The Michael Knowles Show - August 21, 2026


Ep. 2043 - Are The Women Alright？ Hundreds Hold Babies In Support Of Child Murderer


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00:01:08.760 300 women gathered outside a Massachusetts courthouse yesterday,
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00:03:33.760 Cardiff, borrow better. The Lindsey Clancy thing, man. Just when you think it's reached the absolute
00:03:41.360 bottom of the pit of degradation and absurdity, it gets worse. Outside of the courthouse yesterday
00:03:48.080 in Massachusetts, 300 plus women rallied in support of Lindsay Clancy. These were not crazy
00:03:57.520 haired women with a bunch of septum piercings. These were not just young radicals. These were
00:04:02.380 women of all ages. And when I say they were women of all normal looking women, like your wife,
00:04:07.940 your mother, normal looking women of all ages, bringing their children, young girls, you can see
00:04:14.320 a girl in the crowd. We have the clip of it, right? You can see a girl in the crowd who's
00:04:18.960 probably, I don't know, 12 or 13. And then you see one woman holding her baby. And all the women
00:04:26.380 holding up little hearts. They're all wearing pink. You can hear babies crying, women holding
00:04:34.200 up hearts for Lindsay. You can hear the audio is a little muffled, but it's about all of us.
00:04:41.960 It's about all of us. And it'd be one thing if it were like an Antifa gathering. It's not.
00:04:46.780 It is your aunt. It's your cousin. It's your wife. It is normal-looking women of all races,
00:04:52.160 of all shapes, of all ages, very serious, very somber, not for the three little kids that
00:04:57.320 Lindsay Clancy murdered, but for the murderer, holding their babies up.
00:05:04.380 There's reporting on this all over the place. Here's just from PBS.
00:05:08.520 Several of the 300 women and a few men said Clancy's story resonated with them and that
00:05:14.360 they wanted to raise awareness about how the mental health system treats women.
00:05:18.640 A lot of people keep asking, what is this about?
00:05:22.540 Why are these women defending Lindsay Clancy?
00:05:25.740 Because now you're getting some of the women podcasters defending Lindsay Clancy.
00:05:30.820 And I think the explanation of why the women podcasters are defending Lindsay Clancy is
00:05:34.840 either they're nuts or that they're just captured by their audience, the audience, which reflects
00:05:39.340 a ton of women who are showing up in real life outside of the courthouse to defend Lindsay
00:05:43.840 Clancy and knowing to figure out what is this about? Are all the women nuts? Do we need to
00:05:47.060 repeal the 19th? Do we need to involuntarily commit these women? Do the women now just defend
00:05:51.800 murder? Are these women sociopaths? Are they on a bunch of SSRIs? They seem to show the SSRIs.
00:05:58.820 They seem to be a little dead behind the old retinas. So what is going on? And I think I've
00:06:03.020 identified the explanation. It's a lot simpler than all of that, and it comes from their own
00:06:07.540 quotes. Here's one quote from one of the women there. This is April Vincent, a 52-year-old
00:06:12.660 paralegal from Providence, Rhode Island. She's not a DSA activist community organizer. She's a
00:06:18.860 paralegal. 52 years old, she says, women are being dismissed, neglected, and ignored when we speak up.
00:06:26.500 We are scared because nobody takes us seriously.
00:06:30.180 Here's another woman, Zaborski.
00:06:33.700 She says, it's very sad.
00:06:35.840 I am a mother.
00:06:36.800 I am a grandmother.
00:06:37.940 This is an older woman.
00:06:38.820 I have a sister who had problems after birth, and it's just very sad.
00:06:42.100 I hope Lindsay gets the care she needs and deserves, and other women will come together like we did today.
00:06:48.600 The key to understanding all of the Lindsay Clancy stuff is in the pronouns.
00:06:54.840 Look at those pronouns.
00:06:55.680 That first woman who is speaking, we, when we speak up, that's the first person plural pronoun.
00:07:03.040 We're scared because nobody takes us seriously.
00:07:06.020 You have three instances of the first person plural pronoun in those two sentences.
00:07:12.080 Not much of a reference to Lindsay Clancy.
00:07:14.600 Not much, not she, not her, not she murdered her kids.
00:07:20.180 Has nothing to do with the victims, the kids.
00:07:21.860 has certainly nothing to do with the poor husband whose wife murdered his whole family.
00:07:26.780 Has nothing to do, has nothing to do with Lindsay Clancy, who admitted to murdering her kids.
00:07:32.660 And murdered, admitted to killing her kids. She said she's not guilty because she doesn't want
00:07:36.040 to have any responsibility for anything. It's all about us. It's all about we, the women.
00:07:40.280 And then this other woman, look at this. I am a mother, one. I am a grandmother, two.
00:07:44.880 I have a sister, three. I hope Lindsay Clancy, four, gets the care she needs and women will
00:07:50.860 come together like we did today. Five examples of the first person pronoun in a couple of sentences.
00:07:57.840 What this is all about, the reason that women are defending Lindsay Clancy,
00:08:03.600 is to get attention. It is to get the attention that they feel that they deserve. It is entirely
00:08:10.540 about them. It has nothing to do with Lindsay Clancy. This is the most charitable read that
00:08:16.000 I can give on this because there's another read, which is, I was talking about it yesterday,
00:08:19.880 which is that 50% of American women support killing their own babies through abortion.
00:08:25.260 So clearly there's a little emotional blunting going on here. But I think the charitable read
00:08:30.140 and the most accurate read is this actually has nothing to do with Lindsey Clancy. It's all about
00:08:33.640 them. They're interested in true crime. They're interested in soap operas. They're interested
00:08:39.460 in defending this horrific woman, not because they actually want to make an argument
00:08:44.900 in defense of murdering your own kids. It's because they just want attention. They just
00:08:50.860 want attention. Sometimes the simplest psychological explanation actually is
00:08:56.160 the most accurate explanation. They want attention. Their husbands don't pay them
00:09:01.460 enough attention when they're going through postpartum depression. Their husbands don't
00:09:05.200 pay them enough attention when they're taking care of their kids. And it's hard. It's really
00:09:08.620 hard to be a mother. And I don't think that women have postpartum depression for eight months,
00:09:12.940 as Lindsay Clancy is describing. And I don't think that that explains or in any way excuses
00:09:17.780 or justifies her killing her kids. But I do think that a lot of women want attention.
00:09:24.760 And in some cases, it's tough being a woman. It's tough being a mother.
00:09:28.820 But I think that's what it is. Me, me, me, me, me. Look at me. Look at me, me, me. It's all
00:09:32.580 about me. I work so hard. I'm so put upon. I don't get. And to some degree, you sympathize
00:09:39.720 with these women, but they take it to this extreme where they are now, I think inadvertently
00:09:46.940 justifying a woman who murdered her kids. But it's really about them. And the proof that it's
00:09:51.800 about them is they're only talking about themselves. There's all this horror, the girl
00:09:57.020 power. It's trying to focus the attention away from the victims, away from the perpetrator even
00:10:02.300 to them. They just want attention and we're giving it to them. But this has been an evolution
00:10:09.680 of my political thought as I've worked in politics since I was a teenager. I'll give an
00:10:15.440 example on abortion because it's a little clearer there. When I was a young man, I grew up in New
00:10:19.540 York. I was surrounded by liberals. I basically had never met a pro-life or I'd never really been
00:10:24.040 exposed to any kind of pro-life arguments. So when I was a teenager, when I was, I'm ashamed
00:10:28.660 to admit, when I was a libertarian and I was pro-abortion, I saw nothing wrong. I just didn't
00:10:33.640 understand what the argument was against abortion. When I was that young teenage libertarian,
00:10:38.920 I attributed abortion politics mostly to psychology.
00:10:43.240 I thought, as the left told me since I was in diapers, that pro-lifers just hated women.
00:10:49.860 And that psychological explanation was really what abortion politics was about.
00:10:55.180 As I got older and I became more conservative and I became more religious
00:10:58.360 and I thought more deeply about political philosophy,
00:11:00.980 I thought about abortion primarily as a matter of ideology,
00:11:03.980 as a showdown between the liberal idol of personal autonomy on the one hand
00:11:10.660 and the conservative observation of an objective moral order on the other.
00:11:14.800 And I thought, okay, abortion politics is really about this fundamental conflict
00:11:18.840 between first principles when it comes to political ideology.
00:11:21.640 But I tell you what, the older I get, the more deeply I consider political philosophy,
00:11:27.720 the more I live in the world, I am returning to the psychological explanation.
00:11:32.880 I now think when it comes to abortion, most of abortion politics is explained by guilt.
00:11:39.320 I think a lot of women, what is it, one in four women, one in four or one in five women at some point has an abortion in their lives.
00:11:44.440 And they know it's wrong because the natural law is inscribed on every human heart.
00:11:48.920 And so they know deep down that it's wrong and they feel a lot of guilt for it.
00:11:52.540 And rather than coming to grips with that and repenting and asking for forgiveness, which is available to them thanks to God,
00:11:58.740 rather than doing that, they have to come up with these ex post facto rationalizations for
00:12:03.440 abortion. I actually think the psychology explains a lot more of the political view.
00:12:07.660 And I think a similar phenomenon is going on here. These women don't know anything about
00:12:12.860 the Lindsay Clancy case. They're not seriously considering murder. They're not even really
00:12:17.160 thinking, they're certainly not thinking of their own children. They just want attention.
00:12:20.180 They're thinking about themselves and they know that it's real tough being a mom and it's real
00:12:23.700 tough being a woman and they want to get attention for all the difficulties they go through. I think
00:12:27.120 that's what it is. And it's a reminder that when my friend Ben Shapiro says facts don't care about
00:12:31.480 your feelings, he's right about that. He is right about that. But in politics, politics almost
00:12:37.420 exclusively cares about your feelings, and people are feeling creatures. And women, they're a little
00:12:42.700 more swayed by their feelings than men are more of the time. That's what explains it. That's what
00:12:47.720 it's about. They want attention, and we're giving them attention. Okay, speaking of crazy women,
00:12:51.820 Some lady in New York just tried to blow up the New York state capital,
00:12:56.860 just tried to blow up Albany and blow up a bunch of lawmakers
00:13:00.660 because she converted to Islam and has embraced ISIS.
00:13:05.640 This is like a 35-year-old white lady.
00:13:07.800 What's going on with the women?
00:13:09.020 I'll tell you what's going on.
00:13:09.760 I actually don't think that story is about women at all.
00:13:11.660 I don't even think it's really about Islam.
00:13:13.980 I think the story, which is breaking now,
00:13:15.960 it just happened, FBI foils ISIS plot to blow up the New York state capital.
00:13:19.960 I think it's actually about the American left.
00:13:23.280 And I think it's about Hassan Piker, basically.
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00:14:43.320 By the way, if you want women to break down the Lindsay Clancy story, I just sat down with a few
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00:15:52.800 Okay, so there was a terror attack,
00:15:55.480 almost a terror attack.
00:15:56.600 It was foiled by the FBI up in New York.
00:15:58.480 Kash Patel just posted about it.
00:16:00.460 Thanks to the brilliant work of FBI Albany and our partners,
00:16:03.480 the FBI stopped yet another alleged terror attack.
00:16:06.480 Last night, the FBI arrested an individual who allegedly swore allegiance to ISIS and
00:16:11.260 planned to carry this attack out on the New York state capitol.
00:16:13.880 She wanted to destroy as much of the building as possible and kill the senators while they
00:16:17.780 were meeting.
00:16:18.600 Now, what's strange is you'd expect this woman's name to be like Aisha Aisha Mohammed Mohammed
00:16:22.780 Hijab or something, but it's not.
00:16:24.980 Her name is Jessica Bowie.
00:16:26.760 She's a 35-year-old white lady.
00:16:29.120 How does a regular white lady in New York become radicalized by ISIS?
00:16:34.500 and then apparently she planned to move to Syria
00:16:37.280 after she blew up the New York State Capitol.
00:16:40.000 This woman, I was just hearing about the story this morning.
00:16:43.460 Professor Jacob alerted me to it
00:16:45.640 and he very uncharitably dubbed her Hijab of the Hut.
00:16:49.640 It's very, I would not do such,
00:16:51.020 she's kind of a bigger woman and she's wearing a hijab
00:16:53.800 and he called, anyway, he called her Hijab of the Hut.
00:16:55.900 What's going on here?
00:16:56.860 Is this a dovetail to the Lindsay Clancy story?
00:16:59.620 Are women just totally nuts now?
00:17:02.760 I don't think that's totally it.
00:17:03.680 Is it purely about Islam? Islam is on the brink of taking over America,
00:17:07.540 and even the 35-year-old white ladies are converting. I don't think it's really about
00:17:11.940 that. I think the key to this story is in a line that you see in some of the reporting.
00:17:17.600 One, she is a frequent social media user. The nuttiest women and the nuttiest men
00:17:23.520 are the most online. That's just a fact. They are just, when you are drawn into this virtual
00:17:29.620 sort of mind-bending ecosystem that is a distortion of a perversion of sometimes an
00:17:36.820 inversion of reality. You start to go nuts. The way that people went trans five years ago was
00:17:41.900 that they just got sucked into weird social media sites. We've done a number of interviews
00:17:45.880 on this show about that. The way people get radicalized politically is almost exclusively
00:17:49.900 online on the left and the right, but it's more pronounced on the left. So she's a frequent social
00:17:53.940 media user. Okay, that makes sense. And this is the key quote. She says that she went from being
00:18:00.360 a little girl waving the American flag after September 11th to having stickers of the falling
00:18:07.140 towers to celebrating September 11th. How did that happen? The way that happened involves online
00:18:15.920 radicalization, but it's not just a fringe incident. It's not just a one-off. What she is
00:18:21.340 describing is what the most prominent thought leader on the left is doing himself. This reminds
00:18:29.020 me immediately of Hassan Piker. Hassan Piker, who is this rich kid who's an anchor baby. He was born
00:18:35.320 here, but then he grew up in Turkey. He comes back here. He becomes the darling of the left-wing
00:18:39.680 new media and establishment media. The New York Times is running all sorts of pieces about him.
00:18:44.760 He's campaigning with the major Democrat candidates for very high offices. Hassan Piker, who said
00:18:49.080 America deserves 9-11, and who just a month ago debuted a new set piece right behind him on his
00:18:55.840 set is a newspaper reporting on September 11th. The difference between Hijab of the Hut or Jessica
00:19:04.340 Bowie and Hassan Piker is nil. The only difference is that Hassan Piker is kind of famous and Jessica
00:19:10.780 Bowie also now is kind of famous, though she wasn't yesterday. That's the only difference.
00:19:14.920 it would be very easy to say okay the fbi foils another islamic terror attack yeah you know that
00:19:20.860 happens but you know we've been doing that for decades now and there's some fringe wackos
00:19:24.280 everywhere aren't there oh and it was weird as a white lady who converted yeah it's kind of weird
00:19:28.160 but there are fringe wackos everywhere aren't there it's just the difference is that her behavior
00:19:33.800 her ideology is indistinguishable from the most prominent people on the left it's not just that
00:19:41.240 the fringe people are violent, but the mainstream people are not. Hassan Piker called to murder two
00:19:44.780 US senators and wants the streets to run red in capitalist blood. And he says all the same things
00:19:50.200 that this woman says. He has the same stickers. This is not chiefly about women. This is not
00:19:58.620 chiefly about some psychotic woman in particular. This is not even chiefly about Islam. This is
00:20:03.960 about the mainstream American left, which has been radicalized and is radicalizing many other
00:20:09.920 people against the United States. If you took a poll of the DSA members in a moment of candor,
00:20:17.280 or if you just look at the honest, forthright thought leaders on the left, like Hassan Piker,
00:20:21.800 credit where credit's due, you would realize they support this woman. They support blowing
00:20:26.440 up the New York State Capitol. They support ISIS. They think America deserved 9-11.
00:20:31.680 No difference here. So good on the FBI. I'm glad you caught this woman. I'm glad that the
00:20:35.480 lawmakers in New York didn't get blown up. But you haven't solved the problem.
00:20:39.920 That is a tiny little symptom of a deep rot
00:20:43.920 that goes all the way down to the center
00:20:45.780 of the Democrat Party and the American left.
00:20:47.500 Okay, now speaking of Islamic takeovers,
00:20:50.400 the UK is trying to do something about this.
00:20:52.100 The UK, our brothers in the motherland,
00:20:54.860 our elder brothers in the political tradition
00:20:56.600 are dealing with this much more acutely than we are.
00:20:59.240 They have really been Islamified in the UK
00:21:01.120 and it's causing all sorts of social problems
00:21:02.980 like murders and rapes
00:21:04.620 and a two-tiered system of justice.
00:21:06.060 And so the UK is trying to do something about it
00:21:08.080 and the way that they've decided to do something about it,
00:21:09.920 they've issued a guide. This is so British. They don't have their cops carrying guns. They're not
00:21:16.400 shooting terrorists in the street. They're not arresting the criminals. They're not deporting
00:21:19.460 people. They've just issued a little bit of a guide, you know, just a little bit of a handout.
00:21:24.000 So just maybe, you know, just maybe give it a little read if you don't mind. If you speak
00:21:27.360 English, I'll be fine. It's called Understanding Behaviors and Expectations in the United Kingdom,
00:21:33.520 A Guide for Asylum Seekers. This comes from the home office. It's almost unbelievable. Like I
00:21:39.280 didn't, I didn't totally believe it when I saw it. I thought it was a meme, but no. So the first
00:21:46.840 one, gender equality in the UK, men and women have equal rights. And then it goes on, you know,
00:21:51.640 here's how they do. Women are allowed to do this. And what is expected of you? So this is the guy,
00:21:55.140 this is immediately responding to a problem caused by the Muslim migrants. What is expected
00:21:59.900 of you? Everyone in the UK is expected to treat men and women equally. Even if you're a family
00:22:03.700 member, like a husband, father, or brother, you must never stop a woman from working or studying
00:22:07.860 control what a woman wears or where she goes,
00:22:09.640 stop a woman from seeing friends or family,
00:22:12.240 make decisions for a woman without her agreement.
00:22:14.960 Look, even if she's your sister,
00:22:17.060 you can't honor kill her
00:22:18.140 because she walked out without her hijab.
00:22:20.320 You're just not,
00:22:20.880 so I know different cultural expectations.
00:22:23.740 I don't want to,
00:22:24.200 we don't want to judge too much,
00:22:25.920 you know, but you're not allowed.
00:22:27.260 Please just consider not honor killing your sister, please.
00:22:30.420 Next one, domestic abuse.
00:22:32.460 What is expected of you?
00:22:34.280 You're expected to treat your partner
00:22:36.180 and family with respect,
00:22:37.680 Let them control their own choices.
00:22:38.920 Never physically or verbally abuse or control them.
00:22:40.960 So just what we expect.
00:22:42.360 And you know, no one's going to get it right all the time, right?
00:22:44.640 You know, but we're going to give it a shot.
00:22:48.160 We just would prefer if you would maybe consider not beating your wife
00:22:51.860 or your daughter or your sister.
00:22:53.440 If you wouldn't, just pull the blows back just a little bit.
00:22:56.280 So that's domestic abuse.
00:22:57.420 And then we have sex and consent.
00:22:58.940 What is expected of you?
00:23:00.000 You're expected to always make sure the other person freely and clearly agrees to sex
00:23:03.820 or sexual contact.
00:23:05.480 Never use threat, force, or pressure to make someone have sex.
00:23:07.960 Never try to have sex with someone who is asleep.
00:23:11.220 Verbatim, verbatim.
00:23:12.380 Never try to have sex with someone who's asleep, drunk, or unable to consent.
00:23:15.560 Clearly, stop if they say no or change their mind.
00:23:18.340 They also have a legal age of consent here.
00:23:19.820 Legal age of consent is 16.
00:23:21.140 Apparently, the Muslims, well, we know this from the grooming gangs,
00:23:24.720 Pakistani rape gang scandal.
00:23:26.300 They were raping children.
00:23:27.560 So they say, you know, the age of consent is 16.
00:23:29.140 Just try to keep it to 16-year-olds and up.
00:23:31.180 And if you wouldn't mind, don't have sex with women who are asleep.
00:23:34.060 and please if you just if you might consider not doing so much raping that would be really
00:23:40.120 just chipper wouldn't that be yeah thanks if just thanks take it under consideration please
00:23:45.200 this is so british it's delightful in a way i'm a very anglophilic i like the civilized
00:23:52.300 polite manner of the english but while this is the most british way to fix the problem
00:23:59.520 they're not fixing a British problem. That's the real problem. They're using British means
00:24:04.760 to fix an Islamic problem. But the Muslims and the Pakistanis, they don't play by the British
00:24:12.780 rules. They're different. This is why we shouldn't have mass migration, because different peoples
00:24:17.900 have different habits and religion and language, and it just doesn't really work.
00:24:24.920 So the British are fully living up to who they are.
00:24:28.200 It's one of the things we love about them.
00:24:30.420 Oh, yes, right.
00:24:31.080 Sorry.
00:24:31.420 Yeah, maybe.
00:24:31.960 Would you just mind a little bit?
00:24:33.220 Maybe just pulling back on the rape a little bit, please?
00:24:35.880 Yeah.
00:24:36.500 You think about that?
00:24:37.260 Just thanks.
00:24:38.620 But you're not going to fix this problem the British way.
00:24:42.840 And I fear it's going to be too late at a certain point.
00:24:46.900 You're not going to fix some of the problems of mass migration
00:24:50.240 the American way either.
00:24:52.520 We Americans, we're a little more violent.
00:24:55.080 We're a little bit rougher.
00:24:56.160 We're a little bit more blunt.
00:24:57.960 We're not so, you know, tawny and clubbable as the British.
00:25:02.760 But you're not going to fix a lot of these problems the American way either.
00:25:06.280 This is, in fact, why people elected a guy like Trump.
00:25:09.960 Trump is an aberration in many ways from the American political tradition.
00:25:14.340 He's also the fulfillment of the American political tradition.
00:25:16.680 He's kind of like our Napoleon.
00:25:18.000 He's a child of the revolution, but he's the undoing of the revolution.
00:25:20.640 but they elected Trump for a very specific reason. They elected Trump because George H.W. Bush was
00:25:26.120 not a man for this time. George H.W. Bush is a great guy. He's a great man. I know the opinions
00:25:31.880 on the Bush family have declined in recent years, but just as a matter of character,
00:25:36.420 George H.W. Bush is the archetype of a certain kind of American man. He wears his J-press suits.
00:25:44.240 He doesn't brag. He's very restrained. He's the wasp. He's the last of the wasps.
00:25:50.640 And that was so great. That's one of the things we love about the American tradition.
00:25:54.720 But those days are kind of over because of mass migration, because of a decay of the culture.
00:26:00.920 It just didn't, we're past that now. And for these days, people voted for Trump because we feel like
00:26:06.680 we need a guy like Trump, who's a little rougher, who's a little tougher, who's a little, he exercises
00:26:11.700 authority a little bit more. He's a little more blunt. He's a little more vulgar. He's a little
00:26:15.400 more crude. He's more a man for this time. And the problems keep coming. Trump, he's fighting
00:26:24.920 against all odds at a very, very late hour. But it's just simply a fact. You're not going to fix
00:26:30.680 foreign problems with purely American solutions in the UK, with purely British solutions.
00:26:39.000 You have to respond to the real problems. You have to respond to changing circumstances.
00:26:43.960 That's what politics is. Okay. And we can see where the problems are really originating. And
00:26:49.980 it's really not even chiefly the Muslims. The Muslims haven't changed. They haven't changed
00:26:54.020 in 1400 years. What has changed is our reaction to them. What has changed is that liberalism has
00:27:00.720 corroded and eroded our society like an acid. And so now we have to come up with new ways to
00:27:08.000 deal with this. But it does come from leftism. That woman's radicalization came from leftism.
00:27:12.900 It didn't come because she studied in a madrasa.
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00:29:53.960 Conditions or exclusions apply. Woke one was crazy, says AOC. But woke two, that's very different.
00:30:02.280 woke two they won't tell you exactly how it differs they won't tell you what about woke one
00:30:07.900 they're distancing themselves from but they said woke one was great all the stuff you hated about
00:30:12.680 woke one forget about it woke two it's just we just want to give people health care here is a
00:30:17.500 viral performance of drag queens mocking the murder of charlie kirk trump there we got another
00:30:27.780 one with trump looks like he's got kind of blood or something coming out of his mouth
00:30:31.100 drag queens dancing you have i actually don't know it's a black drag queen i can't tell if
00:30:40.060 that's like a okay here we then this is the one this is charlie with blood coming out of his neck
00:30:46.580 and down his shirt as they dance okay woke one was crazy woke one was crazy we just want to
00:30:55.880 give people health care. The question you have to ask when AOC says, Woke One was crazy, is how was
00:31:01.600 it crazy? And she won't answer. Was it crazy because they were transing the kids? Well, no,
00:31:06.180 they still support that. Was it crazy because they wanted open borders? No, they still support that.
00:31:09.360 Was it crazy because they would get you fired from your job if you were a white guy? And if
00:31:13.340 you wouldn't wear the mask? And if you wouldn't take their experimental drug? No, no, they still
00:31:17.300 support all that. Was Woke One crazy because the left supported political violence against
00:31:22.460 conservatives that culminated in the very near assassination of President Trump and the
00:31:26.620 successful assassination of our top political organizer, Charlie Kirk? No. Have the numbers
00:31:32.140 on the left's support, vastly outsized support of political violence, have they changed? Have
00:31:37.500 they gone down at all? No. No. They say they just want to give you healthcare.
00:31:43.840 that is such a lie it it is disproven every day by all of their actions but that has always been
00:31:53.280 true of socialism one of the big errors that people make when they think about socialism
00:31:57.620 or communism is they think it's primarily economic it's not socialism and communism
00:32:03.480 are ultimately spiritual ideas spiritual ideologies perversions of christianity inversions
00:32:10.660 of Christianity. They're very, very dark. They come from Karl Marx saying he wants the ruthless
00:32:14.820 criticism of all that exists. It comes from him quoting Goethe's Faust, who says that everything
00:32:19.960 that exists deserves to perish. What it comes down to is ultimately resentment and envy.
00:32:28.060 They say they just want to raise a little bit of money from really rich New Yorkers.
00:32:31.880 When Zoran Mamdani implements that policy, he includes not just 31,000 New Yorkers,
00:32:37.060 includes a million New Yorkers, and he doxes them to mobs that are already very violent following
00:32:41.080 in the wake of Luigi Mangione, who murders Brian Thompson, a perfectly innocent husband, father.
00:32:46.220 He just happened to be a healthcare CEO. He was murdered in cold blood, and the left supported
00:32:50.620 him. That's what it's about. They want to kill you. It's the Lindsey Clancy phenomenon
00:32:59.460 across an entire political movement. That's what's going on.
00:33:06.460 Oh, Woke 1.0 was crazy? Oh, you just want to give people healthcare? Hey, what do you think
00:33:11.420 about that drag queen performance where they're mocking the murder of Charlie Kirk? Why aren't
00:33:15.600 you answering? Where are you going? Where are you going? How was Woke 1 crazy? What was crazy about
00:33:20.900 it? Where are you going? I think we all know the answer. Okay, now speaking of wokeness,
00:33:26.140 it really never went away. It lay dormant. They're trying to bide their time until they
00:33:30.440 can get political power after the midterms. But there was a meme going around yesterday.
00:33:34.860 It was another one I didn't believe, so I had to check it out myself.
00:33:38.120 If you're on Google right now, if you're sitting at your desk listening to this,
00:33:42.180 just pull up Google. If you're driving, pull over. You can wait until you get to wherever
00:33:46.320 you're going. But just pull this up. Google, I am alone with a black person.
00:33:52.980 When you Google, I'm alone with a black person,
00:33:55.120 here is what AI, Gemini, Google's AI system comes up with.
00:33:59.780 Being alone with a black person is a normal everyday situation.
00:34:03.140 Treat them like any other human being by relaxing,
00:34:05.060 being polite, and talking normally.
00:34:06.760 Race does not change how, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:34:09.540 Then Google, I'm alone with a white person.
00:34:13.780 Do we have it?
00:34:15.040 Yeah, I'm alone with a white person.
00:34:16.400 AI, Gemini, Google overview.
00:34:18.560 If you feel unsafe or uncomfortable right now,
00:34:21.220 please let me know or find a safe public space if you'd like tell me are you feeling unsafe or
00:34:26.860 threatened in this situation what is the setting you're in right now i can help you figure out
00:34:31.240 what to do or how to get help i'm alone with a black person that's normal it's totally normal
00:34:38.060 what's wrong with you are you racist why are you why are you telling me that i'm alone with a white
00:34:42.580 person run you know because of those notoriously physically violent white people right okay so
00:34:49.960 what does this tell us? It doesn't tell us a lot about crime statistics, but what it tells us about
00:34:53.720 is that woke never went away. All of the hideous and false racial assumptions that went along with
00:35:03.180 woke are still there. And this is the crucial part. They are still being promoted by the most
00:35:10.060 powerful people on earth, by the most powerful companies on earth, by the most powerful politicians
00:35:16.040 on earth, who right now are in the minority party, but they're poised to come back into
00:35:20.200 the majority, at least in the House of Representatives, maybe in the Senate. We'll
00:35:22.960 see how the governor's races go. It's all still there. And they want to kill you. And they want
00:35:29.960 drag queens to jiggle around and dance and make fun of your murder while hundreds of them cheer
00:35:35.700 and dance. Nothing has changed. So the question you have to ask, I know Republicans are really
00:35:43.080 worried about the midterms because the MAGA coalition seems to have shrunk. The poll numbers
00:35:46.420 are not looking good. In part, this is because the economic progress that we were seeing in the
00:35:49.820 first part of the Trump administration, massive new investment in America, $17 trillion new
00:35:54.020 investment in America. You saw some good returns from the tariff plan until unfortunately the
00:36:00.480 Supreme Court struck down 75% of the tariffs. You saw pretty good numbers on the deportations.
00:36:05.420 What is it? About a million and a half deportations formally so far with some self-deportations as
00:36:09.360 well. Numbers that still don't take a huge chunk out of the problem, but they're very impressive
00:36:14.340 for a year and a half into the administration. You saw all this good stuff, record high stock
00:36:18.140 market, all this stuff. The Iran war slowed a lot of that down. And you can debate the Iran war,
00:36:23.200 but that has diminished Republican enthusiasm for the midterms. And you say, ah, Trump should
00:36:30.260 have deported more people. I don't like his Iran policy. I get it. Whatever. Yeah, we all have
00:36:38.920 criticisms. I get it. The thing that impelled people to the polls to vote for Trump in 2024
00:36:46.960 was the left. That the left had lost the common sense. That the left had become violent. That the
00:36:54.360 left had upended our political norms. That the left was prosecuting the leader of the opposition
00:36:58.460 party four different times, trying to get him removed from the ballot. That the left, in other
00:37:02.700 words, posed an existential political threat to our system. That's what got you to the polls in
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00:40:44.340 We'll see how it goes. This is from Alex Yeager, 7995. Michael, you have no idea
00:40:47.540 how much money I would pay to see you debate Hassan Piker. Yeah, maybe we should. I'm really
00:40:53.400 torn on this. Let me know in the comments if we should propose a debate with Hassan Piker. I'm
00:40:57.300 torn. You know, I think I've met Hassan Piker before. I think we've done like little local
00:41:00.580 TV stuff before. I think he and I were at Politicon many, this was all many years ago
00:41:05.320 before he became really prominent
00:41:07.460 and before he became really
00:41:10.880 the thought leader of the left.
00:41:12.180 I'm really torn on whether or not
00:41:13.860 to invite Hassan Piker to a debate,
00:41:15.440 a bar fight or something like that,
00:41:16.680 because I'm all for debating people,
00:41:20.100 but I'm not a free speech absolutist.
00:41:22.420 And I think that some things
00:41:24.560 are beyond the realm of debate.
00:41:26.900 I think that speech can be perverted
00:41:28.880 to undermine free speech.
00:41:30.840 My conclusion after Charlie was murdered
00:41:33.640 was something I've been thinking for a long time,
00:41:35.920 which is that you can't have an open marketplace of ideas
00:41:38.460 when bandits keep shooting up the marketplace.
00:41:40.280 So the people who are using the First Amendment
00:41:42.800 to undermine the First Amendment,
00:41:44.300 the people who are threatening violence,
00:41:45.800 the people who are using the heckler's veto,
00:41:49.740 the people who are disrupting our whole system,
00:41:52.400 they should be excluded from it.
00:41:53.740 So really, I think Hassan Piker should be imprisoned
00:41:56.360 or deported or both.
00:41:58.200 I don't really think he should be entertained for a debate.
00:42:00.700 However, there is the political reality
00:42:02.740 that he is the intellectual leader of the left right now.
00:42:05.160 He is the intellectual leader of the Democrat Party.
00:42:07.180 So maybe he should come for a debate.
00:42:08.540 I don't know, I'm torn.
00:42:09.400 I'm really, let me know.
00:42:10.260 Let me know if you think
00:42:11.160 I should invite Hassan Piker for a debate.
00:42:15.340 I'm torn, I'm torn on it, okay?
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00:42:35.100 Hey, Michael.
00:42:36.080 I'm a young, straight, white Christian guy,
00:42:37.820 so, you know, basically Hitler.
00:42:39.520 And there's a line of thought that's often espoused
00:42:41.640 in my niche internet circle.
00:42:43.460 And no, I'm not talking about the Graeber circle.
00:42:46.060 Where the common ethos is,
00:42:47.480 if my principles do not guide me
00:42:49.140 or actively betray me in self-preservation,
00:42:51.640 then what good are my principles?
00:42:53.660 I see the US falling into this exact issue.
00:42:56.300 We're all familiar with the communist subversion
00:42:58.320 in all our major institutions,
00:42:59.520 but are simultaneously bound to inaction through things like freedom of speech, or in other cases, religion.
00:43:05.440 Shout out Professor Jacob for teaching me about Medina.
00:43:07.500 Is this a matter of lacking the political will, or of political capital?
00:43:10.700 I struggle with the concept of extending our principles to those we would consider enemies of US civilization,
00:43:16.300 and cannot for the life of me understand the inaction against groups like Antifa,
00:43:19.880 who threaten people's lives with impunity.
00:43:21.740 The law, as you say, is a teacher, and that teacher seems to be long since absent.
00:43:26.560 Okay, good question. There's a lot in there, but I think what you're asking is,
00:43:32.120 should we throw out American principles? Because as we have applied those principles,
00:43:41.360 they have posed an existential threat to the country. There's a classic maxim of political
00:43:46.520 philosophy, which is that the man who saves his country violates no law. That the ultimate law
00:43:52.820 is the good, the flourishing, the health of the people. So-
00:43:56.560 Does, is the problem our principles? And I would say, no. The problem is not that we have principles
00:44:05.500 when we should throw them out. The problem is that we misunderstand our principles.
00:44:10.080 So there's this kind of debate. Do we just, do we shred the constitution? You know,
00:44:14.280 that was just a mistake. Throw it all out. Doesn't work. Or do we, you know,
00:44:20.740 give total free speech rights to people who are shooting up universities?
00:44:25.040 No, the problem is that we misunderstand our principles.
00:44:28.200 We want to follow true principles.
00:44:31.280 And we can come to true political principles in part through our reason and in part through our political experience and tradition because our stock of reason is relatively small.
00:44:41.060 So I wouldn't say that the fact that people keep attacking conservative speakers at universities is why we should throw out the First Amendment.
00:44:50.660 I would say that we need to understand the First Amendment because the First Amendment doesn't protect that.
00:44:54.220 the fact that America has taken in immigrants over the years does not mean that we need to
00:44:59.900 throw out the American political tradition when it comes to immigrants. It's that we need to
00:45:03.940 understand it because for a lot of American history, we haven't really taken in any immigrants
00:45:07.620 at all. We're not a nation of immigrants. We should not have open borders. We are a real
00:45:12.980 nation. John Jay writes about this beautifully in Federalist No. 2, among many other framers
00:45:17.180 and founders of our country. No, there are limits to what it means to be an American.
00:45:23.040 A lot of what we think of now as our principles is just a liberal retconning from the latter part of the 20th century.
00:45:29.720 So when we return to a more authoritative, tougher, classical conception of politics, it's not that we're throwing out our American principles.
00:45:38.240 It's that we're recovering those American principles.
00:45:40.360 Okay, next question.
00:45:42.560 Hey, Michael.
00:45:43.800 My husband's father passed away last year, and in his honor, my husband's going to be in a sanctioned Muay Thai kickboxing fight.
00:45:51.380 he's been training. His ring name that he's chosen is Sanctus. And yes, that would be from
00:45:59.420 the Trisagion prayer. Hopefully I'm pronouncing that right. Anyway, we have three kids and he's
00:46:05.220 41. So I'm just a little nervous. He is very good. I just don't want him to get hurt. But also
00:46:10.640 very supportive because it's something he's always wanted to do. And it's for in honor of his dad.
00:46:17.660 And also, now he listens to you.
00:46:20.800 I have been a fan for a long time and sent another voicemail back.
00:46:24.240 And now he is, he's listening with me.
00:46:27.080 Whoop, whoop.
00:46:27.640 All right.
00:46:28.040 Thanks.
00:46:28.880 Okay.
00:46:29.240 Good, good prompt.
00:46:30.720 Good husband.
00:46:31.520 Clearly, you as well.
00:46:32.760 You're both clearly have excellent, excellent taste and judgment and discernment.
00:46:38.240 So the question is, should my husband do this Muay Thai kickboxing match?
00:46:44.460 Condolences, obviously.
00:46:45.480 Sorry to hear about his father.
00:46:46.820 Um, yeah, yeah, that sounds, that sounds cool. It sounds cool. The real underlying question here is
00:46:53.780 when a man has responsibilities, should he do cool things? Should he take risks? You could
00:47:00.580 apply your question just as much to should, should a husband and a father quit his stable job to start
00:47:06.080 a company? It's really the same question. You're taking on risk and that risk will fall in some way
00:47:12.260 to your family. So should the guy do it? And the answer is, yeah, you got to take risks. This is
00:47:17.120 life. You can't just kick back and be a couch potato and give up on everything. That would be
00:47:22.020 bad and scandalous for your family too. You just don't want to be reckless. So I guess a way to
00:47:28.000 frame it would be there is a different answer to the question of should your husband do the
00:47:35.060 kickboxing match or should I do the kick? I should not go in and fight a professional kickboxer
00:47:40.560 because I will die, and then my family will go hungry. So I should not do it.
00:47:45.820 Your husband, it sounds like, is like a big gig of Chad and has been training at this and really
00:47:49.680 wants to do it, and he's taking it very seriously. So if he's been trained, then yeah, he should do
00:47:53.800 it. That sounds cool, unless he's going to die, in which case he shouldn't do it. This is just,
00:47:58.680 this is really a matter of prudence. But yeah, guys got to take risks. It's great that you say,
00:48:02.600 I support my husband in this. Because a nagging wife, man, it's like, what does Proverbs say?
00:48:07.520 it's like a leaky roof. You know, it really can, it can ruin your life. I mean, it can really just
00:48:11.300 mess it up. And so you don't want to hold your husband back from things that he should be doing
00:48:14.760 and risks he should be taking. You know, that, that's good. You have the right attitude. Sounds
00:48:18.480 like your husband has the right attitude. If he needs a corner man, I'm, you know, I am a sort
00:48:23.200 of legendary corner man for Smile and Sam Alvey at Karate Combat, but you can send that in next
00:48:27.660 week. Okay. Next question. Michael, I have a burning question as a young Catholic mom of three.
00:48:32.940 My husband is probably going to hear your answer before me when he listens to your show on his
00:48:36.280 drive to work. I've been delving into daily Mass with all three kids in tow. I have a 10-month-old
00:48:41.300 girl, two-year-old boy, and four-year-old girl. Two is always tough, but my boy is an absolute
00:48:46.040 bulldozer. If he gets too disruptive, I obviously take him out of church, but in terms of using the
00:48:50.940 kneelers, asking me questions, brief tantrums that are resolved quickly, I don't. I want to hear your
00:48:55.280 take on kids during the Catholic Mass. Are they to be seen and not heard, or if the church isn't
00:48:59.700 crying, it's dying? The elderly congregation has mixed opinions. Thanks. Yes, the answer to your
00:49:05.460 questions is yes. The only physical training I get, I don't do Muay Thai or kickboxing or anything,
00:49:11.740 but I do wrestle my children every Sunday at mass. So I'm familiar with your problem.
00:49:17.340 Yeah, there's two solutions to this that people offer. Once again, you know, virtue is the median
00:49:22.800 between two extremes, as St. John Henry Newman would point out to us, as Aristotle would point
00:49:26.880 out to us. So the two extremes are, don't take the kid to mass, or if you have the kid to mass,
00:49:32.500 take them to a cry room, which a lot of like modern, suburban, hideous churches have.
00:49:36.880 So just essentially remove the kid from mass the whole time. Or let the kid shriek and scream
00:49:42.220 during the consecration and the homily, and just everyone has to deal with it.
00:49:46.620 But the middle ground is, no, no, no. I'm very anti-cry room. I'm very anti-sending kids
00:49:52.600 somewhere else during mass. I think you need to train them from a young age to be in mass.
00:49:56.700 that's very important to shape their souls and their behavior. But you can't let them just
00:50:03.020 shriek and ruin the mess for everybody. Not ruin the mess, but make it very difficult to
00:50:07.520 concentrate. So what you have to do is let them ask a question or something and then say,
00:50:13.700 stop it. Be quiet. When they start lying down on the kneeler, you got to lift them up,
00:50:17.880 put them back in their seat. And when the two-year-old starts crying, you let it go for
00:50:21.700 about three to five seconds and then you remove him to the back and your husband has to sit with
00:50:28.560 the rest of the kids or the eldest has to watch or what and you just have to do that you just have
00:50:33.220 to play that game the whole mass and it is distracting for you but it is it is this via
00:50:39.020 media between you want you need the kids to be in mass you should have the kids in mass because
00:50:44.240 there's no obligation and you you want to be respectful because it's this is the house of god
00:50:51.700 It's even like people sometimes, how should I dress for church? And there are these two
00:50:55.640 radical extremes, which is, you know, God takes us as we are and you can wear flip-flops and yoga
00:51:01.220 pants. And it's like, whatever, man, stop being so judgy, you know, peace, man. There's like that
00:51:07.080 view. And then there's the view that you need to wear a stroller suit with a top hat every Sunday
00:51:12.160 and look like a fop or a dandy. And the real answer is, you need to wear your best. You need
00:51:18.460 to wear your best. You don't need to, you don't need to wear a $5,000 Armani suit to mass. You
00:51:25.340 don't need to, you should just wear your best. And if the best clothing that you have is, you know,
00:51:31.180 an old polo shirt and chinos, so be it. Though you can, you can get, you can get like a jacket
00:51:35.840 and a shirt and a tie. You can get these things for relatively cheap, but just, you should just
00:51:40.240 wear your best. Because the way to think about it is if you're, if I were going to meet the governor,
00:51:45.400 if I were going to meet a big CEO, I would dress for it. If I were going to meet the
00:51:49.700 president of the United States, especially, I would dress for that. I'd put on my best suit,
00:51:53.100 put on my best tie, comb my hair, make sure I was looking really good.
00:51:57.520 When you go to mass, you're meeting God in a very real physical way.
00:52:03.040 So however you would dress to meet the president of the United States,
00:52:06.240 again, you wouldn't dress like a total fop for that either. You just dress appropriately for
00:52:09.420 the occasion. That's the same thing. It's that kind of, it's that via media. That's what you
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