Ep. 25 - All Politics Is Local. Or National. ft. Mayor Jesse Dwyer
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Summary
Is all politics local, or has the entertainment news industry made all politics national? We discuss with the Mayor of Greenwood Lake, New York, Jesse Dwyer, and the Daily Callers, Amber Athey and Amanda Prestigiacomo, join the panel of deplorables to talk Ted Cruz s porn preferences, uncontacted Amazon jungle tribes, and my cousin Hillary Clinton s latest tinfoil hat rantings at the launch of her terrible book.
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Is all politics local, or has the entertainment news industry made all politics national?
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We discuss with the mayor of the village of Greenwood Lake, New York, population 3,301, Jesse Dwyer.
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Then, the Daily Callers, Amber Athey, and the Daily Wire's Amanda Prestigiacomo join the panel of deplorables
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to talk Ted Cruz's porn preferences, uncontacted Amazon jungle tribes,
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and my cousin Hillary Clinton's latest tinfoil hat rantings at the launch of her terrible book,
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I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
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I couldn't even get it out of my mouth, my second cousin once removed Hillary's book.
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It's such an upsetting event that she's going to be going on this tour and showing her face,
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So anyway, today, we always talk about national politics.
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We never talk about politics on the ground, what it's really like for people who are going out there,
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pressing palms, going to spaghetti dinners, and what regular Americans in that little sliver of the country
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between L.A. and New York are thinking and what their lives are like and what they're talking about
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beyond just the latest Trump tweet and all of the reaction to it.
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So I would like to talk about local politics today.
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I want to talk about the real nitty-gritty because I think basically the problem with all political shows right now
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is that the reason that they, like sports predictors, very often get their predictions wrong
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is because they don't actually go out there and talk to voters, and so they miss that huge swath, that silent majority.
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Not us, because we press the palms, and we've got these great experts who are coming in.
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So, you know, I think former House Speaker Tip O'Neill really made the blanket statement on this
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Now, he's a Democrat, so he's probably wrong, and here is Newt Gingrich explaining why he's wrong.
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When in the Vietnam War, the draft was extended to college students,
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every college student in every congressional district in the country noticed it the same weekend.
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In the last month of the campaign, Rush Limbaugh will talk to a national audience.
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A national audience will read the Wall Street Journal editorial page or the New York Times editorial page.
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People will wake up and turn on the Today Show and Good Morning America and Fox and Friends and CBS Morning News,
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and they're going to get a national conversation.
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So if one party has a huge advantage in that national conversation,
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that party has big advantages in turnout and in winning.
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Now it is my distinct pleasure to bring on my friend of many years,
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and also partner of Red Pillar Political Consulting, Mr. Jesse Dwyer.
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It's funny you mention those spaghetti dinners,
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because I'm pretty sure you and I have at least attended about a thousand of them together, right?
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I should, for the people who are listening and watching,
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I should say Jesse and I have worked on about a hundred million campaigns together
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We have talked to a lot of voters on a lot of campaigns.
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A lot of those campaigns did not win because New York is left of Lenin.
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But, Jesse, that's why I wanted to bring you on.
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that is completely missing from political news shows.
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Is all politics local or is all politics national?
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You know, the national media, they're going to focus on national issues,
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and unfortunately it's turned into the WWF and increased ratings
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and trying to get everybody's attention and everything is really erratic
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and everybody's, you know, it's high stress levels,
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and they're getting ratings and they're getting viewers because of this high stress.
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So that's getting into local people's television,
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but that doesn't mean that local people in rural areas and middle-class areas
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It may grab their attention, but they're certainly not voting on it.
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It's not affecting their roads that are in front of their house.
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It's not affecting, you know, property disputes.
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And it's not affecting what I believe to be things that will drive middle-class people
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to the polls on both local as well as national issues.
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You know, it's, you've got two different things here.
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You've got the democratic machine in the inner cities,
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where it doesn't matter about national politics.
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which I would say is predominantly the Republican Party, right?
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That's where everybody else who voted for Trump outside of the major cities.
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They're more focused about school taxes, school issues,
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getting jobs and the things that matter most to them,
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and I would argue are more local issues than national issues.
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And the national news media and the big political shows,
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And it's probably for, I think, a lot of people in a lot of small towns,
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it's like the WWF also in that you can talk about it.
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You talk about it just like you watched a ball game
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or you watched a reality TV show or you watched some event.
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and they're both all about entertainment and hype.
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just trying to hype it up and get as much people,
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You know, you're alluring people to potential danger.
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But they literally will drag out any piece of energetic
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or stressful information out as long as they possibly can.
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But I certainly don't think it is what genuinely drives people to the polls
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On that point, I think we should point out Rush Limbaugh was absolutely right
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He predicted a week ago that Hurricane Irma was being hyped for ratings.
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When he was forced to evacuate, they raked him over the coals.
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And then it turns out he was absolutely 100% right.
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Now, Jesse, as a mayor, what are your priorities?
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You're a mayor of a local government, small town.
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I mean, those are the issues that my constituents care most about.
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And I know you're going to talk about Ted Cruz's little porn incident.
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You know, why aren't they focusing about Bob Menendez's trial?
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Some staffer tweeted this out because it's interesting.
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People in my community, they don't care about that stuff.
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They probably, half of them don't even know who he is.
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They care about the infrastructure in our community.
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You know, those are the issues they care about.
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When you hear someone like Donald Trump talking about those issues, talking about infrastructure
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and jobs, you know, that's, those are local issues that affect people locally.
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They're not talking about which bathroom you can use or which gender you think you are.
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They're talking about things that matter, jobs, the infrastructure.
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Those are inner city issues where the Democrats, I would argue, are, you know, focused on those
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things and they're following the Democratic agenda for the most part.
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And us out here in rural America and the middle class and the Republican Party, we care about
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the real things, you know, the jobs, what kind of a future our kids are going to have
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Thank you for validating a perspective I've had now for, I guess, six months or nine months,
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which is whenever Donald Trump tweets something, people lose their minds, their heads explode.
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They say, oh my gosh, it's going to get us into war.
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It's going to stop this legislation, yada, yada, yada, yada.
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And my reaction almost across the board is that I don't care other than the Covfefe tweet,
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which I really loved, but I just don't, who cares?
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I find it entertaining in so much as he affects conservative policy.
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But I think that the point that half of your constituents might not have even heard of
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Ted Cruz, I think that is true around the country.
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And it's so easy for us in political media to lose sight of the fact that I guarantee you
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nobody in your community and very few people in any other community have ever heard of Jim
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The only reason they heard of George Pataki is because he was the governor of their state.
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Do you think that plays into why political pundits on the national level are so often
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You know, I think, I think they're probably wrong is because they, they constantly have
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They constantly have to have the 10 day news cycle showing the, uh, this storm and they
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have to predict it because they have to be on TV.
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They have to be talking about it and they're doing that for everything.
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They're always making some sort of a guess and they're, they're sticking by it.
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Uh, and I think it's because they feel compelled to just constantly have some sort of a stressful,
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energetic, uh, uh, you know, component on the TV.
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Do you think pundits need to go press the flesh and go work on a few campaigns and eat
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Do you think that would help their predictions or do you think these crazy predictions are just
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They've, they, they understand that there are senior citizens literally sitting in front
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of Fox news, scared to death, that something is going to happen.
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And they feel that their success rating is going to go up if they can make that senior
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citizen constantly watch them, uh, or, you know, the, the tax paying citizen who can't
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pay their bills and they're just going to watch these things.
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I'm a 27 year old who just constantly watches these things too.
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I mean, most of the time I don't watch Fox news or CNN because it's constantly this,
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uh, aggravating, uh, loud music, stressful, you know, they're trying to get your attention.
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They're trying to make you believe that the problems are far worse than they really are.
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I have enough problems that we're dealing with in my community for me to not give a crap about
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what's going on in, uh, in Florida, quite frankly, you know, it doesn't matter to me.
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It's an interesting thing that I'd like to see every once in a while, but my priorities
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as a local mayor is ensuring that our, uh, our lake is clean, that our roads are swept,
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that our roads are, are properly paved and the neighbor disputes are handled properly.
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I have sympathy for the residents of Florida, but I don't need to hear about it for 10 days.
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That's what their local media should be focusing on.
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Uh, but I don't need, I don't need to see that up here in New York state.
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I understand that there are a lot of people who have houses in Florida, but you know,
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In my opinion, they feel compelled to drag out whatever news they get and elaborate on
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it as much as they possibly can, because that's what gets people interested.
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And Jesse, you'll forgive me, but I'm just writing down some of the advice you're giving
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Yeah, I don't, we're definitely going to scratch that one.
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So that, that everything you've said makes perfect sense.
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I've always assumed this to be the case, having been on the campaign trail with a number
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Now, going back to the national politics that we constantly have to talk about to scare senior
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If I watch Fox News or CNN or MSNBC, especially if I read the New York Times or Washington Post,
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I get the feeling that not a single person in this country supports President Trump, that
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What is your reaction on the ground talking to your constituents?
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Do you, do you think that they're, they support the president?
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Do you think it's mixed or everyone's against him?
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Well, it seems apparent that his personality is horrendous for the position.
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I mean, he's got this, this WWF personality that fits perfectly into hyping everything up.
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But if you look at his accomplishments, what he did before he became president, what he's
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doing as president, you can certainly see that he's very well qualified for the position.
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He was put into a very complicated situation coming in with a Congress who, I think, almost
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So he wasn't really able to accomplish much with their support, but we'll obviously take
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that up with our local congressman when it comes for that election.
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But, you know, listen, I think Donald Trump's doing a great job as president.
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And even though he's getting criticized left and right about shoes and hats and all these
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other ridiculous things, he did a very good job.
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You can hear that from all of the elected officials in both Texas and Florida.
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And I think he's going to do a great job considering the circumstances that he's in.
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And I'm certainly looking forward to seeing some of the progress that he makes with our
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Well, you know, what you have just said is something, it is exactly the opposite of what
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every smart, elite political pundit is saying, with the exception of Ann Coulter.
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Ann Coulter made the same point, which is, I think, the common view right now is that
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President Trump is effective and was elected because of his personality, because he's mean,
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he's a bully, he takes the fight to the Democrats.
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People don't really care about what he'll affect.
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All they care about is that fun, mean, angry personality.
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And what you've said and what a lot of people that I've talked to in local politics have said,
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and also Ann Coulter, is it's exactly the opposite.
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He was elected despite his personality because his issues were so popular.
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Putting America first on manufacturing, as he says, or renegotiating certain trade deals,
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or just turning the whole focus onto jobs and deregulation and constitutional originalism.
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And all of the other stuff is just a circus to surround what people really care about.
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Well, the Democrats and other sore losers who didn't vote for him and didn't support him
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and who are bitter, they're never going to like him.
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But if you look at middle-class America and people like me, people like you,
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you had Dr. Hayworth on yesterday, we're giving him a chance because he is our president.
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And the future of our country depends on his success.
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Whether you agree or disagree, you have to support our president.
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He's not getting much help with certain state leaders.
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But at the end of the day, we need to support him.
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And I'm certainly optimistic because I did vote for him.
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You're a veteran of it compared to the president.
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Do you have any advice for the guy on how to make better deals with Congress
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So I had a professor in college who became a friend of mine and a mentor.
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And he gave me this advice when I first got into politics.
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He said, local politics, contrary to congressional politics and national politics,
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So it is vastly different what I have to do than what, say, the president
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or a congressperson or an assemblyman has to do in that I work and live
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You know, I'm here every day working with them.
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I will pass someone on the street and they'll either give me a high five
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But, you know, advice that I could give to the president is very difficult
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because his position that he's in now is vastly different than business.
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It's vastly different than his experience that he had.
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He's uniquely qualified in that no one could essentially assume the office
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of the presidency and have all of the tools necessary to be prepared.
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But I would say that, you know, he is prepared with all the business skills
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far more than I was to become mayor, although I run a business myself.
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And I think if he were a different man who had a different background
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and didn't say crazy things before he was elected,
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he would have had a little bit more assistance in accomplishing things
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It's hard to tell how much of the personality helps him,
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One good bit of advice that he gave to himself, of course,
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is despite the constant negative press, covfefe.
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We need to bring on, Jesse, will you stick around for our panel?
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We've got to bring on the panel of deplorables.
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and we have Amanda Presto Giacomo from The Daily Wire.
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And listen, we've just been two schlubs talking the whole time.
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Now we have these ladies who are coming on the panel.
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Ted Cruz broke the internet this morning when someone screenshotted an apparent like from
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his Twitter account that suggested Senator Cruz had been interacting with smut.
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Now, it is a great story, but was it Cruz or was it just some staffer?
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I would almost have to bet that it was just a staffer, as you all know.
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But as you all know, most of these Twitter accounts of senators and representatives are
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almost entirely run by either comms directors or lower level staffers that sort of take care
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I'm sure that the Cruz Twitter account doesn't follow any porn sites.
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So my guess is that maybe they were on some kind of tweet deck or they were searching for
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some kind of hashtag and their finger accidentally brushed a like button.
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So you don't think that it was some staffer who was up to no good in the halls of one of
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As fun as that story would be, I really don't think that's the case.
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I think this is a whole lot to do about nothing.
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Amanda, can you please bring back some smut after that real letdown?
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Do you think it makes any sense whatsoever that Senator Cruz was perusing pornography and
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I wouldn't put it past this family to do something like that.
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Relatively, the porn is pretty innocent compared to murdering a president.
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So again, we can't put anything past this, past the Cruz family.
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I mean, these things are not actually run by these senators.
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Or I mean, if you remember Hillary Clinton's, like her email and her Twitter, it was all like
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It was not Ted Cruz, unfortunately, because that would be a great story.
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Let's assume that Ted Cruz was looking at some naked ladies on his computer.
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Is there any, certainly it's a scintillating story, but is there any implication for him as
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There's one thing I would disagree with first, and that's that I'm pretty confident that
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Trump's Twitter handle, with all the grammatical errors, is certainly run by himself.
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Michael and I know firsthand, these congressmen and senators, they have sometimes a dozen people,
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if not more, running their Twitter handles than Facebook.
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I remember when he tweeted out my book, Reasons to Vote for Democrats, people asked what was
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the strategy, who did he have to do it, and he just did it when I was on Fox and Friends.
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I was on Fox and Friends, I said something nice about him, and he immediately tweeted it.
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There was no meeting about this, so good on him.
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I love that he's running his own, and we haven't seen any porn on there.
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Look at all these senators and all these congressmen.
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They're all doing crazy things, and I don't think that something that minor would have really
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I don't think he has really a tough time getting reelected in the state of Texas.
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But to be honest with you, I mean, it's just not that big of a deal in this day and age.
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Are you suggesting that many people look at internet pornography, that it's a many billions
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But I think, again, I mean, there's so many issues.
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If you look at all these congressmen and all these senators across the entire country,
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Bob Menendez is literally under trial right now for federal bribery, and I'm sure he's going
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to be fine, unless he gets convicted, in which case he would probably have to resign.
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But during that entire process, he'd probably get reelected.
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You know, it's like these people, they just—and that's another point, to bring it back home.
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People don't care about Ted Cruz's little, you know, click on a possible porn site, which
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And people aren't right now caring too much about Bob Menendez.
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They're worrying about local issues, their school taxes, and what really affects them
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Everybody hates Congress, but they love their congressmen.
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Moving on from civilization into the jungles of Brazil, the New York Times is reporting
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that uncontacted tribesmen have been killed in the jungles of Brazil.
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This is the second attack on the uncontacted tribes this year in Brazil, which government
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So, Amanda, there's this great documentary on Netflix.
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Coincidentally, I just watched it a couple days ago.
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It's a new documentary on there, and it's called First Contact, Lost Tribe of the Amazon.
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So one of these guys, he's just come out of the jungle, and he describes a jaguar eating
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He describes going days at a time, four days at a time, without eating so much as a bite
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So the first question that comes into my mind is, why haven't we brought these uncontacted,
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What is it that's keeping us from bringing them into the nice luxury and glories of the
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I think this is like a good example of this fear that people have of being labeled like
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And I think this is like a prime example of that, is that everything is equal.
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And this is that example where people are just so scared to show actual civilization.
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You don't have to live like a barbarian, but you can't do that.
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It's this romantic Western idea that there's the noble savage who hasn't been tainted or
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corrupted by our civilization, which is so awful.
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If only we could go back and live in the trees and nature.
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They have low life expectancies in so much as we can measure how long they live.
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Very many of these tribes, particularly in the Amazon, can't count above 10.
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So the tribes who have come out that we've contacted have almost universally said they
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They like having pots and pans and food to eat regularly.
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So what does it say about us that we think that the jungle tribesmen have it better than
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us who have electricity and our problem is that we're too fat, not too skinny?
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Well, I think it's sort of this more relativist thing that Amanda was talking about where I
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find this is really an issue with liberals where they sort of fetishize these tribes and
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they view them more as almost endangered species than they do actual human beings.
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And I'm sorry to interrupt, but great use of the word fetish right after we were talking
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Yeah, but I think if we actually are viewing these people as human beings with actual human
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rights, then we would recognize that on the whole, it's better for these people to be
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And there's a reason why we ask immigrants, for example, to assimilate to our culture.
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It's because if you don't, you start to see these blatant violations of human rights.
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You'll notice that, for example, female genital mutilation has been on the rise in the United
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And so this isn't all just people being imperialist and being racist.
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There's a really good reason why we ask people to assimilate to a certain kind of culture and
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And it is so dehumanizing, you're right, to say, well, those people, look how cute they
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We need to preserve them so that we can go and watch them.
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In these isolated areas, villagers often report that the tribesmen will raid their villages,
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they'll steal their things, they'll kill some of them, they'll attack the local villagers.
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But the villagers are not allowed to respond in kind because the uncontacted tribes are totally
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So how should the, in these totally far-flung areas, how should these disputes be resolved?
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I personally believe that we shouldn't have much of an involvement in it.
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I don't think that we have a right or an obligation to get involved in any situation that's over
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Other than any sort of a business interest that our nation may have in that area, which
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But I happen to believe in an anti-imperialistic view, and I don't think that we should be
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involved in a lot of other conflicts in the Eastern context.
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Do you think the local governments should go in and try to mediate this or bring the tribes
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out of isolation or basically, say, laissez-faire, live and let live, you know, just don't do
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Yeah, I think there are a lot of variables that we just don't understand or comprehend
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You know, I would say more than likely, yes, it should be up to the local government to determine
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It's just like we would handle certain situations like that here in America.
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I would say that we over here, we shouldn't have anything to do with it.
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It should be left off to the local governments of Brazil or wherever this was found.
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And I don't think that we have enough information from where we're sitting or enough perspective
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You know, it's great to bring people into a civilized world, but that's what we define
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Just because their life expectancy isn't as high as what standards might, you know, we
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might expect them to be, that doesn't mean that that's the life they want to live.
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And although some have come out and said that they wouldn't want to go back to living that
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way, who's to decide that that's the way that they should live?
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That is the most laissez-faire, you isolationist Republican.
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But you bring up the point of these villages and this local government.
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And speaking of it taking a village, my second cousin twice removed, Hillary Clinton, now
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says she is convinced that Donald Trump's campaign colluded with Russia to defeat her on the release
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day of her new book, presumably a terrible book, What Happened?
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Amber, what do we even mean by collusion at this point?
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Basically, what it means is that members of the Trump administration allegedly were in
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some kind of contact with the Russian government to sway the election against Hillary Clinton.
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But let's be honest, this is just another blame game from Hillary.
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She's blamed everything from Bernie Sanders to sexism to white nationalists.
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Of course, it's very convenient for her to say that she is convinced that Trump has colluded
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It's just another part of her blame game narrative.
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Jesse, Hillary's approval rating is lower than Donald Trump's.
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According to an NBC News poll recently, it's at 30 percent, the lowest ever recorded for
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Is she trying to rehab her image with this book tour?
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Well, unfortunately, you know, I hate to say it, but I'm pretty sure she's too old to really
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But what I do think she's trying to do is salvage.
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I'm praying that she does nothing further with her political career.
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But I do think she's trying to salvage the Democrats and try to really put more of the
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And again, she falls in the class of sore losers.
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I would also say who cares if the people in the Trump administration or Trump team campaign
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team did work with Russians to get information which proved that Hillary Clinton was a slimy
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borderline criminal and just brought it out to the American people.
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Yeah, they never talk about what's in the allegations.
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They just talk about or what's in the documents.
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But, you know, this does not shine a very nice light on Hillary Clinton.
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It's all been acknowledged that it wasn't illegal, even if they do find that they were
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colluding, that some people from the campaign were colluding with Russia or attorneys or
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But again, they literally just proved that Hillary Clinton was not fit to serve as our
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And the fact that she made it so far is horrendous.
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And, you know, I don't think that they did anything wrong if they did.
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We've used really sleek tactics to try to get information on our opponents when we work
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And I think that the ends justify the means in this case, as long as the means were not
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And as long as the ends is getting Hillary Clinton as far away from the Oval Office as
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Amanda, the book is currently number one on Amazon, though it's only been a few hours.
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What sort of person is ever going to buy this drivel?
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They're just going to put it on their bookshelves and virtue signal.
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I think maybe it's like a lot of conservative journalists buying it up right now.
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And they're just like reading it and reporting on the hysteria.
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I would love for Hillary to stay in politics as long as possible.
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So I think it's right now there's an onslaught of conservatives buying the book and just
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laughing at her and promoting the heck out of it.
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And also, I would like to bet that there's like a stack of these books in Hillary's,
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Bubba has to step over them on his way to the humidor.
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Political analysts are like sports commentators.
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They only focus on the major leagues and they keep showing up to work no matter how many
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Most talking heads have never passed out palm cards to commuters at a train station or sat
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through a summer of spaghetti dinners at the VFW hall.
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Instead, they attend cocktail parties with their fellow political, media, and donor class
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They've read all of the philosophic and social scientific literature.
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They've crunched the numbers and they devour every myopic op-ed penned by people who have
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even less perspective on the voting populace than they themselves.
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Politics comprises particular goals affected through particular people caused by particular
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There is a significant, a substantial group of voters that cannot be reached by opinion