The Michael Knowles Show - June 26, 2026


Ep. 2003 - Trump Is Unleashed To Kick Out Haitian Migrants


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00:01:29.640 The Supreme Court has ruled to let President Trump remove temporary protected status for Haitian nationals after 16 years of extensions.
00:01:39.060 Now, I am no lawyer, but it seems to me that this case hinges less on abstruse interpretations of the Constitution
00:01:46.400 and more on understanding the meaning of the word temporary.
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00:02:03.320 Congressman Daria Liza Chevalier complains that ugly white women get all the hot black and Arab 1.00
00:02:11.160 guys. I am not joking. Those are almost her words verbatim. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael 0.99
00:02:16.560 Noel's show. Welcome back to the show. Theo Vaughn does not want data centers being built
00:02:41.400 around America. And I've noticed other people talking about this too. And I consider myself
00:02:47.920 rather fluent in populism and actually rather sympathetic to populism, a little bit of a
00:02:53.980 populist myself. And I don't get the data thing. I don't get the reason people hate the data
00:03:00.000 centers. In fact, I think I do get the reason people hate the data centers, but I don't think
00:03:05.760 the people who hate the data centers understand the reason that they hate them. We will get to
00:03:09.780 that in a moment. First, though, very exciting news from the Supreme Court. 6-3 decision the
00:03:17.700 Supreme Court says that after, what has it been, eight years at this point, Trump can finally
00:03:25.540 remove the temporary protected status from the Haitians who were brought here in 2010.
00:03:33.380 2010, you get that big earthquake, and the United States says, okay, some Haitians can come here if
00:03:40.060 you want and be protected. And then Trump comes into office after he enters in 2017 and says,
00:03:46.120 okay, it's been long enough. We're going to remove the temporary protected status.
00:03:49.040 And the courts have been gumming this up ever since. And now in the year of our Lord, 2026,
00:03:56.900 finally, the courts say, yes, the president can remove the temporary protected status of the
00:04:02.480 people who've been here for 16 years. This overturns decisions by federal judges in New
00:04:07.200 York and D.C. The number of people we're talking about here, it's not just 5,000 or 10,000 Haitians.
00:04:13.220 We're talking about 350,000 Haitians, plus another 6,100 people from Syria who have TPS.
00:04:21.380 That after last year, the Supreme Court allowed President Trump to remove the TPS
00:04:25.940 from 300,000 Venezuelans. So even just in the last year or so, you're talking about some
00:04:33.200 650, 660,000 foreigners who were here, who President Trump has removed on top of
00:04:41.800 formally deporting another 700,000 plus people in the first term with one and a half million
00:04:48.760 people self-deporting because of tightening up on the rules. In addition to shutting down the
00:04:54.400 border, which stopped the influx of 3 million people a year. So you are seeing at this point
00:04:58.800 a massive shift in people who were here or would have been here to not being here,
00:05:05.340 which is a really, really good thing. I mean, we're talking about, what is that?
00:05:10.320 Six million people almost in about a year and a half. That's actually pretty good as far as I'm
00:05:16.100 concerned. The question that on a lot of people's minds is how could it have taken this long? Why
00:05:21.060 does it require an order of the Supreme Court to say that the president is allowed to remove the
00:05:27.620 people who were here temporarily? It would seem like that's the meaning of the word temporary.
00:05:32.620 You remember that old clip of Ben, when Ben was doing the college speeches, and he said,
00:05:37.560 girls shouldn't be in the Boy Scouts. And some liberal girl said, well, how do you know,
00:05:41.180 where does it say that? And he says, it says that in the word Boy Scouts. That's the same
00:05:45.460 thing with TPS. Where does it say that the president can remove these people from the
00:05:50.480 countries. I think it's in the word temporary. So now this has triggered the libs into saying
00:05:57.060 that this is awful. This is tantamount to killing these people. It's not safe to go back to Haiti. 0.84
00:06:02.400 And Stephen Miller, deputy chief of staff at the White House, was asked if it is safe,
00:06:07.760 if it is okay for the Haitians to be returned to Haiti. And he gives what I think might be 0.80
00:06:13.200 the very perfect answer.
00:06:14.840 Does the administration consider Haiti a safe country?
00:06:19.840 For Haitians?
00:06:20.840 Absolutely. 0.99
00:06:21.840 For Haitians?
00:06:22.840 Yes.
00:06:23.840 I mean, yes, Haitians live in Haiti.
00:06:25.840 It's not our position that Haitians should leave Haiti.
00:06:28.840 I mean, it would be crazy for us to say that Haitians couldn't live in Haiti.
00:06:31.840 It's their country. 1.00
00:06:32.840 Of course Haitians shouldn't live in Haiti. 1.00
00:06:34.840 There's no viable asylum, or use a technical term here, CAT claim, or withholding claim 0.99
00:06:41.840 for any Haitian seeking relief from going back to Haiti, to their homeland. The fact that there
00:06:46.260 might be pockets of Haiti where there's higher crime rates, guess what? There's pockets of 1.00
00:06:51.020 Chicago with crime rates just as high, right? There's pockets of cities like St. Louis with
00:06:58.120 crime just as high. Pockets of Los Angeles, crime just as high. It has never been the case
00:07:02.520 that having communities that have high crime rates is a basis for asylum. Never has been,
00:07:07.260 never will be. Okay, now listen, he gives the kind of more normal political answer there at
00:07:13.300 the end, where he says, look, you're saying it's very unsafe in Haiti. Yeah, sure. I mean, I would
00:07:17.280 say Haiti, not the nicest country in the world. But look, there are even parts of America, the
00:07:21.760 country that these people have received asylum in, temporary asylum, temporary protected status,
00:07:26.880 temporary, did I say temporary? There are parts of America that are just as dangerous.
00:07:31.980 So come on, that's not a good argument. All of you libs who want to keep the Haitians here 1.00
00:07:37.180 forever. But the better point that Miller makes is at the very top of this, and it's brilliant 1.00
00:07:43.420 actually. Stephen Miller is making a teleological argument for getting rid of the Haitians. He's 1.00
00:07:52.520 making a natural law argument for getting rid of the Haitians. The lib journalists think they
00:07:57.360 have him in a gotcha because everyone knows that Haiti is not a nice place. Haiti is a voodoo 1.00
00:08:04.640 cursed island that has been absolutely awful, effectively hell on earth since Toussaint's 1.00
00:08:12.100 voodoo slave rebellion. It's just terrible, and everybody knows it. So the lib journalist says, 1.00
00:08:19.020 well, how can you send the Haitians back to Haiti? The State Department encourages Americans 0.98
00:08:25.700 not to travel to Haiti. So is Haiti really safe? Should these Haitians go back to Haiti?
00:08:32.380 And Stephen Miller says, well, yes, Haiti is safe for Haitians. 1.00
00:08:38.780 Haitians should go back to Haiti. 1.00
00:08:41.700 That's what Haiti's for. 1.00
00:08:44.500 These are the kinds of classical arguments and the classical way of understanding things that is totally foreign to modern people. 0.91
00:08:52.540 But a lot of it boils down to things are for things.
00:08:58.700 The leftist ears tumbler is for the leftist ears, or in this case, my fruity millennial seltzer.
00:09:03.900 The microphone is for conducting my mellifluous voice to your ears. 0.95
00:09:08.200 And Haiti is for Haitians.
00:09:11.440 So there's no double standard.
00:09:13.300 There's no hypocrisy in the State Department discouraging Americans from going on vacation to Haiti.
00:09:19.760 And the White House saying the Haitians need to go back to Haiti.
00:09:24.260 Haiti is for the Haitians.
00:09:27.100 And what is implied in this argument is America is not for all the Haitians, any Haitian who wants to come here. 0.98
00:09:35.140 Because if the principle that the left is promoting here were to be applied universally, we would have to throw open our borders and let in the entire world. 0.92
00:09:44.540 Because statistically, the entire rest of the world sucks compared to America. 0.57
00:09:49.840 Statistically, other than in those cities like Chicago and wherever else, parts of LA, 0.97
00:09:55.520 statistically, every place in the world is less safe than America,
00:10:00.100 less prosperous than America, less stable than America.
00:10:03.620 So if you apply the principle that the lib journalists are trying to advocate here universally,
00:10:08.920 we would throw open our borders, which is exactly what they want.
00:10:11.640 So how do you get out of that? 0.94
00:10:14.260 You point out what countries are for.
00:10:18.360 Countries are not for a dumping grounds of anyone from anywhere who wants to come in and make a buck.
00:10:26.300 Countries are for a people, the people of that country.
00:10:31.180 And you can fiddle around with immigration rates, but there's no eternal law that says you have to let everybody in.
00:10:38.020 Furthermore, when the Haitians were brought here in 2010, it was supposed to be a temporary measure.
00:10:44.580 They were supposed to be here for 18 months. 0.94
00:10:47.920 That was 16 years ago. The Libs don't want it to be temporary. And every time a president
00:10:54.400 who was elected by the people tries to exercise the most basic aspects of his duty, which is to
00:11:02.460 run the country, police the country, determine who comes in and out, the courts have said no
00:11:10.000 for years and years and years now. Finally, they say, sorry, you're out on top of the Venezuelans. 0.69
00:11:15.640 this is really, really good stuff. The Democrats, of course, are objecting, not just the media,
00:11:19.380 but Chuck Schumer. Listen to what Chuck Schumer said. In a cruel and inhumane decision, the
00:11:23.660 Supreme Court just turned its back on more than 300,000 Haitians and thousands of Syrians who've
00:11:28.200 worked and raised families here because they faced violence and instability back home. Put a pause.
00:11:33.360 How have they raised families here? I thought they were only supposed to be here for 18 months.
00:11:38.360 They're supposed to be here temporarily. They don't have green cards. They're not supposed
00:11:42.580 to be here for 20 years. You can't raise a family in 18 months. The only way that they would have
00:11:48.880 raised families here, the only way to get to the premise of your outrage is if you've already
00:11:54.480 abused the law, you Democrats, which is exactly what happened. TPS exists for exactly this reason.
00:12:01.040 Put a pause. TPS exists so that Haitians can raise their families here? No, that would be PPS. That 1.00
00:12:07.460 would be permanent protected status. This is TPS. This is temporary. It's what happens when an
00:12:12.260 earthquake occurs, and then you go back home. Chuck Schumer says, no, Haiti and Syria remain
00:12:18.820 unsafe today instead of showing basic humanity. Donald Trump and this court have chosen fear,
00:12:24.980 chaos, and cruelty, basic humanity. Basic humanity to let in one of the most criminal
00:12:31.440 populations on earth to just remain here totally in violation of the law.
00:12:36.380 in other words the president should not show basic humanity to american citizens he should
00:12:42.580 not show basic humanity to his constituents to his voters who elected him with the popular vote
00:12:47.060 no no no he needs to show extraordinary humanity i think ultimately injustice to everyone by letting 0.95
00:12:55.260 the haitians stay here forever but do you recognize the problem with the libs argument here
00:13:01.680 so the libs argued in the supreme court case they argued that trump was violating equal protection
00:13:09.660 and he was unjustly discriminating against the haitians because he called haiti an s-h-i-t
00:13:18.700 whole country so they said he's racist he's bigoted he's prejudiced he's not applying the 0.81
00:13:23.760 law fairly he's targeting these people and that's why they need to be able to stay for another 16
00:13:28.340 20 years. But Chuck Schumer is admitting that Trump was right. When he says Haiti is not safe
00:13:37.320 today, what he's saying is Haiti is an SHIT whole country. When the reporter says that you can't 1.00
00:13:44.060 send the Haitians back to Stephen Miller, the reporter is admitting Haiti is an SHIT whole 1.00
00:13:47.960 country. But wait, wait, wait. I seem to recall all of the libs, when Trump originally made that 1.00
00:13:53.920 claim. All of the Libs are arguing that Haiti was some kind of Caribbean paradise.
00:13:58.920 This past Saturday, we aired our Conan in Haiti special, and while we were in Haiti,
00:14:04.660 we offered Haitians their own version of Make America Great Again hats. It's a hat that says
00:14:10.540 Haiti is great already. We offered it to them, and they were quite happy to have it.
00:14:14.140 People really like the slogan in Haiti. They like it so much so that Omaze.com is now
00:14:23.820 exclusively offering this Haiti is great already t-shirt. Haiti is great already. We had a great
00:14:31.880 trip to Haiti and Haiti is great already. And then you get all these guys, Bill Maher,
00:14:35.300 Susan Sarandon, Conan, wearing these stupid shirts that say Haiti is great already. Well, 0.99
00:14:40.660 great. How charitable is Trump? He's sending the Haitians back to this island paradise.
00:14:46.740 he should win an award he should be lauded by by conan and bill maher and susan sarandon right 1.00
00:14:53.960 or no or is haiti really dangerous so much so that it's some crime against humanity to send 0.57
00:15:00.680 haitians back to haiti which is it because the exact same people have been arguing the
00:15:05.680 totally opposite points with regard to this issue whenever it suits them
00:15:11.660 were they lying then or are they lying now? It's actually neither. It's even more insidious than
00:15:20.140 that. So much of liberalism comes down to the belief that saying false things can make them
00:15:26.820 true. Liberalism, it occurs to me, ultimately is a voluntarist religion and ideology.
00:15:34.920 It didn't totally start out that way. The liberal project, going back to the Enlightenment,
00:15:40.240 started out kind of hyper-rationalist, this idea that you could disenchant the world,
00:15:47.100 reduce everything to the level of pure economic calculation, and we would all live in great
00:15:52.440 prosperity. But over time, liberalism has adopted, because that is fundamentally contrary to the way
00:16:00.000 the world really works, liberalism over time has morphed, and it's become essentially a
00:16:04.760 a voluntarist ideology, an ideology based purely on will. Whatever I want to be true just is going
00:16:12.400 to be true. If I want a man to be a woman, the man's going to be a woman. If I don't want the 0.99
00:16:16.240 man to be a woman, he won't be a woman. This is why their arguments on transgenderism were always 1.00
00:16:20.800 so confused. When they would try to talk about at what age you could transition or in what context,
00:16:25.780 on what sports teams, in which bathrooms, there wasn't a ton of consistency. One,
00:16:30.600 one, because the ideology was absurd, but two, because fundamentally they believe that they can
00:16:35.580 just totally change the world with their own words, like Humpty Dumpty. So they believe when
00:16:41.340 they say Haiti is great to own Trump, Haiti really is great. And you can see the videos of
00:16:47.660 Conan O'Brien swimming in the Caribbean. And then when they say that Haiti is hell on earth,
00:16:53.580 also to own Trump, then Haiti really is hell on earth. And the determining factor is not the
00:16:59.900 nature of Haiti. It's not anything real or objective in the world. It's just whatever they
00:17:04.020 say. The meaning of words is whatever they want it to be, which is why it's so brilliant that
00:17:10.120 Stephen Miller is making this kind of natural law argument for sending the Haitians back. 0.81
00:17:15.280 He says, no, no, I'm not saying it would be safe for Americans to go to Haiti. I'm saying it's 0.99
00:17:18.600 safe for Haitians to go to Haiti because that's what Haiti is for. Haiti is for the Haitians. 1.00
00:17:23.840 And now we can all admit, at least this week, that Haiti is an SHIT whole country, and we don't want to become like Haiti. 0.99
00:17:31.800 We've been more than generous with the Haitians. 1.00
00:17:34.280 We've allowed them to overstay their temporary status by approximately 14 and a half years, and now they have to go home.
00:17:43.720 There are elected politicians now who are saying they are going to fight the federal government to protect the Haitians in violation,
00:17:49.800 not just of the trump administration not just of the congress in in what temporary protected
00:17:57.620 status is but also in violation of the supreme court so in violation of all three branches of
00:18:02.000 the federal government you have zoran mamdani coming to the rescue of the haitians and this
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00:19:28.000 Zoran, the Ugandan Muslim communist sitting in his office in front of a gay pride flag and a 0.95
00:19:35.380 soccer ball. Man, oh man, wouldn't the founding fathers be confused? Zoran Mamdani says that he
00:19:43.100 will stand up against the Supreme Court and keep the Haitians here indefinitely. 0.99
00:19:48.520 We saw today the Supreme Court make a decision that is putting so many people's lives in jeopardy.
00:19:56.260 And I just came back from a rally with 1199 as I stood alongside a number of Haitian New Yorkers
00:20:02.240 who are concerned about what this means for their status in our city.
00:20:05.760 And we stand here ready to be in solidarity with all of those
00:20:09.380 who are concerned by today's decision.
00:20:11.120 And beyond just the language of solidarity, actions of solidarity.
00:20:15.020 Now, what that means when it comes to our city is
00:20:18.140 if you are worried about what this means for your status,
00:20:20.860 if you're worried about what this means for your family,
00:20:23.400 I would encourage you to call our Mayor's Office of Immigrant Affairs hotline.
00:20:27.740 Not just words of solidarity, but actions of solidarity.
00:20:30.640 call our hotline. He doesn't want to be too explicit and put himself in legal jeopardy,
00:20:34.920 but what he's saying is we will help you violate federal law. We'll help you evade the police.
00:20:39.320 We're already a sanctuary city. We've already undermined immigration enforcement, and we're 0.74
00:20:44.040 going to help you defy all three branches of the federal government. This dovetails on something 0.70
00:20:50.480 we were talking about yesterday, which is this is maybe the clearest sign yet that we need to
00:20:56.260 drastically restrict all immigration, not just illegal, but legal too. This whole problem is
00:21:02.500 caused by immigration, by mass migration, the whole problem. There's this cope that the New York
00:21:07.600 Post was posting yesterday, which is that we can just blame liberal white women. They're the most 1.00
00:21:14.220 irrational, crazy liberal group, and all things are the fault of liberal white women. It's not 1.00
00:21:18.880 the immigrants. It's not foreign peoples that are hostile to our country. No, no, it's just
00:21:23.680 liberal white women. And the reason you even hear many conservatives go after them is because it's 1.00
00:21:28.680 the safest way to seem edgy. No one's going to be angry with you for attacking liberal white women. 0.99
00:21:35.280 But you don't want to be called a xenophobe. You don't want to be called racist, do you? You can't
00:21:38.960 touch the immigrants. But it's an immigration problem. Zoran Mamdani is not American. He's 1.00
00:21:44.840 Ugandan. His culture is quite foreign. He came to America. He's used and abused our system. And 1.00
00:21:50.420 he is now undermining our entire constitutional order at a very basic level. He himself is an
00:21:56.320 immigrant. He is undermining federal law and the Supreme Court's decision in order to protect 1.00
00:22:01.460 other immigrants. They're not even really immigrants. There would be immigrants who 0.99
00:22:04.740 are here on temporary protected status. But because of the politics of mass migration and
00:22:09.780 factionalism and tribal loyalties, they're going to undermine all of that. You can't have a country
00:22:14.960 like this. It's not even anything against the Haitians in particular. It is a weird voodoo
00:22:21.360 country that does seem to be cursed, but it's not even anything against the Haitians in particular. 1.00
00:22:26.980 This is true going back to ancient Greece and ancient Rome and the scholastics. You just can't 0.97
00:22:33.580 have that many immigrants in a country and have a stable country. You can have some immigrants, 1.00
00:22:38.300 but a very small number. When you have too many, you have to greatly restrict all of it. 1.00
00:22:42.900 It's not just a problem of breaking our law or not waiting in line or not filling out the right
00:22:47.020 paperwork. It's one, the sheer number of them, because we have the highest foreign born percentage 1.00
00:22:53.140 of the population ever. Too many. Whether they filled out the right paperwork or not, 1.00
00:22:57.140 we have too many of them. And two, this is the one you're really not allowed to say,
00:23:01.160 it's the type of immigrant. Some immigrants are better for the country than others.
00:23:06.500 Some immigrants are more assimilable to the country than others. Some immigrants bring with 0.99
00:23:11.580 them cultural habits and religious beliefs that are more in line with the country than others. 0.94
00:23:18.000 It's easier to assimilate a Brit than it is to assimilate someone from Djibouti, okay? It's 0.90
00:23:24.320 easier to assimilate a Christian than it is to assimilate a Muslim. It's easier to assimilate 1.00
00:23:29.320 a lot of people, a Canadian even, America's evil top hat, another dark voodoo country, 0.99
00:23:35.020 but it is easier to assimilate even a Canadian than it is to assimilate a Haitian to the American 0.98
00:23:40.500 culture. It's just a fact. And so there is a quantitative aspect and a qualitative aspect 0.66
00:23:46.040 of immigrants, but it does not hinge merely on legality or illegality. Mass migration generally,
00:23:53.140 even in its legal forms, is clearly largely illegal anyway. The way that they're trying
00:23:59.380 to force these hundreds of thousands of Haitians and Venezuelans and thousands of Syrians to stay 0.80
00:24:04.200 here is through legal processes while abusing the law. And it's just too much. And we need to get 0.71
00:24:09.580 down to the heart of the matter and stop dancing around with a bunch of babble about procedural
00:24:14.620 norms when really what we're talking about is substantive goods. Do you want Muslim foreigners 1.00
00:24:21.360 taking over your cities, only getting elected because 40% of the voters in your city are not 0.99
00:24:26.940 from here and 60% of the voters in your city are not from here or their parents are not from here, 0.94
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00:27:06.680 We're talking about, on the one hand, mass migration, lack of assimilation, 0.96
00:27:11.340 cultures that are not really fit with our culture. And we're also talking about the decay of 0.99
00:27:16.260 institutions and the rot within our own nation that led us to be even more susceptible to these
00:27:20.820 problems and it just so happens that there is a movie coming out from the daily wire taking on 0.98
00:27:28.420 this very point and that would be run hide fight infidels check it out we have a terror warning in 0.91
00:27:38.100 northern virginia radical islam has designs openly on the west the fbi boarded a terror plot on new 0.97
00:27:43.300 year's eve violence attack over the halloween weekend in michigan protests on college campuses 0.86
00:27:48.420 is showing no signs of stopping.
00:28:18.420 Let's go.
00:28:48.420 now this is not a sequel to run hide fight probably our most successful movie we've ever
00:28:56.700 released uh because there are no returning characters it's not really in the nature of
00:29:00.500 these stories to have returning characters uh this is totally different uh much more timely
00:29:04.680 and it's coming soon do we have a date on when that's coming i want to see that movie
00:29:08.860 when is the movie coming you're not going to tell me we don't have a date okay that's fine
00:29:12.480 uh in any case i think the theme of the movie is only going to be more pertinent as time goes
00:29:18.400 on. Now, speaking of Arabs, DAC, she's the new AOC. She's the lady who won the Democrat
00:29:24.640 congressional primary in New York's 13th district. Daryaliza Chevalier has some really interesting
00:29:33.560 commentary. No one had ever heard of her until she won this primary. Now people are looking back
00:29:37.700 at some of her past public statements. And there's a lot of the communism and the weird
00:29:43.000 leftist politics. But there's one post in particular that is going viral.
00:29:48.980 This is from her real Twitter account, Daria Elisa Bonet. And she posted it in 2019.
00:29:55.860 And it says, Black men, Arab men, shaking hands. What do they agree on? Fetishizing ugly
00:30:06.380 colonizer women. Frame it, frame it. This is definitely left-wing 1.00
00:30:16.000 racial identity lady politics. This is the perfect encapsulation of that. But the more I look at the 0.98
00:30:24.580 tweet, the more I wonder if this is a perfect encapsulation of politics generally. When she
00:30:29.760 says colonizer here, what she means is white women. And so she's very, very angry at black men 0.99
00:30:35.580 and Arab men for finding white women attractive. And this is backed up by a lot of social
00:30:42.220 scientific data, data that have come out of some of the dating apps like Tinder,
00:30:47.080 that it turns out that white women get the most swipes and other races get fewer positive swipes
00:30:54.260 from all races than white women. So this woman, Daria Lisa Chevalier, is very angry about this. 0.86
00:31:05.280 She is not a white woman, and she seems very, very angry that the white ladies are getting 0.99
00:31:09.960 all the hot black and Arab guys. 1.00
00:31:12.620 Your next congressman, New York. 1.00
00:31:14.080 Your next congressman focusing on the issues that matter, namely her envy at those white 1.00
00:31:19.840 women who she calls ugly for getting all those hot black and Arab fellas. 1.00
00:31:25.560 It is a reminder, not just that the libs are totally freaking nuts and they're getting 1.00
00:31:31.560 more nuts by the day. 0.97
00:31:32.900 this is actually a deeper reminder about politics, that a lot of politics is psychological.
00:31:40.640 A lot of politics is psychological. I have a friend of mine, I won't say who,
00:31:44.740 who says that facts don't care about your feelings. But I have another friend, we used
00:31:49.520 to have a rejoinder, we'd say, yeah, but politics exclusively cares about your feelings.
00:31:52.880 And I've even changed my views on this over the years. I remember some years ago, I was talking
00:31:58.020 to a political psychologist. This was someone who studies the supposed psychology of politics.
00:32:04.480 And he was at a university in California. And I remember thinking, this is such ridiculous 0.92
00:32:09.420 psychobabble nonsense. Politics is a matter of reason. People have different political views 0.97
00:32:16.760 because they have reasoned differently and they have differing competencies and aptitude for
00:32:22.880 reason. But if we could only make better arguments, then everybody would agree with
00:32:27.720 us politically. Then everybody would be a conservative Republican. And the older I get,
00:32:32.260 the clearer it seems to me that that is not in fact the case. We do have reason. I wish we would
00:32:38.120 use our reason more. We have a limited store of reason as human beings. But that is not chiefly
00:32:44.120 what political identity is about, nor should it be. Forget about the libs who make it all about 0.99
00:32:49.200 their subjective intersectional feelings and relativism. But even the conservatives,
00:32:55.400 the smartest conservative political philosophers ever have observed that conservatism is not
00:33:00.520 really a set of ideas. This is the point I made. They're starting to post some of my events from
00:33:06.640 when I was at Oxford a few weeks ago. The last one to drop, it hasn't come up yet,
00:33:10.980 is the formal debate that evening on whether or not Trump has betrayed conservatism. My speech
00:33:15.040 was very much on this subject. Conservatism is not a bunch of policies. A lot of ideologues
00:33:20.640 will argue that it is. They'll say it's free trade and strong national defense and this and that,
00:33:24.980 but it's not a set of policies. Conservatives have embraced free trade and protectionism.
00:33:29.160 They've embraced less migration, more migration. They've embraced a hawkish foreign policy and a
00:33:34.520 dovish foreign policy. It's not, if conservatism is just policy, there is no conservatism.
00:33:41.100 Nor is conservatism even some abstract set of moral principles.
00:33:47.420 Even those are a little bit ambiguous.
00:33:51.360 And there are plenty of religious beliefs that can lead into a kind of conservatism.
00:33:57.960 According to people like Edmund Burke, the founder of Anglo-American conservatism,
00:34:01.660 or people like Michael Oakeshott, or people like Russell Kirk, or people like Roger Scruton,
00:34:05.700 according to some of the best conservative thinkers over the last 300 years,
00:34:11.020 Conservatism, this is Scruton's line, is less an idea than an inclination. You can look at someone
00:34:17.500 and know, are they conservative or libs? You can just kind of see it in the way they behave,
00:34:23.560 in the way they dress, in the way they comport themselves. And leftism, I was reading yesterday,
00:34:28.960 I'm kind of telling on myself, I was reading old Uncle Ted's Unabomber manifesto, you know,
00:34:33.180 Ted Kaczynski, the industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human
00:34:38.080 race, that whole thing. And I was reading it for a separate project I was working on. But anyway,
00:34:42.880 I was going through it and Kaczynski diagnoses leftism. He was a little kooky himself, obviously,
00:34:49.540 but he did make some interesting observations. And he realized that leftism is largely a matter
00:34:55.040 of psychology. It's people who have low self-esteem and in a way kind of hate themselves
00:34:59.940 and people who are overly socialized. So they're more inclined to go with the crowd and they don't
00:35:05.300 really think for themselves, and their ideas aren't totally grounded on sound first principles.
00:35:10.460 And in that way, Uncle Ted was wrong about a lot of things, but in that one, he was right.
00:35:15.200 Politics is largely psychological. And I think one of the reasons, to put a little bow on this
00:35:21.960 and bring it all full circle, one of the reasons that conservatives have just gotten absolutely
00:35:27.080 routed on the immigration issue is because we fail to recognize that politics comes down not
00:35:32.940 just to rationalist principles that we deduce from pure reason and write on the tabula rasa
00:35:39.700 of our polities. But politics is about loyalties, and it's really an extension of family bonds.
00:35:46.300 And it's about loyalties that are in some ways sentimental, that are tribal, surely,
00:35:52.700 that do involve overlapping intersectional identities, not in the way the left means it,
00:36:00.280 but in the sense that they involve a lot more than just pure reason. 0.99
00:36:04.880 Never underestimate how much a woman's jealousy can inform her politics. 0.58
00:36:12.400 In this case of Gary Elisa Chevalier, never underestimate the fury. 0.87
00:36:18.940 Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, but never underestimate the power of these sorts of 1.00
00:36:25.220 psychosexual animosities and how they play out in politics of race and politics of gender 1.00
00:36:30.960 and politics of migration. And you add all those things together and increasingly that is the
00:36:36.140 politics of the Democrat party and potentially of our country. Ignore that those realities at
00:36:40.640 your own risk. Okay. One thing I really want to get to, but I, ah, do I have time? Do I have to,
00:36:47.760 I want to get to it. I'm getting to it. Theo Vaughn on the data centers. We'll get to Marco
00:36:53.960 Rubio and J.D. Vance and this whole totally contrived campaign to go after the vice president,
00:37:02.220 largely driven by what used to be never Trump. But this whole contrived idea that Rubio and
00:37:07.460 Vance hate each other or something, both of these men and Trump keep dispelling this time and time
00:37:11.500 again. But the one thing I do want to get to before we go is Theo Vaughn. Because Theo Vaughn
00:37:14.760 made an interesting observation on his show that is reflective of, I think, a lot of populist
00:37:20.000 sentiment and it's one that i just i can't get behind take it away we don't want any data bro
00:37:27.220 we don't want any nobody wants a data center dude nobody wants it and the people that want them to
00:37:33.860 me bro they seem kind of evil i believe this is my hypothy uh theory that they're gonna all it's
00:37:42.320 all gonna be locked in with uh these flock cameras or some company like this palantir one of these
00:37:46.820 company's going to be owning all of this information they're going to put it all in
00:37:50.200 it's all going to be we're all going to be locked down everybody you're not going to be able to live
00:37:55.400 or do anything that feels human right there's going to become this kind of score this sort of
00:38:01.100 like social and even emotional sort of credit score and then ai is going to become it will it
00:38:07.300 won't ever really but it's going to try to become like our new god okay i get a real kick out of
00:38:14.960 Theo Vaughn, he seems like a real nice guy. I don't know that I've ever actually met him in
00:38:19.100 person, but he seems like a real nice guy. He probably has very good intentions. He raises
00:38:23.760 important questions that we should think about in the abstract, like whether or not we're making
00:38:27.960 an idol out of AI, whether or not we've allowed government surveillance to go too far or whatever.
00:38:33.580 But his discrete point here on the data centers, which is becoming a bigger political issue,
00:38:38.380 should we build data centers in states and municipalities or should we not?
00:38:41.760 his argument on the data centers is just Chinese propaganda. That's all it is. I don't think he
00:38:49.860 knows that. I don't think he's getting paid off by the Chinese. I don't think it's any of that.
00:38:53.860 But that's what it is. That's where that idea comes from. It's the only explanation I can come
00:38:58.920 up with for it. There has been this populist appeal over the last six months or so against
00:39:04.780 data centers. And the thing about good propaganda is good propaganda isn't just totally made up.
00:39:10.480 It's not that it comes completely out of nowhere. It plays on existing anxieties. It plays on
00:39:15.740 existing divisions. When the Soviet Union is pumping a lot of racial propaganda, civil rights
00:39:21.580 propaganda into the US in the 60s and 70s, it's not that they invented racial strife in America.
00:39:26.000 There was racial strife. They just really exacerbated it to create divisions. That's
00:39:30.580 what's going on here. Yeah, there are anxieties in America about over-surveillance. That's not
00:39:38.040 a problem that came around with data centers. That's a problem that came around with the
00:39:40.760 internet and with the Patriot Act and with fitting cameras into tiny little glass frames and having
00:39:48.080 cameras everywhere in our lives. It has very little to do with the rise of data centers,
00:39:52.160 but it does make people anxious. The fact that we seem to be making gods in our increasingly
00:39:57.660 irreligious society, we make gods out of technology. That's true. Again, I was mentioning 0.95
00:40:01.640 Ted Kaczynski earlier. That has been an anxiety for many decades at this point.
00:40:05.400 the discrete political issue. What are the data centers for? The data centers are for
00:40:13.040 technology, specifically AI, AI, which is propping up our entire stock market, 0.56
00:40:18.560 AI, which is the arms race that we are currently in with China, China, a nation that is currently 0.52
00:40:25.100 at war with us. They're in a kind of low-grade, sneaky Chinese kind of war in the sense that
00:40:30.140 they're not firing missiles at us, but they are sending their spies to infect our crops with 1.00
00:40:33.980 bioweapons, like all the time. And then these stories pop up in the news, and we just kind of
00:40:38.780 forget about them after a week or two. But we are effectively in a war with China, and we are
00:40:43.280 especially in an arms race, especially when it comes to AI. And so the question you have to ask
00:40:47.820 yourself when some new political argument or some new political idea comes up, the first question I
00:40:51.980 would recommend asking yourself is, who benefits from this? Cui bono, who benefits? That is going
00:40:56.820 to be a really good guide to how you can think about politics. And when it comes to the anti-data
00:41:01.460 center stuff, there are legitimate concerns. Will the data centers raise energy prices?
00:41:06.320 Will they affect water or something? I don't know. Will they displace other jobs in a municipality?
00:41:12.780 I think the answer to that largely is no. But those are interesting questions worth considering,
00:41:18.540 worth debating before you greenlight the data center. But should we build data centers, period?
00:41:25.860 It depends. Do you want to lose a war to China or do you want to win a war with China? Or do you
00:41:29.420 want to have a chance of winning a war with China. I'm not even sure if we can win. 0.52
00:41:33.140 Who most benefits from American popular sentiment turning against America supporting the thing that
00:41:40.640 is propping up our whole stock market and which is the only thing that we're really fighting China
00:41:44.900 over right now? The chief thing. We're fighting them over a lot of things. But the chief thing 0.93
00:41:48.580 that we're fighting China over. Who benefits? China does. And there are lots of influence 0.92
00:41:54.260 network. It's so funny. People will be so quick to point out the Qatari influencer campaigns,
00:42:00.020 but they'll never recognize the Israeli influencer campaigns. In other words,
00:42:03.400 they'll never recognize it coming from the other side. They'll recognize that America pushes a lot
00:42:07.980 of state propaganda. They won't recognize that China pushes a lot of state propaganda on us or
00:42:11.840 Russia, but everybody does it. And on this thing, Theo Vaughn seems like a real nice guy, and I'm
00:42:17.480 glad he's raising interesting questions. But let's not fall for a thing that would not only
00:42:25.600 collapse our stock market, not only collapse our economy, but we're a nation. We're not a people
00:42:32.340 that serves an economy. The economy serves the people. More to the point at a geopolitical level,
00:42:38.040 let's not allow China to demoralize us into winning the most important competition we're
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00:43:52.740 was picked by the producers on Spotify. We'll see how they did. This is from DJ Pund. Michael,
00:43:57.540 since the producers keep failing and refuse to make up Tee Hee Hee Tuesday, they should be
00:44:01.820 forced to do an entire week of Tee Hee Hee. Every day should be based on the normal theme, music,
00:44:06.600 videos for monday religion videos for thursday and so on i agree hee hee i agree hee hee with
00:44:14.460 the t hee week but before we get to t hee hee friday our mailbag is sponsored by pure talk
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00:44:24.680 hi michael it's joe isabel brown has taken this on the internet has taken this on but i don't
00:44:31.980 believe you have and would love your take. I'm a father of three young daughters, one who's almost
00:44:36.960 five, one who's almost three, and one who just turned six months. And I keep seeing videos
00:44:42.200 circulating on whether girl dads like me should take their daughters into the women's or men's
00:44:48.420 restroom. From what I can tell, the general consensus is the women's restroom. However,
00:44:54.740 both make me a little uncomfortable. As a father, what do you think the right approach is? Do I
00:45:00.900 announce my presence before entering and only proceed if the women's restroom is empty or if 1.00
00:45:07.500 there are women in there ask if they're comfortable with me taking my daughters in there in other 0.60
00:45:12.380 words ww mkd what would michael knowles do thank you you you choose the restroom based on the sex
00:45:22.060 of the adult that's the answer i'm not a girl dad yet i guess i am actually you know my future
00:45:29.820 daughter is my current daughter who is in the womb right now, but I have not had the experience yet
00:45:34.460 of acting as a father to a daughter. So I haven't had to deal with this issue, but I soon will.
00:45:40.740 You do it, you pick the bathroom based on the sex of the adult. Because if you were to go with
00:45:47.620 your suggestion that the father takes the little girls into the women's restroom, then at the 0.75
00:45:53.980 population level, there is no such thing as women's restrooms anymore because adult men will
00:45:58.480 be in the women's room all the time. And that's totally ridiculous and abolishes women's bathrooms. 1.00
00:46:04.320 Now, the ideal scenario is that your wife takes the girls into the bathroom. That is not always 1.00
00:46:09.500 possible. In very sad cases, you know, a mother has died or people get divorced. So it's not,
00:46:16.980 again, I recognize it's not always possible. In as much as it is possible, you should just have
00:46:21.820 the mother take the girls in. But it's based on the sex of the adult. You think about this, 1.00
00:46:28.720 when your wife is taking your three and five-year-old son to go to the bathroom at the 0.86
00:46:34.880 amusement park or the airport or whatever, does she go into the men's bathroom or the women's 0.97
00:46:38.620 bathroom? She goes into the women's bathroom. You would go into the men's bathroom. Because 1.00
00:46:42.940 you are the one who is autonomous. You are the one who is of maturity. You are the one really
00:46:50.420 fully acting here and the kids are sort of coming along with you. So that's what you would do.
00:46:56.580 I guess it's complicated if the bathroom only has urinals or something, but I don't know,
00:47:00.620 that seems rare. That's an edge case. Yeah, no, you should not go into the women's bathroom ever.
00:47:05.520 Next question. Michael, congratulations on 2,000 episodes. That's incredible. 1.00
00:47:12.480 I looked up your first episode and you were talking about Al Gore. This was eight years ago
00:47:17.180 And you're like, hey, guess what? Al Gore wasn't right about anything. And like a little while ago, you were like, hey, guys, Al Gore still isn't right about anything. So I appreciate the consistency. In that same vein, where do you think the Democrat Party is going to go? Because they just continue to double down. They haven't learned anything. Like, where do they go from here?
00:47:40.980 Yeah, Trump is a Nazi. I know eventually it'll be J.D. is a Nazi. Republicans in general are Nazis. But like where as a party are they heading? Is it straight into socialism, communism? What are they going to do? 0.94
00:47:57.320 great question and just to the first point i'm glad someone caught the easter egg the al gore
00:48:04.200 easter egg because as i was preparing for my 2000th episode was i don't think it was on episode
00:48:08.200 2000 i think it was 1999 or 1998 i included the al gore story thinking of the first episode of
00:48:16.680 this show which was largely about al gore and i'm glad no one else caught the al gore easter egg
00:48:22.380 except for you, a highly sophisticated member of the creme de la creme.
00:48:26.800 As for the, what was your actual question?
00:48:31.100 What was the actual question about?
00:48:32.900 It's been a long week, man.
00:48:34.780 Mr. Davies, what was the actual question about?
00:48:38.840 Hello? Is anybody there?
00:48:40.020 I'm glad.
00:48:40.560 I have one listener from the creme de la creme
00:48:42.460 who is paying attention to every episode of my show going back to episode one,
00:48:45.560 and I have my producer falling asleep in the control room.
00:48:48.060 Doesn't know the answer.
00:48:49.380 Can we play that again?
00:48:50.080 I want to get the second part of the question.
00:48:52.380 Michael congratulations
00:48:54.040 on 2,000 episodes. That's incredible.
00:48:57.280 I looked up your first
00:48:58.580 episode and you were talking about Al Gore.
00:49:00.740 This was eight years ago and you're like
00:49:02.520 hey guess what Al Gore wasn't right
00:49:04.600 about anything in like a little while ago
00:49:06.920 you were like hey guys
00:49:08.440 Al Gore still isn't right about anything.
00:49:14.360 That's fine. What was the second part of the question?
00:49:16.840 You have to listen to the whole voice.
00:49:18.180 I don't want to listen to the whole thing. What are you doing?
00:49:20.000 Just tell me the thing that she asked.
00:49:21.640 I don't want to listen to the whole thing.
00:49:22.720 All right, we'll get to the whole question
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