The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 23 - Arming Snowflakes： Antonia Okafor on Campus Carry

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00:00:38.000 College snowflakes are melting down at universities across the country,

00:00:42.480 assaulting professors and vandalizing buildings.

00:00:45.500 Antonia Okafor is here to tell us why we should let them have guns. 1.00

00:00:48.900 Then, Zoe Rachel and Paul Bois join the panel of deplorables

00:00:52.120 to discuss Democrat Senator Dianne Feinstein's anti-Catholic religious test,

00:00:57.200 Hillary's wonderfully destructive book tour, Trump's DACA deal with Pelosi, 0.99

00:01:01.560 and the alleged asexuality of women's nipples. 0.99

00:01:04.880 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show. 0.97

00:01:06.860 I am joined today by campus carry activist Antonia Okafor.

00:01:19.920 And really, Antonia needs no introduction. 1.00

00:01:22.080 But for those of you who are unfamiliar with her work,

00:01:24.660 I just wanted to play a quick clip of Antonia every day of her life.

00:01:27.860 That is a striking resemblance to John Rambo.

00:01:40.260 A striking resemblance.

00:01:41.660 You look much better in person.

00:01:42.900 Thank you.

00:01:43.440 I have not been working out as much as I used to, so...

00:01:46.260 Yeah.

00:01:46.860 You're much less of an Italian man than you used to be.

00:01:49.120 Yeah, exactly.

00:01:49.480 That's amazing.

00:01:50.100 Yeah.

00:01:50.300 So you are the leading campus carry activist in the country, probably.

00:01:55.020 Oh, wow.

00:01:55.720 That's what I would say.

00:01:56.720 I'm not even flattering you.

00:01:58.200 I think that's true.

00:01:59.460 What is the 30-second pitch to let students at college campuses carry guns?

00:02:04.740 Oh, yeah.

00:02:05.220 Well, okay.

00:02:05.600 First of all, I do not think that the people that are snowflake-worthy of that name

00:02:10.400 should probably have a gun.

00:02:12.060 But more likely, they're against guns, so it's okay.

00:02:13.920 And the hot barrel would just melt them.

00:02:15.560 So it's really a moot point.

00:02:16.660 It really would.

00:02:18.140 The silencer that they don't want people to have, too, would just also do the same.

00:02:22.000 But basically, it's the fact that those people who already have a concealed carry license off

00:02:27.720 campus, that they should have that same right on campus.

00:02:30.880 That's really what campus carry is about.

00:02:32.540 It's not also, it's not about making these superheroes or whatever.

00:02:35.340 Oh, you have a permit, and you have a gun, and therefore, now you're able to protect

00:02:38.780 everybody on campus in case something happens.

00:02:40.940 It's about, really, liberty.

00:02:42.400 It's about personal protection, about making sure that I have that right to self-preservation.

00:02:46.660 That the Second Amendment guarantees, really, under God, really, not really by the government.

00:02:52.580 It's a natural right that the government's just supposed to protect.

00:02:55.080 It is a natural right, yeah.

00:02:55.660 And even more so, those people who just hate the Constitution.

00:02:59.240 If you just bring it into the whole self-defense aspect of it, it's like, you know, you talk

00:03:02.940 about sexual assault on campus.

00:03:05.000 Well, why don't you allow these women to be able to protect themselves on campus? 1.00

00:03:09.720 And that's what the whole campus carry issue is about, really.

00:03:12.140 Because women are not as physically strong as men. 0.98

00:03:14.560 That's just a biological fact.

00:03:16.460 Wow, okay.

00:03:16.960 I know, I know.

00:03:17.800 You're going to bring biology into this.

00:03:18.860 I'm triggering the whole audience here.

00:03:20.700 Yeah, whatever.

00:03:21.140 But they aren't.

00:03:22.760 And then there's this great equalizer, this sweet, sweet justice that just sends freedom

00:03:27.220 seeds down the firing range.

00:03:29.240 When you became a campus carry activist, you were not a gun nut.

00:03:32.800 You were, you had just shot a few times, right?

00:03:35.440 What made you pick this issue?

00:03:37.580 Yeah, I think that's why I bring the whole liberty aspect of it into it, is because it

00:03:41.580 really was not a, oh, yeah, I love guns, and I just want everyone to have guns.

00:03:46.440 I mean, now, two years in, I do really love guns.

00:03:50.540 But, you know, that's not where it started.

00:03:52.460 You know, it started because, selfishly, you know, I was a woman on a college campus.

00:03:57.400 I was a graduate student.

00:03:58.300 And I was walking home at night, and I realized that I had no means of self-protection, of

00:04:04.420 protecting myself, that, you know, it's not okay for me to just have, you know, 9-1-1

00:04:08.760 in one hand with my cell phone.

00:04:10.400 And that's literally what I would do, have 9-1-1 and have it pre-dialed and have my finger

00:04:14.200 on the submit button.

00:04:16.280 And then I would have, you know, the rape whistle that they give you in a freshman year

00:04:20.540 orientation saying, here you go. 1.00

00:04:22.300 I hope you don't get raped. 0.99

00:04:23.640 I mean, that's basic. 1.00

00:04:24.660 But I hope someone hears you afterwards.

00:04:26.200 So that's basically what it came down to.

00:04:28.160 And I realized, you know, I don't want that for women. 1.00

00:04:30.760 And to be an empowered woman, I think it's really about, you know, protecting yourself

00:04:35.280 before something happens, not talking about health care insurance that, you know, deals

00:04:40.140 with something that has already happened.

00:04:41.820 That's right.

00:04:42.440 And that's the whole thing.

00:04:43.520 There is this insane idea that you're going, you have a rape whistle, and you're going

00:04:47.300 to blow the whistle, and then the rapist is going to say, okay, all right, well, I didn't

00:04:51.120 know you had a whistle.

00:04:51.800 I'll see you later.

00:04:52.420 Yeah, it's not like you're screaming already.

00:04:54.000 I'll come back when the cops come, and then he can arrest me, right?

00:04:56.380 Yeah, and the thing is, the cops, even, that's the whole issue that people talk about from

00:05:00.420 the left, right?

00:05:01.300 Like, I wrote this New York Times op-ed about that, and most of this New York Times audience

00:05:05.620 was saying, most of the response was like, well, why don't you just get a, you know,

00:05:09.160 a police officer?

00:05:10.200 When the week before, they were like, we hate cops.

00:05:12.720 I'm like, you guys got to choose one way or the other.

00:05:15.600 Um, but really, it's this, they might come in six to seven minutes, but a lot can happen

00:05:21.560 in six to seven minutes, and so, um, why don't we get to that point?

00:05:24.740 I'm going to refrain from making any jokes about that, because I think they'd be in poor

00:05:27.720 taste, but you make a very valid point.

00:05:29.800 But you just made an implied point.

00:05:30.660 I implied one.

00:05:31.560 That is true.

00:05:32.240 So it's too late.

00:05:32.600 That is, that is, it's both a joke and a reality.

00:05:35.720 Yeah, no, absolutely.

00:05:36.560 Everything that matters in that scenario is going to happen before the cops get there

00:05:40.740 nine times out of 10.

00:05:42.020 Absolutely.

00:05:42.580 And you wrote, that was a great New York Times piece.

00:05:44.480 Thank you.

00:05:44.660 And you wrote in it, this is a personal thing for you.

00:05:47.040 You grew up in a single mother household. 0.96

00:05:50.640 You, you had been assaulted.

00:05:52.840 You, this is, this isn't just some political philosophy conversation.

00:05:57.920 This is something that you can really speak about as a, as an individual.

00:06:01.700 Absolutely.

00:06:02.320 And also the fact that at that point, when I was making those decisions of, man, I,

00:06:06.560 I do want to fight for this issue because, you know, it is not even a political issue

00:06:11.060 because I dealt with it, but I was coming from the left at that point.

00:06:14.520 I was brand new.

00:06:15.740 I think, I don't even think at that time I made a decision that I realized, you know

00:06:19.220 what, I do have concerted values.

00:06:20.820 And that's why I realized I can strongly, you know, go to the point that it is not a

00:06:24.880 political issue.

00:06:25.680 It really is, um, maybe, yeah, American issue.

00:06:28.580 It's, it's a human rights issue.

00:06:30.140 It really is.

00:06:30.980 But particularly with women, um, and the differences that science has proven over and over again. 0.97

00:06:35.840 Um, but really when it's not even just about that, I mean, you're, you, I mean, you are

00:06:40.580 coming against someone who is a male or a woman who has a firearm.

00:06:44.680 That person's going to win, you know, regardless of how big you are, if you're a male or not.

00:06:48.720 I know.

00:06:49.080 I am very macho.

00:06:50.300 It is true.

00:06:50.960 I physically intimidate a lot of attackers.

00:06:54.000 That's one of the, at least one of those is true.

00:06:57.120 It adds to it.

00:06:58.660 So, um, but no, even despite all those great qualities, um, you know, it's, it's still best

00:07:04.880 for you at that point to have something that's going to be an equalizer.

00:07:07.920 Um, so I think that's important.

00:07:09.500 Do you think there's a racial component of this to, you know, specifically toward arming

00:07:14.400 young black women who are say disproportionately more likely to be assaulted?

00:07:18.520 Or do you, do you think there is a racial inequality on this issue?

00:07:21.760 I think, I mean, uh, the stats have been showing that black women and black women are the fastest

00:07:27.560 growing demographic, um, who are, who are becoming gun owners.

00:07:31.920 And so I think they are seeing that whether it's a political issue.

00:07:36.140 And that's a lot of people, they, they hate this fact that, you know, black women are now 0.83

00:07:39.520 becoming gun owners.

00:07:40.400 And so they twist it into, well, it's because the last, what happened the last year?

00:07:44.500 Oh, it's Trump, you know, racism.

00:07:46.140 And it's just been, it's just been, you know, just blown up and that's why we have guns now.

00:07:51.500 Yeah.

00:07:51.740 To protect against Trump.

00:07:53.160 Yeah.

00:07:53.420 That's the worry.

00:07:54.360 Against Trump and the racism that's, you know, just prevalent now just because of it.

00:07:58.220 No.

00:07:58.480 And I always, and they talk to me about that.

00:08:00.280 They'll interview me about that and be like, no, it's been happening the last few years

00:08:03.620 before we even knew about Trump.

00:08:05.220 So has nothing to do with that.

00:08:06.640 For me, I think it's also has to do with the rise of women in general, you know, a lot

00:08:11.680 more of us, you talk about feminism, a lot more of us are, you know, by our, by ourself 0.99

00:08:16.520 at home.

00:08:17.200 A lot of us are still pursuing education longer.

00:08:19.520 Maybe, you know, that transition from leaving a household where your father figure is there

00:08:23.680 and then having it where your spouse is there, there's a, there's a bigger gap there.

00:08:27.320 So a lot more women feel that they have to take safety into their own hands. 1.00

00:08:31.700 And I actually also think that's just an extension of, you know, if you want to bring the feminist 1.00

00:08:36.480 aspect of it, the feminist movement is an extension of that independence. 1.00

00:08:39.860 And so, um, black women especially are in these areas that tend to be, you know, statistically,

00:08:45.540 statistically, um, more dangerous and they're by themselves.

00:08:49.860 And so I hear all the time with other women with their daughters and they're like, I want 0.98

00:08:53.540 to buy this gun because I want to protect my daughter.

00:08:55.400 I want to know how to use it.

00:08:56.760 I want to protect myself.

00:08:57.740 So I think that's really what it's about.

00:08:59.340 That's the single woman aspect of it is so interesting because it's, if a woman is living 0.99

00:09:05.720 with her father, living with her husband or partner, whatever, live in boyfriend, there

00:09:11.060 is a physically, hopefully somewhat strong man there to give her backup.

00:09:15.600 But if she's living alone or living with young kids, there is a very thin line between her

00:09:21.560 and danger.

00:09:22.320 Absolutely.

00:09:23.040 Yeah, absolutely.

00:09:23.700 And it really doesn't have to be about race.

00:09:25.640 Um, I was on one America news network and I was debating this democratic strategist and

00:09:31.640 he was like, well, women don't need guns because I mean, you guys just need to advocate for 0.98

00:09:37.060 healthcare, better healthcare insurance and a rise in pay and a right to an abortion, of

00:09:42.800 course, even though the woman is not going to be alive at that point, but okay, right to

00:09:45.740 abortion.

00:09:46.180 And then also, um, you know, that you have better, you know, advantages in the, in the

00:09:52.680 workforce.

00:09:53.160 I'm like, how does that even, or a better access to education?

00:09:56.520 I'm like, okay, even I have all those things.

00:09:58.860 I have great healthcare.

00:10:00.080 I really do.

00:10:00.760 I have one, I have great healthcare and I, I'm college educated and grad school and I

00:10:06.500 still need a gun to protect myself.

00:10:09.500 Listen, attacker, I make an extra 24 cents on the dollar without controlling for education.

00:10:13.820 So back off, buddy.

00:10:15.600 Absolutely.

00:10:16.160 Absolutely.

00:10:16.860 I am, um, I'm empowered through, um, through healthcare benefits.

00:10:21.700 No, all those things are after the fact that you still need a firearm or whatever.

00:10:26.560 It doesn't have to be a firearm.

00:10:27.860 And that's what's like, we've empowered the organization that I started.

00:10:30.500 It's not just having a firearm that's going to be there for protection because first of

00:10:34.640 all, you know, you could be younger than 21, just not going to be able to have access to

00:10:38.120 that permit.

00:10:38.540 I mean, there's pepper spray.

00:10:40.340 It's, um, having a knife or whatever, whatever means you can use to be able to protect yourself.

00:10:45.080 But a lot of universities are even keeping like pepper spray from being an option.

00:10:50.160 You're kidding.

00:10:50.460 Massachusetts does not allow anybody to have pepper spray on our college.

00:10:54.540 Other than Antifa when they go and they protest Trump supporters.

00:10:58.260 You can bring all the pepper spray you want.

00:11:00.060 Exactly.

00:11:00.700 Exactly.

00:11:01.320 Then they're, they're totally okay.

00:11:02.720 I mean, they're kind of so, they're so thin. 0.71

00:11:04.300 I mean, they need something, but everybody else, everybody else is our white supremacist.

00:11:08.700 So they can't, they can't, uh, deal with pepper spray.

00:11:11.980 So, um, yeah.

00:11:12.840 Now you, so from what I can tell, your politics are slightly to the right of Attila the Hun

00:11:16.860 or Genghis Khan.

00:11:17.920 It was not always that way.

00:11:19.300 You voted for Barack Obama twice.

00:11:21.340 I have.

00:11:21.700 Yeah.

00:11:21.960 What happened?

00:11:23.280 I know.

00:11:23.760 To vote Hillary Clinton.

00:11:24.660 What happened?

00:11:25.240 Because everyone, it was really cool to vote for Obama.

00:11:28.860 There's so many people that I know.

00:11:30.000 I'm like, wow, you voted for Obama in 2008, but everyone did.

00:11:32.800 Yeah.

00:11:33.020 Especially if you're my age.

00:11:34.820 Um, but yeah, the second time is when people are like, wow, I don't know if I can trust

00:11:38.740 you.

00:11:39.320 Um, but I think it was really the economic issue.

00:11:42.180 It was the fiscal side of realizing that, first of all, Obamacare and how egregious that

00:11:47.420 was.

00:11:47.940 Destroy the economy.

00:11:49.400 Absolutely.

00:11:49.960 And back to my generation and, um, you know, I was studying public policy at the time.

00:11:54.540 Who knew like actual facts could change someone's mind?

00:11:58.380 Rarely it does.

00:11:59.420 Rarely.

00:11:59.800 Well, so, so, but yeah, basically that.

00:12:02.480 And then realizing also that, you know, all these policies, even if you just focus on

00:12:06.200 African-Americans, if you really are just focused on that, because that's right.

00:12:09.900 The reason why, you know, as a black woman, as a black person, a lot of us voted for Obama

00:12:14.600 because we were just like, well, this is our chance to do better.

00:12:17.780 First black president, historical election.

00:12:20.480 Absolutely.

00:12:21.000 And I believe all the hope and change that you talked about and then realizing that,

00:12:24.400 and not only did they not help the black community, if you're just looking at their poverty rates

00:12:29.940 were higher and welfare, you know, um, being dependent on the government was higher.

00:12:33.940 Like having food stamps as a staple of your, your legacy of that, have more food stamps than you have before.

00:12:40.560 It's not, it's not something I want to aspire to.

00:12:43.340 It's a little counterproductive.

00:12:44.820 Yeah, exactly.

00:12:45.500 And so this looking at that issue really made me realize that I wanted to change over,

00:12:50.240 at least on the economic side.

00:12:51.580 And then everything, Liberty really just changes everything else.

00:12:54.320 And, uh, the gun issue really helped too.

00:12:56.240 So you felt the social issues followed from the economic issues?

00:12:59.300 I think so.

00:13:00.220 Yeah.

00:13:00.420 A lot of it, but also, I mean, you, you talk about this, you know, coming from Italian,

00:13:04.460 you know, background and, you know, my family is very conservative and just values, right?

00:13:09.780 Even though they voted for Hillary and Bernie last time, um, they, I think a lot of people

00:13:15.200 in minority community, they really have these conservative values.

00:13:19.220 Um, but.

00:13:20.320 Because they see reality, right?

00:13:21.840 Yeah.

00:13:21.980 It's not, there, there isn't latte sipping on the yacht.

00:13:25.440 There isn't, you don't go to Al Gore's movie premieres and things like that.

00:13:29.300 Climate change is not the most important thing to these people.

00:13:32.120 I'm sorry.

00:13:32.720 That's why I'm just like, okay, with Bernie, I'm like, okay, that's nice.

00:13:35.440 But my mom is not talking about like, oh, but those poor polar bears.

00:13:39.240 But the panda bears.

00:13:39.860 But the panda bears and the polar bears.

00:13:41.320 By the way, there are more polar bears today than there have ever been in history.

00:13:44.980 Even on that, it drives me crazy.

00:13:47.000 But you're right.

00:13:47.620 Who, nobody is saying, ah, but in a hundred years, the temperature might be 0.2 centigrade higher.

00:13:54.300 And so, listen to screaming kids who I can't feed.

00:13:57.540 Calm down.

00:13:58.280 We need to talk about the polar bears.

00:13:59.900 Absolutely not.

00:14:00.700 I mean, my parents are from Nigeria too.

00:14:02.220 So even more so, they're like, unless you're talking about that for me to eat.

00:14:06.220 Yeah.

00:14:06.680 Um, I don't really care.

00:14:08.100 But I do care that, you know, I think I can't go to this other party or another party because

00:14:13.780 they, the media tells me that they're all racist and they're sexist and misogynist.

00:14:18.260 And that's what I think really gets them, unfortunately, is regards to the value system.

00:14:22.240 And that's the same thing I had too, is that, but media tells me that they're racist and

00:14:27.620 they hate me as a person.

00:14:29.200 So there's that social aspect.

00:14:30.500 It's that virtue signaling.

00:14:32.060 Yeah, absolutely.

00:14:33.260 I recently, you know, I recently had dinner with a friend of mine, friend of mine for 20 years.

00:14:36.780 So, you know, we went to middle school together, high school.

00:14:38.640 We sit down.

00:14:39.260 She said, do you really believe the things you put on Facebook?

00:14:41.900 I said, I don't even know what I put on Facebook, but presumably I do.

00:14:45.600 She said, what, so you're a racist now?

00:14:47.840 I said, what?

00:14:49.360 How did that find us?

00:14:50.160 I've had many black girlfriends.

00:14:51.600 Yeah, that's right.

00:14:52.640 Yeah.

00:14:52.820 Are you kidding me?

00:14:53.580 I got Antonio Okafor posters on my wall.

00:14:56.720 Oh, cut that out.

00:14:57.960 Yeah.

00:14:58.480 Cut that out before a sweet little Elisa sees it. 1.00

00:15:00.560 No, no, no.

00:15:01.300 So, so this is a person I've known for 20 years.

00:15:06.260 But there's this heavy virtue signaling, sick, oppressive culture surrounding conservative

00:15:13.740 politics.

00:15:14.560 How do we break that?

00:15:15.740 Well, the ironic thing about that too, is that when you hear what these people on the

00:15:19.580 left are saying, it, that's the real racism right there with the policies like, oh, you

00:15:24.640 can never, oh, um, one of these professors that got in trouble, I forgot one, one of those

00:15:29.460 elitist ones that, you know, um, and they got in trouble because they basically said that

00:15:34.560 there, you might have heard about it.

00:15:36.280 It basically said that having the best way to have a better life is kind of this middle

00:15:41.480 class, you know, culture and middle class behavior, like getting married and, you know,

00:15:46.480 having kids, you know, in wedlock and stuff like that.

00:15:48.940 And people got mad because they said that they were racist because a black person could 0.98

00:15:54.000 never aspire to that. 0.98

00:15:55.820 How could a black person do that? 1.00

00:15:57.000 No black person has ever gotten married and had a good life. 1.00

00:15:59.560 No. 0.94

00:16:00.340 That's impossible.

00:16:01.520 Exactly.

00:16:01.820 Exactly.

00:16:02.420 And then they stopped there.

00:16:03.380 Like, and I'm just looking at it like, does no one see how racist that is?

00:16:07.640 There is no difference between those guys and Richard Spencer.

00:16:10.080 There is no difference.

00:16:11.100 They are two sides of the same coin.

00:16:13.040 I absolutely agree, but then I'm going to be called a racist when I say stuff like that.

00:16:17.960 So I am now a white supremacist.

00:16:19.440 I don't know if the last time that you saw me, but now I am officially a white supremacist.

00:16:23.200 That's a bit, I always suspected it of you, Antonia, but that's, well, all right, let's

00:16:27.020 bring on some of those other supremacists. 0.77

00:16:28.900 They're at least deplorable. 0.84

00:16:30.380 We have to introduce our panel.

00:16:32.120 We have Zoe Rachel, his eminence, Paul Bois, and we're going to keep Antonia Okafor around 0.90

00:16:37.920 for the panel.

00:16:38.620 So let's get right into the news.

00:16:40.620 In the name of tolerance, Democrats are instituting religious tests against prospective judicial

00:16:47.940 nominees.

00:16:48.360 Here is Dianne Feinstein grilling an appeal court nominee, Amy Barrett.

00:16:55.860 When you read your speeches, the conclusion one draws is that the dogma lives loudly within

00:17:07.880 you, and that's of concern when you come to big issues that large numbers of people have

00:17:17.640 fought for for years in this country.

00:17:21.620 Was that even English?

00:17:22.920 I don't even know if what she just said was English.

00:17:25.000 Diane must have forgotten Article 6 of the Constitution, which reads, quote, 0.96

00:17:29.040 No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust

00:17:35.480 under the United States.

00:17:37.400 Other Democrats are doing it, too.

00:17:38.760 She is not alone here.

00:17:40.040 Dick Durbin, Senator Dick Durbin, asked Barrett if she considers herself a, quote,

00:17:44.040 Orthodox Catholic.

00:17:45.620 Bernie Sanders grilled the Office of Management and Budget nominee on whether he thought Jews

00:17:50.640 would go to heaven.

00:17:51.680 So we have to ask Paul Bois, do Jews go to heaven?

00:17:54.420 No, I'm kidding.

00:17:55.100 I'm going to ask you a different question.

00:17:56.300 The dogma lives loudly within you, your eminence.

00:17:59.940 What is up with the resurgence in anti-Catholicism from the government?

00:18:04.780 Well, we're definitely a long way from the days of people putting no Catholics allowed in

00:18:09.700 their storefronts.

00:18:10.880 I think we've definitely evolved into a full-blown anti-Christian sentiment.

00:18:16.860 But I think the main reason why Pelosi, I mean, Feinstein and Durbin are specifically

00:18:23.060 targeting her for Catholicism is because a faithful Catholic, which is what she is and

00:18:28.600 someone like Scalia is, are going to operate under the dictates of Thomas Aquinas, which

00:18:34.020 states that a government has to bow down to the laws of God.

00:18:39.120 So that means that that's going to inform their legalistic decision-making, which means

00:18:43.560 no same-sex marriage, no abortion, and no socialism.

00:18:47.520 So pretty much everything they stand for goes out the window.

00:18:51.700 I must say, every single thing that Paul Bois says sounds about as authoritative as it could

00:18:56.080 possibly be.

00:18:57.060 And for those of you who are not watching, you really ought to watch, because it appears

00:19:00.560 that Paul's coming to us from directly in front of the Vatican.

00:19:03.580 So great, John.

00:19:04.820 I didn't know you were traveling, Paul, but that's excellent.

00:19:07.480 So is there any legitimate concern that someone's religious views could make them unfit to hold

00:19:14.200 office in the United States?

00:19:15.280 Well, first up, is this Darth Feinstein?

00:19:20.580 The dogma flows strongly through you.

00:19:23.460 What the corn is that, man?

00:19:25.560 Anyway, listen.

00:19:28.080 You know, if you have, in our Constitution, you have the right to life, and it can't be

00:19:34.540 deprived of you without due process of law, and the rights that fall underneath that.

00:19:40.900 Here's the thing.

00:19:42.040 You can't adhere to any of those rights without some basis of faith.

00:19:47.160 Now, when we say due process of law, what law are we talking about?

00:19:51.620 Because you can't say that these are inherently qualifiable rights by a man, because another 0.97

00:19:58.260 man will have a different perspective on those laws.

00:20:00.960 That's why you have lynch mobs. 1.00

00:20:02.380 Lynch mobs that will go and say, no, this person is guilty. 1.00

00:20:05.340 No trial by jury. 0.96

00:20:06.480 We're going to lynch him right here without due process.

00:20:09.200 So you can't say that these are inherent qualified laws.

00:20:13.460 You have to apply faith to know that there is a law that says you cannot deprive a person

00:20:19.580 of their life, their later due process, without this law.

00:20:24.100 And once again, according to what law?

00:20:27.220 There has to be the faith that puts this on a foundation of a particular law that is beyond

00:20:34.120 the qualifications of man.

00:20:35.980 That is such—

00:20:36.980 Sorry, go ahead, Zoe.

00:20:39.280 I was saying, in short, you can't help but apply faith to this law, and it has to be a

00:20:43.380 particular faith that squares with this law.

00:20:46.380 That is such a good point, and nobody makes it.

00:20:49.020 Everybody talks past it.

00:20:50.520 But you're right.

00:20:51.020 There is a meta-law, there is a faith to even believe in the law, and people say all

00:20:56.980 the time, they say, well, we can't legislate morality.

00:20:59.900 But all we do is legislate morality.

00:21:02.200 Tax law is legislating morality.

00:21:04.340 Health care provisions are legislating morality.

00:21:06.420 We bring our views of the world and human nature and government to bear when we construct

00:21:11.900 laws for our society.

00:21:13.720 Everybody misses that.

00:21:15.740 Right, right.

00:21:16.240 And once again, what morality, though?

00:21:18.460 There's still—it still comes down to a faith of which morality is the most sound and most

00:21:23.800 conducive that upholds our inherent rights.

00:21:28.440 That can only be ended up by our treaty.

00:21:30.880 And that brings up another question about this, which is, Antonia, something tells me that a

00:21:37.700 Muslim nominee would not have been grilled in this way by the esteemed Senator Feinstein.

00:21:42.300 Is this religious test being applied selectively?

00:21:46.600 Oh, yeah, absolutely.

00:21:47.520 And that's—we see that with a lot of things, too, even with the feminists, right? 1.00

00:21:51.160 They'll attack all the Christians. 1.00

00:21:53.780 They'll say, oh, my gosh, you know, you're bringing back women decades and everything 1.00

00:21:57.940 like that.

00:21:58.420 But they will never talk about Muslim people and Islam, which is very, I would say, probably 1.00

00:22:05.180 very anti-feminist.

00:22:06.560 It's an understatement of the year.

00:22:10.800 It's like, okay, seriously, like, they get to pick and choose who they want to say is

00:22:18.660 going to be a part of their cause.

00:22:20.000 Like, you know, Linda Sarsour.

00:22:21.260 I mean, come on.

00:22:22.400 Of course.

00:22:22.840 I mean, she's the one who talked about jihad and stuff like that.

00:22:26.180 And then also, what is—what is it?

00:22:28.800 Sharia law, when she says that she actually wants, you know, that to be part of the law

00:22:32.880 of the U.S., of the land, and then the feminists are, you know, suddenly quiet about that. 0.99

00:22:38.280 I mean, that's what we're basically dealing with, where there's no actual principle here.

00:22:43.440 There's no, you know, logic or reasoning.

00:22:45.820 It's just oppression hierarchies.

00:22:47.280 Absolutely.

00:22:47.700 Well, we can move on to another esteemed religious reverend, Reverend Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:22:53.280 Politico is reporting that Hillary campaign alumni are dreading her forthcoming book tour,

00:22:59.040 with anonymous staffers reacting, quote, oh, God, quote, I can't handle it, and, quote,

00:23:05.620 the final torture.

00:23:06.980 Now, to date, Hillary has blamed her election loss on the FBI, James Comey, the Russians, 0.99

00:23:13.100 Vladimir Putin, anti-American forces, low-information voters, the optimism of her supporters, pollsters,

00:23:18.500 Barack Obama's re-election, Barack Obama himself, voters' desire for change, misogyny,

00:23:22.400 suburban women, the mainstream media, television executives, cable news, Netflix, misguided documentarians, 0.99

00:23:26.740 Facebook, Twitter, WikiLeaks, fake news, Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, and Macedonia.

00:23:32.200 That last one's kind of hard to figure out.

00:23:34.840 Antonia, what does Hillary help to accomplish by blaming everybody else under the sun? 1.00

00:23:41.320 Is this about her legacy?

00:23:43.320 Is this about protecting her family's reputation?

00:23:45.980 What is she doing?

00:23:47.800 Well, the ironic thing, though, is that if it's about protecting her family's reputation or herself,

00:23:53.620 it's actually making it worse.

00:23:55.120 I think, like, any reasonable person is just like, okay, ooh, come on, I mean, this is a little bad.

00:24:01.860 You're not a Kathy, you know, like, Griffin or whatever her name is, you know, the one with the redhead, 0.94

00:24:06.520 with, you know, basically coming back two days after that whole Trump thing.

00:24:10.360 I just called her whatever her name is, yeah.

00:24:11.900 Yeah, you know, D-list, A-list, or D-list, you know, actress or whatever.

00:24:16.800 It's, just own up to it.

00:24:18.520 It was your fault, and you have more respect, male or female, when you do that.

00:24:24.320 But she's not deciding to do that.

00:24:26.380 And I think it's going to hurt her cause and whatever her cause was, cause of making $100,000. 1.00

00:24:31.820 Yeah, whatever that's, I think that was the whole cause.

00:24:33.900 I think that's really what the cause was.

00:24:35.000 The Clintons were the cause. 0.99

00:24:36.140 And this brings up the loyalty question, Zoe.

00:24:39.060 The Democratic Party has been pretty good to the Clintons.

00:24:42.360 They have supported them for a long time.

00:24:45.160 Why is Hillary Clinton going on a 15-city attack the Democrats tour? 1.00

00:24:49.980 Isn't it a little ungrateful?

00:24:53.460 Ungrateful?

00:24:53.980 Yeah, yeah.

00:24:54.360 That's a good word, man.

00:24:55.240 You picked some good words, man.

00:24:57.080 Look, I have the best words, don't we, folks?

00:24:59.960 You know, you give good word, man.

00:25:02.260 You give good word.

00:25:02.840 Okay, that's just Democrats.

00:25:06.420 It's in their nature to throw people under the bus.

00:25:08.540 That's just what they do.

00:25:10.200 And Hillary's going to try to get, you know, she's going to throw them and try to terminate them the same way she got rid of them emails and got rid of that server. 1.00

00:25:18.040 And, you know, with Democrats, they have to separate themselves or somehow sanctify themselves in their own sanctimonious way for why it is that they're the losers that they are.

00:25:28.080 It's just like, you know, she said, is that own up to it. 0.95

00:25:33.040 Own up to what it is that you did.

00:25:34.460 Now, like I said, even when you got these drones out there trying to remove, like, these Confederate symbols, figures in history, the flag and stuff like that, they're trying to separate themselves from what is their fault.

00:25:48.940 And Hillary Clinton is following that model. 0.93

00:25:51.140 And she's trying to separate herself from what is her fault and trying to put it on somebody else.

00:25:58.180 Zoe, Rachel, typically pulling his punches, typically very calm.

00:26:02.480 And no, you're absolutely right, Zoe.

00:26:03.800 That is exactly it.

00:26:05.100 It's just passing the buck and running away the moment that there's trouble.

00:26:09.220 Paul, Paul Bois, the longer that Hillary Clinton remains the face of the Democratic Party, the better it is for us.

00:26:16.200 It's absolutely terrific.

00:26:17.760 President Trump's approval ratings are fairly low.

00:26:19.820 But I know of one person whose approval ratings are lower.

00:26:22.140 That would be Hillary Rodham Clinton. 1.00

00:26:24.320 According to an NBC poll that just came out, her approval ratings are 30 percent, the lowest that they have ever been.

00:26:30.380 And who are the Democrats going to put up to counteract the attacks of Hilldog?

00:26:37.240 Well, I think it's pretty much the case now.

00:26:39.600 Democrats are Trump's greatest ally.

00:26:42.840 And as they've gone knee-deep in this intersectionality narrative, they ran it for eight years with Barack Obama.

00:26:49.340 They tried it with Hillary Clinton.

00:26:51.240 It did not work out.

00:26:52.060 And I think they're just so wedded to it, they're going to have no choice but to run the intersectionality narrative again.

00:26:56.760 And the only person that they really have that kind of fits that bill is Kamala Harris. 1.00

00:27:01.260 So Elizabeth Warren is not going to.

00:27:04.480 Yeah, Elizabeth Warren's not going to do it. 1.00

00:27:05.700 But Kamala Harris is probably the one who they're going to run. 1.00

00:27:08.060 And as long as she's tweeting out tweets about how Trump can't pardon people who've been convicted of a crime,

00:27:13.640 then I don't think we have anything to worry about here.

00:27:16.940 But Liz Warren, I thought, was a Native American, which, as far as I can tell, is a more oppressed minority than Kamala Harris. 1.00

00:27:23.060 Antonia, did you say something?

00:27:24.480 Well, yeah, I just think it's funny because it's like, oh, well, a black person, Obama, and then Hillary Clinton's a woman.

00:27:32.980 And just put them together and then we're good.

00:27:36.420 That's how we actually went next time.

00:27:38.440 It has nothing to do with actual issues.

00:27:40.480 It's just continuing with the first of everything, a black woman, first president. 0.53

00:27:45.700 You know all that matters.

00:27:46.760 That's exactly what's important.

00:27:47.360 It's going to get really weird, like five or six candidates down the line when you start mashing different things together, two heads coming out.

00:27:54.260 Who knows?

00:27:55.300 President Trump tweeted out this morning.

00:27:57.940 For all of those DACA that are concerned about your status during the six-month period, you have nothing to worry about.

00:28:05.320 No action in that Trumpian exclamatory way.

00:28:09.000 Here is Nancy Pelosi gloating about it.

00:28:11.280 Some of the concerns that people have when they came out is, well, it said six months, and these people are being fearful that it said, pack up because you're out of here in six months, not, we have six months and we're going to pass a bill, so take comfort.

00:28:25.660 So that's why I said to him, when he called this morning, I said, thanks for calling.

00:28:31.060 This is what we need.

00:28:32.160 The people really need a reassurance from you, Mr. President, that the six-month period is not a period of roundup, but it's just that the DACA is frozen and that these people will not be vulnerable.

00:28:52.640 That is really hard to watch.

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00:29:42.620 Antonia, President Trump seems to be buddy-buddies with Nancy Pelosi today.

00:29:58.000 Is this the long-dreaded, long-awaited Trump pivot to the left?

00:30:02.440 No, it really isn't.

00:30:04.920 Oh, thank goodness.

00:30:05.860 All right.

00:30:06.340 All right.

00:30:06.880 Let that aside.

00:30:07.600 Everyone can just be, okay, it's a tweet.

00:30:11.100 It's Trump.

00:30:12.360 And you're just like, aw.

00:30:13.820 This is one of those like, aw, Trump, you're awesome.

00:30:18.080 But, so Congress.

00:30:19.740 So it's up to Congress really is what it's really about.

00:30:22.300 But it's, no, it's good.

00:30:24.060 You make a great observation, which is, it's just a tweet.

00:30:28.420 Every time we go crazy, we start ripping our hair out, we say this is the end of the Republican Party.

00:30:32.800 It's just some tweet, and then it moves on, and you tweet something else.

00:30:35.420 And it's not a big deal.

00:30:36.420 It doesn't destroy the country.

00:30:37.900 Well, I hope your optimism is proven correct.

00:30:40.540 Paul Bois, this is a tricky situation.

00:30:42.960 What is the best path forward for President Trump regarding these so-called dreamers?

00:30:48.840 It certainly is a tricky situation, Michael, and it's one I certainly struggle with as a Catholic.

00:30:54.320 And I certainly do have compassion for the dreamers and the kind of situation that they're in.

00:30:59.660 However, I do believe that DACA is not the way to solve it, especially with Obama just ramming it down our throats through executive order.

00:31:07.880 So what Congress needs to figure out here is how can we compassionately deal with the dreamers who are here under no fault of their own,

00:31:15.960 while simultaneously giving a strong deference to the law here.

00:31:19.460 And that's a difficult tightrope to walk.

00:31:22.640 So they're going to have a tough time doing it.

00:31:24.380 But I'm still up in the air about how to handle it.

00:31:28.700 I'll tell you, with that answer, I wish you were on the U.S. Council of Catholic Bishops,

00:31:32.400 because they keep making all of these awful political statements that seem to me not quite infallible.

00:31:38.260 So everybody thinks that these dreamers are a bunch of eight-year-old kids, but the dreamers are as old as 36 years old.

00:31:46.880 It is not they're not all four-year-olds.

00:31:49.020 Some of them are well into their adulthood, what would have been considered until recently middle age.

00:31:53.280 Why are Democrats so much better than Republicans at coming up with these emotionally manipulative euphemisms?

00:31:59.560 Man, that is a good question, and I pray that we get it answered.

00:32:06.980 But, you know, at the same time, I think we're asking these questions of, you know, of Trump and the House and the Senate and these other people.

00:32:15.140 The question I'm asking is, look, if America is this rotten country of these awful people,

00:32:21.340 why is it that y'all think that you can come here and improve your lives? 0.98

00:32:25.080 Why is it that you think that you can be a better person of coming to a country of awful, rotten, racist people? 0.98

00:32:30.640 Zoe, you've come up with it. 0.98

00:32:31.840 The new euphemism is nightmares.

00:32:34.100 That's what they are.

00:32:34.860 They're obviously dreaming of this horrible future and this racist wasteland.

00:32:41.940 Thank you.

00:32:42.500 And the thing is, all these things that you want from America, why aren't you yelling at your government to give it to you?

00:32:48.620 Your country is supposed to be this fabulous country under this, you know, this call that you want.

00:32:53.740 We got free health care and everything's supposed to be free education and free housing and all that sort of stuff.

00:32:58.000 How's that working out for you so well when you have to come here and impose it on us to give it to you?

00:33:03.120 Yell at your government.

00:33:04.040 Quit yelling at us.

00:33:05.660 Wake up from that dream.

00:33:06.980 Come back to reality.

00:33:08.860 A new law.

00:33:09.620 This is much happier news than DACA. 0.92

00:33:11.860 This is, I really want to end the show on a positive note.

00:33:14.600 A new law may free the nipple in Berkeley, California.

00:33:18.660 Progressive Councilman Chris Worthington explained, quote,

00:33:22.340 If a woman's nipples are fit to be seen by the most innocent and impressionable portion of the population, 0.91

00:33:27.740 I thought he was talking about me, but it is babies and toddlers,

00:33:30.320 then it stands to reason that nipples are not inherently sexual and are fit to be seen by the rest of the population if that woman so chooses.

00:33:40.680 Man, if that's progress, sign me up.

00:33:42.900 Do I have a choice?

00:33:44.640 You certainly don't get a choice.

00:33:46.060 And do not ask me how I feel about that.

00:33:48.240 As the only woman on this panel, I will not.

00:33:50.900 We're going to have a practical tutorial at the end of this segment. 0.62

00:33:54.900 Zoe, are nipples inherently sexual? 0.98

00:34:00.360 Why are you throwing the question to me first, man? 0.97

00:34:02.960 Okay.

00:34:05.120 I don't know if they're inherently sexual. 0.98

00:34:06.900 It depends on whose nipples they are. 1.00

00:34:08.260 Like, if they're bruised in skinner's nipples, then I wouldn't find anything sexually about it. 0.95

00:34:12.040 But look here.

00:34:12.880 This is before puberty when a kid is like a young, these young toddlers, when they see these things as food.

00:34:18.800 They haven't, like, gotten the hormones to start to process them as anything different.

00:34:23.580 So now, here's, you know, and biologically, listen, yes, they are inherently sexual because they're sexually specific.

00:34:31.540 You know, when you have these attributes that actually define a woman, defines her sex, then that actually makes them sexual. 0.51

00:34:38.780 That is by definition sexual.

00:34:41.380 Thank you.

00:34:42.020 You know, it's like, come on, man.

00:34:43.340 You know, why do we spend money on this stuff?

00:34:45.100 You know, it's like common sense.

00:34:46.580 So I always tell sweet little Elisa that my back hair is very sexy.

00:34:49.740 And she disagrees, but I'm going to bring Zoe Rachel's argument to her. 0.97

00:34:53.360 Paul, Paul Bois, if men can show their nipples, but women cannot show their nipples, then what do we do about transgender people? 0.99

00:35:00.360 If a man thinks he's a woman or is pretending to be a woman or dresses like a woman, can he show his nipples? 0.99

00:35:06.020 This seems to expose a great issue that the Berkeley City Council is finally solving. 0.98

00:35:12.300 Whoa.

00:35:13.100 Mind blown on that one, Michael.

00:35:15.480 Mind blown.

00:35:16.300 Paul Bois now woke. 1.00

00:35:17.380 Like, a man that identifies as a woman, can he show his nipple? 1.00

00:35:23.440 Wow. 1.00

00:35:23.920 I mean, I'm stumped there.

00:35:26.660 Yeah, 2,000 years of Catholic theology will not answer a word about that.

00:35:30.280 No, no, no.

00:35:31.600 Resurrect Thomas Aquinas for that one.

00:35:33.820 I'm lost. 0.95

00:35:35.180 I mean, I think if we're on the subject of defining terms, I mean, do we even have to call them nipples anymore? 0.94

00:35:40.600 I mean, can't we just call them, like, the little pointy round things on your chest? 0.91

00:35:44.400 I don't know.

00:35:45.600 The little pointy round things on their chest.

00:35:48.220 Always words of wisdom from Paul Bois.

00:35:49.880 This is our show now.

00:35:50.720 Well, Antonia, we do have to end this on you. 0.99

00:35:54.560 Oh, God.

00:35:54.880 I won't request the practical tutorial promised at the top, but is this evidence that feminism 0.54

00:36:00.720 was really invented by a man, a very clever man who decided that he would get easy sex 0.90

00:36:07.220 and get to look at nipples all day and not have to work that hard or pay for dinner? 0.57

00:36:11.540 And is this sort of feminism what we all mean by empowerment? 1.00

00:36:16.740 Oh, man.

00:36:17.440 You've got to put empowerment in there.

00:36:18.820 So I am currently reading The Feminine Mystique, so I guess I'm going to figure out what that

00:36:24.440 means afterwards.

00:36:25.680 After I read this book, I'm still 70 pages in, so I have, like, 400 left.

00:36:30.720 Yeah, go ahead.

00:36:31.140 So we'll see how that goes.

00:36:32.540 But, yeah, all I know is that if you want to know what real empowerment is, go to empower2a.org

00:36:38.300 and you can find out.

00:36:40.180 Does this mean we're going to finally get it?

00:36:41.660 Well, I don't know.

00:36:42.460 We'll see.

00:36:43.020 We'll see what we get when we get to the website.

00:36:45.340 Okay, panel, thank you so much.

00:36:47.040 It's always good to have you, especially Antonia, but also Zoe Rachel and his eminence Paul Bois.

00:36:51.260 Now it is time to go back to guns for the final thought.

00:36:55.680 The debates over gun control and the Second Amendment give off, like the freedom seed-spewing

00:37:04.080 boomsticks they center around, lots of loud noise and hot air.

00:37:08.060 Here's the argument for the Second Amendment.

00:37:10.180 It protects the freedom of people from tyranny.

00:37:13.540 There are endless statistics demonstrating the public hazards and benefits of gun ownership.

00:37:18.540 A homeowner protects his family.

00:37:20.020 A woman protects herself against an assailant.

00:37:22.440 A trained gun owner prevents a mass shooting or terrorist attack by killing the criminal

00:37:26.960 before he can kill the innocent people around him.

00:37:29.720 But the essential defense of the individual right to keep and bear arms that Americans have

00:37:34.420 cherished since 1789 is that it puts the government's money where its mouth is and offers a blunt defense

00:37:40.420 against those hypothetical but perfectly plausible oppressors who would pervert the meaning of laws

00:37:45.780 and language to enslave us. 0.94

00:37:47.060 Without the right to keep and bear arms, the people are ultimately powerless.

00:37:51.660 The Second Amendment is the constitutional provision that protects all of the others.

00:37:56.480 That's our whole show today.

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The Michael Knowles Show - September 07, 2017

Ep. 23 - Arming Snowflakes： Antonia Okafor on Campus Carry

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