The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 29 - Love In The Time Of MAGA ft. Roaming Millennial

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00:00:37.920 Roaming Millennial joins in-studio to talk love in the age of Trump.

00:00:43.060 Then, Ariel Davidson and Amanda Prestigiacomo join the panel of deplorables to discuss revived Obamacare repeal,

00:00:50.200 North Korea's rocket man burning his fuse out there alone,

00:00:53.260 and why teenagers aren't having sex, drugs, and rock and roll anymore.

00:00:57.180 Sad.

00:00:57.880 Now, before we begin here, I would just like to address something once and for all.

00:01:02.140 People have been insinuating that the only reason that I do this show

00:01:05.560 is so that I can bring on beautiful women and talk to them every single day. 1.00

00:01:09.400 And obviously, nothing could be further from the truth.

00:01:12.180 Before we begin roaming, could I get you a glass of Malbec?

00:01:14.360 I would love that. Thank you.

00:01:15.440 That is great.

00:01:16.140 And, fellas, seems a little bright in here to do an interview, so...

00:01:22.140 Yeah, that's a lot better. That is much better.

00:01:26.980 So, let's just dig right into this interview.

00:01:30.420 Roaming, um...

00:01:32.740 What's your sign?

00:01:34.200 I'm a Cancer.

00:01:35.880 You're kidding.

00:01:36.960 Yeah.

00:01:37.380 That is such a coincidence. I also have an astrological sign.

00:01:40.760 Oh my gosh, no way. It's so crazy.

00:01:46.840 Cheers.

00:01:47.480 So, um, what, uh, what is your favorite color, M&M?

00:02:02.100 Why don't we both say our favorite colors on the count of three?

00:02:05.860 Okay, that sounds fine.

00:02:07.300 Um, one, two, three.

00:02:09.680 Red.

00:02:09.840 Red.

00:02:11.140 It's just like something's happening here or something like that.

00:02:14.360 Yeah, definitely. So, how's your fiancé?

00:02:25.540 We're joined today by Roaming Millennial.

00:02:28.160 Roaming, thank you for being here.

00:02:30.160 This is... Roaming's been with us from the beginning.

00:02:32.500 One of the first people on the panel of Deplorables.

00:02:34.240 I think I might have been not on your first show, but one of them.

00:02:36.980 You were, yeah, at least on the second show.

00:02:38.380 Yeah.

00:02:38.560 Second or third. And we, you know, you bring up my fiancé, obviously.

00:02:42.520 That's true. I'm getting married to sweet little Lisa next year.

00:02:45.000 But the rapture is happening.

00:02:47.280 The rapture is coming on Monday, according to Christian numerologists.

00:02:50.680 So, if we're going to start the doomsday right-wing apocalyptic polygamous cult, 0.96

00:02:55.020 now would be the time to do it.

00:02:56.800 Speaking of sometime polygamous organizations, you went to BYU.

00:03:00.820 That's right. I am not Mormon, but I went to pretty much the biggest Mormon university.

00:03:05.540 But you're not Mormon. So, I'm curious about your religious views.

00:03:09.740 And I'm also curious about why you chose BYU, why you chose a Mormon school.

00:03:14.620 So, I'm born-again Christian.

00:03:16.620 I chose BYU because I studied Middle East Studies in Arabic as my minor.

00:03:21.040 And BYU actually has an amazing language program.

00:03:23.600 So, I went there to study Arabic.

00:03:25.780 And, you know, I got a scholarship there.

00:03:28.440 I was very lucky.

00:03:30.080 It's a good school academically, but it is a Mormon school.

00:03:33.020 And not being Mormon, there were definitely challenges.

00:03:35.540 Yeah, definitely.

00:03:36.920 What sort of challenges?

00:03:38.300 Well, everyone's Mormon. 0.96

00:03:39.680 They all super want you to convert to Mormonism. 0.69

00:03:42.800 You have to take Mormon religion classes while you're there,

00:03:45.840 regardless of whether you're Mormon or not.

00:03:47.160 So, I pretty much have, in essence, a minor in Mormonism.

00:03:50.480 But, you know, if you go to a UK public school, you have to take Islam classes.

00:03:53.940 Of course, yeah.

00:03:54.280 So, it certainly makes just as much sense.

00:03:55.940 Sure.

00:03:56.280 Exactly. The state religion, of course.

00:03:57.600 And, yeah.

00:03:59.420 And, just socially, there were things that, you know, Mormons are, I have a lot of Mormon friends.

00:04:04.620 But, there are some things that's like, yeah, they are a little different, especially the ones in Utah.

00:04:10.220 Mm.

00:04:10.700 Mm.

00:04:10.880 Do you find, because I haven't seen you talking about religion a lot, but we like to talk about religion in the show.

00:04:17.760 Do you, first of all, what is your religious view?

00:04:20.880 Um, so, like I said, born-again Christian. 0.98

00:04:23.100 Um, I don't, it's actually funny, I don't really talk about religion on my channel, uh, just because I have a pretty wide variety of watchers.

00:04:31.140 A lot of the people who listen to me are actually, you know, very liberal or maybe more libertarian than I am.

00:04:36.180 Um, so, religion isn't something that's come up, but I think more and more I'm starting to see how, I guess, my religious views kind of, I mean, they're not determining for my political views,

00:04:48.460 but they definitely kind of go together, they influence one another and things like that.

00:04:51.760 There's a foundation that's formed by that.

00:04:53.780 So, what are your religious views?

00:04:55.100 Let's break the news here, you don't talk about it on your channel, we need, we gotta get some views.

00:04:58.480 Yeah, well, I mean, I definitely, uh, believe in God and I think the idea behind Christianity, uh, a lot of people who aren't Christians or aren't very familiar, uh, with Christianity and how it's practiced isn't the idea that you be a Christian, it's all about being perfect, but it's the idea that there is forgiveness for sin.

00:05:14.100 And I think, you know, the idea behind sin and just knowing who I am as a person and, you know, all my own flaws, that's kind of what made me attracted to Christianity in the first place.

00:05:24.200 Because if you look at all of the world religions, you know, they all try to offer, I guess, you know, a form of self-help or self-improvement.

00:05:30.960 But Christianity is really the only one that says, yeah, you're never going to be perfect, but here's what you can do about it.

00:05:36.920 So, you said it goes hand in hand with your politics.

00:05:39.160 How, I have two questions on that.

00:05:41.420 One, how does your religion influence your politics and maybe vice versa?

00:05:45.460 And also, do conservatives have to be Christian or Jewish or religious?

00:05:52.380 Is there room for atheists in the conservative movement?

00:05:55.600 Well, for me, it's funny because I grew up in a kind of Easter Christmas Catholic household.

00:06:00.920 I think we all did.

00:06:01.560 Yeah.

00:06:01.880 Um, gotta love those two holidays and, and only those, but, um.

00:06:05.540 Christmas Eve is good too because you get all the fish.

00:06:07.160 Right.

00:06:07.520 That's kind of like a second one.

00:06:08.640 Um, but yeah, when I, when I was younger, I mean, I've always, I've never been liberal.

00:06:12.140 I've always been pretty conservative just of how my parents brought me up.

00:06:14.900 So, you know, it's not like if I were to be an atheist, I'd be this pink haired, overweight feminist.

00:06:19.900 Right.

00:06:20.440 I mean, it's not there, but, um, I think since I kind of started exploring Christianity more

00:06:25.940 from a philosophical and theological standpoint, uh, I've come to see more that there are two realms

00:06:31.320 and I, you know, I'm libertarian in my form, in my view of government, but I think very much

00:06:35.880 so that just because we are permitted to do something by government, that doesn't mean

00:06:39.360 we should.

00:06:39.840 And so I think that's why, uh, religion and having these moral questions are so important.

00:06:45.480 And I think from a moral standpoint, what I think of as right and wrong politically, and

00:06:49.580 even in my own life, that's where I guess my faith really plays into it.

00:06:52.680 And do you think that's where the millennial generation and the younger generation are this

00:06:56.720 kind of libertarian relation to Christianity or, or is it something different?

00:07:02.280 Are they, are they the nuns?

00:07:03.840 Are they really atheists or are they just reaching for something that they weren't raised

00:07:08.060 up with?

00:07:08.640 I think they're reaching for something.

00:07:09.860 And I think that's why libertarianism more so than conservatism is being popular.

00:07:14.220 Because if you look at libertarianism, I mean, pretty much all or a lot of conservatives

00:07:18.720 embrace small government principles.

00:07:20.380 But the, I guess what I see is the big difference with them and libertarians, like the, I guess,

00:07:25.280 small government conservatives is the fact that small government conservatives still

00:07:28.920 will be very much against things like drug use, you know, and libertarians.

00:07:32.800 Well, not personally, just for the, for the law.

00:07:34.760 Right.

00:07:35.020 Just for the law.

00:07:35.340 I'm sure they're all, you know, buckling used to smoke pot on his yacht, according to

00:07:38.620 vicious, unsubstantiated rumors.

00:07:40.660 That are totally not true.

00:07:41.540 Probably not true.

00:07:42.500 Yeah.

00:07:43.680 But yeah, and I think that's one of the biggest differences.

00:07:45.780 And I think when we're looking at this younger generation who is more conservative leaning

00:07:49.460 than any since, what is it, the sixties or something like that.

00:07:53.120 I think they're on their way there, right?

00:07:54.780 They see the dangers of large government, but I think where we need to do better as

00:07:58.860 conservatives is teaching them that, yeah, government should be out of our lives, but

00:08:03.180 we should still kind of restrain ourselves.

00:08:04.880 And here's why, here's why this is not morally good for us to do, even if no government is

00:08:10.020 going to be telling us not to do it.

00:08:11.940 So do you think, I mean, you would call yourself sometimes a libertarian, sometimes a conservative.

00:08:15.880 I would say conservatarian.

00:08:16.960 I would never just say, even when I talk about libertarianism, I say like, oh, I lean libertarian

00:08:21.280 because when I think libertarian, I just think, you know, Gary Johnson and lizard people,

00:08:26.080 no roads, smoking pot.

00:08:28.420 I don't know.

00:08:28.880 That's my...

00:08:29.480 Wait, you're obviously, you're talking about the theorem of the reptilians.

00:08:32.620 Do you know you're questioning that settled science?

00:08:34.700 No, I'm sorry.

00:08:35.460 Okay.

00:08:35.720 All right.

00:08:36.020 Well, maybe we'll get to that later with the panel.

00:08:38.060 But there does seem to me sometimes the libertarianism is a cop out a little bit.

00:08:43.160 And I think it's why college kids lean that way is because you can say, look, man, yeah,

00:08:48.320 I want lower taxes, but I'm a libertarian.

00:08:49.840 I'm not one of those big, bad conservatives.

00:08:51.960 Do you think that libertarianism is a step on the road to being more of a mainstream conservative

00:08:58.360 or is it really its own category?

00:09:00.800 I think it can be a step on the road toward mainstream conservatism.

00:09:04.500 As long as we, you know, if you have that foundation where you don't have, or at least the state

00:09:09.340 doesn't have the right to interfere with your lies, you know, there's no good to be had

00:09:12.700 from wealth redistribution, things like that.

00:09:14.480 That is on a step, I mean, a step on the road to conservatism.

00:09:17.260 But I think the extra thing that needs to happen is that you have to be asking yourselves

00:09:21.180 these moral questions like, all right, well, if the state isn't there to tell us what to

00:09:24.960 do, does that mean we just do whatever, live this crazy and cap life?

00:09:28.980 Or are, you know, are we still operating on the assumption that there are things that

00:09:33.040 are right and wrong in our lives?

00:09:34.420 And if so, what are they?

00:09:35.580 How do we know what should guide us in that?

00:09:37.100 And I think that's where church comes in.

00:09:39.020 And Dennis Prager talks about this a lot.

00:09:41.000 And I think it's such a true point.

00:09:43.200 Small government only really works under, I guess, the guide of these, I guess, religions 1.00

00:09:49.900 and faiths that kind of keep us in check because the government isn't there to do that.

00:09:53.360 You need a big God to have a small government.

00:09:54.960 Exactly.

00:09:55.300 That's what you're saying.

00:09:55.940 Yeah, I think that's totally right.

00:09:57.220 It does remind me that the libertinism of PGR Works essay, where the title of the essay

00:10:02.240 is, I think, I might be misquoting it, How to Drive Fast on Drugs While Getting Your

00:10:06.500 Wing Wang Squeezed and Not Spill Your Drinks. 0.95

00:10:09.020 That is poetry.

00:10:10.840 And that does kind of embody that libertarian mindset.

00:10:14.800 I think the only reason I would oppose legalizing marijuana is because of all the people who

00:10:18.440 want to legalize marijuana.

00:10:19.480 Just to spite them.

00:10:20.300 I feel that way too.

00:10:20.700 Have you encountered these people?

00:10:21.860 Yes.

00:10:22.140 That's all they care about.

00:10:23.120 Yeah.

00:10:23.280 I mean, there was a bit where I was getting my immigration together where I was going

00:10:26.880 to the courthouse a lot.

00:10:27.880 I went like three times.

00:10:28.660 And every time I went, there was this guy trying to get us to sign petitions to legalize marijuana.

00:10:32.580 It's like, A, you clearly already do it.

00:10:34.380 So, you know, no worries there.

00:10:35.920 And B, is this really something you want to center your entire life around?

00:10:39.760 This was the same guy.

00:10:40.660 Yeah.

00:10:40.920 Same guy.

00:10:41.700 Same guy.

00:10:42.140 All times.

00:10:42.860 Absolutely.

00:10:43.540 It's like the most important thing.

00:10:45.180 Forget about national security.

00:10:46.420 Forget about tax reform.

00:10:47.080 Forget about health care.

00:10:48.060 It's just legalizing pot. 1.00

00:10:50.640 Now, so libertarianism might be on the road to conservatism.

00:10:54.020 There is this thing that is not on the road of any of those things.

00:10:57.800 It's an alternative.

00:10:59.620 And you've gotten in trouble with these guys.

00:11:00.980 Yes.

00:11:01.320 It's the alternative right. 0.69

00:11:02.580 You have talked to them.

00:11:03.640 You've talked to Spencer.

00:11:04.580 I have personally talked to Richard Spencer.

00:11:06.780 I've interviewed other alt-righty type people on the show.

00:11:11.120 Do we talk about them too much?

00:11:13.020 There are like 500 of these people, right?

00:11:15.000 I mean, if you ask Hillary Clinton, there's 66 million of these people. 0.97

00:11:17.500 Right.

00:11:17.740 But there are.

00:11:18.120 Anyone who's not Bernie Sanders or to the right of Sanders.

00:11:20.160 Yeah.

00:11:20.500 If you're to the right of Sanders, you're on the alt-right.

00:11:23.280 Yeah.

00:11:23.900 But in reality, how many of these people are there?

00:11:26.820 500 or something?

00:11:28.020 Yeah.

00:11:28.500 They're a group that is extremely vocal on the internet.

00:11:31.980 Like, screechingly vocal.

00:11:33.480 But in real life, I think you're right.

00:11:35.140 They do make up a very, very tiny portion of the population.

00:11:38.660 They're not this major political movement that the left tries to make them out to be.

00:11:42.520 They're not the reason why Trump won.

00:11:44.340 But at the same time, I kind of get what you're saying, right?

00:11:46.240 We don't want to build them up or give them more attention than is due.

00:11:49.300 But with the way the alt-right term is being thrown around, I do think it is important for

00:11:54.440 conservatives or anyone who's not alt-right but being labeled alt-right to say, hey, by the way,

00:12:00.000 this isn't us.

00:12:01.000 Like, this is what these guys think, and this is why we don't agree with them.

00:12:04.200 I'm amazed that the left, I mean, this is what they do, right?

00:12:07.260 They've done this forever.

00:12:08.060 They say there are three racists in the country, and so we're going to paint the whole Republican

00:12:11.640 Party as racist.

00:12:12.700 But with the alt-right, at least those guys are honest.

00:12:15.880 Right.

00:12:16.080 The 500 people.

00:12:16.700 They say it's alt-right.

00:12:18.080 It doesn't mean very right.

00:12:19.460 It means an alternative to conservatism, an alternative version of things.

00:12:25.080 So I guess you're right.

00:12:26.460 You do have to point out why they're wrong.

00:12:29.420 Their ideas are illogical.

00:12:31.560 They're easily repeated.

00:12:32.860 They're very emotional.

00:12:34.080 And people ask me why I'm not alt-right.

00:12:35.620 I'm not alt-right for the same reason I'm not a feminist or Black Lives Matter advocate,

00:12:39.640 right?

00:12:39.780 Because they're emotional arguments based on identitarianism.

00:12:42.980 And I have a lot more things to be proud of and committed to than the color of my skin,

00:12:47.740 right?

00:12:48.040 Yeah, it's nothing.

00:12:48.680 I don't feel that I've accomplished very much for that.

00:12:50.680 You also have this other issue with the alt-right, which is that you are not all white. 0.95

00:12:55.180 Yes, that I am complicit in the white genocide. 0.99

00:12:57.720 You are. 1.00

00:12:58.180 You are the white genocide. 1.00

00:12:59.620 Yeah. 1.00

00:13:00.180 Roaming?

00:13:00.780 How dare you?

00:13:01.660 Yeah.

00:13:02.080 I mean, and I feel bad for, you know, they're clearly upset about this, but, you know, here

00:13:06.560 I am planning to, I guess, have all these mixed-race children.

00:13:09.020 So I guess it's, it's really, you know what I think though?

00:13:12.620 I think we need to amend, they have this slogan, which is the, the 14 words, we must secure

00:13:18.480 the existence of our people and a future for white children. 0.96

00:13:21.100 We just add a hyphen in there and say white Asian children. 0.66

00:13:24.500 Right.

00:13:24.820 And then you're, and then you're good.

00:13:26.220 Then you can fit in there.

00:13:27.780 We would get along totally fine.

00:13:29.080 If only that were changed.

00:13:30.000 And you get a, you get a ton of flack from these guys on YouTube.

00:13:31.960 Oh yeah.

00:13:32.460 Because you, it is pretty strange.

00:13:34.240 You only started doing this a year and a half ago and now you're like the biggest thing

00:13:37.640 on YouTube, you are, you, but you grew so fast.

00:13:41.260 You get a gazillion views.

00:13:42.700 What is it about you?

00:13:43.900 Why do people watch you?

00:13:45.500 That's, that's something that I've asked myself a bunch, right?

00:13:48.100 Because, you know, I kind of watch my videos and these are, these are kind of niche subjects,

00:13:52.920 right?

00:13:53.300 I mean, things that I think are interesting, but you know, I feel free to actually drink

00:13:56.960 the wine.

00:13:57.280 I'm really, I'm taking the gag as a license to drink during the show.

00:14:00.920 It seems great.

00:14:01.340 Yeah.

00:14:01.940 Um, I, I'm not sure.

00:14:03.500 I think part of it is that, you know, people are looking right now for someone who isn't,

00:14:09.920 isn't afraid to be called all these names and just express themselves.

00:14:12.880 So that's why when you see anyone who's not afraid to do that, Ben Shapiro is a great

00:14:16.900 example of that.

00:14:17.800 People are kind of interested.

00:14:18.300 I think I saw him earlier.

00:14:19.180 I don't, I don't know.

00:14:20.100 I saw him somewhere.

00:14:20.780 Maybe it was a dream.

00:14:21.760 Uh, but yeah, so people are drawn to that.

00:14:23.520 And then hopefully they're, they look at my channel and see someone who, who I really do

00:14:27.960 care about these issues.

00:14:28.920 And I, you know, I see myself as sort of an activist for, you know, conservative small

00:14:34.180 government principles.

00:14:35.040 And I hope that my videos are informative.

00:14:38.180 Um, you know, I'm sure a lot of people will say I'm only popular because I am a girl.

00:14:43.060 I, you know what?

00:14:43.540 I'm not going to say that has nothing to do with it.

00:14:45.140 I'm hoping that's not the only reason why people watch me.

00:14:47.040 Are you saying that if I identify as a girl that I'll, I'll finally get as many views

00:14:50.260 as you do?

00:14:50.640 That is how that works.

00:14:51.780 We're doing it right now.

00:14:52.800 I am a woman.

00:14:54.640 I am a beautiful woman.

00:14:55.820 Um, you identify as Angelina Jolie.

00:14:58.940 Yeah, that's right.

00:15:00.100 Yeah.

00:15:00.300 At least, at least my cousin, Beyonce.

00:15:02.060 Yeah.

00:15:02.680 So on that point, they say it's just cause you're a girl and it is true. 1.00

00:15:07.680 Pretty girls do very well on YouTube, particularly in the conservative movement.

00:15:10.700 They do very well on Fox news and on television stations, but that's fine.

00:15:15.260 It seems to me use any, any tool at your disposal to talk about true ideas.

00:15:20.380 The left always gets conservative women wrong. 0.98

00:15:22.440 They don't understand conservative women because they, they think that conservative 1.00

00:15:26.320 women are supposed to be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen and never leave and never utter 1.00

00:15:31.380 a word, but you don't do that.

00:15:33.160 When I think of conservative women, like, uh, Margaret Thatcher, Phyllis Schlafly, you, 1.00

00:15:37.640 Ann Coulter, Laura Ingram, on and on and on.

00:15:40.800 I love that.

00:15:41.340 I'm included with Margaret Thatcher.

00:15:43.260 Oh, Margaret Thatcher.

00:15:44.480 Yeah.

00:15:44.660 Just like growing millennial Margaret Thatcher, just equally same level, same amount of accomplishment.

00:15:49.520 I mean, I don't know.

00:15:51.400 I haven't seen Margaret Thatcher put out a YouTube video probably ever.

00:15:54.400 Right.

00:15:54.640 She's really slacking.

00:15:55.500 Mm-hmm.

00:15:55.920 Absolutely.

00:15:56.540 With the dead and all that.

00:15:57.200 But those are pretty tough ladies. 1.00

00:15:58.520 Those are tough cookies.

00:15:59.360 Mm-hmm.

00:15:59.720 You're a, you're an outspoken, fierce defender of, of your ideas.

00:16:04.140 Yeah.

00:16:04.420 Why do they get women wrong? 1.00

00:16:05.680 And you know what?

00:16:06.100 I get people on the left attacking me for that reason all the time.

00:16:09.620 Oh, if you're so for family values, why, why are you not, you know, pumping out children 1.00

00:16:14.700 and stuff like that?

00:16:15.420 And by the way, I'm 23.

00:16:16.460 I think, I think I have enough time to do, to do both, but-

00:16:18.980 Well, Monday is actually the apocalypse, so we better hurry up on it.

00:16:22.900 Yep.

00:16:23.200 Um, so yeah, but I think the reason why there are a lot of these conservative women who are 1.00

00:16:28.560 so outspoken is that I think, you know, in terms of gender roles, I think conservatives

00:16:32.640 in general embrace the idea that, you know, men and women are different in some ways, uh,

00:16:38.140 you know, and they're complimentary.

00:16:39.160 And so I, as someone who is a woman and conservative, I feel like I kind of care about these issues

00:16:44.980 in a maternal way.

00:16:46.440 And so I, you know, I'm, I can't speak for any other conservative female commentator, but

00:16:50.620 I, I do kind of see it as a, I don't know, not a way of mothering everybody and trying

00:16:55.820 to tell you what to do.

00:16:56.720 But I feel like, you know, if you really do care and you care what kind of world your

00:17:00.640 children are going to be brought up in, if you kind of, if you care about your community

00:17:03.860 and your church, then these are things you'll want to speak up about it.

00:17:07.260 And conservative women in general, I think embrace that. 0.97

00:17:10.100 And, you know, just because you want to have a family and that you, you know, you're feminine

00:17:13.680 doesn't mean you have to be like what the alt-right thinks of as a woman, you know, this

00:17:17.700 hashtag trad life where you're actually are barefoot in the kitchen.

00:17:21.580 Right.

00:17:22.080 Well, they seem to be in every way.

00:17:24.160 The alt-right seems to be cartoonish, but they do.

00:17:26.440 They talk about the trad life and they, they do appear to have cartoonish views of everything,

00:17:32.440 including gender roles.

00:17:33.800 But obviously we know as conservatives, I always think there are like three levels to

00:17:37.500 this.

00:17:37.900 There's the liberal level, which is completely wrong.

00:17:41.220 And then, you know, that says, uh, uh, gender roles don't, they don't exist whatsoever. 1.00

00:17:46.360 They're completely meaningless.

00:17:47.640 Men and women are exactly the same. 0.96

00:17:48.980 But if you're a man in a woman's body, then somehow, you know, even though they're the 0.98

00:17:52.200 same, then there's the next order, which is the conservative view.

00:17:56.660 And that view is men and women are different.

00:17:59.280 They're rigid.

00:17:59.960 These are the, like, ah, women, you know, and then there's the higher level. 1.00

00:18:04.120 There's the highest level of conservatism, which is like, ah, women, you know, there's, 1.00

00:18:09.300 it's, it's an appreciation and it's a playing around with rules that are meant to be broken

00:18:14.180 and understanding that we live as real people with real living ideas.

00:18:18.020 And I, the way I see gender roles is that, look, I'm a woman and I'm, even as I'm starting

00:18:23.100 to get older, I'm starting to realize that my priorities in life are like where I see myself

00:18:27.140 in the next five years are...

00:18:28.640 Next five days.

00:18:29.340 Yeah.

00:18:29.660 The apocalypse is, I don't know how I can convince you of this roaming.

00:18:32.240 You're right.

00:18:32.800 I'm sorry, I'll have to fly back to LA if it is happening.

00:18:35.780 And by the way, in the death cult, we are going to make them wear the Handmaid's Tale 0.84

00:18:39.700 costumes.

00:18:40.800 So yeah, I noticed you were trying on other costumes at Steve Crowder's show last week.

00:18:45.100 This isn't going to be like an Arabian princess style.

00:18:48.540 I was so jealous, Crowder. 1.00

00:18:50.640 That was a great bit though.

00:18:52.060 And this is, this is changing the subject just slightly, but you did this great bit

00:18:57.700 on Crowder's show and you sang and you were, you have a great voice and there, you know,

00:19:03.060 everyone goes on everybody's shows.

00:19:04.900 So you go on the Crowder show, you go on my show, we'll go on an interclavian show, whatever.

00:19:10.900 We are dominating the internet as conservatives.

00:19:13.900 Conservatives are killing it on YouTube and Twitter.

00:19:16.120 That's where we live.

00:19:18.220 Why is that?

00:19:19.220 What is happening now?

00:19:20.200 Is it, is it something that, is it just a new version of something that's always been

00:19:23.700 around or is this a real moment of cultural lift for the right?

00:19:27.620 I think right now what we're seeing is a backlash to the leftism that's been pushed

00:19:32.400 down people's throats. 0.65

00:19:34.060 And so I think, honestly, love Trump or hate Trump.

00:19:37.560 I think he's kind of the embodiment of that, right?

00:19:39.420 I don't think Trump won because he's this policy savant or because he's the people's savior.

00:19:44.820 I think it's because people are really upset with the establishment right now and the way

00:19:49.300 things are going, especially when we look at leftism and how this leftist globalist, I guess,

00:19:54.040 point of view, where that's gotten them.

00:19:56.440 And I think the popularity of like your show, Daily Wire in general, I think that's kind

00:20:00.920 of reflective of that.

00:20:02.060 And what I'm hoping is that I'm not sure that everyone who is watching these conservative

00:20:06.320 videos is a conservative themselves.

00:20:08.220 I'm hoping that, you know, they kind of watch it and take away what the core message of

00:20:15.280 like constitutional conservatism is, Judeo-Christian values and stuff like that.

00:20:19.720 But at the very least, because of this backlash, it's getting more attention to what I think

00:20:24.440 are some important issues.

00:20:25.860 I don't think everyone who's watching it right now, like I said, is a conservative themselves,

00:20:29.300 but I'm hoping it's at least a step in the right direction, right?

00:20:31.560 Step one is make people interested and watching your show, right?

00:20:35.280 And why would someone who's not a conservative watch this show or watch your channel or watch

00:20:40.280 any crowd or Ben or Drew?

00:20:44.100 It seems to me it's because they've never heard these ideas before.

00:20:48.000 These ideas are shut out of their curricula in high school, in college.

00:20:52.480 They're told it's a thought crime.

00:20:54.160 You're not allowed to discuss them.

00:20:55.780 And so when a smart girl talks about it on YouTube, you'll watch it.

00:20:59.800 Right.

00:21:00.020 And I think the fact that the left is always calling people like you and me Nazis, white supremacists,

00:21:04.760 stuff like that, I mean, at the very least, people are going to be interested, right?

00:21:07.860 Like, oh, really?

00:21:08.540 Are these modern day Nazis?

00:21:10.540 Are they actually in league with Richard Spencer and, you know, all those Charles people?

00:21:14.540 And at the very least, it makes them interested.

00:21:16.320 And then I think when they watch our stuff and then see, oh, wait, that's not you.

00:21:21.180 I think it I think it kind of triggers something in them like, oh, well, you know, if this wasn't

00:21:25.580 true, what I've heard about conservatives without actually seeing them, like, what else have

00:21:29.220 I been told that's based on these leftist stereotypes and not actually reflective of conservatives?

00:21:34.060 That's true.

00:21:34.740 And it's very hard to convince someone to read Russell Kirk or Edmund Burke or these kind

00:21:38.940 of dense guys.

00:21:40.300 But it's easy enough to get someone to watch a YouTube video.

00:21:42.200 Right.

00:21:42.740 And that's the way in.

00:21:44.900 Before we cut to the panel of deplorables, we have to have the Roaming Millennial Lightning 0.99

00:21:49.080 Round.

00:21:49.500 Okay.

00:21:49.900 I have arranged the most important questions.

00:21:52.600 Some are dichotomies.

00:21:53.760 Some are just regular questions.

00:21:55.300 I want the first answer that comes to your mind.

00:21:57.660 Don't think it out.

00:21:58.580 Just let it come right out.

00:22:00.040 And this, I think, will give us a portrait of who Roaming Millennial is.

00:22:05.080 Favorite YouTuber?

00:22:06.460 Sargon of a Cod.

00:22:07.440 Favorite.

00:22:07.900 What about me?

00:22:08.640 I guess I'm not really a YouTuber.

00:22:09.580 You're a YouTuber adjacent.

00:22:09.960 Favorite novel.

00:22:10.600 I'm a YouTuber adjacent.

00:22:12.780 Favorite novel.

00:22:13.720 See, that's really, really hard for me.

00:22:15.560 She's stalling.

00:22:16.480 She's stalling.

00:22:16.760 Part of me is Day by Day Armageddon, a zombie novel.

00:22:19.640 The other part of me is I really like Pride and Prejudice.

00:22:22.260 I pass.

00:22:23.540 Too many.

00:22:23.960 All the books.

00:22:24.340 Pride and Prejudice.

00:22:24.880 I believe that.

00:22:25.540 I could see that a mile away.

00:22:26.620 Favorite movie?

00:22:28.580 Um...

00:22:30.040 I want to say something profound and intellectual-seeming, but honestly, Lord of the Rings, the second

00:22:36.660 one.

00:22:37.000 The second.

00:22:37.380 You know, I walked out of that movie.

00:22:38.480 I was so bored in the woods.

00:22:39.820 We'll talk about it later.

00:22:41.640 4chan or Reddit?

00:22:42.900 Reddit.

00:22:43.320 Spencer Clavin or Richard Spencer?

00:22:45.280 Um, oh, Richard Spencer, because I want to convince him of the beauties of race mixing. 1.00

00:22:51.160 A noble and thing that I don't want to think about.

00:22:54.700 Holy Koran, Duran Duran. 0.97

00:22:56.680 Duran Duran.

00:22:57.240 Alt-right, alt-wrong.

00:22:58.860 Alt-wrong.

00:22:59.300 My country, right or wrong?

00:23:00.340 My country, when right.

00:23:01.440 My country, when right.

00:23:02.960 William F. Buckley.

00:23:03.960 William F. Cuckley.

00:23:04.880 William F. Cuckley.

00:23:05.660 Always.

00:23:06.900 You're just going right for it.

00:23:08.820 Very courageous political views.

00:23:10.340 Yeah.

00:23:10.640 Favorite color?

00:23:11.820 Blue.

00:23:13.320 Minus two.

00:23:13.960 What a coincidence.

00:23:14.620 We have so much in common.

00:23:15.600 Celebrity crush?

00:23:16.800 Bear Grylls.

00:23:19.080 Great.

00:23:19.840 Senator crush?

00:23:21.240 Senator?

00:23:21.640 Oh, that's a hard one.

00:23:25.180 Rand Paul, maybe?

00:23:26.480 Rand Paul?

00:23:27.080 Mike Lee, perhaps?

00:23:27.780 What?

00:23:28.400 Yeah, Mike Lee's a hottie.

00:23:29.620 Rand Paul?

00:23:30.320 I feel like he's got a good heart.

00:23:31.480 Wow.

00:23:32.680 Orange crush or grape crush?

00:23:34.480 Orange crush.

00:23:35.340 No, the correct answer was grape.

00:23:36.460 Favorite philosopher?

00:23:37.960 Um, Smith in terms of government.

00:23:40.300 Aquinas in terms of, I guess, nature of man type thing.

00:23:43.340 Be still, my beating heart.

00:23:44.680 Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent.

00:23:46.580 If you've never read any Smith and no one has, keep that in mind.

00:23:49.300 I feel like everyone reads Smith.

00:23:50.440 That's kind of the intro.

00:23:51.360 Everyone says they read Smith.

00:23:52.920 How many people on earth have ever read The Wealth of Nations?

00:23:55.520 They've read about it, but how many people have actually read The Wealth of Nations?

00:23:57.540 I feel like any, you know, like 100 level Western philosophy or intro to government class, you have to read.

00:24:03.780 Well, at Yale, the only mandated classes are oppression and gender studies.

00:24:07.600 Oh, of course.

00:24:07.900 So that would be, that's, I guess, that's going to be a mistake.

00:24:09.120 No, not to rape class?

00:24:10.240 No, yeah.

00:24:11.020 Yeah, that's not.

00:24:11.920 Now that's going to replace the whole curricula.

00:24:14.280 Weirdest thing a YouTube commenter has ever said or asked of you?

00:24:18.540 There are quite a few questions about my feet.

00:24:21.240 About your feet?

00:24:21.860 Yeah.

00:24:22.640 Like, I'll be on a live stream and there will be a sizable amount of people asking me to show them my feet.

00:24:28.140 That is, does this come out of your political discussions that you've been?

00:24:31.440 Is this maybe an esoteric?

00:24:33.540 Well, yeah, maybe that's just it.

00:24:34.880 Occam's razor.

00:24:36.060 Well, that is pretty, I never get those questions.

00:24:38.820 I mean, it's, part of me is like, oh, well, it could be worse.

00:24:41.100 The other part of me is kind of like, maybe it is that much worse.

00:24:44.280 I'm just not seeing it.

00:24:45.280 Yeah, that's, that's true.

00:24:46.400 It seems innocent on the surface.

00:24:47.660 Maybe, maybe a really deep political question underneath.

00:24:51.940 It may be just kind of weird.

00:24:53.500 How much covfefe would a woodchuck cuck if a woodchuck could cuck covfefe?

00:24:57.080 A bigly amount.

00:24:58.560 Bigly.

00:24:59.100 Absolutely right.

00:24:59.920 She nailed it.

00:25:00.900 Absolutely right.

00:25:01.600 We have got to say goodbye to YouTube and Facebook.

00:25:04.680 Now, I know you want to stick around.

00:25:06.360 We have Ariel Davidson coming up.

00:25:07.640 I think we lost Amanda.

00:25:08.940 So it's just going to, it's just me, Ariel and Romy Millennial.

00:25:12.000 We're going to have an intimate, close discussion about all of these great things that are going on.

00:25:16.320 Donald Trump's incredible speech at the UN, among others.

00:25:19.460 But if you want to watch it, you have got to go to DailyWire.com.

00:25:23.760 DailyWire.com right now.

00:25:25.380 It's $10 a month, $100 a year.

00:25:27.920 You get me.

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00:25:31.500 Forget about all that.

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00:25:59.680 We'll be right back.

00:26:02.220 It is time to talk about the undead, a zombie back from life.

00:26:15.560 And for that, we cut to our senior zombie correspondent, Bob Hope.

00:26:19.820 You live here?

00:26:20.380 Yes.

00:26:20.840 Well, maybe you know what a zombie is.

00:26:22.480 When a person dies and is buried, it seems there are certain voodoo priests who have the 1.00

00:26:28.140 power to bring him back to life.

00:26:29.940 How horrible.

00:26:30.680 It's worse than horrible because a zombie has no will of his own.

00:26:34.700 You see them sometimes walking around blindly with dead eyes, following orders, not knowing

00:26:40.880 what they do, not caring.

00:26:42.520 You mean like Democrats?

00:26:43.340 It is like the opposite of Democrats because Obamacare repeal is back from the dead. 0.97

00:26:58.940 What a grave robber.

00:27:00.600 Miracle of miracles.

00:27:02.040 Lindsey Graham, Lindsey Graham, who expected that, may be repealing Obamacare. 0.95

00:27:06.120 The Graham-Cassidy bill may do it before the September 30th deadline because the Senate's

00:27:11.500 parliamentarian informed the Budget Committee that the Senate only has until September 30th

00:27:16.780 to repeal Obamacare with a simple majority.

00:27:19.600 To discuss, we bring on our panelist, Ariel Davidson.

00:27:23.220 Ariel, is this going to happen?

00:27:25.900 I hope it does.

00:27:26.940 I mean, I think this is the GOP's chance to really shine.

00:27:30.900 They've been, for lack of a better word, deplorable in that category when it comes to repealing

00:27:35.340 Obamacare.

00:27:35.960 I think the whole Dreamer situation has been a tremendous distraction, for lack of a better

00:27:41.260 word, for Congress.

00:27:42.160 And so I would like to see this happen.

00:27:44.560 I'd like to see a repeal of the employer and individual mandate.

00:27:49.300 I think the imposition or imposing a per capita cap on Medicaid will be a tough sell.

00:27:55.000 But I think there are a lot of parts of this bill that could be extremely successful.

00:28:00.540 You know, National Review had a great article about this that came out at least a few days

00:28:03.960 ago and talked about how this is a great win for federalism, and I couldn't agree more.

00:28:08.480 Now, Roaming, is this random?

00:28:11.120 Is this just a totally random thing?

00:28:12.660 Or is this the 4D chess that we've been hearing about?

00:28:16.120 Oh, gotta love that 4D chess.

00:28:18.240 I'm not sure.

00:28:18.840 Honestly, I support Trump overall in general.

00:28:21.800 I'm not crazy about everything he does.

00:28:23.460 But the whole situation with the Dreamer and all the conversations that was, you know,

00:28:27.860 with Nancy Pelosi apparently convinced him that Dreamers are amazing and that they should 1.00

00:28:32.680 be welcome, and he was tweeting some very curious things about them that kind of smelled

00:28:37.220 like amnesty, at least to people like me.

00:28:39.640 I'm not going to go so far as to say that this is a way of, I don't know, maybe the GOP

00:28:44.820 trying to say like, oh, by the way, we are still in some ways conservative, like at least

00:28:49.780 a little bit.

00:28:50.600 But I hope it works out.

00:28:53.160 It would be great if they could do it with a simple majority.

00:28:55.400 I don't know if people like John McCain are going to let him.

00:28:58.100 But 4D chess match, I'm not sure.

00:29:02.320 You know, sometimes where things just go so bad that it kind of, from afar, looks all right.

00:29:06.420 I think this might just be what the GOP has been doing lately.

00:29:08.780 That it can't get any worse.

00:29:10.560 Yeah.

00:29:10.900 We were hearing for so long, Trump is going to do it.

00:29:13.640 He's going to do it on day one.

00:29:15.100 Wasn't able to do it on day one.

00:29:16.380 Then six months in, he wasn't able to repeal Obamacare because of people like John McCain.

00:29:21.360 And he was, I mean, we react so quickly to Donald Trump.

00:29:26.260 We react in such a huge way, such an outsized way.

00:29:30.000 But I wonder, it took Barack Obama 18 months to pass the Affordable Care Act.

00:29:34.540 It's much harder to repeal an entitlement than to pass one.

00:29:37.420 So maybe we'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

00:29:39.580 We were told a couple months ago that Obamacare repeal was completely dead.

00:29:43.320 It was never going to happen.

00:29:44.220 Now it looks like there's a chance that this thing will come back to life.

00:29:48.280 Ariel, is this, should we give Donald Trump more time, more of the benefit of the doubt?

00:29:53.780 Or has his time run up?

00:29:56.420 I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt here.

00:29:58.980 And I'll tell you why.

00:30:00.260 I think that one of the most successful things you can do in your first term as a president

00:30:04.300 is to really pick two or three issues that you're going to focus on.

00:30:08.880 You know, Trump ran very hard on immigration.

00:30:10.720 It looks like he's not totally winning on that frontier right now, for lack of a better verb.

00:30:15.900 But I think his ability to focus on health care now will be a crucial turning point,

00:30:20.840 or at least an inflection point, in his presidency.

00:30:23.400 And it will really show whether he can focus his agenda on that.

00:30:26.840 Focus on that and focus on tax reform, because those are kind of going to go hand in hand,

00:30:31.400 especially with looking at sort of what those on the left end of the spectrum are coming up with

00:30:37.460 in order to fund their, like, Medicare for all plans.

00:30:40.980 I don't know if you caught Bernie Sanders' idea of hiking taxes up to 52% to pay for his health care plan.

00:30:48.460 Bernie Sanders wants more taxes?

00:30:51.000 Well, apparently, when it's breaking news, Bernie Sanders wants to raise taxes.

00:30:55.120 Because of these brand new ideas like socialism.

00:30:57.680 You know those brand new 200-year-old ideas like socialism?

00:31:00.860 That have worked amazingly.

00:31:01.840 Yeah, like all the youths, like Bernie Sanders.

00:31:03.580 Yeah.

00:31:04.280 Right.

00:31:04.940 Well, so I hope that it works.

00:31:06.700 I hope that Trump is able to get this done and really show that he can focus his agenda

00:31:10.660 in order to accomplish things.

00:31:12.900 It's not like Trump has a lack of ideas.

00:31:15.120 There's plenty of good points and plenty of good friends for him to fight battles on.

00:31:20.020 I just hope that he chooses his battles wisely.

00:31:22.040 And this is one definitely worth choosing.

00:31:23.340 So I hope he's able to focus himself on it and get it done.

00:31:27.820 Very good ideas and the best words.

00:31:29.300 And he is using those best words in his first appearance at the United Nations.

00:31:33.880 Donald Trump made it to the UN and he did not disappoint.

00:31:36.640 Some of the quotes are,

00:31:38.560 the Iran deal was one of the worst and most one-sided transactions.

00:31:42.800 Quote,

00:31:43.240 major portions of the world are in conflict and some, in fact, are going to hell.

00:31:47.700 In America, we do not seek to impose our way of life on anyone,

00:31:50.600 but rather to let it shine as an example for everyone to watch.

00:31:54.440 No one has shown more contempt for other nations and for the well-being of their own people

00:32:04.700 than the depraved regime in North Korea.

00:32:08.920 It is responsible for the starvation deaths of millions of North Koreans 1.00

00:32:15.100 and for the imprisonment, torture, killing, and oppression of countless more.

00:32:22.220 We were all witness to the regime's deadly abuse

00:32:25.380 when an innocent American college student, Otto Warmbier,

00:32:32.040 was returned to America only to die a few days later.

00:32:37.780 No nation on earth has an interest in seeing this band of criminals arm itself

00:32:44.560 with nuclear weapons and missiles.

00:32:47.760 The United States has great strength and patience,

00:32:51.740 but if it is forced to defend itself for its allies,

00:32:55.340 we will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea. 0.97

00:33:01.440 Rocket Man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime. 0.89

00:33:07.780 You can't help but love the guy.

00:33:10.880 You can't help but look at him and just...

00:33:14.620 Rocket Man is on a suicide mission.

00:33:16.460 He was doing so well.

00:33:18.000 He was doing so well.

00:33:18.700 And then he did better.

00:33:19.540 He was doing so well and then he was doing so much better.

00:33:22.920 You know, obviously it had the Trump aspects to it.

00:33:26.120 He said that he didn't want war,

00:33:27.620 but he would totally destroy North Korea, the entire country. 0.65

00:33:30.540 And he obviously called Kim Jong-un Rocket Man.

00:33:33.920 But he also made some interesting points that do have signals for American policy changes.

00:33:40.060 He said that America does not seek to impose its will on any nation,

00:33:43.480 but rather will shine as a beacon for the rest of the world,

00:33:47.340 which is hearkening back to a traditional idea of America,

00:33:51.160 that we don't go gallivanting around the world,

00:33:54.260 but rather the Statue of Liberty is looking out,

00:33:57.100 casting its light on the rest of the world from America.

00:34:00.620 Ariel, did he make the right call in using this kind of language?

00:34:04.560 Was this the right message or was it bellicose and irresponsible?

00:34:08.900 You know, I think it was the right message.

00:34:11.140 I think it was on point.

00:34:12.580 I think you have liberals shaking in their boots over it.

00:34:16.360 It's sort of an interesting selected memory that those on the left seem to have.

00:34:20.640 They're, you know, they're being hypercritical at this point,

00:34:23.760 when in reality we've had everyone from Obama and Clinton,

00:34:28.540 who have, President Clinton, who have threatened to destroy North Korea in some capacity.

00:34:32.920 So this is not unusual language.

00:34:35.140 You know, it's starting to, it's not even starting to,

00:34:37.580 it's just more evidence for me that it's not necessarily what Trump says.

00:34:42.120 That could be wrong for the left.

00:34:44.120 It's just that Trump is saying it.

00:34:46.000 So I think you have to take a lot of their criticisms with a grain of salt

00:34:49.280 and recognize that, you know, they're doing sort of ad hominem attacks on Trump.

00:34:54.700 And, you know, I think he was right in line here.

00:34:56.540 I think that it's his, we're no longer going to be sort of this nation that's somewhat of a pushover.

00:35:03.420 We're not going to tolerate these threats coming from North Korea any longer. 0.52

00:35:07.260 We're going to be responsive.

00:35:08.280 And that's sort of what you, if you want to be a, you know, you want to restore American hegemony,

00:35:15.020 you need to think about restoring, you know, restoring our image on the global stage.

00:35:20.000 So he's trying to do that.

00:35:21.440 He's trying to reassert ourselves as a superpower.

00:35:24.240 So I thought his message was on point.

00:35:27.080 But to restore that image, to restore that credibility,

00:35:29.960 you have to back up your talk with action.

00:35:32.140 Roaming, is it to borrow a phrase from President Trump, all talk and no action?

00:35:36.680 Or is he willing to back this up?

00:35:39.320 And is he willing to push toward regime change in North Korea

00:35:42.820 or to forcing them to abandon their weapons program?

00:35:45.820 I feel like every time I'm on the show, you're always asking me if we should,

00:35:48.960 you know, in some capacity, use military action against North Korea.

00:35:52.080 I'm sensing a theme here.

00:35:53.520 It's because you're our half Asian correspondent.

00:35:55.840 Right.

00:35:56.080 So we obviously have to bring in the Far Eastern issues with you.

00:35:59.700 And we're as bloodthirsty as any other show on the Internet.

00:36:02.660 Right. Of course.

00:36:03.560 Do we have to go to war?

00:36:04.680 You know what?

00:36:05.520 This North Korea is something I wasn't in support of the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan.

00:36:10.880 One of the few things I disagree with Ben Shapiro about.

00:36:13.500 But when it comes to North Korea, the thing is, we're not dealing with a rational actor.

00:36:17.720 Right. There's no information asymmetries that we could correct where it's like,

00:36:20.580 oh, you know, we're actually willing to do this.

00:36:23.280 And, you know, therefore bluffing with these about these weapons of mass destruction is going to help you.

00:36:28.640 This is a very different situation.

00:36:30.260 Kim Jong-un and the North Korean regime in general has shown itself to be extremely aggressive to the United States,

00:36:35.720 not very willing to compromise, enter negotiations on good faith.

00:36:40.580 And so, you know, if there was ever a reason, I've said this before, if there was ever a reason for military action,

00:36:46.020 it would be against North Korea.

00:36:47.440 And I see this as someone who doesn't want war, doesn't hope for war.

00:36:50.280 But increasingly, I'm not seeing any alternative routes.

00:36:53.340 And I think Trump is smart to be trying to put this pressure on China, because right now, I mean,

00:36:58.120 North Korea is its own basket case economically, right?

00:37:00.580 They can't feed their own people.

00:37:01.620 So the fact that we do still have places like China that are doing trade with them, I think, really is really artificially propping them up.

00:37:08.760 And, you know, if they didn't have that extra trade financing, perhaps they wouldn't be able to, you know,

00:37:13.320 spend this money on nuclear weapons development, which incidentally, I also believe, comes from China.

00:37:18.220 Ariel, President Trump brought up this question of trade.

00:37:21.560 He said the countries who trade with North Korea are unforgivable and they need to stop it.

00:37:25.680 Was this a speech-threatening military action against North Korea, or was it threatening economic action and trade action against China?

00:37:33.640 I think it was, you know, seeing economic isolation, which is something we see constantly or frequently with sanctions,

00:37:39.980 as a way of, you know, let's go through the process of economically isolating this country in order to correct their behavior.

00:37:47.140 Will it work? I don't know.

00:37:49.200 This is one of those situations in which, you know, the North Korean economy is so fragile because it's completely state-run.

00:37:55.080 And, you know, most of the, I don't know what percentage of the country, but a large fraction of the country is enslaved to the government.

00:38:01.760 So it's very tough to say, sort of predict how the economy will do in North Korea in response to being economically isolated.

00:38:08.780 But if that is the route we go, I see that sort of a method of, you know, let's try these other methods before we escalate the situation to military action.

00:38:17.540 So I do think it was a good call on Trump's part, and I'm hopeful that this is sort of the nudge and the push that will get things done without having to escalate the situation further.

00:38:30.200 Because, you know, as Roaming pointed out, you know, North Korea is an unpredictable, irrational actor, despite what Keith Ellison might tell you that, you know, he's a very, you know, that Kim Jong-un is a responsible leader.

00:38:41.160 I don't know if you recall that video, that quote that Keith Ellison had where he said, you know, the leader of North Korea was being more responsible than Donald Trump.

00:38:49.520 I mean, it's just absurdity.

00:38:50.480 We just need to send Dennis Rodman over there.

00:38:53.000 Ambassador Rodman, that is.

00:38:54.720 Ambassador Rodman.

00:38:55.600 To North Korea. 0.67

00:38:55.960 I think he's offered, actually.

00:38:57.160 He should.

00:38:59.160 He did a much better job than Barack Obama or Bill Clinton, that is for sure, with Barack Obama's strategic patience policy.

00:39:07.980 I think Dennis Rodman's dying his hair and playing basketball policy is at least as effective.

00:39:12.760 Can't be less.

00:39:13.500 It can't possibly be less effective.

00:39:15.720 But we need to talk about something much more important than a potential nuclear holocaust.

00:39:20.120 And perhaps more dire, when it comes to sex, dating, and drinking, 18 is the new 15 for American teens. 0.93

00:39:28.500 That's a headline out today.

00:39:29.980 There's a study out that shows in 1991, the majority of teens in high school, 54%, were having sex.

00:39:36.420 Another rather high percent were drinking, going out, doing drugs, had a job.

00:39:40.320 By 2015, that number had fallen to 41%.

00:39:43.180 Those poor kids.

00:39:45.160 Ariel, what does this say about these youths these days?

00:39:47.940 I think there's two things maybe going on.

00:39:52.120 I saw a good phrase being tossed around on Twitter, the extension of adolescence.

00:39:56.420 So we just have children or teenagers not really engaging in teenager behavior until later on.

00:40:02.980 You know, millennials being sort of, or the next generation after us being sort of the coddled generation. 0.90

00:40:08.000 I mean, we are as well.

00:40:09.140 But this idea that parents are just coddling children more.

00:40:11.480 I don't know what makes you think that we're a coddled generation, Ariel.

00:40:14.140 Yeah, I know.

00:40:14.560 I just have to take another sip of my mouth back while I do my job.

00:40:18.940 So there's that going on.

00:40:20.440 I think there's this level of coddling that's taking place, which is actually stunting the maturation of teenagers in general.

00:40:26.440 But I think there's also an economic argument to be made here that's maybe a little more covert.

00:40:31.660 You're starting to see the minimum wage rising in major cities.

00:40:35.320 San Francisco, they're planning on raising it to $15.

00:40:37.800 When you do that, you actually cut out a large part of part-time workers.

00:40:43.740 And so what a company will do is they'll lay off a ton of their low-skilled workers in order and just hire, you know, two or three medium-skilled, high-skilled workers to replace all those part-time workers.

00:40:53.580 Or they'll automate, like McDonald's has done in cities around the country.

00:40:57.340 Or they'll do automation.

00:40:58.420 So it doesn't surprise me that the teenage employment rate is so low.

00:41:03.800 I think it has a lot to do with the job market in general and how we're starting to see, you know, automation is replacing these jobs because companies don't want to pay increasingly higher minimum wages.

00:41:15.160 So I'm a huge proponent of, you know, avoiding this minimum wage craze across the country because I think what it ends up doing is hurting job prospects for younger kids.

00:41:25.800 That is a real insight because we always hear that when you raise the minimum wage, that hurts low-skilled workers.

00:41:31.120 That hits ethnic minority or disenfranchised people.

00:41:34.620 But it certainly hurts 15- and 16-year-olds.

00:41:38.460 Those are going to be the first workers to go because they just aren't worth $15 an hour.

00:41:43.420 Absolutely.

00:41:43.900 And the CBO actually put this out in their report, I think, in 2014.

00:41:48.260 They talk, you know, this is one of their warnings is that companies will do this.

00:41:51.980 They will fire low-wage workers and a bunch of them and replace them with just a few medium-skilled or higher-skilled workers.

00:41:58.660 So we're starting to see the impact of that now with higher use unemployment.

00:42:03.500 Romy, another theory on this that some social scientists are positing is that because teenagers are using their cell phones all the time, they're not going out to talk to their friends.

00:42:13.900 They're going home and they're texting or they're posting photos.

00:42:17.840 So they might appear to be more risque or more scandalous, but they're actually behaving in the manner that they're portraying at a much lower rate.

00:42:26.600 Do you think the cell phone is what's killing the rebellious nature of teenagers?

00:42:30.960 Well, I do think that because we have social media and television shows that are, I'm sorry, but edging closer and closer to actual softcore porn by the day, it seems like a lot of the mystery behind these behaviors, partying, drinking, sex, drugs.

00:42:45.540 It's actually being lifted.

00:42:47.580 And so I would disagree with a lot of people that drinking later and having sex later means a delayed maturation.

00:42:53.200 I don't think there's anything necessarily more mature about having sex when you're 15 rather than 18 or the same thing with drinking.

00:43:00.460 And so, I mean, I personally see it as a good thing and I don't think it necessarily means you're staying a child for longer.

00:43:06.060 It just means you're choosing not to engage in these behaviors, which, you know, honestly, when you're 15, 16, 17, 18, you don't need to be doing.

00:43:13.320 And, you know, there is this kind of mystery behind it, like, oh, this is what all the adults are doing.

00:43:18.660 This is dangerous.

00:43:19.360 This is fun.

00:43:20.000 Maybe I can do it.

00:43:21.000 And, you know, with social media, the Internet, I think more and more people are seeing like, it's not that exciting.

00:43:27.100 It's not that glamorous.

00:43:28.400 If I'm not ready to do these things or if I don't want to do these things, there's nothing pushing me to do it.

00:43:34.060 I can, you know, stay at home with my friends, you know, on, I don't know what the latest messaging app is for children.

00:43:41.060 But, yeah, I could just do that.

00:43:42.320 There's no reason why I need to be out late at night doing, I guess, mischievous things.

00:43:47.240 Roaming, you're just so virtuous.

00:43:48.940 I sometimes wonder when I have these all-female panels of deplorables, I don't really worry that a perspective is missing. 1.00

00:43:55.260 But I bet on this issue, if we had a couple guys on here, they might take a slightly different point of view.

00:44:00.440 But probably yours is the more correct and virtuous one.

00:44:03.000 Ariel, you brought up this interesting point that this is just a process of delayed maturation.

00:44:09.020 So it isn't just about teens going out late and drinking.

00:44:12.280 It's about a delay across age groups.

00:44:16.240 Right.

00:44:16.820 So they're becoming adults later, too.

00:44:19.480 Right.

00:44:19.860 So, I mean, this is what I would say is the same study also posited that there's a large fraction of high schoolers have never been on a first date.

00:44:27.060 So I'm not even talking about, you know, sexual activity.

00:44:30.120 That's a personal choice.

00:44:31.560 I'm talking about kids actually forming relationships with other kids.

00:44:35.860 And this could be a symptom of, you know, our texting culture, our social media culture, where you don't actually have to have a face-to-face conversation with someone.

00:44:44.480 And so I think there's actually this strange sort of social ineptitude that's unfolding with the younger generation.

00:44:51.540 You know, I say this as someone who has a younger sister who's a sophomore in high school.

00:44:55.500 You know, I see it within that generation that a lot of their communication takes place over electronics as opposed to face-to-face.

00:45:03.140 Let's carry this forward and look at the average marrying age, which seems to be increasingly hiking.

00:45:08.800 It seems that people are putting off relationships in general.

00:45:12.060 There seems to be less of a necessity for it, if we want to use the word necessity.

00:45:16.320 So, yeah, you know, I'm not saying here I'm advocating that sexual activity is a sign of maturation.

00:45:21.480 You heard it here. Ariel Davidson says that sexual activity is a sign of maturation.

00:45:26.340 I'm sorry, go on.

00:45:26.940 Fifteen, you're right.

00:45:29.020 That's going to be roaming's new slogan.

00:45:30.500 I'm sorry, go on, Ariel.

00:45:31.980 No, I just think that going on, you know, your first date, that is sort of, you know, a crucial or pinnacle moment of your high school career, perhaps, if it happens for you then.

00:45:42.340 And to see that rate declining so rapidly makes me wonder, you know, the propensity of younger kids to actually form real relationships with their peers.

00:45:49.520 So, I think it's a little bit alarming from that standpoint.

00:45:54.260 I'm curious to see what the marriage rates look like in 10 to 15 years, what the average marrying age will be then.

00:46:00.260 Tough to say.

00:46:01.240 That point does make me a little skeptical today of people who get married very young at 20 or 22.

00:46:07.500 That was common in the past, but in the past it was also common for 15-year-olds to work and 16-year-olds to have a job and to do things that adults do.

00:46:16.300 But at this point, if adolescents and teenagers and young adults are having their maturity pushed back so much, then it seems crazy to say you're not old enough to have done anything that adults do, be financially secure, have a job, do all of the other things that adults like to do.

00:46:33.600 But you are ready to make one of the most important decisions of your life.

00:46:36.920 There are clearly side effects of this that raise difficult questions, you know, for an aging population, population that puts off having kids.

00:46:45.960 And we don't have that much time, guys, because as I keep reminding you, the world is ending on Monday.

00:46:51.920 That will be the rapture, so maybe we'll be able to fit it all in by then.

00:46:55.380 But if not, we'll at least get two more shows in the meantime.

00:46:58.560 Ariel, thank you for being here.

00:47:00.600 Roaming, thank you for coming on the show.

00:47:02.620 And for that, it was just something really magical about that little line in the beginning.

00:47:06.760 Yeah, cheers to your health.

00:47:07.780 Yeah, thank you.

00:47:08.620 And thank you.

00:47:09.800 We'll be back tomorrow.

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00:47:12.080 I'm Michael Knowles.

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The Michael Knowles Show - September 19, 2017

Ep. 29 - Love In The Time Of MAGA ft. Roaming Millennial

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