The Vatican s former ambassador to the United States is publicly accusing Pope Francis of covering up for an abusive cardinal, and he s calling on the Pope to resign. Then, Eric Eggers stops by to discuss his new book, Fraud: How the Left Plans to Steal the Next Election. And the mainstream media, which savaged John McCain in 2008 when it actually mattered, are now rolling out the panegyrics after the senator s death. Finally, an update on the socialist gift that keeps on giving, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
00:12:24.820These are the words of Cardinal Cupish.
00:12:27.140Absolute clarity that he would ban guns from churches and parishes while he's archbishop.
00:12:33.820But then he's a little less clear on other aspects.
00:12:35.800When he was the bishop of Rapid City, he was less clear on abortion.
00:12:38.600He said, well, you know, we have to consider both sides.
00:12:41.660And when there was an anti-abortion bill up to the legislature, well, we have to, I don't know, it's not that clear, you know, blah, blah, blah.
00:13:17.860Because these people who seem to call for clarity all the way up the Vatican hierarchy then seem to be very unclear when the light shines on them.
00:13:27.180They seem to be a little unclear on doctrine, too.
00:13:57.360And to stand there and say we need more transparency, less clericalism, more honesty, while you're covering that up, raises serious, serious questions of integrity.
00:14:07.580So the question is what to do because we've got to get to our interview.
00:14:09.900But I know people are going to be wondering, not just Catholics but Christians generally, what do we do about this?
00:14:15.700The first answer is don't flee the church.
00:14:18.240The church has been through a lot of bad things before.
00:14:21.720A lot of, I'm speaking even to the Protestant denominations, they've been through a lot of scandals before.
00:19:59.100Well, how vigorous is the protestation and the effort to stop anyone from trying to do it?
00:20:04.500Look at what happened to Ohio recently.
00:20:06.080You're still having a contested election there.
00:20:08.240And imagine what would happen if the state of Ohio had been unsuccessful in its efforts to fight Soros funded efforts to do two things, right?
00:20:16.420Make elections more secure by removing illegal voters from the voting rolls and requiring people to show a voter ID.
00:20:21.840Both those things are common sense, yet they had to fight Soros funded people every turn.
00:20:26.460And, you know, I want to go back to the racism accusation, because this is what we hear.
00:20:31.920We hear if you want to have voter ID laws, you want people to show the same idea that they need to get a pack of cigarettes when they go vote,
00:20:40.520It disenfranchises black voters or something.
00:20:43.640But you cite specific instances in the book that show that this is not true,
00:20:47.960that these laws are not unpopular with minority voters and that it doesn't suppress the minority vote.
00:20:53.880Yeah, for whatever reason, it's not considered racist to suggest that there's entire classes of people that are incapable of doing things that other classes of people are doing.
00:21:01.540You know, Michael, if you wanted to buy an alcoholic beverage, if you want to get on an airplane,
00:21:05.520if you want to go to the Democratic National Convention in 2016, you didn't need a driver's license.
00:21:42.900I think the New York Times actually even admitted, they said, you know, this surge in minority voting in Alabama does throw a wrench in our narrative, basically.
00:22:07.360They can go down and get their own ID and go, you know, buy a pack of cigarettes or a drink or vote or, God forbid, go to the Democrat National Convention.
00:22:17.500And also, these voter ID laws are not unpopular with minority voters.
00:22:25.320The majority of people don't think that there's anything wrong with requiring that they should have to show an ID.
00:22:29.740Yeah, I think this myth of voter ID being oppressive, it's like the equivalent of, you know, kind of claiming the wrong height on your driver's license.
00:22:36.420Like, I wish I was six feet tall, but there's just no evidence to support it.
00:22:39.640So that's exactly the same case with anybody that claims that voter ID laws are unpopular or oppressive.
00:22:46.580So the Democrats deny that voter fraud happens, even though we've uncovered these instances.
00:22:54.240There was that precinct, several precincts, I think, in Philadelphia in 2012 that recorded zero votes for Mitt Romney.
00:23:01.360You've got other pretty dodgy instances of thousands of absentee ballots being written in the same hand, showing up last minute in races that are decided by a few hundred votes, possibly.
00:23:12.340So the people who deny that voter fraud happens now, what do they say about all the past examples?
00:23:17.900Because you take us in the book through this great journey of all of the wonderful methods and instances of voter fraud going back to America's earliest days.
00:23:30.020It's like the Oregon Trail of voter fraud.
00:23:31.480I think that's a blurb I'm going to attribute to you from my website.
00:23:34.200No, I think that there's a key thing you're touching on, right?
00:23:37.440And that's this, that the left, which is the Brennan Center and other Soros-funded groups, they define voter fraud in very specific terms.
00:23:46.000And they define it in what's called an under-inclusive way.
00:23:49.780And so they define it only as an act of intentional impersonation on behalf of an illegal voter, right, who's impersonating an illegal voter.
00:23:56.880And there's evidence to say that that's actually quite easy to do, but the two instances that you just referenced, the things, the 18 precincts in Philadelphia in which Mitt Romney received zero votes in the 2012 election, which is a statistical anomaly.
00:24:10.060It's impossible for that to happen, even just through sheer error.
00:24:12.880Or the hundreds of ballots that had the same signatures, actually hundreds of ballot request forms in which the supervisor of elections in South Florida was basically powerless and had to send the ballots out for them.
00:24:24.660Those are both actually, those are actually both things that are legal.
00:24:27.560And so they don't qualify or classify as voter fraud.
00:24:31.080And I think that really touches on an important point.
00:24:33.640What the left considers to be voter fraud is that very narrow definition that I shared.
00:24:37.020But what I think you or I or the majority of people that are watching this podcast or even just common sense Americans, they would define voter fraud as anything that robs the true weight of an honest American vote.
00:24:48.520And the real crime of it is, and I try to lay this out in the book, is that a vast majority of those things are legal.
00:24:54.560And so that's why these two sides sort of speak past each other.
00:24:58.180The left says, oh, voter fraud is very rare.
00:25:00.180It's because they defined it so narrowly.
00:25:02.560And the right would say, well, voter fraud is actually quite pervasive.
00:25:05.060And they're right, because things that most people would consider to be a voter fraud does happen.
00:25:10.380I mean, we talk about this in the book as well.
00:25:12.980At GAI, the Government Accountability Institute, for whom I work, we commissioned a study as part of the process of this book.
00:25:18.480And we said, all right, let's take a look at actual ballots cast in the 2016 election.
00:25:22.620We compiled all the publicly available voter rolls we could get.
00:25:26.180And we have 2,100 instances of double voting in the state of Florida alone.
00:25:30.680That means 2,100 people cast a ballot in the state of Florida, where I live, and then cast a second ballot somewhere else.
00:25:37.880So that's illegal, but the left wouldn't consider that to be voter fraud.
00:25:42.000There's nearly 3 million people, by the way, that are registered to vote in more than one state in this country.
00:25:46.700Up to 24 million voter registrations are highly inaccurate or completely wrong.
00:25:51.480The Supreme Court cited those stats recently.
00:25:53.300So we've got major problems in the system, right?
00:25:55.840There's a million illegal immigrants that have driver's license in California.
00:25:58.000There's 248 counties in this country with more registered voters than citizens of legal voting age.
00:26:03.580So it's not a question of, is the system flawed?
00:26:06.060The left just tries to couch and get very cute in terms of, well, does that mean there's actual disimpersonation?
00:26:10.980And most people would say, listen, where there's opportunities for fraud or where the errors occur, and we know that there's errors all over the place.
00:26:17.020And you see, I mean, there are so many instances now, especially these motor voter laws, where you can illegally register to vote and then legally vote, right?
00:26:26.460You should never have been registered to vote in the first place, but once you're registered, then you're registered.
00:26:32.740Then you can show up to the polls and vote, or you can do it by absentee or whatever.
00:26:36.440It's so, you know, the left wants to pretend that we're talking about when people break into an election place and go and stand in line.
00:26:44.980But there's so many other ways to do it.
00:26:47.260You talk about 2,200 votes in Florida, that could have thrown the 2,000 presidential election multiple times, several times over.
00:26:56.420And a lot of times, by the way, people might not know that they're ineligible to vote.
00:27:05.940And this is another area where I think the left says one thing, and it's sort of beggars belief.
00:27:10.100Like, they're right that there aren't millions of illegal immigrants, like, getting a bat signal somewhere from George Soros and then running to the poll.
00:27:19.380Like, I'm willing to admit that, right?
00:27:21.360But what's absolutely true is that the vulnerabilities that the left fights to protect, like, every time they fight against the voter ID law,
00:27:30.040or every time they fight to try to keep the voter rolls from having illegal voters removed,
00:27:34.460they actually end up exploiting the population that they would claim to be wanting to protect.
00:27:38.980In fact, it was actually leftist immigration attorneys that turned me on to this as part of the research for the book.
00:27:43.400And I talk about several examples in the book of people that are, you know, these are non-citizens.
00:27:48.240They even, in some instances, work for polling places.
00:27:50.840But they don't know that they're not supposed to be voting.
00:27:52.920And the law prevents the DMV officials, who is the only safeguard between the non-citizen and the voter rolls,
00:28:00.040the DMV officials are not allowed to give any guidance and say, well, are you a citizen?
00:30:12.160Tom Perez used to work for a group that is also on the tail end of source funding called Casted in Maryland,
00:30:17.580like an acorn in the Raza type group in the state of Maryland.
00:30:20.900And their big push was to advocate for non-citizen voting rights.
00:30:25.420Tom Perez's hometown of Tacoma Park, Maryland, has been allowing voting rights since 1992 for non-citizens.
00:30:31.840So it's sort of insane. That was actually one of the things I was most floored by when I wrote the book.
00:30:36.900It's like, wow, I didn't realize non-citizens were able to legally cast ballots in this country.
00:30:41.520And luckily, they're not able to cast ballots in federal elections.
00:30:45.460But for the first time, Democrats believe that illegal immigrants who pay taxes should be able to vote in elections.
00:30:53.280Right. A majority of Democrats, 53 percent of self-described liberals, 54 percent of Democrats believe illegal aliens who pay taxes should be able to vote.
00:31:00.800So this is clearly the future. And, yeah, it's only a matter of time before we start to see an argument about,
00:31:04.920well, why can't non-citizens vote in federal elections?
00:32:03.680And so I do want to ask, just in the last few minutes here, about the Soros of it all,
00:32:09.460where he's got his tentacles, and what we have to look out for before the next election.
00:32:15.780Right. And it's a great question, Michael.
00:32:17.880So one of the things that people need to realize is that the Soros-funded groups do two things, right?
00:32:23.640They fight against any effort to increase election security.
00:32:27.440So the state of Ohio, which I mentioned previously, they had to fight against, you know, Mark Elias,
00:32:33.180who was the Clinton campaign attorney, ahead of 2016, filed a lawsuit to block Ohio's implementation of their voter ID law.
00:32:40.500Well, he was filing that on behalf of, he was actually paid by George Soros to file that lawsuit.
00:32:45.380The state of Ohio also has had to fight against its efforts, as I noted, to remove illegal voters from their voting rolls.
00:32:51.020Well, Soros was behind that as well, Soros money.
00:32:52.800So this is what they do. So they fund organizations to fight against any effort to increase election security.
00:32:58.600At the same time, he then funds groups like La Raza and ACORN, who then go out and rouse up as many voters as possible
00:33:06.500and funnel these voters through the gaps that the other organizations fight to make sure still exist,
00:33:12.780regardless of whether these voters are legal or not. Right.
00:33:15.640I mean, why have ACORN and La Raza actually changed their name because of how chronically affiliated they were with voter registration fraud or voter fraud?
00:33:23.300One of the groups, one of the groups on behalf of Mark Elias, who was working for this group called Ohio Organizing Collaborative,
00:33:30.560they actually had an employee arrested and sentenced to jail for registering dead people to vote.
00:33:35.920So it just speaks to sort of the the nexus of the organizations and the efforts.
00:33:39.680And yeah, so I think it's actually quite insidious and it's kind of intelligent if you weren't concerned about the ramifications for the country.
00:33:45.880Right. Well, you know, President Trump has made inroads in a lot of formerly Democratic demographics, you know,
00:33:52.960blue collar workers and he's increased his support among the black vote and he's done very well.
00:33:59.840Maybe we can also get some of the dead vote, too.
00:34:01.720You know, that's been a solid Democrat lock for decades.
00:34:04.380But who knows? I mean, miracles seem to be happening.
00:34:06.940So, well, just to give you an idea of why the voter rolls, like whether there's dead people on the rolls or felons or people that no longer live in that state.
00:34:16.540And I know we have to go, but just to give you a quick example of how easy those vulnerabilities and errors can be exploited by motivated political groups.
00:34:22.840The city of New York sent in a state of New York actually sent in undercover agents into New York City elections because they wanted to see, all right, we know there's problems here.
00:34:32.100And so they said, we want to see how easily these problems are manipulated.
00:34:35.260So they sent in undercover agents to vote on behalf of felons, on behalf of people that are dead, on behalf of people that no longer lived in the state.
00:34:42.320And they tried to cast a total of 63 ballots.
00:34:46.640Sixty one of those 63 attempts were successful.
00:34:50.140And one of the only, and this includes like a 26-year-old undercover agent voting on behalf of somebody that's nearly 80 years old, right?
00:34:58.260So it's not like there's, it's not real matchy-matchy.
00:35:00.780But one of the only people that was stopped was trying to vote on behalf of a felon who shouldn't have been on the voter roll.
00:35:07.600And the only reason they couldn't vote is because the felon's mother was actually working the polling.
00:35:18.200So for people, so I mean, I think that speaks to that.
00:35:19.680So they keep the errors in place and then the errors are incredibly easily exploited.
00:35:24.240And that's basically the recipe for how it happened.
00:35:25.760Well, people have to read the book because it gives a lot of hope in that the law is on our side, the history is on our side, the public opinion is on our side, and it looks like we can protect the integrity of our elections a lot better in the future.
00:35:40.540But you've got to know where the problem is.
00:37:07.240We'll be back to talk about John McCain and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
00:37:22.120We're going to find out one day that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is actually constructed by Republican strategists to give us something to talk about.
00:39:28.000They just have to politicize everything to attack Donald Trump or to attack John McCain when he posed a threat to them.
00:39:34.560Here is here's just an investigation, a sort of special about John McCain that ran in 2008 when he was running for the president.
00:39:42.260Here's how CNN treated John McCain then.
00:39:44.940McCain wrote in his memoir that he began dating Cindy after he separated from his wife, Carol.
00:39:51.160In fact, his own divorce filing shows they dated for nine months while he was still living with Carol.
00:39:56.340And records show he applied for a marriage license in Arizona before his divorce was final.
00:40:04.760The chronology that is presented publicly doesn't necessarily match the chronology of the documents that you had applied for a marriage license in Arizona at a time when your divorce wasn't final yet.
00:40:15.000Done, done, done, done the music that McCain revealed like this guy is the worst person who ever lived because he cheated on his wife.
00:40:24.420Mind you, this is the cable news network that defended Bill Clinton vigorously during all of his sex scandals.
00:43:28.580We didn't always agree with John McCain on many important issues.
00:43:31.920We disagreed intensely with John McCain.
00:43:35.120He passed McCain-Feingold, which was that campaign finance legislation that was then overturned by the Supreme Court because it was a violation of free speech.
00:43:43.860He was always a maverick as he was styled in the media.
00:44:37.160I realize technically he's not the first president I voted for because when I was six years old, my mother let me go into the booth with her.
00:44:44.200I convinced her to vote for Dole, and she let me pull the lever.
00:46:16.580ICE stands for Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
00:46:21.280Immigration Enforcement means deporting people who have immigrated illegally, who are in the country illegally.
00:46:28.080Therefore, and see if you can stay with me, abolishing immigration enforcement means abolishing the mechanism of immigration enforcement, which is deportations.