The Michael Knowles Show - August 07, 2026


Ep. 2033 - CRAZY SCANDAL: Youngest Black Professor LIES Himself Into The Job


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00:00:47.500 by one of the oldest and most prestigious universities in the world turns out to have
00:00:53.740 made up his entire resume, which the HR department at Cambridge probably should have figured out.
00:01:00.000 after Jason Arday claimed to have learned to write at 18, then to have raised millions of
00:01:07.660 dollars for charity by running 600 miles in just six days, 30 marathons in 35 days,
00:01:13.300 the last nine marathons with a broken leg, and to have appeared in a documentary that came out
00:01:19.620 20 years before he was born. We will examine what the worst academic scandal in history
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00:01:33.380 there. Then Democrat Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed seeks to reassure Jewish voters after 1.00
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00:03:52.080 I really want to get to this Cambridge professor. This is the worst academic scandal in history,
00:03:56.780 and it's really not about the guy. I mean, this is Professor Jussie Smollett times a billion.
00:04:02.680 Jussie Smollett seems downright credible compared to the claims that this guy made,
00:04:07.360 and he somehow still got hired at one of the most prestigious universities in the world.
00:04:11.140 This really says a lot more about the universities than it does about this scam artist.
00:04:15.280 First, though, I guess there's some kind of breaking news that I have to address because it involves me.
00:04:20.660 I woke up this morning to the information.
00:04:25.040 I was now first informed, the first I'm hearing of it, that I have been volunteered to be a debate moderator over the murder of Charlie Kirk.
00:04:35.320 I was volunteered by Andrew Wilson, who is a right-wing debate guy.
00:04:38.980 I'm sure you've seen him online.
00:04:40.000 And he offered, I guess he was proposing a debate with Candace over the killing of Charlie
00:04:46.940 and some of the conspiracy theories about it.
00:04:49.180 So I was volunteered for this by Andrew.
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00:04:58.680 It's great, I guess, that I'm like such a nice guy that I have been volunteered for this service
00:05:03.640 without anyone checking with me at any point in that.
00:05:07.320 So anyway, I don't know.
00:05:08.420 That's percolating on social media right now.
00:05:11.840 Truly, it's the first I'm hearing of it, so I haven't made a decision over whether or not that's a good idea.
00:05:17.000 I don't, you know, my view on the conspiracy theories generally is I don't think it's the right thing to debate in public.
00:05:23.920 You know, I kind of think that the murder of Charlie Kirk will be adjudicated in a court of law, not in the court of public opinion.
00:05:29.680 And I think that the defense of Tyler Robinson will present its case and the prosecution will present its case.
00:05:34.660 We've already heard a lot of this in the pretrial hearings.
00:05:37.760 So anyway, I haven't made a decision on that.
00:05:39.600 If you have some strong opinion about whether or not I should do that, please do let me know.
00:05:45.820 There's a kind of dark humor that comes out of the fact that the right wing has been debating burritos for the last few days.
00:05:54.040 And a lot of that has come into the right wingers all talking about these terrible jobs that they've all had to work.
00:05:59.300 working three jobs over time to afford food as they were coming up. And we were all kind of
00:06:05.520 joking about it. Oh, my first job was this. My first job was that. My first job was as a Subway
00:06:09.760 sandwich artist when I was 14. And I really liked the job. It was kind of a hard job. I really
00:06:14.680 liked it. We're all joking about it. And now I've been volunteered for maybe the worst job in all
00:06:19.220 of media. So anyway, let me know if you think that's a good idea, if it's the sort of thing
00:06:22.820 one should do or one should not do. Speaking of jobs, this Cambridge professor, former Cambridge
00:06:29.280 professor now, Professor Jason Arday, has just been exposed as the worst scammer in the history
00:06:39.180 of the academy. And there are a lot of scammers in the academy, but this one is pretty wild.
00:06:45.480 This guy, Jason Arday, was much fetid because in 2023, he became the youngest black professor
00:06:52.460 to have been appointed to Cambridge. 0.98
00:06:55.380 Cambridge, one of the oldest
00:06:56.580 and most prestigious universities in the world.
00:06:59.440 Arday was, until very recently,
00:07:01.400 the professorial chair in the sociology of education.
00:07:06.140 Oh, that was a red flag right off the bat.
00:07:08.200 The sociology of education,
00:07:10.300 that's one of the faker pseudo-academic disciplines out there.
00:07:14.840 But Cambridge should have caught this one
00:07:16.840 a little bit earlier.
00:07:18.400 Because here are some of the claims
00:07:21.260 that R. Day has made in his biography. He claimed to have been diagnosed with autism at the age of
00:07:26.480 three. He claimed to have been nonverbal, so he didn't speak until age 11. Then illiterate,
00:07:32.540 struggling to spell his own name until the age of 18. Now, this very prestigious professor,
00:07:39.160 that was quite a turnaround. He said that he helped to raise millions and millions of dollars
00:07:43.980 for charity through all sorts of athletic feats by running 300 miles in three days,
00:07:49.340 600 miles in six days. This makes the ancient Greek story of marathon really puts it to shame.
00:07:57.120 A guy runs just one marathon and one day dies by the end of it to give news of a battle.
00:08:04.140 And this guy was running 30 marathons in 35 days. Apparently the last nine marathons,
00:08:08.220 he ran with a broken leg. He claimed to have honorary visiting professorships at universities,
00:08:13.680 including the Ohio State University in the US, Ohio State, which then denied that claim.
00:08:19.140 And all of these claims didn't seem to have a shred of evidence to them.
00:08:23.740 He was then caught plagiarizing.
00:08:26.000 He apparently plagiarized his doctoral dissertation nearly 200 sentences verbatim from another student at a different institution.
00:08:35.800 He didn't cite his works properly, which kind of makes sense since he was making everything up.
00:08:40.440 And the journal, Social Sciences, reportedly had to revise an article of his from 2018 to add citations to show, quote, where ideas were adapted from past research.
00:08:52.360 So this, I think, is key.
00:08:53.540 It's not just that this guy was making up a ton.
00:08:55.220 We'll get into some more of his absurd claims about himself.
00:08:57.960 But I really want to focus on the universities and the academic institutions, the journals and all that, because they knew.
00:09:08.080 That's the real hidden story here that is not really being reported on.
00:09:12.960 They knew.
00:09:13.960 They obviously knew.
00:09:16.440 In fact, the fact that this journal comes out and says, oh, you know, we had to fix some of his citations just to make clear where some of his ideas were adapted from other work.
00:09:25.820 They knew he was plagiarizing.
00:09:28.280 It was obvious, and they were covering it up.
00:09:30.820 Oh, no, no, it wasn't plagiarism.
00:09:32.100 He just didn't quite correctly cite his sources.
00:09:35.140 and he adapted some ideas verbatim. And so they were colluding in this.
00:09:41.420 It's not just that the academic institutions look like idiots because they were blindsided 1.00
00:09:47.020 by this legendary scammer. They clearly knew, but the story was too good. The youngest black 1.00
00:09:54.480 professor, they were leaning into the DEI. They wanted it to be true. And so they were 1.00
00:09:59.760 colluding and conspiring with his fraud. Now, he made a lot of other claims, too. He claimed
00:10:06.720 to have been a professional or semi-professional athlete in multiple sports. No evidence of that
00:10:13.980 whatsoever. He had to walk back some of those claims. He also made the full-on Jussie Smollett.
00:10:19.260 He made several claims about physical threats. This, I think, is being reported by The Guardian.
00:10:24.180 he claimed that masked men had shown up to threaten him twice if he wouldn't resign from
00:10:31.260 his professorship. One time, the masked men threatened him at knife point. It's unclear
00:10:36.420 whether or not he was holding his subway sandwich at the time. Now, of course, there's CCTV. We're
00:10:41.320 talking about the United Kingdom. There's CCTV cameras everywhere. But the CCTV in the buildings
00:10:47.280 at the university, they weren't able to catch the masked intruders. The masked intruders, which
00:10:53.020 may have been more likely a figment of the professor's imagination or an intentional
00:10:58.300 deception more likely. He then told the guardian that a severed pig's head was sent to his family
00:11:05.320 home. The police had looked into this and they found that a butcher shop in South London had
00:11:13.360 sold a whole pig the morning that the incident occurred. Okay. The police told the guardian
00:11:19.060 categorically that that claim was false, that such an investigation had not taken place,
00:11:25.140 that the butcher, which Arday said the pig had come from, also said they had no recollection
00:11:29.460 of salient pigs. So we are talking about a relentless pathological liar who is inventing 0.95
00:11:37.040 claims that were so absurd that they were debunked within seconds. Now, Arday has resigned, 0.87
00:11:42.980 but he refuses to accept any guilt. He says the relentless accusations, speculation,
00:11:46.760 and public commentary have taken a profound toll on me and those I love. He would not address
00:11:53.060 these specific allegations, like the billions of things he lied about, but he said that his
00:11:57.880 resignation should not be, quote, mistaken for an acceptance of the narratives that have surrounded
00:12:02.900 me. Quote, it is simply the decision of someone who has reached the limits of what any person
00:12:08.440 should reasonably be expected to endure. What? This is worse than Smollett. Smollett looks
00:12:17.060 totally credible compared to this guy. The scandal is not about some scammer. The scandal is about
00:12:25.100 the institutions. How could you send your kid to Cambridge after this? How could you? This is so
00:12:31.120 bad. This is so bad. The fact that Cambridge hired this guy, the fact that Cambridge didn't
00:12:37.680 look into the bazillion red flags about this guy. The fact that Cambridge promoted this guy
00:12:41.820 and didn't demand that he resign immediately and still has not accepted fault for hiring him
00:12:48.960 means that you can, I mean, they should close up shop. Cambridge has had a good long run.
00:12:55.060 They should close up shop after this. This is that bad. But it's not about him because it's
00:13:01.320 not just about this guy. It's not even just about Cambridge. It's not even about this academic
00:13:07.040 Journal. It's really all of the universities. Statistically, all of the universities today
00:13:12.960 have Jason Arday's running around the faculty lounges. We recall, I recall at least about a
00:13:21.360 decade ago, there was this crisis of the social sciences, specifically of psychology. There was
00:13:26.400 the replication crisis that half of the psychology papers that have been published recently can't be
00:13:31.260 replicated. They're just nonsense. You look at these departments, the studies departments,
00:13:36.520 you know, women's studies, gay studies, studies, studies. Those are fake academic disciplines. 0.95
00:13:42.300 Ethnicity, race, and migration studies. That was a new one that showed up to university when I was
00:13:46.260 in school. Sociology, all of these departments are full of nonsense. So our day is different 0.62
00:13:55.640 from these other liberal professors, not in kind, but just in degree. Most of the professors don't
00:14:03.400 claim to run six marathons in six days on a broken leg. Most of them don't claim to have
00:14:08.820 been illiterate till they were 18. Most of them don't claim to have been professional athletes
00:14:13.240 in multiple sports and to have degrees and appointments from other universities that
00:14:18.580 can easily debunk it. And they don't claim to have severed pig's heads sent to their mother's
00:14:21.640 house. But they do make all sorts of wacky claims. They do commit plagiarism. They do lie about their
00:14:29.040 credentials. They do make up a bunch of nonsense. This is an indictment of the whole modern university 0.99
00:14:36.780 system. And right-wingers love dunking on the universities. They especially love dunking on
00:14:40.900 the humanities. I'm the outlier here. I love the university system. The university system,
00:14:45.920 which emerges in the Middle Ages out of Christendom and out of the church, is one of the
00:14:51.700 great triumphs of our whole civilization. But it has been so perverted by these people, 0.98
00:14:58.160 by the secularists, by the liberals. It's been so perverted that it seems almost unsalvageable
00:15:03.920 at this point. And right now, what they're trying to do is just contain it. No, it was just this
00:15:08.600 guy. It was just our day. It was just at one university. No, it's the whole system. It's the
00:15:14.680 whole system. So they're trying to contain it. And they're doing that liberal thing that they
00:15:17.780 always do, which is whenever one of their hoaxes is debunked, they say, well, look, okay, it's true,
00:15:22.300 it's true, it's true, it's true, it's true. Okay, maybe it's false, but it speaks to a greater truth.
00:15:26.980 Yeah, all of our false claims about race and sex and victimhood, it's false, but it points to a
00:15:32.180 greater truth. And then when they can't even push that line anymore, when that's no longer tenable,
00:15:37.280 what they say is, well, the real tragedy of all of this is this is really knocking at the
00:15:43.800 credibility of the institution. The real victims here are the universities. The real victims are
00:15:48.040 the liberals. The real victims are the sociology departments. I don't think so. The real victims
00:15:52.760 here are the students. The real victims here are your kids. The real victims here are the
00:15:57.200 taxpayers. The real victims here are our societies, which trusted universities and
00:16:03.080 academic institutions and people in public authority to help guide the country.
00:16:09.480 And those public authorities have failed. They've been worse than failed. They've deceived us.
00:16:14.960 And there needs to be a reckoning for that. Yeah, okay, it's good that Arde resigned.
00:16:19.480 Do not let it go. That is the tip of the iceberg. There should be a McCarthy-style
00:16:25.500 investigation. I almost want to say witch hunt here for the actual witches, not the fake witches,
00:16:33.540 the actual witches of our academic institutions, because this is not one fraction of one iota
00:16:40.500 of the corruption in academia. Our day is not the exception. Our day is the norm.
00:16:46.480 Okay, speaking of these universities, you can see this playing out in the United States.
00:16:50.240 Good news if you're a student at the University of Michigan.
00:16:52.780 The University of Michigan has come out and said that freshman students will not have to get grades anymore.
00:17:02.320 And that somehow this will advance the cause of learning and education.
00:17:05.700 We'll get to that in a moment.
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00:18:31.760 University of Michigan now says that your freshman kids don't need to get grades anymore.
00:18:36.220 Why?
00:18:37.900 Well, because according to the university's website, we believe that covering grades will
00:18:44.820 help students, that covering grades, meaning not giving them grades anymore, they'll just
00:18:50.100 have pass fail, will help students start strong and curb the mental health crisis unfolding
00:18:56.160 among college-aged individuals.
00:18:57.620 Our goal is to help first-year students acclimate to the demands of college and allow intrinsic
00:19:02.500 motivations to guide personally meaningful academic journeys, core elements of a liberal
00:19:06.640 arts and sciences education. If covered grades are optional, covering an individual's grades
00:19:13.480 will inadvertently become equated with not doing well in a class. If the policy is the same for
00:19:18.140 all students, it is equitable across the board. So it's not just that the students don't need to
00:19:25.740 get grades, it's that they're not allowed to get grades. Because if they choose not to get grades,
00:19:30.920 then it's going to be clear what's going on. These are not good students, and they're not
00:19:34.640 getting good grades. If you're getting an A, then you want to get the grade. I remember there's one
00:19:38.700 class. I think you had the, when I was an undergrad, you had the option to take one or two
00:19:42.680 classes pass-fail. And it was senior year, last semester, I was busy doing a lot of other things.
00:19:49.100 I was overwhelmed with my coursework and my other work. And I took a class pass-fail. I took the
00:19:54.140 class, pass, fail, because I knew I wasn't going to do well in the class, and I said, okay, it's a
00:19:58.140 free option, and I'm going to do other work. That's always what that means. They say, okay, it's not
00:20:01.480 just that you get that option now, but in order to cover up for all the bad students, we're going
00:20:05.940 to make it mandatory. This is supposedly the most educated generation in history. If you Google
00:20:11.560 most educated generation in history, it'll say Gen Z. They're in school for longer. They get more 1.00
00:20:17.520 degrees, more credentials, more time in the classroom. But you don't judge education by
00:20:25.940 most. Most is not the appropriate adjective to use for education because most doesn't necessarily
00:20:34.040 mean best. I'm writing a book on this right now, actually, based on a commencement speech that I
00:20:38.300 gave. We have the most educated generation, but they don't know anything. They don't know the
00:20:43.420 difference between men and women. And the University of Michigan gets one thing right. 1.00
00:20:48.200 There is a mental health crisis unfolding among college-aged individuals.
00:20:52.520 Huge swaths of Gen Z, I think actually the majority of Gen Z, reports experiencing an
00:20:57.320 existential crisis. Levels of stress, anxiety, depression are at all-time highs.
00:21:03.460 Now, that's very strange for the most educated generation in history, because what education
00:21:09.000 is supposed to do for us is to help us to understand the world, to discipline our wills,
00:21:14.280 to make sense of our freedom. That's why we call it the liberal arts.
00:21:18.800 So right off the bat, you have this incoherence. The most educated generation in history
00:21:25.140 is also the most stressed out, facing existential crises, depressed, anxious,
00:21:31.860 going crazy, having mental health crises. One of those things has to be false.
00:21:37.000 either the education is bad. Now it would explain the mental health crises or the mental health
00:21:45.200 crisis is fake and they really are the most educated generation. The former is obviously 0.98
00:21:49.960 what's going on here, which means that this is a fundamental problem for the university,
00:21:56.640 for how we educate people. And I think it goes back quite a long ways. I think it goes back to
00:22:02.140 John Henry Newman writing the idea of a university in the 19th century, pointing out that a
00:22:06.960 university is an institution that purports to universal knowledge. But when the universities
00:22:11.320 took God out of the curriculum, when they sort of mocked the idea of God, they removed
00:22:15.080 theology as an essential part of the curriculum. Right there, you destroy the university's purpose
00:22:20.920 because the university is at that point saying, we don't have universal knowledge. We're not going
00:22:25.420 to say anything about the ultimate questions. So at that point, the education becomes less
00:22:31.020 a journey to educate oneself, a journey toward wisdom and truth, goodness, and beauty.
00:22:39.440 And it becomes more a cafeteria, a buffet-style offering where you go and you say, okay, I want
00:22:45.920 a little bit of this. I want a little taste of math, a little taste of history, a little taste
00:22:49.980 of this kind of philosophy. Philosophy itself ceases to be the pursuit of wisdom, and it becomes
00:22:54.900 just a kind of historical survey. You know, Kant said this, Hegel said that, Aristotle said this.
00:23:00.460 Pick whatever you like. It's that the whole educational endeavor has been corrupted,
00:23:06.260 and it's been corrupted ultimately because they took God out of the curriculum.
00:23:10.100 But the consequence of that, the consequence is that young people no longer know what to believe,
00:23:16.980 no longer know that they can believe anything at all because it introduces a kind of skepticism
00:23:20.840 and relativism into the university that undermines its truth-seeking mission.
00:23:24.400 and furthermore because they the universities have lost their verve in believing they can
00:23:30.400 know anything they can teach anything it has supplanted learning with activism this is why
00:23:35.960 students and you see this reflected in social scientific data students are more activist than
00:23:39.860 they ever were they're told from freshman year you need to go out there and do something you
00:23:43.720 need to go change the world that's the thesis of every commencement speech now you go to any
00:23:47.180 commencement speech they say all right now you got you got to go change the world but really
00:23:50.460 they're told that starting in fifth grade, starting in kindergarten. So you got to go be
00:23:53.880 activists, go out there and march, protest, change the world. So this emphasis on the will over the
00:23:58.000 intellect also fundamentally undermines and misunderstands how the will and the intellect
00:24:03.020 relate and what education is endeavoring to do. The our day issue is a symptom of the whole
00:24:11.980 system. You can see it in the UK, you can see it in the US, you can see it throughout the West.
00:24:16.060 Okay, speaking of this new generation, I want to get to future Caliph Senator Abdul El-Sayed,
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00:25:56.460 Abdul El-Sayed. Abdul El-Sayed, who has said that Israel is just as evil as Hamas after the
00:26:06.780 October 7th attack by Hamas on the state of Israel. Abdul El-Sayed, who is now the Democrat
00:26:13.020 nominee for Senate, has come out and he says, I want to reassure Jewish voters. Here's how.
00:26:19.620 To my Jewish American sisters and brothers, one of the most indelible memories of this campaign
00:26:26.700 will have been the opportunity to break bread with you at Seder, to worship with you at shul,
00:26:33.780 to be embraced by you.
00:26:38.120 And listening to sisters and brothers who said,
00:26:42.260 you know, I want to join this movement
00:26:43.640 because AIPAC doesn't speak for me.
00:26:45.740 Because I understand that self-determination for one people
00:26:49.960 does not require the quenching of self-determination for another people.
00:26:54.660 That unless all of us are free, none of us are free,
00:26:58.300 I want to tell you the great gift that you've given me.
00:27:01.760 And to all of my sisters and brothers,
00:27:03.780 of the Jewish faith
00:27:05.420 or any faith at all
00:27:06.460 or no faith at all,
00:27:08.060 I want you to know
00:27:08.960 that my commitment
00:27:09.700 to your safety,
00:27:10.540 my commitment
00:27:11.000 to Jewish safety
00:27:12.020 is the same commitment
00:27:13.680 that I have
00:27:14.380 to the safety
00:27:15.460 of my own daughters.
00:27:17.780 Because if there is
00:27:18.800 one question
00:27:19.660 of a political philosophy
00:27:20.960 that ought to animate us all
00:27:22.280 is what would we build,
00:27:23.720 what would we do
00:27:24.420 if we treated
00:27:26.040 all of our kids
00:27:27.020 like they were
00:27:27.780 all of our kids?
00:27:29.660 How would we spend
00:27:30.780 our money?
00:27:32.000 Where would we put
00:27:33.120 our investment. How would we embrace one another? What kind of schools would we build?
00:27:39.860 What kind of health care would we offer? Okay, so he goes into the Democrat and especially the
00:27:44.820 socialist platitudes there toward the end. But the first part is directly aimed at the Jewish
00:27:49.440 voters. He says, hey, yeah, I know. I said that Israel is just as evil as Hamas. And yeah, I know,
00:27:54.260 you guys are worried about me, but don't worry. I will care for your safety just as much as I care
00:28:00.820 for the safety of my own daughters. Minor point here. Abdul El-Sayed supports men in women's
00:28:08.420 bathrooms. Abdul El-Sayed supports boys and girls sports. I would not find this very reassuring if
00:28:16.260 I were a Jewish voter, okay? Because this is a guy who does not take seriously the safety of 1.00
00:28:20.460 his own daughters on a crucial issue, on an issue that once, kind of like the R-Day scandal,
00:28:26.080 It's a symptom that points to a broader rot, an issue that has really dominated American
00:28:30.760 discourse because it shows the total lack of judgment of the people who embrace this
00:28:33.800 ideology. 0.96
00:28:34.860 He thinks that big husky Hank should go in and strip down naked in the girl's changing 0.99
00:28:40.800 room at the public pool. 0.99
00:28:42.640 He thinks that a hulking dude should be able to wrestle a woman in sports, crack her skull
00:28:50.440 in, like you've seen time and time again.
00:28:52.500 So this specific example that he's using,
00:28:54.860 don't worry, I care for you as much
00:28:56.700 as I care for the safety of my own daughters.
00:29:00.700 That's to say, I don't care for your safety at all.
00:29:02.960 Not a good sign, not a good sign.
00:29:04.300 Really hope this guy does not become senator. 1.00
00:29:06.580 Now, speaking of the rise of Islam in the United States, 0.97
00:29:10.160 The Daily Wire has a new movie coming out.
00:29:11.420 We announced it yesterday, it was trending on X.
00:29:13.260 You may have seen the trailer. 0.99
00:29:15.000 This is Run, Hide, Fight, Infidels. 1.00
00:29:17.900 So this is a follow-up to our movie, Run, Hide, Fight. 1.00
00:29:20.620 It was the first movie that Daily Wire launched, first narrative film that Daily Wire launched, which did very, very well.
00:29:26.500 A lot of people still sign up every single month for the Daily Wire specifically to watch Run, Hide, Fight.
00:29:31.520 This is the long-anticipated follow-up to that movie, Run, Hide, Fight, Infidels, starring Jonathan Majors, among other people.
00:29:39.120 It's not following the same characters.
00:29:41.500 It's the same kind of themes, Run, Hide, Fight. 0.88
00:29:43.700 And the story is about an Islamic takeover of a university. 0.61
00:29:49.040 If you haven't seen the trailer, take a look. 1.00
00:29:52.700 Your country is beneath contempt. 0.59
00:29:56.500 We who love and serve Allah fought back against the Americans and the Zionists 0.60
00:30:02.700 from the scourge of secularism and the lands of unbelief.
00:30:12.820 Anyone going to listen to Captain Saunders tomorrow?
00:30:14.980 The retired Delta IV soldier with a new book out. 0.75
00:30:18.220 He's the polar opposite of those brain-dead protesters.
00:30:21.220 Given the current climate, should Clay Saunders even be allowed on campus?
00:30:24.220 Mr. Saunders is a close personal friend of Chancellor Friedman.
00:30:27.220 This is a decision I cannot find. 1.00
00:30:29.220 There are three ways Islam will conquer the West. 1.00
00:30:34.220 Through immigration, through the wombs of our women, 1.00
00:30:41.220 and by using our nation's freedoms against us. 1.00
00:30:48.220 Are you paying attention?
00:30:56.220 Listen carefully.
00:31:00.220 The great Satan America will fall. 1.00
00:31:09.220 You are infidels. 1.00
00:31:11.220 The bodies of women are not pure and men's souls are unclean. 1.00
00:31:15.220 What makes them so dangerous? 1.00
00:31:18.820 Their goals are not in this life,
00:31:21.380 but the next.
00:31:26.300 Anyone?
00:31:27.600 We got friends here, I can't just leave.
00:31:28.980 Listen to me!
00:31:29.940 In the law,
00:31:31.780 we cannot run or hide from what is coming.
00:31:35.720 We have to fight.
00:31:37.220 I will be rewarded 10,000 times in the next life. 0.98
00:31:40.360 When you die, you're nothing. 0.92
00:31:42.980 Only one way to find out. 0.74
00:31:45.220 that's the American way. 0.51
00:31:54.640 Do I have your attention?
00:31:56.300 Do we have your attention?
00:31:57.960 I got a sneak peek of the movie.
00:31:59.740 Obviously, it's coming out September 16th.
00:32:01.700 What I can tell you is, 0.98
00:32:03.600 however unhinged and schizo you think the movie is,
00:32:07.300 based on that trailer,
00:32:09.100 you need to go up about an order of magnitude.
00:32:11.300 Okay, this is,
00:32:12.540 if Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski made Red Dawn in the big two six, it would approach what this
00:32:21.040 movie is. Made by, it's got a great cast, directors, all sorts of people. But of course,
00:32:28.800 Dallas Sonnier, who we worked with on movies for a long time. Dallas Sonnier, perhaps the
00:32:32.580 preeminent connoisseur of violence in film working today. You're going to love it. You're
00:32:37.580 going to get a real kick out of it. So anyway, get ready for that. Get your subscriptions ready.
00:32:41.960 Get your credit card ready to subscribe coming out September 16th.
00:32:46.020 Talk about a news cycle.
00:32:47.480 Talk about just, you know, DW sometimes, we really hit the timing right. 0.99
00:32:51.800 Right after the nomination of Abdul El-Sayed, you're getting these Islamic protests in the 0.87
00:32:57.680 streets, obviously the rise of Mamdana Stan in New York.
00:33:00.860 You get a movie that is Red Dawn for the 21st century.
00:33:05.440 Okay.
00:33:06.380 Now, speaking of demographic changes and mass migration and all that,
00:33:11.360 good news coming out of the White House.
00:33:12.500 President Trump has just signed new executive orders on birthright citizenship.
00:33:17.160 Right off the bat, whenever an executive order comes out,
00:33:20.700 people say, conservatives say, well, I wish this were done in legislation.
00:33:24.780 Because what is done with an executive order can be undone very easily with an executive order.
00:33:29.200 Yes, that's true.
00:33:30.420 But the structure of our legislature today is such that you really don't get much of anything
00:33:36.380 done with legislation. That's not even the fault of the leadership of the House or of the Senate.
00:33:41.140 That's just kind of how the legislature is set up. So the executive has to do some of these things if
00:33:46.320 they're going to be done at all, but the executive really does not have a ton of power. So President
00:33:51.380 Trump signed the birthright citizenship executive order. That was overturned by the Supreme Court
00:33:55.240 in a very stupid decision, unfortunately, with a misreading of the 14th Amendment. 0.92
00:33:59.940 And I'm misreading even of the Juan Kim Mark case from the late 19th century. 0.98
00:34:03.480 In any case, Trump has not given up.
00:34:04.940 Trump is a fighter.
00:34:05.760 So he's going to keep pushing for this.
00:34:06.980 Because if we permit open birthright citizenship in this day and age with open borders, with birth tourism, with the ease of travel, with Democrats who are encouraging an invasion of our country, if we do that, then we don't really have a country anymore.
00:34:22.060 We don't really have sovereignty.
00:34:23.160 So what do these executive orders do?
00:34:24.920 He's trying to observe the Supreme Court decision, recognizing they're just going to smack it down if he does the same one again.
00:34:29.940 but still try to get what we can get. So he has narrowed the birthright citizenship orders
00:34:35.800 to exclude alien enemies. He's daring the Supreme Court. He's saying,
00:34:40.860 are you really going to come out and say that the children of alien enemies, people who are
00:34:45.760 specifically designated as enemies of the United States, that they have a right to just show up
00:34:49.940 here one day, cross the Rio Grande illegally, somehow find themselves here, and then pop out
00:34:55.480 a kid and that kid is an American citizen with the right to become president someday? You're
00:34:59.920 really going to say that? The employees of foreign governments, because the 14th Amendment doesn't
00:35:03.620 say that the kids of diplomats are necessarily natural born citizens. So this expands that a
00:35:10.620 little bit to say employees of foreign governments, associates of foreign governments who have kids
00:35:15.440 here, those kids don't become citizens right away. And it also goes after birth tourism and
00:35:19.280 surrogacy. And this I think is really key because you could right now have Mr. and Mrs. Osama bin 0.96
00:35:24.560 Laden. You could have Mr. and Mrs. Xi Jinping hire a surrogate because of the commodification
00:35:31.560 of human life and the commercialization of having babies. You could have them hire a surrogate in
00:35:36.720 the United States with their kid. The kid pops out on American soil, and all of a sudden, Osama Jr. 0.77
00:35:43.860 or Xi Jinping Jr. are just American citizens who could become president of the United States.
00:35:48.300 That is obviously absurd. The founders and the framers and the framers of the 14th Amendment
00:35:53.020 and every serious statesman who's ever lived in America
00:35:55.480 would be turning their graves over this.
00:35:58.440 So what I love that this shows
00:36:00.380 is that Trump is dealing in political reality.
00:36:02.520 He's fighting against forces that are really daunting.
00:36:07.720 And it's another reminder to the right
00:36:09.000 that is the kind of squishier part of the right,
00:36:10.960 which is always fretting about the growth of executive power
00:36:13.200 and the fears of autocracy and tyranny and whatever.
00:36:17.380 The threat to your liberty
00:36:18.240 is not coming from the executive branch.
00:36:19.700 The threat to your liberty is coming much more likely
00:36:22.140 from the judiciary, from the bureaucrats, from a Congress that just structurally now can't do its
00:36:27.680 job. And the executive is really the only branch fighting back. A reminder of how history works.
00:36:33.560 You go back to ancient Rome, which men think about several times a day. And you remember,
00:36:40.520 in our modern kind of Republican history, you think of Julius Caesar as the bad guy.
00:36:44.580 Julius Caesar is the guy who ended the Roman Republic, took away the power of the Roman
00:36:48.400 Senate and instituted this empire, which then really grew under Augustus. But that's not how
00:36:55.280 it was understood in ancient Rome or really up until a relatively modern era. Caesar was the
00:37:03.680 good guy. If you think Julius Caesar was bad, wait till you hear about the Roman Senate at the time
00:37:09.000 of Julius Caesar. That's it here. This is why I haven't brought up Dante in a while. Dante,
00:37:14.600 He has this great call to Caesar, one of the great invectives in the Divine Comedy.
00:37:21.280 He says, oh, Caesar, why do you no longer accompany me?
00:37:24.520 Where are you?
00:37:26.640 Justinian fitted the bridle, but the saddle is empty.
00:37:29.580 We need a leader, a spirited leader, to protect our liberties because they're being destroyed
00:37:34.560 by all the other aspects of government.
00:37:36.120 Okay.
00:37:37.560 Now, before we go, I got to get to, I know, look, we're running late on the mailbag.
00:37:41.500 I don't care.
00:37:41.980 We got to get to the transgender star in the WNBA. 1.00
00:37:44.700 The WNBA might recruit this guy, Julie.
00:37:47.320 I don't know what his real name is, but he goes by Julie Tittart.
00:37:50.640 He's a Frenchman, six foot three.
00:37:52.740 He's a six foot three guy. 0.58
00:37:54.360 He pretended to be a woman starting in 2021.
00:37:57.720 There's some chatter now that he might play for a WNBA team.
00:38:01.500 Caitlin Clark was asked about the prospect of trans guys in the WNBA.
00:38:07.280 Caitlin Clark, who all the conservatives are always defending,
00:38:09.920 Caitlin Clark refused to speak out against him.
00:38:11.980 I think for us, like, you know, it's not really a discussion we really have in our locker room.
00:38:19.320 I think it's for leagues and the governing bodies to work with their athletes to find solutions.
00:38:23.060 But our focus is on basketball, and that's what we talk about and how we can get wins.
00:38:26.820 And obviously, we didn't do that tonight.
00:38:28.000 So we need to find an area to improve in that way.
00:38:31.340 Do you have any reaction to the comment?
00:38:33.980 I just answered for you.
00:38:36.440 We'll go over to the Zoom.
00:38:38.440 We'll start with Chloe.
00:38:40.640 Kaitlin Clark.
00:38:41.440 I love her.
00:38:41.860 she's a tragic figure because Caitlin Clark is an avatar of the entire West. Caitlin Clark,
00:38:46.760 this big star of the WNBA, is asked, hey, should men play in the WNBA? She says, I don't know.
00:38:53.520 This is like the West. Hey, should the West be just overrun by foreign people who speak 1.00
00:38:58.380 different languages, who have different habits, who believe in a different religion, who really 0.97
00:39:02.200 have nothing in common with the West? Should that happen? And what does the West say? You say,
00:39:05.820 I don't know. I throw my hands up. I'm neutral. Because the West has become nothing. The West was
00:39:10.580 defined by Christianity. When the West gave that up, beginning all the way back in the 16th and 0.96
00:39:15.920 17th centuries through the wars of religion that led the West to say, okay, we're not explicitly
00:39:20.980 Christian, all the way up to the founding of the European Union, which refused to say that it was
00:39:23.900 a Christian civilization. They thought that they were becoming something more, something bigger,
00:39:29.580 something enlightened, something liberal, but really they just became nothing. Because if the
00:39:33.820 West is not Christian, the West is nothing. There's nothing that unites it. There's nothing 1.00
00:39:37.420 that defines it. And so it becomes a vacuum and vacuums get filled by stuff. The WNBA was founded
00:39:44.260 so that women could have a basketball league because if women tried to play in the NBA, 1.00
00:39:48.600 they would lose because men are stronger than women. So it was established specifically only 0.76
00:39:54.380 to exclude men. And now the question is, should it include men? And if the WNBA includes men,
00:40:00.900 what will happen is it won't expand the WNBA. It will abolish the WNBA, which is fine. I don't care 0.65
00:40:05.280 about the WNBA, but as a matter of justice, it would just destroy the WNBA. It's not a question
00:40:11.100 of expanding to include people. It would just destroy it. The same thing goes for marriage.
00:40:16.040 This is really the heart of the marriage debate. People say, can we expand the definition of
00:40:19.560 marriage to include two men or two women or three men or four dudes and a billy goat or whatever?
00:40:25.000 And you say, well, I know you think of that as expanding marriage, but all it would do is abolish
00:40:29.540 marriage because marriage is distinguished. It is defined as being a union between a man and a
00:40:35.120 woman for the purpose of procreation for the education of children. That's what it is. 0.96
00:40:39.460 If you expand the definition to include all sorts of things that are not marriage,
00:40:44.580 all you have done is abolish marriage. Marriage ceases to exist as a distinct category of the
00:40:51.180 law and of society. Same thing for the WNBA. You include dudes. It's just not the WNBA. Now, 1.00
00:40:56.980 it's just the NBA. It's like a worse version of the NBA with stupid colored footballs 1.00
00:41:01.080 and women getting beaten all the time. 1.00
00:41:04.980 Okay, last, I know I'm running late.
00:41:06.140 I don't care. 0.92
00:41:06.820 Last thing I have to get to with the WNBA. 1.00
00:41:09.020 The Atlanta Dream player, Angel Reese, 1.00
00:41:12.200 she's, I guess, a WNBA lady.
00:41:13.760 She has just announced a new Barbie collaboration,
00:41:18.660 a new set of dolls,
00:41:20.300 because there were no black dolls when she was a kid. 0.78
00:41:24.480 Honestly, I didn't have a lot of dolls
00:41:26.000 because I didn't have dolls that really looked like me much.
00:41:29.060 And that's why I kind of really wanted to make sure
00:41:30.860 it's really important it's really important to have this black barbie doll because when i was
00:41:46.960 growing up there were no black barbie dolls this girl is how old like 25 maybe or younger
00:41:52.200 black barbie debuted in 1967 there have been black barbie dolls for not only all of this 0.91
00:42:00.980 chick's life but for many multiples of this lady's life the demand in other words for anti-black
00:42:07.940 racism sharply outstrips the supply you saw this in the rday case going all the way back to the
00:42:13.880 top of the show you see this in blm you see this in so much of left-wing activism there is a 60
00:42:21.100 year back order on anti-black racism, but they won't give it up. They won't give up the demand
00:42:27.640 for it. Very, very silly, but it's more pernicious than silly. It's used as a cudgel 0.99
00:42:33.860 to pervert our institutions. And so when you, even whether we're talking about Cambridge
00:42:38.040 University, we're talking about the WNBA, which no one really cares about. I don't know that
00:42:41.360 people care about Cambridge University anymore. It's just a reminder that so much of liberal
00:42:46.740 modernity, getting back to our discussion on the university. It's a turning away from
00:42:51.440 understanding the world and a turning toward changing the world. That's the big shift in
00:42:56.960 modernity. Karl Marx said it in the thesis on Feuerbach, the philosophers heretofore have
00:43:00.700 endeavored to interpret the world, but the point is to change it. So that's what we've turned to.
00:43:04.360 The universities at their commencements, they used to debate aspects of the natural law. That was
00:43:09.160 what a commencement ceremony was. Now it's just a bunch of goobers coming out saying,
00:43:14.260 you got to go change the world. And so that shift from intellect to will, that shift from 0.59
00:43:21.680 understanding reality and working in accord with it and cooperating with God's grace toward I'm
00:43:26.120 going to make myself a God. Some people see things that are and say, why? I dream things that never
00:43:30.480 were and say, why not? That shift leads you to lie. You have to lie if you're going to try to
00:43:37.440 change the world. You have to deny aspects of reality. And when you lie, you're going to lose.
00:43:43.840 Reality is going to win in the end, and you're going to cause a lot of pain and suffering along
00:43:47.320 the way. You can't actually do that. You can't actually change the world. The lies are going
00:43:52.120 to catch up with you. They're going to catch up with you electorally, when we're talking about
00:43:55.600 pretending the boys can be girls. They're going to catch up with you academically, as in the case 0.85
00:43:59.780 of our day. They're going to catch up with you theologically, religiously, spiritually,
00:44:05.140 as in the case of the most educated generation in history facing existential crises en masse.
00:44:12.400 Much better to live in accordance with the truth.
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00:45:32.680 your savings compared to renewal price void in Florida. I did not pick the favorite comment
00:45:37.480 yesterday. This is from the producers. Let's see if they're right, Nate. A. Michael single-handedly
00:45:41.460 unified the right. All sides condemn the way he eats a burrito. Okay, can I just, I know we're
00:45:45.900 running, I don't care. I'll go two hours today. They were making fun of me because, do we have
00:45:49.800 the picture? They were making fun of me because I was tasting the burritos yesterday as part of
00:45:54.100 the great burrito debate of 2026. And I took a bite from the middle, like I was playing a Mexican
00:45:59.160 harmonica, I took the bite from the middle. Now, I'm not saying that I would always eat a burrito
00:46:03.560 that way. But one, if you eat a burrito the other way, people are going to make memes about you.
00:46:07.480 It's like eating a corn dog at the Iowa State Fair. And two, if I'm trying to just get to the
00:46:12.360 heart of the burrito so that I can adjudicate the best burrito, the $20 burrito or the homemade
00:46:17.040 burrito, I want to get right into the guts of the burrito. And so if I'm doing that on camera,
00:46:22.660 I got to go from the middle. I can't go because if you go from the side, you're going to get all
00:46:26.920 tortilla. And that would make it even worse. Our mailbag is sponsored by PureTalk. Go to
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00:46:37.520 Good morning, Michael. This is Arun. So President Trump, whom I love, no homo,
00:46:41.820 just endorsed Mike Lindell for governor of Minnesota. And I'm trying to figure out what 1.00
00:46:45.860 he was thinking. Mike Lindell and I agree on almost everything politically. Mike Lindell
00:46:50.520 is the white version of me. Imagine me running for governor. I mean, you've seen the kind of
00:46:54.640 monkey business in which I traffic in the show chat. Now imagine Mike Lindell doing that on the
00:46:59.640 campaign trail. If I ran for governor, I would win like 10 votes and nine of them would be me
00:47:05.040 voting for myself illegally just to prove a point about election integrity. What do you think the
00:47:10.060 base to President Trump is thinking here? Thank you as always for your wisdom.
00:47:13.920 Great, great question, Arun. I really like Mike Lindell. I don't know him all that well,
00:47:18.440 but I've known him for a relatively long time. I'll tell you what President Trump is thinking.
00:47:23.700 Just reading his, I obviously haven't spoken to the president or anyone at the White House on this,
00:47:26.980 but I think what he's thinking is, one, Trump is loyal. Trump is a loyal guy. When you start to
00:47:33.280 turn on Trump, when you start to contradict Trump or go against him, then he can be brutal. And so
00:47:38.700 people have misinterpreted that, him turning on Thomas Massey or something, as disloyalty.
00:47:43.020 But Massey turned on Trump before Trump turned on Massey. Don't forget, that's true all the time.
00:47:47.560 Trump is a very, very loyal guy, and Mike Lindell has been a big supporter of his.
00:47:52.020 He's, Michael Lindell has sacrificed a lot to defend President Trump.
00:47:54.740 And so I think there's some loyalty there.
00:47:56.920 Two, I think President Trump really admires celebrity.
00:48:02.780 And I think he's right about that in politics.
00:48:05.560 In Pennsylvania, in that Senate race a few years ago, more than a few years ago now,
00:48:10.300 he endorsed Dr. Oz over Dave McCormick.
00:48:12.560 Dave McCormick was probably more conservative than Dr. Oz,
00:48:15.640 but Dr. Oz was a celebrity.
00:48:17.240 And celebrity really matters in politics.
00:48:18.700 you know Washington is Hollywood for ugly people so the fact that Mike Lindell can connect to
00:48:25.280 people that Mike Lindell is this big personality that everyone's heard of has high name ID I think
00:48:29.940 probably President Trump does view that as a as a bonus politically but then three I think that
00:48:36.820 what probably cinched it for him is if the other candidates in that race most of whom you've never
00:48:42.120 heard of well you Arun probably have heard of in Minnesota but most people have not if the other
00:48:46.800 candidates in that race were running neck and neck with the Democrat on a generic ballot or on a
00:48:52.080 general election ballot, then maybe President Trump would not have endorsed Lindell. But they
00:48:56.260 were all running way behind the Democrats. This is Minnesota. Minnesota is the only state that
00:49:00.500 voted for Mondale over Reagan in 1984. Minnesota is pretty true blue. They do occasionally elect
00:49:05.500 Republicans like Tim Pawlenty as governor. But with mass migration, with the turn of Minnesota,
00:49:10.860 you saw it play out with the ICE protests and BLM. I think the odds of a Republican governor
00:49:14.560 in Minnesota are pretty low. And so I think here he's saying, well, the other candidates probably
00:49:19.520 don't have much of a shot. And so why not be loyal and why not make a sort of Hail Mary play
00:49:23.520 with the celebrity Mike Lindell? That's my psychoanalysis of President Trump. And I think
00:49:28.660 I'm right. Next question. Hey, Michael, I'm a huge fan of your show and look forward to listening to
00:49:33.560 it every day. My question for you today has a little bit of a backstory. So please bear with
00:49:38.120 me. My husband and I got married a little over a year ago and we're both strong Protestants at the
00:49:42.660 time. A few months ago, we became Orthodox Presbyterians. However, I've been listening
00:49:47.400 to Catholic podcasts and have become what some call Catholic curious and am now questioning
00:49:52.020 my Protestant beliefs. My husband, on the other hand, has looked into Catholicism and
00:49:56.800 is not convinced of the Church nor its teachings. Therefore, his desire is for both of us to
00:50:01.560 remain faithful Presbyterians. My question for you is how do I remain a faithful wife
00:50:06.380 under my husband's spiritual leadership and authority when I am considering Catholicism
00:50:10.700 but he is against it. Thanks as always. God bless. Really good question. And it can be a
00:50:15.960 tough issue in marriage, but it's not insurmountable and it's actually fairly common.
00:50:19.880 I think that right off the bat, we have to recognize that, yes, it's very good for wives
00:50:25.540 to submit to their husbands. We're told to do this. Now husbands have to love their wives. And 0.68
00:50:29.240 so the marriage is really a complimentary thing. It's less like someone lording over the other
00:50:34.400 person than it is like a waltz. Someone is leading the waltz, but when you're actually
00:50:39.200 dancing the waltz, it's not always clear who's leading. There is a leader of the waltz, but it's
00:50:43.340 not always totally clear because you're one flesh, so you really should be moving in concert together.
00:50:49.580 Now, you have obligations to your husband as he has obligations to you, but you both have
00:50:54.000 obligations to God first, more than you have obligations to each other or to your kids or to
00:50:59.220 your society. So if you believe, as I happen to believe, that the church, the Catholic church,
00:51:05.540 really is the church, is the real church. It contains the fullness of truth, possesses the
00:51:11.480 fullness of truth. Then you really do have an obligation to follow that, an obligation to
00:51:15.560 yourself and an obligation to God. But you don't want to disrespect your husband. You don't want
00:51:19.140 to diss your husband either. And you'd probably want to pull him along. I have a friend who's
00:51:23.060 become a Presbyterian somewhat recently. And what he said to me, he said, I really like
00:51:27.540 Presbyterianism. I love this church, love the pastor, love the liturgy. The only holdup I have
00:51:32.860 is I don't think I believe in Calvinism.
00:51:35.180 And I said, oh, you like the Presbyterian church,
00:51:37.600 but you're not a Calvinist.
00:51:38.600 Boy, oh boy, do I have an option for you.
00:51:41.720 And so anyway, it's not uncommon.
00:51:45.120 Good friends of mine who are very, very serious Catholics,
00:51:48.920 they were Presbyterians for a while,
00:51:50.560 and so that can be kind of a pipeline.
00:51:53.180 In any case, your husband's not convinced yet.
00:51:55.380 That's fine.
00:51:56.580 Maybe he'll never be convinced.
00:51:58.420 But you do have an obligation to God first.
00:52:00.240 And so maybe one way to work through this in a marriage would be for you to seriously pursue Catholicism, go to mass, avail yourself of the sacraments, enroll in OCIA, do all the things.
00:52:15.840 But maybe you also go with your husband to the Protestant service.
00:52:21.920 Maybe you're not totally participating, but you'd go.
00:52:24.280 You don't need to totally diss him or call him a heretic or anything like that.
00:52:27.240 but, you know, while pursuing what you feel to be your calling from God and your religious
00:52:32.920 obligations, you could also, you know, bring him along as well. And you can also, you know,
00:52:39.840 show up if the whole family is going to go to the Presbyterian service, you could at least go,
00:52:43.840 even if you're not totally participating in it. That would be one way. Again, you know,
00:52:48.120 this is a little above my pay grade. I'm not a theologian. I'm not a member of the clergy,
00:52:52.040 but that might be one way to balance those things. But if you believe that religion is more than just
00:52:58.720 a nice thing for the community, if you believe that the church is more than just a social
00:53:04.040 institution, which we all believe, then you can't merely go to a church or adopt a religion
00:53:13.660 for your husband's sake. Take him seriously, but it ultimately is not really about him.
00:53:20.040 it's about God. And so that would be, I think that would be a prudent way to pursue what you
00:53:27.160 feel is your religious calling while not disrespecting your husband. And hopefully
00:53:33.540 bring them along across the Tiber and we'll all have a big party in cigars, Mayflower cigars.
00:53:37.520 Okay. I want to get to more mailbag questions, but we have got to get to the member of segmentum.
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