The Michael Knowles Show - January 09, 2019


Ep. 277 - Why Don’t Responses Ever Work？


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In the wake of President Trump's Oval Office speech on immigration and border security, some conservatives are criticizing him for being too "gory" and others are praising him for not being "grievous." What's the difference between the two?

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00:00:30.500 Chuck and Nancy get memed for their American Gothic response
00:00:34.040 to President Trump's Oval Office speech.
00:00:35.880 We will analyze why responses to presidential addresses never, ever, ever work.
00:00:41.600 Then Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez responds to the responders.
00:00:46.180 President Trump gives the speech itself.
00:00:48.060 You don't want to forget about that.
00:00:49.280 And Kellyanne Conway roasts Jim Acosta.
00:00:52.300 Finally, the American Psychological Association declares masculinity harmful.
00:00:57.680 What a bunch of wimps.
00:00:58.760 All of that and more.
00:01:00.200 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:01:02.040 All right, there's only one news story today, and that would be the Oval Office speech,
00:01:13.500 or really, I guess it would be the response to the Oval Office speech,
00:01:17.400 the response to the responders in the memes on Twitter,
00:01:20.060 the response to the responders to the responders on MSNBC, in AOC.
00:01:23.580 We'll get to all of that.
00:01:24.500 Let's cover the speech first.
00:01:25.580 How did President Trump do?
00:01:28.660 First of all, we got full entertainment last night.
00:01:31.880 We got exactly what we came for.
00:01:34.000 We elected the reality TV show host.
00:01:36.440 We are getting a perfect night of television.
00:01:39.040 We got all of the drama from President Trump.
00:01:41.860 We then got a lot of farcical comedy, probably unintentional comedy,
00:01:46.380 from Chuck and Nancy, Schumer and Pelosi.
00:01:49.020 So how did Trump himself do in the speech?
00:01:52.840 I thought he did quite well.
00:01:55.700 Some conservatives think that he was too dramatic here.
00:01:58.420 This is the big divide today in response to the speech among conservatives.
00:02:03.100 Was he too dramatic?
00:02:04.100 Was he too gory?
00:02:04.960 Was he too gruesome?
00:02:06.340 Or did he hit it right?
00:02:08.540 Now, that group of conservatives, who broadly are the ones who are always criticizing Trump,
00:02:12.880 or they were never Trump during the election,
00:02:14.780 they're criticizing President Trump for being too gruesome,
00:02:18.040 talking about sexual assaults at the border,
00:02:20.640 talking about the crimes of illegal aliens, 0.56
00:02:22.700 talking about people whose children were killed by illegal aliens.
00:02:26.080 What those conservatives who are criticizing him for that want
00:02:29.940 is they wish that he was just talking about dollars and cents.
00:02:33.780 What they wish is that President Trump went out into the Oval Office speech last night
00:02:38.080 and he was the reasonable guy.
00:02:40.760 Hey, guys, come on.
00:02:42.060 It's not that big a deal.
00:02:43.160 Well, the border's not very expensive.
00:02:45.420 He's only asking $5 billion.
00:02:47.180 And look, we spend money on all these kind of other crazy things.
00:02:50.420 We spend millions of dollars to study shrimp on treadmills.
00:02:54.180 We spend millions of dollars to study lesbian obesity. 1.00
00:02:57.480 Come on.
00:02:57.820 It's only a very small portion of money.
00:02:59.960 It's not that big a deal.
00:03:01.300 And it's just about dollars and cents.
00:03:03.040 And come on, guys, come around to it.
00:03:04.900 I would call that group the fiscal first conservatives.
00:03:08.140 They're judging their political views and the conservative movement from the perspective of dollars and cents, basically.
00:03:16.240 This is contrasted with another group, which is the cultural conservatives.
00:03:20.320 And I would count myself in the latter group.
00:03:22.320 The cultural conservatives are the ones who are saying this isn't about dollars and cents.
00:03:26.360 This isn't about being a reasonable guy.
00:03:28.060 You know, and I'm sorry, it is about being the reasonable guy, but it's not about always appearing to be the most pleasant, the least offensive.
00:03:36.980 It's not about that.
00:03:37.900 It's about gut issues.
00:03:39.520 The reason that we need to deal with the border is not just because of some bland statistics or because of the cost of the wall or whatever.
00:03:47.120 It's because we're a country and we have the right to be a country and we have the right to defend our country.
00:03:53.000 Every other country in history has done it.
00:03:54.920 We should do it, too.
00:03:56.180 Real people are being hurt by this.
00:03:58.480 Real people are being hurt by drugs pouring in, by gangsters, by sexual assaults on the border, all of those things.
00:04:05.960 First of all, to begin, President Trump is the cultural figure.
00:04:09.820 He comes out of the culture.
00:04:10.960 He's a TV guy.
00:04:12.340 He's been in the pop culture since at least the 80s.
00:04:15.280 I was playing Trump the board game, which came out in 1989.
00:04:18.600 I was playing that over the weekend with friends.
00:04:20.480 He's been this cultural maven.
00:04:21.840 So he's always going to be that guy.
00:04:23.800 He's not ever going to become some policy wonk.
00:04:26.080 He's not Mitch Daniels.
00:04:27.400 I like Mitch Daniels, too, but he's just not that guy who's going to be a wonk about all these different lines of the budget or something like that.
00:04:36.480 Isn't going to happen.
00:04:38.000 But in this debate between the fiscal first conservatives and the cultural conservatives, the cultural conservatives are right,
00:04:43.780 which is why they're getting this speech right as well.
00:04:49.740 Conservatism.
00:04:50.220 We talked about this a little bit yesterday when we mentioned Russell Kirk.
00:04:54.120 Conservatism is not primarily about dollars and cents.
00:04:58.160 There's a kind of, it's part of the conservative movement, and especially you see this among college kids,
00:05:04.340 the young Republican type with the Brooks Brothers tie who goes to whatever political dinners and things like that.
00:05:10.580 You see that really about among him.
00:05:12.820 He's the one who's saying, let's not talk about cultural issues.
00:05:15.420 Let's just talk about dollars and cents, the economy.
00:05:18.480 Let's only talk about fiscal and financial questions.
00:05:23.120 Conservatism is not primarily about that.
00:05:25.400 It's not primarily about making a profit.
00:05:28.340 Conservatism, in the Russell Kirk understanding of it, is actually primarily about loss.
00:05:33.740 It's about what we've lost in our society.
00:05:35.660 It's about how we, even as we do gain, in many ways, profit, we're losing some of our culture.
00:05:43.680 We're losing some of our spirit.
00:05:45.280 We're losing some of the things that matter much more than just base material goods.
00:05:50.440 There are metaphysical goods that really count too.
00:05:53.220 This is the Andrew Breitbart idea of things.
00:05:55.660 Politics is downstream of culture.
00:05:57.620 St. Andrew Breitbart, the patron saint of Hollywood conservatives.
00:06:01.240 First conservatives, again, with that group of fiscal first conservatives, you see it a lot of times they'll say, enough with the culture war.
00:06:08.960 If we would only stop the culture war, get out of cultural issues, then we would win every single election.
00:06:17.020 Outside of cultural issues, everything else is bean counting.
00:06:21.400 This is not to say that we shouldn't lower taxes.
00:06:23.800 This is not to say that we shouldn't reform entitlements.
00:06:25.500 We have to do all of those things, but that is bean counting if you don't couch it in a cultural and moral argument, and that's what President Trump was doing last night.
00:06:35.180 It would have been a huge mistake if he went out there and just talked about how the wall wasn't that expensive, and come on, it's not that big a deal, everybody, and let's just do it and move on.
00:06:43.820 That's not what this is about.
00:06:44.920 The this-isn't-that-big-a-deal argument falls flat when you have Democrats constantly telling you this is the biggest deal in the world.
00:06:53.000 You know, in politics, just like in war, your opponent gets a say, your adversary gets a say about it, and they're saying it's a huge deal.
00:07:00.780 Therefore, it is a huge deal.
00:07:02.680 It's a big deal to them.
00:07:04.100 It's a big deal to the left.
00:07:05.340 Why?
00:07:05.980 Not because of $5 billion here or there.
00:07:08.460 They'll spend $5 billion willy-nilly.
00:07:10.260 It's a big deal to them because it cuts to the heart of their agenda, which is open borders, which is tearing down traditional culture and American traditions, which is essentially anti-Americanism and anti-Westernism.
00:07:24.440 That's their issue.
00:07:26.940 And so it's not about a $5 billion, few hundred miles of a border wall.
00:07:30.880 It's about the momentum.
00:07:32.200 It's about what direction that's going in.
00:07:33.940 It's about what message that's sending, which is, is America going to protect itself, stand up, love itself, keep being America, or are we going to give up on that?
00:07:44.780 That's why the stakes are so high.
00:07:46.420 The argument for the border wall is not that the border wall is inexpensive.
00:07:50.760 Who cares?
00:07:51.740 Who cares if the border wall is expensive?
00:07:53.900 If the border wall, if the section of the wall they wanted to build in this budget, if it cost $20 billion, would that change anyone's position on it?
00:08:02.340 Let's say it cost $50 billion.
00:08:04.260 Would it change anyone's position on it?
00:08:05.920 No.
00:08:06.560 No way.
00:08:07.740 The argument is we're a country.
00:08:09.620 We get to be a country.
00:08:10.760 We don't want all these drugs pouring in.
00:08:13.060 For the first time now in, well, I guess the second year in a row, but the first time in 50 years, the average life expectancy of Americans is decreasing because of all these drug overdoses and because of a malaise, a spiritual malaise that's hit the country and led to an epidemic of suicide.
00:08:30.180 That's what it's about.
00:08:31.140 It's about the real Americans whose kids are dead because illegal aliens killed them. 0.93
00:08:37.620 We'll go through some of the statistics.
00:08:40.440 We'll go through some of the responses to Democrat arguments in just a minute.
00:08:44.120 But we should get off of this argument that the argument for the wall is that it's just not that expensive.
00:08:50.320 Who cares?
00:08:51.180 It's about something so much deeper and you're not going to convince anybody on dollars and cents.
00:08:56.040 This is why Mitt Romney couldn't become president and never will become president is because you can't campaign for the presidency and say, I should win the presidency at a time of great cultural gravity because I'm a better manager.
00:09:10.760 Who cares?
00:09:12.120 That's not what we're talking about.
00:09:13.780 We don't I don't care if you're going to be slightly more efficient manager than the other guy.
00:09:18.260 We're talking about ideas.
00:09:19.960 We're not talking about efficiency.
00:09:21.500 So let's get to the speech itself.
00:09:23.120 Here is part of the where the real disagreement comes up, where the fiscal first conservatives are saying he went way too far, was focusing in on crime and rape.
00:09:33.800 Last month, 20,000 migrant children were illegally brought into the United States, a dramatic increase.
00:09:42.900 These children are used as human pawns by vicious coyotes and ruthless gangs.
00:09:49.800 One in three women are sexually assaulted on the dangerous trek up through Mexico.
00:09:55.940 Women or children are the biggest victims by far of our broken system. 0.90
00:10:01.580 This is the tragic reality of illegal immigration on our southern border.
00:10:08.180 This is the right tone.
00:10:10.020 Obviously, President Trump is better off script.
00:10:12.340 He does better at his rallies.
00:10:13.480 He does better when he's improvising.
00:10:15.420 He's ad-libbing.
00:10:16.420 But this was pretty good.
00:10:17.500 I mean, it was ably delivered.
00:10:18.680 It was very well written.
00:10:20.000 He delivered it without any big mistakes.
00:10:21.960 I thought it went pretty well.
00:10:22.880 You knew he was reading from a prompter, but presidents are always reading from teleprompters in these speeches.
00:10:27.580 So I didn't think that was a big deal.
00:10:28.800 Well, as for the statistic, he said one in three women are raped crossing the border from Mexico into the U.S.
00:10:36.480 He actually could have used a bigger statistic than that.
00:10:40.720 There are studies out from Fusion and Amnesty International which show that 60 to 80 percent of women and girls are raped crossing that border illegally.
00:10:49.920 This wasn't reported in some right-wing outlet.
00:10:52.140 This was reported in the Huffington Post.
00:10:53.860 So I felt he should have used that statistic.
00:10:56.780 But again, it's very hard to have reliable statistics on a degree of crime that is so hidden from public view.
00:11:06.200 Still, I felt he should have gone whole hog and used even the more powerful statistics which are backed up by left-wing sources.
00:11:13.260 So you couldn't even have left-wingers arguing with them.
00:11:15.880 Then he goes on and talks about those who have been victimized by illegal aliens.
00:11:20.840 The only thing that is immoral is the politicians to do nothing and continue to allow more innocent people to be so horribly victimized.
00:11:32.580 America's heart broke the day after Christmas when a young police officer in California was savagely murdered in cold blood by an illegal alien who just came across the border.
00:11:46.460 The life of an American hero was stolen by someone who had no right to be in our country. 0.99
00:11:53.740 Day after day, precious lives are cut short by those who have violated our borders.
00:12:00.100 This is pretty brutal stuff.
00:12:26.860 I mean, it's – you've never heard a president talk about these sorts of things from the Oval Office.
00:12:34.180 You've never heard – after 9-11, President Bush spoke in very strong terms, but he didn't speak in such graphic terms.
00:12:41.760 President Trump is speaking in these graphic, gruesome terms, talking about beheading.
00:12:46.780 And some people fairly enough say, I don't want to hear this from the Oval Office.
00:12:51.440 I'm with you. I agree.
00:12:53.220 In my ideal politics, we would not have these sort of things said in speeches to the nation from the Oval Office.
00:13:00.320 In my ideal politics, when you're giving a speech to an audience that includes children, old women, whatever, you're not going to use this kind of imagery.
00:13:09.520 However, we're not living in my ideal politics.
00:13:13.800 In my ideal politics, the very fact of these beheadings, the very fact of these rapes, the very fact of these drugs pouring in across the border would be enough to compel Democrats, half of the country, to enhance border security, to build a wall, to stop people from doing this, to deport gang members.
00:13:32.320 In my ideal politics, in any reasonable politics, that would happen.
00:13:36.940 But it's not happening.
00:13:38.600 In fact, in the reasonable politics of less than 10 years ago, Democrats agreed that we could do that.
00:13:44.960 Various Democrats actually voted for portions of the wall.
00:13:48.660 But we don't live in that ideal politics.
00:13:50.960 And this is the trouble.
00:13:52.380 In politics, as in war, your opponent gets a say.
00:13:56.140 Your adversary gets a say.
00:13:57.620 And so you've got to react in real time.
00:13:59.180 It's where I really lose patience with those Trump critics on the right who say, well, in my imaginary world, things would be so much better.
00:14:06.820 And I would never say these mean things.
00:14:08.340 And I would never get down in the mud.
00:14:09.940 Right.
00:14:10.240 But we don't live in your imaginary fantasy world.
00:14:12.260 We live in reality.
00:14:13.620 And the reality is that if Democrats are going to degrade the country in such a way and degrade our politics in such a way that this kind of graphic imagery, this kind of vulgarity that they're always spewing is commonplace, we must meet them where they are.
00:14:28.580 We must fight them where they are.
00:14:30.780 We must respond to attacks where they come in.
00:14:32.880 And we must attack them where they're vulnerable.
00:14:34.760 That's the culture.
00:14:35.540 That's the politics.
00:14:36.740 Politics is a practical science.
00:14:39.360 It's not theoretical.
00:14:40.920 It's not strictly philosophical.
00:14:42.860 It is reality.
00:14:44.280 Politics is the affairs between men.
00:14:46.860 And so you've got half of the country wearing simulacra of genitalia on their heads, shrieking mother effer this and mother effer that.
00:14:53.820 An incoming new member of Congress, Rashida Tlaib, saying we're going to impeach the mother effer in public, referring to the president of the United States.
00:15:01.980 Unfortunately, when you're in that disgusting culture, you've got to deal with it in reality.
00:15:06.800 And if the difference is, if the two options are President Trump sitting there and talking about how $5 billion won't impact the federal budget at all because the entire debt and deficit is driven by entitlements and Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.
00:15:21.420 If that's one option and then the other option is they're using disgusting graphic imagery to talk about why the wall is wrong.
00:15:28.100 I'm going to use it to explain true imagery, to explain why it's right because people are being beheaded, people are being killed by drugs, people are being raped.
00:15:36.180 That is what we have to do.
00:15:38.340 Reality can be pretty gory sometimes, but you should speak the truth, even if the truth is unpleasant.
00:15:44.860 If the way to persuade people is to tell them the truth, and you can do it in a more diplomatic way sometimes, you can do it in a more civilized way sometimes, or you have to be blunt sometimes.
00:15:58.320 We're in a very blunt culture, a very authentic, raw culture.
00:16:03.400 This isn't only the Democrats' fault.
00:16:05.140 This is just the fact of our media landscape.
00:16:07.340 We're constantly on social media where it's raw and it's live and people make mistakes and you no longer elect a movie actor like Ronald Reagan.
00:16:18.400 You elect a reality TV actor like Donald Trump.
00:16:21.000 That is reflective of the culture, and I think he handled it very, very well.
00:16:25.280 So let's take a look at the reality of this, by the way.
00:16:27.540 If we're going to delve into how gruesome this is, now you're hearing the left saying,
00:16:32.320 Oh, these stories of illegal alien crime, they're lies, they're not true.
00:16:37.280 I think Nancy Pelosi called it malice and misinformation. 0.82
00:16:40.620 It isn't.
00:16:41.860 There was just one, Breitbart did just one quick rundown of MS-13, specifically crimes, in the last couple years.
00:16:50.180 Last year, an MS-13 gangster pimp ordered the baseball bat beating of a 15-year-old prostitute in Maryland.
00:16:57.120 In 2017, a year before, an MS-13 gangster stabbed a Maryland man a hundred times, beheaded him, and cut out his heart.
00:17:04.860 That's the kind of people we're talking about.
00:17:06.720 That's the kind of crime that is encouraged to cross this border if you create incentives for them to come over.
00:17:12.980 2017, MS-13 murdered two New York teen girls.
00:17:16.800 2016, a year before, MS-13 murdered a 14-year-old Texas boy with a machete.
00:17:22.320 There was a whole spate of machete crimes attributed to MS-13.
00:17:26.600 That's the reality.
00:17:28.660 The Democrats are saying, Nancy Pelosi said this during her response.
00:17:32.680 She said, Mr. President, women and girls at the border, they don't pose a threat to us.
00:17:41.380 Right, yeah, we're not worried about the women and children.
00:17:45.920 We're worried about that guy.
00:17:47.000 We're worried about the drugs that are coming over in such large quantity that the average American life expectancy is decreasing.
00:17:53.720 We're worried about the threats to our own sovereignty as a country because illegal aliens are counted as population for the distribution of congressmen in the House of Representatives because they're counted by the census. 1.00
00:18:07.780 We're worried about illegal alien voting, which does happen. 1.00
00:18:10.320 We're worried about illegal aliens, not just committing crimes but also stressing our resources. 1.00
00:18:15.140 Illegal aliens are much more likely to access welfare programs, obviously, than citizens.
00:18:20.420 And, of course, just accessing regular old government entitlements like public education is a huge stress to the system for people who have not been allowed in here.
00:18:30.040 They are taking a free ride, and the people who are very generous people, the most generous country in all of human history, the people who are being demanded to pay for that don't even get a say in it.
00:18:40.960 It's outrageous, and that's the language you've got to use. 1.00
00:18:44.220 So what did this speech accomplish?
00:18:46.600 There was a question before the speech as to whether or not President Trump would declare a national emergency.
00:18:52.420 And what this would do by declaring a national emergency was it would give him the ability, without Congress giving him the $5 billion, to build portions of the wall.
00:19:02.280 And he could order this to be done through the Pentagon or through other mechanisms, but he could have gotten that done.
00:19:08.060 This would have been drastic.
00:19:09.040 It would have had huge legal challenges. 0.70
00:19:11.260 It definitely would have absorbed a lot of the air out of 2019 and a lot of the political capital out of 2019.
00:19:18.740 Should he have done it?
00:19:19.620 Should he not have done it?
00:19:20.440 Possibly he should have.
00:19:23.180 Because President Trump does very well with adversaries, and he does very well in unconventional politics.
00:19:28.780 Still, I think the reason why he didn't do it is because we're in this very strange moment where the wall is unpopular.
00:19:38.300 The wall, if he had declared a national emergency to build the wall, this would not have done well in public opinion polls.
00:19:46.200 But what does that mean?
00:19:47.960 So the wall is unpopular.
00:19:49.180 However, border security is very popular.
00:19:53.760 And you'll even see this within the same poll.
00:19:55.620 There was a poll out from Harvard-Harris, obviously a very reputable poll.
00:19:59.480 It showed that Americans don't want the wall.
00:20:03.800 They want to give amnesty to DACA, to the illegal aliens brought here when they were under 18.
00:20:10.500 Also, they want to end chain migration.
00:20:14.980 Also, they don't just want to stop illegal immigration.
00:20:18.400 They want to dramatically reduce levels of legal immigration.
00:20:21.840 So right now, our rate of legal immigration is about 1.2, 1.3 million people per year pouring into this country.
00:20:28.180 The Harvard-Harris poll shows the majority of Americans want to reduce that by more than 50%, bring it down to about half a million immigrants coming into the country per year.
00:20:38.300 So how do you make sense of that?
00:20:40.140 They say, we're so against immigration at this point.
00:20:43.740 We don't just want to stop illegal immigration.
00:20:45.860 We want to lower legal immigration. 1.00
00:20:47.380 Also, you can't build a wall.
00:20:49.280 We don't want you to build a wall.
00:20:51.060 Now, what this speaks to is, one, obviously how questions are worded can change this, but it speaks to political messaging.
00:20:58.260 The Democrats have focused in on this wall issue, and they've focused in on personality.
00:21:03.220 So the wall is identified with Donald Trump and his often acerbic personality, and so they don't like the wall.
00:21:09.620 But on the issue itself, they do strongly support the issue.
00:21:13.540 If this is a personality battle then, how did it shake out last night?
00:21:19.440 I'm not saying President Trump gets 100% percentage points on this.
00:21:24.100 I'm not saying he's totally popular.
00:21:25.980 He's not.
00:21:26.760 He is polarizing.
00:21:28.220 That's been his appeal all along.
00:21:29.800 It's the reason why he won the Republican nomination.
00:21:32.160 It's not because he's so likable.
00:21:33.620 It's not because he has that fake plastic smile on his face like Mitt Romney.
00:21:38.480 It's because he's polarizing, and he makes stands that can be unpopular,
00:21:41.740 and this makes him more popular among other demographics.
00:21:45.860 But if it's a personality battle between Donald Trump and Chuck and Nancy, come on.
00:21:52.280 That's not, is that even a question?
00:21:54.160 Is that obviously President Trump wins that personality battle?
00:21:57.880 Chuck and Nancy, we'll get to Chuck and Nancy in a second. 0.89
00:22:01.140 Here is some of the reaction to President Trump, not from Chuck and Nancy, not from Ocasio-Cortez,
00:22:06.320 just a regular old backbencher senator, Senator Chris Van Hollen on MSNBC.
00:22:11.740 Well, I have to agree with Steve that this is a continuation of the degradation of the Oval Office
00:22:18.980 by the President of the United States, this time using the tradition of Oval Office speeches
00:22:25.240 that are usually reserved for major statements instead for a tawdry political speech.
00:22:32.300 I mean, usually it takes the President 55 minutes at a rally to get out all those lies and false statements.
00:22:40.080 This time he crammed it into eight minutes by reading a teleprompter.
00:22:44.460 Lies and false, what lies and false statements did President Trump say?
00:22:49.260 Did he say any?
00:22:50.320 Because I saw this going all around Twitter, all of the talking heads were chattering about this.
00:22:54.300 He said it was all these lies, misinformation, malice, false statements.
00:22:58.000 What false statements?
00:23:00.840 One that they're claiming is that President Trump said that thousands of illegal aliens come in per day.
00:23:08.200 They say that the reality is more like hundreds.
00:23:10.520 In reality, it's more like thousands.
00:23:12.720 We have at least a thousand people coming in over the border every single day.
00:23:16.900 And in recent months, DHS itself has been reporting that they've seized 3,000 illegal aliens in one day.
00:23:22.880 So that's not a lie.
00:23:24.180 That's the reality.
00:23:25.140 The Democrat line is the lie.
00:23:26.800 We have over a thousand people coming into this country illegally every day.
00:23:30.540 And we don't really know how many there are anyway.
00:23:32.620 We're having that number arrested, apprehended.
00:23:35.700 How many people are sneaking through?
00:23:37.140 How many people are not being arrested?
00:23:39.400 He talked about how drugs are pouring through this country.
00:23:43.100 Look around.
00:23:43.880 Look around in just about any county in America.
00:23:46.200 The drug epidemic has gotten so awful that it has lowered the average life expectancy of Americans.
00:23:53.360 You can't deny that.
00:23:54.840 You can't deny that.
00:23:55.720 That's not a lie.
00:23:56.940 Democrats are very good at claiming that true statements are lies.
00:24:03.340 Who are you going to believe?
00:24:04.600 Democrats are your own lion eyes.
00:24:06.580 You can see it all happening around you.
00:24:08.920 And you can see it in even how long Americans are expected to live.
00:24:12.400 And what about the crisis?
00:24:13.320 They say that President Trump calling the border security question a crisis is a lie.
00:24:20.880 And they say it's a lie because illegal immigration right now is not the worst it's ever been.
00:24:26.700 Well, that's quite a definition of crisis.
00:24:30.100 Oh, if it's not the single worst thing that's ever happened in this category, then it's not a crisis.
00:24:34.680 It's true.
00:24:35.280 It's not as bad as when you had a million people, more than a million people coming in in the year 2000.
00:24:41.760 Maybe it's not as bad as that.
00:24:43.600 It's pretty bad.
00:24:44.440 And the other thing is you can't just freeze one year in time because when Republicans were talking about illegal immigration during 1980, George Bush running for the presidency against Ronald Reagan, they were both debating illegal immigration.
00:24:59.960 And they were both debating who was more compassionate.
00:25:03.040 They were all saying who's going to give more amnesty, who's more whatever, right?
00:25:05.980 But at that time, how many illegal aliens were there in the country?
00:25:10.320 Not very many.
00:25:12.160 But over time, when you have year after year after year where it's pretty bad, but it's not a crisis.
00:25:18.080 It's just pretty bad.
00:25:19.500 Year after year after year for 30, 40 years, all of a sudden you get to 30 million illegal aliens.
00:25:25.680 Again, we don't really know how many there are, but it could be estimated around 20, 30 million illegal aliens.
00:25:30.260 Who knows?
00:25:30.680 So I don't see any lies.
00:25:33.440 Also, such a treat to listen to a Democrat senator talking about the degradation of the Oval Office. 0.89
00:25:39.660 Bill Clinton, not the last Democrat president, but the one before him, Bill Clinton, who all the Democrats were campaigning to make the first gentleman of the United States just a little over two years ago.
00:25:51.360 Bill Clinton turned his intern into a human humidor in the Oval Office in that act. 1.00
00:25:56.580 It wasn't broadcast to national television, Mirabile Dicto, but he did it there.
00:26:01.980 Are we really going to say that Donald Trump spouting accurate information about illegal immigration, that's the degradation of the Oval Office?
00:26:10.880 More than trotting in your little 20-year-old secretary? 1.00
00:26:13.760 I don't think so.
00:26:14.560 We've got a lot more to get to.
00:26:15.500 We've got to get to Chuck and Nancy's response.
00:26:17.120 We've got to get to all the great memes, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the roast of Jim Acosta, and why masculinity is so harmful, according to all those wimps at the American Psychological Association.
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00:28:28.820 So, President Trump gives his speech.
00:28:41.800 Chuck and Nancy, for some reason, give a response.
00:28:44.540 I think this is unprecedented to have a partisan response to an Oval Office addressed to the nation.
00:28:51.680 But, you know, that's the Democrats for you.
00:28:54.300 This response did not go well.
00:28:56.660 Well, this is not me being a partisan or biased or it did not.
00:29:03.020 Nobody thought this thing went well.
00:29:05.260 Brian Williams on MSNBC made fun of them.
00:29:08.200 We'll get to all of that first.
00:29:09.660 Just a little taste of what you missed.
00:29:12.360 I hope you're watching.
00:29:13.340 I hope you're not listening to this.
00:29:14.620 I hope you get to see the looks on their faces.
00:29:17.340 Otherwise, I'll describe it to you.
00:29:19.100 Thank you, Speaker Pelosi.
00:29:20.800 My fellow Americans, we address you tonight for one reason only.
00:29:24.720 The President of the United States, having failed to get Mexico to pay for his ineffective, unnecessary border wall.
00:29:32.360 It goes on and on and on.
00:29:35.440 We'll get to more of what they say in a second.
00:29:37.960 This just doesn't look good.
00:29:40.460 They're doing that thing, which a lot of times happens in responses, which is that you just look really angry.
00:29:47.980 You just look super ticked off.
00:29:50.140 And it's so off-putting.
00:29:51.700 It doesn't accomplish anything.
00:29:53.500 None of these people have a gift for show business.
00:29:57.120 Yes, shockingly, politics is show business for ugly people. 1.00
00:29:59.820 They just don't seem to understand how that comes off on camera.
00:30:03.240 But responses never look good.
00:30:05.560 They never look good.
00:30:06.460 And this is a real question.
00:30:07.620 If they asked me tomorrow to give the Republican response to, well, I guess we'd have to wait for a Democrat president. 0.61
00:30:14.400 Hopefully not until I'm 70 or 80 years old, if that.
00:30:17.020 But if they asked me to do it for a Democrat president, I would laugh in their face.
00:30:23.240 It's a worse job than hosting the Oscars.
00:30:26.940 Why do they look like this?
00:30:30.120 Before we get to why the responses can't ever work, I guess, why didn't this response work?
00:30:37.560 Maybe that'll lead us there.
00:30:39.060 The reason this response didn't work in particular is because Chuck Schumer is caught between his radical base, which favors open borders, and the American people, which is quite anti-immigration.
00:30:53.120 It's actually anti-current levels of legal immigration.
00:30:56.560 And he's really caught here.
00:30:57.620 If you don't believe me that the Democrat base favors open borders, just look at their campaign slogans.
00:31:02.800 They wanted to abolish ICE, immigration and customs enforcement.
00:31:06.480 The caravan that they were applauding is called Pueblos Sin Fronteras, without borders.
00:31:12.300 They're constantly trying to give illegal aliens access to American services, blur the distinction between citizens and non-citizens. 0.83
00:31:22.020 They're constantly trying to give amnesty, which is open borders.
00:31:25.860 They're constantly encouraging more illegal immigration.
00:31:29.120 It stems from an anti-Americanism.
00:31:31.860 But that's what they want.
00:31:32.600 They want open borders.
00:31:34.280 And the majority of the American people do not.
00:31:36.280 Chuck Schumer knows this.
00:31:37.560 Chuck Schumer actually talked about it.
00:31:40.600 Not that long ago, Chuck Schumer was talking about how important it is for us to secure the border.
00:31:45.220 But we also need to set the record straight.
00:31:48.100 The American people need to know that because of our efforts in Congress, our border is far more secure today than it was when we began debating comprehensive reform in 2005.
00:31:59.160 Between 2005 and 2009, a vast amount of progress has been made on our borders and ports of entry.
00:32:06.080 The progress includes 9,000 new Border Patrol field agents in the last four years, construction of a 630-mile border fence or 630 miles of border fence that create a significant barrier to illegal immigration on our southern land border.
00:32:23.860 So there he is bragging about building a wall, bragging about how great that is, isn't it?
00:32:29.140 So we've got him here basically contradicting himself, and that's why he had to look a little more stoic and try to focus on other issues, and it just fell flat.
00:32:41.800 There wasn't a clear message that came out of this.
00:32:44.220 The real problem for them, though, is not even the logical progression of their response.
00:32:50.920 The real problem, as always, being the optics, is they just got memed.
00:32:56.040 They got memed so hard.
00:32:57.620 Here's one of my favorite versions of American Gothic, Chuck and Nancy, giving their response.
00:33:03.560 My fellow Americans, we address you tonight for one reason only.
00:33:07.860 The president of the United States, having failed to get Mexico to pay for his ineffective, unnecessary border law,
00:33:15.840 and unable to convince the Congress or the American people to put the bill, has shut down the government.
00:33:22.780 American democracy doesn't work that way. 0.74
00:33:25.700 We don't govern by temper tantrum.
00:33:28.480 Farm living is the life for me.
00:33:31.320 He gets his way, or else the government shuts down.
00:33:34.200 Hurting millions of Americans were treated as left.
00:33:37.600 Give me that countryside.
00:33:39.540 If you can't see it, she's wearing a little bonnet.
00:33:42.880 You know, he's got the pitchfork.
00:33:45.620 And that's what it looked like.
00:33:46.640 It had this very look of American Gothic.
00:33:51.600 Then there is the problem also, which we do have to address, of they have conflicting statements on this.
00:33:58.580 So Chuck and Nancy, Nancy's calling the wall immoral.
00:34:02.240 Chuck Schumer voted for the wall already.
00:34:04.600 He voted for part of a wall a few years ago, but not that long ago.
00:34:09.400 Then there's confusion over Democrat messaging because they're saying that the wall is immoral,
00:34:15.300 and they're also saying that the wall is ineffective.
00:34:19.360 But it can't be both things at once.
00:34:22.260 So if the wall is ineffective, why is it immoral?
00:34:26.060 It's not keeping anybody out.
00:34:27.640 It's not doing anything.
00:34:28.500 It's letting these immigrants and illegal aliens come through. 1.00
00:34:33.500 It doesn't really matter at all.
00:34:35.120 If the wall is immoral, how is it ineffective?
00:34:38.580 If something is immoral, it is having a moral effect.
00:34:42.480 By definition, it is effective.
00:34:45.080 And so they can't do this.
00:34:46.300 This reminds me of all the times when we were arguing over whether it was okay to torture terrorists, which it is, by the way.
00:34:54.360 But they would always argue on the Democrats.
00:34:57.960 I would say, is it okay to torture terrorists?
00:35:00.260 And they would say, well, torturing terrorists is immoral.
00:35:04.120 It's not who we are.
00:35:05.480 It's wrong.
00:35:06.140 It's terrible.
00:35:06.820 It's immoral.
00:35:07.460 And it's ineffective.
00:35:08.660 All right.
00:35:11.800 Then what's the big deal?
00:35:13.560 If it's not, you know, if it's ineffective, who cares, right?
00:35:16.260 Because they didn't want to actually deal in the issue.
00:35:19.780 We'll do an episode someday on why it's a very, very, very good thing to torture terrorists.
00:35:24.820 Unfortunately, we don't have time to do that now.
00:35:26.400 But they've just got this confused messaging.
00:35:29.800 They would be much smarter to pick a lane and then just try to advance that lane.
00:35:34.500 But again, they can't because they're torn between their base, which is for open borders, and the American people, which is anti-illegal immigration.
00:35:41.540 So if they pick the ineffective line, then their base is going to say, what are you?
00:35:46.580 I don't care that it's ineffective.
00:35:48.500 I'm glad it's ineffective, but you shouldn't do it in the first place.
00:35:52.100 And then if you say it's immoral, then you alienate the majority of the country.
00:35:56.000 So they're trying to split the baby. 0.96
00:35:57.480 It just doesn't work.
00:35:58.760 Don't take my word for how bad this response was.
00:36:01.440 Obviously, you see the memes going around Twitter.
00:36:03.060 Here is no less a Democrat than James Carville, Democrat strategist, on no less a Democrat than Brian Williams' show on MSNBC, giving his response.
00:36:13.140 But tell me why responses are so bad.
00:36:17.020 Tonight, this Chuck and Nancy visual tonight launched a thousand memes while they were still talking.
00:36:23.940 There was an American Gothic meme.
00:36:25.680 There was a, your mother and I are very upset, you stayed out so late meme.
00:36:30.360 And someone has to account for Bobby Jindal, his guest appearance in Gone with the Wind, and for Rubio drinking water.
00:36:41.100 But this visual from tonight goes down in the pantheon.
00:36:45.240 What is the problem with responses, James?
00:36:47.600 You know, they seldom, if ever, work at the State of the Union.
00:36:53.460 They usually get some young person to respond.
00:36:56.480 They tried that with Jindal.
00:36:57.580 That didn't work very well.
00:36:59.400 I don't think they wanted to do it.
00:37:01.860 I don't think they should have done it.
00:37:03.180 And I guarantee you, at the staff meeting tomorrow morning, somebody is going to get, you know, chewed out pretty good about this whole thing.
00:37:10.340 The only good thing about it, it didn't matter.
00:37:12.300 They could have given a Gettysburg address and it wouldn't have mattered.
00:37:14.780 It didn't, it was, he didn't want to be, I've been more excited about colonoscopies than he wasn't giving a speech tonight.
00:37:20.980 He didn't, he didn't want to be there.
00:37:23.240 Yeah, classic James Carville subtlety, but absolutely right.
00:37:28.780 They didn't want to be there.
00:37:30.240 It was a mistake.
00:37:31.780 It was, it was a mistake too, because, because they have conflicting messages about this.
00:37:37.060 It would have been much better to let Trump go out there, be aggressive, be gruesome, be graphic in his language,
00:37:44.560 and then just let, let the Democrat anger at him boil over.
00:37:49.240 I don't think the response accomplished anything for them.
00:37:52.380 I hope, I hope the speech accomplished something for Trump and the Republicans.
00:37:55.720 It seems that it did in so much as it made the case once and for all, and now we can have basically an honest debate.
00:38:03.080 But, you know, it didn't, didn't get us the wall right away.
00:38:06.320 It didn't declare us a national emergency, and it was probably unwise for the Democrats to respond in that way.
00:38:12.120 They're not the only ones who responded.
00:38:13.340 Our favorite socialist from that ritzy town in northern Westchester, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, gave a response as well on my program on MSNBC.
00:38:24.320 Not only that, but in, in the actual address, there was falsehood after falsehood, and we have to make sure that we get our facts straight.
00:38:32.600 Every day, immigrants commit crimes at a far lower rate than native-born Americans. 0.74
00:38:39.180 And not only that, but the women and children on that border that are trying to seek refuge and seek opportunity in the United States of America,
00:38:47.160 with nothing but the shirt on their backs, are acting more American than any person who seeks to keep them out ever will be.
00:38:54.460 So that was obviously on my MSNBC program, The Rachel Maddow Show, last night.
00:39:00.420 Where to begin?
00:39:01.640 First of all, she's complaining about President Trump getting the facts wrong.
00:39:05.200 Two days ago, she was explaining how you shouldn't be factually correct, how it could be morally wrong to be factually correct.
00:39:12.160 She said that in a tweet.
00:39:13.580 So she's really changing her tune, but that's always what she does.
00:39:17.160 The first observation, Nancy Pelosi has a really tough case here on her hands, 0.75
00:39:22.300 because Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez thinks that she's the Speaker of the House, and for all intents and purposes, she is. 1.00
00:39:27.940 She is right now a leading national Democrat.
00:39:32.160 She's the brightest star of the incoming Democrat congressman, and she's causing real headaches for Nancy Pelosi. 1.00
00:39:39.140 Congress members very often are just glorified press secretaries.
00:39:43.360 Very few of them know anything about public policy.
00:39:47.480 Very few of them are interested in crafting public policy.
00:39:51.160 Most of them just want to go on television and run for a higher office.
00:39:55.060 So that's what they do.
00:39:56.320 They just go on television.
00:39:57.300 I mean, this is sort of the Schumer model.
00:39:58.620 Though Schumer, to his credit, does have a lot of acumen in navigating the halls of government since he's been in it his entire life.
00:40:06.240 And so Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is doing that. 1.00
00:40:08.840 I mean, she's spending all of her time on TV.
00:40:10.880 When she's not on TV, she's on Instagram Live.
00:40:13.280 When she's not on Instagram Live, she's doing videos on Facebook.
00:40:16.340 I mean, it's just on and on.
00:40:17.540 She's putting herself out there.
00:40:19.340 But what she's saying isn't true.
00:40:21.660 The trouble is that it sort of sounds like she's saying true things.
00:40:26.060 She's getting much better at the camera.
00:40:27.920 You can see this even just in her eyes.
00:40:29.920 Her eyes are less buggy and weird than they used to be.
00:40:32.920 And they, I don't know, she's just getting much smoother.
00:40:36.920 And she can say things with such confidence now.
00:40:41.200 She didn't used to be able to do this.
00:40:42.960 She used to say, I'm not the expert.
00:40:44.840 Ha, ha, ha.
00:40:45.300 Sorry.
00:40:45.820 Now she says untrue things with such confidence that they're actually somewhat convincing.
00:40:51.240 So she's saying that illegal alien criminals trying to cross into our country illegally are more American than American citizens.
00:40:59.700 What does that even mean?
00:41:03.180 That doesn't mean, that's, that, the semantic value of that sentence is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:41:09.760 But because she's saying it with such confidence, it sounds like it means something.
00:41:14.100 And they do this all the time.
00:41:15.980 I mean, this is another example of having, talk about having crossed messaging.
00:41:19.340 On the one hand, America is a terrible, awful, racist, bigoted, sexist place that has caused wickedness and evil all throughout the world.
00:41:27.960 On the other hand, these illegal aliens are more American than Americans. 0.88
00:41:32.020 Well, can they keep them out, please?
00:41:33.780 No, don't let them in.
00:41:35.120 They sound like terrible people.
00:41:36.740 But, of course, they're just trying to say both things.
00:41:38.740 They will just speak out of both sides of their mouth.
00:41:40.560 Whatever is most convenient, they will say.
00:41:43.000 American can be the worst adjective in the world.
00:41:47.060 It can connote the most evil that you can imagine.
00:41:50.140 Or it can be the most wonderful thing.
00:41:52.240 But, again, only when it's referring to non-Americans.
00:41:55.000 Anyway, she's getting very good as a press secretary.
00:41:58.700 This is a little bit worrisome, and it's worrisome for Pelosi.
00:42:03.840 Before we go, we've got to get to Kellyanne Conway.
00:42:06.240 We'll get to the other stuff later.
00:42:07.840 We've got to get to Kellyanne Conway.
00:42:09.580 This had been building for so long.
00:42:12.560 She was there speaking to Jim Acosta, CNN's Jim Acosta.
00:42:17.260 Ever heard of him? His name is Jim Acosta.
00:42:19.460 She's there speaking to him, and he's being a glib little jerk.
00:42:23.100 And you can tell this has just been building.
00:42:24.440 And she just lets off on him.
00:42:27.000 It's glorious. Enjoy.
00:42:28.140 Hey, Kellyanne, can you promise that the president will tell the truth tonight?
00:42:32.620 Will he tell the truth?
00:42:34.180 Yes, Jim, and can you promise that you will?
00:42:36.120 I will, absolutely.
00:42:36.540 The whole truth and nothing but the truth to help you, God?
00:42:38.660 I'm not the one who does the alternative facts problem like you do.
00:42:41.760 Will the president tell the truth?
00:42:43.780 Make sure that goes viral.
00:42:45.060 Okay.
00:42:45.220 This is why, by the way, this is why I'm one of the only people around here who even gives you the time of day.
00:42:49.840 Can you guarantee that the president's speech will pass a fact check?
00:42:51.840 Let me get back in your face, because you're such a smartass most of the time, and I know you want this to go viral.
00:42:56.580 A lot of these people don't like you.
00:42:58.380 But let me just be respectful to the media at large, as I always am.
00:43:01.920 I explained that that was alternative information and additional facts, and I explained it many times.
00:43:06.660 And don't you put it back in my face for all the corrections that your network needs to issue.
00:43:10.340 I was on your network 25 or 26 times in 2018.
00:43:13.520 I'm one of the last people here who even bothered to go on.
00:43:16.200 And the disrespect that you showed to me personally, I'll just look past.
00:43:19.980 Ma'am, I just asked if the president would be telling the truth tonight.
00:43:23.520 That's why.
00:43:23.900 I just asked if the president would be telling the truth tonight.
00:43:26.080 Preach! Preach, Kellyanne! 1.00
00:43:28.120 Oh, that was just so beautiful.
00:43:30.140 It was devastating.
00:43:31.340 And this is because Kellyanne Conway is much, much, much more intelligent than Jim Acosta.
00:43:37.460 And this is the point I want to make here.
00:43:39.740 Specifically, Jim Acosta says to her, as a sort of just insult, he says,
00:43:45.120 Well, you talk about alternative facts, Kellyanne.
00:43:47.420 This has become a slogan on the left about how Republicans and conservatives don't value the truth.
00:43:54.100 We value alternative facts.
00:43:55.720 Alternative facts was a phrase uttered by Kellyanne Conway in a very specific context, which is perfectly reasonable and actually tells you something very truthful.
00:44:06.880 Just in case you don't remember it, here's the clip.
00:44:08.920 You did not answer the question of why the president asked the White House press secretary to come out in front of the podium for the first time and utter a falsehood.
00:44:21.900 Why did he do that?
00:44:23.160 It undermines the credibility of the entire White House press office on day one.
00:44:27.820 Don't be so overly dramatic about it, Chuck.
00:44:31.480 You're saying it's a falsehood.
00:44:33.180 And they're giving Sean Spicer, our press secretary, gave alternative facts to that.
00:44:38.400 But the point remains...
00:44:39.160 Wait a minute.
00:44:39.920 Alternative facts?
00:44:41.000 Yes, alternative facts.
00:44:43.320 This isn't a crazy...
00:44:44.460 The left, because they're not very good at language, they're very good at perverting language, but they're not very good at understanding language.
00:44:51.320 Alternative is an alternative.
00:44:54.140 It's not opposite facts.
00:44:56.280 It's not that the fact is a falsehood.
00:44:59.280 It's an alternative fact.
00:45:00.780 I mean, another fact.
00:45:02.380 Here's another fact.
00:45:03.240 So, what Sean Spicer had said was that more people watched Trump's inauguration than any inauguration in history.
00:45:11.160 That's true.
00:45:12.300 What the Democrats said was the crowd sizes in Washington were smaller than Obama's.
00:45:18.940 That might be true.
00:45:20.080 Maybe that's true.
00:45:21.500 The alternative fact is that millions and millions of more people watched on social media, on Instagram, on Snapchat, on media that did not exist for Barack Obama's first inauguration.
00:45:31.060 Or many that didn't exist for his second inauguration.
00:45:34.560 There are facts.
00:45:35.240 Here are some alternative facts to give you context and to let you see the whole picture.
00:45:39.440 It's evidence, again, that all shallows are clear.
00:45:43.140 And Democrats and left-wingers thinking in a very shallow way think that they've got Trump on this.
00:45:48.980 And this issue is so clear.
00:45:50.220 And this issue is so clear.
00:45:51.480 And there's no other side to the issue.
00:45:53.440 There is.
00:45:53.820 There's an alternative side.
00:45:54.760 And if you look at the alternative side, then you'll get the whole picture and you can hopefully form a serious opinion and a serious conclusion.
00:46:03.600 But the left-wing has abandoned that for now in place of slogans and ridiculous memes that at least give us some enjoyment during the day.
00:46:13.960 All right.
00:46:14.360 That's our show.
00:46:14.960 We have so much more to get to, but too bad.
00:46:16.480 We'll do it tomorrow.
00:46:16.960 Get your mailbag questions in.
00:46:18.140 I'm Michael Knowles.
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00:46:42.160 Hey, everybody.
00:46:42.680 I'm Andrew Klavan, host of The Andrew Klavan Show.
00:46:45.300 Is it time to build a wall around Manhattan to keep the media inside and prevent them from distorting the debate?
00:46:51.080 Yes, it is.
00:46:51.800 I'll talk about that more on The Andrew Klavan Show.
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