The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 217 - George Orwell’s Diversity University

00:00:00.000 An extensive survey of Yale's incoming freshman class has found that the class of 2022 will be, quote,

00:00:07.040 the most diverse in university history.

00:00:09.680 They'll be 5% homosexual, 9% bisexual or transsexual, 8% asexual, and 3% unwilling to answer the question,

00:00:18.280 which sounds pretty coy-sexual to me.

00:00:20.420 Also, they're all leftists.

00:00:22.180 We will analyze the increasingly homogenous diversity on campus and what can be done about it.

00:00:27.440 Then, speaking of diversity, the Dalai Lama defends nationalism in Europe.

00:00:32.340 Drink up, folks.

00:00:33.800 And Twitter bans Oldspeak.

00:00:35.440 Finally, the mailbag.

00:00:36.360 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:45.420 By the way, I'd like to make a correction.

00:00:47.160 I'm sorry.

00:00:47.820 I, how insensitive of me, I use the word freshman to describe the incoming class.

00:00:53.060 Obviously, fresh man is a sexist term, so I should say fresh person.

00:00:58.540 Well, except, of course, that son is a sexist term, too.

00:01:02.920 So I guess it should be fresh per daughter.

00:01:05.980 The Yale Fresh Per Daughter class.

00:01:07.800 We'll analyze the incoming Fresh Per Daughter class.

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00:02:46.060 Okay, we've got a ton of stuff to get to today, so we've got to get right into it.

00:02:49.320 A lot of chakras are going out of alignment today.

00:02:51.900 A lot of...

00:02:52.420 Do you hear it happening?

00:02:53.680 All the crystals and the chakras just going out?

00:02:55.760 A lot of people, they were doing their sun salutations.

00:02:58.080 Now they're doing downward-facing dog because the Dalai Lama is defending nationalism in Europe.

00:03:03.340 This is a beautiful thing.

00:03:04.780 It's one of those news stories where, do I care what the Dalai Lama says?

00:03:09.160 Not really.

00:03:09.840 Do I even care that much about what's going on in European politics?

00:03:13.120 Not really.

00:03:13.920 But when these things line up like this, it is just too good.

00:03:16.900 Because every little hippy-dippy, unshowered, you know, wild-haired weirdo walking around Los Angeles

00:03:23.580 with their Bernie bumper stickers on is now going to be very upset.

00:03:27.280 They all do yoga.

00:03:28.280 Yoga has become the church of millennials.

00:03:30.720 millennials and the Dalai Lama defending nationalism, which makes perfect sense.

00:03:35.220 He probably was listening to our show yesterday, and that's why he did it.

00:03:38.200 Because we've been talking about nationalism now for a couple of days.

00:03:41.360 And by the way, I don't know if the Dalai Lama is looking for a new job,

00:03:45.080 but my own church, the Catholic Church, could use some new bishops.

00:03:47.980 And it sounds like this guy is at least right about a few things.

00:03:50.840 So maybe consider applying.

00:03:52.660 The Dalai Lama was at a conference in Sweden yesterday.

00:03:54.720 Yesterday, this was three days after the right-wing party in Sweden,

00:03:59.820 which is called the Sweden Democrats.

00:04:01.740 I see why that's confusing.

00:04:02.820 But they're the right-wing party there.

00:04:04.320 They did very well in the general elections.

00:04:07.420 And so he was speaking in Sweden.

00:04:10.060 And I think the left was expecting him to say,

00:04:13.000 look, reject right-wing politics.

00:04:15.520 Open borders, man.

00:04:16.940 Come on.

00:04:17.720 Let's all, you know, kumbaya.

00:04:20.440 But he didn't say that.

00:04:21.240 He said, quote, Europe belongs to the Europeans.

00:04:25.520 Receive them, help them, educate them.

00:04:28.200 But ultimately, they should develop their own country

00:04:31.280 with regard to the Islamic refugees, the immigrants who are over there.

00:04:35.300 Europe belongs to the Europeans.

00:04:38.160 This is a truism.

00:04:39.460 This shouldn't be a controversial statement.

00:04:41.880 Of course that's true.

00:04:42.920 Europe belongs to the Europeans.

00:04:44.100 America belongs to the Americans.

00:04:45.580 China belongs to the Chinese.

00:04:46.740 That is the definition of the nation.

00:04:49.720 But now to say that is controversial.

00:04:51.960 It's seen as racist.

00:04:53.240 I don't know how it's racist.

00:04:54.280 There are a lot of different races in Europe.

00:04:55.700 But somehow that's considered racist now.

00:04:57.640 Because you have floods and floods of Islamic migrants

00:05:01.480 coming across borders in Europe and flooding these countries.

00:05:04.820 In many cases, invading these countries

00:05:06.340 with the protection of the European Union,

00:05:09.040 with the encouragement of the European Union.

00:05:11.040 There was that great book on it,

00:05:12.560 The Strange Death of Europe, by Douglas Murray, I think.

00:05:15.640 It came out a little while ago.

00:05:16.780 Excellent book on this topic.

00:05:18.020 It talks about whole Italian towns being overrun

00:05:20.920 by Islamic migrants coming across borders.

00:05:25.280 And what the Dalai Lama is defending here

00:05:27.060 is the right of European nations to remain European nations.

00:05:30.400 I get why the left is surprised by this,

00:05:32.900 because the Dalai Lama is a cool, like, hippy-dippy guy.

00:05:35.720 If anybody's going to be a nationalist,

00:05:37.300 it's going to be the Dalai Lama.

00:05:38.840 He has been fighting for the right of the nation of Tibet

00:05:41.400 against the imperial encroachments of China

00:05:44.580 for all of our lifetimes.

00:05:46.340 He went on.

00:05:47.940 He said, quote,

00:05:50.100 I think Europe belongs to the Europeans.

00:05:52.280 They ultimately should rebuild their own country.

00:05:55.440 And he said, by the way,

00:05:56.680 this wasn't just a reaction to Trump.

00:05:58.320 It's not like he is playing some political game

00:06:01.500 and he's saying, oh, I see Trump is popular.

00:06:03.040 Okay, I'll mimic him.

00:06:04.300 In 2016, before Donald Trump was elected,

00:06:07.080 the Dalai Lama said, quote,

00:06:08.120 Europe, for example, Germany,

00:06:09.880 cannot become an Arab country.

00:06:11.340 Germany is Germany.

00:06:12.040 There are so many that in practice it becomes difficult,

00:06:15.680 meaning there are so many migrants coming across the border.

00:06:18.300 He said, as we all feel,

00:06:19.940 when we look into the face of every single refugee,

00:06:22.200 especially the children and women,

00:06:23.640 we can feel their suffering.

00:06:25.760 And therefore, we should help them.

00:06:26.840 Of course, we should help them.

00:06:28.020 The goal, however,

00:06:29.040 should be that they return and help rebuild their countries.

00:06:32.400 End quote.

00:06:32.800 That, again, should not be controversial.

00:06:37.020 When we're talking about refugees,

00:06:38.420 why would we have refugees come over

00:06:40.280 from a totally foreign region of the world

00:06:43.340 to a totally foreign region of the world

00:06:45.360 rather than people within their own neighborhoods

00:06:47.680 helping to take care of them?

00:06:49.160 Why wouldn't we want to rebuild those countries?

00:06:51.160 Perhaps there is a problem in certain cultures there.

00:06:53.980 Perhaps there are conflicts among cultures over there.

00:06:56.620 Why would we import wholesale,

00:06:58.880 unvetted, those sort of cultural problems?

00:07:02.140 This is,

00:07:04.440 this used to be a progressive position.

00:07:07.080 This used to be accepted by the left and the right

00:07:11.060 because in the old days you had imperialism.

00:07:14.480 And then in the wake of the Second World War,

00:07:16.620 we had a surge of nationalism.

00:07:19.340 India becomes a nation.

00:07:20.580 The countries in the Middle East

00:07:21.440 get to become their own nations.

00:07:22.380 Countries in Africa.

00:07:23.380 This was the height of freedom

00:07:24.700 because the nation can protect liberty for individuals,

00:07:27.680 for communities, for different groups

00:07:29.560 without descending into anarchy on the one hand

00:07:32.940 or becoming oppressive and imperial on the other hand.

00:07:35.940 So I understand that the orthodoxy of the left right now

00:07:39.220 is that we need to become one world government

00:07:41.560 under a totally benevolent empire.

00:07:43.440 Oh, it'll be different this time.

00:07:44.500 It'll be totally benevolent.

00:07:45.800 But perhaps the left should look to

00:07:47.600 some of the people that for a long time it's admired

00:07:49.900 like Dalai Lama to see where they've gone so, so wrong.

00:07:53.340 And in the meantime, we can fill up our leftist tears.

00:07:55.440 So the Dalai Lama is on one side of that.

00:07:56.820 But Twitter is now on the other.

00:07:59.620 Twitter banned the phrase in its advertising platform.

00:08:03.400 It banned the phrase illegal alien

00:08:05.080 because that's hate speech.

00:08:07.700 That's hateful content now.

00:08:09.180 You can't say illegal alien.

00:08:10.660 Illegal alien is not a hateful phrase.

00:08:13.320 Illegal alien is the precise technical term

00:08:16.700 for illegal aliens.

00:08:18.140 All the other things are euphemisms.

00:08:20.400 Dreamer, undocumented future, whatever.

00:08:23.460 Those are euphemisms that don't precisely describe

00:08:26.760 what we're talking about.

00:08:27.880 Illegal alien does.

00:08:29.980 But Twitter doesn't care.

00:08:31.520 Jack Dorsey, the head of Twitter,

00:08:32.860 basically admitted to shadow banning 600,000 accounts

00:08:36.180 because Twitter is an international company.

00:08:38.580 It views itself as an international company.

00:08:40.200 It doesn't have bonds of national loyalty.

00:08:43.000 When the right and the left at various points

00:08:45.540 complain about multinational corporations,

00:08:47.700 they do have one point,

00:08:50.160 which is that these supranational,

00:08:52.260 extra transnational organizations

00:08:54.680 don't have the same priorities that you and I do

00:08:58.260 because they don't have loyalty to communities

00:09:00.320 and to states and to countries.

00:09:01.720 They're bigger than that.

00:09:02.900 And this brings us to the Yale of it all

00:09:04.300 because Yale calls itself,

00:09:06.280 even in recent years,

00:09:07.120 even when I was there,

00:09:08.080 they call themselves a global university.

00:09:11.680 Not an American university,

00:09:12.960 a global university.

00:09:14.840 The catchphrase for Yale used to be

00:09:17.040 for God, for country, and for Yale,

00:09:19.540 in that order.

00:09:20.380 But now that is not the case.

00:09:21.640 Now it is an international university.

00:09:23.540 It touts all the time

00:09:24.400 how many foreign international students

00:09:26.320 are coming in there

00:09:27.020 and always trying to increase that number

00:09:29.640 in part because they pay a lot of money to go.

00:09:32.180 And there was a magazine when I was there.

00:09:34.080 I think it still exists.

00:09:34.960 It's called the Yale Globalist.

00:09:36.540 That was the very fashionable magazine

00:09:38.520 to write for as an undergraduate.

00:09:41.040 And now they talk about

00:09:41.780 the most diverse class ever.

00:09:45.460 And you say, oh, good.

00:09:46.620 Oh, thank goodness.

00:09:47.820 Because all I'm hearing is

00:09:48.880 this one point of view,

00:09:50.260 this one perspective.

00:09:51.520 The global university,

00:09:52.800 the globalist,

00:09:53.980 the left-wing progressive.

00:09:55.620 Oh, good.

00:09:56.060 Now we have some diversity.

00:09:57.280 What diversity do we get?

00:09:59.100 So when it comes to sexual diversity,

00:10:01.880 the old line at Yale

00:10:02.820 was one in four, maybe more

00:10:04.140 for gay students.

00:10:06.060 And now the numbers

00:10:06.980 are almost exactly that

00:10:08.420 in terms of students

00:10:09.540 who are not straight,

00:10:11.460 students who have

00:10:12.240 more creative sexual preferences.

00:10:14.920 The number actually

00:10:15.660 is close to one in four.

00:10:16.840 This is no surprise.

00:10:17.660 This has gone on a long time.

00:10:19.180 You know, Yale did turn out

00:10:20.180 Cole Porter.

00:10:21.060 I think American Psycho

00:10:22.160 said that that Yale thing

00:10:23.880 is when you have either

00:10:25.380 repressed homosexuality

00:10:27.120 or a cocaine addiction.

00:10:29.280 Maybe both.

00:10:30.100 I don't know.

00:10:31.740 But when you get down

00:10:32.920 to intellectual diversity,

00:10:34.160 ideological, philosophical diversity,

00:10:35.800 this wide-ranging study found

00:10:38.580 that just 9% of Yale

00:10:40.700 incoming students

00:10:41.580 consider themselves

00:10:42.820 somewhat conservative

00:10:43.840 and just 2% consider themselves

00:10:45.880 very conservative.

00:10:47.400 And let me translate that for you,

00:10:48.820 being familiar with how this goes.

00:10:51.900 Somewhat conservative at Yale

00:10:53.300 means that you don't think

00:10:54.720 that Mitt Romney is Hitler.

00:10:56.200 That's what somewhat conservative means.

00:10:58.500 Very conservative means,

00:11:00.480 I don't know,

00:11:01.680 that you registered

00:11:03.300 as a Republican at 18.

00:11:04.500 I think that probably counts.

00:11:05.580 You know, you have some,

00:11:07.640 you have an American flag bow tie

00:11:09.480 or something.

00:11:09.980 That's like very, very conservative.

00:11:12.360 And so we're talking about 2%

00:11:14.020 of pretty serious conservatives there.

00:11:16.100 There is very little

00:11:17.200 intellectual diversity.

00:11:18.680 Same thing on the faculty.

00:11:19.800 I saw some conservative faculty members

00:11:22.380 or would-be faculty members

00:11:23.520 get run out of town.

00:11:24.780 A 2016 survey by the Yale Daily News

00:11:26.600 shows that 95% of conservative students

00:11:28.920 felt that their views

00:11:29.960 were unwelcome at Yale.

00:11:31.920 And I don't want to beat up

00:11:33.500 on Yale too much,

00:11:34.280 but the reason that this is

00:11:35.520 a national story

00:11:36.680 is that Yale is representative

00:11:37.820 not just of some school in New Haven

00:11:40.460 but of all of these campuses

00:11:42.860 across the country

00:11:43.660 with very few exceptions.

00:11:45.220 They're all being overrun by the left.

00:11:47.280 They're all indoctrinating

00:11:48.300 rather than educating

00:11:49.560 to increasing degrees.

00:11:52.320 And we've got to find a way

00:11:54.360 to stop this.

00:11:55.360 You remember,

00:11:56.600 you know,

00:11:57.100 the craziness that kind of typified

00:11:59.080 the craziness on all campuses,

00:12:00.760 but it really was most prevalent,

00:12:02.900 I think,

00:12:03.380 at dear old New Haven

00:12:04.720 was Shrieking Girl

00:12:06.080 that came out a few years ago

00:12:07.340 just to refresh your memory

00:12:08.660 and because I need a little refill

00:12:09.920 on my Tumblr.

00:12:10.820 Take it away,

00:12:11.360 Shrieking Girl,

00:12:11.900 Gerald and Luther.

00:12:12.360 Stay quiet

00:12:13.820 for all Sillman schools.

00:12:16.100 Do you understand that?

00:12:17.540 As your position as master,

00:12:19.000 it is your job

00:12:20.200 to create a place of comfort

00:12:21.720 and home for the students

00:12:23.080 that live in Sillman.

00:12:24.780 You have not done that.

00:12:26.240 By sending out that email,

00:12:27.540 that goes against your position

00:12:29.120 as master.

00:12:29.980 Do you understand that?

00:12:31.480 No, I don't agree with that.

00:12:32.900 Then why the f***

00:12:34.040 did you accept the position?

00:12:35.820 Who the f*** hired you?

00:12:37.640 I have a different vision.

00:12:38.480 You should step down.

00:12:39.740 If that is what you think

00:12:40.740 about being a master,

00:12:41.640 you should step down.

00:12:43.240 It is not about creating

00:12:44.340 an intellectual seat.

00:12:45.600 It is not.

00:12:46.640 Do you understand that?

00:12:48.120 It's about creating a home here.

00:12:50.380 You are not doing that.

00:12:52.120 You're supposed to be

00:12:52.780 an advocate.

00:12:55.040 My favorite part of this video,

00:12:57.240 it's a very distressing video,

00:12:59.160 but my favorite part

00:13:00.000 is that guy at the end,

00:13:01.320 the advocate guy,

00:13:02.360 because you know

00:13:02.900 he was just standing there,

00:13:03.800 everyone's yelling,

00:13:04.580 everyone's trying,

00:13:04.960 he's like,

00:13:05.600 all right, Johnny,

00:13:06.320 this is your chance.

00:13:07.880 This is your chance

00:13:08.660 to finally,

00:13:09.440 what am I,

00:13:10.280 oh, I'll say,

00:13:11.340 yeah, that he was supposed

00:13:12.140 to be our advocate.

00:13:12.980 All right, everyone's talking.

00:13:14.340 All right, here,

00:13:15.160 you were supposed

00:13:15.660 to be our advocate.

00:13:16.500 Ah, nobody's talking anymore.

00:13:18.000 Oh, it's so embarrassing.

00:13:20.060 So awkward.

00:13:21.460 And the girl,

00:13:22.560 this girl should have been expelled,

00:13:24.180 right?

00:13:24.440 Geraldine Luther

00:13:24.940 should have been expelled

00:13:25.660 for this.

00:13:26.220 It is so horrifically disrespectful.

00:13:28.340 All of the students involved

00:13:29.360 screaming at their professor

00:13:30.780 should have been expelled

00:13:31.960 on the spot.

00:13:33.640 What happened?

00:13:34.360 Instead,

00:13:34.800 the students who led

00:13:36.560 this revolt on campus

00:13:38.100 were given awards

00:13:39.100 at their graduation.

00:13:40.400 They were given awards.

00:13:41.300 This is a really horrifying

00:13:42.500 turn of events.

00:13:43.440 You're seeing the American University,

00:13:45.060 not just at Yale,

00:13:45.920 but all around the country,

00:13:47.720 imploding.

00:13:48.480 And we're very lucky

00:13:49.480 because there is a guy

00:13:50.320 who is running

00:13:51.340 for the Yale Board of Trustees

00:13:53.660 on a campaign

00:13:54.580 to turn this around

00:13:55.940 to make sure

00:13:57.120 that events like this

00:13:58.180 never happen again,

00:13:59.520 not at Yale.

00:14:00.100 And hopefully,

00:14:00.680 this can be a signal

00:14:01.480 to all of the universities

00:14:03.120 around the country

00:14:03.740 to stop this.

00:14:04.720 Jamie Kirchick

00:14:05.280 is an American reporter,

00:14:06.300 foreign correspondent,

00:14:07.380 candidate for the Yale

00:14:08.020 Board of Trustees.

00:14:08.940 I spoke to him last week.

00:14:10.200 Here's Jamie.

00:14:12.240 Jamie,

00:14:12.740 thank you so much

00:14:13.260 for being here.

00:14:15.140 Thanks for having me.

00:14:16.340 So, Jamie,

00:14:17.320 obviously,

00:14:17.980 I feel a personal connection

00:14:19.100 to your campaign

00:14:19.960 because you're running

00:14:20.940 for the Yale Corporation,

00:14:22.620 for the Yale Board of Trustees.

00:14:23.600 But I think your campaign

00:14:25.440 and the issues

00:14:26.100 you're talking about

00:14:26.940 actually reflect

00:14:28.540 a national trend

00:14:29.860 that's going on

00:14:30.760 on colleges,

00:14:31.940 that's going on

00:14:32.600 at universities

00:14:33.300 across the country.

00:14:34.880 Why are you running

00:14:36.080 for the Yale Board of Trustees?

00:14:39.340 Well, like you say,

00:14:40.460 I think our universities

00:14:41.820 play a major role

00:14:42.880 in educating future leaders,

00:14:45.080 in Yale in particular,

00:14:46.120 in the Ivy League.

00:14:47.180 And a lot of the ideas

00:14:48.500 that come out of universities

00:14:50.240 that become popular

00:14:51.080 in universities

00:14:51.640 eventually seep their way

00:14:52.820 into the general public.

00:14:54.540 And I think over

00:14:55.020 the past couple of years,

00:14:55.880 we've seen at Yale

00:14:56.620 and many other universities

00:14:57.620 growing intolerance

00:14:59.160 for differing viewpoints.

00:15:01.240 And not necessarily

00:15:01.860 conservative viewpoints,

00:15:02.940 by the way.

00:15:03.440 I mean,

00:15:03.720 the clip that you just showed,

00:15:05.980 you know,

00:15:06.700 it wasn't a right-wing

00:15:07.500 professor being yelled at.

00:15:08.780 It was a quite liberal one.

00:15:09.940 So things are,

00:15:11.020 I think,

00:15:11.160 getting out of hand.

00:15:13.460 You know,

00:15:13.740 just two weeks ago,

00:15:14.440 we had this huge,

00:15:15.280 or last week,

00:15:15.900 excuse me,

00:15:16.280 this huge controversy

00:15:17.220 with the New Yorker

00:15:18.540 canceling an interview

00:15:19.560 with Steve Bannon.

00:15:22.100 I'm no fan of Steve Bannon.

00:15:23.600 I've criticized him

00:15:24.420 many times in print.

00:15:26.060 But to pretend that,

00:15:27.480 you know,

00:15:27.760 he or his ideas,

00:15:29.340 you know,

00:15:30.100 don't exist

00:15:30.800 and that they're not influential

00:15:32.140 and they actually

00:15:32.920 haven't been used

00:15:33.780 to win elections

00:15:35.100 in major countries

00:15:36.240 across the Western world.

00:15:37.880 You know,

00:15:38.100 from a left-wing perspective,

00:15:39.220 I don't see how

00:15:40.140 that actually helps you

00:15:41.280 to just sort of

00:15:42.100 put your fingers

00:15:42.640 in your ears

00:15:43.200 and pretend that

00:15:43.820 these things don't exist

00:15:45.460 and wish them to go away.

00:15:46.680 So I've been really disappointed

00:15:48.540 at what I see

00:15:49.460 as a kind of climate

00:15:50.240 of growing

00:15:50.880 intellectual intolerance

00:15:52.780 on the Yale campus

00:15:54.120 in particular,

00:15:55.600 but also across the country.

00:15:56.980 And I think that,

00:15:57.780 you know,

00:15:58.420 alumni of these institutions

00:16:00.320 really need to

00:16:01.380 try to exercise

00:16:02.580 some more influence

00:16:03.860 because they're really

00:16:04.540 the only part,

00:16:06.100 they're the only constituency

00:16:07.520 of the university

00:16:08.640 that I think

00:16:09.380 has any chance

00:16:10.140 of fixing this.

00:16:11.420 That's absolutely right.

00:16:13.020 When a few years ago

00:16:14.020 when we saw that clip

00:16:15.540 from Yale of the girl,

00:16:16.820 you know,

00:16:17.160 this is not an intellectual space,

00:16:19.540 this is not,

00:16:20.160 it's a home,

00:16:20.900 and, you know,

00:16:21.500 shrieking at her,

00:16:22.460 shrieking profanity

00:16:23.520 at her professor.

00:16:24.780 You've seen this happen

00:16:25.740 so many other places as well.

00:16:27.440 One thing I love

00:16:28.100 about your candidacy

00:16:29.200 is that you're not

00:16:30.540 some rock-ribbed conservative.

00:16:32.920 I don't think you're

00:16:33.660 a hard-line Republican

00:16:34.860 in your own work.

00:16:37.340 And yet you're reflective

00:16:38.780 of this view now

00:16:39.760 in the center

00:16:40.320 and among independents

00:16:41.380 and reasonable-minded people

00:16:43.320 that even if I disagree

00:16:44.900 with speech,

00:16:45.840 we should permit free speech,

00:16:47.340 especially on a campus.

00:16:48.740 Right.

00:16:49.700 Yeah, no,

00:16:50.360 I mean,

00:16:50.500 I'm probably center,

00:16:52.600 maybe vaguely center right

00:16:54.180 politically.

00:16:54.740 I voted for Hillary Clinton.

00:16:56.500 I endorsed her

00:16:57.520 just to give your listeners

00:16:58.380 an idea.

00:16:59.700 We'll forgive you.

00:17:00.280 I've lived overseas.

00:17:04.380 I've lived overseas.

00:17:06.620 I've lived in,

00:17:07.580 you know,

00:17:07.820 other Democratic countries

00:17:08.860 that don't have

00:17:09.480 the same culture

00:17:10.320 of free speech.

00:17:11.380 That the United States does.

00:17:12.860 And I've really just come

00:17:13.680 to appreciate

00:17:14.240 how lucky we are.

00:17:16.460 And of course,

00:17:17.080 you know,

00:17:17.300 do we hear things

00:17:18.520 that we don't like?

00:17:19.480 Absolutely.

00:17:20.480 You know,

00:17:20.700 Alex Jones

00:17:21.420 is sort of

00:17:22.460 the cost of free speech.

00:17:24.180 It's the crazy homeless guy,

00:17:25.980 you know,

00:17:26.500 shouting,

00:17:27.220 you know,

00:17:28.260 curses at you

00:17:29.000 as you go to work.

00:17:30.400 But you have to put up

00:17:31.480 with that.

00:17:31.820 You can't just put

00:17:32.260 the homeless guy in prison

00:17:33.260 for screaming something

00:17:34.380 that you don't like.

00:17:35.140 And so I really

00:17:36.920 am an absolutist

00:17:38.240 when it comes to this.

00:17:39.920 I think it's a small

00:17:40.900 L liberal position.

00:17:42.680 I think it's a position

00:17:43.480 that frankly,

00:17:44.100 throughout history,

00:17:44.840 it's usually been people

00:17:46.100 on the left

00:17:46.600 whose free speech

00:17:47.560 has been quashed.

00:17:49.660 I mean,

00:17:49.800 if you go back

00:17:50.320 to,

00:17:50.760 you know,

00:17:51.480 the Palmer Raids

00:17:53.020 around World War I,

00:17:54.880 McCarthyism,

00:17:56.100 the various,

00:17:57.020 you know,

00:17:57.160 very controversial

00:17:57.840 art exhibitions

00:17:58.700 that were put up

00:18:00.560 during the 80s

00:18:01.160 and 90s,

00:18:01.880 it's usually people

00:18:03.520 on the left.

00:18:04.360 But now I think

00:18:04.940 that the left

00:18:05.380 has basically

00:18:05.920 come to dominate

00:18:07.260 media,

00:18:09.000 academia,

00:18:10.340 cultural institutions.

00:18:11.240 They've now come

00:18:11.820 to dominate

00:18:12.360 these institutions.

00:18:13.860 They are now

00:18:14.780 in absolute total control.

00:18:17.220 And I,

00:18:17.740 it's just unfortunate

00:18:18.520 to see that they

00:18:19.160 haven't really learned

00:18:20.380 the lessons that,

00:18:22.100 you know,

00:18:22.200 when they were in need

00:18:23.200 of people to defend

00:18:24.020 their free speech,

00:18:24.800 they're now completely

00:18:25.820 flipped.

00:18:27.000 That's exactly right.

00:18:27.700 And they're going

00:18:28.060 after anyone.

00:18:28.960 Yeah.

00:18:29.440 Yeah.

00:18:29.840 Well,

00:18:30.060 if a university

00:18:30.880 doesn't have the free

00:18:31.860 exchange of ideas,

00:18:33.000 then where is going

00:18:34.260 to have a free

00:18:34.800 exchange of ideas?

00:18:35.760 You know,

00:18:35.940 I'm sure people

00:18:36.480 are looking at

00:18:37.700 your candidacy

00:18:38.600 and they're saying,

00:18:39.300 what can we do?

00:18:40.180 What can we do

00:18:40.740 to help bring

00:18:41.800 the universities

00:18:42.540 and liberal education

00:18:43.540 back from the brink?

00:18:44.920 So my question

00:18:45.840 has two parts.

00:18:46.600 One,

00:18:47.240 what will you do

00:18:48.200 when you're on

00:18:48.940 the Yale Corporation

00:18:49.720 board?

00:18:50.280 And what can other

00:18:51.120 people do

00:18:51.660 who are alumni

00:18:52.580 of other universities

00:18:53.520 or who are at

00:18:54.540 other universities

00:18:55.300 to try to stop

00:18:56.700 all the censorship,

00:18:57.900 stop the screaming,

00:18:59.120 stop the degradation

00:18:59.880 of the liberal

00:19:01.600 education culture

00:19:03.400 and actually reclaim

00:19:05.180 the free exchange

00:19:05.880 of ideas?

00:19:07.680 I think the universities

00:19:08.820 need to stop

00:19:09.620 putting up basically

00:19:10.700 kick me signs

00:19:11.520 on their backs

00:19:12.280 and they need

00:19:13.220 to make it very clear.

00:19:14.440 The administrators

00:19:15.220 need to make it

00:19:15.820 very clear

00:19:16.320 to incoming freshmen,

00:19:17.700 you know,

00:19:17.880 these are our values.

00:19:18.880 We believe in free speech.

00:19:20.000 There aren't going to be,

00:19:21.000 they're not going to be

00:19:21.480 shouting down speakers.

00:19:22.660 And so there's a very

00:19:23.320 excellent letter

00:19:24.920 that was,

00:19:25.540 you know,

00:19:25.920 written by,

00:19:26.620 I believe,

00:19:26.760 the Dean of Students

00:19:27.420 at the University of Chicago.

00:19:28.500 And it was sent out

00:19:29.680 to every incoming freshman

00:19:30.820 and it's very,

00:19:31.580 you know,

00:19:32.100 it's very blunt

00:19:32.700 and it says

00:19:33.200 there's no trigger warnings,

00:19:34.960 there's no safe spaces.

00:19:36.980 This is a place

00:19:37.840 for intellectual development

00:19:39.980 and debate.

00:19:42.360 And so I think

00:19:42.660 students coming to Chicago,

00:19:43.860 they already understand this

00:19:45.560 and if they really

00:19:46.560 don't like it,

00:19:47.220 then they're not

00:19:47.640 going to go to Chicago.

00:19:49.280 And so I really

00:19:49.760 would like to see,

00:19:50.580 you know,

00:19:50.860 if I'm elected

00:19:52.000 to the board,

00:19:52.600 I would urge

00:19:53.380 the president of Yale,

00:19:55.420 the Dean of Students

00:19:56.480 to send out similar letters.

00:19:58.660 Yale actually has

00:19:59.620 an excellent policy

00:20:00.800 known as the Woodward Report.

00:20:02.660 It was published in 1974

00:20:04.040 after some very high profile

00:20:07.620 controversial speakers

00:20:09.440 and riots

00:20:10.760 grew up around that.

00:20:12.280 The university

00:20:12.780 commissioned this report

00:20:13.740 and it's really looked

00:20:14.500 and cited upon

00:20:15.600 as being one of the best

00:20:16.560 expressions

00:20:17.680 in defensive free speech

00:20:18.800 in an academic setting.

00:20:20.180 I would send that

00:20:21.120 to every incoming freshman.

00:20:22.720 Perhaps

00:20:23.120 there's a program

00:20:24.920 that Princeton has

00:20:25.800 where they assign

00:20:27.240 all the incoming freshmen

00:20:28.520 to books

00:20:29.220 that are basically,

00:20:30.760 you know,

00:20:30.980 pro and con

00:20:31.640 on a very contentious subject

00:20:33.480 like abortion,

00:20:34.480 say,

00:20:34.800 a book that's in favor

00:20:36.600 of abortion rights

00:20:37.420 and one that is against it.

00:20:38.560 And all the incoming freshmen,

00:20:40.100 no matter what they're

00:20:40.640 majoring in,

00:20:41.240 even if they're going

00:20:41.840 to be majoring in,

00:20:42.700 you know,

00:20:43.380 astronomy or whatever,

00:20:44.440 they have to read

00:20:45.420 these books

00:20:45.780 and there'll be

00:20:46.100 a classroom discussion

00:20:47.620 about it

00:20:48.380 just to sort of

00:20:48.860 get them in the mood

00:20:50.460 and to inculcate

00:20:52.980 these values.

00:20:53.660 So those are some

00:20:54.140 of the ideas

00:20:54.540 that I've brought forth.

00:20:56.180 And then,

00:20:56.660 you know,

00:20:57.320 for me personally,

00:20:58.120 I'd love it

00:20:58.540 if your listeners,

00:20:59.200 if they know people

00:20:59.720 who went to Yale,

00:21:00.340 if they did go to Yale,

00:21:01.720 go to the website,

00:21:02.640 jamiefortrustee.com.

00:21:04.160 They can sign my petition

00:21:06.600 to get me on the ballot.

00:21:07.860 And I would just

00:21:08.260 encourage people,

00:21:08.940 you know,

00:21:09.120 most universities,

00:21:09.880 they have similar bodies

00:21:11.840 like the Yale Corporation.

00:21:13.640 They have boards

00:21:14.100 of trustees.

00:21:14.600 They have governing bodies

00:21:16.320 on which alumni

00:21:17.780 sit and play a role.

00:21:20.100 So that's,

00:21:20.660 you know,

00:21:21.520 do what I'm doing.

00:21:22.440 Run to be on the board

00:21:23.800 of trustees.

00:21:24.420 You can also,

00:21:24.980 frankly,

00:21:25.600 put your money

00:21:26.040 where your mouth is.

00:21:26.960 And if the university

00:21:27.660 that you are an alum of

00:21:29.680 is not,

00:21:31.340 you know,

00:21:32.820 behaving or not

00:21:34.220 defending enlightenment

00:21:35.500 values like you want them to,

00:21:37.740 then make it clear

00:21:38.560 to the financial office,

00:21:40.480 the giving office,

00:21:42.000 that you're not going

00:21:42.680 to be donating anymore.

00:21:44.280 And that's ultimately

00:21:44.940 what might have to happen

00:21:46.140 in order for,

00:21:48.360 you know,

00:21:48.520 real serious,

00:21:49.380 positive change

00:21:50.100 to take place.

00:21:50.720 That is such a good point.

00:21:52.640 I love it when

00:21:53.500 the fundraising committee

00:21:55.160 calls me

00:21:55.760 and they ask

00:21:56.840 for my annual $20

00:21:58.000 that I donate

00:21:58.960 to dear old Yale.

00:21:59.960 And I say,

00:22:01.240 no,

00:22:01.620 you're not getting it

00:22:02.480 this year.

00:22:03.280 Shut down the programs.

00:22:04.380 And I go on my long lecture

00:22:05.780 because you see this

00:22:06.900 at a lot of institutions,

00:22:07.900 even outside of education.

00:22:09.500 You hear,

00:22:10.420 get woke,

00:22:11.180 go broke.

00:22:12.100 People are really,

00:22:13.360 they don't want

00:22:14.340 this oppressive,

00:22:16.020 censorious

00:22:16.800 politics of division

00:22:18.680 shoved in their face

00:22:19.720 all the time.

00:22:21.040 And so I hope

00:22:22.100 it's very important

00:22:22.900 if you do know anybody

00:22:24.720 who went to Yale

00:22:25.460 or is at Yale

00:22:26.120 or whatever,

00:22:27.300 make sure you go

00:22:28.300 to jamiefortrustee.com

00:22:29.800 because I think

00:22:30.360 this is going to send

00:22:31.460 a message nationally.

00:22:33.280 You mentioned UChicago.

00:22:34.620 They had a great

00:22:35.480 statement on free speech.

00:22:36.960 Purdue University

00:22:37.940 under Mitch Daniels

00:22:38.840 had a great statement

00:22:39.680 on free speech.

00:22:40.600 And Yale is not living up

00:22:42.300 to the Woodward Report.

00:22:43.320 They're not defending

00:22:44.300 free speech.

00:22:45.740 So I wonder,

00:22:46.640 you know,

00:22:47.060 when the right

00:22:48.100 sort of lost

00:22:48.960 any influence

00:22:49.860 at all at universities,

00:22:51.240 they started think tanks,

00:22:52.700 there are other alternatives

00:22:53.940 to traditional

00:22:56.000 four-year college degrees.

00:22:57.860 Are we going to see

00:22:58.860 a shift away?

00:23:00.180 If the colleges

00:23:01.120 remain totally opposed

00:23:02.700 to free ideas,

00:23:04.120 politicized increasingly,

00:23:06.580 ideological majors,

00:23:08.280 are we going to see

00:23:09.020 some new competing form

00:23:11.780 of education crop up?

00:23:13.060 Or are we consigned

00:23:14.460 to just this

00:23:15.320 left-wing malaise

00:23:17.220 that's going to get

00:23:17.820 worse and worse

00:23:18.560 and more censorious

00:23:19.800 as time goes on?

00:23:21.520 I think we're already

00:23:22.540 seeing perhaps

00:23:23.220 the early development

00:23:24.460 of this.

00:23:25.860 One,

00:23:26.520 in sort of the formation

00:23:27.460 of this heterodox academy

00:23:28.740 and this whole

00:23:29.300 intellectual dark web

00:23:30.380 and people are seeming

00:23:31.560 to, you know,

00:23:32.340 there's clearly a lot

00:23:32.940 of interest in this

00:23:33.800 and a lot of people

00:23:34.320 are kind of becoming

00:23:34.940 autodidacts,

00:23:35.940 you know,

00:23:36.180 and they're educating

00:23:37.360 themselves outside

00:23:38.360 of the traditional

00:23:39.160 university structures.

00:23:40.480 The other development

00:23:41.920 that I would say

00:23:42.560 indicates that something

00:23:43.580 that you suggest

00:23:44.760 might be happening

00:23:45.480 is we're seeing

00:23:46.780 a lot of millennials,

00:23:47.720 you know,

00:23:47.900 leave college

00:23:48.640 with these very expensive

00:23:49.740 four-year degrees

00:23:50.900 in various,

00:23:53.020 you know,

00:23:53.900 very obscure subjects

00:23:55.620 and they're not getting jobs

00:23:56.980 and they're living

00:23:57.380 with their parents.

00:23:58.840 And I think it's eventually

00:23:59.760 going to dawn on people

00:24:01.000 that the education

00:24:02.480 that they're getting

00:24:03.220 in some of these schools

00:24:04.420 are just not marketable

00:24:06.320 in a free society.

00:24:07.900 Perhaps this is one

00:24:08.540 of the reasons

00:24:08.900 why millennials

00:24:09.520 are increasingly attracted

00:24:10.700 towards socialism,

00:24:11.560 because they're not

00:24:12.640 making this connection.

00:24:13.720 They're not making

00:24:14.440 this connection

00:24:14.980 in their head.

00:24:16.120 They feel very aggrieved

00:24:17.220 and resentful

00:24:18.040 that, you know,

00:24:18.920 the four-year degree

00:24:19.840 that they got

00:24:20.480 in performative puppetry

00:24:22.200 or whatever

00:24:22.660 is not translating

00:24:24.200 into a $100,000

00:24:25.240 a year job

00:24:26.140 right out of school.

00:24:27.300 And so rather than say,

00:24:28.860 well, maybe I shouldn't

00:24:29.460 have gotten

00:24:29.800 this useless degree,

00:24:31.640 perhaps I, you know,

00:24:33.080 I'm going to blame society

00:24:34.540 and I'm going to demand,

00:24:35.840 you know,

00:24:36.200 socialism

00:24:36.600 and free education

00:24:37.520 and free this

00:24:38.200 and free that.

00:24:38.760 So I think we're

00:24:39.900 already seeing

00:24:40.580 sort of the understanding

00:24:42.320 that something is off.

00:24:44.060 You know,

00:24:44.340 Peter Thiel

00:24:45.020 has referred to

00:24:45.640 a higher education bubble.

00:24:47.580 I think there is

00:24:48.180 something like that

00:24:49.000 going on

00:24:50.040 and, you know,

00:24:50.500 if it's going to explode

00:24:51.760 or how that's going

00:24:52.780 to develop

00:24:53.340 is, you know,

00:24:54.440 anyone's guess.

00:24:55.320 Well, as a transformative

00:24:56.740 puppetry miner,

00:24:57.840 I have to tell you,

00:24:58.720 the job market

00:24:59.320 was really tough on me

00:25:00.400 when I got out

00:25:01.020 of dear old college.

00:25:02.520 I noticed that you have...

00:25:03.700 You seem to have done

00:25:04.420 well for yourself.

00:25:05.400 Yeah.

00:25:05.720 Well, the key was

00:25:07.100 that I didn't write a book.

00:25:08.240 That was the real...

00:25:09.140 That was the one

00:25:09.780 good idea I had.

00:25:11.100 I noticed you have

00:25:12.240 very strange-looking

00:25:13.300 wallpaper behind you.

00:25:14.320 That's because you're

00:25:14.880 coming to us

00:25:15.400 from the middle of nowhere

00:25:16.840 somewhere

00:25:17.360 on the other side

00:25:19.040 of the earth.

00:25:20.900 I'm at a conference

00:25:22.340 in the nation

00:25:23.560 of Georgia,

00:25:24.640 not the U.S. state,

00:25:26.060 which about 10 years ago,

00:25:28.820 just last month,

00:25:29.640 you'll remember,

00:25:30.640 was invaded

00:25:31.540 and occupied

00:25:32.500 by Russia,

00:25:33.780 20% of its territory.

00:25:36.140 So I come here

00:25:36.920 every year for a conference.

00:25:37.880 I think it's a very...

00:25:38.620 It's a great country,

00:25:39.700 great people,

00:25:40.820 freedom-loving,

00:25:41.800 very pro-American,

00:25:42.740 very westward-looking.

00:25:44.560 And I always try

00:25:45.540 to come to this conference

00:25:46.960 every year

00:25:47.460 to really remind myself

00:25:49.180 what America's role

00:25:51.640 in the world should be.

00:25:52.880 What freedom means.

00:25:54.960 More important now

00:25:56.160 than ever before, perhaps.

00:25:58.100 So, Jamie,

00:25:58.700 I'm going to let you go.

00:25:59.520 I know it's about midnight

00:26:00.540 over there where you are.

00:26:02.140 So go keep it up.

00:26:03.780 If you are a Yaley,

00:26:05.100 know a Yaley,

00:26:05.560 go to jamiefortrustee.com

00:26:06.900 and help out.

00:26:07.780 Try to spur similar campaigns

00:26:09.540 at your college,

00:26:10.320 at your university,

00:26:11.540 because that's the only way

00:26:12.520 we're going to restore

00:26:13.200 some sanity to the campuses.

00:26:15.060 Jamie, thanks so much

00:26:15.760 for being here.

00:26:17.340 Thanks for having me.

00:26:19.480 All right,

00:26:19.960 we've got a lot more

00:26:20.520 to get to.

00:26:21.400 I'm finally leaving

00:26:22.500 enough time

00:26:23.060 to do the mailbag.

00:26:24.020 I always don't leave

00:26:25.060 enough time

00:26:25.520 and then there are

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00:27:04.560 20 years ago

00:27:05.220 when the Dalai Lama

00:27:05.920 did a Rolex ad,

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00:27:09.160 This is the new

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00:27:29.900 in the center,

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00:27:31.840 center right,

00:27:32.380 when they are like

00:27:33.620 considered to the right

00:27:34.680 of Genghis Khan,

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00:27:36.620 that we're in now.

00:27:37.980 Excuse me,

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00:27:39.280 We'll be right back

00:27:39.720 with the mailbag.

00:27:50.560 Jumping right in

00:27:51.340 from Nathan.

00:27:52.840 Hey, Michael,

00:27:53.500 a few weeks ago,

00:27:54.500 you suggested

00:27:55.200 I start reading

00:27:56.080 C.S. Lewis

00:27:57.060 with Mere Christianity

00:27:58.100 and I'm about done

00:27:59.440 with it.

00:27:59.820 Incredible read so far.

00:28:00.980 There is one part

00:28:02.080 I wanted to ask

00:28:02.920 your opinion on.

00:28:03.900 In his section

00:28:04.660 on pride,

00:28:05.780 he talks about

00:28:06.480 looking down on people,

00:28:07.880 making it impossible

00:28:08.900 to look up toward God.

00:28:10.880 Does God really expect

00:28:11.980 us to look down

00:28:12.780 on no one?

00:28:13.740 Is it really conceitful

00:28:15.100 to think I am better

00:28:16.540 than a person

00:28:17.480 who skins 30 people alive

00:28:19.000 and then sleeps soundly?

00:28:20.440 Or that I'm better

00:28:21.420 than the person

00:28:22.280 I was in the past?

00:28:23.400 It seems to me

00:28:24.320 that if we can't

00:28:25.000 think ourselves

00:28:25.760 superior to at least

00:28:27.000 some others

00:28:27.820 without the sin of pride,

00:28:29.560 the concept of trying

00:28:30.700 to be a good person

00:28:31.960 loses meaning.

00:28:33.560 I see why this is confusing.

00:28:35.660 I have a solution.

00:28:37.720 The issue here

00:28:39.660 is not that you should

00:28:41.560 think less of yourself.

00:28:42.820 It's that you should

00:28:43.420 think of yourself less.

00:28:45.060 And that will solve

00:28:45.740 the problem.

00:28:46.920 If you're sitting there

00:28:47.880 thinking,

00:28:48.960 well, how should I

00:28:50.000 think about me?

00:28:51.260 And how should I think

00:28:51.980 about my relation

00:28:52.880 to other people

00:28:53.640 and where I am

00:28:54.380 in the pecking order

00:28:55.440 or the hierarchy of people?

00:28:56.760 You're doing it wrong.

00:28:58.140 Pride is the queen

00:28:58.900 of all sins.

00:28:59.740 This is the hardest one

00:29:01.520 to root out

00:29:02.200 because it is

00:29:02.760 the essential sin.

00:29:04.240 It is the original sin.

00:29:06.240 The cause of the original sin

00:29:07.860 is pride.

00:29:09.460 Wanting to elevate yourself.

00:29:10.800 Thinking of yourself.

00:29:11.920 A man wrapped up

00:29:12.620 in himself

00:29:12.980 makes a very small package indeed.

00:29:14.560 It caused the fall

00:29:15.200 of Satan,

00:29:17.000 of Lucifer,

00:29:17.680 from heaven.

00:29:19.080 It's so insidious.

00:29:20.720 It is always waiting there

00:29:21.940 for you.

00:29:22.740 And the more humble

00:29:25.300 you think you've become,

00:29:26.860 the more prideful

00:29:28.280 you'll be in your humility.

00:29:29.360 So the key is

00:29:30.280 to think of yourself less.

00:29:32.080 Think about other people more.

00:29:33.420 Think of yourself less.

00:29:34.960 You will have a better life.

00:29:36.580 We all fall into pride

00:29:37.740 from time to time,

00:29:39.340 but pride will make you miserable.

00:29:42.740 The more you think

00:29:43.500 about yourself,

00:29:44.120 you think it's going

00:29:44.680 to make you happy

00:29:45.280 because you feel really good.

00:29:46.240 You think,

00:29:46.420 oh, you know,

00:29:46.900 I hit a home run today

00:29:48.920 in baseball.

00:29:49.600 That never happened

00:29:50.320 to me, obviously.

00:29:50.940 But, you know,

00:29:51.660 you think,

00:29:52.080 I'm really cool.

00:29:53.040 I'm a real cool guy.

00:29:54.220 The more you do that,

00:29:55.060 the more miserable you'll be.

00:29:56.040 The less you think

00:29:56.560 about yourself,

00:29:57.180 the more joyful you'll be.

00:29:59.260 From Ryan,

00:30:00.640 I'm a Catholic

00:30:01.280 and I feel that

00:30:01.900 pledging allegiance

00:30:02.520 to the flag

00:30:03.100 is idolatrous.

00:30:04.920 As a result,

00:30:05.540 I feel that I shouldn't

00:30:06.380 say the pledge

00:30:07.180 or place my hand

00:30:08.060 over my heart.

00:30:08.740 I do love my country,

00:30:09.700 but my allegiance

00:30:10.380 is only to God.

00:30:11.800 Can you explain

00:30:12.700 why this is permissible?

00:30:14.560 Love the show.

00:30:16.220 Absolutely.

00:30:16.940 The pledge of allegiance

00:30:17.700 is a wonderful thing.

00:30:18.980 Do you have any allegiance

00:30:19.800 to your wife?

00:30:21.240 Do you have any allegiance

00:30:21.860 to your parents

00:30:23.040 or your kids

00:30:23.700 or your family

00:30:24.480 or your community?

00:30:26.080 Do you have any allegiance?

00:30:26.640 Of course.

00:30:27.140 We have loyalty

00:30:28.220 to many different things

00:30:30.080 and not all equally.

00:30:32.280 You know,

00:30:32.420 I have a loyalty

00:30:33.140 to my broom closet.

00:30:35.520 You know,

00:30:35.820 this is my community here

00:30:36.840 that I'm locked up in all day.

00:30:38.340 And, of course,

00:30:38.920 everybody has a loyalty

00:30:40.240 to your family,

00:30:41.300 to your community,

00:30:42.080 to your state,

00:30:43.000 to your country,

00:30:43.680 and ultimately to God.

00:30:45.140 That's perfectly fine.

00:30:46.360 It's only a crazy rationalism

00:30:48.300 that makes us pretend

00:30:49.440 that we can only be loyal

00:30:50.420 to one thing.

00:30:51.540 You know,

00:30:51.780 Christ tells us in Scripture

00:30:53.820 that unless you hate your father

00:30:55.980 and your mother

00:30:56.460 and your family,

00:30:57.260 you can't follow him.

00:30:58.820 But God also tells us

00:31:00.400 that husbands should love their wives.

00:31:02.520 How do you resolve these things?

00:31:04.760 Rationalists want to pick

00:31:06.220 one or the other,

00:31:07.040 but what both are doing

00:31:08.920 is telling us

00:31:09.500 the spiritual truth.

00:31:10.980 We have many loyalties

00:31:12.920 and allegiances,

00:31:13.820 but we have to keep them

00:31:14.600 in the proper order.

00:31:15.720 And our Pledge of Allegiance

00:31:16.820 is a wonderful expression of that

00:31:20.520 because our Pledge of Allegiance

00:31:21.640 keeps it in order.

00:31:22.640 We pledge allegiance

00:31:23.340 to one nation under God,

00:31:25.460 indivisible,

00:31:26.160 with liberty and justice for all.

00:31:27.540 We actually clarified it

00:31:28.640 in 1954

00:31:29.400 to add in under God

00:31:31.240 to make it clear

00:31:31.980 that we're not committing

00:31:33.120 some heresy

00:31:33.740 or making an idol

00:31:35.960 out of our nation,

00:31:36.820 but that we have

00:31:37.520 a natural loyalty

00:31:38.420 to our communities

00:31:40.880 and clans

00:31:41.620 and groupings

00:31:43.320 and ultimately

00:31:44.060 into the nation.

00:31:45.740 And all of that

00:31:46.380 is under God.

00:31:47.600 And America has been guided

00:31:48.740 so clearly by Providence

00:31:50.520 since her very beginning

00:31:51.820 that it's a wonderful thing

00:31:54.020 to pledge allegiance

00:31:54.660 and to know that

00:31:55.380 all of that allegiance

00:31:56.180 is ordered and under

00:31:57.560 and looking up to God.

00:31:58.800 From Nathan.

00:32:00.280 A lot of Nathans

00:32:00.960 coming in today.

00:32:02.440 Hey Michael,

00:32:02.840 a question about free will.

00:32:04.080 How do you square

00:32:04.660 the concepts of an omniscient God

00:32:06.340 and me having free choice?

00:32:08.860 Both are fundamental

00:32:09.600 to our religion,

00:32:11.140 but I don't see how

00:32:11.960 I can have real choice

00:32:12.960 unless God does not know

00:32:14.200 what I'm going to do next.

00:32:16.120 For example,

00:32:16.740 Judas Iscariot

00:32:17.460 needed to betray Christ

00:32:18.440 in order for the crucifixion

00:32:19.520 to take place.

00:32:20.740 Christ said he knew

00:32:21.660 about it beforehand.

00:32:22.920 So could Judas

00:32:24.040 have chosen to do otherwise?

00:32:25.420 Did God create Judas

00:32:26.660 knowing for certain

00:32:27.720 he would go to hell

00:32:28.380 or Pontius Pilate

00:32:29.480 for that matter?

00:32:30.240 Because then

00:32:31.040 he would know

00:32:31.700 for all of us

00:32:32.620 and my choices

00:32:33.420 can't change anything.

00:32:35.160 Any advice?

00:32:36.120 God bless.

00:32:37.340 Yes.

00:32:38.680 All of heresy

00:32:39.720 comes from

00:32:41.060 impatience with mystery.

00:32:44.060 I think just about

00:32:45.140 all of it

00:32:45.560 comes from that.

00:32:46.280 It comes from

00:32:46.800 not being able

00:32:47.660 to resolve

00:32:48.300 how God can

00:32:49.720 have perfect justice

00:32:50.940 and perfect mercy.

00:32:52.280 How there can be

00:32:53.700 perfect grace

00:32:54.280 and perfect free will.

00:32:55.260 And so what happens

00:32:55.920 is people who

00:32:56.940 want to rationalize

00:32:58.080 their way out of that

00:32:58.840 pick one or the other.

00:33:00.160 But it isn't

00:33:01.220 one or the other.

00:33:01.840 Thomas Aquinas

00:33:03.900 could give you

00:33:04.340 a much better version

00:33:05.280 of this than I could

00:33:06.040 and there isn't

00:33:06.440 enough time to go into it.

00:33:07.760 But I'll give you

00:33:08.480 a little trick

00:33:09.320 or a shortcut on this

00:33:10.320 which is the question

00:33:11.200 of time and space.

00:33:13.280 I never really understood

00:33:14.880 the confusion

00:33:15.480 on free will

00:33:16.920 and the omniscience

00:33:18.520 of God

00:33:18.900 because God is

00:33:19.740 outside of time and space

00:33:20.760 and I'm inside

00:33:21.720 of time and space.

00:33:23.080 So I'm here

00:33:23.980 in time and space

00:33:24.600 and I have my free choice

00:33:26.040 and I'm choosing

00:33:26.540 to do things.

00:33:27.580 But from the perspective

00:33:28.800 outside of time and space

00:33:30.040 you see all those choices

00:33:31.520 as having already happened.

00:33:33.980 Even my language

00:33:34.720 is misleading here

00:33:36.320 because I'm speaking

00:33:37.400 in tenses

00:33:38.640 that have to do with time

00:33:40.380 and we're talking about

00:33:41.060 something outside of time.

00:33:42.280 But those are

00:33:42.920 different perspectives.

00:33:43.740 The perspective

00:33:44.140 of being inside of time and space

00:33:45.600 and the perspective

00:33:46.500 of being outside of it.

00:33:47.900 Those can simultaneously

00:33:48.940 be true.

00:33:49.500 I can live my life freely

00:33:51.260 and have free choice

00:33:52.100 and have free will

00:33:52.800 and someone who is

00:33:53.780 outside of time

00:33:54.560 can see

00:33:55.700 what has happened

00:33:57.080 what is happening

00:33:57.800 and what will happen

00:33:58.800 all at the same time

00:34:01.240 outside of which

00:34:02.340 he is.

00:34:03.900 This came into

00:34:05.980 great confusion

00:34:06.640 during the Protestant Revolution.

00:34:08.200 You know I criticized

00:34:08.820 Martin Luther a little bit

00:34:09.940 on the show

00:34:10.480 on occasion.

00:34:11.460 This time is no different.

00:34:13.340 Luther and Calvin

00:34:14.340 both came down

00:34:15.660 on the side

00:34:16.180 that there is no such thing

00:34:17.300 as free will.

00:34:18.180 They denied free will.

00:34:19.440 Luther in his writings

00:34:21.220 disagreeing with Erasmus

00:34:23.180 and John Calvin

00:34:24.620 in his doctrine

00:34:25.860 of predestination.

00:34:26.700 But human freedom

00:34:29.080 is very very important.

00:34:30.840 It is the central

00:34:32.100 fact

00:34:33.440 that we have

00:34:34.860 here

00:34:35.160 that we are

00:34:35.920 in possession of

00:34:37.260 that leads to our

00:34:39.040 happiness in the world.

00:34:40.040 Free choice

00:34:40.580 is what caused

00:34:41.120 the fall

00:34:41.660 and forget

00:34:42.720 you're talking about

00:34:43.640 how it caused

00:34:44.320 Judas

00:34:44.760 you know

00:34:45.280 God knew that Judas

00:34:46.660 would betray him

00:34:47.660 but go all the way

00:34:48.480 back to the fall.

00:34:49.260 God knew that Adam

00:34:50.000 would sin.

00:34:52.340 God knew that

00:34:52.920 mankind would fall

00:34:53.860 and because of

00:34:54.960 Adam's free will

00:34:55.840 we had the fall

00:34:57.480 and because of the fall

00:34:58.540 we got the incarnation

00:34:59.360 and because of the incarnation

00:35:00.180 we got the crucifixion

00:35:01.880 and we got the resurrection

00:35:02.900 we got the happy fall

00:35:04.000 we got a wonderful joy

00:35:05.660 the greatest story ever told

00:35:06.780 the greatest possible world

00:35:07.980 that's because we have

00:35:09.220 free will

00:35:09.620 and because

00:35:10.360 of the grace of God.

00:35:12.920 You see this in the incarnation

00:35:14.200 when the angel comes down

00:35:15.760 says to Mary

00:35:17.160 Hail Mary

00:35:17.780 full of grace

00:35:18.600 you will conceive a child

00:35:21.220 even though you

00:35:21.900 haven't known a man

00:35:22.940 you will conceive a child

00:35:24.000 and you are blessed

00:35:26.080 and

00:35:26.960 that was the grace

00:35:29.940 God comes down the mountain

00:35:31.060 you see all of this grace

00:35:32.100 but then Mary consents to it

00:35:33.620 she says

00:35:34.240 I am the Lord's servant

00:35:35.440 let it be done

00:35:37.220 according to your word

00:35:38.040 all of heaven

00:35:39.760 is holding its breath

00:35:40.520 God in his omniscience

00:35:42.200 knew what she was going to say

00:35:43.320 but she still has

00:35:44.400 that opportunity

00:35:45.060 to ascent

00:35:45.680 to turn toward God

00:35:46.760 or turn away from God

00:35:47.580 and we can do that

00:35:48.320 all of the time

00:35:49.120 and

00:35:50.020 just because someone

00:35:51.280 outside of the perspective

00:35:52.380 of time

00:35:53.800 knows what you're going to do

00:35:54.680 doesn't mean that you

00:35:55.380 aren't really doing it

00:35:56.620 from Bob

00:35:57.900 Hi Michael

00:35:59.040 I'm an atheist

00:35:59.700 and support abortion

00:36:00.700 within the first trimester

00:36:01.880 or beyond it

00:36:03.120 given the rise

00:36:03.820 of specific circumstances

00:36:05.020 case in point

00:36:06.580 personal friend

00:36:07.260 decided on an abortion

00:36:08.420 when she learned

00:36:09.280 that a medication

00:36:09.880 she was temporarily

00:36:10.720 taking

00:36:11.660 caused birth deformities

00:36:13.360 she was married

00:36:14.360 at the time

00:36:14.820 and later conceived

00:36:15.480 and gave birth

00:36:16.020 to healthy

00:36:16.780 properly developed

00:36:18.220 babies

00:36:18.860 would you

00:36:20.220 have preferred

00:36:21.460 to see her

00:36:22.040 forced

00:36:22.560 to carry

00:36:23.220 to term

00:36:23.740 a malformed child

00:36:24.760 well I would prefer

00:36:26.420 if she didn't kill

00:36:27.040 the child

00:36:27.500 yeah

00:36:27.760 because nobody's perfect

00:36:29.560 are you perfect

00:36:30.320 are you

00:36:31.440 were you properly formed

00:36:32.700 given your question

00:36:33.940 I wonder

00:36:35.040 if you were properly formed

00:36:36.300 what do you mean perfect

00:36:38.120 what baby is perfect

00:36:39.260 should we now

00:36:40.600 so you're saying

00:36:41.560 the baby had a deformity

00:36:42.860 let's say it

00:36:43.700 was missing a finger

00:36:44.820 or something

00:36:45.500 should we

00:36:46.540 should we kill babies

00:36:47.680 that don't have fingers

00:36:48.760 should we kill adults

00:36:50.400 who are missing a finger

00:36:51.480 what if the baby

00:36:53.100 has down syndrome

00:36:54.220 should we kill people

00:36:55.420 with down syndrome

00:36:56.220 plenty of villains

00:36:57.900 throughout history

00:36:58.520 have killed

00:36:59.140 mentally retarded people

00:37:01.060 people with mental

00:37:02.340 deficiencies

00:37:03.820 is that what you suggest

00:37:05.220 we do

00:37:05.480 what about physical ones

00:37:06.320 I'm not a great athlete

00:37:07.580 should I be wiped out

00:37:10.100 maybe my mother

00:37:10.640 could have tried again

00:37:11.320 the doctor could have

00:37:12.380 looked in and said

00:37:13.100 oh you know

00:37:13.660 he's okay

00:37:14.280 he's got really poofy hair

00:37:15.440 he should have nice

00:37:16.220 oily swarthy skin

00:37:17.280 but he's not going to be

00:37:18.340 much of an athlete

00:37:19.080 he's going to be

00:37:19.560 pretty slow

00:37:20.200 and you know

00:37:20.660 he'll probably strike out

00:37:21.580 most times in baseball

00:37:22.400 just say okay

00:37:23.300 get rid of him

00:37:24.800 we'll try again

00:37:25.360 nobody suggests that

00:37:27.380 nobody thinks we should

00:37:28.180 do that

00:37:28.560 you've got to follow

00:37:29.560 the logic of these

00:37:30.480 to their logical conclusion

00:37:32.040 if we were perfect

00:37:33.740 if we were all perfect

00:37:35.120 then maybe there would be

00:37:35.940 something to your argument

00:37:36.780 but then you wouldn't

00:37:37.560 have an argument at all

00:37:38.440 and then

00:37:38.840 we live in a fallen world

00:37:41.140 and

00:37:42.000 getting back to that

00:37:44.060 first question

00:37:44.600 we talked about

00:37:45.300 perhaps we should

00:37:46.900 stop thinking so much

00:37:49.120 of ourselves

00:37:49.640 and start

00:37:50.240 looking at our own

00:37:51.220 deficiencies

00:37:51.760 and therefore

00:37:52.760 having a little more

00:37:54.140 grace for other people

00:37:55.940 from

00:37:57.240 where

00:37:59.100 from Benjamin

00:37:59.900 from Benjamin

00:38:00.840 hey Michael

00:38:01.440 I am in week three

00:38:03.260 of my first semester

00:38:04.340 at a very left wing

00:38:05.400 college here in California

00:38:06.500 I'm going to begin

00:38:07.680 to bring my

00:38:08.280 leftist tears

00:38:08.920 tumbler to school

00:38:10.000 so I can sip on

00:38:10.940 covfefe

00:38:11.360 to keep me awake

00:38:12.580 during my 8am class

00:38:14.040 if that's so good

00:38:15.560 I love it

00:38:16.100 if a classmate

00:38:17.100 presumably a lefty

00:38:18.140 asks me about my tumbler

00:38:19.400 how would you respond

00:38:21.080 so I can keep

00:38:21.780 a potential friendship

00:38:22.600 while explaining

00:38:23.740 the wonders of this tumbler

00:38:24.820 thanks Benjamin

00:38:25.540 this is a win-win

00:38:27.300 you've put yourself

00:38:28.120 in a win-win scenario

00:38:29.160 so you're sitting there

00:38:30.580 in class

00:38:31.060 take a little

00:38:31.700 hmm

00:38:33.180 take a little Dalai Lama sip

00:38:35.180 and your classmate

00:38:36.680 comes up to you

00:38:37.160 and says

00:38:37.380 what's that

00:38:37.900 your answer has to be

00:38:39.400 this is a leftist tears tumbler

00:38:40.600 and if the person

00:38:42.140 has a sense of humor

00:38:43.000 left or right

00:38:43.900 they will laugh

00:38:44.700 and say

00:38:45.700 ha ha ha

00:38:46.160 that's pretty funny

00:38:46.700 if they don't have

00:38:47.580 a sense of humor

00:38:48.140 you probably don't want

00:38:48.900 to be friends with them anyway

00:38:49.720 and you'll get a free refill

00:38:50.780 of your leftist tears

00:38:51.620 this is the perfect scenario

00:38:53.300 to be in

00:38:54.040 if only I could go back

00:38:56.500 to college

00:38:56.920 what a great time that was

00:38:57.900 we still have a little bit

00:38:58.780 of time

00:38:59.000 we can go through

00:38:59.460 a few more

00:38:59.880 from Veronica

00:39:01.140 hey Mikey Poo

00:39:02.480 hey Veronica

00:39:03.240 hey Ron Ron

00:39:03.940 how you doing

00:39:04.480 I would like

00:39:05.920 the inside scoop

00:39:06.760 on how to do

00:39:08.000 New York City

00:39:08.960 I want to see

00:39:09.920 cool things

00:39:10.580 but avoid crowds

00:39:11.780 and tourists

00:39:12.520 and I would like

00:39:13.800 to not go broke

00:39:14.740 sorry

00:39:15.940 go to Chicago

00:39:17.700 what do you want me to tell you

00:39:18.560 give me the ultimate guide

00:39:20.940 to the Big Apple

00:39:22.140 if you're really from there

00:39:23.320 since there's an epidemic

00:39:24.700 of people lying

00:39:25.640 about their origins

00:39:26.560 these days

00:39:27.260 I was actually born in Kenya

00:39:29.180 so I'll have to tell you about that

00:39:31.100 thanks doll

00:39:31.880 yeah you bet

00:39:32.540 thanks Veronica

00:39:33.220 so

00:39:34.200 there's no way

00:39:36.100 to do New York

00:39:36.740 without going broke

00:39:37.680 it's an expensive place

00:39:38.860 and there's a lot

00:39:39.300 of fun stuff to do

00:39:40.060 so just do it

00:39:40.960 one thing you can do

00:39:42.840 and you also can't have all

00:39:44.640 you want to avoid the crowds

00:39:46.000 you don't want to go broke

00:39:47.300 you want

00:39:47.600 you can't do all those together

00:39:49.340 the cheapest thing you can do

00:39:51.060 that's pretty cool

00:39:51.800 is very early in the morning

00:39:53.360 get on the Staten Island Ferry

00:39:54.620 and you will get a free view

00:39:56.000 of the Statue of Liberty

00:39:57.120 it is zero dollars to get on

00:39:59.420 there will be a crowd

00:40:00.580 but it's pretty cool

00:40:01.380 I used to do it

00:40:02.260 back in my harder partying days

00:40:04.720 I would

00:40:05.640 after a nice long night

00:40:07.100 of going out on the town

00:40:08.340 having a couple adult beverages

00:40:09.560 some friends and I

00:40:10.700 would get on the Staten Island Ferry

00:40:11.960 right at sunrise

00:40:12.720 and you get to see the sunrise

00:40:13.860 you get to see

00:40:14.480 the Statue of Liberty

00:40:15.920 you get to go eat a sandwich

00:40:17.160 in Staten Island

00:40:17.820 and then immediately get back

00:40:19.220 on the Staten Island Ferry

00:40:20.580 you know

00:40:20.860 go back

00:40:21.500 and so that's a fun thing to do

00:40:23.540 it's always bad

00:40:26.020 to ask a New Yorker

00:40:27.080 what to do in New York

00:40:28.180 because I've lived in New York

00:40:30.160 for most of my life

00:40:31.320 in the city

00:40:32.820 outside the city

00:40:33.680 around

00:40:34.200 you know

00:40:34.600 nearby

00:40:34.900 I've never been to

00:40:36.340 the Empire State Building

00:40:37.080 I have never

00:40:39.100 I have not been in the new

00:40:40.080 World Trade Center

00:40:40.960 building

00:40:41.900 even though I lived

00:40:42.600 a block away from it

00:40:43.660 I had never been inside

00:40:45.400 the old World Trade Center

00:40:46.680 the Twin Towers

00:40:47.380 I've never

00:40:48.720 been to

00:40:49.820 the Statue of Liberty Island

00:40:51.280 never gone there

00:40:52.060 never done a

00:40:52.660 carriage ride

00:40:53.860 and you know

00:40:54.540 all the things

00:40:55.020 that the tourists want to do

00:40:55.960 none of us ever

00:40:56.920 ever do there

00:40:57.860 so my recommendation

00:40:59.220 I'm just going to

00:40:59.900 I'm going to give you

00:41:00.500 what I do when I go to New York

00:41:01.700 and take it for what it's worth

00:41:03.620 I always

00:41:04.560 I go to the great cigar bars

00:41:05.960 Cigar Inn on 53rd and 2nd

00:41:07.900 Carnegie Club

00:41:09.120 it's a little pricier

00:41:10.120 but they have a great

00:41:10.720 Sinatra Saturday

00:41:11.460 I'll go to Keene's Steakhouse

00:41:13.840 it's the greatest steakhouse

00:41:14.780 in the world

00:41:15.280 then

00:41:16.160 if you want a bagel

00:41:17.380 early in the morning

00:41:17.960 go down to Leo's

00:41:18.800 downtown

00:41:19.140 it's by the World Trade Center

00:41:20.500 and

00:41:21.960 there's a great boozy brunch

00:41:23.820 at Harry's Steakhouse

00:41:24.600 down there

00:41:25.080 and the finest bar

00:41:26.480 in all of New York

00:41:27.540 the most degenerate

00:41:29.160 disgusting

00:41:29.940 despicable

00:41:30.740 den of debauchery

00:41:32.280 is the Iron Horse

00:41:33.700 on Fulton

00:41:34.480 what is it

00:41:35.240 Fulton and Cliff

00:41:35.840 I think

00:41:36.280 they used to light the bar

00:41:37.680 on fire a couple times a night

00:41:39.020 I think now they've stopped

00:41:39.900 doing that

00:41:40.400 but you know

00:41:41.220 they have like a pool table

00:41:42.560 and mean looking biker dudes

00:41:44.180 and it's just terrific

00:41:45.980 it's a great time

00:41:46.840 it's great to walk in there

00:41:47.760 in your little like

00:41:48.400 polo shirt

00:41:49.400 Oxford

00:41:49.940 you know

00:41:50.400 little loafers

00:41:51.080 hey fellas

00:41:51.560 how you doing

00:41:51.940 great bar

00:41:52.900 do that

00:41:54.320 let me know

00:41:54.660 how you enjoyed it

00:41:55.660 from Austin

00:41:56.580 dear Archangel Michael

00:41:58.300 lookalike

00:41:58.980 not after a night

00:41:59.960 at the Iron Horse

00:42:00.520 let me tell you that

00:42:01.140 defender of conservatism

00:42:02.740 protector of the Ben Shapiro

00:42:03.820 show broom closet

00:42:04.540 I require your expertise

00:42:06.240 in relationships

00:42:07.040 bring it on

00:42:07.680 I've been single for a while

00:42:09.160 about two years

00:42:09.820 and have found myself

00:42:10.680 falling for two women

00:42:11.820 one is currently

00:42:13.300 in the Navy Academy

00:42:14.020 and the other is

00:42:15.340 pursuing education

00:42:16.160 to become a psychiatrist

00:42:17.200 I hold both as close friends

00:42:19.760 and care for both of them equally

00:42:21.320 I am at the point

00:42:22.880 where I want to date

00:42:23.680 for marriage

00:42:24.220 and not just for a hookup

00:42:25.700 I live in Pennsylvania

00:42:27.140 so I won't be able to see

00:42:28.200 the girl in the Navy Academy much

00:42:29.600 but the psychiatrist

00:42:31.440 to be

00:42:32.100 has a few

00:42:32.920 extracurricular activities

00:42:34.380 that I'm not entirely

00:42:35.320 kosher with

00:42:36.140 pot

00:42:36.980 the old Haitian oregano

00:42:38.620 but she lives

00:42:40.260 just a short drive away

00:42:41.680 thanks for all your help

00:42:43.060 you are truly deserving

00:42:44.520 of the title

00:42:45.380 Casanova of the Daily Wire

00:42:47.340 much love

00:42:48.080 Austin

00:42:48.580 brrrr

00:42:49.220 so

00:42:50.020 this is

00:42:51.620 I'll give you my advice

00:42:54.240 I'm trying to calibrate

00:42:56.740 how much I can say

00:42:57.720 you always want to be honest

00:42:59.380 you don't want to be a jerk

00:43:01.080 about dating girls

00:43:02.360 but if you're not sure

00:43:03.840 who you want to date

00:43:05.860 then you should spend

00:43:07.240 a little time

00:43:07.840 with both girls

00:43:08.580 you know

00:43:09.020 being honest

00:43:10.620 I'll go to dinner

00:43:11.380 get the

00:43:11.860 you know

00:43:12.120 kind of

00:43:12.520 I don't know your age

00:43:14.460 if you're

00:43:14.960 18 or something

00:43:16.420 you don't have to make

00:43:17.180 a decision right away

00:43:18.060 I don't know enough

00:43:20.040 about the girls

00:43:20.720 I mean all I know

00:43:21.440 is one girl's

00:43:22.060 going to the Naval Academy

00:43:23.160 that's great

00:43:23.820 good

00:43:24.160 good honor

00:43:24.700 and the other girl's

00:43:25.620 a psychiatrist

00:43:26.160 I've always had a preference

00:43:27.280 for psychiatrists

00:43:28.200 the pot thing

00:43:29.900 I don't know

00:43:30.300 if she's in college

00:43:31.240 that could pass by

00:43:32.320 you know

00:43:32.840 I mean who knows

00:43:35.160 in the culture now

00:43:36.020 marijuana is becoming

00:43:37.140 a sacrament

00:43:37.700 so perhaps

00:43:38.460 perhaps

00:43:39.220 we'll all end up

00:43:40.400 puffing on the old

00:43:41.140 Haitian oregano

00:43:41.700 I prefer covfefe

00:43:42.820 but

00:43:43.620 it's about the girls

00:43:45.380 you know

00:43:45.700 I gave this advice

00:43:46.540 to some other guy

00:43:47.260 you got to tell me

00:43:48.580 about the person

00:43:49.160 don't date someone

00:43:50.420 or marry someone

00:43:51.060 because of their job

00:43:52.020 or how much money

00:43:53.180 they're going to make

00:43:53.820 or if they're going to

00:43:54.980 travel

00:43:55.420 or whatever

00:43:56.140 you know

00:43:56.700 because they like

00:43:57.580 to smoke pot

00:43:58.120 when they're 18

00:43:58.700 it's about the person

00:44:00.920 and that's ineffable

00:44:01.840 I can't tell you

00:44:02.560 about that

00:44:03.020 the way that you

00:44:03.760 can find that out

00:44:04.680 though

00:44:04.900 is by

00:44:06.160 talking to the

00:44:08.020 girls honestly

00:44:09.120 you know

00:44:09.620 being interested

00:44:10.820 in what they have to do

00:44:11.560 trying to learn

00:44:12.540 about them

00:44:13.020 trying to get a sense

00:44:14.100 of them

00:44:14.400 and seeing what clicks

00:44:15.480 because there is

00:44:16.200 a little chemistry

00:44:17.400 this isn't so clinical

00:44:18.720 I know now we're

00:44:19.340 in the swipe culture

00:44:20.220 but Cole Porter

00:44:21.220 didn't sing

00:44:21.900 let's do it

00:44:23.100 let's be in a

00:44:24.880 an exclusive relationship

00:44:26.540 after we date

00:44:27.340 for a little while

00:44:28.080 because we swiped

00:44:28.800 right on Tinder

00:44:29.520 that's not what he said

00:44:31.020 let's do it

00:44:31.840 let's fall in love

00:44:32.900 so that's really

00:44:34.460 what you've got to

00:44:35.100 focus on a little bit

00:44:36.320 just don't be a jerk

00:44:37.720 about it

00:44:38.080 don't

00:44:38.660 you know

00:44:39.040 we've all been jerks

00:44:40.440 when it comes to girls

00:44:41.320 but try not to be

00:44:42.380 and depending on your age

00:44:44.000 you might be a little

00:44:44.440 old for that anyway

00:44:45.120 so

00:44:45.820 you know

00:44:47.960 find out what

00:44:48.860 that person is

00:44:50.020 and don't

00:44:51.600 don't go in saying

00:44:52.500 I want to date

00:44:53.540 because I need a girlfriend

00:44:54.720 and I want to get married

00:44:55.780 and me me me me me

00:44:56.720 it's about the other person

00:44:58.120 go in

00:44:59.320 enjoy it

00:45:00.100 keep it fun

00:45:00.780 if dating isn't fun

00:45:02.040 then

00:45:02.440 I got nothing for you

00:45:04.500 you know

00:45:04.940 it's the great

00:45:05.720 consolation of life

00:45:06.740 do we have time

00:45:07.500 for one more

00:45:07.980 one more

00:45:08.760 okay

00:45:09.040 is that enough

00:45:09.600 all right

00:45:10.000 from Matthew

00:45:10.880 Michael

00:45:11.900 I really enjoy the show

00:45:12.980 and it has become

00:45:13.720 my favorite

00:45:14.620 daily wire podcast

00:45:16.040 yeah

00:45:16.740 do you hear that Ben

00:45:17.740 no

00:45:18.100 Ben doesn't listen

00:45:18.920 to this show

00:45:19.360 whenever I tell people

00:45:20.540 about the daily wire

00:45:21.320 I always tell them

00:45:22.000 I came for Ben

00:45:22.700 stayed for Michael

00:45:23.520 thank you very much

00:45:24.440 anyway

00:45:25.040 my question refers

00:45:26.000 to the fall

00:45:26.460 of Adam and Eve

00:45:27.300 more specifically

00:45:28.560 is there any

00:45:29.200 extra biblical

00:45:30.020 anthropological

00:45:30.880 or historical evidence

00:45:32.000 to support the claim

00:45:33.180 of the fall

00:45:33.680 that there were once

00:45:34.460 two first people

00:45:35.540 who were in a perfect

00:45:36.820 state of grace

00:45:37.740 and would never have died

00:45:39.060 had they not sinned

00:45:40.360 and disobeyed God

00:45:41.220 if there is no evidence

00:45:42.120 for this

00:45:42.540 how would we argue

00:45:43.740 for it

00:45:44.360 to a secular person

00:45:45.780 especially since

00:45:47.100 their argument

00:45:47.760 from

00:45:48.400 a Darwinian perspective

00:45:49.740 seems more tenable

00:45:51.220 though it does not

00:45:52.460 explain the desire

00:45:53.360 for meaning

00:45:53.860 and the fact

00:45:54.580 we have a consciousness

00:45:55.680 seems like a conundrum

00:45:57.540 I look forward to

00:45:58.080 hearing your answer

00:45:58.580 and keep up the good work

00:45:59.320 respectfully Matt

00:46:00.080 so we cannot know

00:46:02.620 about the garden

00:46:03.960 we can't know

00:46:05.420 about pre-fall

00:46:06.400 everything

00:46:07.140 that we have

00:46:08.360 in front of us

00:46:09.460 is a product

00:46:10.460 of the fall

00:46:11.060 our minds

00:46:11.920 are a product

00:46:12.420 of the fall

00:46:13.040 you know

00:46:13.860 we are in a fallen world

00:46:17.580 we are not

00:46:18.640 we're not in a fallen world

00:46:20.140 that has a perfect place

00:46:21.500 somewhere in the middle

00:46:22.300 of Iraq

00:46:22.740 that's not how it works

00:46:24.280 we were kicked out

00:46:25.080 of the garden

00:46:25.500 there is an angel

00:46:26.240 with a flaming sword

00:46:27.300 so I have a few thoughts

00:46:29.620 on all of this

00:46:30.260 broadly speaking

00:46:32.040 if you're looking

00:46:32.800 to the bible

00:46:33.580 for science

00:46:35.000 or

00:46:35.620 you know

00:46:37.480 scientific history

00:46:39.220 or scientific fact

00:46:40.080 you're looking

00:46:40.700 in the wrong place

00:46:41.540 I think it was

00:46:42.140 Cardinal

00:46:42.680 I'm going to get it wrong

00:46:45.680 Cardinal Baronius

00:46:47.040 was it

00:46:47.380 maybe

00:46:47.640 who knows

00:46:48.000 I'll look it up

00:46:48.460 who said

00:46:49.220 the bible teaches us

00:46:51.120 how to go to heaven

00:46:51.760 not how the heavens go

00:46:53.020 so just keep that in mind

00:46:55.260 nevertheless

00:46:56.520 because the bible

00:46:57.980 contains myth

00:46:58.840 and history

00:46:59.400 and poetry

00:47:00.040 and history

00:47:01.600 and all of these things

00:47:02.800 and journalism

00:47:04.200 and theology

00:47:06.520 because it contains

00:47:07.380 all of these genres

00:47:08.200 I know

00:47:09.800 that the biblical description

00:47:11.200 of the creation

00:47:11.860 is the most precise

00:47:13.180 and truthful way

00:47:14.120 that I can understand

00:47:15.380 the creation

00:47:16.060 of being

00:47:17.200 of the universe

00:47:18.180 that is the most precise way

00:47:19.860 if there were a more precise way

00:47:21.000 if there were a better way

00:47:21.960 to do it

00:47:22.300 God would have told us

00:47:23.020 in that way

00:47:23.480 so I know that for a fact

00:47:25.240 now I'm going to violate

00:47:26.740 what I just said

00:47:27.500 which is that

00:47:28.220 I'll analyze it

00:47:29.060 from an anthropological

00:47:30.360 or historical

00:47:31.180 or scientific perspective

00:47:32.460 and C.S. Lewis

00:47:33.500 did this in some book

00:47:34.560 I forget where

00:47:35.240 maybe it was Chesterton

00:47:36.660 that

00:47:37.380 the fact of the first person

00:47:40.800 is a truism

00:47:42.160 certainly there was

00:47:43.480 a first man

00:47:44.220 there has to have been

00:47:45.980 because

00:47:46.920 even assuming

00:47:48.480 you refer to it

00:47:49.540 as the Darwinian perspective

00:47:50.720 and people

00:47:51.260 abuse that term

00:47:52.620 endlessly

00:47:53.420 but even assuming

00:47:54.780 that there was

00:47:55.300 some sort of evolutionary process

00:47:56.880 some process

00:47:57.440 of natural selection

00:47:58.720 at a certain point

00:48:00.220 a distinction was made

00:48:01.280 between a beast

00:48:02.120 who is all instinct

00:48:03.760 and a human being

00:48:05.060 which has intellect

00:48:05.940 and will

00:48:06.380 at a certain point

00:48:08.060 a distinction was made

00:48:09.160 and a way that we can imagine

00:48:10.960 this is God

00:48:11.660 reaching down

00:48:12.480 and touching Adam

00:48:13.340 God touching the man

00:48:14.560 and him

00:48:16.100 having a consciousness

00:48:17.540 him having intellect

00:48:18.560 and will

00:48:18.960 and being more than

00:48:19.960 a grunting brute

00:48:20.740 who is driven only by instinct

00:48:22.220 by definition

00:48:24.180 that's the first man

00:48:25.100 so certainly that is the case

00:48:26.600 and

00:48:27.060 so even if you want to follow

00:48:30.040 the evolutionary perspective

00:48:32.020 or one of the many

00:48:33.200 evolutionary perspectives

00:48:34.240 you still have to

00:48:35.460 butt up against that fact

00:48:36.420 of the first man

00:48:37.240 and

00:48:38.040 but your understanding of it

00:48:40.580 will be much better

00:48:41.280 if you focus on that consciousness

00:48:42.560 and what it means

00:48:43.580 to be a man

00:48:45.040 and what the fall means

00:48:46.660 and what it means for us

00:48:47.760 today

00:48:48.420 as we live

00:48:49.420 as conscious beings

00:48:50.120 with intellect

00:48:50.580 and will

00:48:51.400 I hope

00:48:52.360 I was able to sum up

00:48:54.080 the creation of mankind

00:48:54.920 in 20 seconds

00:48:56.080 do you think I succeeded?

00:48:57.440 I don't think I did

00:48:57.980 but hopefully that helps

00:48:59.140 okay that's our show

00:49:00.300 you've got to binge

00:49:01.420 another kingdom

00:49:01.980 season 1

00:49:03.400 because we are

00:49:04.120 vigorously recording

00:49:05.660 season 2

00:49:06.280 and it is very cool

00:49:07.680 this is like

00:49:08.700 we took it up a notch

00:49:09.740 for this new season

00:49:10.500 and the script

00:49:12.040 of the new season

00:49:12.600 is terrific

00:49:13.240 and the production quality

00:49:14.080 is really good

00:49:14.560 so make sure you binge

00:49:15.840 season 1

00:49:16.500 written by the one

00:49:17.840 and only Andrew Clavin

00:49:18.600 because we're going to have

00:49:19.500 season 2 coming out

00:49:20.220 very soon

00:49:21.180 I will not tell you when though

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The Michael Knowles Show - September 13, 2018

Ep. 217 - George Orwell’s Diversity University

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