The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 258 - Did Trump Collude With The Russians？

00:00:00.000 The Guardian has published a bombshell report that former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort met personally with the founder of WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, at the Ecuadorian embassy in London.

00:00:12.400 WikiLeaks is refuting this story in the strongest possible terms.

00:00:16.260 They're saying that they're willing to bet $1 million and Julian Assange's head that Manafort and Assange never met.

00:00:23.180 The trouble is, in this situation, there are a lot of liars saying a lot of things.

00:00:27.080 We will try to untangle whether or not Donald Trump colluded with the Russians.

00:00:31.960 Then, the good news, good news, is that a Virginia high school has made students recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

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00:00:52.540 I'm Michael Knowles and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:57.080 This is the most complicated news day that we have had in weeks.

00:01:06.620 There is breaking news.

00:01:08.260 For the first time, the Mueller investigation might become somewhat relevant with these charges

00:01:12.960 that the Trump campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, met with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.

00:01:18.740 You'll remember WikiLeaks is the group that released all of the Hillary emails, the DNC emails.

00:01:24.280 This could be huge or it's a total lie.

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00:03:10.920 Okay, let's dig into the toughest news day of the last few months.

00:03:15.060 Very, very complicated story.

00:03:17.120 We're going to boil it down and tell you everything you need to know.

00:03:20.480 Right now, Bob Mueller is going after Paul Manafort.

00:03:24.940 Paul Manafort, you'll remember, got a plea deal with the special counsel, Bob Mueller.

00:03:29.160 Mueller is right now saying that deal is null and void, that Manafort lied to the special counsel,

00:03:34.840 that his guilty plea is going to remain, but that he is not getting any special protections.

00:03:40.440 Right now, President Trump is going after Mueller and the Mueller investigation.

00:03:44.420 WikiLeaks is making million-dollar bets.

00:03:46.700 What do we know so far about Paul Manafort?

00:03:49.120 Paul Manafort right now is rotting away in prison in solitary confinement in Alexandria, Virginia.

00:03:56.100 Paul Manafort, he's been a lobbyist for a long time.

00:03:58.420 He's worked for major Republican politicians on major campaigns.

00:04:02.600 He, you know, did some dodgy dealings, as lobbyists are wont to do,

00:04:06.880 and he, for a short period of time, ran the Trump campaign right around the Republican nominating convention

00:04:14.280 because he was really good at whipping those delegates.

00:04:17.460 Paul Manafort, for that crime, and, you know, obviously other charges,

00:04:21.560 but basically, practically, for that crime, is now rotting away in solitary confinement in prison.

00:04:28.520 He, aren't we all safer now?

00:04:30.540 Aren't we all safer that Paul Manafort is off the streets?

00:04:33.360 We were talking about criminal justice reform, how we need to get people out of prisons.

00:04:36.760 They've locked up a guy, basically, for helping Donald Trump.

00:04:39.540 Bob Mueller right now, the special counsel, is saying that in his plea deal,

00:04:44.660 Paul Manafort lied and breached the deal that he signed two months ago.

00:04:49.560 Paul Manafort denies this in the strongest terms.

00:04:52.560 He says he did not lie to the special counsel.

00:04:54.580 What this means is that all of those promises that the special counsel made to Paul Manafort,

00:05:00.280 that he could avoid certain prison time for certain crimes,

00:05:03.980 he could avoid going to jail for certain crimes, that's gone.

00:05:06.700 That is off the table now.

00:05:08.600 But the way a plea deal works is you say,

00:05:11.480 I'm going to plead guilty to certain crimes, and you're going to give me lenient treatment.

00:05:15.180 The trouble now is he's not going to receive any lenient treatment,

00:05:18.640 but he can't withdraw his guilty plea.

00:05:20.340 So he's already on the hook for those crimes.

00:05:24.660 He faces 10 years in prison currently,

00:05:27.420 and who knows, with the addition of other charges,

00:05:29.840 how much longer he's going to be in prison.

00:05:32.160 What was the lie about?

00:05:34.460 So what it seems to be, we're only getting little bits and pieces of this,

00:05:37.840 is from this Guardian story.

00:05:39.980 The Guardian ran it, and they are alleging

00:05:42.000 that Paul Manafort met with Julian Assange,

00:05:45.480 the head of WikiLeaks,

00:05:46.980 multiple times over the years,

00:05:48.800 starting in 2013, again in 2015,

00:05:51.880 and then most importantly, in 2016,

00:05:55.020 just before, or right around the time of,

00:05:57.720 the release of those Democrat emails

00:06:00.060 that had been hacked, that WikiLeaks sent out,

00:06:04.140 which certainly changed the tenor of the presidential election.

00:06:07.900 I don't know that Hillary would have lost, 0.89

00:06:10.500 or rather that Hillary would have won 1.00

00:06:12.040 if these emails hadn't been released.

00:06:13.580 I'm not sure about that.

00:06:14.600 Hillary's a terrible candidate. 1.00

00:06:16.020 Trump ran a unique campaign.

00:06:17.780 He's a unique American figure,

00:06:19.380 but that's what the Democrats blame it all on.

00:06:21.880 So the Guardian ran with this story,

00:06:24.980 and all these parties that are involved,

00:06:28.880 Paul Manafort and WikiLeaks, are denying it.

00:06:31.140 Now, who knows?

00:06:31.880 Paul Manafort's a lobbyist.

00:06:33.020 Could he be a liar?

00:06:33.900 Sure.

00:06:34.860 Julian Assange is an anti-American spy,

00:06:38.840 though he did help us out with that Hillary Clinton election.

00:06:41.300 Could he be lying?

00:06:42.740 Yeah, of course he could.

00:06:44.300 But who are the sources on the Guardian story?

00:06:48.600 They're anonymous.

00:06:49.880 They're anonymous.

00:06:50.640 Manafort's calling them 100% false,

00:06:52.780 and WikiLeaks is going really hard after this.

00:06:55.400 They say that they will bet $1 million,

00:06:58.880 and Julian Assange's head,

00:07:01.820 that Paul Manafort and Julian Assange never met.

00:07:05.960 So where would they have met?

00:07:07.120 Julian Assange has been seeking,

00:07:09.040 he's had asylum, basically,

00:07:11.240 in the Ecuadorian embassy in London.

00:07:13.700 He's wanted by many governments,

00:07:15.520 including the United States,

00:07:16.900 for stealing their materials

00:07:18.360 and releasing classified documents.

00:07:20.500 So he's been holed up

00:07:22.500 in the Ecuadorian embassy in London now for years,

00:07:26.100 and apparently these meetings

00:07:28.880 happened in the Ecuadorian embassy.

00:07:31.800 This raises a few questions.

00:07:34.200 One, why would he have met

00:07:37.360 with Julian Assange?

00:07:38.960 Well, he could have met

00:07:39.880 when he was helping out

00:07:41.140 Viktor Yanukovych,

00:07:42.580 who was the pro-Russian head of Ukraine

00:07:46.020 when he was lobbying for him.

00:07:47.580 I suppose he could have done that.

00:07:49.160 WikiLeaks has a tight relationship with Russia.

00:07:51.820 Why would he have met with him

00:07:53.140 when he's just about

00:07:55.260 to take the helm of the Trump campaign?

00:07:56.940 Obviously, the Democrats are saying

00:07:58.400 he met with him

00:07:59.180 to ensure the release of these emails,

00:08:01.240 to collude with the Russians, 0.66

00:08:02.580 whatever you want to say.

00:08:03.520 My question is,

00:08:06.120 why are we only learning about this now?

00:08:08.380 Why are we only learning now,

00:08:09.580 in 2018, almost 2019,

00:08:12.440 that the head of the Trump campaign,

00:08:15.140 around the time that he was named

00:08:16.340 the head of the Trump campaign,

00:08:17.980 walked into the Ecuadorian embassy in London,

00:08:21.000 one of the most highly surveilled places

00:08:23.280 in the entire world,

00:08:24.540 because everyone wants to make sure

00:08:26.160 that Julian Assange doesn't make a break for it.

00:08:28.540 They've got all these eyeballs on this embassy,

00:08:30.540 and he just walks in,

00:08:32.760 and there's no record of Paul Manafort

00:08:34.440 ever even being there.

00:08:36.340 Paul Manafort is not a low-profile guy.

00:08:38.400 It's not like Donald Trump

00:08:39.440 dug him out of obscurity.

00:08:40.880 Paul Manafort has been

00:08:41.780 a major Republican operative for decades,

00:08:44.360 since the 80s at least,

00:08:46.160 and maybe the 70s.

00:08:47.520 So what are the odds

00:08:49.560 that he just walks into the embassy,

00:08:51.380 and there's no record of it?

00:08:52.960 The Ecuadorian embassy

00:08:55.420 has no formal record

00:08:57.140 of Paul Manafort ever having been there.

00:09:00.220 Okay, now I suppose I could understand

00:09:04.160 that a guy with the political pull

00:09:06.060 of Paul Manafort

00:09:07.480 and an embassy that would house Julian Assange

00:09:10.520 maybe might be a little lax

00:09:12.080 with their record-keeping,

00:09:13.080 might be willing to hide certain things,

00:09:14.960 but how could this not leak?

00:09:17.660 How would we not know about this

00:09:19.640 until just now?

00:09:20.540 It seems a little dodgy.

00:09:22.560 I'm just a little bit skeptical of it,

00:09:24.320 and it's not just because

00:09:25.360 I want to defend Paul Manafort

00:09:26.680 or that I want to defend Donald Trump.

00:09:28.540 It's just the timing is a little weird,

00:09:30.980 and the facts are a little dodgy.

00:09:32.940 They won't give us the sources,

00:09:34.180 and the Guardian is already

00:09:35.700 backing off the story.

00:09:37.500 This is the part

00:09:38.260 that really makes me question it.

00:09:39.720 So they put it up

00:09:40.560 on their website this morning,

00:09:41.820 and then one hour later,

00:09:43.700 they start to back off of it.

00:09:46.200 So the initial headline

00:09:47.480 on the Guardian was,

00:09:48.440 Manafort held secret talks

00:09:50.500 with Assange in Ecuadorian embassy.

00:09:52.540 The new headline,

00:09:53.360 an hour later,

00:09:53.980 an hour and ten minutes later,

00:09:55.460 Manafort held secret talks

00:09:56.820 with Assange in Ecuadorian embassy,

00:09:59.020 sources say.

00:10:00.500 Okay.

00:10:01.320 Now, John Nolte,

00:10:02.260 our former colleague

00:10:02.980 at the Daily Wire,

00:10:03.940 great writer,

00:10:05.000 his Twitter name is

00:10:06.640 sources say,

00:10:08.040 is Greek for fake news,

00:10:09.580 because they always do that.

00:10:10.640 The New York Times does the CNN,

00:10:11.980 they say sources say,

00:10:13.440 and then they spout off

00:10:14.640 whatever political nonsense

00:10:16.060 is advantageous to their side.

00:10:17.760 So that's one major change.

00:10:19.780 Another change is,

00:10:20.920 the initial article read,

00:10:22.180 quote,

00:10:22.720 it is unclear why Manafort

00:10:24.060 wanted to see Assange

00:10:25.220 and what was discussed.

00:10:26.940 The new version reads,

00:10:28.560 it is unclear why Manafort

00:10:30.260 would have wanted to see Assange

00:10:32.860 and what was discussed.

00:10:34.680 You see,

00:10:35.080 there was a switch

00:10:35.680 into the conditional.

00:10:37.100 Initially,

00:10:37.580 they were using

00:10:38.000 very plain language.

00:10:39.480 The new version

00:10:40.220 goes into the conditional.

00:10:41.360 Hypothetically,

00:10:42.020 if he would have done this,

00:10:43.280 why would he have done that?

00:10:44.520 So the original says,

00:10:45.800 but the last meaning

00:10:46.900 is likely to come

00:10:47.700 under scrutiny

00:10:48.360 and could interest

00:10:49.400 Robert Mueller,

00:10:50.240 the special prosecutor.

00:10:52.060 The new version.

00:10:53.360 But the last apparent meeting

00:10:55.360 is likely to come

00:10:56.800 under scrutiny.

00:10:57.500 Now,

00:10:57.680 why are they doing this?

00:10:58.600 The Guardian is doing this

00:10:59.700 to save their rear ends

00:11:01.520 because now you've got

00:11:03.060 Paul Manafort

00:11:04.060 going after them,

00:11:04.820 you've got Julian Assange

00:11:06.040 going after them.

00:11:07.160 They're all saying

00:11:08.020 this is 100% fake news.

00:11:10.740 And it actually

00:11:11.540 goes on and on.

00:11:13.300 In the original version

00:11:14.620 of the article,

00:11:15.220 they say,

00:11:15.540 according to two sources,

00:11:16.980 Manafort returned

00:11:17.600 to the embassy

00:11:18.080 in 2015.

00:11:19.600 Now,

00:11:20.100 in the new version,

00:11:20.700 it says,

00:11:21.020 according to the sources,

00:11:23.200 Manafort returned

00:11:24.020 to the embassy

00:11:24.740 in 2015.

00:11:26.200 To the sources.

00:11:27.800 Well,

00:11:28.700 why is the change?

00:11:29.980 Are there now

00:11:30.460 new sources in there?

00:11:32.100 Are there fewer sources?

00:11:33.320 Are the sources

00:11:33.760 a little dodgier?

00:11:34.780 I don't know.

00:11:36.640 Initially,

00:11:37.480 the article read,

00:11:38.620 why Manafort

00:11:39.320 sought out Assange

00:11:40.460 in 2013

00:11:41.040 is unclear.

00:11:41.940 Now,

00:11:42.140 it says why Manafort

00:11:43.080 might have sought out

00:11:44.600 Assange in 2013

00:11:46.060 is unclear.

00:11:47.140 Now,

00:11:47.320 all of this,

00:11:47.860 this might,

00:11:48.620 this would,

00:11:49.360 this could,

00:11:50.280 this should.

00:11:51.140 It sounds more like

00:11:52.260 they're writing

00:11:52.760 a hypothetical fiction now

00:11:54.420 than that they're writing

00:11:55.540 a reality.

00:11:56.580 You know,

00:11:56.860 if I had some ham,

00:11:58.000 I could make a ham sandwich

00:11:59.160 if I had some bread.

00:12:00.380 It doesn't matter

00:12:01.140 how many hypotheticals

00:12:02.580 we have.

00:12:02.920 What are the facts?

00:12:04.380 The Guardian knew

00:12:05.420 this was an explosive story.

00:12:06.920 They should have gotten

00:12:07.960 their facts

00:12:08.600 dead right,

00:12:10.720 dot their T's

00:12:12.560 and cross their I's

00:12:13.600 before they publish this.

00:12:15.460 If they're backing

00:12:16.160 off of this now,

00:12:17.320 it's a little doubtful

00:12:18.860 to me

00:12:19.200 how accurate

00:12:20.400 it could be.

00:12:21.440 Now,

00:12:21.860 why would we,

00:12:22.920 why would the Guardian

00:12:23.580 run this?

00:12:24.680 Who are the sources?

00:12:25.640 I don't know.

00:12:26.500 I mean,

00:12:26.740 we know that we have had

00:12:28.240 some pretty dodgy characters

00:12:30.500 from the whole beginning

00:12:31.440 of this Russian collusion story.

00:12:33.040 Why are we even talking

00:12:34.400 about Russian collusion?

00:12:35.700 We're talking about

00:12:36.460 Russian collusion

00:12:37.320 because during

00:12:38.840 the presidential campaign,

00:12:40.160 we know the FBI

00:12:40.960 was spying on the Trump campaign.

00:12:42.860 We know that there was

00:12:43.500 the Steele dossier,

00:12:45.320 that document that was used

00:12:46.900 to launch investigations,

00:12:48.540 which we now know

00:12:49.480 was paid for,

00:12:50.260 was funded by Hillary Clinton

00:12:51.760 and the Democrats.

00:12:53.080 You've got characters

00:12:53.880 in the government

00:12:54.440 working on these things,

00:12:55.360 characters outside

00:12:56.040 of the government

00:12:56.540 working on Democrat politics.

00:12:58.580 So much of it

00:12:59.640 seemed contrived

00:13:01.000 and so much of it

00:13:02.540 seemed faulty.

00:13:04.280 How do we know

00:13:06.360 whether the Guardian article

00:13:08.300 is real or not?

00:13:09.140 How do we know

00:13:09.700 whether the sources

00:13:10.440 are reliable or not?

00:13:11.900 The whole Russia investigation

00:13:13.660 is based on misinformation

00:13:15.780 and faulty stories.

00:13:17.580 Just remember

00:13:18.300 that Steele dossier,

00:13:19.340 the beginning of all of this.

00:13:21.040 You know,

00:13:21.480 it had the urine tape,

00:13:23.920 the alleged urine tape

00:13:25.040 was written about in this.

00:13:27.420 So foreign policy analysts

00:13:29.280 went over,

00:13:30.000 there was a long spread

00:13:31.340 in Newsweek of all places,

00:13:32.920 that showed a number

00:13:33.600 of inconsistencies

00:13:34.920 in that Steele dossier.

00:13:36.420 Just to go over

00:13:36.880 a few of them.

00:13:37.860 The Steele dossier

00:13:38.780 alleged the Russian regime

00:13:41.120 has been cultivating,

00:13:42.500 supporting,

00:13:42.880 and assisting Trump

00:13:43.560 for at least five years.

00:13:46.700 That claim seems

00:13:47.780 the most preposterous.

00:13:49.060 Who five years ago

00:13:49.920 would have thought

00:13:50.260 that Donald Trump

00:13:50.900 would become president?

00:13:52.100 He's a guy

00:13:52.500 who'd been bloviating

00:13:53.620 about possibly running

00:13:54.800 for president

00:13:55.260 since the 80s.

00:13:56.140 Nobody took it seriously.

00:13:57.800 He never did it.

00:13:58.740 He was,

00:13:59.120 he was,

00:13:59.560 had other interests.

00:14:01.920 The political analysts

00:14:03.080 didn't take it seriously.

00:14:04.180 So that must mean

00:14:04.920 that Vladimir Putin

00:14:06.160 is a psychic.

00:14:07.560 He could read Trump's mind

00:14:08.660 and knew he was going to run

00:14:09.620 and knew that the American people

00:14:11.320 would elect him.

00:14:12.340 That part,

00:14:13.260 just not,

00:14:14.040 not credible at all.

00:14:15.500 Another claim

00:14:16.300 in the Steele dossier,

00:14:18.340 quote,

00:14:18.680 so far Trump has declined

00:14:20.120 serious sweetheart

00:14:21.700 real estate business deals

00:14:22.940 offered to him in Russia.

00:14:24.740 We know this isn't true

00:14:25.700 because we know

00:14:26.160 he was going after

00:14:26.920 sweetheart real estate deals

00:14:28.220 in Russia.

00:14:29.200 They can't have it both ways.

00:14:30.940 The left can't have it

00:14:32.040 that Donald Trump

00:14:32.680 is corrupt

00:14:33.540 and he's using his influence

00:14:34.940 to try to get sweetheart deals 1.00

00:14:36.720 and to further enrich himself

00:14:38.240 and that he hasn't

00:14:39.800 done that at all.

00:14:40.720 We know that after

00:14:41.220 the Miss Universe pageant

00:14:42.740 in Russia,

00:14:43.440 he was meeting with Russians

00:14:44.660 to try to get deals.

00:14:45.740 We know that he tried

00:14:46.620 in 2013

00:14:47.140 to get a Trump hotel

00:14:48.980 in Russia.

00:14:50.740 So we know that

00:14:51.340 that part of the Steele dossier

00:14:52.360 is false.

00:14:53.360 It goes on,

00:14:53.920 it says,

00:14:54.480 quote,

00:14:54.700 he and his inner circle

00:14:55.720 have accepted

00:14:56.500 a regular flow

00:14:57.340 of intelligence

00:14:57.960 from the Kremlin,

00:14:59.120 including on Democratic

00:15:00.240 and other rivals.

00:15:02.280 Okay,

00:15:02.780 so these things

00:15:03.900 all sound plausible

00:15:04.940 until you scratch

00:15:06.000 just below the surface.

00:15:07.700 If he's regularly

00:15:08.600 receiving a flow

00:15:09.680 of intelligence

00:15:10.280 during the campaign,

00:15:11.780 why didn't he use

00:15:12.640 any of it?

00:15:14.100 During the campaign,

00:15:15.300 his main tools

00:15:16.220 were saying mean things

00:15:18.320 about illegal aliens,

00:15:19.880 wearing cheap hats,

00:15:22.020 and calling Hillary crooked, 1.00

00:15:23.580 all of which I support.

00:15:24.520 I'm all for that.

00:15:26.780 But he didn't leak

00:15:28.140 any shocking information.

00:15:30.480 There's no evidence

00:15:31.360 that he got

00:15:31.780 any flows of intelligence.

00:15:34.540 What else?

00:15:35.700 Obviously,

00:15:36.240 there was the urine,

00:15:37.960 alleged urine tape,

00:15:39.340 which we don't believe

00:15:40.080 because Donald Trump

00:15:40.960 is a germ freak.

00:15:42.040 He's an apparent germaphobe.

00:15:43.960 And also,

00:15:44.880 if he knew

00:15:45.480 that they had some

00:15:46.600 video like that on him,

00:15:48.840 don't you think

00:15:49.820 he might have considered

00:15:50.720 not running for president?

00:15:52.180 Isn't that just

00:15:52.600 a ticking time bomb?

00:15:53.600 Yeah, of course.

00:15:55.140 Now,

00:15:57.120 it goes on further

00:15:58.280 in the Steele dossier.

00:15:59.200 They say that there's

00:16:00.260 another dossier

00:16:01.180 of compromising material

00:16:02.820 on Hillary Clinton

00:16:03.660 that was collected

00:16:05.160 by the Russian

00:16:05.720 intelligence services

00:16:06.620 over many years,

00:16:08.320 but it was not

00:16:09.700 distributed abroad,

00:16:10.700 including to Donald Trump.

00:16:12.580 Okay, also totally believable.

00:16:14.140 Hillary Clinton

00:16:14.780 mishandled federal records.

00:16:17.160 We know she was

00:16:17.720 regularly communicating

00:16:19.260 on unsecured devices.

00:16:20.680 She had her own

00:16:21.120 private email server at home.

00:16:22.420 Okay, I totally believe

00:16:23.460 that they're collecting

00:16:24.420 intel on her.

00:16:26.720 But that line

00:16:27.700 in the Steele dossier

00:16:28.440 contradicts the earlier line.

00:16:30.180 On the first hand,

00:16:31.000 we're being told

00:16:31.660 that Donald Trump

00:16:33.280 is regularly receiving

00:16:34.520 intelligence

00:16:35.080 on all of his

00:16:35.780 Democrat opponents

00:16:36.600 like Hillary. 1.00

00:16:37.720 Then we're being told

00:16:38.740 he hasn't received

00:16:39.940 intelligence on Hillary.

00:16:41.560 That's a contradiction

00:16:42.500 just within the Steele dossier.

00:16:44.400 Which is it?

00:16:45.660 We're then told

00:16:46.240 later in the Steele dossier,

00:16:47.520 the dossier is controlled

00:16:48.400 by Kremlin spokesman

00:16:49.700 and Dmitry Peskov

00:16:50.720 on Putin's orders.

00:16:52.760 Why on earth

00:16:53.440 would a spokesman

00:16:54.340 be the one

00:16:54.920 to handle

00:16:56.160 the dossier

00:16:57.220 on Hillary Clinton?

00:16:58.380 Why would it be?

00:16:59.020 I've worked as a spokesman

00:17:00.260 for politicians.

00:17:01.380 I've worked as a press secretary.

00:17:03.340 That isn't the sort of thing

00:17:04.800 that you do.

00:17:06.200 When you're a press secretary,

00:17:07.640 you smile on camera

00:17:08.620 and you communicate

00:17:09.440 to the public

00:17:10.440 what the politician

00:17:11.900 is thinking or doing.

00:17:13.460 When you're a spy,

00:17:14.740 that's when you control

00:17:15.440 dossiers

00:17:15.960 and you control

00:17:16.800 surveillance on other people.

00:17:18.300 Also, it was pointed out

00:17:20.720 by Russian speakers

00:17:21.780 when the Steele dossier

00:17:23.540 came out

00:17:23.900 that the syntax

00:17:24.660 in many places

00:17:25.660 doesn't look like

00:17:26.220 it was written

00:17:26.600 by a native English speaker.

00:17:28.360 It might have been

00:17:28.700 written by a Russian.

00:17:29.940 And finally,

00:17:31.020 we're told that

00:17:32.020 in the Steele dossier,

00:17:33.700 quote,

00:17:34.060 the existence

00:17:34.600 of a Russian dossier

00:17:35.920 or compromise

00:17:36.580 on Hillary Clinton

00:17:37.480 is confirmed

00:17:38.500 by source B

00:17:40.100 and was collected

00:17:41.120 by Department K

00:17:41.940 of the FSB

00:17:42.700 for many years.

00:17:43.640 Now, if you or I

00:17:44.440 are reading that,

00:17:45.480 it would be gibberish

00:17:46.320 to us, right?

00:17:46.920 It would be like

00:17:47.940 reading Russian

00:17:48.520 or reading Greek

00:17:49.180 or something.

00:17:49.480 We just don't know.

00:17:50.740 But what foreign policy

00:17:52.340 analysts have pointed out

00:17:53.480 is that that department,

00:17:55.120 Directorate K,

00:17:56.580 does not do intelligence

00:17:59.000 on foreign leaders.

00:18:00.320 There are other departments

00:18:01.280 that do that,

00:18:01.900 SVR,

00:18:03.000 FOPSI,

00:18:03.660 other departments

00:18:04.600 that you or I

00:18:05.300 have never heard of.

00:18:06.280 But Directorate K

00:18:07.760 doesn't do that.

00:18:08.660 So how did all of this

00:18:10.140 get in there?

00:18:10.660 One of the suggestions

00:18:12.380 is that the Steele dossier

00:18:14.240 was actually

00:18:15.900 Russian misinformation.

00:18:17.120 So it was fed

00:18:18.600 with false information

00:18:20.480 from Russians

00:18:21.220 to further complicate

00:18:22.520 the American political system

00:18:24.740 and throw it into turmoil.

00:18:26.280 My question,

00:18:27.280 the reason I just went

00:18:28.180 through all of that

00:18:29.000 Steele dossier stuff

00:18:30.240 is how do we know

00:18:32.420 that's not what's happening

00:18:33.200 with this Guardian article?

00:18:34.780 How do we know

00:18:35.340 that we're not getting

00:18:36.120 more Russian misinformation?

00:18:38.360 The Russians have dealt 1.00

00:18:40.280 in misinformation

00:18:40.980 forever,

00:18:42.160 for eternity,

00:18:43.120 and obviously during the Cold War

00:18:44.960 that was their specialty.

00:18:46.080 How do we know

00:18:46.960 that that's not

00:18:47.440 what we're getting here?

00:18:49.280 What does Bob Mueller know?

00:18:50.680 Is this really what he knows?

00:18:52.360 Or is there something else

00:18:55.140 that we haven't heard of yet?

00:18:56.500 Is this being cooked up

00:18:57.760 by bad actors?

00:18:59.440 I'm not saying,

00:19:00.080 look,

00:19:00.380 I'm not saying

00:19:00.780 I'm going to believe

00:19:01.380 Bob Mueller,

00:19:02.760 or rather Paul Manafort

00:19:03.980 just because he says so.

00:19:05.080 I'm not saying

00:19:05.580 I'm going to believe

00:19:05.980 Julian Assange

00:19:06.760 just because he says so.

00:19:07.580 I'm not saying

00:19:08.220 that I'm just going

00:19:08.980 to believe Donald Trump

00:19:09.900 just because he says so.

00:19:11.740 Or likewise,

00:19:12.620 Bob Mueller

00:19:13.100 or Peter Strzok

00:19:14.140 or any of the other people

00:19:14.940 working on the Mueller investigation.

00:19:16.680 But we've got to parse this out.

00:19:18.340 We've got a lot of people

00:19:19.160 with a lot of interests here

00:19:20.960 trying to cover up

00:19:21.980 a lot of different things.

00:19:23.700 So,

00:19:24.620 which is it?

00:19:25.480 I don't know.

00:19:25.960 We know also today

00:19:27.340 that Mueller

00:19:28.640 is not only pressuring

00:19:29.760 Paul Manafort,

00:19:31.020 we know that he's pressuring

00:19:32.100 Jerome Corsi.

00:19:33.480 You might know Jerome Corsi.

00:19:35.140 I've followed him

00:19:35.840 for a number of years.

00:19:36.700 He's a conservative writer,

00:19:38.120 kind of a conspiracy theorist type.

00:19:40.420 He says a lot of kooky things.

00:19:42.420 So some people

00:19:43.100 completely write him off.

00:19:44.380 It's worth noting,

00:19:45.880 the guy does have a PhD

00:19:47.260 in political science

00:19:48.440 from Harvard.

00:19:49.460 So you can't write him off entirely.

00:19:51.460 He's not,

00:19:51.920 you know,

00:19:52.140 he is a guy

00:19:52.860 who has at least studied

00:19:55.120 political science,

00:19:56.020 political philosophy

00:19:56.720 at serious places.

00:19:58.760 Jerome Corsi now

00:19:59.640 expects to be indicted

00:20:01.340 and he has apparently

00:20:02.580 rejected a plea deal.

00:20:03.680 Just a few weeks ago,

00:20:05.420 Jerome Corsi

00:20:05.980 went on television,

00:20:06.680 he said,

00:20:07.060 Mueller is going

00:20:07.560 to indict me soon.

00:20:08.440 Here's Jerome Corsi.

00:20:09.260 I got served a subpoena

00:20:11.540 on August 28th

00:20:14.260 at my home.

00:20:15.580 Two FBI agents

00:20:16.540 show up unannounced

00:20:17.500 and I did not talk

00:20:19.640 to the FBI.

00:20:20.940 Of course,

00:20:21.160 my wife was pretty startled

00:20:22.280 and we began

00:20:25.580 a series of discussions

00:20:27.620 with them

00:20:28.100 that have gone on

00:20:28.740 for two months.

00:20:31.420 And at the end

00:20:33.100 of that two months,

00:20:34.600 even though I did

00:20:35.940 everything I could

00:20:36.540 to cooperate,

00:20:38.620 the entire negotiations

00:20:40.200 and discussions

00:20:40.700 have just blown up.

00:20:42.460 And now I fully anticipate

00:20:44.240 that in the next few days

00:20:46.180 I will be indicted

00:20:47.380 by Mueller

00:20:49.600 for some form

00:20:51.540 or other

00:20:51.880 of giving false information

00:20:53.320 to the special counsel

00:20:55.860 or to one

00:20:56.920 or the other grand jury

00:20:59.060 or however they want

00:21:00.180 to do the indictment.

00:21:02.940 But I'm going

00:21:03.720 to be criminally charged.

00:21:06.540 Well, he predicted it

00:21:08.660 and it sure looks like

00:21:09.620 things are going that way.

00:21:11.060 Now we've learned

00:21:12.460 that Jerome Corsi,

00:21:13.920 who, you know,

00:21:14.620 he's a conservative

00:21:15.420 media type,

00:21:16.700 he's written some books,

00:21:18.900 I think he was on

00:21:19.860 Infowars

00:21:20.760 when he was going

00:21:22.020 a little further out,

00:21:23.060 so he's selling vitamins

00:21:24.580 and talking about

00:21:25.660 the gay frogs. 1.00

00:21:26.700 No, I don't think he was.

00:21:27.480 I think Alex Jones

00:21:28.160 was doing that.

00:21:29.620 He now expects

00:21:31.220 to be criminally charged

00:21:32.140 and he's rejected

00:21:32.980 a plea deal.

00:21:34.560 Now, what is

00:21:35.180 the plea deal about?

00:21:36.580 What is he going

00:21:37.400 to be charged with?

00:21:38.940 Throughout this entire

00:21:39.900 Mueller investigation,

00:21:41.280 they haven't gotten

00:21:42.120 anybody for any

00:21:43.540 actual crime

00:21:44.940 related to the

00:21:46.120 Trump campaign.

00:21:47.020 They haven't gotten

00:21:47.560 anybody for any

00:21:48.480 actual crime

00:21:49.680 related to working

00:21:51.300 with Russians

00:21:51.980 or getting information

00:21:53.260 or spying on Hillary

00:21:54.440 or whatever.

00:21:55.760 They haven't,

00:21:56.180 they haven't gotten

00:21:58.020 them for that.

00:21:58.800 They've only gotten

00:21:59.400 them for procedural crimes,

00:22:01.240 for lying to the FBI

00:22:03.160 or perjuring themselves

00:22:04.360 or not telling

00:22:05.000 the whole truth.

00:22:05.980 And of course,

00:22:06.740 the old line in D.C.

00:22:08.040 is you could indict

00:22:09.300 a ham sandwich,

00:22:10.700 especially on a

00:22:11.500 procedural sort of crime.

00:22:12.920 So what is the perjury?

00:22:15.020 Did he perjure himself?

00:22:17.840 The issue with

00:22:19.000 Jerome Corsi

00:22:19.820 is Jerome Corsi

00:22:21.740 predicted that

00:22:23.100 WikiLeaks

00:22:24.480 had John Podesta's

00:22:26.340 emails a week

00:22:27.640 before they were

00:22:28.400 released.

00:22:30.080 He predicted

00:22:30.940 that they had them

00:22:31.740 and then a week later

00:22:32.560 WikiLeaks releases them

00:22:34.120 and now Mueller

00:22:35.120 is looking and saying

00:22:35.860 how did you know that?

00:22:37.160 Jerome Corsi

00:22:37.780 is saying it was

00:22:38.280 a lucky guess.

00:22:40.300 Obviously,

00:22:40.920 Mueller thinks

00:22:41.420 that he was tipped off

00:22:42.240 by somebody,

00:22:42.960 that he was in contact

00:22:44.000 with somebody

00:22:44.980 at WikiLeaks.

00:22:46.000 Who knows?

00:22:47.200 Was it a lucky guess?

00:22:48.420 I don't know.

00:22:48.860 It's hard to imagine that.

00:22:50.640 It's not totally

00:22:51.640 out of the realm

00:22:52.220 of possibility

00:22:52.860 because John Podesta

00:22:53.920 was running

00:22:54.580 Hillary Clinton's campaign.

00:22:56.160 So I suppose

00:22:56.960 it's,

00:22:57.840 I'm not saying

00:22:58.400 it's 100% not true,

00:23:00.220 but that's not even

00:23:01.140 the question.

00:23:01.680 The question

00:23:02.220 on perjury is

00:23:03.640 did he intentionally,

00:23:06.280 willfully lie

00:23:07.560 to the investigators

00:23:08.820 or did he just

00:23:10.980 leave something out?

00:23:12.140 Did he omit something?

00:23:14.500 Mueller is now

00:23:15.600 pressuring Jerome Corsi

00:23:17.400 to plead guilty

00:23:18.360 to one count

00:23:19.320 of perjury

00:23:20.120 and how will this relate?

00:23:22.220 I don't know.

00:23:22.600 This could relate

00:23:23.040 to WikiLeaks.

00:23:23.920 This could relate

00:23:24.440 to Roger Stone

00:23:25.320 who said that he had

00:23:26.380 had information

00:23:27.040 from WikiLeaks

00:23:27.940 and then later said

00:23:29.060 he didn't have

00:23:29.520 direct information.

00:23:30.340 It was through

00:23:30.720 an intermediary.

00:23:31.560 Who knows?

00:23:32.840 Corsi is sticking

00:23:33.620 to his story

00:23:34.380 that he forgot

00:23:35.240 certain things

00:23:36.040 but did not

00:23:37.020 willfully lie

00:23:38.540 to the investigators.

00:23:40.900 I almost

00:23:41.960 am tempted

00:23:42.960 to believe him here

00:23:43.860 because

00:23:44.840 if he enters

00:23:46.480 into a plea deal

00:23:47.440 and says

00:23:48.340 I lied on one count

00:23:49.680 and maybe it could

00:23:50.360 be reduced

00:23:50.920 or maybe this

00:23:51.560 or I could be pardoned

00:23:52.560 or I won't be in jail

00:23:53.680 very long

00:23:54.220 or whatever,

00:23:55.460 that seems

00:23:57.100 preferable to them

00:23:58.280 throwing the book

00:23:59.000 at Corsi

00:23:59.520 but what Jerome Corsi

00:24:00.880 is saying is

00:24:01.320 I would rather

00:24:02.040 rot away in prison

00:24:03.640 than cop to something

00:24:05.200 that I did not do.

00:24:07.340 That I'm not,

00:24:08.220 I did not lie,

00:24:09.380 I'm not going to say

00:24:10.300 that I lied

00:24:10.900 just because Bob Mueller

00:24:12.020 wants me to.

00:24:12.840 I'm not going to spout

00:24:13.960 a storyline

00:24:15.140 that the special counsel

00:24:16.800 is trying to build

00:24:18.040 if it's not true

00:24:18.860 and that is where

00:24:20.020 Donald Trump comes in

00:24:21.120 because you see

00:24:22.300 this building over time.

00:24:23.660 Bernard Carrick,

00:24:24.460 the former police commissioner

00:24:25.440 in New York,

00:24:26.020 suggested this

00:24:26.640 in some tweets yesterday.

00:24:28.480 Some on the right

00:24:29.260 are now saying

00:24:30.060 that the special counsel

00:24:31.280 has a storyline.

00:24:33.540 They have a narrative

00:24:34.560 of Trump collusion

00:24:36.160 and nefarious activities

00:24:37.260 that they are going to build

00:24:38.180 and they are going to force people

00:24:39.760 to say that it's true

00:24:41.360 even if it's not true.

00:24:43.200 Donald Trump,

00:24:43.900 he tweeted out

00:24:44.540 in his typical subdued way,

00:24:47.260 quote,

00:24:47.720 the phony witch hunt continues

00:24:49.160 but Mueller and his gang

00:24:50.560 of angry Dems

00:24:51.440 are only looking at one side

00:24:52.840 not the other.

00:24:53.780 Wait until it comes out

00:24:54.800 how horribly and viciously

00:24:56.540 they are treating people,

00:24:58.260 ruining lives for them,

00:24:59.560 refusing to lie.

00:25:00.720 Mueller is a conflicted prosecutor

00:25:02.280 gone rogue.

00:25:03.480 The fake news media

00:25:04.480 builds Bob Mueller up

00:25:05.620 as a saint

00:25:06.200 when in actuality

00:25:07.560 he's the exact opposite.

00:25:08.900 He's doing tremendous damage

00:25:10.200 to our criminal justice system

00:25:11.580 where he is only looking

00:25:12.720 at one side

00:25:13.260 and not the other.

00:25:14.120 Heroes will come of this

00:25:15.020 and it won't be Mueller

00:25:15.800 and his terrible gang

00:25:16.800 of angry Democrats.

00:25:18.140 It goes on,

00:25:18.900 don't worry.

00:25:19.680 It's not,

00:25:20.400 this is a three tweet tweet.

00:25:22.080 He goes on,

00:25:22.520 he says,

00:25:22.980 look at their past,

00:25:24.060 look where they come from.

00:25:25.900 The now $30 million

00:25:27.120 witch hunt continues

00:25:28.400 and they've got nothing

00:25:29.500 but ruined lives.

00:25:30.980 Where is the server?

00:25:32.620 Where is the Hillary email server?

00:25:34.120 Good point.

00:25:35.000 Let these terrible people

00:25:36.180 go back to the Clinton Foundation

00:25:37.720 and Justice Department.

00:25:40.700 He makes a good point.

00:25:42.780 Donald Trump makes a good point.

00:25:45.580 Why,

00:25:46.100 where are the investigations

00:25:47.060 into Hillary? 1.00

00:25:48.240 Where are,

00:25:49.640 where are all,

00:25:50.520 where is the,

00:25:51.160 the prosecution?

00:25:52.200 Where are the investigations

00:25:52.920 into Democrats?

00:25:54.180 Why was the Mueller investigation

00:25:56.020 stacked with so many

00:25:57.800 anti-Trump,

00:25:58.660 never Trump operatives?

00:26:00.560 Why was it stacked

00:26:01.640 with somebody,

00:26:02.540 Peter Strzok,

00:26:03.420 who said in a text message

00:26:04.980 to his lover,

00:26:06.260 I will use the force

00:26:07.540 of the FBI

00:26:08.280 to prevent Donald Trump

00:26:09.780 from being president.

00:26:11.340 Why,

00:26:11.800 why would,

00:26:12.180 that is a little weird.

00:26:13.560 It's a little weird

00:26:14.100 that it's dragged on like this

00:26:15.300 and they've got nothing thus far.

00:26:16.840 They've come up with nothing.

00:26:18.460 So what are we to make

00:26:19.320 with all of it?

00:26:20.680 We know that Paul Manafort's dodgy.

00:26:22.460 We know that WikiLeaks is dodgy.

00:26:24.240 We know that the FBI officials

00:26:26.060 who were involved

00:26:27.020 in the Mueller investigation

00:26:27.820 are dodgy.

00:26:28.920 The investigation itself is dodgy

00:26:30.540 and Donald Trump,

00:26:31.740 love him to death,

00:26:32.820 but you know,

00:26:33.580 he's a,

00:26:33.920 he occasionally can be

00:26:35.000 a little bit dodgy

00:26:35.860 or he can dodge questions.

00:26:37.520 He can,

00:26:37.860 I'll massage that.

00:26:39.640 We know that there are

00:26:40.940 a lot of people here

00:26:41.720 and we can't take any of them

00:26:42.900 at their word.

00:26:43.740 That's fine.

00:26:44.620 Put not your trust in princes.

00:26:46.080 I don't put my faith in princes,

00:26:47.480 but just pull out of the details.

00:26:50.900 I wanted to give you

00:26:51.640 the details here

00:26:52.400 because you're going to hear

00:26:53.520 narratives being spun

00:26:54.880 on constantly.

00:26:56.680 You're going to hear

00:26:57.500 all of these things

00:26:58.540 in the mainstream media

00:27:00.540 and because you don't know,

00:27:02.580 they're expecting you

00:27:03.460 not to know the details

00:27:04.420 so that they can spin their yarn,

00:27:06.100 but you need to know

00:27:06.640 the details to know

00:27:07.400 that that's not true.

00:27:08.660 Oh, that's not true.

00:27:09.580 But now that you know

00:27:10.240 the details,

00:27:10.800 zoom out.

00:27:11.780 What are we looking at?

00:27:12.760 We're looking at Paul Manafort,

00:27:14.600 a political operative,

00:27:15.760 is rotting away

00:27:16.780 in solitary confinement.

00:27:18.940 And the question

00:27:19.460 I got to ask you is,

00:27:20.560 would he be there

00:27:21.460 if Donald Trump

00:27:22.480 were not elected president?

00:27:24.040 If he had never worked

00:27:24.900 for Donald Trump?

00:27:26.520 Would he be there?

00:27:27.780 Let's say he were just

00:27:28.640 lobbying for Ukraine,

00:27:30.040 doing his activities,

00:27:31.380 you know,

00:27:31.860 kind of being

00:27:32.280 a Republican operative.

00:27:34.560 Would he be,

00:27:35.700 I know,

00:27:36.120 I know he's in jail

00:27:36.900 for other crimes.

00:27:37.960 I know it's tax evasion

00:27:39.640 or this or that.

00:27:40.700 Right.

00:27:41.140 Would he be in prison

00:27:42.320 if he had not committed

00:27:44.140 the unforgivable sin

00:27:46.160 of helping Donald Trump

00:27:47.620 become president?

00:27:48.640 Of course not.

00:27:50.080 Bill Clinton

00:27:50.660 commits perjury.

00:27:52.360 He commits perjury

00:27:53.420 while he's president.

00:27:54.840 Gets off scot-free.

00:27:55.940 No problem.

00:27:56.800 Hillary Clinton

00:27:57.540 improperly handles

00:27:59.400 federal records.

00:28:00.600 She then destroys

00:28:01.380 those federal records.

00:28:02.540 Why?

00:28:03.060 Because she was accepting

00:28:03.980 bribes while she was 0.98

00:28:05.040 in office.

00:28:06.420 Tens of millions

00:28:07.260 of dollars

00:28:07.700 from the Saudi government

00:28:08.680 to use just one

00:28:09.660 foreign regime

00:28:10.580 that's in the news.

00:28:12.480 Selling our uranium

00:28:13.600 to Russian interests.

00:28:15.800 Approving the sale

00:28:16.760 in exchange for

00:28:18.120 apparently some money.

00:28:20.560 What happens to her? 0.98

00:28:21.700 That's no problem.

00:28:23.780 But Paul Manafort

00:28:24.860 has the audacity

00:28:25.700 to work for Trump.

00:28:26.940 He's going to rot

00:28:27.940 in prison.

00:28:28.760 What crime is Donald Trump

00:28:29.780 being accused of?

00:28:30.620 Can you name one crime?

00:28:32.100 No, of course not.

00:28:33.620 They accuse him of collusion

00:28:34.740 because they don't have

00:28:35.860 a crime that they can name.

00:28:36.780 And collusion

00:28:37.220 is not a crime.

00:28:38.700 There is no law

00:28:39.780 against collusion.

00:28:40.780 And by the way,

00:28:42.560 if there were a law

00:28:44.180 against collusion,

00:28:45.260 Hillary Clinton

00:28:45.840 would be culpable of it.

00:28:47.440 This whole thing

00:28:48.000 was kicked off

00:28:48.640 by a Steele dossier

00:28:49.880 that was funded

00:28:51.020 by Hillary Clinton

00:28:52.260 and the Democrats.

00:28:54.520 They were the ones.

00:28:55.500 Where did the information

00:28:56.260 from the Steele dossier

00:28:57.100 come from?

00:28:57.520 It came from the Russians.

00:28:58.760 It had to come from the Russians. 0.81

00:29:00.280 They're the only ones

00:29:00.980 with the information.

00:29:01.660 So we know for a fact

00:29:03.780 that Hillary Clinton

00:29:04.540 paid with her money

00:29:06.240 through various intermediaries,

00:29:08.840 but from the campaign

00:29:09.560 and the DNC,

00:29:11.000 paid for this information,

00:29:12.820 colluded with the Russians,

00:29:13.940 did exactly what Donald Trump

00:29:15.160 is being accused of doing.

00:29:16.680 Why is there

00:29:17.220 no investigation into her?

00:29:18.680 Why are they

00:29:19.280 dogging these Republicans?

00:29:21.280 I don't know.

00:29:21.820 It seems that there's

00:29:22.420 a lot else at stake.

00:29:24.380 What is this really about?

00:29:25.480 Is this about

00:29:26.000 the Donald Trump campaign?

00:29:27.520 No way.

00:29:28.260 It stinks to high heaven.

00:29:29.240 We will have to get

00:29:30.540 to more of that,

00:29:31.340 but we can't get to it now

00:29:32.200 because we've got

00:29:32.960 vegans to talk about

00:29:34.540 and how vegans

00:29:35.320 ruin everything.

00:29:36.000 We've got this awful woman 1.00

00:29:37.580 who is ruining

00:29:38.300 her child's life

00:29:39.240 by trying to castrate him.

00:29:42.480 And tonight,

00:29:43.600 you should come out

00:29:44.220 to Florida State University.

00:29:45.540 I'm going to be at FSU tonight

00:29:46.640 at 6 p.m. Eastern

00:29:47.860 for the latest stop

00:29:49.140 on my Yafko Fefe

00:29:50.240 on Campus tour.

00:29:52.160 Snowflakes, obviously,

00:29:53.240 will be melting everywhere,

00:29:54.240 so get your tumblers ready.

00:29:55.800 We will be discussing

00:29:56.780 why I'm on the wrong side

00:29:58.960 of history class.

00:30:00.260 It should be a lot of fun.

00:30:01.840 It will cause a lot of...

00:30:02.920 Maybe the professors

00:30:04.200 will come out

00:30:04.820 and protest me this time.

00:30:06.180 Maybe the gender studies 1.00

00:30:07.300 sociology professors

00:30:08.400 will come out

00:30:09.040 and march on my speech.

00:30:10.240 We'll see.

00:30:10.640 We'll see what happens.

00:30:11.480 Show up tonight.

00:30:12.020 It's going to be a lot of fun.

00:30:12.680 6 p.m. Eastern at FSU.

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00:30:30.000 You get a lot of stuff.

00:30:31.280 None of that matters.

00:30:32.280 A leftist tears tumbler matters.

00:30:35.100 Did you go to your left-wing relatives

00:30:36.500 for Thanksgiving

00:30:37.140 and not bring the tumbler?

00:30:39.920 Well, no.

00:30:40.500 You didn't

00:30:41.320 because you would have drowned

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00:30:43.800 this show right now.

00:30:44.640 Make sure that you don't do this

00:30:46.060 at Christmas.

00:30:47.040 That would be...

00:30:47.620 Especially with the temperatures

00:30:48.740 getting lower and lower,

00:30:49.600 the leftist tears will freeze.

00:30:51.780 You'll get leftist hailstorms.

00:30:53.980 It can really be dangerous.

00:30:55.100 Knock you on the head. 0.96

00:30:55.720 Don't do that.

00:30:56.200 Go to DailyWire.com.

00:30:57.380 We will be right back.

00:30:58.620 Now, enough about all of this

00:31:11.180 international espionage,

00:31:13.600 you know,

00:31:14.260 presidential advisors

00:31:15.320 going to jail, 0.88

00:31:16.880 major powers.

00:31:17.960 Enough of that.

00:31:18.460 That doesn't matter.

00:31:19.080 What we need to talk about

00:31:20.120 is how vegans ruin everything.

00:31:22.760 They ruin everything.

00:31:24.360 There was a video.

00:31:25.160 There were some nice British people

00:31:26.580 just trying to enjoy

00:31:28.000 a steak meal,

00:31:29.360 maybe some delicious veal,

00:31:31.280 some, you know,

00:31:31.680 nice little delicious

00:31:32.960 baby, baby, baby veal.

00:31:34.580 And a bunch of vegans

00:31:36.220 stormed in

00:31:37.140 and hilariously tried

00:31:38.940 to ruin their dinner.

00:31:39.840 Here they are.

00:31:40.320 There's no excuse for animal abuse.

00:32:04.700 There's no excuse for animal abuse.

00:32:09.380 There's no excuse for delicious foie gras on cheeseburgers.

00:32:15.260 There's no, there's no, yeah, there's no substitute is what you mean.

00:32:18.260 There's nothing so, mm, nothing so delicious.

00:32:20.520 I won't, um, out a friend of mine,

00:32:24.720 a member of Congress,

00:32:26.000 who I was talking about this issue one time with that person.

00:32:29.640 And I said,

00:32:30.380 did you ever see that movie Meat from the 1970s?

00:32:33.460 And, uh, this person turned to me and said,

00:32:35.420 oh yeah, I saw this whole movie about how awful the meat industry is.

00:32:39.160 And gosh, I left there just hankering for a porterhouse.

00:32:42.160 Mm, couldn't wait.

00:32:43.900 Licking my chops in the movie theater.

00:32:46.220 So, so these lunatics were coming in there.

00:32:49.540 And the reason I bring it up,

00:32:51.140 obviously, you know,

00:32:51.800 these vegetarian types are always a little excitable.

00:32:54.660 But the reason I bring it up is to show the moral idiocy

00:32:58.180 and the moral mistakes that can come

00:33:01.700 when you hone in on one very minor aspect of the human life

00:33:06.480 and you make an idol out of that.

00:33:08.340 You make that your god.

00:33:10.140 You, uh, you turn into a moral idiot.

00:33:13.300 You make a lot of errors.

00:33:15.160 This group was called Direct Action Everywhere.

00:33:17.560 They come, and I guess they're going in everywhere.

00:33:19.780 Better not come to my steakhouse.

00:33:21.120 They go into this steakhouse in Britain

00:33:22.860 and the normal patrons who were just trying to enjoy their meal,

00:33:26.680 you couldn't see it in the video,

00:33:28.200 but later on they start mooing.

00:33:30.040 So you see them, they say,

00:33:31.140 you know, food, it's not food, it's murder, it's violence.

00:33:34.580 And you just hear the patrons go, moo, moo.

00:33:37.640 So that was pretty funny.

00:33:38.800 But veganism is on the rise

00:33:40.480 and it's on the rise because this country is morally very confused.

00:33:43.700 Right now, there is one survey that showed that since 2014,

00:33:48.500 so we're talking the last four years,

00:33:50.100 veganism has increased in the United States by 500%.

00:33:53.960 I didn't believe this

00:33:55.760 until I recently was having lunch with some friends of mine

00:33:58.900 and they're vegan

00:34:00.500 and they brought me to a vegan restaurant

00:34:03.520 and I paid $30 for a mushroom

00:34:06.040 and I was very angry

00:34:07.640 and I ate beet ketchup.

00:34:08.800 I guess for some reason real ketchup

00:34:12.220 is not good enough for vegans.

00:34:14.520 So it's made of beets

00:34:15.340 and it's not ketchup

00:34:16.540 and it doesn't taste anything like ketchup.

00:34:18.500 So this is a moral idiocy.

00:34:19.960 I don't mean that my friends are moral idiots,

00:34:21.720 but in this regard,

00:34:22.620 they're missing the forest for the trees.

00:34:25.300 This is emblematic, I find,

00:34:28.000 of a lot of vegans,

00:34:29.660 maybe all the vegans,

00:34:31.300 seem to care more about animals than people.

00:34:34.360 We talked about this last week.

00:34:36.120 How many vegans do you know who are pro-life?

00:34:39.460 Probably not many.

00:34:41.040 I know a lot of vegans who are pro-abortion, pro-choice,

00:34:44.820 and yet they freak out if you eat an oyster.

00:34:48.900 And the oysters matter.

00:34:50.320 We'll get to that in a second.

00:34:51.800 Plenty of immoral people can be vegetarians.

00:34:55.160 Hitler was a vegetarian and Hitler loved dogs.

00:34:58.060 I don't use this just as an example.

00:35:00.200 Hitler drank water and Hillary Clinton drinks water 0.75

00:35:02.940 and therefore she's terrible.

00:35:03.800 But I am pointing out Hitler, 0.99

00:35:05.720 who is rightly considered one of the most evil figures in history,

00:35:10.480 certainly in modern history,

00:35:12.280 did have this moral stance of being a vegetarian

00:35:16.180 and he loved animals.

00:35:19.840 Some people are shocked by this.

00:35:21.460 They say, oh my gosh, can you imagine?

00:35:22.980 It's so strange.

00:35:23.820 No, it makes perfect sense to me.

00:35:25.780 He didn't really like humans very much,

00:35:27.940 but he certainly liked animals.

00:35:29.780 He mistook what matters in the order of life

00:35:33.660 and in the natural order.

00:35:35.440 These vegans believe that a little chicken

00:35:38.460 is more morally valuable than a human baby.

00:35:43.480 Why is this?

00:35:44.400 This leads even to certain questions.

00:35:46.500 I hope that we get for the vegan movement

00:35:48.980 what we have gotten from LGBT 0.99

00:35:51.680 and feminism and transgenderism. 0.51

00:35:54.900 That is an essential conflict

00:35:57.240 that starts to hit them.

00:35:59.240 Because in feminism 1.00

00:36:00.500 you have the deconstruction of gender,

00:36:03.060 the breaking down of the gender categories,

00:36:04.980 ultimately this leads to the denial

00:36:06.780 that gender exists at all.

00:36:08.280 This leads to transgenderism 1.00

00:36:09.960 and ultimately the undercutting of feminism. 1.00

00:36:12.260 I wonder if we'll see the same thing with veganism.

00:36:14.520 Because what we're told by veganism

00:36:16.360 is it's not just enough not to eat meat

00:36:19.840 or not just enough not to eat,

00:36:21.800 you know, baby seals and dolphins or something.

00:36:24.220 Not just enough not to eat cows.

00:36:26.840 But you can't even eat animal products.

00:36:30.620 You can't eat fish.

00:36:31.740 You can't eat milk.

00:36:33.140 You can't eat cheese.

00:36:34.600 You can't eat eggs.

00:36:37.020 You can't eat things that come from animals.

00:36:39.100 Why?

00:36:39.540 Because then the animals have to produce them

00:36:42.180 and they're suffering

00:36:42.880 and it isn't good

00:36:44.300 and it encourages more farming of animals.

00:36:46.740 Okay.

00:36:47.320 So that's taken it to another extreme.

00:36:49.520 There was an article in the Huffington Post recently

00:36:51.360 which said that vegans are not allowed to eat oysters.

00:36:55.220 What's an oyster?

00:36:56.940 An oyster is just a little bit of goop

00:36:58.940 that you put some sauce on sometimes

00:37:01.000 and slurp down at a bar

00:37:03.820 while you're having a martini.

00:37:04.980 That's what an oyster is.

00:37:06.200 Doesn't have a nervous system.

00:37:07.500 It in almost no way resembles an animal.

00:37:11.300 So some vegans have said,

00:37:12.220 well, it doesn't even have a central nervous system.

00:37:14.760 It doesn't really matter.

00:37:16.340 Now vegans are saying you can't eat that either.

00:37:18.280 It feels pain in its own way.

00:37:21.620 There's no scientific basis for this.

00:37:23.020 Oysters, of course, don't feel pain.

00:37:24.520 But what they're saying is

00:37:25.380 how dare you be so presumptuous

00:37:28.080 as to impose your categories of pain

00:37:31.920 on the little oyster.

00:37:33.520 This is exactly what happened

00:37:36.000 with the transgender movement and feminism.

00:37:38.180 They said how dare you impose your categories

00:37:41.280 of what is a woman or what isn't a woman 0.93

00:37:43.940 on humanity.

00:37:46.240 Don't you dare suggest that men can't have a uterus.

00:37:49.820 Some men have a uterus, to quote Planned Parenthood.

00:37:52.200 So it's the same thing.

00:37:52.980 You're seeing this in veganism.

00:37:54.160 How dare you impose your Western science on the oyster.

00:37:58.580 The oyster might feel pain.

00:37:59.840 We just don't know.

00:38:00.860 Well, where does that end?

00:38:01.860 Does that just end with oysters?

00:38:04.000 What about scallops?

00:38:05.620 Okay, maybe scallops too, or mussels, or clams.

00:38:08.460 What about a carrot?

00:38:12.600 A carrot doesn't feel pain.

00:38:14.080 A carrot's not conscious.

00:38:15.680 Yeah, right, an oyster's not conscious.

00:38:18.280 It's certainly not conscious.

00:38:19.460 It's not sentient.

00:38:20.240 Are you kidding me?

00:38:21.640 What about a Venus flytrap?

00:38:24.500 Those are plants, right?

00:38:25.960 But the plant closes its little flaps and eats flies.

00:38:32.320 It's a carnivorous plant.

00:38:34.020 Can we eat the Venus flytrap?

00:38:35.880 Is that not sentient?

00:38:37.460 It reacts to external stimuli.

00:38:40.180 Stimula, yeah.

00:38:41.420 Stimuli, sorry.

00:38:42.160 It reacts to them, but many plants react to external stimuli.

00:38:47.320 It's reactive.

00:38:48.640 Who are you to say that it doesn't feel pain?

00:38:50.540 Where does this end?

00:38:52.020 Why are you imposing your category and saying that animals' lives matter, but plants' lives don't matter?

00:38:58.860 Now, it will get to this point.

00:39:00.540 There will be people who do this.

00:39:01.840 They won't last very long because they'll starve to death.

00:39:03.580 But at a certain point, we have to consume things that live.

00:39:07.820 We can't just eat rocks.

00:39:09.420 This is what the devil tempted Christ to do in the wilderness.

00:39:11.660 He said, turn that rock into bread. 0.57

00:39:13.280 He said, I'm not going to do that.

00:39:14.340 That's a fantasy.

00:39:15.440 That's ridiculous.

00:39:17.060 So where is that going to go from there?

00:39:20.580 Obviously, they're going to be following that idea to its logical conclusion.

00:39:24.660 But the premises themselves are not logical.

00:39:28.600 The idea that we should exalt the oyster over the human being.

00:39:31.740 Humans are more important.

00:39:33.520 We have more dignity.

00:39:34.900 We are conscious.

00:39:36.140 We have dominion over the land and over the sea.

00:39:38.800 That is the reality of it.

00:39:40.440 And the denial of that reality by the vegan movement and vegetarianism is plausible at a little bit.

00:39:46.320 It's plausible when you eat less red meat.

00:39:48.080 It's plausible even when you give up cheese like a dummy.

00:39:51.220 I don't know why you would ever give up cheese.

00:39:52.540 But when you take it to its logical conclusion, it's not plausible, and that's fine by me.

00:39:56.620 They're going to look even more ridiculous than they do when they interrupt those Brits eating mutton 1.00

00:40:00.520 or whatever British people eat in steakhouses.

00:40:03.080 In a school in Virginia, in Fairfax, there is some good news.

00:40:08.060 I was so excited when I saw this story today.

00:40:10.800 The news was that the school is making the students read the Pledge of Allegiance.

00:40:15.000 Oh, that's good.

00:40:16.660 Oh, I'm very pleased to see that.

00:40:20.400 In a lot of places now, you don't have to say the Pledge of Allegiance.

00:40:23.040 When I grew up, you said the Pledge of Allegiance.

00:40:25.780 Now, even at events, I go to dinners, you recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

00:40:29.480 Now, people don't really have to do it.

00:40:32.300 So that's a good sign.

00:40:33.200 The bad sign is the school is having them recite the Pledge of Allegiance in Spanish.

00:40:38.000 This is a pretty bad idea.

00:40:39.520 So they started doing it.

00:40:40.960 They did this for, I think, one day, and the parents were so rightly outraged by it that the principal came in and canceled it.

00:40:47.560 Now, one mother who supported it said, quote, they had a native Spanish speaker read it Tuesday.

00:40:54.160 End of school day, Tuesday afternoon, the principal comes on and says he was sorry.

00:40:58.040 He's sorry.

00:40:58.660 He didn't want it to be offensive.

00:40:59.500 They canceled the program.

00:41:00.540 It was my understanding it would be Spanish, French, and German.

00:41:03.700 I think there's 80 or 90 different languages at this school, and I thought that would be a cool thing.

00:41:08.660 Okay, first of all, lady, there aren't 80 languages at your school.

00:41:12.760 They aren't.

00:41:13.200 Certainly, there aren't 80 being taught, and there aren't 80 being spoken.

00:41:15.840 They're trying to count little nothing dialects or something, and I think they're just making that up.

00:41:21.200 So there aren't 80 or 90 different languages, and also stop pretending that this is about French and German.

00:41:26.900 They didn't decide to institute the reading of the Pledge of Allegiance in Spanish so that we could practice our French or our German.

00:41:34.500 That did not happen at all.

00:41:36.220 And the school admits as much.

00:41:37.760 The school said that they were trying to promote engagement and inclusion.

00:41:42.480 Quote, this is a statement from the school.

00:41:43.860 A school administrator suggested students lead the Pledge in Spanish to promote engagement and inclusion.

00:41:49.360 Administrators believe this was an opportunity for other voices and languages to be heard and to recognize the school diversity.

00:41:55.100 Are they recognizing the diversity of all those French immigrants at the school?

00:41:58.400 How about all those German immigrants who finally made it over to recognize their diversity?

00:42:02.920 Of course not.

00:42:03.620 This is about Spanish, and we've seen this trend for years.

00:42:06.980 Now when you call up customer service, they say press 1 for English or press 1 for Spanish or whatever because it has not been encouraged for people to assimilate into the United States.

00:42:18.700 This is a big problem.

00:42:21.160 So they say, okay, we're going to say the Pledge of Allegiance in Spanish.

00:42:23.840 Why?

00:42:25.300 The United States is not a Spanish country.

00:42:28.460 The United States does not speak Spanish.

00:42:30.500 The Declaration of Independence was not written in Spanish.

00:42:33.180 The Constitution was not written in Spanish.

00:42:35.600 Our founding fathers didn't speak Spanish.

00:42:37.580 I'm all for learning different languages.

00:42:39.120 I speak multiple languages.

00:42:40.340 I like it.

00:42:41.100 I read the Italian newspaper frequently.

00:42:43.860 Yeah, I'm all for it.

00:42:45.020 I don't think we should recite the Pledge of Allegiance in Italian.

00:42:51.000 The point of the Pledge of Allegiance is to come together as a country and say, I respect this country.

00:42:57.360 I pledge my allegiance to this country.

00:42:59.620 We are one nation, indivisible.

00:43:01.940 What these people want to do is divide it. 0.92

00:43:03.900 And it's because of such a perverse sense of inclusion.

00:43:07.120 This is what another person said, another mother.

00:43:09.240 Quote, it's inclusive.

00:43:11.620 It's making them proud of their heritage and their ethnicity.

00:43:14.140 So I was surprised that instead of continuing it, there was a nixing and an apology.

00:43:19.560 It didn't seem right to me.

00:43:20.740 It's not inclusive.

00:43:21.660 It's exclusive.

00:43:23.260 When you have people who come, people come to this country to be Americans, or they should. 1.00

00:43:27.280 And if they don't want to be Americans, they shouldn't come. 1.00

00:43:29.380 So they come to this country to escape whatever awful place they were living in before.

00:43:33.120 And they make it here.

00:43:34.600 We should encourage them to be Americans.

00:43:36.940 We should not exclude them or make them different or make them other by encouraging them to speak the language that we don't speak here. 0.99

00:43:43.120 That's a very bad idea.

00:43:44.740 It's making them proud of their heritage and their ethnicity.

00:43:47.460 It's fine to take some enjoyment in your heritage.

00:43:50.820 I do that.

00:43:51.420 You know, I'm Italian, so I wear a crucifix.

00:43:55.040 I'm a Catholic, and I wear a crucifix.

00:43:56.640 And I'm Italian, so I wear a gold chain.

00:43:59.820 It's nice to enjoy that.

00:44:00.960 I eat a lot of monogoth and a lot of cannoli and things like that.

00:44:04.140 Okay, that's great.

00:44:05.460 But I'm not proud.

00:44:06.780 I don't walk around saying, I'm an Italian.

00:44:08.820 I don't walk around waving the Italian flag.

00:44:11.460 Of course not.

00:44:11.920 I'm an American.

00:44:13.500 I'm as American as apple pie.

00:44:15.560 A little swarthy apple pie, but, you know, a little burnt, a little crispy apple pie.

00:44:18.780 And that's how people who come to this country should be brought in, too.

00:44:23.880 You shouldn't be exactly proud of your heritage and ethnicity. 1.00

00:44:27.740 You left that.

00:44:28.500 You left that behind to come to America. 0.80

00:44:31.340 What translation, I wonder, of the pledge were they using in Spanish?

00:44:34.480 Which version?

00:44:35.400 They don't have a translation because the pledge is written to pledge allegiance to the United States.

00:44:39.720 A really bad idea.

00:44:40.960 Not good for the immigrants who come here. 1.00

00:44:42.800 If they're encouraged not to learn English very well or to speak Spanish, it will hurt them in their careers, certainly.

00:44:49.460 And it will make them other.

00:44:50.540 It will make them a second class.

00:44:52.280 And we're here to be Americans.

00:44:54.600 If you can't pledge allegiance under one language, then you're not pledging allegiance to your country at all.

00:45:00.480 Okay, that's our show.

00:45:01.340 So I have got to go give this speech in FSU.

00:45:04.100 It's going to be a lot of fun.

00:45:05.160 If you're in Tallahassee, come on out.

00:45:07.340 The topic, we'll be talking a little bit about American history, a lot about it tonight.

00:45:11.920 We'll have to get to this awful mother in Texas who's forcing her son to be pretending to be a woman who is trying to castrate him. 1.00

00:45:21.020 This woman obviously should be in jail or in a mental institution. 1.00

00:45:23.880 We'll get to that tomorrow.

00:45:24.700 In the meantime, I'm Michael Knowles.

00:45:25.820 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:45:26.940 I'll see you tomorrow.

00:45:31.340 The Michael Knowles Show is produced by Senia Villareal, executive producer Jeremy Boring, senior producer Jonathan Hay, our supervising producer Mathis Glover, and our technical producer is Austin Stevens.

00:45:45.500 Edited by Jim Nickel.

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The Michael Knowles Show - November 27, 2018

Ep. 258 - Did Trump Collude With The Russians？

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