The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 26 - The Battle of Berkeley ft. College Republican Pres. Bradley Devlin

00:00:00.320 Arms in the man, I sing. The latest Battle of Berkeley is underway as UC students demand

00:00:06.500 psychological counseling in the lead up to the Orthodox Jew they call a Nazi, Ben Shapiro's

00:00:12.000 speech at the craziest university in the country. We'll discuss this year of campus chaos with

00:00:17.480 someone who's been at the center of it all, Berkeley College Republican President Bradley

00:00:21.740 Devlin. Then, Allie Stuckey, Ariel Davidson, and Cassie Dillon join the panel of deplorables 1.00

00:00:27.460 to discuss some criminal rapper's stupid music video in which he lynches a white boy, Swedish 1.00

00:00:33.060 YouTube gazillionaire PewDiePie's dropping the N-word, and leftist criminals' vandalism 1.00

00:00:38.000 of New York City's famous Central Park statue of Christopher Columbus. I'm Michael Knowles

00:00:42.840 and this is the Michael Knowles Show. Shapiro. Shapiro is making trouble, that notorious Jewish 1.00

00:00:56.800 Nazi. He is going up to Berkeley right now, I think, as we speak. I imagine they're going 0.94

00:01:02.540 to call in the National Guard to prevent a conservative writer from giving a speech on

00:01:07.380 campus. You know, I am glad that we got him on the show last week because this, they're

00:01:12.540 going to be out for blood for this guy. They're going to try to prevent him from giving a speech

00:01:16.660 about how bad political violence is. Unbelievable, almost beyond parody. Now, maybe the most incredible

00:01:24.020 aspect of all this is that a New York Times opinion columnist penned an article yesterday

00:01:30.380 supporting Ben Shapiro. Can we check the weather outside?

00:01:40.860 It is truly unbelievable, very surprising. For those who haven't been following, let's go through

00:01:47.140 the timeline of the Berkeley chaos, what people are calling the Battle of Berkeley. So this actually

00:01:53.600 began in the 60s. Berkeley was the hotbed of the free speech movement, which is incredibly ironic

00:01:59.680 because now they are the hotbed of the anti-speech movement. They're trying to do everything they can

00:02:04.600 to prevent anybody that they even vaguely disagree with from giving a speech on campus. This began

00:02:10.060 in February. February 1st, the conservative provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos went to give a speech

00:02:16.460 at Berkeley. The funny thing about all this, I have seen Milo Yiannopoulos speak. I saw him at UCLA.

00:02:22.880 I wanted to hear what he had to say. I wanted to see the circus surrounding it. He doesn't have a

00:02:27.080 speech. There is no speech. He plays these people like a fiddle. A lot of people on the right do.

00:02:35.040 There isn't anything. Basically, what Milo did is he went up there, he bantered a little bit with

00:02:39.440 Dave Rubin, and then some screaming, hideous social justice warriors stood up, and Milo made fun of him

00:02:45.800 for a little bit. If they had just calmed down, there wouldn't have been a speech there.

00:02:49.920 When we're talking about more mainstream conservative thoughtful voices,

00:02:54.180 if they just allowed these people to talk on the topics that they want to talk about,

00:02:58.160 there would be no chaos. No one would pay attention. There wouldn't be national headlines,

00:03:02.140 but they simply can't do it. What did they do when Milo Yiannopoulos went to speak? Let's take a look.

00:03:06.820 Well, Anderson, what you're seeing behind me is quite a bit of commotion. This is an event at

00:03:16.180 Berkeley where Milo Yiannopoulos, who is known as an internet troll, a self-proclaimed internet troll,

00:03:24.580 a very provocative speaker, he was invited here to the campus. And you can see from the reaction,

00:03:30.320 I'm going to step out of the shot here. What is happening here is that these are student 1.00

00:03:35.260 protesters, some anarchists, from what I can gather, trying to breach the building right now.

00:03:44.940 They don't look like students to me. I don't know about you, but some of those guys

00:03:48.560 are in their 30s, I think. Yeah, they look like students. 0.68

00:03:51.240 That's true. It depends on the university, I guess. Maybe at Berkeley,

00:03:54.180 that's what students look like is just black clad terrorists. So in the aftermath of all this, 0.99

00:04:00.340 there was $100,000 of property damage. A Syrian Muslim was actually attacked by a protester who

00:04:06.240 said, quote, you look like a Nazi. Who knew? I certainly didn't know that. So then fast forward, 0.80

00:04:12.420 March 4th happens. There's a march for Trump. Lauren Southern was, oh, this was later. Lauren

00:04:17.320 Southern is supposed to speak in April. At the march for Trump, seven people were injured. April 15th,

00:04:22.220 Lauren Southern's supposed to speak. Antifa sets off bombs and fireworks. 11 people were injured

00:04:27.900 there. Six were hospitalized. One was stabbed. Then you fast forward to April 27th. Ann Coulter

00:04:34.240 was supposed to give a speech. UC Berkeley canceled it. They would not let her speak. They said,

00:04:38.540 we'll reschedule for a time when there are no students on campus. Ann Coulter, gotta love Ann,

00:04:43.740 says absolutely not. I'm going to go. I'm going to give a speech. She's not allowed in. Now, tomorrow,

00:04:49.780 Shapiro himself is heading into the thick of it all. And we can now bring on a guy who has been at

00:04:54.420 the center of all of this. UC Berkeley college Republican president, Bradley Devlin. Bradley,

00:05:00.340 you are doing God's work over there. Thanks for coming on. Hey, thanks for having me, Michael.

00:05:05.940 You know, I'll tell you, I was a college Republican president not too long ago,

00:05:09.940 back in the good old days of 2012. And, you know, I, I very, from time to time found myself

00:05:16.660 at the center of the left-wing vitriol on campus, but all in all, it wasn't that bad. I mean,

00:05:22.120 nothing like we're seeing here, certainly nothing like we're seeing at Berkeley. Uh, how are they

00:05:27.480 treating you over there? Oh, absolutely horrible. Um, it started, yeah, it's laughable almost because

00:05:35.500 this hysteria started long before Milo Yiannopoulos. It started when I wore my GOP

00:05:41.140 shirt for the first time on campus. And I was looked at and called a racist and a bigot by two

00:05:45.280 individuals who engaged in zero conversation. Um, I moved there on election night, the surprise

00:05:51.940 win of Donald Trump. My friend got punched in the face at a pizza parlor, uh, for expressing

00:05:57.080 excitement. People were in tears in my fraternity house as we watched the election. You're telling

00:06:01.820 me that guys in a fraternity were in tears that a Republic, I don't, I really don't understand

00:06:07.280 left-wing men. I kind of get left-wing women because women are more nurturing. They're probably 1.00

00:06:12.400 more compassionate than we knuckle-dragging men are, but you're telling me frat, frat boys were upset

00:06:18.040 that Donald Trump won? Well, this might shock you, but he worked for Pelosi over the summer. Um,

00:06:24.080 uh, yeah, yeah, there was, um, men and women just in absolute hysteria. Wow. And it, it escalated

00:06:33.020 from there. Milo came onto campus and this radicalization that happens in the Berkeley

00:06:37.680 area was bubbling up, um, underground and finally came to the surface. Finally, Milo gave them an

00:06:45.680 outlet to express their anger. And they did so with a bunch of college students locked in the second

00:06:50.680 story. You know, Milo is an interesting case there, I think, because he, unlike Shapiro or

00:06:57.380 Charles Murray or Ann Coulter, whoever Milo specifically doesn't seem to have very much to

00:07:02.520 say. And I don't even mean that as a knock on him. He himself describes himself as a performance artist

00:07:07.440 and provocateur and all that. Is there any hazard to associating ourselves with these kind of

00:07:14.980 provocateurs and carnival barkers, or do they, do they serve an important purpose right now

00:07:21.200 as the left humiliates itself time and time again? Well, I think Shapiro is filling that gap

00:07:28.720 perfectly. You don't need to bring someone who is a provocateur on campus to show the left's own

00:07:34.140 insanity. Um, Milo, when he panders to the alt-right or when Bannon panders to the alt-right and gives them

00:07:41.820 a legitimate platform, and the left does this as well when they call everyone alt-right. I mean,

00:07:46.480 they called Ben alt-right on the news a month ago. Um, when they call everyone alt-right,

00:07:51.360 it actually gives these people more of a platform. And associating conservatism with alt-right and the

00:07:55.880 unabashed tribalism that follows the alt-right is, uh, very, very dangerous for the conservative

00:08:01.320 movement. And we can't, we can't move forward in the Republican party, uh, without, without

00:08:06.440 differentiating between the two. And I've talked to a lot of these guys, you know, uh, Richard Spencer

00:08:13.040 and I had, uh, James Alsup on the show and people who are playing around with the alt-right. It seems

00:08:19.480 to me there are none of these people. It seems to me they are a really small minority. Obviously, it's 0.98

00:08:24.100 bad ideas and the bad ideas should be refuted. But Hillary Clinton, I think, wants to pretend that 1.00

00:08:29.120 half the country has suddenly gone Nazi. Do you think the alt-right has gained ground on college

00:08:34.820 campuses or is it all a bunch of nonsense? I think that when you label everyone as

00:08:41.460 deplorable, who believes a certain ideology, there's going to be people who fall into the

00:08:45.240 trap of, oh, the right fights against the scourge of political correctness. Therefore, I am

00:08:50.320 associated with the alt-right. I am an internet troll. I am a goofy kid who stays on Reddit and 4chan.

00:08:56.720 Yeah. I don't wear Brooks Brothers, but I voted for Trump. So I guess I'm on the alt-right.

00:09:00.400 Exactly. I can align myself with the alt-right easily because everyone labels me that. And that's

00:09:08.240 a very dangerous scenario because we're actually seeing individuals who can become good constitutional

00:09:13.760 conservatives to an ideology that associates your ethnicity with whatever creed you proclaim.

00:09:20.040 So are these protests, and by protests I mean riots that include tear gas and fires and things like

00:09:28.220 that, are they about the speeches or are they about something bigger, who gets to control who gives a

00:09:35.220 speech, or something larger? It is. It's definitely about groupthink. It's about a very Orwellian style

00:09:43.240 of thought that has taken over the mainstream left. There should be no reason that Brian Fallon,

00:09:49.920 Clinton's spokesman during the 2016 campaign, tweets a picture of allied soldiers invading Normandy and

00:09:56.580 say, left-wing demonstrators violating property by having no permit. These are completely different

00:10:05.060 scenarios. And it's repugnant of these individuals who are higher up in left mainstream media mainly

00:10:11.680 to not condemn Antifa and condemn this violence outright because apparently Antifa preaches tolerance

00:10:22.900 in all of these leftist ideologies, but in a very violent, fascistic way. This is very problematic.

00:10:27.520 I noticed, Bradley, I've looked for video clips of you setting fires and throwing garbage cans through

00:10:32.360 windows, and I haven't found any. And it makes me notice that we as conservatives, we don't protest their

00:10:39.200 speakers. Or even if we protest them, we don't shut them down. We don't bar them from entering

00:10:43.760 buildings. We don't create violence. What is it about the left and the right in America right now

00:10:48.620 that makes them resort to violence to shut us up and has us perfectly willing to let them have a platform?

00:10:56.820 I think it actually can be traced back to the left's ideology of creating the state as basically your

00:11:03.300 church, as your religion. And anyone who believes that the state is fallible, that individual communities

00:11:09.500 and individual rights matter more than an authoritarian state, they find that as an assault

00:11:15.840 on their themselves and on their ideology that must be combated with violence and absolutely

00:11:21.480 quash dissenters, essentially.

00:11:23.980 Absolutely right. The fetishization of government or the replacement of what we used to have as the

00:11:31.980 foundation of our civilization and our society with the state, it does seem that they've become quite

00:11:37.700 tribal. What do you make of this? Berkeley was the beginning of the free speech movement, FSM in the

00:11:43.760 1960s. Now they're the opposite of the free speech movement. Is there some bizarre change that's

00:11:49.580 happened? Or even in that free speech movement, was it similarly a bit of a misnomer and really just a

00:11:56.840 way to advance left-wing goals such as protesting the Vietnam War?

00:12:03.140 Well, yeah, I actually have this Shapiro Antifa poster that I wanted to show you.

00:12:08.840 Let's see it.

00:12:09.560 This is the free speech movement in 1964 and in 2016. So it's a bunch of cops and riot here in 2016 that

00:12:17.540 apparently guard fascists.

00:12:18.940 Amazing.

00:12:19.320 Yeah, it's absolutely incredible. No, the free speech movement was, yes, to establish free speech

00:12:25.120 for individuals who believed Marxist ideologies in the 60s. But nonetheless, they were able to

00:12:30.800 espouse their views on college campuses. And now we're receiving that same pushback by a liberal

00:12:36.940 administration in the present. And the reason that we filed a lawsuit against the University of

00:12:43.860 California, Berkeley, the Young America's Foundation in coordination with Berkeley College

00:12:47.900 Republicans is that they have created policies that they apply to restrict conservative ideologies

00:12:55.780 and speeches on campus. This is a violation of due process of our constitutional rights of free speech

00:13:01.580 and equal protection under the law. These are incredibly problematic when you are thinking about

00:13:08.640 it in the long term. What if in the future, it's the liberals who are suppressed by a conservative?

00:13:13.940 Of course.

00:13:14.720 And that's what I always bring up to liberal students who ask me, why are you suing the

00:13:18.240 school? Why are you creating this litigation that's going to waste taxpayer dollars? And I

00:13:23.440 always have to retort with, well, what if you were in this scenario? What if you were locked in

00:13:27.400 a second story of a ballroom with M80 fireworks being thrown at you? What if your friends were

00:13:32.140 assaulted daily on campus?

00:13:33.400 Well, it's hard to have, I'm sorry, go ahead.

00:13:35.480 But they always, they always nod their head and they reciprocate and they usually sign up for

00:13:40.160 a mailing list. Our, we are one of the biggest political organizations on campus. We have over

00:13:44.020 14,000 individuals, or 1,400 individuals, sorry, interested, but only a hundred come to our

00:13:49.220 meetings. And that's what the left has done. They've made conservatives incredibly ticked.

00:13:53.360 Well, that's better than us. Yale, I think we had about 11 members. We were the most written about

00:13:57.300 10 person club on campus. But that is really good work that you're doing, Bradley. So I appreciate it.

00:14:04.120 Stay safe out there. Don't give those left-wing thugs an inch tomorrow and keep up the good work.

00:14:09.500 You're doing a great job.

00:14:11.060 Thank you very much, Michael.

00:14:12.180 Now it is time to bring on our all-female panel of deplorables. Bradley, he's a good-looking guy. 1.00

00:14:18.320 He cleans up well, but we got to get him out of here. So we can have an all-female panel of 1.00

00:14:21.900 deplorables. Excited today to introduce Ariel Davidson from the Hoover Institution. We have Cassie

00:14:26.760 Dylan, and we have the blazes, Allie Stuckey. Ladies, thank you for coming on. 0.99

00:14:31.360 Thanks for having me.

00:14:32.640 We'll begin with the most important news out of YouTube. A vicious criminal rapper named

00:14:37.840 XXXTentacion just released a music video, if one can call it that, comparing the killing of

00:14:44.000 Michael Brown, himself a criminal who reached for an officer's gun, to the killing of Emmett Till,

00:14:48.720 an innocent 14-year-old boy who was lynched in 1955. The video shows the rapper placing a noose

00:14:53.700 around a little white kid's neck, ostensibly to make some sort of point. XXXTentacion himself

00:14:58.980 was arrested last October for false imprisonment, witness tampering, and aggravated battery of a

00:15:04.500 pregnant victim. His arrest report reads, quote, defendant punched and kicked victim. Victims'

00:15:09.780 both eyes were punched to where both eyes became shut and victim could not see. A hoodie and

00:15:14.720 sunglasses were put on the victim in order to get her out of the apartment complex, avoiding anyone

00:15:20.320 seeing her. Victims escaped from a new location and contacted the nearest police department.

00:15:25.400 All of that is background on this video. Do we have a copy of the video?

00:15:29.740 Just like the Brandenburg Concerto, isn't it? Ariel, this criminal possesses no musical talent,

00:15:59.360 and he beats up pregnant women. Why does this video have five and a half million views already? 0.56

00:16:05.960 Well, my first guess would be that this is something that sort of feeds into the identity

00:16:13.200 politics intersection of sort of crazy, radical production of media. So I'm thinking, I know it's

00:16:20.640 a longer sentence than I intended, but basically I'm thinking of like Kathy Griffin-esque type cry for

00:16:26.880 attention. So whenever you produce media that's extremely controversial or violent or at all sort

00:16:34.220 of makes people wince, you're immediately going to get the viewership that you're looking for.

00:16:39.080 So if you're someone that's incredibly untalented, this might be a wonderful tactic in order to get 1.00

00:16:44.360 people to pay attention to you. I think that, you know, someone like Kathy Griffin, whose career was

00:16:49.680 sliding down the tube, it was great for her to hold up a head of Trump in order to garner more 1.00

00:16:57.460 attention than she might get on pure talent alone. So, you know, this to me just signals this person's

00:17:02.460 probably not worth my time just because they're probably extremely untalented. And this is a way

00:17:07.040 for them to get attention. It's grotesque. It's disgusting. It's despicable. But this is how,

00:17:13.060 you know, this is how at least modern media is going about ways of, you know, if they don't have

00:17:18.620 talent, this is how they're going to do it. Well, thank you for the advice on modern media. Note to

00:17:21.860 self, murder marshal on the air. Whoa. Cassie, he is going to trial this guy, XXX, whatever his name

00:17:33.040 is. He's going to trial on October 5th for beating up a pregnant woman. What is a just punishment for

00:17:38.440 someone who beats up pregnant ladies? Well, it depends. Are you somebody who believes a child 1.00

00:17:45.400 in the womb is a life or not? Because if it is a life in the womb, then you should be tried first, 1.00

00:17:50.380 all battery, and two different people. Honestly, he's one of the, probably the worst people who are

00:17:55.400 alive right now. It's completely insane that he did that. And I think you're right, Ariel, 0.83

00:17:59.180 that he's just trying to save his failing career. And by doing so, he's also in the same group of

00:18:04.140 people that call Donald Trump very divisive. And then he can make a video like this and just makes

00:18:09.080 it even more divisive. So good for him. And I hope this video somehow distracts from his trial, which

00:18:14.500 it's not good. And I'm sure in our criminal justice system, which pays little attention to justice,

00:18:19.260 I'm sure he'll be put into some rehabilitation program or something like that. Allie, where does

00:18:24.740 this terrible culture come from? CNN's Don Lemon says that specifically among young black men from ages 18 to

00:18:33.380 25, it's because they grew up without fathers. 72% of black babies today are born out of wedlock.

00:18:40.200 Now, Don Lemon's wrong about everything else. So he may as well be about this. Why is, where is this

00:18:45.340 terrible culture coming from? Yeah, I mean, it's a little bit tough to speculate because there's evil,

00:18:52.100 you know, across the races and across the political spectrum. I think Ariel was right on point when she

00:18:57.260 said that this is just a product of identity politics and also a product of a lack of talent.

00:19:02.020 I think that intersection explains very well why this video exists. But yes, of course,

00:19:07.960 anyone's background has something to do with how they deal with certain political or cultural

00:19:13.180 circumstances. He is choosing to make a false equivalency between two things that are not

00:19:21.460 historically parallel whatsoever, just in order to get attention. Unfortunately, we see this a lot

00:19:27.900 on the left of making parallels, for example, comparing illegal immigrants to slaves, saying

00:19:34.180 that it's the exact same thing and that we should legalize them in the same way. It's not the same

00:19:38.360 at all. But if you conflate two ideas, knowing the emotional response that it's going to get,

00:19:44.620 then you trick people into thinking that they are being successful social justice warriors

00:19:51.000 simply by telling history incorrectly. And that's what he's choosing to do.

00:19:56.820 Unfortunately, it might be just as effective as he wants it to be.

00:20:00.280 Apparently it is. We're talking about it. And we want to talk about a lot more things. But

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00:20:49.440 Speaking of race relations, Swedish YouTube superstar PewDiePie is in trouble for saying

00:21:02.920 the N-word on one of his videos. Here is his apology.

00:21:06.060 It was something that I said in the heat of the moment. I said the worst word I could possibly

00:21:12.600 think of and it just sort of slipped out. And I'm not going to make any excuses to why it did

00:21:19.000 because there are no excuses for it. I'm disappointed in myself because it seems like

00:21:24.080 I've learned nothing from all these past controversies. Ariel, similar question to what

00:21:29.460 we just asked Ali, but in a totally different cultural sphere. This guy became famous for

00:21:34.840 making videos of himself playing video games, which seems like the most boring thing ever.

00:21:40.680 Why does PewDiePie have over 57 million subscribers?

00:21:46.600 Well, I think, you know, I had to do a bit of research on him myself. I've heard of him,

00:21:51.220 but I was curious why he has, he does have almost 60 million subscribers. People love

00:21:56.900 watching his videos. And it's not just about video games. He's someone that delivers heightened

00:22:02.020 commentary. He talks about the news of the day. He actually did a segment on the gender wage gap.

00:22:07.760 So this is, you know, a person that is, it's about video games, maybe at the kernel, but there's more

00:22:12.900 to it beyond that. So he's somebody that's sort of tapped into the younger generation's thirst for

00:22:19.380 content. And he produces it at a rapid pace. I mean, every day, his day consists of producing this

00:22:24.780 content. Um, you know, I applaud him for going on there and being very open with his viewership

00:22:30.780 and apologizing. I believe the apology video had almost 6 million views. Uh, so good for him for

00:22:36.580 doing that. Uh, I think, you know, it was necessary to do that. He's been sort of embroiled in past

00:22:41.860 conflicts. Um, and at least involving like Nazi slurs of some kind. I, I not really sure what else

00:22:48.800 he's been involved in. Uh, but I do applaud him for doing that. Those are pretty big ones, I guess.

00:22:53.040 Right. Yeah. I, he's, he's been involved in some other ones as well. Um, but I, like I said,

00:22:57.320 I do applaud him for going on and being very open with his viewers and saying, you know, I screwed up

00:23:02.000 and I'm incredibly sorry. He has a major influence in terms of, um, how large his viewership is. It's

00:23:10.080 global. Uh, and again, he's tapping into the millennial thirst for content and YouTube is, has,

00:23:16.600 you know, it's, it's given him a tremendous amount of fame. Uh, and it's also given him an

00:23:21.400 incredible income too. I mean, he's earning tens of millions of dollars a year, uh, doing this gig

00:23:26.260 and he was originally a hot dog. So, uh, I actually didn't know that that is, uh, this guy makes over

00:23:32.060 $10 million a year. That is, that really makes me rethink my life choices. Even, even blank book

00:23:38.920 included that we don't make that kind of money on blank books. Allie, is it ever appropriate for a

00:23:44.000 white guy to use that word as an insult or even in common speech? Oh, absolutely not. Um, however,

00:23:51.460 I will say that the conflicts and kind of the chaos that we have found PewDiePie embroiled in

00:23:56.720 in the past, I've been following him for a while and I really liked him. I don't even like video

00:24:01.140 games. Um, but I will say that the chaos that we've kind of seen him in the midst of in the past

00:24:05.720 has been reporters that have gone after him because they don't like the fact. I think that he,

00:24:12.240 one is not outwardly liberal or doesn't fit into their narrative. And two has made tens of million

00:24:19.400 dollars of dollars off of not being an expert of anything. I think journalists don't like that.

00:24:24.880 I've only made tens of dollars out of not being an expert on anything. I've got, he's doing something

00:24:28.660 right. I'm here. Um, and I think that, uh, traditional media and traditional journalists don't

00:24:35.440 like these kinds of people that have such big influence and didn't do things the right way and

00:24:40.520 don't say things the right way. So do I think that what he said was wrong? Absolutely. But I do

00:24:46.260 want to take it with a grain of salt because last time they went after him from a random obscure

00:24:52.340 reference that he had already denounced of Nazis. That wasn't even really a reference to Nazis.

00:24:58.800 And this time, yes, it was pretty explicit. He shouldn't have said it, but I mean, there's

00:25:03.340 conversations about taking down his videos and demonetizing what he's doing and making sure

00:25:08.480 that video games don't partner with him anymore. And to the last conversation that we just had

00:25:13.360 of that horrible rapper and everything he was saying, are we seeing the same kind of pushback

00:25:17.900 there? I, I don't know. No, it seems like a double standard to me. Should he have said it? No.

00:25:24.220 But should he be demonetized and stripped of his influence because of that? No.

00:25:30.260 Cassie, is this a question of political correctness or is this just simply about manners and politeness?

00:25:36.220 I think this is about manners and politeness in this case. I think what he said was wrong. I think

00:25:42.060 there's no need for him to say that. I think he was playing video games and just said,

00:25:46.300 maybe forgot that he was taking a video of himself and said something that he shouldn't have said.

00:25:50.840 But I do think that he is kind of like an edgier person. So that makes the media watch him very

00:25:56.960 closely. And I think here we should just let the free market play and just let people who disagree with

00:26:01.740 what he said to unfollow him, unsubscribe. That's what's going to ultimately get rid of his mass

00:26:06.920 wealth that he's getting from playing video games on YouTube. I guess even if he loses everything now,

00:26:11.640 he could retire like two or three times over. So good on the guy. Good on him for apologizing.

00:26:17.780 Apparently left-wing criminals have vandalized New York City's famous Central Park statue

00:26:22.800 of Christopher Columbus. After Mayor Bill de Blasio, the Bolshevik on Bowery, suggested the city 0.62

00:26:28.260 might include it in a list of offensive statues set for removal. How do we fight these bullies

00:26:35.880 who are going to take what they want, democracy, or rule of law be damned? Ariel.

00:26:43.700 How are we going to fight them? That's a big question. Well, I think we, you know, we, we appeal

00:26:48.400 to the people who realize, or maybe haven't spoken out yet about how sort of crazy this is. I think

00:26:54.020 there are plenty of people on the left side of the spectrum who think that this sort of crusade

00:26:59.360 against the statues is absurd. I think that there are plenty of people in the center who would agree

00:27:04.140 with that. So my, you know, my best tactic, at least in conversation, has been to take the leftist

00:27:10.860 logic to its logical conclusion. And so I say, okay, great. Let's, let's say we'll get rid of any

00:27:16.860 semblance of Christopher Columbus. We'll take away Columbus Day as a holiday. We should probably get

00:27:21.840 rid of Columbus Circle. We'll ban meatball hoagies. Right. We'll get rid of the District of Columbia. 1.00

00:27:29.260 We should probably rename that too. And then let's go further. Kyle Smith at National Review had a

00:27:34.600 great point. He, he pointed out the District of Columbia, but he also said something about how the

00:27:39.860 Duke of York, James II, was very heavily involved in the slave trade. Okay. So we have to rename the

00:27:45.880 state of New York. We should probably start off with the city as well. So you start to see how this

00:27:51.160 kind of cascades into an erasure. You know, America Vespucci, after whom America is named,

00:27:57.140 he was an Italian. And I don't know if you've studied what the Italians did to Carthage,

00:28:01.280 but it's absolutely despicable. And we have to rename the continent too.

00:28:06.940 Absolutely. We should. And so that, and my point being here is that, you know,

00:28:10.280 American history is not, it's a beautiful thing, but it's also a very bloody thing. And we have a lot of 0.98

00:28:15.480 times in our history where we've done horrible things. And I say we, as a collective,

00:28:19.700 you know, nation historically in the past, not we, us personally. But we have to be very careful

00:28:25.680 about when we, we go about destroying any semblance of American history, because we're attempting to

00:28:30.840 erase it. And for better, for worse, those things did happen. And, and, and there were some really

00:28:35.900 horrible things that happened, but getting rid of statues is not necessarily about it.

00:28:40.800 Nobody ever talks about the good things that Christopher, they always talk about the worst.

00:28:45.040 They don't talk about the better, the things that came from Christopher Columbus. This issue bothers

00:28:49.780 me so much because it's so ungrateful and historically ignorant. Without Christopher Columbus, 0.92

00:28:56.240 without that guy's courage, none of us would be here today. Without that guy's courage and his gumption

00:29:01.220 to get Spain to pay the tab for his trip, a very Italian thing to do to get the other guy to pay for it.

00:29:06.700 Without that, America, which has been the greatest national force for good in the history of the world,

00:29:11.800 for ourselves and for everyone else on earth, would not exist. We owe it to that man.

00:29:17.560 Ali, where does this culture of willful ignorance and ingratitude come from? Is it endemic to our

00:29:25.520 times right now? Or are conservatives blowing it out of proportion? Is it sort of always this way?

00:29:30.540 Is there nothing new here?

00:29:33.100 I think social media actually plays a really huge part in all of this, just creating the ideological

00:29:38.400 echo chambers that we have and not being able to separate facts from feeling. I mean, that's pretty

00:29:43.320 much what Twitter is. It's just an entire feed of how people feel. And unfortunately, that's where

00:29:49.900 the majority of people get their information. And I think that has a lot to do with it with a lazy

00:29:55.440 populace that would rather believe what they already feel and kind of feed into their own preconceived

00:30:00.960 notions of how they think the world works, rather than be brushed up against or inconvenienced by facts

00:30:06.900 and research. And because that kind of emotional rhetoric is so easily available to us via social

00:30:14.320 media and even is created by an algorithm to only feed us the things that we already think and feel,

00:30:20.920 unfortunately, people have to go out of their way to understand what is true, what is not,

00:30:26.860 and to be challenged in their preconceived notions. And I think people just don't want to do that when

00:30:31.900 it's so easy to believe what you want to believe. That's so true. The hysteria that comes from being

00:30:38.600 constantly fed your own opinions. Facebook will not feed me everyday feminism articles, which is my 0.98

00:30:43.980 favorite website on the internet, but it won't feed them because it thinks that I disagree with what

00:30:48.460 must be a conservative satire site. Cassie, where does it end? Was President Trump correct? Will this end

00:30:55.900 with us knocking down the Washington Monument? I think we need to find a middle ground. Now,

00:31:01.740 if people want to remove statues from their own local community, that's fine. As long as they're

00:31:06.140 going through the process to remove it, asking the city council, talking to whoever's the board of

00:31:10.260 trustees of the park or whatever, whatever the statue is, but going and vandalizing a statue in a

00:31:15.220 public place is wrong. It's a crime. It's criminal and it shouldn't happen. I think that, like you said

00:31:20.640 earlier, we'd have to rename a lot of things. I think what we should do instead is call out the people in

00:31:25.260 history who have done bad things, but also talk about the good things they've done too, because

00:31:28.960 everybody has done good and bad, and we should look at both sides. Other than Hitler. I mean, 0.93

00:31:33.440 I don't know if Hitler did that many good. I don't know. I guess he was an okay painter. He's a very 0.93

00:31:36.680 mediocre painter. But your point is absolutely well taken. We've swung so far in this other direction

00:31:42.400 that all you ever hear about is what a bad guy Christopher Columbus was, this Howard Zinn form of

00:31:47.960 American history where everything we ever did is terrible, and you don't focus on the greatest force for

00:31:52.780 national good in the history of the entire world. Okay, ladies, thank you for being here, especially

00:31:57.900 you, Ariel Davidson, your first time. Also, Allie Stuckey and Cassie Dillon. Can't wait to have you

00:32:03.100 back. And now it is time for the final thought.

00:32:10.380 The left-wing violence erupting on college campuses has nothing to do with what conservative

00:32:15.360 speakers have to say. It has everything to do with who controls what they, and therefore

00:32:20.480 you, are allowed to say. There is no alt-left. There's just the left, which has followed its

00:32:27.080 bankrupt ideas to their logical conclusions, and now, bereft of the civilized argument that

00:32:33.280 defines human society and the reason that defines humanity itself, is left only to grunt and scream like

00:32:39.360 the animals that their destructive ideas have made them become. Chesterton wrote,

00:32:43.680 There is a thought that stops thought, and that is the only thought that ought to be stopped.

00:32:47.740 Let's wish Ben good luck in his speech and hope that the thought that stops thought doesn't stop

00:32:52.260 him first. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show. Come back tomorrow. Get your

00:32:55.820 mailbag questions in. We'll do it all again.

00:33:13.680 Thank you.

The Michael Knowles Show - September 13, 2017

Ep. 26 - The Battle of Berkeley ft. College Republican Pres. Bradley Devlin

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