The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 2007 - Couple Climbs The Empire State Building But That's Not The Craziest Part

00:00:00.000 A man and woman were arrested after climbing to the top of the Empire State Building, 1.00

00:00:04.760 waving a banner with some stupid quote about love, 0.97

00:00:07.660 and getting engaged with the man down on one knee at 1,500 feet above the ground. 0.99

00:00:12.460 Much of the commentary is focused on the recklessness, the danger to themselves,

00:00:18.200 to the first responders, to pedestrians on the street below.

00:00:21.240 But not enough commentary has centered around how the couple is extremely good looking,

00:00:27.560 and the stunt was obviously cool. We will examine the morality of wacky public stunts.

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00:00:38.520 just one day after the Supreme Court officially destroyed the last pretense of a coherent

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00:03:09.520 movie in America for our nation's 250th birthday. Biggest story yesterday. I'm traveling all around

00:03:16.480 the country. I was in D.C. I'll get into a little bit more of that in the coming days.

00:03:20.380 Great, great trip to D.C. Obviously, I interviewed the vice president. A lot of those clips are going

00:03:24.640 around the world. But the biggest story is I'm on the airplane yesterday flying back from Idaho

00:03:29.180 was this crazy couple that climbs to the very tippy top of the Empire State Building,

00:03:35.280 the very highest point on the needle. They're at this point, what, 1,700 feet above the ground.

00:03:42.260 They're waving this flag that has a stupid quote on it. 0.99

00:03:45.780 Then they get down to the platform just below the top of the needle. 1.00

00:03:48.900 The guy gets down on one knee and proposes.

00:03:51.240 This is going on for hours.

00:03:53.540 The couple is fine.

00:03:55.580 The first responders are fine.

00:03:56.780 No one on the ground was hurt or killed.

00:03:59.020 And the couple has been arrested.

00:04:01.660 Now, all of the commentary around this is about how reckless this was.

00:04:07.620 How reckless, how dangerous it was.

00:04:09.880 it was reckless and dangerous and criminal. It was all those things. Some of the commentary has

00:04:13.860 focused on the sign, the flag that they were waving. Because the flag, it wasn't an Antifa

00:04:18.540 flag. It wasn't a Palestine flag. It wasn't a communist flag. The flag had this quote.

00:04:25.340 The quote said, when the power of love beats the love of power, the world knows peace.

00:04:34.060 And so a lot of the commentary said, wait, this couple risked their lives to climb to the top

00:04:39.220 and wave around the equivalent of a live, laugh, love sign from TJ Maxx. It wasn't even a sign of

00:04:45.340 political import. These crazy people, these idiots, what a dumb political ideology. And 1.00

00:04:50.620 the thing is, the flag was not the point of what they did. These are not activists. They're not,

00:04:59.000 they don't have a serious political agenda. It was a stunt. The point was climbing to the top

00:05:03.260 of the Empire State Building and then proposing on one knee at the top of the Empire State Building.

00:05:06.700 The sign was a little add on. That was nothing. The quote, a lot of people are reporting this

00:05:11.360 quote is coming from Jimi Hendrix. And I don't know, maybe he said that or something like that.

00:05:15.320 The quote originates with the Victorian era prime minister of the UK, William Gladstone,

00:05:22.500 who started out as a conservative. He ended up becoming one of the most famous liberal prime

00:05:26.640 ministers ever, though he was liberal in the 19th century, more in a kind of classical sense of

00:05:31.240 liberalism. And it wasn't the exact quote, but it was similar to it. But that's all beside the point.

00:05:35.220 the politics has nothing to do with this. These people, these are not your purple-haired,

00:05:42.220 5,000 piercings, tatted up everywhere, Antifa guys. In fact, they're very good-looking.

00:05:49.020 This is a theme of today's show, I guess. It's very good-looking young people.

00:05:51.720 They're actually somewhat famous. This couple, it's Angela Nicolaou and Ivan Birkus.

00:05:59.540 They've done these stunts before. There's actually a Netflix movie about them called

00:06:03.180 Skywalkers, what will they risk to touch the sky? And I guess the Empire State Building is their

00:06:09.480 latest stunt. And they're just good-looking, wacky, adventurous young people. This wasn't

00:06:16.420 activism. So turn that, it's very, everything's activism these days. So we just read everything

00:06:20.780 through an ideological lens. One of the things I like about this stunt is it wasn't activism.

00:06:27.740 It wasn't ideological. It kind of seemed that way almost at first. It's not.

00:06:30.780 it's just reckless young people doing a wacky crazy dangerous criminal stunt

00:06:35.940 and so i grade that totally totally differently this should not be imitated if people imitate

00:06:43.600 this someone's going to die maybe multiple people are going to die it should not be imitated however

00:06:47.260 it is wacky it is fun and they are good looking that actually does kind of matter because this

00:06:56.540 was a spectacle. This was a stunt, and I'm not going to pretend to be angry about it.

00:07:02.260 People do these things from time to time. Remember the guy who walked on the high wire

00:07:06.460 between the Twin Towers? When was that? In the 70s or something, 80s?

00:07:10.620 That was wacky and fun and dangerous and criminal, and he shouldn't have done it. But it's

00:07:14.260 cool. It's obviously cool, and we shouldn't lie about that.

00:07:21.580 It's one of those moments. People will remember it as a wacky, cool, fun thing.

00:07:25.460 And of all the problems that we face, of all the real structural political problems, all of the decay, all of the social alienation, all of the young people checking out from society, some crazy risk takers doing a wacky, even criminal sort of thing, by the relative measure of what's going on in our politics, I'm not going to complain.

00:07:52.160 It was a fun little news story for the day.

00:07:54.580 It was, and it wasn't in-your-face activism, and it was, I'm not, don't do it, don't, not

00:07:59.900 to be tried at home, I'm not going to pretend to be angry.

00:08:03.340 These things happen throughout history, and it's actually delightful for society that

00:08:10.620 people like this exist.

00:08:12.000 It's actually a good thing.

00:08:13.120 I will take a society where every once in a while, these kinds of people do a thing that

00:08:18.320 is criminal and dangerous over a society of alternately checked out alienated people just

00:08:24.420 playing video games 25 hours a day and antifa burning our country down and tearing down statues

00:08:29.360 i'll take i'll take the society of the wacky risk-taking exuberant people any day of the week

00:08:35.800 now that stunt did not make me angry something yesterday made me very very angry as you know i

00:08:43.000 get angry about twice a year. And this really, really made me angry. And the craziest part of

00:08:48.340 the story, the thing that made me angry this year was Malcolm in the Middle. The thing that made me

00:08:53.700 angry this year was a post from Frankie Munez. He was Malcolm in the Middle. He was a child actor,

00:08:59.400 and then he became a race car driver. Here's what he posted.

00:09:03.860 Life update. Following a period of separation that we kept private,

00:09:07.960 Paige and I, I guess Paige is his wife, have decided to move forward with ending our marriage.

00:09:13.000 After 10 beautiful years together, we've grown in ways that made us realize our relationship

00:09:17.180 feels most natural and strong as a deep friendship and as co-parents.

00:09:22.580 That's the line that really, it'd be bad enough if they were just, you know, they got married,

00:09:29.100 didn't have kids, they split up. That would be bad enough. You know, we just feel stronger,

00:09:34.000 feels more natural if we're just friends and co-parents. We share an incredible son who

00:09:38.680 remains the center of our world, and we're both happier. We're both happier. Who's we here?

00:09:46.740 Who's we? We, I think Mr. Munoz is referring to him and his wife. I don't think he's referring

00:09:52.520 to his son. We are both happier, stronger parents because of the love and growth we've shared.

00:10:00.340 I'm endlessly grateful to Paige for everything she's done for me and our family. She put her

00:10:05.220 own dreams on hold so I could chase mine, and she was always my biggest supporter. That foundation

00:10:09.040 of respect and friendship isn't going anywhere. Oh, yeah, it's not. We're excited to keep building

00:10:14.460 Muniz Racing together. I guess that's their company. And to co-parent our boy with the

00:10:21.080 same teamwork and love we've always had. We're closing one chapter with gratitude. We're closing

00:10:25.580 one chapter. That's how we refer to divorce, to violating a contract made to the public and to God,

00:10:31.660 to ripping asunder the entire world of the family and the planet on which children live.

00:10:38.500 We're just closing one chapter with gratitude and opening the next

00:10:41.800 with bright futures ahead for us as individuals, and especially for our son. Especially for our son?

00:10:48.740 You know, we're just, we're closing one chapter. We have bright futures. This is, in other words,

00:10:54.500 this divorce is a really good thing for us as individuals. That is a dubious claim. It's a

00:11:00.380 ridiculous claim in itself, but it's beyond the pale. This public announcement certainly requires 0.91

00:11:07.860 public comment and criticism when someone has the temerity, either the complete obliviousness

00:11:13.640 or the audacity to claim that, you know, divorce is really good for our son.

00:11:20.040 Thank you for the love and support. We both choose not to entertain any questions in this matter.

00:11:23.960 Please respect our family's privacy during this time. Respect our privacy. Here's a long,

00:11:28.960 Here's a long diatribe talking about how great divorce is for parents of a young child.

00:11:35.480 But please respect our privacy.

00:11:37.460 And then the cherry on top of this was the initial post included a video of Munez and his wife dancing with joy.

00:11:48.500 Do we have the video?

00:11:53.660 Yeah, they're dancing.

00:11:55.900 And then there's some text on it.

00:11:58.220 it says, who says you can't stay best friends with your baby mama? Oh my goodness. And then

00:12:03.420 they put the kid in the video. And what's so tragic is it'd be easy to say this Muniz is a

00:12:11.760 really bad guy and he's doing something really awful intentionally and all this. I don't think

00:12:16.800 that's what's going on here. In fact, I think it's the opposite. And when I posted about this

00:12:20.520 yesterday on social media, Frankie Muniz actually responded to me and we'll get to his response,

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00:15:45.100 made. I hate it. I hate it. And I really hate the video. But I don't think he's a bad guy.

00:15:53.240 In fact, look, he's a child star. All these people usually end up addicted to crack or

00:15:56.980 in horrible situations. And it seemed to me like he was one of the people who fared the best.

00:16:02.900 He was a child actor who then became a race car driver. He had a different career. And that's

00:16:07.960 cool. He seemed like a nice guy. Seems like a nice guy. But this is so wrong. This is so,

00:16:12.900 so wrong. This exemplifies everything wrong with the way that we think about marriage. And frankly,

00:16:18.760 everything wrong with the way that we think about personal virtue and vice and sin as a public

00:16:25.120 matter. Divorce is simply bad. I'll go further. It's profoundly evil. It's profoundly evil.

00:16:35.660 Man is a social creature and a coupling creature. So marriage is not just some social construct as

00:16:40.860 a lot of modern ideologues think it is. It's a natural institution. Men and women are actually

00:16:45.640 made for each other. And furthermore, that union is for a lifelong bond ordered toward the

00:16:52.420 procreation and education of children, as well as the mutual good of the spouses. That's what it is

00:16:57.960 for. When you blow that up, you are doing a lot more than just closing down an accounting firm,

00:17:03.720 okay? And it is especially awful and evil for kids. It just is. That's all it is. And

00:17:11.120 what I think Frankie Munez is doing here, I don't think he's an ideologue. I don't think he's an

00:17:14.920 activist. Maybe that's another theme of today's show too. Those guys on the Empire State Building,

00:17:18.980 they're not activists. I don't think Frankie Munez is either. I think that it's a fallen world and

00:17:24.160 we have a culture that is encouraging divorce and very conducive to divorce. And I think,

00:17:29.860 unfortunately, his marriage hit the rocks, and now they intend to divorce. And what they're

00:17:35.480 trying to do is the same thing that virtually every couple that divorces does, which is they're

00:17:40.880 trying to cope, and they're telling themselves lies. And one of the chief lies that couples

00:17:45.080 who divorce tell themselves is, this is actually better. It'll be better, not just for us

00:17:49.720 individually, but for the kid. And it'll be better because the parents will be happier.

00:17:54.320 And if we're happier, then we can be better parents to our kids. And it's just not true.

00:17:58.420 It's just a lie. Divorce is only bad. It's a fallen world. It happens sometimes. There is

00:18:05.880 more that we can do as a political society to discourage divorce. We've had less divorce in

00:18:10.780 the past. We've really opened up divorce in very recent years. New York state only liberalized to

00:18:16.660 a no-fault divorce within the last 15 years or so. Even New York, which is a liberal state.

00:18:20.660 So it's a recent phenomenon that we've been encouraging divorce like this. But no matter

00:18:24.320 if you had the perfect political regime. In a fallen world, some people will get divorced.

00:18:29.220 That's a fact. That's what it means to live in a world pervaded by sin and death. However,

00:18:35.480 please don't make me lie about it. Please don't lie to yourselves about it.

00:18:42.080 For the love of God, do not make me celebrate it. That's what I think people found so,

00:18:46.780 so offensive about this post. It's why it went so viral. It's why Frankie Munez responded to me.

00:18:51.600 because what he said was, I don't have the exact text here. I saw it on the airplane as I was

00:18:55.580 coming down last night. He said, we're not celebrating it. This is a really bad thing.

00:18:59.380 It's a horrific thing, but we're just trying to do what's best for the kid and not be acrimonious

00:19:03.660 all the time. And yeah, yeah. But you can't have your relationship remain just as strong or maybe

00:19:12.240 even better when you divorce your wife or your husband. By definition, your relationship gets

00:19:19.120 worse, gets much worse. And your kid feels that. And it is deeply scandalous. It's one of the most

00:19:26.560 scandalous things you can do to a kid. And it happens. I'm not saying you need to go jump off

00:19:30.480 a bridge or climb to the top of the Empire State Building and jump off, God forbid. I'm just saying

00:19:33.800 you need to accept that. You need to look that in the face. If you're going to divorce your wife

00:19:40.340 or your wife is going to divorce you, you need to stare it right in the face and say,

00:19:43.940 this is a bad thing. This is bad for us personally. I've seen couples say,

00:19:48.720 our lives are going to be so much better when we get divorced. It doesn't happen.

00:19:53.240 Especially when you have a kid, there's really no such thing as divorce.

00:19:56.320 You just go from having a bad marriage to a worse marriage because you're still dealing

00:19:59.480 with the person all the time. You're dealing with them financially. You're dealing with

00:20:02.860 them socially. You got to go pick up the kids sometimes. Holidays become very difficult.

00:20:08.820 So just if you're going to do it, look the reality in the face and say, I'm going to do

00:20:14.720 something that is very likely going to be bad for me personally. It's definitely going to be bad

00:20:19.640 for my kid. It's scandalous to society. It drastically increases the likelihood that my

00:20:24.540 kid will get divorced. And if you're going to do it, there are going to be people who just

00:20:29.060 do it anyway. And for whatever reason, marriage can be hard. Life in a fallen world can be very

00:20:35.160 hard. I'm not denying any of that. But be honest about what you're doing. And if you are honest

00:20:42.900 about what you're doing, it might give you a little bit of pause before you actually go through

00:20:48.140 with it. I know plenty of people, friends and family who've gotten divorced, and they think

00:20:54.280 it's going to be sunshine and roses, or they at the very least think it's going to be an improvement

00:20:58.260 over their lives in a state of a difficult marriage. It's not. So know what you're doing

00:21:05.220 going in. Maybe take that very seriously. And for heaven's sake, do not make us celebrate it.

00:21:12.260 This to me, this is one of the problems with the liberal morality.

00:21:15.880 Think about it even.

00:21:16.540 We just ended Pride Month.

00:21:17.880 Now we're in Fourth of July month.

00:21:19.180 But we'll get to the consequences of Pride Month with Senator Scott Weiner, the truest

00:21:25.460 deviant in all of American politics, who has just succeeded at protecting even more sexual 0.71

00:21:31.300 predators. 1.00

00:21:31.920 Another legislative win.

00:21:33.500 But this is the problem with the liberal morality.

00:21:36.200 Most people, even very religious people, very conservative people, if you say to them, hey,

00:21:43.280 it's a fallen world. Some people are kind of sexually a little bit aberrant, a little deviant, 0.61

00:21:46.780 a little different, and they're going to kind of do their thing in the corner of society.

00:21:50.880 And we're all going to kind of look the other way, right? We're not going to make a big deal about

00:21:54.420 it. Most religious and conservative people would say, yeah, right. We're not sending the

00:21:58.200 Sharia purity police to people's doors. Yeah, of course. But that's not what the activists make us 1.00

00:22:03.560 do. That's not what the people who insist on this liberal conception of morality make us do. It's

00:22:08.120 never enough. They lie and they pretend that it's all about just leave us alone. Just let us do our

00:22:13.060 thing. Stop caring about what, stop being so nosy. Get out of my bedroom. But that's not what they

00:22:18.520 want. They demand that you celebrate it. That's what Pride Month is. The LGBT activists can tell

00:22:26.180 you day after day, oh no, we just want to be left alone. We just leave us alone. Also, we need a

00:22:31.980 permit so that we can wear leather and parade ourselves through Main Street. Also, we need to

00:22:36.440 change curricula in the public schools to promote LGBT ideology. Actually, we need to redefine 1.00

00:22:42.120 marriage at the level of the Supreme Court. Actually, actually, actually. Actually, you need

00:22:47.300 to punish Christian baseball players because they don't want to wear the pride flag, and if they wear 0.97

00:22:53.240 the pride flag on their hat, they might cite a Bible verse, and you need to punish them for it.

00:22:57.180 it's never leave us alone. They always go too far. And they want to pretend that we're the 0.92

00:23:03.740 unreasonable ones. The conservatives and the religious people, I think, are much, much more

00:23:09.680 willing than the left to recognize it's a fallen world. Things go wrong. Things are a little weird

00:23:13.900 sometimes. We're all going to try to deal with it together. It is the left that comes in and says,

00:23:19.720 you're going to celebrate it. It's like the old Seinfeld bit. You're going to wear the pin.

00:23:24.700 You're going to wear the ribbon.

00:23:25.920 You're going to put on the pride flag. 0.99

00:23:28.080 You're going to celebrate. 0.95

00:23:28.880 We're going to dance for, you're going to get up and dance for how great divorce is. 0.92

00:23:32.840 Four kids. 1.00

00:23:34.580 Not going to do it.

00:23:35.700 Sorry.

00:23:36.960 And the recognition that that little bit of scandal, that in the little things, the rot begins,

00:23:41.080 the recognition that that necessarily leads down that slipperiest of slopes all the way down to a decadent and decayed society.

00:23:49.400 That is why we take these issues so seriously.

00:23:51.700 That is why that post from Frankie Muniz went viral yesterday.

00:23:54.320 I feel bad for him because in lying to himself and to the public, he's now only compounded his grief.

00:24:01.920 It doesn't have to be that way.

00:24:03.160 Okay, speaking of sexual immorality, Scott Wiener.

00:24:07.060 Scott Wiener, no man est omen.

00:24:09.380 Wiener, he's running for Nancy Pelosi's congressional seat.

00:24:13.080 He's the front runner.

00:24:14.100 He just got chased out of the trans march because he's apparently not radical enough.

00:24:17.860 Scott Wiener just won yet another victory for sexual offenders in California.

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00:25:43.540 rest easy, they are still allowed to run for public office. If you're a chomo in the state 1.00

00:25:50.920 of California, if you're a child molester, if you're a rapist, if you're some other kind of 1.00

00:25:56.200 sexual offender, don't worry. You too can still be in Congress thanks to Scott Wiener. 0.99

00:26:02.620 Scott Wiener was on the panel of state senators that was considering a proposal that would have

00:26:09.840 prohibited child molesters and rapists and other sexual predators from running for public office.

00:26:16.360 And Wiener, along with some of his Democrat colleagues, killed the proposal.

00:26:21.840 Here is Scott Wiener explaining.

00:26:24.800 This is potentially a very dangerous road we're going down to say that minor crimes

00:26:31.500 are going to ban you for life for running for office. We live in a democracy where people get

00:26:37.980 to run for office, including people who have a lot of flaws. Minor crimes is the most unfortunate

00:26:46.140 euphemism I think I've ever heard for this subject. Minor crimes. Emphasis on the word minor.

00:26:54.600 The way he explains this, he tries to make it seem as normal as possible. Well, you know,

00:26:58.900 I mean, it's like totally, I mean, can you even imagine? I mean, people are saying just because

00:27:03.380 you're like a child molester or a rapist, you can't even become the mayor of San Diego. I mean, 0.98

00:27:09.220 it's just totally, come on. I mean, people make mistakes. Seriously? Is that what we're doing now?

00:27:17.500 Yeah, of course that's what we're doing. Of course, this guy's chief political achievement.

00:27:22.560 I'm not being hyperbolic. I'm not. His chief political achievement as state senator was

00:27:28.480 reducing punishments for grown men who rape underage boys. Look it up. I mean, you believe

00:27:36.740 me, I think, I suspect, in the audience. But some people say, that can't be true. No, that's not.

00:27:41.080 Even on the left, they'll say, no, no, you're exaggerating. I'm not exaggerating. That's his

00:27:44.060 actual chief political achievement, is reducing punishments for grown men who rape underage boys.

00:27:49.440 So yeah, of course, he thinks that registered sex offenders should be able to run for public

00:27:54.900 office. What's so crazy about this, the craziest part is using the euphemism minor crimes. Oh my

00:28:02.320 goodness. But the craziest part other than that is that it's not just him. You say, look, okay,

00:28:10.720 Scott Wiener tries to promote sexual predators. Yeah. Breaking news, sun shines. Breaking news, 0.85

00:28:18.100 fish are swimming. Yeah. That's what he does. That's his nature, I guess. That's his political

00:28:23.320 nature. But what about San Diego State Senator Sabrina Cervantes? What about Republican? Sorry,

00:28:32.740 sorry, that's not fair. State Senator Sabrina Cervantes and Republican State Senator Stephen

00:28:37.380 Choi, they're the ones who voted to prohibit the sexual predators. It's Democrat State Senator

00:28:44.980 Scott Weiner, Democrat State Senator Tom Umberg, and Democrat State Senator Ben Allen. They're

00:28:53.040 the ones who all voted to protect the CHOMOs. I don't know that much about Tom Umberg or Ben

00:29:00.440 Allen. They're clearly not quite as flamboyant as Mr. Weiner, but they voted the same way he did.

00:29:07.520 And it held. So now the CHOMOs can keep running. In other words, the majority of this panel

00:29:13.180 of state legislators in California voted to protect the sexual predators.

00:29:18.680 and it that recognition that it's it'd be one thing if it were just this guy you say yeah well 0.98

00:29:24.820 he's a complete freak and pervert so i'm not surprised but this is now the mainstream view 0.98

00:29:30.320 of the democrat party the mainstream view of california democrats is to elect child molesters 0.98

00:29:35.880 to congress and to mayoral offices and governor potentially that's the mainstream it's not a

00:29:42.480 fringe view it's not just something that exists on blue sky or something that is what democrats

00:29:48.260 have elected people and the duly elected representatives of California say, we want

00:29:52.140 to elect child molesters to public office. It's the same kind of radicalization that occurred

00:29:58.920 within me and within many of us after Charlie was assassinated. After Charlie was assassinated,

00:30:06.160 that was a great national trauma for all sorts of reasons, not the least of which is that Charlie

00:30:12.480 in his public life was the gracious, the charitable interlocutor trying to talk it out with the libs.

00:30:19.680 He was so mainstream. He was so centrist and they still killed him. I mean, that was a big part of

00:30:24.320 it. But the other part that was so radicalizing is it was all those people afterward who celebrated

00:30:30.700 it. It's not shocking that Tyler Robinson, trans furry lover, murdered a prominent conservative

00:30:37.660 allegedly while he was talking about transgenderism. That's sad. It's horrible, 0.76

00:30:43.200 scary. That's not surprising. What was surprising and radicalizing is that the lady who sits next

00:30:48.360 to you at work defended it. And the waiter and the nurse and the teacher and the elected Democrats

00:30:55.240 and the Democrats on cable news, and that they were justifying this. They were minimizing this.

00:31:01.100 They were celebrating this in some cases after the fact. That's what made it such a political

00:31:06.620 trauma. As you say, oh, a huge, it's not the majority, but a huge swath of the mainstream

00:31:13.840 of the Democrat party wants to murder the most moderate and gracious of Republicans.

00:31:22.940 That's the radicalizing thing. And probably your grandma still thinks that, you know,

00:31:29.560 Democrats and Republicans, we just disagree on a few things. But, you know, at the end of the day,

00:31:33.620 we all want what's best for the country. We want to live in a good civil polity.

00:31:37.620 No, no, that might've been true 20 years ago. That isn't true. Now the Democrat,

00:31:43.040 the Democrat party now in the mainstream wants to elect child molesters to public office 0.54

00:31:50.580 and substantially wants to murder the nicest Republican, you know,

00:31:56.240 and i don't if i'm being hyperbolic please prove me wrong please show me the because i've read the

00:32:05.040 numbers i've seen the statistics i've heard the quotes i've looked at the votes i don't i don't

00:32:11.660 think i'm being unfair in any way and that's a very radicalizing fact okay speaking of radicalizing

00:32:17.940 events uh columbus ohio is really excited for independence day we all are right we're getting

00:32:24.400 are bunting out, looking forward to hot dogs and fireworks, and oh, wait, hold on, wait, hold the

00:32:29.160 fort. They're not celebrating that Independence Day. They're not celebrating 1776. Columbus,

00:32:35.580 Ohio is really, really excited to celebrate Somali Independence Day. Columbus Parks and Rec,

00:32:42.200 as we celebrate the unification of the trust territory of Somaliland and the state of Somaliland

00:32:46.820 into the Somali Republic in 1960, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And they got big picture there

00:32:51.600 of a Somali star celebrating Somali independence. First of all, I guess the funniest thing about

00:33:01.100 this post is that Somalia is not a real country. Somalia has undergone radical political

00:33:08.340 transformation many times over the last century, and it is a failed state of pirates.

00:33:15.260 and indeed even the liberals if they were in in some moments of candor would have to admit this

00:33:22.100 that's one of their arguments for taking all the somalis into america on the one hand they say we 0.99

00:33:27.480 have to take the somalis into america because it's a failed state and it's an shit whole country and 0.99

00:33:32.020 it's terrible it's not even a real nation but then out of the other side of their mouths they say and 0.99

00:33:37.460 we're so excited to celebrate somali independence day what a great country that is

00:33:41.740 and why are they doing that because the somalis that we took in because on the grounds that somalia

00:33:48.000 is not a real country those somalis have greater political allegiance to a country in africa than

00:33:52.700 they do to our own country and that is just a fact of rapid immigration it's not even particular

00:33:59.540 to somalis or africans or it's not like a racial or ethnic thing even necessarily 0.83

00:34:05.700 that's just how immigration works that's why the great writers in antiquity through the middle

00:34:11.000 ages up to the modern era have observed that you have to be very, very careful when you're taking 0.99

00:34:15.340 immigrants in because they can radically destabilize a country. And it's just a fact 1.00

00:34:18.960 that though we have a lot of ideological pretensions in America, and we think that

00:34:24.460 America is just an idea, or we think America is a creed, or America is just passing a civics test,

00:34:31.200 and then you're as American as anybody, you can't replace a people with a different people

00:34:37.600 and have the country remain the same country.

00:34:41.480 Now, you're not allowed to talk about replacement migration

00:34:43.620 unless you're celebrating it.

00:34:45.040 The United Nations has documents

00:34:46.460 talking about replacement migration.

00:34:48.080 The left has published famous political science papers

00:34:50.380 and even run campaigns

00:34:51.580 about the glories of replacement migration.

00:34:53.880 And when you celebrate it, that's okay.

00:34:55.500 When you say it's happening

00:34:56.600 and it might be a bad thing,

00:34:57.720 of course, that's a neo-Nazi,

00:34:59.080 evil, radical conspiracy theory.

00:35:00.640 But it is happening, obviously.

00:35:02.660 It's the Democrats' preferred strategy.

00:35:05.640 And it's been going on for 60 years now.

00:35:07.600 And there have been, there were antecedents even before that.

00:35:11.560 But let's just take it.

00:35:13.740 What the Democrats have done is not to fully replace the country, but to just radically change the demographics of the country.

00:35:20.400 And so you're seeing the consequences of it.

00:35:21.920 But let's just take that idea to its logical conclusion.

00:35:25.840 The logical conclusion of the Democrats' immigration regime, the logical conclusion of the idea that America is merely propositional or creedal. 0.57

00:35:32.080 let's just say in an imaginary world that you had a country and you took all the people of 0.68

00:35:40.340 the country out and you put totally different people in. You still had the same physical

00:35:45.980 constitution. You still had the same geography. You still had the same buildings. You still had

00:35:51.220 the same roads and streets, at least for some period of time. The question you have to ask

00:35:54.760 yourself is, would that still be the same country? It seems like I'm setting you up. It seems like

00:36:00.620 it's a stupid question, but I think if you really pressed a lot of people on that, 0.98

00:36:05.040 especially the ones who insist upon the creedal, propositional character of America, 1.00

00:36:09.200 they would say, well, yes, it would be. So long as they assimilate. Assimilate to what? 0.55

00:36:14.760 You just took out all the original people. Let's say you just totally replaced the people. 0.94

00:36:19.160 Would that be the same country? I think a lot of them would say yes,

00:36:23.320 but it obviously would not be because a nation is the people.

00:36:27.780 and the people are informed by ideas and they're shaped by geography and they're shaped by

00:36:33.220 buildings and all that but the nation is is the people that's what the nation is and so one of 0.93

00:36:39.840 the real problems with the somalis is they don't really love our country the somalis have a 1.00

00:36:44.660 particularly sticky and foreign cultural identity and they are a particularly criminal people like 1.00

00:36:51.960 it is a pirate country and they they have just perpetrated one of the greatest frauds on the 0.94

00:36:56.300 American government ever, as we're seeing in multiple states, not just Minnesota. 0.73

00:37:00.240 But it's not, I don't even really just mean to pick on the Somalis. 0.95

00:37:03.880 One of the problems is a lot of these modern migrants from really radical, I'm not even 0.98

00:37:09.760 talking about Latin America, I'm talking about like really radical cultures. 1.00

00:37:12.580 They don't love America. 0.96

00:37:14.240 They don't have much in common with America. 0.50

00:37:16.160 They want to replace American institutions with their own. 0.96

00:37:18.880 but even the crazy part is even if the immigrants did love their countries sorry even if the

00:37:27.380 immigrants did love the country that they're coming to really love the united states really

00:37:31.000 want to be part of it and there are plenty of immigrants like that even if that were the case 0.99

00:37:34.540 too much immigration would still be a major problem even if they really wanted to assimilate 0.92

00:37:41.820 right away you can't you can't do it it takes time saint thomas aquinas points out it takes

00:37:47.440 generations to assimilate. And he's not the first one. He's taking his lead from ancient Greek

00:37:52.000 political philosophers. It takes time. Think about it this way. You, an American, I'll use

00:37:58.180 myself as an example. I love the United Kingdom. I'm super Anglophile. I was just in the UK for the

00:38:04.180 Oxford Union debate, not that few weeks ago. I love the UK or Italy. I love Italy. My family

00:38:09.800 comes from the UK and comes from Italy. I speak Italian. I studied Italian literature in college.

00:38:15.280 I've spent a decent amount of time in Italy.

00:38:19.120 If I moved to the UK tomorrow or to Italy tomorrow,

00:38:23.740 I would not be able to really be a Brit or an Italian. 0.99

00:38:30.480 I would not be able to preserve their culture and traditions. 0.99

00:38:33.780 I would still be a foreigner. 1.00

00:38:34.980 Even though I descend from their stock, I speak their languages,

00:38:39.780 I love their culture, I would want to assimilate. 0.90

00:38:42.800 And I still wouldn't be able to do it.

00:38:44.980 because it takes time. Assimilation is not purely an intellectual matter.

00:38:50.820 It's got to be in your bones. It's got to go through generations. The 4th of July is not

00:38:55.580 just about reciting a few lines from the Declaration of Independence. It's about

00:38:59.320 hot dogs and fireworks and maybe going to the beach or going to a lake. It's about the games

00:39:06.880 that you play with your kids. It's about playing cornhole, whatever it is. It's these things that

00:39:11.440 have to be learned over time. Mass migration in the best of circumstances would be massively 0.52

00:39:17.960 dangerous to the United States. And we happen to be in the worst of circumstances, especially now 1.00

00:39:22.700 since the Supreme Court blew up one of the last major potential limitations on immigration.

00:39:28.600 Okay. Now, what does that mean for our political order? It means there's a new political party

00:39:32.800 coming up. Tucker Carlson is founding a new party. 250 years ago, 56 men pledged their lives,

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00:40:20.460 250th america my favorite comment yesterday is from toby breedlove who says i'm not sure what

00:40:26.680 this gnome mushroom thing means you know this these people taking mushrooms they see little

00:40:31.260 little gnomes everywhere. I'm not sure what this gnome mushroom thing means, but it'd definitely

00:40:37.320 be a portent of something. As Michael is fond of saying, gnomon est omen. Do you get it? It's a

00:40:48.680 pun and I'm a sucker for it. Gnomon, the gnomes are an omen. Okay, that's enough. That's enough

00:40:55.580 of that. Tucker is founding a new political party. In commentary to the Columbia Journalism

00:41:01.960 Review, Tucker says, I'm going to help build a third party. There should be a good faith effort

00:41:07.460 to figure out what benefits the country. He says, I mean, if you make $60,000 a year, you're

00:41:13.120 degraded. Your life expectancy has gone down and the promise of your children's lives is likely

00:41:17.540 gone. No one seems to care. It's not even a factor. What about Hamas? I officially don't

00:41:23.080 care about Hamas. The U.S. government should have as its first priority the welfare of its own 0.85

00:41:27.780 people. So it's interesting. Right in those comments there, you get this idea, I want to

00:41:32.300 build a third party. Plenty of third parties have cropped up in the U.S. None of them have worked,

00:41:35.820 but they've cropped up in the U.S. in recent decades, on the left, on the right. Okay,

00:41:40.700 I want to build a third party. Sure. We need a good faith effort to figure out what benefits

00:41:45.120 our country. We need to care for people who aren't making $300,000 a year. The forgotten

00:41:52.580 men and women of America, the lower middle class, working class, we need to care about them.

00:41:57.660 That's totally right. I agree. This comes up on the left and on the right in third-party

00:42:02.800 suggestions. Well, what is going to differentiate this? I mean, what's the secret sauce here?

00:42:09.140 And Tucker kind of gets to it. He says, what about Hamas? I officially don't care about Hamas. So

00:42:13.100 right there you get, okay, it's a party that is going to be defined, at least in part,

00:42:17.720 by a hostility to America's relationship

00:42:20.760 with the state of Israel,

00:42:22.280 which given Tucker's recent commentary

00:42:24.140 is not totally surprising.

00:42:26.000 Then he goes on, he says,

00:42:27.320 how could I or any American voter

00:42:29.340 support a political party

00:42:30.540 that's not loyal to the United States?

00:42:32.880 So here, Tucker was a Republican.

00:42:34.680 The accusation is that the Republican Party

00:42:36.260 is not loyal to the United States.

00:42:38.180 And I don't think it takes a PhD in poli-sci to observe.

00:42:42.440 He's saying the reason the Republicans

00:42:44.540 are not loyal to the United States

00:42:45.680 is because they're loyal to the state of Israel, which is the foreign state that Tucker's founding

00:42:51.740 this new party in opposition to. That puts the interests of a foreign country above those of

00:42:56.880 its citizens. There you go. It's not possible to vote for people like that, and I'm not going to. 0.99

00:43:01.520 Okay. So for the kids in the audience, this might seem like a new idea. Even for some of the older

00:43:09.860 people in the audience, this might seem like a kind of a new idea. There is major dissatisfaction

00:43:14.040 with both political parties, as there have been in recent decades even. And so maybe there's an

00:43:20.180 opportunity for a third party. But the American system is not a parliamentary system like in the

00:43:24.520 UK or in Europe. And third parties don't really succeed that well here. But hey, maybe there's a

00:43:28.980 chance. And so this is something new. That's what I think a lot of people are going to look at this

00:43:33.440 and say, wow, Tucker is really starting something new here. But if you were around in the 90s,

00:43:41.700 especially up to the year 2000, you will recognize there is nothing new about this at all.

00:43:48.160 This is the Reform Party. The Reform Party, not to be pedantic for those of you who live through

00:43:54.300 it and remember it, but for those who don't, the Reform Party was founded in 1995 by Ross Perot.

00:44:00.740 Ross Perot, who was the spoiler candidate to take the election away from George H.W. Bush in 1992.

00:44:09.020 So Ross Perot runs as a spoiler.

00:44:11.700 Bush violated his promises on not raising taxes.

00:44:14.520 And he seemed kind of just like a more establishment business Republican.

00:44:17.940 So Ross Perot takes a little bit of that cultural energy, goes down.

00:44:21.280 But then the Reform Party really starts to hit its stride in the public imagination

00:44:24.680 because of Pat Buchanan.

00:44:26.880 Pat Buchanan, who ran for the Republican nomination against George H.W. Bush in 1992.

00:44:31.820 They spoke at the convention.

00:44:34.140 Bush, I write about this in my book, Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds,

00:44:36.880 which is available wherever fine books are sold.

00:44:39.040 They weren't ready for the bell.

00:44:40.420 They weren't, yeah, you didn't expect it.

00:44:42.200 I haven't done it in a while.

00:44:43.580 George H.W. writes about how now that the Cold War's over,

00:44:46.240 we need to win the peace

00:44:47.260 and we need to win the economic war.

00:44:48.480 And it was just about basically neoliberal globalism 0.63

00:44:52.360 for America as the hegemon to regulate trade.

00:44:55.680 So we don't really fight so much anymore.

00:44:57.440 And it's all about economic issues.

00:44:59.660 Pat Buchanan, on the other hand,

00:45:00.960 gives this great, great speech,

00:45:02.560 one of the great convention speeches ever,

00:45:05.240 which is the culture war speech 1.00

00:45:06.440 in which he says, this country is going down the tubes because of the LGBT movement rising up and 0.70

00:45:12.000 threats to marriage and the family and all. So he's given the real cultural speech. But Buchanan 0.66

00:45:17.360 loses to Bush. Buchanan then runs again in 96. And then 2000 was really kind of the apotheosis

00:45:26.180 of the Reform Party. And the platform of Buchanan 2000 was America first, non-intervention overseas,

00:45:35.340 skepticism of the american relationship with israel was definitely part of pat buchanan's

00:45:40.700 political platform a retrenchment and focus on the forgotten men and women of america a great

00:45:46.260 skepticism of neoliberalism and some of the uh economic agenda of the of the republican party

00:45:51.300 over the last 30 years it's just it it was advanced by a very popular pundit named pat

00:45:58.460 buchanan a very very popular right-wing pundit who then left the gop the parallels are just perfect

00:46:04.660 And so when Tucker says he's founding this new political party, this is not just Tucker

00:46:10.660 kind of going crazy or being capricious or something like that. He's doing something

00:46:15.880 that already happened. Tucker's a pretty clever political operator, as you may have noticed.

00:46:21.520 And so it's not like he's just shooting from the hip here. He sees that there is a part of politics

00:46:28.540 that has not been totally represented, and he wants to pull that up again and just basically

00:46:34.280 do the Pat Buchanan roadmap. As a pundit, Tucker has become, has really filled in more of the Pat

00:46:40.240 Buchanan lane. And they're not perfect analogs for each other, but he's filled in more of that lane.

00:46:44.940 And now he might do that in politics by founding this party, whether or not Tucker actually runs

00:46:49.560 for president himself. It's almost to a T. I mean, really this new political party is just,

00:46:56.680 it's a party like it's 1999. We're going to have a party like it's 1999. And so I know there are a

00:47:02.100 lot of Republicans who are really, really worried about this. And they're going to say, Tucker's

00:47:05.660 going to split the vote. And I just don't think that's going to happen. Because this exact thing

00:47:11.720 happened before, 25, 26 years ago. They tried it, or really 30 years ago, I guess, because of

00:47:18.820 Perot's version of it. And they got like five votes. It didn't work. Perot might have hit

00:47:25.460 around 1% of the vote. Buchanan didn't crack 1%, didn't come anywhere close, didn't win an

00:47:30.580 electoral vote, it doesn't matter. It's not that there's no appetite for this kind of thing. It's

00:47:37.400 not that the GOP and the Democrats are perfect, obviously far from it, but we've heard this song

00:47:43.140 before. Now, I guess what Tucker might be betting on is that 2026 is different than 2000. What he

00:47:49.040 might be betting on is the political conditions are now such that this is a time, the Buchanan

00:47:54.440 Reform Party was an idea whose time had not yet come, but now the time has come. I just remain

00:47:59.940 very skeptical of that. I am not one of these people who is constantly complaining about the

00:48:03.880 Republican Party, though many Republicans are like that. I don't want a third party. I don't

00:48:08.320 inveigh against our two-party system. I think the two-party system is actually pretty efficient.

00:48:12.180 I think the two-party system actually pretty adequately represents the divergent political

00:48:16.840 views and provides the best opportunity for most of people's concerns to come to the fore.

00:48:24.000 I know we all hate the two-party system. It's the worst kind of party system in the world,

00:48:27.560 except for all of the other ones.

00:48:29.000 But I just don't see this as really doing very much.

00:48:33.020 You know, Kanye tried to start a party.

00:48:35.220 Was it the birthday party?

00:48:36.600 And then Elon tried to start a party, the America party.

00:48:39.560 I don't know.

00:48:40.100 I mean, Tucker is such a clever political guy.

00:48:43.000 I don't even know that he seriously intends

00:48:44.840 for this to be a major political party

00:48:47.080 or even to have a presidential candidate.

00:48:49.080 This might be like three or four DHS.

00:48:51.640 I just, I don't know.

00:48:52.460 I don't have a read on his intentions

00:48:54.180 and I'm not going to psychobabble about him.

00:48:55.660 But just from the raw mechanics of it, no, I don't.

00:48:59.760 Some things have changed since the year 2000, but not enough.

00:49:02.980 And the trajectory of America has not changed enough.

00:49:05.400 I don't really see this happening.

00:49:07.000 So if you're a Republican worried about the demise of the GOP

00:49:10.340 because of this third party,

00:49:11.400 I just think all of history attests

00:49:13.900 that this is not really a threat to you.

00:49:15.980 Okay, there's so much more I want to get.

00:49:17.380 Oh, you know what I got here?

00:49:18.360 I'm sorry.

00:49:19.880 No, maybe this is like the perfect tease.

00:49:21.660 This is like the perfect tease.

00:49:22.880 This is like literally a tease, I guess. 0.96

00:49:25.660 a goth baddie has just won the colorado congressional primary i'm only using that 0.92

00:49:31.720 phrase because mr davies insisted upon it and then his prediction came true but this woman 1.00

00:49:37.400 kelly dennison she just won it and she's a 27 year old massage therapist she could be

00:49:42.840 one of the youngest people in congress and uh she's probably not going to win because it's a 0.95

00:49:48.620 major democrat district but her candidacy is very very interesting because the question on at least 0.98

00:49:53.980 Mr. Davies' mind is, when did the goth baddies become conservative? My answer is, maybe kind of 0.99

00:49:58.100 always. Anyway, we'll have to get to it tomorrow, because today is D-Hee-Hee Thursday. Finally,

00:50:03.300 finally. Oh, it was driving me nuts, man, that you were skipping my D-Hee-Hees. It's D-Hee-Hee

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The Michael Knowles Show - July 02, 2026

Ep. 2007 - Couple Climbs The Empire State Building But That's Not The Craziest Part

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