The Michael Knowles Show - September 09, 2026


Ep. 2056 - The Lindsay Clancy Jurors Speak Out： What They Say Will Shock You


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00:01:35.420 out. What they have to say will have you ready to campaign for the abolition of trial by jury,
00:01:40.580 all while Lindsey Clancy's lawyer begs President Trump to pardon the woman who murdered her three
00:01:47.100 little kids. Then a UC Irvine professor calls for the murder of conservative journalist Nick Shirley
00:01:52.080 on the anniversary of Charlie Kirk's murder. And the left and right come together as everyone from
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00:02:04.600 Islam. As-salamu alaykum. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
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00:02:32.600 the White House is Mary posting.
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00:02:38.900 Yesterday was the nativity of the Blessed Virgin Mary,
00:02:42.120 according to the traditional Christian liturgical calendar.
00:02:45.960 And the White House was wishing a happy birthday to the Blessed Virgin Mary.
00:02:50.440 This is a real change.
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00:04:22.340 that 11 jurors wanted to let Lindsey Clancy off the hook for murdering her three kids.
00:04:28.620 And there was one lone holdout. A lone holdout who the defense attorney identified as a man.
00:04:35.860 Said, you know, all the women want to do the right thing by letting this triple
00:04:39.900 infanticidal murderer off the hook. But this one man, this patriarchal man,
00:04:45.260 wouldn't let lindsey clancy off the hook and so we i'll speak for myself i concocted in my mind
00:04:52.820 an image of the jurors as these awful crone leftist women who who want to let a baby murderer
00:05:03.860 a child murderer off the hook i had this this every awful stereotype about every left-wing woman i i
00:05:11.340 had all of those caricatures in my head. Now the jurors are speaking out and whatever caricature
00:05:18.620 you were thinking of, it didn't go far enough here. Here's just a little tour through the jury
00:05:24.080 pool. His whole demeanor is, um, was funny. And there was one time, whatever he said, I don't
00:05:34.720 know but i went she's talking about the lawyer he was entertaining which was good because we
00:05:42.660 needed some of that and arrogant at the same time yes like arrogant and entertaining he would go
00:05:50.560 back and forth between that yeah but compassionate yes through his with his arrogance his compassion
00:05:57.320 towards lindsey was amazing it was amazing they're talking about the defense attorney the lawyer for
00:06:04.100 lindsey clancy yeah he was really funny he was just really and i mean one time i don't want to
00:06:10.140 i i giggled in the you know he was very into but arrogant oh he was a bad boy oh he was naughty he
00:06:17.700 was a bad boy he was being kind of arrogant but compassionate too he's just oh so anyway that's
00:06:24.140 why we need to let the triple murderer out of jail because you know that lawyer he this is what this
00:06:30.640 is like every again i don't i really want to be moderate in my commentary here i don't want i
00:06:36.380 don't want to give in to all of the but this is like one of the arguments against women on juries
00:06:41.580 this is what one of the arguments is they're just swayed too much by emotion and by feeling and so
00:06:49.440 they don't they're not thinking rationally and these women are saying yeah that's right
00:06:52.760 he was just so charming what a dreamy defense attorney oh oh you know he was like funny but
00:07:00.160 he was kind of mean, but he was kind of sweet. And I love him and I hate him and I love him and
00:07:04.820 I, anyway, he was just a doll. We loved him. So that's, that's why we wanted to exonerate
00:07:10.100 Lindsey Clancy. Okay. Tip of the iceberg folks, tip of the iceberg, because
00:07:15.100 then they turn their ire to the one male juror who would not say that Lindsey Clancy was not guilty.
00:07:25.060 we read to him on numerous occasions the definition of a reasonable doubt from judge
00:07:33.220 sullivan's instruction he actually said one day in the end well why don't we have the judge come
00:07:39.140 in and read it again and we were like no we have it in front of us we don't need that and we would
00:07:47.000 highlight it and you know so and so this is the definition of reasonable but he had the hardest
00:07:54.520 time getting off the fact that Lindsay
00:07:56.620 viciously killed her children.
00:08:00.120 Did you
00:08:00.660 catch that line at the end there?
00:08:03.360 This is the line. I mean,
00:08:04.600 this is what is going to make these women
00:08:06.560 infamous. That line
00:08:08.560 at the end, she says, yeah, you know, this guy
00:08:10.680 is so annoying because we just really wanted him to
00:08:12.600 vote with us, but he wouldn't vote with us. And, you know,
00:08:14.980 he just had the hardest time
00:08:16.600 getting over the fact that
00:08:18.540 Lindsay viciously killed her
00:08:20.600 children, verbatim quote.
00:08:22.400 i have a hard time getting over that too don't you don't you have a hard time getting over the
00:08:32.140 fact that lindsey viciously killed her children because by the way i want to steel man the
00:08:36.700 argument the argument from the defense is yeah she killed all her kids but she was totally
00:08:41.480 out of control you know she wasn't in her right mind she had a brief spurt of psychosis even
00:08:47.820 though she didn't have a previously documented history of psychosis she wasn't diagnosed with
00:08:51.320 postpartum depression. She had never claimed to hear a schizophrenic or demonic voice before.
00:08:56.320 And she methodically planned out all the murders and she carried out all the murders and she wasn't
00:09:00.760 even on all that many drugs. And even though, even though, even though, even though, nevertheless,
00:09:05.840 we would say because she may have had this fit of psychosis, we have to exonerate her. We have to
00:09:11.460 enter a not guilty plea. But this woman undermines that when she goes, she viciously killed all her
00:09:17.220 kids. It's not just that she killed all her kids in a spur of the moment fit of psychosis.
00:09:21.760 She viciously killed all her kids. Vicious here, I think, referring not only to the method of
00:09:26.660 killing, which is the strangulation with the exercise cord, but also the fact that it was
00:09:31.220 obviously planned out. She sent her husband out of the house. It wasn't just a fit of passion
00:09:37.400 or psychosis, it would appear from the evidence. It was a little more planned out than all of that.
00:09:43.560 So when the juror says the male juror had trouble getting over the fact that she viciously killed her kids, yeah, right, he shouldn't get over that fact.
00:09:53.600 That's a materially important fact for the case.
00:09:57.120 Then these women can't stop talking.
00:10:00.120 They admit that they engaged in improper behavior as jurors to reach their decision.
00:10:07.680 He was very arrogant.
00:10:09.220 he really did not take anything that anybody said the nurses he he tried to ask a question
00:10:18.880 about the medications and we went back to the report from south shore hospital we had the
00:10:26.480 toxicology report we could see exactly the amounts the nurses in the room spoke to that
00:10:33.440 There were nurses on the jury.
00:10:36.340 Yes.
00:10:36.920 And they spoke to that specific thing.
00:10:40.720 That was a question that he had.
00:10:43.400 And he just completely disappeared.
00:10:45.240 You just, so right there, the whole argument from the lady jurors, these witches who were in the trial,
00:10:52.560 is that the lone man who refused to let the baby child murderer off the hook, that lone man, he was being improper in how he was a juror.
00:11:02.560 He was engaging in methodological errors.
00:11:05.340 He was refusing to come to the correct conclusion according to the guidelines from the judge.
00:11:09.760 But this woman just admits that she and all the rest of these ladies did exactly the same thing.
00:11:15.060 They actually did something worse.
00:11:16.200 Because right there, she says, yeah, we had the toxicology report.
00:11:19.020 And so we turned to the wise nursewomen on the jury,
00:11:23.220 and we asked them to explain to us what the toxicology report meant.
00:11:28.880 You're not allowed to do that.
00:11:30.440 when you're on a jury, you are only to consider the evidence presented in court.
00:11:37.180 You're not allowed to bring in outside supposed expert testimony. That's why we have procedures
00:11:43.900 for expert testimony to be given in court. You can't do that. That totally undermines the
00:11:51.000 credibility of the jury, not that there really was very much up until this point.
00:11:54.800 she's admitting she says no no no forget about forget about what we heard in the trial we had
00:12:00.580 the the wisdom of the nurses on the jury trying to explain to this man who just wouldn't get it
00:12:07.040 that we need to let lindsey clancy off the hook so right there whatever whatever improper behavior
00:12:14.100 you want to accuse the mail juror of which i think is preposterous but their argument is
00:12:17.680 they say well he knew that there could have been a reasonable doubt but he he voted guilty anyway
00:12:23.900 and so now we have this mistrial whatever improper behavior you want to accuse the
00:12:28.220 male juror of plausible or implausible this woman is admitting that the rest of the ladies on the
00:12:34.840 jury were behaving in a totally inappropriate manner keep going completely disregarded the
00:12:41.600 information that they gave i mean he had reasonable doubt he admitted he had reasonable doubt after
00:12:47.120 we watched that video of the interview i think that's when it was he admitted he had reasonable
00:12:52.760 out and i started filling out the forms i was so excited so excited there were three forms i had
00:12:59.560 to fill out when i started filling them out i wrote my signature on each one and then he said
00:13:06.120 but i'm still not gonna say that she's not guilty by reason of insanity i'm not sure if rogue is
00:13:12.540 the right word too i think he's rogue this man who wouldn't listen to the women i was so excited
00:13:19.660 I was about to start filling out the farms in Harvard Yard.
00:13:23.240 I was so happy.
00:13:24.360 I couldn't have been more thrilled to let Lindsey Clancy free after she killed all her kids.
00:13:28.760 But then this one man, if it wasn't for you rotten kids and your dumb dog too,
00:13:35.420 we would have let Lindsey clear free.
00:13:39.300 This guy, we need a presidential medal of freedom for this guy.
00:13:44.180 We need this guy, the one man.
00:13:46.300 He is the meme.
00:13:47.000 He is the man standing up in the town hall in the Norman Rockwell painting, one man against the mob, saying, no, sorry, ladies, sorry, madame witches, we are not going to let Lindsey Clancy free.
00:14:01.580 I am truly, I am like two clips away, two Lindsey Clancy jury clips away from campaigning for the abolition of trial by jury.
00:14:11.260 This is devastating.
00:14:13.880 These clips are devastating.
00:14:15.320 I'm very pro-woman, as you know.
00:14:17.780 I know there's some people who legitimately are misogynistic on the right.
00:14:20.800 I am not one of them.
00:14:21.620 I'm very pro-woman.
00:14:23.040 I'm very excited about the fact that the White House posted for the Blessed Virgin Mary's birthday yesterday, which we'll get to.
00:14:28.120 But I'm very, very pro-woman.
00:14:29.360 These clips are devastating for women.
00:14:33.140 This is like really, the whole trial, the whole fact that you have these hordes of witches going on TikTok and defending Lindsay Clancy for killing her kids.
00:14:42.780 And then the jurors who are just doing everything they can.
00:14:46.540 One of the jurors admitted that one member of the jury was trying to bully the holdout man from day one to let her off the hook.
00:14:57.360 Devastating, really brutal for the perception of women, really brutal for the perception of juries.
00:15:03.200 I mean, I guess these women are a jury of Lindsey Clancy's peers.
00:15:08.720 I guess in a certain reading of that phrase, they certainly are.
00:15:12.360 It's also devastating for democracy because democracy is just that jury to the scale of 330 million people.
00:15:19.740 That really, oh man, pretty blackpilling.
00:15:22.960 And by the way, they were all swooning over that lawyer.
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00:16:45.240 only through the end of this week. Here is the man who had all the lady jurors swooning in the
00:16:51.460 Clancy trial. This is the defense attorney. What's next for Lindsey? I'd like to say that
00:16:59.720 perhaps Donald Trump, who felt compelled to speak out about this case, may very well,
00:17:04.740 Mr. President, I would hope that you would consider this young lady, the type of person
00:17:10.340 she is, what she's been through, and consider a pardon.
00:17:14.720 Okay, do you know what the problem is with this request?
00:17:19.300 Do you see that?
00:17:20.120 I mean, I guess a lot of people say, well, the first thing is, I don't think Trump wants
00:17:23.080 to let this child killer free.
00:17:25.480 I don't think he wants to pardon her.
00:17:27.140 But you understand the bigger problem.
00:17:31.620 Lindsey Clancy is facing state criminal charges, not federal charges.
00:17:37.560 She didn't commit federal crimes.
00:17:38.800 She committed state crimes.
00:17:40.480 So President Trump has no ability to pardon her.
00:17:45.180 He can only pardon people for federal crimes.
00:17:47.280 And he has sweeping pardon power.
00:17:48.840 Joe Biden proved that when he pardoned all of his friends and relatives for any crime
00:17:52.500 they may or may not have committed at the federal level for 10 years.
00:17:55.520 But even that kind of sweeping pardon doesn't touch the state charges.
00:17:59.280 This is why there was a move to pardon Derek Chauvin of the federal civil rights charges
00:18:04.020 that were against him in the killing of George Floyd.
00:18:07.020 But that actually probably wouldn't have helped Derek Chauvin because he still had all the
00:18:10.940 state charges.
00:18:11.500 So he would have gone to state prison, which would probably be worse than federal prison.
00:18:14.820 So it raises this question.
00:18:17.540 Is Lindsey Clancy's lawyer that dumb?
00:18:20.380 does lindsey clancy's lawyer not know the difference between a federal charge and a state
00:18:25.280 charge or is he just extremely deceitful and i think i want to give him the benefit of the doubt
00:18:32.840 so i think it's obviously the latter i don't i mean you can't it's not just that you can't be
00:18:38.200 a practicing lawyer for decades without knowing the difference between a federal and a state
00:18:41.880 charge like you couldn't you couldn't pass the bar you couldn't get out of your first year of
00:18:46.720 law school. You couldn't score very well on the LSAT. You couldn't, I don't know, you probably
00:18:51.140 couldn't get out of undergraduate if you don't know the difference. So he's obviously just being
00:18:55.480 deceitful here. This is a big media stunt because the facts of the case are squarely against Lindsay
00:19:01.500 Clancy. And so what is he doing here? He knows that he's headed in for another trial. So he's
00:19:06.680 trying to create a political circus, even more of a political circus around the Lindsay Clancy trial
00:19:11.380 to taint another jury pool. Really gross stuff. I mean, you got to give the guy a little bit of
00:19:16.700 credit. Game got to respect game. He's doing a pretty good job for his client who murdered her
00:19:22.420 kids in cold blood. But the rest of us, I don't think we need to give a lot of respect to the
00:19:28.480 jurors or the TikTok ladies who have gone nuts over this. Okay, we'll move on from crazy women
00:19:33.920 in a second. But there's one last bit that we have to get to. A woman has gone viral.
00:19:38.420 a millennial woman and wife has gone viral for mocking her husband on instagram
00:19:47.140 specifically through the act of getting a haircut there's one thing about me i don't like to be told
00:19:55.100 what to do never have never will sorry don't care who you are don't tell me what to do
00:19:59.200 so if you want me to do something you're gonna have to say the opposite and trick me into doing
00:20:03.160 that whatever it is you want me to do but anyway my husband didn't like my haircut the other day
00:20:08.360 he didn't say he didn't like it but in a roundabout way he did. He said, I got my
00:20:13.400 hair colored, okay? I come home. He says, hmm. What do you mean, hmm? What's hmm mean?
00:20:20.060 He said, much shorter, huh? Sure did, obviously. Yeah, I did. Does that mean you don't like it or?
00:20:29.640 He said, no, no. It's fine. It's fine. Shorter. If you say shorter one more time, I will buzz my
00:20:36.240 head all off clean off bye i would not say shorter again sir i didn't cut it for you and i'm also not
00:20:44.360 going to grow it out for you i don't do it for you i do it for me so i don't know is anybody
00:20:50.800 else like this or is it just me i don't know this is this is what i'm watching every day almost every
00:21:02.380 single day I wake up and I thank God for sweet little Elisa. You know, I think, I think of all
00:21:07.720 the ways my life could have gone down the wrong path. There are many ways it could have gone down
00:21:11.820 the wrong path. And I think, oh my goodness, thank you, Lord, that I have sweet little Elisa
00:21:16.980 and that I rarely have to interact with women who have this sort of attitude. The most charitable
00:21:23.540 take I could muster when I saw this was, oh, you know what? I bet it's a bit. I bet she's not even
00:21:27.900 married. She's probably a comedian. She's just trying to build some brand. Maybe that's the
00:21:32.140 case, but she's got more videos. And I'm not. And the thing is, I've met enough wives who are like
00:21:39.120 this. Maybe I'm not going to say the majority of wives. I know a lot of wives, though, who are like
00:21:46.360 this, that it is totally plausible that this woman is actually married and actually is threatening
00:21:52.420 to shave her head because she hates her husband so much. Here's just one more little taste of her
00:21:56.620 Ouvre.
00:22:26.620 take care of i don't want it so i cut it off i mean he might like it longer sure do i care not
00:22:32.860 really nope because he married me because he loved me he didn't marry me because he liked my hair
00:22:38.460 weird also he does not get to tell me what to do with my makeup my hair how i dress like he no no
00:22:46.220 i might ask his opinion but most of the time i'm probably not going to listen to his opinion on
00:22:50.700 any of it that's just who i am i'll ask my sisters their opinions too and usually i do the opposite
00:22:56.620 it is what it is you guys are insane acting like i should only do things for my husband
00:23:04.180 i will only cut and color my hair for my husband okay no i do not do that okay okay let's start
00:23:13.000 from the beginning ladies i know all women especially once they have kids they all want
00:23:18.800 to cut their hair they all want to cut their hair and in part it's because the little kids
00:23:21.800 pull at the hair, I get it. Ladies, if you can bear, don't cut your hair. No man wants you to
00:23:30.260 cut your hair ever, basically. Maybe your husband is honest with you and tells you that. Maybe your
00:23:35.920 husband is a little bit on the beta side and doesn't want to upset you. But I'm speaking for
00:23:43.300 all husbands right now. No one ever wants you to cut your hair. We want your hair to be long,
00:23:51.260 Not short.
00:23:52.040 Okay, that's the first part.
00:23:53.460 But, okay, maybe you have some reason why you think,
00:23:55.800 I really have this special circumstance, I have to cut my hair.
00:23:57.980 Okay, if that is the case, you might talk to your husband about it.
00:24:03.900 I don't know that I would change my hairstyle if I didn't talk to my wife about it.
00:24:08.020 Like, I'm not going to ask her permission to check, but I might mention it.
00:24:11.660 I had some radical change in my appearance.
00:24:13.420 She says, my husband fell in love with me, not with my hair.
00:24:15.600 But your hair is part of you because you and your body are not totally distinct
00:24:19.460 because we don't live in some sort of Gnostic world where our true selves are entrapped by
00:24:26.960 the prison of the body or something crazy. We're humans. We're body and soul. So that's the second
00:24:32.280 part. Yeah, your hair, it seems minor, but it kind of matters. It's part of you.
00:24:37.420 The third part, which is the more important part. She says, yeah, I don't like being told what to
00:24:41.860 do. You don't say. I don't like being told what to do. Okay. And you know what? I don't cut my
00:24:48.640 hair for my husband. I don't live for my husband. I don't do, I'm not doing it because I care about
00:24:56.580 my husband's opinion. It's not for him. That's true, but it is for someone. It's for you on the
00:25:05.960 internet. It's for us. It's for me, I guess. She's doing it for me to get my clicks and it worked
00:25:10.580 because now I'm putting her on my show. The real, really the first question that you have to ask
00:25:16.940 when you see these videos, and there are so many videos, this one just happens to have recently
00:25:20.100 gone quite viral. Why is this woman on TikTok? Why? Again, I don't mean this. I'm not a
00:25:30.900 misogynist. I'm very pro-woman. I love the ladies. They call me a simp sometimes. I like the ladies
00:25:35.440 so much. But what is she after? What does she want to get out of TikTok or Instagram or any
00:25:45.120 social media where she is just filming herself complaining about and emasculating her husband.
00:25:50.320 Imagine her husband or her husband's friends or her kids see this scrolling through social media.
00:25:55.520 What does she want? That's very offensive to all of them. It shows a great deal of disrespect to
00:25:58.960 all of them. But forget about that. What does she want? She wants to please you, a stranger.
00:26:05.820 She wants to get an updo like from you, a stranger. I don't care about the approval of my
00:26:11.820 husband, I care about the approval of a stranger. It's not that she doesn't care about anyone's
00:26:17.480 approval. If she didn't care about anyone's approval, she wouldn't have TikTok. It is simply
00:26:23.320 that she has inverted. She's traded a higher love for a lower love, a higher good for a lower good.
00:26:28.380 I don't care what my husband thinks. Screw my husband. He's a big jerk.
00:26:32.300 I care about what you, a random stranger, think. The ladies, and I've talked to women about it,
00:26:37.880 I've talked to female friends about this, and they're in agreement.
00:26:41.320 The ladies, they need to get off social media.
00:26:44.380 They can watch social media.
00:26:46.640 Like, again, I'm not, especially the Michael Knowles show.
00:26:48.520 That's all good.
00:26:49.180 But if you are filming yourself complaining about your husband,
00:26:56.460 if you're filming, especially with the kids,
00:26:58.420 if you're filming your kids and posting pictures of your kids to social media,
00:27:02.560 maybe just ask yourself, what are you doing that for?
00:27:06.180 I know, I'll tell you what you're doing.
00:27:07.260 You're doing it because your kids are really cute.
00:27:09.860 And so you want to document that.
00:27:11.420 But that doesn't explain why you post it.
00:27:12.900 That explains why you take the picture.
00:27:14.160 That doesn't explain why you post it.
00:27:16.680 You post it to social media because you have this good and you want to show it off to the rest of the world.
00:27:22.900 That's a perfectly human trait.
00:27:24.440 That's a perfectly natural thing.
00:27:27.020 But what you are doing is you are instrumentalizing your kids into a tool for your own adulation from strangers.
00:27:36.780 That's weird.
00:27:37.920 That's bizarre.
00:27:38.640 All these videos of these women,
00:27:40.000 it's basically all women
00:27:41.000 who are like talking about their kids.
00:27:42.820 They're teenage kids sometimes.
00:27:44.560 They're younger kids, certainly.
00:27:46.460 Telling all these embarrassing stories.
00:27:48.880 What they're saying is,
00:27:50.820 I don't care about a relationship of trust with my kid.
00:27:54.220 I don't care about the privacy of my kid.
00:27:56.360 I don't care about the dignity of my kid.
00:27:58.520 I'm willing to trade all of that
00:28:00.500 for the likes of random strangers.
00:28:02.660 This is that graph, the heat graph.
00:28:06.020 of where the right versus the left
00:28:10.020 prioritize their loves.
00:28:11.520 This is what the vice president was talking about
00:28:12.840 when he brought up the Ordo Amoris,
00:28:14.140 the order of love about a year ago,
00:28:15.780 which is that the left cares about people
00:28:20.200 that are much further away from them.
00:28:22.640 They might be nasty to their families.
00:28:25.200 And statistically, they are more likely
00:28:26.780 to cut off their family,
00:28:27.940 to cut off friendships over politics.
00:28:31.320 They're less likely to donate to their communities
00:28:33.720 or to volunteer for their actual local communities.
00:28:36.020 but they will, at least in their own minds,
00:28:38.380 care much more about people
00:28:39.380 on the other side of the world.
00:28:40.400 They'll care much more about a stranger
00:28:41.660 than they will about their sibling.
00:28:43.760 And for the right, it's the opposite.
00:28:45.140 The right might not care that much
00:28:46.500 about the guy on the other side of the world,
00:28:47.680 but they do care more about their community.
00:28:49.740 And this is borne out in reams and reams
00:28:51.760 of social scientific data.
00:28:53.300 That is disordered.
00:28:55.640 So really the basic advice here,
00:28:58.340 we've been tough enough on the ladies today,
00:28:59.960 though, you know, come on, listen,
00:29:01.460 we're in the Clancy era.
00:29:02.640 We gotta be realistic.
00:29:03.660 you you should care what your husband thinks you should care more about your husband than
00:29:10.020 you care about a stranger you should care more about your kids than you care about a stranger
00:29:13.800 you should you should have a hard time getting to bring it back to the lindsey clancy story
00:29:19.520 you should have a hard time getting over the fact that she viciously killed her kids
00:29:23.440 to quote the juror you should have a hard time with that and you you should it's not that you
00:29:27.520 need to totally change everything about your life it's not that you need to suppress your true self
00:29:32.660 It's that you need to make sure that your loves are properly ordered.
00:29:36.580 Okay, now we turn from crazy women to the greatest woman who ever lived.
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00:30:56.820 Yesterday, I had actually forgotten this for most of yesterday.
00:30:59.360 Yesterday is the nativity of the Blessed Virgin Mary.
00:31:04.500 So this is traditionally understood in the liturgical calendar for Christians.
00:31:08.580 This is Mary's birthday.
00:31:10.220 And I'm somewhat ashamed to admit that for most of the day, I had forgotten this.
00:31:14.980 The White House posts, Happy Birthday, Mary, Queen of Victories.
00:31:20.860 So not just Happy Birthday, Mary, Mary the Mother of God,
00:31:23.280 but Happy Birthday, Mary, with one of her many titles,
00:31:25.960 one of her many very traditional titles, says President Donald J. Trump. And then there's a
00:31:32.300 picture of this beautiful, it's the Madonna and the child, the Christ child, both of them wearing
00:31:39.260 crowns, Mary as Queen of Heaven and Christ as King of Kings, King of the Universe. There,
00:31:45.840 it's just an amazing, it's just, we just need to repeal the 22nd Amendment, is basically my
00:31:52.800 conclusion. This is good stuff. I don't seriously mean that necessarily, even though Ronald Reagan
00:31:57.460 campaigned for the repeal of the 22nd amendment. And there is a term limit already built into our
00:32:01.480 constitutional system, which is at the ballot box. But I'm not even, it's okay. President Trump
00:32:05.660 doesn't want to run again. That's fine. This is good stuff, guys. This is good stuff. And I,
00:32:12.020 on the surface, you would say, look, these radical Calvinists, the Puritans, the separatists,
00:32:17.560 the radical Protestants who founded our country in the earliest days, all the way back to the
00:32:22.140 Mayflower, which is a great cigar brand. They would probably be a little weirded out by being
00:32:27.160 nice to Mary, the mother of God, because they had problems with Mary and veneration, and okay,
00:32:31.800 whatever. But can we just zoom out a little bit between the internecine conflicts? And, you know,
00:32:37.760 conservatives always love attacking each other. They always, you get 100 conservatives into the
00:32:41.420 room, they'll find the one thing they all disagree on and rip each other to shreds over it. You get
00:32:45.860 100 baptized Christians in the room, they'll find the one theological disagreement that they have,
00:32:50.940 they'll all fight each other over it very frequently. Can we just zoom out a little bit?
00:32:56.480 The White House, which three years ago was hosting topless trannies on the South Lawn,
00:33:04.220 flying pride flags, castrating little kids, investigating churches, designating churchgoers
00:33:12.480 as violent domestic extremists akin to terrorists. The White House today in the Trump era
00:33:20.740 is saying happy birthday to the mother of God. That is an unqualified good. That is so great.
00:33:29.680 And it does matter. Some people are going to say, oh, it's just a Twitter post. Who cares?
00:33:36.280 The left cares, that's for sure. The left cares a lot about Trump's Twitter posts.
00:33:40.620 Even the atheists, the secularists, the liberals are all very upset about this. They're upset about
00:33:45.300 a lot of Trump's Twitter posts. But if you believe that the presidency is supposed to be the spirited
00:33:50.300 part of the government, the thematic part of the government. The judiciary is the logical part of
00:33:54.780 the government. The legislature is the appetitive part of the government, and the executive is the
00:34:00.380 spirited part of the government. Well, then a lot of the president's power is in the bully pulpit.
00:34:05.480 The president can't exactly pass laws. The president can't decide on court cases.
00:34:10.960 The president can't, sort of can go to war unilaterally, but in the long run can't go to war
00:34:16.080 unilaterally. The president does have limited power. The president can't even fire federal
00:34:21.980 bureaucrats half the time. But the president has the bully pulpit. And the fact that the president,
00:34:27.940 President Trump, is using the bully pulpit not to push transing your kids, not to stigmatize
00:34:34.160 religious people who go to church, not to promote infanticide through abortion, not to promote
00:34:39.640 open borders, not to, not to, not to. The fact that he is using that to remind even Catholics
00:34:47.360 who should know better, to remind them even that it's the traditional liturgical feast day of Mary,
00:34:53.480 the mother of God. You know, in the Biden administration, they'd be posting about George
00:34:56.720 Floyd day. And in the Trump administration, they're posting about Mary's birthday. This is
00:35:02.020 so great. I just love it. I just absolutely love it. It's great stuff and it does matter.
00:35:05.420 Okay. Now, it's a big woman show today because this pertains to the White House. The White House
00:35:11.680 has been posting, I think, a rare messaging miss. And I think they should hone in on the messaging
00:35:18.920 here because they're posting about the job gains that we've had since Trump was inaugurated for
00:35:24.140 the second term. And what they've observed is that women have gotten almost all of the jobs.
00:35:32.040 and the white house is posting this as as a big messaging win i think they're a little mistaken
00:35:38.720 here we'll get to that in a second first though my favorite comment yesterday is from jason who
00:35:42.460 says hey everyone how was everyone's labor day am i the only one refreshing my spotify page at 12
00:35:46.880 yes that's the way to do it just wait we were a little delayed there was a little technical glitch
00:35:52.040 at the top of the show today we're a little we're delayed by a couple minutes it's okay you got to
00:35:56.180 just sit there all day refresh the page until the show comes out that is i agree that's a good use
00:36:01.400 of time. Rapid response 47. So this is one of the rapid response accounts from the White House.
00:36:08.040 Posts this article from Just the News. Says, women account for almost all net U.S. job gains
00:36:14.860 since Trump took office. Report. Good for the women who need the jobs, who want the jobs. That's
00:36:23.220 good for them. But I think this is bad messaging. And I think the White House should tighten up the
00:36:28.660 messaging here. Because when you post that women account for all the job gains since Trump took
00:36:35.640 office, what you are saying is that half the population hasn't gotten any jobs. That's not
00:36:43.080 good messaging. And it's even worse than that because we're coming off of two days of debating
00:36:50.840 this new potential policy reform from the Trump administration, which would divert some already
00:36:57.020 existing welfare money for an already existing program from promoting single parenthood and
00:37:02.260 mothers dropping their kids off at daycare so they can go work in an office to the many stay
00:37:06.800 at home mothers who would prefer to use those tax dollars to raise their own kids rather than pay
00:37:11.440 someone at a daycare center to do it. So you've just had that messaging, which I think was very
00:37:16.100 effective. And now you're kind of undermining that messaging by saying, hey, isn't it an
00:37:20.700 unqualified good that women are leaving the home and going to the office. But we know there was
00:37:27.180 Gallup polling that came out. We talked about it yesterday on the show. 54% of working moms would
00:37:32.260 rather stay home and raise their kids, at least for some period of time. So the messaging here,
00:37:37.240 I think it really alienates a lot of men, like all the men. But then even for the majority of
00:37:45.680 working mothers, they're going to see that headline, and at best, they're going to be
00:37:50.820 blasé about it. And at worst, they're going to say, yeah, we are all getting jobs, but we don't
00:37:54.120 want jobs. We want to work, but we want to work at home and raise our kids, 54% of us. The majority
00:38:00.380 of us working mothers want to stay at home and raise our kids, but we can't because the economy
00:38:05.000 has been structured for 70, 80 years such that we kind of need two incomes now to get by.
00:38:11.040 so it's not you know i've noticed it's not just president trump it's not just this administration
00:38:17.000 republicans broadly have leaned into this a lot they've tried to tout the the low female
00:38:23.360 unemployment rate is some great political accomplishment it doesn't read that way
00:38:27.020 necessarily it's some for women who want jobs it can read well but there are so many downsides to
00:38:33.720 that kind of messaging and it presumes that the ideal society is one in which the female
00:38:39.860 unemployment rate is zero, in which all the women are outside of the home, and all the kids are in
00:38:44.360 daycare, or women are just not having kids anyway, and they're putting it off and off and off, which
00:38:48.460 is another cause of women's distress, widely reported by millennial women. It presumes that
00:38:53.520 the best scenario is when everyone's just working in the widget factory all day, and men and women
00:38:57.040 are indiscernible. But I don't think we really believe that. This is a rare messaging mess.
00:39:03.160 Okay, speaking of changes over the past year, we are now, what, one day out? Yeah, it's tomorrow.
00:39:09.860 is the anniversary of Charlie Kirk's murder.
00:39:12.220 I'm going to fly to Utah.
00:39:13.560 TPSA is putting on an event at the campus
00:39:16.480 where he was murdered as a kind of act of defiance,
00:39:19.580 as Andrew Colvay said yesterday,
00:39:21.440 to tell the left, you know, we're going to show back up
00:39:25.140 and we're going to pay honor to our friend
00:39:27.180 and have a memorial for him at the very same place.
00:39:30.700 So it's coming up.
00:39:31.740 A lot of people are feeling very emotional about it,
00:39:33.620 certainly on the right.
00:39:35.040 And on the left too, apparently,
00:39:36.480 because they're feeling emotions in a different way.
00:39:39.120 they're feeling joy. They're feeling glee. Not all of them, not even most of them, but a lot.
00:39:45.620 A distressing number, including in prominent positions. Nick Shirley, the conservative
00:39:49.960 journalist, was supposed to speak at a school. I think he was supposed to speak at Harvard or
00:39:52.640 something. A UC Irvine professor posted underneath this announcement and said,
00:40:00.420 someone can do the funniest thing just before the Kirk-aversary. Someone can do the funniest thing,
00:40:06.540 which is internet slang for those of you who aren't hip to the jive like I am.
00:40:10.760 It's internet slang for, in this case, killing Nick Shirley. It'd be the funniest thing right
00:40:16.160 before the, wouldn't it be so funny if right before the anniversary of the leftist murdering
00:40:19.660 Charlie Kirk, a leftist murdered Nick Shirley, another conservative journalist and activist.
00:40:23.700 Wouldn't that be so funny? There are tons of freaks and weirdos on the internet. That is,
00:40:29.200 maybe the modal denizen of the internet is a freak and a weirdo.
00:40:32.260 But this guy is not just some fringe poster.
00:40:35.180 This guy is a UC Irvine professor.
00:40:37.480 Not just a university professor, a public university professor.
00:40:43.400 He's calling on leftists to commit another murder against another conservative leader.
00:40:50.660 This, yeah, it was Harvard.
00:40:52.640 It was in response to the Harvard University Republican Club.
00:40:56.260 So this same professor, Goldman, he's had other posts.
00:40:59.560 He posted a picture of Luigi from Mario Brothers holding a gun up to the United Healthcare CEO,
00:41:05.660 Brian Thompson. He posted a meme praising Henry Kissinger's death. Again, Henry Kissinger wasn't
00:41:10.820 murdered, but still nasty thing to do. And the fact that he's celebrating leftist violence again
00:41:17.180 and again and again reminds you. It's not just the crazy student, you know, the 19-year-old with
00:41:25.120 the orange hair and the septum piercing who just got a little carried away. Kids do dumb stuff.
00:41:28.860 It's not that. It's not even just the fringe weirdo activists, some flunky druggie who works
00:41:34.240 for Antifa. It's not just even that guy. It's your professor. And the point I made after Charlie
00:41:40.560 was killed, when everyone was saying, I think to make ourselves feel better, a lot of people were
00:41:45.480 saying, well, you know what? We need to double down on the open marketplace of ideas. We need
00:41:49.000 to just double down because that's what Charlie would have wanted. A lot of people trying to
00:41:53.800 infer what Charlie would have wanted and try to speak for Charlie from beyond the grave. And I'm
00:41:57.120 sure they all had very good intentions, but I drew the opposite conclusion. I said, no, we don't need
00:42:02.100 to open up the marketplace of ideas anymore. We need to close it off a little bit. We need to
00:42:06.140 police it a little bit. We need to restore order. Charlie was the most gracious that one really
00:42:12.460 could be in the open marketplace of ideas, talking to anybody about anything. And they murdered him
00:42:17.340 for it. And then they celebrated his murder. And a year later, they're still celebrating his murder
00:42:20.900 at pretty high levels. Professors, political commentators on television, elected officials,
00:42:25.640 on and on and on. I said, you can't have that. You can't have an open marketplace of ideas when
00:42:31.140 bandits shoot up the marketplace. So we need to fire people. We need to exclude people. We need
00:42:35.360 to censor people. We need to deport people if we can in order to have an open marketplace and other
00:42:41.220 goods as well. But even if you just want the open marketplace of ideas, in order to have that,
00:42:46.260 you need to censor the people who undermine the marketplace. You need to imprison in some places
00:42:50.920 the people who would undermine the marketplace. You need to deport in some cases those people.
00:42:55.060 You have to do it.
00:42:55.620 You can't, the examples I gave were,
00:42:57.760 you can't have a restaurant where the customers fear
00:43:00.360 that the waiters are going to poison them.
00:43:02.380 The restaurant will close down.
00:43:04.060 You can't have a hospital in which the patients think
00:43:08.200 that the nurses are going to kill them.
00:43:10.220 The hospital will close down.
00:43:11.260 People won't go to the hospital.
00:43:12.760 And the third example I gave was,
00:43:15.040 I gave this in Senate testimony last year on Capitol Hill.
00:43:17.060 I said, you can't have a school
00:43:20.260 in which the parents think that the teachers
00:43:23.760 are going to kill the students.
00:43:26.300 No, you're not going to send your kid to that school.
00:43:28.740 Well, that's what we have.
00:43:29.640 That's what UC Irvine is.
00:43:31.840 A UC Irvine professor posting underneath the Harvard Club.
00:43:34.900 Okay, I do want to get, I know we're running late.
00:43:36.880 I don't really care.
00:43:37.840 There is a weird kind of Islamophilia
00:43:40.020 that is creeping up on the left and the right.
00:43:43.880 It's uniting the left and the right
00:43:45.420 from James Tallarico to Milo Yiannopoulos.
00:43:48.100 You know what?
00:43:48.460 I know, I know.
00:43:48.960 They're going to yell at me if I go over too much.
00:43:50.800 So this is my little tease.
00:43:52.040 We'll get to it tomorrow, okay?
00:43:53.760 we'll get to it. I promise you, I think. Today is Work for Mom Wednesday. The rest of the show
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