didn't walk away.
00:07:21.540 In fact, the crucial fact of this case is he wouldn't walk away.
00:07:24.440 he went to some other guy's seat sat in the other guy's seat wouldn't move the guy asked him to move
00:07:31.680 he kind of push it taps him a little bit and then anthony stabs him in the heart
00:07:35.420 it wasn't just this crazy lady there were a whole host of these people protesting outside
00:07:40.860 the courtroom holding baseball bats crazy stuff chanting carmelo anthony
00:07:47.060 what do we want justice you got justice a guy murders another guy in cold blood and then
00:08:00.800 then then really in full justice the murderer would be executed promptly this is a little less
00:08:07.120 than justice in that the the murderer will go to jail hopefully for life but maybe for a short
00:08:12.420 period of time. It's a Carmelo. So you say, what is this about? And it's obvious, and you're not
00:08:18.820 really allowed to say what it's about, but what it's about is racial solidarity. It's not about
00:08:22.200 the facts of the case. It's not about the criminal justice system. It's not about how we should
00:08:28.460 treat murderers. It's about racial solidarity. And this is backed up by social science. For years
00:08:34.560 now, we've seen Pew Research has a good study on this. Black people in the United States have by 0.63
00:08:39.900 far the highest degree of racial solidarity and the highest degree of racial consciousness.
00:08:44.360 For black people, over 70%, I think it's 72% of black people in the US say that being black
00:08:51.020 is important or very important to their identity. That number drops a lot when you look at Asians
00:08:58.140 and Hispanics, but for both of them, that's north of 50% still. Then you get to white people and
00:09:03.660 it's 15%. White people have essentially no racial consciousness and no sense of racial solidarity. 0.97
00:09:09.060 So if the roles were reversed, ridiculous even to mention it, it's cliche and trite and absurd, 0.99
00:09:14.440 but if the roles were reversed, there would be no mob of white people outside the classroom 0.90
00:09:19.500 chanting justice for Austin, if it had gone the other way. There would be none of that.
00:09:25.860 It doesn't exist because there's racial solidarity, but really almost only for black
00:09:30.660 people to some degree for Asians and Hispanics and none whatsoever for white people.
00:09:34.660 So it's a big relief that the verdict came in and this guy who, with many eyewitnesses, with no ambiguity whatsoever, in total cold blood, murdered this 17-year-old kid.
00:09:46.140 But the fact that we're relieved by the verdict shows us a problem.
00:09:52.700 And the problem is there is a two-tiered system of justice.
00:09:56.860 That's the problem.
00:09:58.100 Just by our anxiety, our anticipation of the verdict, we recognize that there's a two-tiered system of justice.
00:10:04.660 that if a white cop tries to arrest a black career criminal who's actively resisting arrest 0.87
00:10:14.300 and something goes wrong and the black criminal dies, let's say I'm just off the top of my head, 0.99
00:10:18.480 let's say the black criminal has taken four times the lethal dose of fentanyl and then resists 0.99
00:10:22.320 arrest for 11 minutes and then dies in the process of finally being subdued, just off the top of my 0.99
00:10:27.260 head. In that case, we know that that white guy is going to go to jail for life, even though he
00:10:34.120 really didn't do anything wrong. We know that if a white guy subdues a black criminal who's 0.98
00:10:39.120 threatening people on subway cars, his life is going to be ruined, at least for many, many months, 0.99
00:10:44.040 if not send him to jail forever. And we know that the justice system in the United States and in the
00:10:51.280 UK has endeavored to be more lenient toward black criminals, a two-tiered system of justice. We just 1.00
00:10:58.940 saw this with the Henry Novak case. The cops were told from the College of Policing, from the
00:11:05.100 Organization of Police Chiefs in the UK and the Police Race Action Plan. They were told,
00:11:10.940 go softer on non-white criminals, mostly migrants from places like Pakistan, and be harsher on 0.99
00:11:18.140 white people. You should reflexively believe the non-white criminals over even white victims. 0.99
00:11:24.180 That's exactly what played out in the Henry Novak case. And we see the same sort of policing 0.94
00:11:28.920 here in the United States. It's a two-tiered system. Speaking of the UK, the deputy prime
00:11:34.360 minister of the UK, David Lammy, just debated our vice president, J.D. Vance. As J.D. Vance came out
00:11:40.100 and he pointed out how unjust all of the circumstances around the Henry Novak murder
00:11:45.080 were, where a child of Punjabi migrants, just in cold blood, also a stabbing, stabs this kid,
00:11:53.060 Henry Novak to death, the cops show up, and they totally ignore Henry Novak, and they make fun of
00:11:58.140 him as he's bleeding to death, and they're joking around with his murderer. So David Lammy says,
00:12:02.260 no, no, no, Vice President Vance, you have this totally wrong. Obviously, this Deputy Prime
00:12:09.120 Minister, David Lammy, he comes out here, he says, look, you don't understand, Vice President Vance,
00:12:15.180 this is not, you just have the facts wrong here, this has nothing to do with mass migration.
00:12:21.000 You don't understand, Vice President Vance.
00:12:23.220 And I say, what are you talking about?
00:12:24.920 It has everything to do with mass migration.
00:12:27.880 The issue here is that you have a huge number of migrants from places like Punjab, a lot of Pakistani migrants.
00:12:34.980 And you've imported some of the racial pathologies from the George Floyd case.
00:12:38.620 But furthermore, even before that, you were going soft on the Pakistani rape grooming gangs that were operating with impunity for decades. 0.50
00:12:46.460 operating for decades, harming white English girls, and you intentionally looked the other 0.96
00:12:53.520 way because you didn't want to be called racist. You had the College of Policing say you need to
00:12:57.360 focus on white fragility and microaggressions. You had the UK race action plan that came out
00:13:03.720 and said, hey, we can't treat everybody equally. We don't want racial equality. We don't want
00:13:07.700 colorblindness. So it has absolutely everything to do with mass migration. It has everything to
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00:15:39.900 This has got nothing to do with mass migration. One, let's be clear that obviously since the
00:15:47.480 early 2000s and post-Brexit, migration has come down, but murder has come down too,
00:15:53.760 actually in our country. And two, the young man who perpetrated this crime was a Brit,
00:15:59.840 born and raised in this country nothing to do with mass migration what did you say to him i told him
00:16:05.180 he was wrong now we had an agreeable conversation but we disagree yeah okay the baby this guy was a
00:16:13.120 brit vikram digua was a brit okay yeah so first of all his his parents were immigrants so okay yeah
00:16:19.080 he's first generation born in the uk but even even if he had been born in the uk and his parents were
00:16:25.220 born in the uk and his grandparents were born in the uk which would be implausible but let's say
00:16:28.280 we're all true. The whole context around the murder was about mass migration. It was the 0.99
00:16:36.280 whole context. The police guidelines were there to ignore the victim and to joke around with the
00:16:42.860 killer because of mass migration. This is just that meme that so much of left-wing discourse
00:16:48.980 is the left pretending not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible.
00:16:54.820 we have to say that there's no racial component to the circumstances around
00:17:00.060 the austin metcalf murder there's always a racial component whenever whenever a white person can be
00:17:07.700 even slightly plausibly especially if you squint accused of any act of vague racial awareness
00:17:14.260 against a non-white person then it's all about race but whenever it goes in the other direction
00:17:18.740 including when the perpetrator makes overt racial comments as in the case of the murder of irena
00:17:23.720 Zarutska on the train in Charlotte, North Carolina. There we have to totally ignore it,
00:17:27.880 which is just downstream of the fact that some races in America have massive racial solidarity
00:17:33.720 and racial consciousness. Others do not. And we just conveniently choose when we're going to
00:17:39.700 apply racial criteria based on the prevailing liberal narrative. Totally absurd. Now to the
00:17:47.840 point that in the UK, you have this video of a Sudanese immigrant who claimed asylum,
00:17:54.200 who exploited a loophole to get into Northern Ireland, beheading a man on the street in
00:17:59.040 Belfast. That is not, you know, the Irish are tough people and they sometimes brawl a little 0.99
00:18:03.980 bit. Beheadings are kind of a foreign thing. The nearest country to the UK where you see 1.00
00:18:11.540 beheadings is like France in the revolution. Okay, this is a little unusual. We don't get
00:18:16.140 a lot of that in the UK. And we have to pretend this has nothing to do with immigration. Someone
00:18:21.480 pointed out that we've now reached the beheadings in the street stage of cultural enrichment. We
00:18:26.020 have to pretend, no, no, no, no, look away here, nothing to see here, nothing to see here. The
00:18:30.340 establishment media are basically not even covering this. It has nothing to do with mass
00:18:34.200 migration. People vote for the Brexit. They say, we just want less migration. We just have too much
00:18:39.500 migration. What happens? Migration goes up. Seems like what the people want, the government just
00:18:45.360 refuses to give them on the crucial matters. You're seeing this in L.A. right now. Nidia
00:18:49.400 Raman. Nidia Raman is the socialist candidate in L.A. Nobody likes her. Nobody voted for her. 0.99
00:18:55.040 The race really was between Karen Bass and Spencer Pratt. Karen Bass, who's a communist, 1.00
00:18:59.360 who's now like an actual card-carrying communist, who's now the incumbent mayor of L.A., and Spencer
00:19:04.680 Pratt, who's this reality TV star kind of Republican guy who was making a real insurgent
00:19:09.380 campaign. So if you looked at the prediction markets, it looked like the runoff election
00:19:14.040 was going to be Karen Bass versus Spencer Pratt. Nydia Raman just hurt her numbers tanked after 1.00
00:19:19.900 Spencer Pratt's excellent debate performance. So this is where I predicted. I said, look, 0.56
00:19:25.440 Spencer Pratt's not going to become the mayor of LA. Karen Bass is going to remain the mayor. But
00:19:29.420 I think that he got rid of Nydia Raman. I think he destroyed her campaign.
00:19:33.460 And this is one, I hate to say, I told you so. This is one where I was only half right.
00:19:38.260 And because I was half right in the sense that Nydia Raman now beat Spencer Pratt,
00:19:43.340 Pratt's out of the race. The runoff will be between Karen Bass and Nidhi Raman, 0.99
00:19:46.380 meaning that whoever wins, it's going to be a Democrat. But not to make excuses for my
00:19:51.040 half-right prediction, one thing I wasn't counting on was all those mail-in ballots.
00:19:57.080 And maybe I should have counted on that because Pratt was winning. On election day,
00:20:00.440 Pratt was winning. And then five days later, after they kept counting all those extra votes,
00:20:04.840 turned out that Pratt was out. And that in itself is not proof of cheating.
00:20:09.540 that in itself is not proof of fraud. But when you get down into the numbers,
00:20:13.940 you see something a little strange. Nitya Raman lost her own district.
00:20:19.700 She's a member of the city council. She lost her own district to both Bass and Pratt.
00:20:26.980 She came in third in her own district. Actually, frankly, I don't even know that she came in third.
00:20:34.580 no no it's even worse than that she came in like fifth it was it was bass pratt steyer 0.88
00:20:44.340 becerra you don't even see ramen on the list so they want us to believe that nydia ramen 1.00
00:20:51.560 could lose her own district but then win 40 percent of the rest of the vote in the city 1.00
00:21:00.620 by mail. That's what they want us to believe. Democrats, I need to do a video on this. 0.91
00:21:06.920 Democrats have been using absentees and mail-in ballots to steal elections since the middle of
00:21:12.040 the 19th century. This is the tried and true pattern by which Democrats steal elections.
00:21:16.860 In this case, though, it's just so brazen. Nobody supported Nitya Raman.
00:21:23.520 And yet, she pulls ahead. You want us to believe that her real constituency
00:21:28.060 was just absentees, was people who conveniently couldn't show up to vote
00:21:33.100 from everywhere else in the city but the place she actually represents?
00:21:39.400 You've got a bridge in Los Angeles to sell me. Do they even have bridges in Los Angeles? I don't
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00:22:08.340 were paying for neo-Nazis. They had leaders of neo-Nazi white supremacy organizations on SPLC
00:22:14.440 payroll. SPLC said, well, no, we just wanted moles in the organization. But that excuse doesn't hold 0.82
00:22:19.140 up when you're actually funding the leaders of the organizations. And now we're finding out
00:22:23.360 that SPLC money went to, this is according to the federal indictment, went to racist merchandise,
00:22:31.060 okay, living expenses for some of these people, recruitment of other neo-Nazis and white
00:22:36.380 supremacists. You can't let the supply run dry. Robes and hoods. The SPLC is paying for the hoods
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00:24:24.980 our friend, rising Republican star in Congress, Brandon Gill, grilling the head of the SPLC.
00:24:32.020 Your organization said that restricting and banning abortion is a tool that the far right
00:24:39.980 uses to maintain white supremacy? Do you believe that pro-lifers are white supremacists?
00:24:48.120 I believe that reproductive liberty is...
00:24:52.420 No, do you believe that pro-lifers are white supremacists?
00:24:55.420 I will tell you what I believe if you're asking...
00:24:57.260 Is this yes or no?
00:24:58.360 I can't answer that question, yes or no.
00:25:00.100 I don't think that pro-lifers are white supremacists. Do you?
00:25:03.020 what I think is that reproductive liberty
00:25:07.880 is a right that every woman should enjoy. 0.99
00:25:10.580 How many babies in the United States 0.99
00:25:12.640 that are aborted are black? 0.98
00:25:17.140 About 40% of abortions nationwide are of black babies. 0.94
00:25:22.240 Blacks represent about 13% of the population. 0.98
00:25:24.720 Does that sound like something
00:25:26.560 a white supremacist would oppose?
00:25:28.420 what i would say again is that splc supports reproductive calling somebody a white supremacist
00:25:37.640 is a pretty serious charge isn't it i would i mean i would think you would be able to defend that
00:25:42.640 if your organization says that you clearly seem unable to uh mr gill i'm not sure why you would
00:25:49.780 think i'm able to do anything well you're unable to do it because you're not doing it that's why
00:25:54.660 we would conclude it. But it's not really that you're unable to, it's that you're unwilling to.
00:25:59.160 Brandon Gill, the guy gets better at this every day. He started out great at it already,
00:26:03.560 and he just gets better at it every day. Very simple, straight down the middle.
00:26:06.660 And notice the progression here. The SPLC has gone after all of us, okay? The SPLC on its hate
00:26:13.600 watch blog, on its hate watch lists, they've gone after all of us. Everyone slightly to the right of
00:26:18.600 Barack Obama has found themselves, if you're in public life at all, you've found yourself in the
00:26:22.580 crosshairs of the SPLC at one point. The SPLC really targeted Charlie Kirk because he was so
00:26:28.060 effective at organizing young people for real political action. So one of the many ridiculous 0.68
00:26:34.820 things the SPLC has done is accused pro-lifers of being white supremacists. So Brandon, no 0.95
00:26:39.620 histrionics, no thea, he's kind of like Josh Hawley in this way. Senator Hawley is very good
00:26:44.200 at this too. Just total serious face. Hey, you said on your website that pro-lifers are white
00:26:48.700 supremacists. Is that what you believe? And the guy knows it's ridiculous. The guy knows that
00:26:53.160 his organization is just a fraud. The SPLC is a fraud, top to bottom. The things it accuses of 0.95
00:27:00.520 injustice are not unjust. The enemies that it says that it's going to topple, it's actually
00:27:08.340 funding and subsidizing. It's just maligning all ordinary conservative Americans. He says,
00:27:13.440 do you think pro-lifers are white supremacists? And obviously, the SPLC guy cannot defend his
00:27:18.120 own organization here because it's ridiculous. So then Brandon, he lets him flub and flop around,
00:27:24.100 and then he moves on, and he says to the kill shot, he says, well, hold on. 1.00
00:27:29.020 By far, black people disproportionately kill their babies through abortion. 0.99
00:27:34.820 So pro-life activism, therefore, disproportionately saves black people, 0.99
00:27:40.300 and it prevents them from being killed. In New York City, the majority of black babies are 1.00
00:27:45.540 killed through abortion. This is why we say that the most dangerous place for a black person in 1.00
00:27:51.080 the United States is in his mother's womb in New York. And so Braining Hill points that out. He 1.00
00:27:55.440 says, not only is it absurd on its face to call a pro-life or a white supremacist, but it's 0.80
00:28:00.100 perfectly absurd. It's exactly the inverse of reality. SPLC guy has absolutely no answer.
00:28:06.640 Daryl Issa then goes after the point I just mentioned about Charlie Kirk grilling the SPLC.
00:28:15.540 Your organization has labeled Dr. King and Charlie Kirk and others.
00:28:21.720 Do you regret that? Will you recant it?
00:28:25.340 Or are you going to double down and say that these people, including the martyred Charlie Kirk,
00:28:31.980 in fact somehow deserve to be on your hate list for they're constantly talking about bringing people together,
00:28:38.600 talking about the teachings of the Bible and the like?
00:28:42.720 Congressman Issa, as I said in my statement
00:28:47.740 No, wait a second, no, no
00:28:49.620 I heard your statement
00:28:50.800 I only want an answer to your question
00:28:52.900 and 11 seconds left
00:28:54.260 Are you going to recant, yes or no
00:28:57.120 Will you take back any part of that
00:28:59.560 or is your hate list stand
00:29:01.020 as your position of your organization
00:29:03.760 as its head today?
00:29:04.940 The SPLC will continue to expose
00:29:08.080 hate and extremism
00:29:09.540 Okay, we'll take that as the list stands
00:29:11.560 There you go. And this is the key. And this isn't just about embarrassing the head of the SPLC,
00:29:17.360 which is fun to do. It's politically important to do. He's embarrassed himself enough, of course.
00:29:21.720 But this is about the political import of all of it. And it really does come back to Charlie.
00:29:27.080 The assassination of Charlie Kirk is the most egregious action of the mainstream left in my
00:29:31.320 lifetime. It's not the most egregious action of the left. They're always fringe wackos. After 9-11,
00:29:37.460 they said America deserved 9-11. But most of the mainstream left did not say that.
00:29:42.760 Basically, nobody on the mainstream left said that. Whereas after the assassination of Charlie
00:29:47.200 Kirk, in fact, as it was happening, you had mainstream left wingers minimizing it, dismissing
00:29:53.440 it, excusing it, even celebrating it. You had Matthew Dowd, the Democrat strategist on MSNBC,
00:29:58.180 the Democrat cable channel, saying, well, as Charlie's dying, he said, well, you know, I mean,
00:30:02.460 this is what happens when you spread hate. You know, he kind of had it coming. That was essentially
00:30:05.840 what the guy was saying. You had elected Democrats, you had Democrats in the media,
00:30:10.960 you had Democrat activists, and you had the lady who sits next to you at work all saying,
00:30:16.880 well, yeah, Charlie kind of had it coming. And so now to ask the head of the SPLC, okay,
00:30:20.700 do you regret calling Charlie Kirk, this guy who was totally gracious and charitable to his
00:30:25.940 opponents, who always just wanted to talk it out, who was as mainstream centrist as they come,
00:30:31.660 do you regret calling him a hater saying that he was one of the real targets of your hate watch
00:30:37.820 because he was spreading hate and division and injustice in america do you regret that charlie 0.94
00:30:43.200 freaking kirk do you regret that after he was murdered by one of your own by a lefty
00:30:49.360 and the head of the spLC refuses to do it which gives away the whole game 0.53
00:30:55.040 if any of us were murdered, if any of us, not just people in public life, but private citizens,
00:31:02.260 in as much as you have any effect on politics, in as much as you can be used to have any effect
00:31:08.340 on politics, the mainstream left would celebrate your murder. Indeed, they did. Brutal, brutal
00:31:15.940 grilling on Capitol Hill. For the SPLC, sure, but also just for the state of politics in the U.S.
00:31:20.600 Okay. Speaking of political violence, the ceasefire is still on, but we're shooting at each
00:31:28.620 other in Iran, but we're still on a ceasefire and we're almost at a peace deal, but we are
00:31:33.560 shooting each other. And this because two nights ago, the Iranians shot down a US Apache helicopter.
00:31:42.500 According to President Trump, quote, I've just been informed by our great military that last
00:31:46.100 night the Iranians shot down one of our highly sophisticated Apache helicopters
00:31:49.280 while patrolling over the Strait of Hormuz.
00:31:51.720 There were two pilots involved,
00:31:53.300 both are safe and uninjured.
00:31:54.940 Nevertheless, the United States must of necessity
00:31:57.280 respond to this attack.
00:31:59.940 Notice the language here.
00:32:01.600 He's not saying, yeah, 0.97
00:32:02.420 now we're gonna give him hell and glass Tehran 0.83
00:32:04.120 and this is gonna be awesome. 0.82
00:32:05.880 He's saying, look, we have to respond to this.
00:32:07.660 You shot down one of our helicopters.
00:32:08.960 I don't really want to respond
00:32:10.420 because I want a peace deal,
00:32:11.660 but you're making me respond.
00:32:12.880 So we're gonna have to respond to some degree
00:32:14.820 in a proportional way. 1.00
00:32:16.980 Now, the Iranians are half denying it.
00:32:20.560 I've seen some people on the social medias try to argue that this was a false flag attack. 1.00
00:32:26.140 And I see how they got there.
00:32:28.640 And they're blaming Israel as everybody blames Israel for everything.
00:32:31.620 But the way they got there was the United States wants a peace deal.
00:32:34.620 State of Israel does not want a peace deal.
00:32:36.380 And we're the co-belligerents in this war against Iran. 0.81
00:32:39.600 So I guess it's not that hard to make the logical leap that maybe Israel would benefit
00:32:44.780 if hostilities between the U.S. and Iran kicked up again, because then you don't get the peace
00:32:48.860 deal, then the war goes on, then maybe you topple the regime. The problem is, there's no evidence
00:32:53.400 for that. I see how you could get there in the abstract, but there's actually no evidence for
00:32:57.660 that, because Iran is half denying this, but half taking responsibility. According to Iranian state
00:33:03.480 media, citing military sources, they said there would be a decisive response to any attacks based
00:33:10.720 on the, quote, pretext of the crash of a US military helicopter. Okay. So here it seems
00:33:16.920 like they're really not taking any responsibility. But then Al Jazeera reports that Iran's foreign
00:33:20.680 minister said the helicopter was not deliberately targeted. And the word deliberately is doing a lot
00:33:27.640 here. So I guess it could have been the case that Iran seems to be saying, yeah, okay, we shot it 0.55
00:33:34.460 down. But we didn't do it deliberately. We weren't deliberately targeted. Maybe we were just shooting
00:33:39.340 in the general direction of a perceived threat, but we weren't deliberately taking the helicopter
00:33:44.140 down. Or perhaps more likely, this is an instance of division within the Iranian state. Because
00:33:49.580 don't forget, the Iranian government doesn't really control Iran right now. Certainly doesn't
00:33:52.980 control the Strait of Hormuz. The Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps controls the
00:33:56.180 Strait of Hormuz, and those are not the same thing. So what the Iran foreign minister might
00:33:59.660 be saying is, look, we didn't, this wasn't a government order to shoot it down, but the IRGC
00:34:04.600 went a little rogue, got a little big for their britches, and they shot it down. But we wish they
00:34:07.560 didn't shoot it down. We actually do kind of want a peace deal. Any of those possibilities are on
00:34:13.120 the table here. And ultimately, this doesn't really change the calculation. There are a lot
00:34:18.960 of war hawks here who don't want a peace deal, who want the Iranian regime to be toppled, 0.94
00:34:24.780 who want us to go all the way, who are saying, this is ridiculous. The Iranians clearly don't 0.84
00:34:28.300 want peace, and they're not to be trusted anyway. And so we just need to go in and glass Tehran. 1.00
00:34:33.400 and we need regime change. Would that it were so simple. I guess my calculation from before 0.75
00:34:37.740 the strikes began to the day they were happening when I was on air in this chair,
00:34:42.800 and every week since then, my view has remained the same, which is that it would be great if we 0.98
00:34:47.280 could replace the Iranian regime. Wouldn't that be great if we could do so easily? If we had a 0.66
00:34:51.360 reasonable probability of success in doing that, which is one of the criteria of just war. But I 0.90
00:34:55.620 don't think we do. I think the Iranian regime is more durable than that. I think they have 50 years 0.98
00:35:00.240 worth of contingencies. And I think the last few months have really proved that it's not so easy
00:35:05.260 to topple that regime. We've been hearing forever from the propagandists that, oh, 50,000 people are
00:35:09.640 going to march into the street and the Persians are going to overthrow their oppressive regime.
00:35:12.960 They've never done it. They just haven't done it. There has been resistance and the resistance has 0.96
00:35:16.640 been defeated by the regime. So I think it would be much, much harder to topple the Iranian regime.
00:35:20.380 I don't see evidence that the regime that we would replace it with would necessarily be better. 0.68
00:35:25.940 And I'm skeptical of the proportionality here, that the good to be achieved by regime change
00:35:31.200 would outweigh the costs that would be incurred. So I think the US position remains exactly the
00:35:38.720 same, which is that we want to stop Iran's nuclear weapon. We certainly want to weaken 1.00
00:35:42.300 the regime. That means degrading their ballistic missile program. But we're probably going to stop 0.88
00:35:47.720 short of regime change. Much the same calculation that we had in Iraq during the first Gulf War
00:35:53.620 under George H.W. Bush, a war that we should note was much more successful than the second
00:35:58.260 Gulf War under George W. Bush. That seems to be the calculation. So yes, we have to respond,
00:36:02.900 but I think the president's being very responsible here. He's saying, look,
00:36:05.100 of necessity, we have to respond to this, but our calculation does not change.
00:36:09.340 Okay. Turning to domestic issues. One of the most absurd displays I've seen from the left
00:36:16.140 makes the SPLC look like child's play. One of the top liberal journalists
00:36:21.600 was just fired by Barry Weiss and her hostile takeover of CBS.
00:36:26.400 One of the top liberal journalists is shocked, bewildered that anybody could think that he and
00:36:33.000 his colleagues were biased to the left. We'll get to that momentarily. First though,
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00:39:11.340 My favourite comment yesterday is from rosygirl2485.
00:39:14.000 says, Charlie Kirk spoke endlessly to college students about AI taking over their jobs and
00:39:18.900 that their degree would become meaningless. Yeah, he did. And this was an area where Charlie and I,
00:39:23.840 we disagreed a little bit, but ultimately I think we were kind of talking about the same thing.
00:39:28.500 Because Charlie is such an impressive guy. He didn't go to college. He just went straight
00:39:33.280 into political action. He was very, very successful at it. But Charlie knew that he
00:39:37.820 needed an education. And he and I spoke about this a number of times. And so he would find
00:39:42.300 elsewhere. He would read on his own. He ended up doing the Claremont Lincoln Fellowship,
00:39:47.680 which I recommended to him. I thought it'd be good for him. I thought it'd be good for the
00:39:51.820 Claremont Institute, where Charlie could fit in what most people would get in a four-year
00:39:55.180 college education. Frankly, more than most people would get in a four-year college education,
00:39:59.140 Charlie fit into about 10 days. So his knock on college was that the degrees were basically
00:40:05.380 worthless today. But I guess my caveat to that, and where I really separate from the opinion of
00:40:13.260 virtually everyone else on the right in the last 10 years, is it doesn't have to be that way.
00:40:19.140 That's true. If you just study some trade at university, if you just study some specific
00:40:24.080 kind of computer programming or engineering or whatever, that will become obsolete. For years
00:40:28.620 and years, you heard from the right, don't go to college. But if you do go to college,
00:40:31.460 study engineering, study business, study something really practical. And I said,
00:40:35.940 no, no, no, it's the opposite. If you go to college, you should study something totally
00:40:39.240 impractical. And the reason for that is a liberal education is meant to help you make sense of your
00:40:45.600 freedom, to tamp down your lower appetites, to cultivate your higher will, to be filled with
00:40:50.160 knowledge so that you can become free because freedom is willing predicated on knowledge.
00:40:55.060 That's a very concise definition of freedom. And so getting back to that story we were talking
00:40:59.020 about yesterday. These nerdy girls in Silicon Valley, AI's taking their jobs, so they decide 0.79
00:41:02.840 to become hookers. Because they say, well, I got one thing an AI doesn't have. I got a body,
00:41:06.960 so I'm going to sell that to the oligarchs in Silicon Valley. She's getting at something real,
00:41:11.340 but it's that she's going in the wrong direction. The advantage that we have over the AI is our
00:41:18.080 humanity. And so actually, my argument is, if you're going to go to college, in some ways,
00:41:22.640 it benefits you to study the humanities. It benefits you. One thing that a computer can't do,
00:41:29.020 One thing that an AI can't do that you can do, or potentially can do, is write poetry.
00:41:34.080 Because to write poetry, you have to come up with new metaphors.
00:41:36.480 And to come up with new metaphors, you have to have sensory experience.
00:41:39.280 And you have to have cultivated an intellect and a will to make sense of that.
00:41:43.060 That's something you can get at a university.
00:41:45.480 But if you just go through college like most people do today, yeah, AI is taking your job,
00:41:49.260 and you're going to be 200 grand in the can.
00:41:50.640 Okay.
00:41:52.740 Scott Pelley, who has been at CBS's 60 Minutes for the last 150 years or so,
00:41:59.020 he is one of the most intolerably left-wing condescending journalists out there.
00:42:04.480 He just got canned by Barry Weiss. He was very upset that Barry Weiss,
00:42:07.980 a center leftist, not even a conservative. By the standards of the establishment media,
00:42:12.600 she's Francisco Franco. But by ordinary political standards, she's not even on the right. She's not
00:42:17.540 even conservative. She is like a lesbian libertarian. But by today's standards, that 1.00
00:42:22.400 makes you Mussolini. Anyway, she comes into CBS and she says, hey guys, you got to get on the
00:42:27.000 program. You got to be a little bit more objective. You can't just be such blatant propagandists all
00:42:31.380 the time. And Scott Pelley puts up a big hissy fit about this in front of the whole staff,
00:42:35.760 reportedly. And so Barry Weiss says, all right, buddy, you're fired. You're out. Sorry, I'm not
00:42:40.200 tolerating this. We're going to restore some fairness to journalism. So then Scott Pelley
00:42:44.520 goes on the New York Times podcast to whine and to make an absurd claim. What was the feeling
00:42:52.200 about that particular opening salvo to the team uh-oh she i am told said something to the effect
00:43:02.920 of why do you think the country thinks you're biased but she didn't offer any kind of a metric
00:43:09.700 you know what's your metric why why do you think so uh do you have a poll is there uh market
00:43:16.300 research what are you talking about because we certainly didn't believe that we certainly
00:43:21.980 don't think that people think that we're biased to the left. Okay, first of all, he's doing that
00:43:26.060 thing that liberals do. It's so annoying, and it's a consequence of the empirical age and the
00:43:32.460 Enlightenment and the scientific revolution just taken to the most ridiculous extreme.
00:43:37.040 But what they'll do is you'll say something totally normal, something totally common sense.
00:43:41.380 You'll say, you know, the sky looks blue today. And what the left will say is, oh yeah, do you
00:43:47.340 have a source for that? Do you have a study? Do you have a peer-reviewed study that proves that?
00:43:52.720 Or to make it more realistic, you'll say, hey, I don't think a boy can actually become a girl.
00:43:58.020 Yeah, this was an argument for the last five years. I don't think a boy can actually become
00:44:01.440 a girl. They'll say, what's your source? Excuse me, because the consensus coalition of academic
00:44:09.300 scientist colleagues of consensus, they actually say that a boy can become a girl. Where's your
00:44:14.820 source. You say, I don't know, my source is my freaking eyes and my brain, bro. My source is 0.99
00:44:19.280 called common sense, which you apparently totally lack. Yeah, what's your source and proof of that?
00:44:25.360 Yeah, I think marriage is between a man and a woman. Do you have evidence?
00:44:30.460 Yeah, okay, here's some evidence. Everyone for all of human history everywhere has thought that.
00:44:34.680 Here's my evidence, the complementarity of the sexist. And it reveals a shallowness of thought
00:44:42.160 on the part of these people who are supposed to be the fancy guys who are really wise,
00:44:45.860 wearing neckties. A shallowness of thought that is deeply embarrassing. But then to go even further,
00:44:52.360 he's asking, well, do you have evidence to show that people think that we're biased?
00:44:56.300 And the answer is yes, actually. Just right off the top, all sides media bias rating rates CBS
00:45:03.160 News as leaning left. Ad Fontes Media rates CBS News Roundup as leaning left. A study in The
00:45:09.900 Economist found CBS Evening News using more Democrat-associated language over time
00:45:13.920 and employee donations at CBS skew heavily Democrat. Pew Research just last year found
00:45:19.040 that Democrats are much more likely to use and trust CBS News. 39% of Dems get news from it
00:45:23.960 regularly. Republicans show much higher distrust for major networks, including CBS. A quarter,
00:45:30.560 roughly a quarter of Republicans trust the big three networks, but much larger shares of Republicans
00:45:35.720 do not. So even on the stupid question that he's asking, can you prove that people think we're a 0.98
00:45:41.060 little biased? Yes, actually we can. That's what all the evidence shows and none of the evidence 0.99
00:45:46.480 shows your prejudice. So just if Pelley is this oblivious, he has no business being a prominent
00:45:53.760 journalist. You don't need to be a philosopher to be a journalist. You don't need to be a theologian.
00:45:57.760 You don't need to be a scientist. You don't need to be that competent in anything, but you do at
00:46:01.840 least need to know the basic facts of public life. That's like the basic thing you need to know.
00:46:06.760 And he doesn't know the basic facts of how the public perceives him, himself, his network.
00:46:13.760 Great stuff from Barry Weiss, an absolute joy to see Scott Pelley whining and crying on air. Okay,
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