The Michael Knowles Show

00:00:00.000 He said, she said, will she, won't she, whodunit, who cares, just confirm Kavanaugh.

00:00:05.540 The latest from the hearings.

00:00:07.520 And a reassurance from Senate Majority Leader Pablo Escobar, Cocaine Mitch himself.

00:00:12.940 Then Merriam-Webster adds a new fake word to the dictionary, that should be a lot of fun.

00:00:17.220 Joseph Nicolosi Jr., Dr. Joseph Nicolosi Jr. stops by to explain the difference between gay conversion therapy and his own work.

00:00:24.480 And Arby's offers to tattoo their corporate logo on your flesh for absolutely nothing.

00:00:30.000 All that and more. I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:40.060 Oh, so much to get to today. So, so much.

00:00:43.880 I hope this is the final Cocaine Mitch, you're our only hope moment, and this chaos ends with Kavanaugh.

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00:02:13.240 Guess what's in the news today?

00:02:15.340 Do you think it's that the economy hit an all-time high now?

00:02:18.560 Do you think it's that unemployment has hit an all-time low?

00:02:21.880 I think a low since, maybe not an all-time low, but certainly since 1969.

00:02:25.400 Is it that? No.

00:02:26.660 Here's what's in the news.

00:02:27.520 This is Brett Kavanaugh, who allegedly groped a girl when he was 17 or something, and she can't really remember when or how,

00:02:35.000 and she just started talking about it five seconds ago, and it might have not even been the same guy.

00:02:43.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:02:45.040 Here are the Democratic senators just utterly making a farce out of this whole process.

00:02:50.300 Take it away, Senator Gillibrand.

00:02:52.580 ...under oath, and so I believe her, I stand with her, and I don't think she...

00:02:56.960 Do you think she shows up on Monday? Do you hope that she testifies?

00:02:58.800 I don't think she should be bullied into this scenario, where it's a he said, she said,

00:03:03.900 where many members of the committee have already made up their minds.

00:03:06.400 Without the benefit of an FBI investigation, where it's nonpartisan and objective,

00:03:11.960 and without the benefit of corroborating witnesses being able to testify, it's a sham hearing.

00:03:16.440 And I don't think she should participate in it.

00:03:19.380 Did you catch that?

00:03:21.020 Did you catch that 180-degree spin?

00:03:24.140 I'm nauseated just by watching it.

00:03:27.520 Can we play that again? Listen to that again.

00:03:30.580 ...under oath, and so I believe her, I stand with her, and I don't think she...

00:03:34.580 Do you hope she shows up on Monday? Do you hope that she testifies?

00:03:36.580 I don't think she should be bullied into this scenario, where it's a he said, she said,

00:03:41.720 where many members of the committee have already made up their minds.

00:03:44.200 Without the benefit of an FBI investigation, where it's nonpartisan and objective,

00:03:49.560 and without the benefit of corroborating witnesses being able to testify, it's a sham hearing.

00:03:54.180 And I don't think she should participate in it.

00:03:57.320 In case you didn't hear it, even that second time, she said,

00:04:00.380 I believe her.

00:04:01.980 I believe the accuser.

00:04:03.160 I stand with the accuser.

00:04:04.760 And then she immediately says that this is a sham hearing,

00:04:09.180 because there are no corroborating witnesses,

00:04:11.460 and many members have already made up their minds.

00:04:14.720 Did you...

00:04:15.560 You made up your mind.

00:04:17.380 You just did that.

00:04:18.120 You did that exact thing.

00:04:20.180 And Gillibrand, she's a snake in the Senate,

00:04:23.160 because everyone thinks she's laying low,

00:04:25.240 and you always think of Chuck Schumer when you think of senators from New York.

00:04:28.460 You don't think of her.

00:04:29.320 But she's worked her way up into that Senate seat.

00:04:31.820 I mean, she is a serpentine senator.

00:04:36.040 And you see that here.

00:04:37.440 I mean, she is able to say two utterly contradictory things with a perfectly straight face,

00:04:41.520 and obviously, Jim Acosta can't tell the difference at all.

00:04:44.800 I mean, he's just...

00:04:45.600 Actually, all he's thinking about is the mousse that he put in his hair this morning.

00:04:48.280 He's like, well, yeah, yeah, Jim, I think that looks pretty good.

00:04:51.160 I can't say, is it too voluminous?

00:04:53.100 I don't know, Jim.

00:04:54.140 And then she spouts all of her nonsense.

00:04:56.200 So she exposes that to be the sham.

00:04:59.360 The Democrats are exposing this to be a sham.

00:05:01.080 They're saying it with their own words.

00:05:03.580 Donald Trump comes in.

00:05:04.640 President Trump comes in.

00:05:05.660 He finally is weighing in.

00:05:06.840 He had been so good.

00:05:07.760 He had been saying, oh, I hope she testifies.

00:05:09.860 Oh, we'll see what she has to say.

00:05:11.200 Okay, okay.

00:05:11.940 Now he's gone after her.

00:05:13.160 All bets are off.

00:05:14.800 He tweets out, quote,

00:05:16.280 I have no doubt that if the attack on Dr. Ford was as bad as she says,

00:05:19.740 charges would have been immediately filed with local law enforcement authorities

00:05:23.320 by either her or her loving parents.

00:05:25.460 I ask that she bring those filings forward so that we can learn date, time, and place.

00:05:29.840 Now, is it natural?

00:05:34.120 Is it perfectly logical that, you know, is it necessary that if this attack took place,

00:05:40.840 meaning if drunk teenagers groped each other at a party, you know, without, and we don't

00:05:47.880 really have any more details than that, if that took place, would she have reported that?

00:05:51.680 I'm not convinced of that.

00:05:52.840 I'm not totally sure that she would have.

00:05:54.200 I know people who have been truly sexually harassed in their work, who have been, you

00:05:59.140 know, and they don't come forward because you just kind of want to forget about it and

00:06:02.160 move on.

00:06:02.560 So on that point, that isn't fair.

00:06:05.260 But on the broader point, this is a totally fair tweet.

00:06:08.380 We don't know the date.

00:06:09.340 We don't know the time.

00:06:10.140 We don't know the place.

00:06:10.940 We don't really know the people there.

00:06:12.460 We don't know the circumstances.

00:06:13.840 We don't know the year.

00:06:14.740 We don't know anything about this.

00:06:16.320 It is a totally uncredible allegation.

00:06:18.320 And it's about time that she either puts up or shuts up.

00:06:22.400 Then Trump tweets again.

00:06:24.040 He says, quote, the radical left lawyers want the FBI to get involved now.

00:06:29.040 Why didn't someone call the FBI 36 years ago?

00:06:31.940 Of course, on the specific point, this doesn't make sense.

00:06:35.380 Why would she have called the FBI?

00:06:36.840 This would be a, maybe this would have been a local law enforcement matter.

00:06:40.540 Maybe not even that.

00:06:41.640 Depending on how, how this thing actually went down, it might not have even been that.

00:06:45.360 So, uh, so the FBI wouldn't have been involved.

00:06:47.880 But on the point of the tweet, the tweet is perfectly fair.

00:06:50.940 And the reason is when people are watching this, they're seeing FBI, accuser, assault.

00:06:57.000 And so what President Trump is doing, because he's very good at the media, is just using those,

00:07:01.380 uh, those ingredients.

00:07:03.480 He's just using the terms that are being thrown around and flipping them on their head.

00:07:07.200 Is this perfectly logical?

00:07:08.920 No.

00:07:09.400 Does it make sense as a matter of law or law enforcement?

00:07:12.460 No.

00:07:13.180 But what President Trump is doing now is not making a legal case.

00:07:16.540 He's, he's, he's now joining a media assault on the supporters of Kavanaugh's accuser.

00:07:22.320 And that's perfectly fine.

00:07:23.540 This actually should have happened a while ago.

00:07:25.260 I thought it was a really dangerous game to, to play footsie with all of this and play along

00:07:30.240 and try to be a little too clever by half.

00:07:32.600 It's an absurd allegation.

00:07:34.340 It's not credible.

00:07:35.420 They should have shut this up days ago and they should have voted to get Kavanaugh through.

00:07:39.240 Punto e basta.

00:07:40.240 Nothing more.

00:07:40.780 Get it done.

00:07:43.080 Now, some people on the right are, are up in arms over President Trump's tweets because

00:07:47.880 he's getting involved.

00:07:49.400 I'm not saying the tweets are that helpful, but they're not, they don't hurt.

00:07:52.940 Who cares?

00:07:53.780 Who cares?

00:07:55.020 Whose mind has been changed on this issue by those tweets?

00:07:59.160 Nobody.

00:07:59.880 Not a single person.

00:08:00.840 And I really, really suspect that most Americans don't put any stock into these claims.

00:08:06.460 They might say that they put stock into these allegations because they don't like Donald

00:08:10.020 Trump and they don't like Republicans and they don't like Brett Kavanaugh and they don't

00:08:12.680 like the Constitution and they want to get this guy and railroad him and keep him out

00:08:17.360 of the Supreme Court.

00:08:18.560 So they might say, they might play along, they might be hacks, but their pseudo opinion,

00:08:23.720 their public opinion is not going to be changed because Donald Trump tweets about it.

00:08:27.040 It doesn't matter.

00:08:28.160 People say, oh, but the optics.

00:08:29.580 Oh, but how it looks.

00:08:30.620 Who cares?

00:08:31.300 We are so past that.

00:08:32.700 We are so past how it looks.

00:08:34.180 We elected Donald Trump.

00:08:35.840 That should have put the end to that question of playing by these polite little rules.

00:08:39.740 The American people are not interested in playing by these polite little rules anymore.

00:08:42.920 We're not interested in this meta strategy of politicians saying one thing and then we

00:08:49.040 have to decipher what they really mean because when you say this, it really means that and

00:08:52.740 then he said this to him and that.

00:08:54.520 No, we're in a much more direct political moment and people are being much more direct about

00:09:00.680 their partisan hackery.

00:09:01.820 Kirsten Gillibrand is a great example of this.

00:09:04.640 She comes out, she says, I have made up my mind before any hearings, before any investigation

00:09:10.820 and senators who make up their minds before any investigation are shams and scam artists.

00:09:16.960 She actually said that in the same sentence.

00:09:18.760 We're in a very direct moment of power on power.

00:09:23.860 This is power politics here.

00:09:25.800 And what is at stake?

00:09:27.540 Who cares?

00:09:28.200 What happened 36 years ago?

00:09:29.460 Who cares?

00:09:29.980 Not me.

00:09:30.480 Don't care one little bit.

00:09:31.880 Is Brett Kavanaugh a really nice guy?

00:09:33.560 Yeah, it seems like he is.

00:09:34.640 Also, I don't really care.

00:09:36.100 What I care about is protecting the Constitution, protecting liberty, and having a serious justice

00:09:41.420 who is willing to apply the framework of our country as it is written and by the definitions

00:09:49.520 and by the meanings that it had when it was adopted.

00:09:52.460 That's what I want.

00:09:53.520 That's what I care about.

00:09:54.500 No, it does not matter.

00:09:56.280 The scintillating, gossipy, tabloid aspect of this truly does not matter.

00:10:00.640 It does not affect my life one little bit.

00:10:02.400 It happened four decades ago.

00:10:04.760 I just don't care.

00:10:06.180 And you shouldn't care either.

00:10:07.480 But Donald Trump tweeted this.

00:10:08.860 Doesn't matter.

00:10:09.440 We are in power politics time right now.

00:10:11.400 Do you support the Constitution?

00:10:12.500 Do you not support the Constitution?

00:10:13.500 Do you support due process and the rights of the accused to face their accuser and statutes

00:10:18.800 of limitations and not just ruining people's lives on apparently baseless allegations?

00:10:25.840 Do you stand with that?

00:10:26.600 The rule of law or partisan hackish anarchy?

00:10:30.240 Those are the two options that you've got.

00:10:32.920 Guess which side the celebrities fall down on.

00:10:34.940 I'll let you see.

00:10:35.960 Dear Professor Ford, we know how difficult it is to stand up to powerful people.

00:10:45.400 We want to thank you for publicly sharing your story of sexual violence.

00:10:49.480 As members of the Senate determine whether Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh should

00:10:55.720 serve as a Supreme Court Justice.

00:11:00.100 This context is critical.

00:11:01.660 The behavior you described was wrong and runs directly counter to upholding the law

00:11:08.280 and promoting justice.

00:11:09.900 He should not be confirmed.

00:11:11.560 He should not be confirmed.

00:11:13.380 He should not be confirmed.

00:11:16.180 We can also imagine how shocking and overwhelming it must have been to have your truths shared

00:11:21.020 on a national stage without your permission.

00:11:24.360 You should be the decision maker about how your story is shared, if ever.

00:11:28.360 We applaud your courage in coming forward for the public good.

00:11:32.700 And we will be with you as you face the inevitable backlash.

00:11:35.940 The inevitable backlash.

00:11:37.640 The inevitable backlash.

00:11:39.540 You are strong.

00:11:40.660 You are strong.

00:11:42.300 And you are not alone.

00:11:43.760 You are a survivor.

00:11:46.080 This is a tired cliché.

00:11:48.260 Tired, tired, tired cliché.

00:11:51.100 We don't know anything about this, about this case, case.

00:11:54.960 So we're going to repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, simple words and slogans.

00:12:01.200 Words, words, words, and, and, slogans, slogans, because we're saying nothing.

00:12:06.340 And this is a parody of the early 2000s PSAs, S, A's, S, A's, A's.

00:12:13.580 This could have been on The Onion.

00:12:14.940 This could have been on ClickHole or something.

00:12:17.600 I'm Julianne Moore, Moore.

00:12:19.240 Julianne, Ann Moore.

00:12:20.920 Okay, great.

00:12:21.740 But you believe her.

00:12:23.000 Okay, Julie.

00:12:23.580 Well, if Julianne Moore believes her.

00:12:25.300 All right, he's out.

00:12:26.500 Get Kavanaugh out of there.

00:12:27.720 Julianne Moore has weighed in.

00:12:29.660 And a bunch of other people that I've never seen before have.

00:12:32.260 But I guess they're celebrities to some people.

00:12:34.340 Who knows?

00:12:35.760 Absurd, right?

00:12:36.460 And they, they've been, they do this all the time.

00:12:38.540 And it always is meaningless.

00:12:39.980 And the American people don't care.

00:12:41.640 They hate this.

00:12:42.580 They hate these things.

00:12:44.020 We don't want to be told by celebrities what we think.

00:12:46.220 We don't want to be told by actresses like Julianne Moore.

00:12:48.820 We rejected this in 2016.

00:12:51.140 And we mock all of these, these ads never do well.

00:12:54.240 And yet the left just keeps making them because they're living in a fantasy past that no longer exists.

00:13:00.060 All of this is why Cocaine Mitch is our only hope.

00:13:03.580 Cocaine Mitch, give me hope, baby.

00:13:05.620 You've watched the fight.

00:13:07.820 You've watched the tactics.

00:13:09.100 But here's what I want to tell you.

00:13:12.200 In the very near future, Judge Kavanaugh will be on the United States Supreme Court.

00:13:21.940 So, my friends, keep the faith.

00:13:24.380 Don't get rattled by all of this.

00:13:26.800 We're going to plow right through it and do our job.

00:13:29.960 I've got one message for all of the Democrats who are trying to stop Brett Kavanaugh from going on the court.

00:13:40.360 Say hello to my little friend.

00:13:44.520 That is what we're getting from Cocaine Mitch.

00:13:46.660 And he's exactly right to do it.

00:13:48.140 He's exactly right.

00:13:48.940 I wish he'd done it a week ago.

00:13:50.160 That is exactly correct.

00:13:52.280 This is absurd.

00:13:53.300 These allegations are childish.

00:13:54.840 They are not credible.

00:13:56.080 We shouldn't give them one second's airtime.

00:13:57.960 We shouldn't have any hearings.

00:13:59.940 We shouldn't have nothing.

00:14:01.720 Nothing.

00:14:03.040 Not at all.

00:14:03.760 Confirm him.

00:14:04.500 Get it done.

00:14:05.500 All that this air can do is suck up a whole news cycle,

00:14:08.820 which should have been about how the economy has never been better,

00:14:11.100 thanks to President Trump.

00:14:12.260 All of the experts told us the economy would crash under Trump.

00:14:14.720 It's never been better.

00:14:15.740 Lowest joblessness.

00:14:16.860 Highest market highs.

00:14:19.060 And it's been sucked up by this stupid Kavanaugh insinuation nonsense.

00:14:22.940 Get rid of it.

00:14:23.480 Cocaine Mitch, give it to me.

00:14:24.380 And, by the way, the reason Cocaine Mitch is right here,

00:14:28.640 is because, as we could probably intuit from those Julianne Moore videos,

00:14:33.160 the American people don't believe this.

00:14:35.000 I really don't believe that the American people think that this woman is legit

00:14:40.160 and that Brett Kavanaugh is a rapist.

00:14:41.800 They might, or like a groper or whatever, when he was a teenager.

00:14:45.120 I don't know.

00:14:46.540 They might say that.

00:14:47.640 They might say that in certain, depending on how a question is asked,

00:14:50.700 depending on how, who knows.

00:14:51.700 But I really just don't think it's the case.

00:14:54.460 And CNN just learned this when they had a panel of people that they were talking to.

00:14:58.800 You know, regular old American civilians.

00:15:01.040 And they said, do you believe that Kavanaugh did it or that Kavanaugh is innocent?

00:15:06.380 A show of hands.

00:15:07.440 How many of you believe Judge Kavanaugh when he says this didn't happen?

00:15:11.660 I believe him.

00:15:12.500 I believe him.

00:15:13.060 I do believe him.

00:15:14.300 I believe him.

00:15:15.380 How can we believe the word of a woman or something that happened 36 years ago

00:15:19.820 when this guy has an impeccable reputation?

00:15:23.160 There wasn't nobody, nobody that has spoken ill will about him.

00:15:26.560 Everyone that speaks about him, this guy's an altar boy.

00:15:29.240 You know, a scout.

00:15:30.520 He's, you know, because one woman made an allegation.

00:15:33.300 Sorry, I don't buy it.

00:15:34.200 But in the grand scheme of things, my goodness, you, there was no intercourse.

00:15:38.380 There was maybe a touch.

00:15:40.400 Can we really, 36 years later, she's still stuck on that?

00:15:44.440 Had it happened?

00:15:45.620 I mean, we're talking about a 15-year-old girl, which I respect.

00:15:49.260 You know, I'm a woman.

00:15:50.420 I respect.

00:15:51.560 And we're talking about a 17-year-old boy in high school with testosterone running high.

00:15:55.960 Tell me what boy hasn't done this in high school.

00:15:58.320 Please, I would like to know.

00:16:00.220 Thank you.

00:16:00.940 Thank you, ladies.

00:16:01.820 Thank you.

00:16:02.300 Five out of five say they believe Kavanaugh.

00:16:04.500 Duh, duh.

00:16:05.520 I mean, come on.

00:16:07.320 Regardless of what happened or what didn't happen or who remembers what or who was there,

00:16:11.480 this is so, it's so beyond the pale.

00:16:14.840 It's so out of left field.

00:16:15.840 It's so out there.

00:16:17.140 This is not to be believed.

00:16:18.660 It is so transparently a political ploy.

00:16:21.160 Get rid of it.

00:16:21.980 Get it done.

00:16:22.680 Please, Cocaine Mitch.

00:16:23.900 I hope you're right.

00:16:24.800 You're our only hope.

00:16:25.940 We've got to turn now because we've heard so much in 2016 and in recent years

00:16:30.920 about gay conversion therapy.

00:16:33.780 And there are movies out about this.

00:16:35.840 We hear Mike Pence apparently wants to electrocute gay people.

00:16:38.260 I don't know where the left got that from, but that's what they say.

00:16:40.920 And so you hear these stories about, you know, parents making their kids go to,

00:16:45.960 they call it pray away the gay or something like that.

00:16:48.660 And it sounds really awful and that seems like child abuse and that's bad.

00:16:53.900 There is a doctor.

00:16:55.520 There are a few doctors who practice something called reintegrative therapy,

00:16:59.220 which is considered the same thing by the left.

00:17:02.220 But Dr. Nicolosi, who's one of the people who does this, draws a distinction.

00:17:06.720 And his version of the therapy is that the patients are in charge.

00:17:10.780 They come to him and they say, I don't want to have same-sex attractions anymore.

00:17:14.460 Is there anything you can do to help?

00:17:15.560 He says he has a way to help, so we decided to hear him out.

00:17:18.960 Here is Dr. Nicolosi.

00:17:21.560 Dr. Nicolosi, thank you so much for being here.

00:17:24.720 It's great to be here.

00:17:25.560 So we have heard in the popular culture a lot of things about gay conversion therapy,

00:17:31.080 reparative therapy.

00:17:32.320 For some reason, the left is all upset at Mike Pence.

00:17:35.640 They say that he electrocutes gay people.

00:17:37.480 I don't know where they got that from, but they seem to be obsessed with this.

00:17:41.340 And there's even a movie coming out called Boy Erased with Russell Crowe and Nicole Kidman,

00:17:47.860 I think, about this gay kid whose parents reject him and he's abused at some Protestant

00:17:56.500 anti-gay camp or something like that.

00:17:59.200 I haven't seen the movie, as you can tell.

00:18:00.780 You are a proponent of reparative therapy or therapy for people who are gay and they don't

00:18:07.880 want to be gay anymore.

00:18:10.200 But how does your work differ from everything that we're seeing in the popular culture?

00:18:15.240 We need to differentiate between two things.

00:18:17.720 One term is conversion therapy.

00:18:19.660 Now, conversion therapy is a term that's broad.

00:18:21.920 It's ill-defined.

00:18:23.220 There's no ethics code, no governing body.

00:18:26.020 And it's practiced by unlicensed individuals.

00:18:28.060 This is the stuff that we're seeing from Hollywood.

00:18:30.800 But in the work that we do, in our work in reintegrative therapy, the client is in the

00:18:34.880 driver's seat.

00:18:35.840 The licensed psychotherapist uses evidence-based mainstream treatment approaches, the same

00:18:40.380 treatment approaches used in other clinics throughout the world, to treat trauma and

00:18:44.300 sexual addiction.

00:18:45.560 And as those underlying dynamics are resolved, the sexuality changes as a byproduct.

00:18:50.600 Our clients notice significant and lasting decreases in their same-sex attractions and increases

00:18:56.360 in their heterosexual attractions.

00:18:58.060 Do you find, when you've worked with a lot of clients, I know your father was a leader

00:19:02.760 in this field.

00:19:03.380 He's worked with a lot of clients.

00:19:05.020 There's this question that the popular culture has been debating for years now, which is whether

00:19:09.320 homosexual attraction is biological or genetic, or whether it's the product of environmental

00:19:15.260 factors, or whether it's the combination of both of those things.

00:19:19.240 Now, obviously, it can be the product of environmental factors.

00:19:22.440 Early exposure to Cole Porter music, for instance.

00:19:24.700 You know, many, many of those sorts of things.

00:19:27.200 But there does seem to be some evidence, as far as I can tell, that there are biological,

00:19:32.660 innate genetic factors for a homosexual disposition.

00:19:35.980 Have you found that?

00:19:36.800 Is that what the literature says?

00:19:38.140 What have you found in your own work?

00:19:39.660 There is no so-called gay gene, but that's science fiction.

00:19:44.340 Here's the science.

00:19:45.480 We know that the brain is capable of something that we call neuroplasticity.

00:19:49.740 In fact, there's a new study released basically every week demonstrating that the brain has

00:19:53.940 this neuroplastic capability.

00:19:56.440 Neuroplasticity is the idea that the brain can wire and rewire itself based on our life

00:20:01.440 experiences.

00:20:02.100 And with neuroplasticity in mind, why would everybody's sexuality be set in stone?

00:20:07.540 So we see that there's further and further evidence of this.

00:20:10.180 And we also know that the regions of the brain that are responsible for sexual preference

00:20:14.020 are the same regions of the brain that we know change over time.

00:20:17.640 I can tell you this.

00:20:18.820 The hundreds of men that I've worked with in our clinic, they tell me very remarkably

00:20:24.200 similar patterns in their childhood experiences that they believe relate to their same-sex

00:20:29.580 attractions.

00:20:30.000 That's interesting.

00:20:31.500 And I wonder, too, if there is some sort of spectrum here of people who their same-sex

00:20:37.720 attraction is so hardwired that it isn't going to change and it would be fruitless to try

00:20:42.100 to change it.

00:20:42.820 And people where it's a little bit in the middle, you know, we always hear from lefties

00:20:46.920 and proponents of the sexual revolution that there's a Kinsey scale and everybody is a

00:20:51.960 little bit gay and I don't know, whatever they're saying now, one in four, maybe more at

00:20:55.520 my dear alma mater of Yale University.

00:20:58.100 And who knows?

00:20:58.620 But is that the case?

00:21:00.540 I mean, what percentage of patients would have success with this therapy?

00:21:04.820 Which percentage of patients would not have success?

00:21:07.140 And to address the concerns of the popular culture, could these therapies be damaging

00:21:11.620 to people or is that a fiction of Hollywood?

00:21:13.500 Okay, well, let's start with can people change?

00:21:18.720 What percentage of people change?

00:21:20.080 There's some new data that's going to be coming out soon that's going to give us more

00:21:23.240 precise information on exactly that topic.

00:21:26.200 But we need to look at what's most important, which is that we've got to look at the motivations

00:21:30.760 of individuals who are saying, look, homosexuality isn't for me.

00:21:34.020 And there are three reasons that I see in my practice.

00:21:36.440 One, individuals who were sexually abused by someone of the same sex when they were young,

00:21:41.420 resulting in conflict and confusion and lingering effects of the abuse.

00:21:45.140 And these are individuals who, as adults, say they want to resolve this.

00:21:48.920 And we see that with standard trauma therapy, when we focus on treating the sexual abuse

00:21:53.460 memories, these adults often describe their sexuality changing on its own.

00:21:57.420 The second is individuals who, because of their closely held beliefs, maybe they're Muslims,

00:22:02.540 Jews, Christians, Buddhists.

00:22:04.860 These are all people who say, I believe I was designed heterosexual.

00:22:08.480 And the last is individuals who, they're not religious.

00:22:12.120 They don't find a deeply held belief.

00:22:13.740 They weren't traumatized, but they're here for pragmatic reasons.

00:22:17.460 They say, look, I tried homosexuality.

00:22:19.140 I came out 10 years ago.

00:22:20.680 I find homosexuality and homosexual relationships compelling, but at the end, not really fulfilling.

00:22:26.380 And they wish to explore heterosexuality.

00:22:29.020 And I believe no one should interfere with that.

00:22:31.260 That's their right to pursue if they choose.

00:22:32.820 Well, this is the irony of the sexual revolution, is they say everybody should be free to pursue

00:22:37.380 the sexuality they want to pursue, unless I say that you can't, and then you can't.

00:22:41.120 And it's the second one, that religious objection, that to me seems like the most obvious one.

00:22:46.620 If people have any variety of creative sexual preferences, say, you know, a little slap and

00:22:52.260 tickle here and there, or a same-sex attraction or whatever, you can,

00:22:56.380 choose not to pursue that.

00:22:58.380 This has been true throughout the history of the church.

00:23:00.660 It's certainly true in other religions as well.

00:23:02.880 So it's that aspect that the patient coming to you and saying, I want to change this about

00:23:08.260 me.

00:23:08.400 Is there any way to do it?

00:23:09.380 That seems compelling.

00:23:10.580 How do you answer the charges of these Hollywood movies like Boy Erased that portray reparative

00:23:17.840 therapy or, you know, I forget the technical term.

00:23:22.260 What is the technical term that you use?

00:23:24.100 Therapy.

00:23:24.700 We're using reintegrative therapy.

00:23:25.720 Reintegrative therapy.

00:23:26.580 Who say that this is just a way to abuse children who are confused about their sexuality.

00:23:32.660 Is there only one age group that goes through this therapy?

00:23:36.860 Has that age group changed over time?

00:23:38.480 What do you see with your patients?

00:23:40.600 Okay.

00:23:40.880 So what we see in reality is very different from Hollywood.

00:23:43.580 So Hollywood has all sorts of depictions.

00:23:45.820 That's true of everything, by the way.

00:23:48.000 Yes.

00:23:48.760 Yes.

00:23:49.680 If people are interested not in watching a fictional Hollywood film, but watching an

00:23:53.380 actual real-life documentary, we just released a film.

00:23:55.940 We commissioned a skeptical Hollywood filmmaker to get to know the actual clients who've gone

00:24:01.340 through this therapy.

00:24:02.040 The movie is called Free to Love.

00:24:04.280 It's on freetolovemovie.com.

00:24:06.440 And this filmmaker goes in and he asks these individuals who went through this therapy,

00:24:10.340 the real-life people, what they went through, what was their success, and what he found

00:24:14.920 is shocking and surprising.

00:24:16.240 It's freetolovemovie.com.

00:24:18.300 That's interesting.

00:24:19.460 I think people should definitely check it out because Hollywood is certainly making their

00:24:24.200 own movies on this, and it would be interesting to see the other side of it.

00:24:27.920 The other question is about the public policy of it all.

00:24:33.060 I know that you were very helpful in having California pull back on AB 2943, which was going

00:24:38.860 to ban all of these therapies that would have, therapies that cover what you do.

00:24:44.940 And why did that get shut down?

00:24:47.600 What was the process of that?

00:24:49.300 And what does it have to do with religious liberty?

00:24:50.860 And what does it have to do with individual liberty in the country?

00:24:54.880 Those are quite a few questions.

00:24:56.200 I'll do what I can.

00:24:58.040 So we don't know the exact reason.

00:24:59.820 We may never know the exact reason why AB 2943 was pulled by the bill sponsor on the

00:25:05.440 very last day.

00:25:06.380 We don't know exactly, but it probably had a lot to do with a lot of individuals saying,

00:25:10.960 look, I was sexually abused when I was young.

00:25:13.020 Don't take my right away to walk away from homosexuality.

00:25:16.020 I don't want to be kept in homosexuality against the will, against my will.

00:25:19.500 Or other individuals who say, well, wait a second, the client should be in the driver's

00:25:23.000 seat of their own psychotherapy, not the government.

00:25:25.620 And this is not the kind of legislation that would pass, I think, in court.

00:25:31.200 I think it would get torn to shreds.

00:25:32.780 So what we really need to focus on is that the clients are in the driver's seat and the

00:25:37.580 reality that sexuality is fluid and not fixed.

00:25:40.960 These are the most important points for us to know.

00:25:42.940 There's neuroplasticity.

00:25:44.780 Neuroplasticity, the brain can change.

00:25:46.600 It changes based on our life experience.

00:25:49.080 Sexuality is not fixed for everyone.

00:25:50.620 That's a very interesting point.

00:25:52.720 And it's funny, too, because it seems that the movement against your form of therapy and

00:25:58.680 the sexual revolution more broadly keeps changing its mind on this.

00:26:03.140 It says either sexuality is entirely biologically determined.

00:26:07.660 That's the I was born this way version of it.

00:26:10.100 And then the other is we can change whatever we want, become whatever we want.

00:26:13.320 I can become a woman or you can become a man or whatever.

00:26:15.420 However, when they talk about child abuse with reintegrative therapy or all of the bastardizations

00:26:23.020 that are unlicensed that Hollywood takes on, I wonder how come they never talk about the

00:26:30.340 transgender hormone therapy being used on little children?

00:26:33.960 We have on the other side of this political debate left-wing activists who are advocating

00:26:38.780 that we chemically castrate children before puberty.

00:26:41.580 How come that is never brought up as child abuse?

00:26:43.580 What are the politics of this debate and how long has this been going on?

00:26:48.060 OK, so the heart of what you're talking about right now is ultimately the hypocrisy that

00:26:53.920 we are seeing on the hard left.

00:26:55.700 So let's talk about this.

00:26:56.760 In this particular case, there are three examples of real hypocrisy on the hard left that we're

00:27:01.740 seeing related to these bills like AB 2943.

00:27:05.580 You know, there are these individuals who say we should just have this is different between

00:27:09.920 the LGBT movement and the hard left leaders of the LGBT movement.

00:27:13.360 These hard left leaders had been telling us, look, in terms of gay rights, people should

00:27:17.700 just have the right to love whoever they want.

00:27:20.000 But with this legislation, they're now trying to take away the rights of individuals to love

00:27:24.040 whoever they want.

00:27:24.820 My clients are men who want to love women.

00:27:26.940 No one has the right to deny them that.

00:27:28.660 The second is that the hard left has been telling us, no, LGBT individuals should have equal access

00:27:33.660 to all forms of health care.

00:27:35.540 Well, what about clients who want to see me as a licensed clinical psychologist?

00:27:38.640 The third and perhaps the most stunning is that there are individuals in the hard left

00:27:43.660 who welcome people into the gay community, but they will try to block those same individuals

00:27:48.780 when those people want to leave the gay community.

00:27:51.760 That bullying, that's wrong.

00:27:53.380 And in the name of anti-bullying, the hard left have become the real bullies.

00:27:57.380 That's the point, I think, that is totally mistaken because when, mistaken by the left, I mean,

00:28:04.740 because when you watch the trailer for Boy Erased, your heart is just ripped out of your chest.

00:28:11.380 You say, these bastards trying to, you know, shame this boy and ruin his life or something.

00:28:17.020 But you have to ask yourself, is that what is really happening?

00:28:20.240 In your practice, do teenage boys come in and say, I really want to be gay?

00:28:24.820 And you say, well, you can't be.

00:28:26.700 Is that the reality that we're talking about?

00:28:29.740 No, we use mainstream evidence-based approaches to treat trauma and underlying sexual addictions.

00:28:36.160 And as we do that, the sexuality changes on its own.

00:28:38.380 I'll give you a quick example of this.

00:28:40.560 In fact, I'll summarize.

00:28:42.440 So many of my clients who have never met one another, they describe remarkably similar backgrounds

00:28:47.040 in their childhoods, things that are not being addressed by Hollywood.

00:28:50.760 My clients consistently report having distant, detached, critical fathers, higher anxiety,

00:28:56.440 sometimes intrusive mothers, and they themselves were boys who were temperamentally sensitive.

00:29:01.120 If you put these factors together, it seems to increase the probability that the boy will

00:29:05.280 have difficulty making that gender identity shift away from the mother and toward the father

00:29:10.160 that is typical in young childhood.

00:29:12.400 Oftentimes, my clients had a bullying older brother.

00:29:14.640 If you put these factors together, it makes it harder.

00:29:17.040 These individuals, my clients, when they were growing up, girls with their closest friends,

00:29:21.460 they knew girls like the back of their hands, but boys and roughhousing.

00:29:25.080 And my clients felt scared.

00:29:27.080 They felt intimidated by these kinds of behaviors.

00:29:30.120 They didn't know how to connect with other guys.

00:29:32.260 And their childhoods were filled with getting female attention, affection, approval, but no

00:29:36.660 male attention, affection, approval.

00:29:38.720 Eventually, in puberty, those underlying desires became sexual.

00:29:42.440 This story is happening again and again and again.

00:29:45.460 And the mainstream media refused to acknowledge these individuals and their stories.

00:29:50.040 But they can only do it for so long because the internet, the proliferation of information,

00:29:55.140 the traditional gatekeepers of information, the mainstream media, are now being abolished.

00:30:00.880 And films like Free to Love and other people's testimonies are coming out.

00:30:04.960 They can't contain this story forever.

00:30:06.580 Well, I can't wait to see the film because we've seen the other side.

00:30:11.320 So I look forward to seeing that film.

00:30:13.120 And it is a funny irony that for years and years we've been told by the left,

00:30:17.100 do whatever you want as long as you don't do it in the streets and scare the horses.

00:30:20.860 And that's kind of been the mantra of the last century or so.

00:30:24.360 And yet, now we're being told by those very same people, unless you want to do this,

00:30:29.520 unless you want to change sexual behavior, unless you want to, for whatever reason,

00:30:34.220 stop living in the sexual way that you're currently living.

00:30:38.160 So I think that really helps to clear things up.

00:30:41.820 And it's also funny, too, because there are people who call you a quack,

00:30:46.580 you know, say there's no, the science isn't in, the science isn't settled.

00:30:50.240 And yet, those are the same people who are saying that a little boy who says he's a little girl

00:30:55.160 should have chemicals and hormones shot into his body

00:30:57.840 and should delay or permanently prevent him from going through puberty.

00:31:03.200 It's a real irony.

00:31:04.540 So I really appreciate you coming on.

00:31:05.940 I really appreciate your explanation.

00:31:07.640 And I look forward to seeing the movie, Free to Love.

00:31:10.300 Dr. Nicolosi, thank you very much for being here.

00:31:12.960 Thank you, Michael.

00:31:14.700 Hollywood never shows that guy, I notice.

00:31:16.600 It's always some, like, wackos in some 20-person town whipping little kids and stuff.

00:31:22.940 Very interesting to talk to him.

00:31:24.680 You know, my one bit of skepticism on innate factors is that I always remember loving girls

00:31:31.980 and being attracted to girls, you know, from, like, probably when I was two years old.

00:31:36.940 But who knows?

00:31:38.640 In a culture that is willing to chemically castrate children because of apparent gender confusion,

00:31:45.720 that is willing to pump them full of hormones and ruin puberty and ruin their lives,

00:31:50.480 it seems perfectly acceptable for people who want to change their sexual preferences

00:31:55.800 to go see a therapist who can try to help them.

00:31:58.360 That seems much more defensible than shooting kids full of hormones and delaying puberty.

00:32:03.460 So, at the very least, those lefties who are so outraged about reparative therapy

00:32:10.460 and reintegrative therapy, maybe take a look in the mirror before you start throwing stones.

00:32:14.780 The reason I have my laptop up, you know that I hate having laptops up when I'm talking to people

00:32:19.760 on screens and everything, but there is breaking news.

00:32:21.800 I want to read it right now from the New York Times.

00:32:24.680 Headline.

00:32:25.660 Rosenstein, Rod Rosenstein, Deputy Attorney General, suggested he secretly record Trump

00:32:30.700 and discussed the 25th Amendment.

00:32:33.480 This just came out.

00:32:34.220 The story says,

00:32:36.300 The Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein, suggested last year that he secretly record

00:32:42.620 President Trump in the White House to expose the chaos consuming the administration,

00:32:46.900 and he discussed recruiting cabinet members to invoke the 25th Amendment

00:32:50.740 to remove Mr. Trump from office for being unfit.

00:32:55.500 The story goes on.

00:32:56.740 He was just two weeks into his job at this point.

00:32:58.940 He had begun overseeing the Russia investigation, played a key role in the dismissal of James Comey

00:33:05.160 by memo.

00:33:07.900 He made the remarks in conversations with other Justice Department and FBI officials.

00:33:14.440 The people who have divulged this to the New York Times, obviously, have been insisting on anonymity.

00:33:19.600 So, here's the other side of anonymous sources, as occasionally they turn on the bureaucrats themselves.

00:33:25.460 The people were briefed on the events themselves by FBI officials, including Andy McCabe,

00:33:31.540 then the acting bureau director that documented Mr. Rosenstein's actions and comments.

00:33:38.180 This is what we've been saying all the time.

00:33:41.200 This is what we've been saying since the beginning.

00:33:44.360 When people are talking about the deep state, what they're talking about is that.

00:33:49.060 It's bureaucrats, career bureaucrats, unaccountable, unelected officials who decide that they know

00:33:58.220 better than the American people and they're going to overturn a presidential election.

00:34:02.000 That is what we're talking about.

00:34:03.620 That is not a conspiracy theory.

00:34:05.400 That is real.

00:34:06.940 Now, for his part, I think Rosenstein denies the report.

00:34:09.620 But that's the report.

00:34:10.600 Who knows what it's worth?

00:34:11.620 It's in the New York Times, so take it with a grain of salt.

00:34:13.680 But it is surprising that they would go after their own guys like this,

00:34:19.300 that they would run a story that would seem to benefit President Trump if it weren't true.

00:34:24.580 That is some incredible news, using, wielding the power of the state to undo a presidential election.

00:34:31.880 Those are the two groups that we see here.

00:34:35.400 We see it in the Kavanaugh hearing.

00:34:36.920 We see it on every public policy debate.

00:34:38.500 We see it in the election.

00:34:39.440 We see it in the deep state conversation.

00:34:42.780 There is one group that wants to uphold the rule of law,

00:34:45.980 that wants to uphold our Constitution and defer to people as being able to govern themselves in America.

00:34:52.280 That is one group.

00:34:53.040 Even if the election doesn't turn out the way that you want it to,

00:34:55.420 even if it's 2008 or 2012 all over again, want to uphold the rule of law.

00:34:59.640 There is another group that wants to totally subvert the rule of law,

00:35:02.900 that hates the rule of law, that hates the Constitution,

00:35:05.880 that hates the country, that hates the American people.

00:35:08.340 They love humanity in abstract, but they don't like humans when they meet them.

00:35:12.360 That does not trust the American people, doesn't trust us to govern ourselves.

00:35:16.380 Those are the two groups.

00:35:18.660 And so they're going to come up and support 36-year-old vague, quasi-accusations

00:35:25.860 to torpedo unimpeachable Supreme Court nominees.

00:35:29.100 They're going to try to wield the power of the federal government to undo a presidential election,

00:35:33.720 to try to kick out a duly elected president.

00:35:35.760 They're going to do everything they can.

00:35:37.180 Those are the stakes.

00:35:38.120 And we're sitting here talking about Stormy Daniels.

00:35:41.120 That's the national conversation.

00:35:42.540 Stormy Daniels.

00:35:43.680 Mario Kart.

00:35:44.920 Whether the girl 36 years ago had a beer like Kavanaugh.

00:35:49.560 And was it Kavanaugh or this guy?

00:35:50.820 Who cares?

00:35:51.740 Those are the stakes.

00:35:54.780 Those are the stakes that we're up against.

00:35:56.720 Incredible story.

00:35:57.600 If there's anything more, we'll try to cover it before the end of the show.

00:35:59.540 Now we've got to move on to the culture because while perhaps in the politics we shouldn't

00:36:06.240 focus on frivolous things, in the culture we have to focus on frivolous things because

00:36:10.040 that's all the culture is these days.

00:36:11.780 Merriam-Webster's Dictionary has added a new fake word.

00:36:16.040 They add fake words every so often.

00:36:17.760 They've added a new one, which is Latinx.

00:36:21.060 L-A-T-I-N-X.

00:36:24.840 Latinx.

00:36:25.420 Latinx.

00:36:26.100 I've heard it pronounced both ways.

00:36:27.460 Either way, it's unpronounceable.

00:36:28.580 And this is because the word Latino, which refers to Hispanic people, that's sexist.

00:36:36.220 Because Latino, in romance languages, in Spanish and Italian, the gender-neutral gender is the

00:36:45.140 masculine gender.

00:36:46.900 So this is true.

00:36:49.280 In Italian, you could have libro as a book, right?

00:36:53.780 That's a masculine word.

00:36:55.840 It ends in O.

00:36:56.460 Typically, if it ends in O, it's masculine.

00:36:59.380 If it ends in A, it's feminine.

00:37:01.480 That isn't always true, but that's because those languages have genders.

00:37:04.740 The social justice left in America, liberal white people in America have decided this is

00:37:09.880 unacceptable.

00:37:11.020 So to help those benighted, poor, Hispanic, Latinx people down below the border, we're going

00:37:16.660 to go in and totally change their language because their language isn't acceptable anymore.

00:37:19.800 The first time anyone even mentioned this was about 10 years ago, 15 years ago.

00:37:24.240 No, I think it was 2004, so 14 years ago.

00:37:27.100 And there were a few options.

00:37:29.120 There was Latin A at, Latin at sign, like an email address.

00:37:35.460 But that's absurd because that's just a random symbol.

00:37:37.580 So then they added an X, which is a way that Spanish people would not end their words.

00:37:42.480 That's just not how the language works.

00:37:43.760 We will explain the silliness behind all of that and talk about sexy handmaid's tale

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00:38:43.440 I have two distinct thoughts on the Latinx.

00:38:47.960 On the one hand, it's absurd.

00:38:50.300 It's absurd and ridiculous to try to remove gender from language.

00:38:54.800 It, because what we're trying, when we try to remove gender, when we try to abstract gender

00:38:58.860 from sex, when we try to say that there's no such thing as sexual difference, we know,

00:39:03.180 it butts up against reality.

00:39:04.940 We know that isn't the case.

00:39:06.320 We'll get to this in a second, too, in The Handmaid's Tale.

00:39:08.740 We know that isn't the case.

00:39:10.060 We know that there is sexual difference.

00:39:11.600 It feels so tedious and politically correct, and like you're living in a fantasy.

00:39:15.360 And you see this with people who are PC all the time.

00:39:17.780 They have to constantly preface every single thing they're going to say.

00:39:20.740 Say, well, I want, and by the way, I just want you to know that I'm a da-da-da-da,

00:39:23.560 but that isn't to say that I'm a da-da-da, and I also, and I'm sorry if ba-ba-ba-da-da,

00:39:26.580 and you're like, shut up.

00:39:27.200 Just spit it out.

00:39:28.160 I don't have that much time.

00:39:28.940 Tell me what you're going to say.

00:39:30.240 So we know that this is an absurd fantasy world, because sexual difference does matter,

00:39:35.280 and it's, it adheres in these languages.

00:39:38.000 But then my second thought on the Latinx is I love it.

00:39:41.660 I love it, because it exposes the left for what they are, which is imperialists.

00:39:45.840 They are imperialists.

00:39:46.980 What they are saying is these liberal white wackos with purple hair in America are saying,

00:39:52.200 hey, Hispanic people, you're anti-Hispanic.

00:39:55.400 Stop using that language of yours, and use our language to describe you,

00:39:59.800 because we're compassionate, and we're supporting you.

00:40:02.500 You say, what?

00:40:03.460 Well, then stop telling us to, then stop telling us how to do our language.

00:40:07.260 I don't know.

00:40:08.060 I was trying, that's not a great Latinx accent.

00:40:11.260 It's crazy.

00:40:12.260 By the way, the English, if you want to refer to it in English, it's Latin.

00:40:15.440 That's it.

00:40:15.800 It's not Latino, it's Latina, it's not Latin at, it's not Latinx.

00:40:19.760 It's Latin, because we speak English.

00:40:22.860 Latino and Latinx are not English words, until Merriam-Webster wants to pretend that they are.

00:40:27.220 It's Latin, that's fine.

00:40:28.520 When I, I don't refer to Italianos, I don't say like, hey, yeah, so I was, I was down in

00:40:34.560 the Bronx the other day, and I was hanging out with some of my Italiano friends, you

00:40:38.020 know, I don't do, I say Italian friends.

00:40:40.500 Siciliano friends, you know, no, nobody does that.

00:40:42.820 Oh, I was going, you know, I was down there hanging out with les Français.

00:40:45.780 Les Français.

00:40:47.120 Mes amis français.

00:40:48.060 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, la, la.

00:40:48.840 No, it's so stupid.

00:40:50.060 But when it comes to Spanish, when it comes to issues of Hispanic people or Latin people,

00:40:55.740 we have to all of a sudden affect these crazy accents and, and pretend that we're speaking

00:41:01.020 another language, which we're not.

00:41:02.300 And then pretend that that other language is even a separate language, which exists only

00:41:06.200 in fiction.

00:41:06.900 It's crazy.

00:41:07.820 They only do it when it comes to Latin Americans because it's all about political ideology.

00:41:12.600 I talk about this all the time.

00:41:14.600 The way they use these words is 1,000% political ideology.

00:41:19.060 We should reject it and we should laugh at it.

00:41:21.100 Speaking of rejecting and laughing at political ideologies, this is the greatest story of the

00:41:26.360 day.

00:41:27.360 There is a shop on the internet, I think it's called yandy.com, something like that, which

00:41:33.340 is selling a Handmaid's Tale costume just in time for Halloween.

00:41:37.720 But you know the Handmaid's Tale, it's those big frumpy red, they look like burkas, but

00:41:43.160 they wouldn't call them burkas because they don't want to be anti-Islam.

00:41:45.500 So there's giant potato sacks and the bonnets and everything and they can't, you know.

00:41:50.200 But the difference with this Halloween costume is it's super sexy.

00:41:54.220 So it's this little slip, you know, you get a lot of leg, it's nice and form-fitting.

00:41:58.620 And the left is so upset about this because of the whole point, they're saying, we live

00:42:02.840 in Trump's America where women have to wear potato sacks and it's like a Muslim country

00:42:07.920 even though we wouldn't say it's like a Muslim country.

00:42:09.480 We just can't, it's awful.

00:42:11.100 And then meanwhile, the actual version of this, which is selling, is this like sexy little

00:42:16.840 number because women can wear whatever they want and they can dye their hair purple and

00:42:19.560 who cares, it's America, it's free.

00:42:21.380 Do whatever you want.

00:42:22.600 It totally cuts against their narrative.

00:42:24.780 I'm probably going to wear this for Halloween, so you might want to shield your eyes now,

00:42:29.100 keep them closed for the next month and a half or so.

00:42:31.500 So just a wonderful thing.

00:42:33.060 Go out there, get that costume.

00:42:34.720 I love these moments where the left, they're so insistent on a narrative and then reality

00:42:41.440 just punches them in the face.

00:42:42.880 That could be the history of the 2016 election.

00:42:47.480 But, you know it's amazing now too because the left, they still wield cultural power.

00:42:53.400 So it's not like we can just show them and we punch them in the face and that's it and

00:42:57.500 we win because the left wields this awful power such that they made Yandy pull it off

00:43:03.100 their sight.

00:43:04.740 Now look, the thing is popular.

00:43:06.040 It's funny.

00:43:06.480 We're having a good time.

00:43:07.220 It's a Halloween costume.

00:43:08.320 All that craziness at Yale a few years ago started because a professor said people can

00:43:13.560 wear whatever Halloween costume they want.

00:43:15.320 And the student said, how dare you say you can wear any Halloween costume?

00:43:18.180 We're 20-year-old Yale students.

00:43:19.620 We can't dress ourselves.

00:43:21.180 And it became this huge deal.

00:43:22.820 Professors lost their jobs.

00:43:24.700 Now, so Yandy, this company, I think it's what, I hope that's what it's called.

00:43:27.880 It is what it's called, right?

00:43:28.880 Yandy.

00:43:29.320 They caved and they pulled it off of their sight, which means, by the way, the ones that

00:43:32.600 have already been ordered are going to be selling for like $500 on eBay pretty soon.

00:43:37.380 But we can't let the left get away with this.

00:43:39.800 We can't let them get away with this.

00:43:41.340 I think the whole country is like that panel on CNN, you know, or at least a lot of the country,

00:43:46.320 which is, hey, do you guys care about this Kavanaugh thing?

00:43:48.680 Raise your hand if you don't.

00:43:49.500 Nope, don't care.

00:43:50.620 Move on.

00:43:51.540 But the left, even if there are only 10 of these wacko lefty activists, they are enough

00:43:55.640 to get people to pull it off the website, to get Rod Rosenstein trying to get people to

00:44:01.280 throw the president out of office for no reason at all using the 25th Amendment.

00:44:05.960 They're really potent, so you really got to watch out.

00:44:08.800 Of course, I'm running late today.

00:44:10.060 I don't even care because I have one more story that I want to talk about.

00:44:12.840 This is a big deal, so I don't want you to miss out on a great deal if you're by Long

00:44:16.880 Beach, California tomorrow.

00:44:17.960 Tomorrow, one day only, Arby's, one of the great fast food franchises, perhaps the greatest,

00:44:25.420 Arby's is offering you an incredible opportunity.

00:44:28.280 You can go to a tattoo parlor and have them brand the Arby's corporate logo on your body

00:44:33.960 in exchange for nothing.

00:44:35.820 You'll get absolutely nothing at all.

00:44:37.160 That's it.

00:44:40.080 That's the deal.

00:44:41.000 That's the deal.

00:44:42.080 You brand their logo on your flesh and mutilate yourself, and that's it.

00:44:47.140 Just because.

00:44:48.600 I bet people are going to do it.

00:44:50.040 I bet people are going to do it.

00:44:51.320 This follows on the heels of Domino's in Russia.

00:44:54.700 Domino's Pizza doing the same thing.

00:44:56.620 Or doing a similar version, which is they said, if you get Domino's tattooed on your flesh,

00:45:02.160 we'll give you free pizza for life.

00:45:03.440 They figured like three insane people were going to do this.

00:45:07.080 The promo was going to run for two months.

00:45:08.560 They had to shut it down after only a few days because everybody in Russia was doing it.

00:45:12.680 They said, oh, free pizza?

00:45:13.700 Yeah, I'll destroy my body.

00:45:14.600 They actually, there was a Russian woman, she was quoted in the Wall Street Journal, Russian

00:45:20.360 millennial.

00:45:20.800 She said, oh, yeah, they would have had a million people demanding pizzas.

00:45:24.960 They had to stop it.

00:45:26.400 Now, this requires a little bit of nihilism, I think, a little nihilism to trade your flesh

00:45:33.260 for a piece of cheap pizza that isn't even that good.

00:45:35.900 But we shouldn't be surprised to find such nihilism in Russia, which is renowned for its

00:45:42.260 multiple suicide games.

00:45:44.400 In fact, one, the most famous suicide game in the world is called Russian Roulette.

00:45:48.460 Perhaps we find it there.

00:45:49.480 Now we're seeing it even in America, though.

00:45:50.860 I would not be surprised if Arby's gets a few takers.

00:45:53.380 Because among millennials, nearly the lion's share, nearly the majority are getting tattoos.

00:45:59.840 I think it's about 40% now, depending on where you put the age brackets.

00:46:03.140 But for ages 18 to 29, 38% of those Americans have at least one tattoo.

00:46:10.380 And this causes us to go into the history of tattoos a little bit.

00:46:13.220 Tattoos have always been around humanity.

00:46:15.200 I think it was the Iceman, the 5,000-year-old guy that we plucked out of the ice a number of

00:46:20.000 years ago, had tattoos on him.

00:46:21.920 The Lombards, the invading Lombards in the, what was it, the 8th century, I think, they

00:46:26.860 had tattoos on them.

00:46:27.940 In the 4th century, Emperor Constantine banned tattooing the faces of prisoners because he

00:46:35.660 found it to be unchristian.

00:46:37.520 Now prisoners tattoo their own faces, so it doesn't matter.

00:46:40.200 They put those little teardrops and things like that.

00:46:41.980 And in popular culture, it's always been acceptable for soldiers and criminals to have tattoos.

00:46:46.840 Tattoos, and the reason for that is because those traits, if you're a warrior or if you're

00:46:51.540 a criminal, then hyper-masculinity, a sort of brutality, a sort of sheer force and violence

00:46:57.260 and tribalism is required for the job, for either good or bad.

00:47:00.380 If you're a soldier, it's for good.

00:47:01.320 If you're a criminal, it's for bad.

00:47:02.700 But that makes a lot of sense.

00:47:04.360 Then in more recent years, we've added cultural acceptability for tattoos that have some kind

00:47:09.140 of meaning to you.

00:47:10.040 So, you know, a kid is born and you tattoo the name or a poem that you really like or something.

00:47:14.900 I kind of see the argument for that.

00:47:16.860 I'm not, you know, I'm not the most hyper-masculine, brutal guy on earth, so I don't have any tattoos.

00:47:21.000 Never served in our armed forces or committed a felony, so I've never been able to do it.

00:47:25.420 But I do, I do get the argument for that.

00:47:28.260 The thing that worries me, though, with millennials is I see a lot of them just getting random tattoos

00:47:32.520 that mean nothing.

00:47:34.460 So I've seen, I was at a store the other day and I saw, a retail worker had the phrase,

00:47:40.700 S, a four-letter word that starts with S, Cray, written in cursive on his index finger.

00:47:47.660 That was his tattoo.

00:47:49.220 I've seen millennials get citrus fruit tattooed on their joints, just like a, you know, an

00:47:57.380 orange or something or a grapefruit or who knows, whatever.

00:48:00.480 I've seen friends get just random geometric shapes tattooed on their arm.

00:48:05.860 Why?

00:48:06.060 I don't know, just because.

00:48:07.180 That really worries me.

00:48:08.340 That actually does, I'm not, you know, the other tattoos I kind of get, but the ones that

00:48:13.160 are just nothing is a celebration of meaninglessness and it's a really aimless activity and it does

00:48:22.120 indict our generation.

00:48:23.600 You know, this generation has an increasing number of religiously unaffiliated people,

00:48:29.100 people who don't see any objective meaning in the world, only subjective purposes that you

00:48:33.880 can give and sort of fly away.

00:48:36.400 That's a problem.

00:48:37.280 That's a, I don't, I mean, who cares if they've got a tomato on their elbow?

00:48:40.200 I don't really care.

00:48:40.980 But what it says about the culture is that we're really losing a sense of purpose and

00:48:45.260 you're going to see that reflected in your politics.

00:48:46.940 You're going to see that reflected in your culture.

00:48:49.060 And, you know, there's only more of the younger generation coming.

00:48:52.320 They're only more entering the workforce and even younger than that.

00:48:55.440 So we really should straighten out this issue and we're going to do it, baby.

00:48:58.720 We're going to straighten everything out next week.

00:49:00.180 This was a long news cycle week.

00:49:02.680 All of this Kavanaugh nonsense.

00:49:04.220 I'm sure it will continue.

00:49:05.520 So we'll try to get, start the next week on the right foot.

00:49:08.800 That's our show.

00:49:09.460 Have a good weekend.

00:49:10.160 Binge season one of Another Kingdom because we've got season two coming up and it is going

00:49:13.540 to be really, really good.

00:49:14.980 In the meantime, I'm Michael Knowles.

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Ep. 221 - Help Us, Cocaine Mitch. You’re Our Only Hope

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