The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 2012 - Why Is Gen-Z More Politically Extreme Than EVER？

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00:01:00.000 Gen Z is officially the most ideologically extreme generation that we have seen in almost 0.99

00:01:06.880 100 years. Sometimes they're chopping off their body parts and they're trans. Sometimes they're 1.00

00:01:13.120 Nazis. The most extreme among them are Nazis chopping their body parts off. But the numbers

00:01:18.500 are extremely extreme. And no one seems to really appreciate why. There are a lot of theories about

00:01:26.660 it. Some say it's affordability. It's because of the material conditions of their, maybe a little

00:01:31.100 bit of that. Some say, oh, it's the darn TikTok or it's a little bit more of that. We'll get to

00:01:35.040 what is actually doing it. And then we will get to the medium, the artistic medium of our political

00:01:41.320 moment, which we haven't covered before yet on this show. And that is the edit. We will get to

00:01:47.260 the art of the edit. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:56.660 welcome back to the show it's wonderful to be with you i'm not really with you by the way i'm

00:02:15.000 only i'm kind of secretly virtually kind of almost with you because i like many of you am on a nice

00:02:20.860 fourth of july vacation i don't do it i'm not i'm not a huge vacation guy but i'm not gonna look i'll

00:02:25.880 be back on Monday in the studio, but I couldn't leave you all the way. And actually, this really

00:02:30.840 pertains to what we're talking about on the show today, which is what radicalized Gen Z and maybe

00:02:36.560 what we can do about it, and we'll get into the political edit. But I'll be back. We'll be here

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00:04:13.240 of free access. The extremism of Gen Z, I think that is totally without any kind of debate, 0.91

00:04:21.320 right i think everybody basically agrees with that you got a massive rise in the lgbtq ideology 0.90

00:04:26.900 nbc reported a couple years ago that 30 percent of zoomers identify as lgbtq lmnop qrstv but that

00:04:34.300 that's a very uh very much in flux because it's all fake but but that number has come down a

00:04:42.080 little bit nevertheless you see a lot of sexual radicalism and you see a lot of radicalism even

00:04:46.620 on the right. The Zoomers are much more likely to be Nazis than previous generations. And this 0.97

00:04:53.360 is not just ANIC data. You can see it come up in different reports. Here's one study.

00:05:00.040 14.5% of Gen Z respondents in a 2024 national survey describe themselves as ideologically

00:05:06.200 extreme. This is compared to 2.7% of millennials. So the Zoomers are many multiples more likely to

00:05:16.160 call their ideology extreme than the millennials. And the millennials were pretty annoying too. 0.97

00:05:20.960 You know, having, as a millennial myself, having lived through the rise of millennials, 0.52

00:05:24.380 the political coming of age of millennials, that was really the Obama generation.

00:05:27.960 And they were much more ideological than Gen X, the generation that comes immediately before us.

00:05:33.000 Gen X is not ideological at all. That's the grunge generation checked out. They didn't,

00:05:38.460 they just kind of keep to themselves, do their own thing. No one talks about them.

00:05:41.340 The boomers obviously were much more ideological, but the zoomers really put all of them to shame. 1.00

00:05:46.160 And then there are real practical effects to this. 1.00

00:05:48.500 It's not just like edgy commentary.

00:05:50.620 According to Harvard Youth Poll, a relatively recent one shows that 39% say that political violence is acceptable under at least one circumstance.

00:06:00.580 28% when government violates rights.

00:06:02.360 12% for fraudulent elections.

00:06:03.940 11% when someone persists and promotes extremist beliefs.

00:06:08.100 That 11% is really just the young libs justifying killing ordinary conservatives because they're promoting extremist beliefs.

00:06:16.160 10% of them show high acceptance of political violence.

00:06:20.480 Obviously, we don't need survey data to show that this happened because we saw it all happen after the killing of Charlie Kirk.

00:06:29.200 One more, I won't belabor the point on the numbers too much, but just one more pretty damning statistic. 0.91

00:06:35.900 Nearly half of Zoomers find it acceptable to forcibly occupy public buildings or kill or physically harm elected officials. 0.95

00:06:44.900 nearly half. That's compared to just 20% of millennials. So it has skyrocketed since the

00:06:50.340 millennials in just one generation. So what's doing it? I think on the left, what they're

00:06:54.400 going to tell you is the reason this is happening is because material conditions have declined. It

00:06:58.880 was easier for our grandparents or our great grandparents to buy homes than it was for young 1.00

00:07:03.100 people to buy homes, which is true. You have to grade it on a curve a little bit because homes 0.96

00:07:07.560 now are just much bigger and nicer, but that doesn't matter. That's soft consolation to a

00:07:11.340 consumer in his 20s who can't afford to buy a house. You say, well, fine, I'll buy a cheaper

00:07:14.880 house, but there aren't any cheaper houses to buy. You add on top of that, that you have Haitians 1.00

00:07:20.860 who are here with temporary protected status. They were supposed to leave the country in the

00:07:25.120 middle of 2011, I guess it was. They came here in 2010. They were supposed to leave in the middle

00:07:30.960 of 2011. They're still here today. President Trump is trying to remove them. The Supreme

00:07:34.940 Court finally said that, I guess, sort of maybe they can. Those Haitians here temporarily are 1.00

00:07:40.880 more likely to own homes than Zoomers in their 20s. So I get it. There's material problems that 1.00

00:07:46.600 especially hit Zoomers, hits everybody, but especially hit Zoomers. The country has decayed.

00:07:52.560 There's less trust in the institutions. The institutions lie to us. I think a lot of Zoomers

00:07:56.860 got radicalized during COVID when their schooling was taken away from them, when their proms were

00:08:00.380 taken away from them, when college was taken away from them in some cases. So there's that,

00:08:05.120 but that's not the main driver. It's not the main driver. Some people want to blame social media

00:08:11.080 That's, I think, closer to it.

00:08:13.180 But it's not even just social media.

00:08:15.500 It's the internet and the way that we live.

00:08:18.780 And the obvious expert on this that we have to go back to is the very famous,

00:08:23.380 now somewhat forgotten, theorist of communication, Marshall McLuhan.

00:08:27.440 Marshall McLuhan has this famous maxim, the medium is the message.

00:08:33.320 This has now become a cliche, but it's a keen observation.

00:08:36.940 The medium is the message.

00:08:39.080 Whenever we're talking about what these kids are consuming, we're always talking about the content.

00:08:44.340 All the stupid debates over banning TikTok focused on the types of commentary that you would get on TikTok.

00:08:52.840 This is anti-American. 0.99

00:08:54.200 This is pushing Chinese propaganda. 0.88

00:08:56.080 This is sexually lewd. 0.79

00:08:57.460 This is this.

00:08:58.160 This is that.

00:08:59.740 That misses 70% of the point.

00:09:03.140 Because for McLuhan, it's not just that the message is the message.

00:09:06.920 It's that the medium is the message.

00:09:08.340 The big problem with TikTok, really, is not any particular reel that you're watching on there.

00:09:12.920 It's TikTok.

00:09:13.840 It's that it's frying our brains and killing our attention spans, and we're staring at it all the time, bumping into trees.

00:09:20.500 That's the problem with TikTok.

00:09:22.000 In other words, the problem is the medium.

00:09:23.920 And a basic way to understand how the medium is the message is think about when TV comes out.

00:09:29.660 When TV comes out, you get I Love Lucy.

00:09:32.280 You get the nightly news.

00:09:33.480 You get some sports.

00:09:35.820 You get all the content.

00:09:37.080 but it also means that people are staying up later. It also means that now electronic light

00:09:44.060 is even more present in homes. It now means that people are falling asleep to this content.

00:09:50.680 It now means that social events are going to involve all coming together and not playing

00:09:54.780 cards and not talking and not going bowling, but you're just going to sit together silently and

00:09:58.560 watch something. In other words, the medium itself changes human behavior. It changes the

00:10:03.880 way that we think about ourselves. It changes the way we think about politics. And so, in so doing,

00:10:08.960 it itself is much more powerful than whatever messages you're getting from My Love Lucy.

00:10:13.260 That is obviously exaggerated. It goes to accelerated when you talk about the internet

00:10:20.500 combined with mobile devices, which is where it really kicks off. Millennials grew up mostly

00:10:27.240 on the internet. I remember when we got our first computer. I remember when we got the internet.

00:10:31.940 I was pretty young.

00:10:32.900 I was five or six years old.

00:10:34.100 And some of my richer friends got it much earlier than that.

00:10:38.420 But it's really marrying that with the mobile device such that now you're just constantly getting that dopamine hit.

00:10:44.720 You're constantly getting shorter and edgier commentary.

00:10:47.840 Because the internet then broke down the monopolies of the news networks and the entertainment networks, all of a sudden you get all these independent creators.

00:10:57.320 but the incentives for independent creators are totally different from the incentives

00:11:01.120 of people who are on networks. I've talked about this a lot with politics and how it affects the

00:11:05.600 way the podcasters and the streamers are changing GOP politics or not. The differences are when you

00:11:11.840 have a news network, say you have Fox News, some people are going to be a little more edgy. Some

00:11:15.960 people are going to be a little more mainstream. Some people are going to be a little more liberal

00:11:20.020 even, but they all have to be kind of cohesive within a network. And there are rules regulated

00:11:25.760 in part by the government, in part by the shareholders of News Corporation. So it keeps

00:11:30.320 guardrails around what is going to be said. When you get to independent media, not only do you lose

00:11:36.840 all of those guardrails, you get the exact opposite incentives. Because now the incentives are

00:11:42.700 constantly to be getting more attention from everyone else. Now, all of a sudden, you're not

00:11:47.980 on a team with anybody. You're competing against everybody. It's a war of all against all.

00:11:51.160 and the currency is eyeballs and attention.

00:11:55.540 The way to get the eyeballs and attention

00:11:57.140 is to be more extreme,

00:11:58.580 especially as political content becomes prominent.

00:12:01.040 You have to be more extreme in your beliefs.

00:12:02.440 I was talking to a pal of mine who observed

00:12:05.500 that the moment that political media reached its end limit

00:12:10.700 and it can never go any further in its present form

00:12:13.680 was when Kanye went on the Alex Jones show in the mask

00:12:18.000 with the bottle of Yoo-Hoo and the fly swatter

00:12:21.420 and said, I love Hitler. 0.88

00:12:23.680 You can't go any further. 0.83

00:12:25.560 There is nothing.

00:12:26.260 You've now violated the mythology,

00:12:30.860 the kind of religion that comes about in the 20th century

00:12:34.440 to replace traditional religion, especially Christianity,

00:12:38.020 where there's no devil, there are no gods,

00:12:40.000 there's nothing supernatural, nothing's enchanted.

00:12:41.900 There's only raw history

00:12:43.080 and there's not the incarnation of perfect good.

00:12:45.260 There's only the incarnation of evil.

00:12:46.680 So it flips Christianity on its head. 0.70

00:12:48.000 And who's the worst guy from the 20th century? It's Hitler. So Hitler becomes this figure who is 0.86

00:12:52.860 even more evil than Hitler. And Hitler is a very nasty fellow, but he becomes this absolute 0.69

00:12:58.940 incarnation in the imagination of pure evil. Not evil as a deprivation of good,

00:13:06.140 or sorry, not good as a deprivation of evil, but evil as a deprivation of good. 0.86

00:13:09.760 And so the most extreme thing you can possibly say is I love Hitler in that kind of crazy 0.68

00:13:15.080 environment. It can't go any further than that. Which means that there's a new kind of, as the 0.79

00:13:22.300 medium transforms how we think about politics, that too is going to shape the medium itself.

00:13:27.360 And this has led us to the art form, the pure art form of politics in the year of our Lord,

00:13:33.980 2026. That is the edit. And we don't, the edit is like a Zoomer thing. The edit is not a millennial

00:13:41.780 thing or a Gen X thing. So I have just been given a banquet. I like the edits. I have been given

00:13:46.780 this absolute feast of political edits to bring my McLuhan-infused media expertise and to savor

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00:15:03.820 political campaigns used to be won and lost by radio ads then tv ads then it became podcasts

00:15:11.700 and now we have arrived at the most powerful political art form of our time the edit

00:15:20.720 the edit the producers have compiled very tippity top gen z right wing political edits take it away

00:15:31.520 But it's all right. I'll get another one in London.

00:15:34.020 London? Is that your village?

00:15:35.820 Yes. It's a very big village.

00:15:37.920 What's it like?

00:15:39.060 Well, it's got streets filled with characters, bridges over the rivers, and buildings as tall as trees.

00:15:46.320 I'd like to see those things.

00:15:47.980 You will.

00:15:48.600 How?

00:15:49.400 We're going to build them here. We'll show your people how to use this land properly.

00:15:53.480 How to make the most of it.

00:15:54.820 Make the most of it?

00:15:56.200 Yes. We'll build roads and decent houses and...

00:15:59.480 How houses are fine.

00:16:01.160 You think that, only because you don't know any better.

00:16:05.280 There's so much we can teach you.

00:16:07.440 We've improved the lives of savages all over the world.

00:16:09.820 Savages?

00:16:31.160 It goes hard, except I don't like how long the intro was.

00:16:34.620 The intro was boring to me.

00:16:36.380 I remember when Pocahontas came out.

00:16:38.640 It's been 84 years.

00:16:40.720 The whole point of the edit is that it just plays on the ever-diminishing attention span of modern people,

00:16:47.680 especially younger people.

00:16:48.800 So you just have to have the rapid sound and the constantly changing pictures.

00:16:55.040 You know, you can't have like a 15-minute intro.

00:16:58.520 So that was weak.

00:17:01.160 I get the setup, but they should have done the setup in like four seconds.

00:17:04.080 Okay, next one.

00:17:04.920 But the Illuminati aren't just represented by pyramids.

00:17:06.900 They're also represented by an eye.

00:17:08.440 And what do I do?

00:17:09.260 They see.

00:17:10.280 Just like the Mediterranean Sea or Syria or, like we mentioned earlier, the Red Sea.

00:17:14.840 That's our second triangle, the triangle of eyes.

00:17:16.840 And when you put the triangle of pyramids and the triangle of eyes together, what do you get?

00:17:20.760 Two triangles star.

00:17:22.080 And what country lies from the middle of the star?

00:17:24.860 Israel.

00:17:25.260 And guess what Israel's national flag looks like?

00:17:28.120 Exactly.

00:17:31.160 This is pretty funny because a lot of the edits I've noticed, they do tend a little touch toward

00:17:54.780 Nazism, which kind of makes sense because it's just the it's just the hyper concentrated form

00:18:00.120 of political media, so it's got to have the most kind of edgy, extreme thing. 0.70

00:18:05.300 Like, you know, it's not going to be about marginal tax rates.

00:18:08.580 So I get that.

00:18:09.020 The thing I can't tell with that edit, though, is, is it ironic or not?

00:18:14.180 It's very hard to tell the difference between the real schizos and the guys just having

00:18:18.460 some fun.

00:18:19.080 Say something.

00:18:20.500 What do you say to a tree?

00:18:22.640 Anything you want.

00:18:24.880 I don't know.

00:18:25.520 And then it brought in UFOs and all that.

00:18:27.180 It's kind of making me think, though,

00:18:29.300 that this idea that you can't have like normie edits.

00:18:31.920 It's got to be just really concentrated, radical extremes.

00:18:35.880 What if we should just start doing normie edits?

00:18:39.380 Like, you know, like Mitt Romney

00:18:41.800 calling for a slightly lower corporate tax rate.

00:18:45.380 Then it's just like,

00:18:46.120 it's like Himmler shows up, you know, or whatever,

00:18:49.680 like, you know, Genghis Khan.

00:18:51.180 But it's just Romney wanting to save corporations

00:18:53.540 a little bit of money.

00:18:54.520 By lowering those marginal rates,

00:18:56.160 We help businesses that pay at the individual tax rate to have more money so they can hire more people and pay higher wages.

00:19:03.020 My plan is to lower it by 20% and put more people back to work.

00:19:21.420 Someone should do that. Someone should make that.

00:19:22.960 Okay, next one.

00:19:23.900 President Trump looked at the Taliban leader and said this.

00:19:27.680 I want to leave Afghanistan, but it's going to be a conditions-based withdrawal.

00:19:32.500 And translator translated.

00:19:34.520 And he said, if you harm a hair on a single American, I'm going to kill you.

00:19:41.340 And translator goes, and Trump goes, tell him what I said.

00:19:48.320 reached in his pocket, pulled out a satellite photo of the leader of the Taliban's home

00:19:54.940 and handed it to him.

00:19:56.300 Shut up.

00:19:57.080 Got up and walked out the room.

00:19:58.520 You're a dope dealer selling dope, is you like that?

00:20:02.480 Kicking those, kicking in those, is you like that?

00:20:06.000 You're a dope dealer selling laws, is you like that?

00:20:09.360 All 24, you won't go, is you like that?

00:20:12.340 nah the the story the problem with this edit is the story is better than the actual like

00:20:19.100 images and music there are like a billion iconic images of trump why it's just that was just the

00:20:25.460 same like two shots from the same event just back and forth so it was that was very low effort on

00:20:31.260 the edit itself but the story was really good so it deserved a better better montage at the end

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00:22:12.820 Nice, to the point, not overcomplicated.

00:22:17.260 It's not a five-minute meme. 0.99

00:22:18.820 It's just hot chick says Democrats are done. 0.57

00:22:24.200 I can understand that very simply.

00:22:27.560 I get it, and then you leave the audience wanting more.

00:22:30.480 So like seven seconds. That was great.

00:22:32.200 Next one.

00:22:33.000 I am European, and I am proud.

00:22:35.640 I am proud of our unparalleled history, culture, and diversity.

00:22:40.600 I am proud of what we have achieved as a civilization.

00:22:44.440 But Europe as we know it, in all its richness and greatness,

00:22:47.900 is under threat by a false representation of our history, present, and future.

00:22:53.900 We are being told lies about who we were, who we are, and who we should be.

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00:23:03.000 I was just about to do the hand job.

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00:23:30.900 It was nice.

00:23:31.260 It was sort of seductive enough without being untoward.

00:23:37.700 It was edgy enough without being, you know, sort of radical and pushing off the normies.

00:23:43.960 It was very, very well done.

00:23:45.500 Very compelling, obviously.

00:23:47.240 A beautiful edit overall.

00:23:48.680 Next one.

00:24:01.260 i thought i saw where this was going

00:24:19.500 wow extremely compelling i'm not being ironic it's like it that's very good political propaganda

00:24:27.180 because it doesn't it doesn't make any claims it just connects a bunch of things like 9 11

00:24:36.860 it just sort of implicitly blames on the jews like lets the muslims off the hook and implicitly blames

00:24:42.780 on the jews without ever really claiming that and then connects the star of david to the freemasons 0.84

00:24:48.220 even though the freemasons i don't think allowed jews in which is why the jews created their own

00:24:52.060 own Freemasons called B'nai B'rith in my limited understanding of Freemasonry and Judaism and then

00:24:58.300 connects it to like Saturn so there's this kind of cosmic sense of it and then the contrast

00:25:03.480 with Christianity it's very very good political propaganda because it makes you feel something

00:25:09.200 it like plays on antipathies and attraction and desire without ever having to make a claim or 0.55

00:25:16.760 defend a claim not yeah you're gonna that's whoever made it they probably have some problems

00:25:22.720 with their ideology we might have to say but very very talented at propaganda who is it naughty

00:25:29.620 naughty like k-n-o-t-t-y or n-a-u-g-a like like yeah okay okay that's not surprising next one

00:25:46.760 you know i remember this is like months ago brett cooper texted me and said i hadn't talked to her

00:26:04.920 in a while and she said hey mike i just wanted to call your attention there are apparently um

00:26:08.660 thirst trap edits of you on tiktok and then i was somewhere like someone like a stranger came up to

00:26:14.440 me and mention this in public, which is great. And I encourage more of them. I'm Michael Knowles.

00:26:19.560 See you next time. My brain is fried. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show. See you later.

The Michael Knowles Show - July 09, 2026

Ep. 2012 - Why Is Gen-Z More Politically Extreme Than EVER？

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