The Michael Knowles Show - November 09, 2026


Ep. 2099 - Trump Offers Dana White The White House Press Secretary Job

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00:00:42.800 of Charlie Kirk. President Trump replaces his chief of staff with immigration hardliner Stephen
00:00:47.240 Miller and possibly replaces his press secretary with UFC founder Dana White. And then Democrats
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00:00:58.980 I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:01:18.440 Welcome back to the show. This is the week. Daily Wire's new movie, Confession,
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00:01:46.840 content. Okay, I want to get to the Chappelle thing because Chappelle expressed his joy about
00:01:54.400 how Charlie Kirk was murdered. And now you got some conservatives defending him. And it does go
00:02:00.660 back to a hobby horse of mine, which is free speech and what free speech even means. It's
00:02:06.320 especially ironic because Charlie defended Dave Chappelle when people were attacking Dave Chappelle,
00:02:11.000 figuratively attacking him and literally attacking him. I don't know. I have a lot of thoughts on
00:02:16.460 it. Before we get to that, though, there is some hard political news. President Trump has replaced
00:02:22.960 his chief of staff. Susie Wiles is out. Stephen Miller, the immigration hardliner, is in. Stephen
00:02:30.100 Miller, who I think is really going to rile up the base in a good way, not in a bad way. I think
00:02:35.280 he's going to really, really boost morale of the base at a very important time. You will recall
00:02:39.860 Stephen Miller, one of the hardcore figures from the earliest days of President Trump's run for
00:02:44.820 president, Stephen Miller, one of the only guys at Duke during the Duke lacrosse scandal,
00:02:49.640 when those guys got railroaded by prostitutes and the earliest days of Me Too cancel culture,
00:02:55.420 Stephen Miller was one of the only people who actually defended those guys and said,
00:02:58.440 hey, they're innocent until proven guilty. There's a lot of evidence that they're innocent.
00:03:02.200 He was right. He was one of the only people that was right about that.
00:03:05.240 He is also one of the serious immigration hawks. Anyway, what does this mean? Does this mean that
00:03:10.260 Trump hates Susie Wiles now or was a total failure or this or that. No, no, I think people are being
00:03:15.880 way too harsh on Susie about this. The White House chief of staff is a short job. That's a job that
00:03:21.560 you don't have for all that long, historically speaking. Susie Wiles has lasted longer in that 1.00
00:03:26.500 role than any of President Trump's other chiefs of staff, and she's lasted longer than most chiefs
00:03:31.840 of staff ever in the history of the US presidency. So President Trump came out when he discussed the
00:03:36.480 shakeup. He said, Susie's done a great job, but we're moving in a new direction.
00:03:42.040 I just wanted to know why you decided to make that decision.
00:03:44.760 I wanted to make a change. I think Susie's done a very good job, great job.
00:03:51.420 But I just wanted to make it. Stephen's been great. And we gotta make moves. Sometimes in
00:03:59.760 life you have to make moves. We gotta make moves. What does he mean by that? He means that
00:04:04.520 the midterm elections were absolutely devastating for Republicans. On the national level,
00:04:10.320 the only worst midterm election for a political party in recent history was 1994,
00:04:14.800 when the Republicans destroyed the Democrats. But that doesn't even take into account the
00:04:18.820 governorships and the statehouses. So when you factor all of that in, this is the worst
00:04:23.500 drubbing, certainly for Republicans, since the Nixon era, since Watergate. And so he says,
00:04:28.300 okay, we need to make a change. Does it therefore follow that it's all Susie Wiles' fault? I don't
00:04:33.360 think so. I just think the point is now in this new environment where you've got Democrats who
00:04:38.400 are going to dominate Capitol Hill and the governorships, and they're going to be going
00:04:41.580 for Trump left, right, and center, you probably need a different kind of chief of staff. I think
00:04:46.260 that's what Trump is saying. So he says, all right, we need to change. And what do you get
00:04:49.640 with Miller? You get much more overt belligerence, which I'm into. That's great. And you also get
00:04:57.440 stability. That's the key. Something that Susie Wilds provided very, very well was stability.
00:05:01.720 You know, she was this rock solid anchor in the White House.
00:05:06.140 And I think Miller is also going to provide that stability.
00:05:09.140 The way that some people are describing it is that now Trump demands a wartime conciliere.
00:05:14.160 You know, he needs, it's not that necessarily Wiles or Stephen are better than each other in any general context.
00:05:24.620 It's that now we got the barbarians at the gates and you need a different kind of personality.
00:05:29.500 So in any case, I think Trump is right.
00:05:31.180 think she did a great job in her role. I don't think she's going to take the whole fall for the
00:05:37.420 midterms. It's not like she was running the political operation. But Stephen Miller, I think 0.98
00:05:42.320 he's going to, I think he'll do a great job in the role. But two, I think that he's going to
00:05:46.920 provide a little morale boost to the base at a time when the base definitely needs it. He's got
00:05:52.580 the effectiveness. He's got the ideological clarity. He's got the belligerence. But he's
00:05:57.180 also got that stability because he's been with Trump from the beginning. Okay. Then, when it
00:06:02.900 comes to the press secretary, big idea floated over the last few days. President Trump announced
00:06:08.100 Dana White, the head of the UFC, Dana White's going to be the new press secretary. Well, he
00:06:13.880 turned it down, but he was offered the role of the new press secretary, allegedly. And some people
00:06:19.100 thought it would be a nice blonde lady, as Trump seems to prefer. Some people thought it might be
00:06:24.420 a male political commentator, debates, and Scott Jennings or someone like that. No, Dana White,
00:06:31.380 head of the USC. Trump says, I am pleased to announce that the great Dana White, a violent
00:06:35.380 fighter and warrior, has been offered the job of press secretary of the United States.
00:06:40.220 I've requested that he bring with him assistance, even though they are not from our country,
00:06:44.080 of Islam, Makachev, Ghabib, Norma Gomedov. You can tell I'm not, I don't watch a ton of UFC,
00:06:52.760 But Justin Gaethje, Daniel Cormier, Amanda Nunes, and Kayla Harris, we need these people to defend 0.53
00:07:02.620 us against the lunatic left. Dana will be a press secretary like none other. Dana, please take the
00:07:06.900 job, President Donald J. Trump. So for the people who just don't, a dozen years in, they still don't
00:07:11.680 get it. They think that Trump was seriously offering the press secretary job to the head
00:07:15.480 of the UFC, his longtime friend of many decades. I think it's pretty clear reading his diction,
00:07:21.560 that's not what he was doing. He's making a joke. And apparently the origin of the joke is that
00:07:26.960 Trump was given a short list. This is according to the reporting. Trump was given a short list
00:07:30.960 of people who had applied for the press secretary job who might be good for it. And one of those
00:07:34.660 people is this woman, Dana W. White, who was a public affairs person at the Pentagon. And she
00:07:41.060 is not Dana White, the UFC guy. She doesn't look like him at all. But the now story circulating
00:07:49.240 among the left is Trump sees this name on the sheet, mistakenly believes it's referring to
00:07:55.960 the head of the UFC, and then just offers him the job. That's not what happened, obviously.
00:08:01.400 If it is the case that this woman's name was on the shortlist, it probably just made him laugh
00:08:05.700 and say, wouldn't it be funny if we gave it to Dana White? And then he composes this over-the-top
00:08:10.340 tweet about how he needs to bring all of these fighters in. And that's where the element of
00:08:13.640 truth is. He's not actually offering the spokesman job to Dana White. The element of truth is we're
00:08:18.840 in a new era that is going to require a new kind of belligerence. And President Trump just sat down
00:08:23.920 with Ross Douthat on 60 Minutes, and he dealt with this tension of, do you work with the Democrats
00:08:30.680 who are taking over Capitol Hill, or do you fight to the death like this is Thermopylae?
00:08:35.420 You know, what's the new tone? President Trump expressing both in a 60 Minutes interview,
00:08:42.240 but definitely more the belligerence than the working together. So speaking of antipathy toward
00:08:48.040 conservatives and belligerents the big story going around social media right now dave chapelle
00:08:53.400 was doing some show you know it looks like you got a big crowd and in the show he does a joke
00:09:00.320 i guess it's a joke there's no real punchline the joke was that he feels really really happy
00:09:07.100 that charlie kirk was murdered i feel i'm saying this it's scary being a public speaker
00:09:15.780 And I mean, look, ever since that guy, Charlie Kirk, got murdered, and I shouldn't say this publicly, but I feel better.
00:09:33.780 I know I shouldn't say that, but it's just appealing.
00:09:39.960 I didn't ask you this way. I'd just be driving around like, why am I in such a good mood?
00:09:45.780 so that's the joke now you might be saying all right that sounds like a setup to a joke what's
00:09:55.900 the punch line i think that's just it the joke is he's happy that charlie kirk was murdered
00:10:06.020 okay is there any more context there are people who are reporting from this show who said yeah
00:10:12.020 it's not really much more context. Here's the only other line that Dave used about Charlie.
00:10:20.460 I'm sure Charlie Kirk is looking up at us right now.
00:10:23.580 Okay, now this provides a little more of a context clue because the people who really
00:10:33.160 want to defend Dave Chappelle here, they're saying, no, no, no, you don't understand. It's
00:10:37.100 an esoteric comedy bit that is riffing on a joke that Tony Hinchcliffe made about George Floyd
00:10:44.000 at the roast of Kevin Hart. You're not enough of a comedy nerd to understand this esoteric
00:10:51.040 conversation he's having with Tony Hinchcliffe. Here's Tony Hinchcliffe doing the bit on George
00:10:55.280 Floyd. You've done good though, Kevin. The black community is so proud of you right now.
00:11:01.140 George Floyd is looking up at us all laughing so hard that he can't breathe.
00:11:08.060 God bless you, Kevin.
00:11:10.080 Okay, so, so, so.
00:11:12.420 First of all, if Dave is referencing the Tony Hinchcliffe bit,
00:11:16.940 we should know for those apparent aficionados of comedy,
00:11:20.720 this is a very old joke to say,
00:11:22.560 all my enemy is looking up at me right now.
00:11:24.800 First time I heard it was a Catholic priest referencing Martin Luther.
00:11:27.820 Okay, this is used by everyone on all sides
00:11:30.460 as a joke about historical figures or dead enemies or whatever,
00:11:34.140 looking up at you.
00:11:35.680 Now, there is more specific diction here where he says, he's looking up so hard he can't,
00:11:39.820 he's laughing so hard he can't breathe. So in the case of George Floyd, that makes a lot of sense
00:11:44.680 because George Floyd asphyxiated. Some say it was because of the officer's knee on him. Probably it
00:11:50.040 was from the four times the lethal dose of fentanyl that was in him. So Dave Chappelle is probably
00:11:55.480 referencing that in this second joke about Charlie Kirk. He says he's laughing so hard he can't
00:12:00.480 breathe. That doesn't make as much sense other than I guess the fact that Charlie was murdered
00:12:04.140 by being shot through the neck.
00:12:05.360 But again, it wasn't
00:12:06.000 that he was shot through his airway
00:12:07.160 or he died of asphyxiation
00:12:08.160 or anything like that.
00:12:09.040 So if that is a reference
00:12:10.780 to the George Floyd joke,
00:12:11.880 it's very clumsy.
00:12:12.740 It's also clumsy because
00:12:14.020 part of the George Floyd joke
00:12:15.860 that Tony Hinchcliffe was making
00:12:17.400 is on the absurdity of George Floyd,
00:12:20.020 who was a career criminal,
00:12:21.500 being exalted as some kind of
00:12:23.420 saint or paragon of virtue.
00:12:24.920 That was what was so absurd.
00:12:26.560 George Floyd was killed
00:12:27.940 resisting arrest for many, many minutes
00:12:30.140 after having immediately committed a crime
00:12:32.100 while committing another crime
00:12:33.340 over the drugs that he had taken.
00:12:36.200 And then he died probably of a drug overdose,
00:12:38.260 but we all have to pretend
00:12:39.800 that it was because Derek Chauvin
00:12:40.940 had his knee on his back.
00:12:41.980 In any case, you can't really compare that
00:12:45.480 to Charlie Kirk, who was murdered by a leftist, 0.77
00:12:48.960 a pro-trans leftist,
00:12:52.360 for saying that men and women are different.
00:12:55.000 Ironic when it comes to Dave Chappelle,
00:12:57.100 because Dave Chappelle got in trouble
00:12:58.260 a few years back for making fun of transgenderism. 1.00
00:13:00.520 And then a bunch of trannies 1.00
00:13:01.720 threatened to murder Dave Chappelle 1.00
00:13:03.040 and he walked it back. He ran away scared and he doesn't make the jokes anymore.
00:13:06.900 Apparently one of them like left a note in his hotel room, essentially saying we're watching
00:13:11.340 you. And then Dave Chappelle said, oh, all of a sudden I don't want to make tranny jokes anymore. 0.99
00:13:14.620 So, okay, what should we do about this as conservatives? That's the real question. 1.00
00:13:18.480 What do we do? We don't support cancel culture, right? And we think comedians should tell
00:13:23.360 whatever jokes they want, right? And Dave Chappelle is a great genius, right? And I don't know, man,
00:13:27.420 this is where I'm really lucky because while all of the conservatives, many, many of them,
00:13:33.040 jumped on the anti-cancel culture, pro-free speech absolutism bandwagon in 2016, 2017,
00:13:40.000 2018. I did not. In fact, I wrote a whole book about how that was all really silly and we should
00:13:44.720 support censorship in certain cases, and all societies have taboos, and it's good to cancel
00:13:49.260 people for the right reasons. So I'm in a nice position here where I think, all right,
00:13:54.320 I guess Dave Chappelle should be canceled. Whatever. I think Dave Chappelle, and I've
00:13:58.760 always thought that Dave Chappelle is extremely overrated. I watched Chappelle's show a little
00:14:02.940 bit when it was on over 20 years ago now, and there were a few funny sketches. The Wayne Brady
00:14:08.720 sketch was very funny, more because of Wayne Brady than because of Dave Chappelle, but Dave
00:14:13.060 Chappelle was good in that sketch. The Rick James stuff was pretty funny. The one where Dave is a
00:14:19.240 black Ku Klux Klan guy, it was a little clunky, but it was fairly funny. His later stuff, though, 1.00
00:14:24.880 is not that good. I remember for a while, everyone was laughing and raving about how he had this
00:14:32.160 really funny bit on Jussie Smollett. But I didn't think it was funny at all. The only thing about
00:14:36.580 Jussie Smollett that he did was he just pronounced it with a French accent. That was supposed to be
00:14:39.980 the joke. So I don't know. I didn't get that one. Dave hasn't been all that relevant for about 20
00:14:43.760 years now. He was buddies with Norm Macdonald, and he made fun of transgenderism. So conservatives
00:14:49.880 buoyed him up for a little bit. But I don't know. I thought he was always overrated for the last 20
00:14:53.980 years, certainly since the end of Chappelle's show, he's become this kind of dime store George
00:14:58.180 Carlin. George Carlin, who was also insufferable by the end of his career, and he gets up on stage.
00:15:02.640 He doesn't really tell all that many jokes, and he just tries to philosophize. I remember even
00:15:07.600 some years back, Dave did this whole bit about Candace, where he just said, I hate Candace, 1.00
00:15:12.460 and she's stupid, and he made kind of gross, obscene comments about her. But that was it. 1.00
00:15:18.120 That was the whole joke. There wasn't even a punchline, and all the conservatives said,
00:15:20.700 oh, we need to be welcoming of this.
00:15:22.420 And I don't know, I never thought it.
00:15:24.100 I have no problem canceling people for the right reasons.
00:15:26.940 In this case, there really was no joke.
00:15:29.080 If it was a reference to Hinchcliffe,
00:15:30.620 it was a clumsy reference, it doesn't work.
00:15:33.440 And then the main part of the joke
00:15:34.540 is just that he's happy that Charlie Kirk was murdered.
00:15:36.560 So I just think like, all right,
00:15:38.460 I never cared that much about Dave Chappelle.
00:15:40.120 He's totally dead to me.
00:15:41.580 He should be canceled.
00:15:42.560 I have no problem with that.
00:15:44.040 He's obviously, his star has faded a lot
00:15:46.020 over the last 20 years,
00:15:47.040 but in as much as an aging comedian
00:15:49.320 can be canceled for this,
00:15:51.240 Cancel them.
00:15:51.820 That's fine.
00:15:52.700 No big deal.
00:15:54.280 No great loss.
00:15:56.120 I don't intend to watch any more Dave Chappelle specials, but I haven't watched very many in recent years anyway.
00:16:02.060 Okay.
00:16:02.740 Unfortunate, but I don't see any reason to defend it.
00:16:06.140 Based on what?
00:16:07.040 The sacred principle of absolute free speech with no censorship?
00:16:10.420 That's a liberal idea, not a conservative idea.
00:16:12.220 Based on what?
00:16:13.920 Dave's deep conservative bona fides?
00:16:16.940 Dave's comedy is grounded in liberalism 0.71
00:16:20.020 and black identitarianism, if anything, 1.00
00:16:23.140 with the occasional joke about a tranny 0.96
00:16:25.100 that he got too scared to do
00:16:26.360 starting about five years ago.
00:16:27.700 So, all right, that's deep conservatism.
00:16:31.320 I don't think we need to defend him ideologically.
00:16:34.200 Why? Because he's so funny.
00:16:35.540 His last funny bit was a joke
00:16:36.760 with Wayne Brady 20 years ago.
00:16:38.320 Like, I don't know, man, it doesn't,
00:16:40.280 it's sad, too bad.
00:16:41.320 He wanted attention.
00:16:42.800 He wanted some more relevance.
00:16:44.160 He got it for a week or two,
00:16:45.340 but you don't need to defend the Dave Chappelle joke. You can be a conservative and not defend
00:16:53.500 Dave Chappelle's stupid joke. Okay. Now, much more to get to because there's another woman 1.00
00:16:58.520 who is getting canceled. She's a prominent left-wing streamer and podcaster. She's getting 1.00
00:17:02.620 absolutely destroyed for a Charlie Kirk joke, as she should be. Now she's running scared because
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00:18:32.400 You know this woman, Jennifer Welch? 0.50
00:18:34.100 She came out of nowhere. 1.00
00:18:35.420 She's some old crone, some absolute witch. 1.00
00:18:38.080 and she threatens violence against conservatives 1.00
00:18:41.000 and is just the absolute worst caricature
00:18:43.640 from a fever dream of what a conservative
00:18:45.680 thinks a leftist believes.
00:18:47.820 She just went viral for making fun 0.92
00:18:51.240 of the murder of Charlie Kirk.
00:18:54.480 Dead Moro says,
00:18:55.980 we're digging up Charlie Kirk and doing it again.
00:19:06.400 I'm zooming in for Fox.
00:19:07.760 You can't stop laughing. 0.90
00:19:08.720 It's this other witch as well, Angie Sullivan. 0.97
00:19:17.460 They can't get it together. 0.87
00:19:18.960 No comment.
00:19:19.900 It's so funny.
00:19:20.740 No comment.
00:19:21.360 No comment on that.
00:19:22.760 It's so funny.
00:19:23.260 He was shot by somebody that was super MAGA family.
00:19:25.840 He was shot by a MAGA person.
00:19:27.520 Right.
00:19:27.740 Okay.
00:19:28.200 What?
00:19:28.840 Do that with what you will.
00:19:30.560 White person, white MAGA family.
00:19:33.020 mag only only thing i ever saw him wearing i've never seen him wear any trans thing was a mag 0.98
00:19:38.440 hat yeah um okay so a little fact check fact check charlie was murdered by a pro tranny leftist 0.86
00:19:45.560 who was dating a male furry and he inscribed left-wing slogans onto the bullets that he used 0.81
00:19:50.960 to murder charlie kirk antifa slogans so why did she say that at the end after laughing at the
00:19:56.900 murder of charlie for however long clearly the murder of charlie tickled her she realized oh
00:20:01.080 shoot. I might have gone too far. This might blow back on me. So you know what? No, he was murdered
00:20:06.600 by a right winger. Well, first of all, the fact that you were just laughing at this for 40 seconds
00:20:11.660 shows that the murder of Charlie Kirk was the sort of thing that appealed to the left,
00:20:16.040 not to the right. But two, you don't really believe that, do you? That seems like a little
00:20:22.400 bit of a CYA. No, no, no, no, no. He was a right winger, wasn't a left winger. Obviously,
00:20:27.020 all of the evidence says it was a left-winger. Regardless, this woman has a podcast. I guess
00:20:31.860 some people listen to it, and she has a bunch of sponsors on that podcast. So, there was some
00:20:37.280 blowback to this, and she didn't address it for days and days and days. Then, sponsors started
00:20:44.140 to cancel. Chewy, like the granola bar, Cash App. Few people started to cancel her, okay?
00:20:53.140 then we get some other sponsors starting to cancel her. And then it becomes dozens of sponsors
00:21:00.660 canceling her. So this woman's career, such as it is, is getting absolutely brutalized. 1.00
00:21:06.500 And she decides she's going to apologize. She sends out an apology, but it's not a real apology.
00:21:10.580 She says, oh, I'm so sorry. I would never joke about gun violence. Donate to every town gun
00:21:16.300 control organization now. So she's trolling the conservatives, even in her fake apology, 0.96
00:21:21.420 where she says, yeah, no, I would never joke,
00:21:24.100 not about the murder of conservatives,
00:21:25.420 not about political violence,
00:21:26.520 not about the murder of Charlie Kirk.
00:21:27.700 I would never joke about gun violence.
00:21:30.740 Donate to your local gun control agency today.
00:21:33.120 So it's a way just to troll conservatives.
00:21:34.840 Even if it had been a sincere apology,
00:21:36.520 there would need to be consequences. 0.99
00:21:37.740 But in this case, she's just flipping the bird at us. 0.87
00:21:39.500 So there are a few more sponsors
00:21:41.720 that have not yet canceled her.
00:21:43.320 One is Article, which is a furniture store, I guess.
00:21:45.700 One is Quince, which is a big outlet
00:21:49.320 that ships from Hong Kong or something.
00:21:50.920 One is Momentus Supplements, and one is the ASPCA Pet Insurance.
00:21:55.300 So, write this down.
00:21:56.440 If you're driving, pull over.
00:21:58.360 If you're standing up, sit down.
00:22:00.180 Article, the Article Furniture Company, their phone number is 1-888-746-3455.
00:22:07.060 Write that one down.
00:22:08.860 Quince, the outlet company, 1-888-618-9322.
00:22:15.440 Momentus Supplements, the number is 1-800-357-8714.
00:22:19.880 and ASPCA Pet Insurance,
00:22:22.400 1-866-204-6764.
00:22:25.000 I would strongly encourage you
00:22:26.540 to call all of those companies
00:22:28.600 and express your displeasure
00:22:30.720 with the comments of this woman
00:22:32.280 that they're sponsoring
00:22:33.560 and make it clear to them
00:22:35.280 that you will never purchase their product
00:22:36.780 if they continue to sponsor this woman.
00:22:39.200 It's not enough that this woman
00:22:41.000 lost dozens of her sponsors, 0.95
00:22:42.940 most of her sponsors.
00:22:44.100 That's not enough.
00:22:45.100 She needs to lose all of them. 0.96
00:22:46.440 She needs to lose her job. 1.00
00:22:47.580 She needs to become poor financially. She needs to be ostracized from polite society. 1.00
00:22:52.800 She needs to be excluded from society. She needs to feel the pain of having violated what should 0.99
00:23:00.640 be a very serious taboo. They say that the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward
00:23:06.320 justice. That's how I feel about this free speech cancel culture issue. Having been a voice in the
00:23:12.220 wilderness for a long time on this issue among the right, where they say that we have to totally
00:23:17.280 support free speech. That's not how it works. That is a left-wing concept. And when that idea
00:23:23.720 of free speech absolutism was introduced to the United States in the 60s, it was done by the left
00:23:28.400 to destroy the prevailing taboos of society so that they could gain power, so that they could
00:23:32.820 reimplement their own taboos and persecute normal people. That's what happened. So we need to bring
00:23:39.080 this back on them. We need to ruin this woman's professional life, not her personal life. I hope 1.00
00:23:43.620 she converts. I hope she cooperates with God's grace, and I hope she has fulfillment ultimately.
00:23:49.220 But in terms of her career, in terms of her job, she needs to be completely destroyed. Absolutely.
00:23:54.480 And it is good. That kind of censorship is good. Dave Chappelle should feel the consequences
00:23:59.560 of that joke. That's a good thing. And the kind of neutered liberal conservatism that says that
00:24:06.420 we need to laugh as our enemies are threatening us and joking about our murder, that ain't my
00:24:11.960 conservatism. I know some people like to say, well, you know, I'm a classical liberal. I'm a
00:24:16.200 libertarian. I'm a true liberal. I'm not. I'm not a true liberal. I'm not an old liberal. I'm not
00:24:23.420 any kind of liberal. I'm not a classical liberal. I like to think that I'm classical, but I'm not
00:24:26.840 a classical liberal. I ain't any kind of that. I'm a conservative. I'm a right winner. And these
00:24:32.020 people are about to feel very, very empowered, and we need to take as many wins as we possibly can.
00:24:37.720 This is the age for a wartime conciliere, okay?
00:24:40.300 This is the age for a little bit of rhetorical and political belligerence.
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00:26:10.500 obviously, last Tuesday was brutal for conservatives. There was one very
00:26:14.480 interesting result that has conservatives arguing with each other. So this is going to be the theme
00:26:19.820 of the next two years is what is conservatism? What's the future of conservatism in the post-Trump
00:26:23.900 era? Well, here's one that might get your finger scratching your head. North Dakota had a ballot
00:26:30.040 measure calling for a state constitutional amendment that would require all public schools
00:26:38.840 to provide free breakfast and lunch to students. And the ballot measure failed, barely. It was
00:26:45.220 50.6 to 49.4. It failed by 3,000 votes or less. And this is one, call me a boomer conservative,
00:26:55.200 I don't care. This is one where I think, I'm very glad this ballot measure failed
00:27:01.080 because parents should feed their kids, actually. It seems to me one of the basic truths of all
00:27:09.560 political society is that parents should feed their kids. And I say it's kind of a boomer con 0.92
00:27:16.800 point of view because the more boomer conservative point of view is that we never want any more
00:27:22.300 government spending. We never want to grow the size of the state. We need to shrink the government
00:27:25.860 and we want financial austerity. We want to cut welfare programs. And younger conservatives,
00:27:31.020 especially Gen Z and some millennials, they're more open to using government power. They're not
00:27:36.200 perfectly laissez-faire libertarian on economics. They're not totally opposed to social solidarity
00:27:44.360 or what have you. But this would be, I think, a good area of an intersection between these views
00:27:49.560 because the reason to oppose this ballot measure has basically nothing to do with money. Yes,
00:27:55.180 I guess it could raise taxes a little bit, or it could spend money differently, and I'm sure it
00:27:59.020 would be very inefficient. And I'm sure the free market could better take care of this issue. Yeah,
00:28:03.000 whatever. That's not the point. The reason that I oppose free breakfast and lunch as a mandate
00:28:11.200 from the state constitution and all public schools, the reason I oppose that is because
00:28:15.580 of what it does to the parents, because it encourages parents not to take care of their
00:28:19.860 kids, and it puts a Band-Aid over a problem, which is child abuse and child neglect.
00:28:23.840 The obvious rejoinder when I say that parents should feed their kids, actually, is they'll say,
00:28:28.940 well, some parents don't. Did you know that, Michael? Some parents will not feed their kids
00:28:36.280 two out of three meals a day. Maybe they'll give them dinner, but they won't give them breakfast.
00:28:40.260 they won't give them lunch. And so, therefore, the schools need to provide free lunch. There's
00:28:46.360 no such thing as a free lunch, but that's why the schools need to take taxpayer dollars to give
00:28:52.120 every kid breakfast and lunch. And I would say, okay, if your argument is that some parents
00:28:58.540 starve their children, that's your argument for this ballot measure, I think we have a bigger
00:29:03.500 problem. Wouldn't you say? I guess I would be willing to vote for the ballot measure to have
00:29:10.500 government pay for breakfast and lunch in schools if when the student accesses the breakfast and
00:29:16.380 lunch program, the parent gets arrested. If you could say, okay, here's my card for my free
00:29:21.820 breakfast and my free lunch. And then as you swipe the card, the cops show up and arrest the parents.
00:29:27.920 I'm fine with that. That's cool. Because it's not about the money. I don't care. I'll pay extra
00:29:31.040 money for a kid to eat. I don't want any kid to starve ever. The problem is when you rely on this
00:29:38.840 kind of a program, when you say there's a massive demand for this kind of a program, what you're
00:29:43.320 saying is there are parents, many parents who are starving their children, and we're not going to
00:29:49.980 do anything about it. We're not going to punish the parents. Now, you could say, well, the parents,
00:29:55.920 you know, the parents, they don't have enough money to feed their kids. They don't have enough
00:29:58.740 money to feed their kids? I bet you in 100% of cases, if you go to that parent's house,
00:30:05.020 you could find some discretionary spending. You could find a few packs of cigarettes.
00:30:09.380 You could find some electronics. You'd probably find some harder drugs
00:30:12.060 that are being used rather than buying your kid a turkey sandwich.
00:30:17.760 So you say, well, what should we do? Okay, well, here's what I would do.
00:30:20.640 If a parent is depriving his or her child of two out of three meals a day, I would put that parent
00:30:27.340 in prison, and I would put that kid in another home, you say, well, that's better. Foster care
00:30:35.100 system's bad. This system's bad. Maybe. It ain't as bad as your parents starving you two out of
00:30:39.920 three meals a day. Now, at this point, the libs who are pushing for this kind of ballot measure,
00:30:45.480 they'll say, no, no, no, no, it's not that bad. It's not that bad. Okay, well, then tell me the
00:30:48.140 truth. Is this really about parents starving their kids for two meals a day or not? If it is,
00:30:52.700 we need to arrest the parents. If it's not, why are we paying for free breakfast and lunch?
00:30:57.340 Do we want to encourage further child abuse and neglect on the part of these parents?
00:31:00.960 Or do we want to create a society which is supposed to be conducive toward the common good,
00:31:05.660 which is supposed to help people to grow in virtue?
00:31:07.380 Are we going to create a society where the parents at the bare minimum are encouraged to feed their children?
00:31:14.120 What do you think it is? 0.62
00:31:15.260 I think it would have to be the latter.
00:31:18.080 This is how I feel about the campus rape culture, me too stuff.
00:31:21.620 where they say the libs say on the one hand they say that harvard yard is more dangerous for women 0.99
00:31:27.740 than the back alleys of botswana one in three women who goes to a college campus goes to an 1.00
00:31:32.500 ivy league school gets raped along the way you say whoa whoa whoa is that really that's true
00:31:37.000 one in three one in four women who go to ivy league universities are going to get raped while 0.79
00:31:41.540 they're there better shut them all down oh you believe okay well if one in three women is getting 0.97
00:31:48.700 raped at Harvard, we need to close down Harvard tomorrow. Oh, we shouldn't close down Harvard? 0.96
00:31:56.140 Oh, you don't even want us to slightly defund the gender studies department at Harvard? You 0.82
00:32:00.980 don't want us to? Hold on. So you must not really believe that. Well, okay, I'll tell you what,
00:32:05.160 at the very least, if one in three women is getting raped at Harvard or Princeton or wherever, 1.00
00:32:10.560 then surely we need new courts. We need to hire more judges, more police officers. 0.90
00:32:16.560 We need to put all of these cases on trial.
00:32:19.380 Oh, you don't want to do that either?
00:32:21.400 You just want little tribunals of professors to ruin the lives of young men over unsubstantiated allegations?
00:32:27.940 Oh, so you don't.
00:32:28.720 Okay, so what I take from that is you don't really believe that there's a rape culture on college campuses.
00:32:34.900 There's something else going on. 0.99
00:32:36.200 There's a hookup culture. 0.93
00:32:37.360 There's the sexual revolution. 0.89
00:32:39.060 There is feminism.
00:32:40.540 There is sexual regret. 1.00
00:32:41.660 there is all these things that are direct consequences of your stupid ideology that 1.00
00:32:46.680 you don't want to get rid of so you want to band-aid over the problems caused by your ideology 1.00
00:32:50.880 and you want to ruin innocent people's lives in the in the meantime okay same thing here
00:32:56.280 feed your kids breakfast and lunch if you cannot afford to feed your kids breakfast and lunch
00:33:01.040 take recourse to a charity or the substantial welfare state that we have for people who cannot
00:33:06.600 do that sort of thing. If you can't do that, if you can't take welfare dollars, EBT, your local
00:33:13.280 food pantry, your local church, if you can't avail yourself of that to give your kid a freaking 0.87
00:33:18.180 peanut butter and jelly sandwich, then your kids need to be taken away from you. Do you really mean 0.91
00:33:23.500 that? Is that really what you think is going on? No. Or do you just want to grow a government
00:33:27.140 program and get people more hooked on the teat of liberal school administrators? If it's the latter,
00:33:31.940 I'm glad that failed. Okay. Now, let's get to the future of conservatism. Let's get to the
00:33:38.080 future of this administration because President Trump just sat down with Ross Douthat of 60
00:33:42.980 Minutes, an illustrative interview going on all of the big issues that people are talking about
00:33:48.140 out of the midterms. Corruption, immigration policy, even President Trump's eternal soul.
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00:35:20.060 My favorite comment from Friday.
00:35:23.020 I didn't pick this.
00:35:23.760 This was actually the producers.
00:35:25.200 We'll see if they were right.
00:35:25.860 is from don't care, says, I'm safe. I have Caucasian skin, but I identify as a trans
00:35:31.680 black Asian with a Mexican mother and Indian father. I'm safe, right? Safe from what? I
00:35:35.120 actually don't remember the context of that. The context, I don't remember the context.
00:35:41.860 That isn't my favorite comment. That isn't my, producers, maybe someone in the comments can
00:35:46.440 explain to me why that was their favorite comment. I don't know. That one didn't do it for me.
00:35:50.600 President Trump sits down with Ross Douthat.
00:35:53.320 He is asked about corruption.
00:35:57.320 There's a Forbes story that said that your net worth,
00:36:00.860 maybe it's changed with the stock market recently,
00:36:02.940 but your net worth went up by $3 billion.
00:36:05.660 Well, so did everyone.
00:36:06.660 Since you returned to...
00:36:07.740 Okay, you ready?
00:36:08.620 Everyone's, my net worth did not go up by $3 billion.
00:36:11.520 Well, you should have had stock.
00:36:13.360 I should have...
00:36:14.460 You should have had stock.
00:36:15.380 I should have had stock.
00:36:16.520 Excuse me, so...
00:36:17.840 How did...
00:36:18.240 I devote, I devote...
00:36:19.460 How did it go up by $3 billion?
00:36:20.460 Well, let me explain.
00:36:21.460 I devote almost no time to my net worth.
00:36:24.140 I don't care.
00:36:25.140 I have a lot of money and far more than I ever thought I'd have.
00:36:29.040 And I guess it's gone up.
00:36:31.220 I don't even know.
00:36:32.560 I have a son who's a very straight, good guy.
00:36:37.480 He watches over money.
00:36:39.320 I don't even talk to him about it.
00:36:40.640 He watches.
00:36:41.640 He gives.
00:36:42.640 They gave my money.
00:36:43.640 I have a lot of cash.
00:36:44.640 I've had a lot of cash long before I came in here.
00:36:46.580 I don't take a salary, you know?
00:36:48.780 Okay, so Trump is saying, you're calling me corrupt.
00:36:51.340 Yeah, my net worth has increased.
00:36:52.880 It's because the stock market went up.
00:36:54.400 That's true.
00:36:54.800 The stock market did go up a lot, especially before the Iran war and a recent ding to tech stocks
00:37:00.520 because the head of NVIDIA might have been sleeping with a Chinese spy.
00:37:04.340 And anyway, and because the Democrats won.
00:37:06.460 And maybe we should do a whole episode dedicated to the role of these tech stocks in our economy
00:37:13.620 and how we're all about to get this wrecked.
00:37:15.880 But that's neither here nor there.
00:37:18.140 So the real reason President Trump's net worth is increased, according to Forbes,
00:37:22.900 which did this analysis, is two reasons. One, President, one, three, I guess, because you
00:37:29.980 say the stock market a little bit, but it's two main reasons. One, President Trump's media company,
00:37:34.860 Trump Media, went public through a SPAC before President Trump reentered office.
00:37:40.780 After Trump was booted out of the White House by corrupt people, and while he was in the
00:37:46.180 Interregnum, when he was a private citizen, he'd been a billionaire for a very, very long time,
00:37:51.060 Trump started a media company. Also because Trump was booted off of all the social media
00:37:54.560 platforms. So he said, well, if I want to talk to people, I have to start my own media company.
00:37:57.860 That company did well. It went public through a SPAC, and Trump made a ton of money on that.
00:38:02.660 Before he was president, it's not an emoluments issue. He didn't even try to start the media
00:38:06.520 company. It's not like he ran for president to start a media company. He was already a major
00:38:09.640 media star, but he had to start the social media company because he got booted off all the social
00:38:13.560 media platforms, illegitimately. Okay, so that's that. And then Trump got a piece of a crypto
00:38:18.920 meme coin, which everyone knew was a meme coin. So you might think meme coins are bad or frivolous
00:38:24.120 or whatever, but they're not dishonest. Meme coins are pretty open. They're these kind of like jokes.
00:38:29.360 They're kind of like gambling. President Trump has known a thing or two about gambling. He used
00:38:32.600 to own casinos in Atlantic City. That's it. That's how his net worth went up, according to Forbes.
00:38:37.440 So you can say, well, I don't like Trump's media companies. Okay, whatever. I don't like meme coins.
00:38:42.320 fine. Neither of those is corrupt. Where's the corruption? This is the irony. The Democrats
00:38:49.200 are really going to go after Trump on corruption. They're not going to get him on anything.
00:38:53.500 They might get people around him, two or three circles out from him. I mean, it's Washington,
00:38:57.820 D.C. There's a lot of corruption in D.C. for either political party in any administration.
00:39:02.460 I don't think you're going to get Trump, though. What's the allegation?
00:39:06.000 This is one of the arguments for having rich people be president. It's harder to corrupt
00:39:09.920 rich people because they already have their own money. It's much easier to corrupt poor people
00:39:13.180 because they don't have any money, so they got to dial for dollars, and then they're puppets of
00:39:16.160 donors. So I don't think you're going to get them on that. Also, if there were some big smoking gun
00:39:21.880 on corruption, wouldn't they have gotten him already? They've tried to prosecute this guy
00:39:25.920 four times. They've impeached him twice. They tried to murder him. They haven't gotten him.
00:39:30.740 I don't think so. Corruption is going to be a very, very big issue once the Democrats retake
00:39:35.780 the House. That's, I think, where their focus is going to be, is they're going to try to find
00:39:39.280 corruption to just poison the air for any 2028 presidential candidate on the right.
00:39:45.440 I don't think they're getting Trump, though.
00:39:47.980 How are they going to get him? 0.99
00:39:49.040 It's very easy to say, oh, I think Trump is corrupt. 0.71
00:39:52.180 Point it out to me, because even Forbes could not do that. 0.72
00:39:57.080 Okay, next one.
00:39:58.700 This is a little more troubling.
00:40:01.460 President Trump was asked about the role of his immigration policies in the midterms.
00:40:05.340 And he proposes getting a little softer on immigration.
00:40:11.800 What is one thing you would like to work with a Democratic majority on?
00:40:15.500 I'd love to do something on immigration.
00:40:17.920 What?
00:40:18.440 Because, well, so-
00:40:20.700 Do you think immigration hurt you in the midterms?
00:40:23.420 Do you think the crackdown hurt you?
00:40:24.560 I think it both helped and hurt.
00:40:26.180 I think I got an A plus for closing up the border.
00:40:29.220 I get very high marks for getting the bad ones out.
00:40:31.620 But I get hurt because we also took people that had good jobs that created one violation for breaking of the law, and that was that they came into the country illegally.
00:40:43.680 Now, there is a large part of the country that think that they should be put out, and there's a large part of the country that think that they should be allowed to stay.
00:40:52.100 If they're good people working in a landscaping company or working in a hotel or doing something, right?
00:40:58.740 And in some cases paying taxes.
00:41:01.720 And there's a large group of people think that they should be allowed to stay.
00:41:05.220 So you think your deportation policy went too far?
00:41:08.440 It was too tough.
00:41:09.120 I think it might be too tough, yeah.
00:41:10.500 What would happen?
00:41:11.400 What does the deal look like with the Democrats?
00:41:12.900 I think ultimately that hurt me.
00:41:14.140 Well, the deal would be we would work something out.
00:41:16.980 And I think it's something, I think that's something that's actually doable.
00:41:19.860 doable to create some kind of some kind of legal status for the landscapers and okay okay what's
00:41:26.800 going on here what's going on let me see if i can understand this it could be the case that what
00:41:32.420 trump is saying is literally true that he thinks that he was too tough on the immigration crackdown 0.71
00:41:37.000 and he's got to deport the violent criminals but he should let other illegal aliens stay
00:41:42.060 and possibly even give them some kind of legal status it he could mean that he might just mean
00:41:48.380 that. We'll get to that in a second. But it is a little strange, isn't it, that President Trump
00:41:54.340 makes these comments when at the same time he appoints as his chief of staff, arguably the most
00:42:00.060 powerful person in Washington, D.C., the most prominent immigration hardliner in American 0.98
00:42:06.340 politics, Stephen Miller, who wants to deport everybody and their grannies and their dry 0.81
00:42:12.700 cleaner too. That's very strange. We need to go softer on immigration. Also, I'm appointing
00:42:17.660 Stephen Miller, chief of staff. That seems like those two things are in tension, right?
00:42:22.400 So what could be happening here is Trump is going on 60 Minutes, which is a very mainstream show on
00:42:27.540 a network television station. And he's just trying to assuage the American people and say,
00:42:33.860 no, no, I'm going to be much more mainstream. I want to work with the Democrats. I'm the reasonable
00:42:37.220 one. And so when the Democrats come in all belligerent, then they're going to look like
00:42:40.860 the unreasonable ones that might help his approval. It could be that. I hope that that's
00:42:43.880 what's going on here. Let's take Trump at his word, though. Let's say that what he's saying is,
00:42:49.140 no, no, no, we went too far, and we need to allow a lot of illegal aliens to stay, 0.98
00:42:54.880 and actually, we might even give them legal status. This would be, I think, a bad idea. 0.98
00:43:00.920 I think Trump knows this deep down. There's no negotiating with these people. I think he knows
00:43:06.100 this better than anybody. And in fact, an interview that he gives later to Ross Douthat
00:43:09.200 reveals that. But there's not going to be some kumbaya. They're not going to pass major
00:43:13.300 legislation. Trump's going to be Don Vito Corleone, where he's just going to shoot down everything
00:43:17.440 the Democrats try to pass. They're not even going to try to pass all that much. They're just going
00:43:20.480 to try to subpoena and persecute everyone around Trump. So I don't think he gets any upside for
00:43:25.260 going soft on immigration. The other thing is mass migrations became a mainstream political issue
00:43:30.140 that won practically the popular vote in 2024. And you can't have mass deportations if you're
00:43:34.600 only deporting the people with face tattoos. There aren't enough face tattoos. There aren't
00:43:38.440 enough MS-13 members. You could message that you're arresting the people with the face tattoos,
00:43:44.200 but in order to have real mass deportations from a position when you have the highest foreign 0.97
00:43:48.460 percentage of the population ever, you need to deport abuela. You need to deport abuela. 0.95
00:43:55.900 I'm sure abuelas are very, very nice. I like them. I'm not a huge fan of Mexican food,
00:44:01.240 actually, but I like a lot of the Latin American culture, especially cigars.
00:44:04.940 it's nothing against them personally.
00:44:07.060 But either you have the rule of law or you don't.
00:44:09.340 Either you have a coherent society or you don't.
00:44:12.220 Either you think that immigration has created a major problem of assimilation and social solidarity,
00:44:16.720 or you don't, or you think immigration is just fine.
00:44:19.080 But most people don't think immigration is just fine.
00:44:21.500 And most people's problem with immigration is not just that MS-13 is committing ritualistic,
00:44:26.720 satanic murderers with their face tattoos.
00:44:28.640 Most people think the problem of assimilation is that you walk down the street 0.98
00:44:32.080 and you don't recognize your own country.
00:44:33.320 and the customs have changed
00:44:34.620 and the way of life has changed
00:44:35.800 and people are speaking a language
00:44:36.920 that you don't want to hear. 1.00
00:44:38.200 That's the problem.
00:44:39.660 This has been true going back to antiquity
00:44:41.060 for all manner of polities.
00:44:42.640 So if that's the issue, 0.99
00:44:44.080 you have to deport Abuela,
00:44:46.600 even if the hotel lobby doesn't like it,
00:44:48.460 even if the farmer's lobby doesn't like it.
00:44:51.660 You know, Josef de Mestre,
00:44:53.120 a very important counter-enlightenment thinker,
00:44:54.960 he made this point that has been reiterated
00:44:57.100 by many others over the years,
00:44:58.200 that every nation gets the government it deserves. 0.89
00:45:00.960 And so people do want to deport all the illegals because it creates social problems, 0.92
00:45:07.300 but they want to keep their favorite illegal. 0.91
00:45:09.780 They want to keep the guy who runs the landscaping business.
00:45:13.300 They want to keep their guy.
00:45:14.980 They want to keep this person.
00:45:16.040 So they want contrary things.
00:45:18.180 They don't want mass migration, but they do want the welfare state, 0.69
00:45:21.640 but they don't want to have kids. 0.93
00:45:22.860 Okay, well, one of those has to give.
00:45:24.480 These are the tensions in government.
00:45:26.420 And so I feel for Trump because he's dealing with all of these things.
00:45:28.980 even it goes to the iran war 90 of americans don't want iran to get a nuclear weapon 90
00:45:35.280 of americans don't want to go to war in iran well uh what are we supposed to do with that
00:45:38.820 i feel for the guy but he his defining issue in as much as he is defined by an issue
00:45:47.860 it is this immigration hardline view he cannot give it up he can i don't know who's chatting
00:45:54.080 in his ear he cannot give it up and i feel better that stephen miller will be in his ear
00:45:57.580 because Stephen Miller has the right view on immigration.
00:45:59.600 Okay, before we go, I know we're running late.
00:46:01.380 I don't care.
00:46:03.160 Where this whole interview leads
00:46:04.940 is what will happen to President Trump when it's all over.
00:46:07.920 Not when the second term is all over.
00:46:09.840 When his life is all over.
00:46:11.120 When he's going up,
00:46:12.500 he's chatting with St. Peter at the pearly gates
00:46:14.880 looking forward to seeing the very face of God.
00:46:18.500 Would Trump be willing to forgive his enemies?
00:46:23.740 But I think facts come through jokes.
00:46:26.780 You said, quote, I hate my opponents, and I don't want the best for them.
00:46:32.860 Let's say you pass away.
00:46:35.660 You're entering the next life.
00:46:37.360 And all you have to do to enter paradise is feel love and forgiveness for James Comey, Nancy Pelosi,
00:46:48.280 anyone who you have expressed hate for over the years.
00:46:52.040 Do you think you can do it?
00:46:53.140 Well, then I wouldn't be real, would I?
00:46:54.660 I mean, if I said to you, sure, the easy answer to that, oh, yes, I could forgive.
00:46:58.540 No, I don't think it's an easy question at all.
00:47:00.360 I found them to be extremely dishonest people, very bad people, very bad for our country.
00:47:04.040 I love our country far more than I can love people and people like that.
00:47:08.300 Is the answer no?
00:47:09.180 The answer is no.
00:47:10.060 I want to be honest.
00:47:11.020 Before the judgment throne of God.
00:47:12.440 Before the judgment.
00:47:13.360 No, I think there were very bad people.
00:47:15.380 And I dislike, I can use the word hate.
00:47:17.940 I do hate some of my enemies.
00:47:19.500 I think they've been terrible.
00:47:20.900 Look what they put me through, the weaponization.
00:47:23.600 I got indicted, I got impeached.
00:47:25.020 Mr. President, Mr. President,
00:47:26.500 you have had the most charmed and remarkable life
00:47:30.300 of any American in my entire lifetime,
00:47:33.400 and you are telling me you couldn't find it in your heart
00:47:36.140 to forgive some of your enemies?
00:47:39.260 After all that's been given to you?
00:47:41.020 I mean, it's such an easy answer.
00:47:42.520 All I have to do is say, yes, I can.
00:47:44.580 Again, I don't think it's an easy answer.
00:47:46.740 That's why I asked you.
00:47:47.260 Can I be honest?
00:47:47.980 I probably cannot do that now,
00:47:50.000 because I do hate some of my enemies,
00:47:51.920 and I always will.
00:47:52.820 i shouldn't laugh because this is a serious issue but i i remember it was at charlie's
00:47:59.700 memorial that erica came out and she musters the courage to say i i forgive the person who
00:48:05.780 has done the most wrong to me ever in my life that i could even possibly imagine i i forgive
00:48:09.740 that person not as a matter of like he should get off the hook but as a matter of personal
00:48:14.240 forgiveness which christ calls on all of us to do and it's this amazing moment and then trump
00:48:18.000 gets on stage and he says, I don't, I hate my enemies and I do not wish what is best for them.
00:48:24.340 Just an amazingly hilarious, brutal, honest take that Trump here says, he goes, I wouldn't be being
00:48:31.560 real if I said that. Okay. So as a matter of religion and as a matter of our eternal souls,
00:48:38.980 you actually do have to forgive your enemies because God forgives us because we've sinned
00:48:44.840 against an infinitely good God, and we could never make up that debt ourselves. So Christ
00:48:49.440 dies on the cross for us, for the sins of everyone. Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they
00:48:55.300 do. He prays for his persecutors, even as they're killing him. And so in the Lord's prayer, we
00:49:00.420 forgive others the sins that they commit against us, just as we ask for forgiveness from God the
00:49:06.660 Father. Okay. Okay. So that's just a true matter of religion. However, I was laughing during Trump's
00:49:13.000 answer because Trump is not saying I think Christianity is false. Trump is not saying
00:49:18.900 I think Christ is wrong. Trump is not saying that it's bad to forgive your enemies. He's not saying
00:49:24.300 he's not he's not disagreeing with Christian forgiveness in principle. In fact, he's kind
00:49:29.320 he's almost agreeing with in principle. It's such an easy answer, isn't it? I should just say yes,
00:49:33.900 I could forgive them. But I just I just want to be honest with you, Ross. I hate them. I hate these
00:49:39.660 people. They tried to destroy my life. They tried to destroy my family. They tried to put me in 1.00
00:49:43.960 jail. They tried to kill me. I hate them. I hate them so much. And I don't want to lie. I don't 0.51
00:49:50.040 want to commit another sin and tell you that I would forgive them. I hate them and I'll always
00:49:55.180 hate them. So truly, I love President Trump. I love the guy. I think he's great. I voted for him 0.92
00:50:01.560 every time and he's just, I just, I love the guy. I speak New York, you know, so I think I
00:50:08.260 understand what he's saying in a way that maybe some other people don't. And he's great. So I
00:50:13.400 care about Trump and I want him to go to heaven someday. And he does actually need to, ultimately,
00:50:18.920 he does need to learn to forgive his enemies. However, the one thing I will say for President
00:50:23.320 Trump's answer here, which is a little, maybe it's a little too rosy, but there's something to it.
00:50:29.100 I am reminded when he speaks frequently, but especially when he says things like this of
00:50:33.340 Matthew chapter 18, verse 3. And Christ says, you must become like a little child to enter
00:50:39.460 into the kingdom of heaven. And I just think, just a hypothetical, you got two people,
00:50:43.840 some slick, dirty, filthy politician comes out and says, oh yeah, of course I would forgive my 0.99
00:50:49.980 enemies. I must, I'm a paragon of Christian virtue. Meanwhile, this guy's shitting everyone 1.00
00:50:55.060 he knows behind him, just doing the worst, nastiest, duplicitous, fraudulent things, right? 0.98
00:50:59.900 there's that guy that's the normal politician then you get trump he goes look i'm gonna be real i
00:51:05.520 hate my enemies so much and yeah i probably shouldn't and i should probably forgive them
00:51:09.260 but i just can't i just i'm not i i am personally not capable of that and i hate them and i yeah i
00:51:14.460 got to figure that out huh at the very least trump in that circumstance is displaying a childlike
00:51:22.500 behavior maybe some would say maybe childish a little bit but it is at least childlike where
00:51:28.600 you know, like a five-year-old says, I don't want to forgive my brother. I hate him. I took my toy.
00:51:32.780 I don't, there is at least something to that. So anyway, we should pray for President Trump.
00:51:36.140 He should ultimately forgive his enemies, but there's something, there's something childlike
00:51:41.260 about that. There's something very honest about, about his take on that. Okay. I really want to
00:51:45.180 get to, I know I teased it off the top. The Democrats are promising to go after not just
00:51:49.040 Trump and not just the people around Trump and not just the people in the government,
00:51:53.460 private corporations that have not towed the left-wing line. They're promising to go after
00:51:58.340 private industry. They're promising to go after you. They're promising to go after your kids.
00:52:04.300 If your teenage kid even thinks about volunteering on a Republican campaign,
00:52:07.400 it is about to get real, real nasty. It's going to make Dave Chappelle's joke look like a walk
00:52:13.260 in the park. But we have to get to that tomorrow. The rest of the show continues now. You do not
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00:52:28.340 Father, I used to feel Christ.
00:52:38.080 I cannot feel anything here.
00:52:51.080 They take me out of my bed, and they brought me here, and they tell me nothing.
00:52:56.100 What have I done?
00:52:57.060 Article 58.
00:52:58.340 counter-revolutionary activity that is all i know they have to deal with so many enemies
00:53:04.820 of the state all of whom claim their innocence who protest who cry
00:53:16.900 there are no answers here
00:53:20.580 other than the ones they put in your mouth you'll break
00:53:23.220 today is your opportunity to demonstrate your loyalty to the people
00:53:30.260 i'd like to know why i'm here of course
00:53:35.040 but you're already now don't you you must believe in something greater than the party
00:53:43.620 you will remember your duty i've told you i know nothing
00:53:47.300 And he growled like a feral animal. 1.00
00:53:51.300 You stink of failure. 1.00
00:53:53.300 You want me to lie. 1.00
00:53:54.300 Still a drunk! 1.00
00:53:55.300 Damn you! 1.00
00:53:58.300 They all break. 1.00
00:54:02.300 Maybe.