The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 299 - Fake Hate Crimes, Real State Crimes

00:00:00.000 Fake hate crimes and real state crimes abound as Jussie Smollett's ridiculous story finally falls apart 0.91

00:00:06.100 and the FBI's even more ridiculous story about the Trump campaign and Russian collusion falls apart as well.

00:00:12.320 We will analyze why we are so keen as Americans to buy these hoaxes.

00:00:17.480 Then, why national emergencies are not a national emergency and the wall just got a couple hundred miles longer.

00:00:24.040 I'm Michael Knowles and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:30.000 Oh, so much to get to.

00:00:35.380 So, this was the day the right was waiting for.

00:00:39.040 We have been actually playing it pretty cool.

00:00:41.920 Jussie Smollett came out with this story.

00:00:43.520 Most people on the right said, okay, going to wait for more facts to emerge.

00:00:48.820 Doesn't quite add up, but I'll know. I'll wait. I'll wait.

00:00:52.340 Same thing with Russia collusion.

00:00:53.720 I said, you know, looking pretty bad for Democrats right now.

00:00:56.840 Looking kind of like there was an inner coup d'etat that was at work trying to overturn the presidential election.

00:01:03.100 But I'm going to wait. I'm going to wait. I'm going to wait.

00:01:05.220 Today is the day we've been waiting for.

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00:02:40.240 So we now have the identity, probably.

00:02:44.500 Obviously, we don't have all of the information yet, but we most likely finally have the identity of Jussie Smollett's white racist attackers.

00:02:53.520 Do we have a photo?

00:02:55.200 Yep, there it is.

00:02:57.180 I always knew that Ralph Northam and Mark Herring were behind this attack.

00:03:01.400 I always knew that the governor of Virginia and the attorney general of Virginia were behind.

00:03:07.140 This was the most effective blackface I have ever seen in my life. 1.00

00:03:12.840 It has broken records for costuming as to how convincing this blackface was. 1.00

00:03:18.240 Only Governor Northam and Mark Herring could possibly have done this really awful, awful stuff.

00:03:23.700 It's either those two guys, or it's just two giant Nigerian dudes who Jussie Smollett allegedly paid to attack him and then make a big hullabaloo out of it. 0.98

00:03:37.060 Again, I actually don't even now.

00:03:39.480 Even now, now you've got the story fell apart.

00:03:42.700 The two guys were caught.

00:03:44.140 They're not white guys. 0.91

00:03:45.100 They're giant Nigerian guys. 1.00

00:03:46.680 Jussie Smollett follows them on social media.

00:03:48.660 They go to the same gym.

00:03:49.980 I guess at least one of them was an extra on Empire, which is the show that Jussie Smollett's on.

00:03:54.960 They are now saying to the cops that Jussie Smollett paid them money to stage this attack.

00:04:01.680 The attack story never quite made sense.

00:04:04.220 There were a lot of inconsistencies.

00:04:05.780 The Chicago PD now wants to talk to Jussie Smollett.

00:04:08.660 Even now, I don't want to rush to judgment.

00:04:10.900 But it does seem that all of the facts are pointing to Jussie Smollett staging this hate crime hoax.

00:04:20.560 And never at any point were there really facts pointing to this hoax being real.

00:04:26.500 The hoax, I'll let Jussie Smollett say it in his own words, but it always seemed pretty fake.

00:04:32.340 So we all knew it was fake.

00:04:33.580 Conservatives suspected this from the very beginning.

00:04:35.680 We all suspected that this was fake.

00:04:37.840 And yet, America bought it.

00:04:40.060 At least half of America bought it.

00:04:41.540 And the question also is, why did he do it?

00:04:44.300 Here is what Smollett says happened.

00:04:46.060 What happened that night, Jussie?

00:04:47.660 When I landed in Chicago, and Frank Gatson, who's like my uncle, and he's also my creative director, and he picked me up.

00:04:54.220 And then we got back to the apartment.

00:04:57.440 There was no food.

00:04:58.420 And so I went out to Walgreens thinking that they were 24 hours and to have a smoke.

00:05:06.220 Walgreens was closed.

00:05:08.640 So I called him up and I said, hey, I'm going to run to Subway, which was across the street, and I'm going to get a salad.

00:05:12.840 Do you want anything?

00:05:13.560 I went to the Subway and got the order.

00:05:16.760 During that time, I texted my manager thinking that he was still in Australia because he was on an Australian tour with one of his other clients.

00:05:24.060 And I said, yo, call me when you can.

00:05:25.860 And he called me immediately.

00:05:27.540 And while he was on the phone, I heard, as I was crossing the intersection, I heard, Empire.

00:05:36.020 And I don't answer to Empire.

00:05:38.260 My name ain't Empire.

00:05:41.320 And I didn't answer.

00:05:42.560 I kept walking.

00:05:43.360 And then I heard, Empire.

00:05:46.000 So I turned around and I said, the did you just say to me?

00:05:48.860 And I see the attacker masked.

00:05:55.420 And he said, this MAGA country punches me right in the face. 1.00

00:06:01.500 So I punched his ass back. 1.00

00:06:03.020 And then we started tussling. 1.00

00:06:05.640 You know, it was very icy.

00:06:07.400 And we ended up tussling by the stairs, fighting, fighting, fighting.

00:06:12.620 There was a second person involved who was kicking me in my back.

00:06:17.120 And then it just stopped.

00:06:20.300 And they ran off.

00:06:25.180 And I saw where they ran.

00:06:26.860 And the phone was in my pocket, but it had fallen out.

00:06:29.300 And it was sitting there.

00:06:30.620 And my manager was still on the phone.

00:06:32.620 So I picked up the phone and I said, Brandon.

00:06:35.040 And he's like, what's going on?

00:06:36.420 And I said, I was just jumped.

00:06:38.740 And then I looked down and I see that there's a rope around my neck.

00:06:41.460 There you have it, an actor telling his story in a fairly compelling way.

00:06:46.340 It's a little melodramatic.

00:06:47.780 So immediately you start to think, hmm, not so sure about this.

00:06:50.980 Obviously, a lot of questions come up.

00:06:52.400 One, if he was on the phone with his manager, why did he put the phone in his pocket without hanging up?

00:06:57.900 At what point did the phone go from he's talking to his manager to, hey, okay, I'm going to put it in my pocket now,

00:07:04.400 but I'm not going to hang up on you for some reason.

00:07:06.540 Puts it in his pocket and then it falls out.

00:07:08.400 But it doesn't break and it doesn't even hang up.

00:07:10.240 Then during this whole attack, he doesn't notice that the guys put a rope around his neck.

00:07:16.160 He didn't feel it.

00:07:17.220 He didn't feel the rope go around his neck.

00:07:19.280 Did the guys just put it there like a little necklace or did they pull on it?

00:07:23.360 He didn't feel anything.

00:07:24.400 He just noticed it later.

00:07:26.200 One of the other aspects of this story that made people not believe it, of course, is that Chicago is not MAGA country.

00:07:34.040 Chicago, the bluest state in America, or the bluest city in America.

00:07:39.620 In the bluest state in America, Chicago is not MAGA country.

00:07:43.560 One of the most corrupt Democrat towns in the whole country.

00:07:46.920 This is MAGA country. 0.61

00:07:48.360 Is there one Donald Trump voter in all of Chicago?

00:07:51.560 No, because they get purged from the voter rolls.

00:07:53.180 Maybe a couple of dead guys.

00:07:55.500 I don't know.

00:07:55.840 Maybe the Democrats exhumed some dead bodies to go vote for Democrats in the presidential election.

00:08:00.940 Turns out one of them was a Republican. 1.00

00:08:02.460 Damn. 1.00

00:08:03.040 All right. 1.00

00:08:03.180 We got to disenfranchise him again.

00:08:04.960 The left totally believed this story.

00:08:07.660 Nobody on the right believed this story.

00:08:09.980 The right was right, as is often the case. 0.94

00:08:12.720 No critically thinking person believed this story.

00:08:16.560 And yet we kind of held our tongue.

00:08:19.180 We said, all right.

00:08:20.440 Well, I don't, we don't want to be accused of being racist.

00:08:22.700 We don't want to be accused of not believing victims.

00:08:25.220 We know, okay.

00:08:26.840 So how did Jussie Smollett get away with this?

00:08:30.100 If, as all of the facts now seem, because one thing he said, the attackers were these white guys.

00:08:35.760 And then he identified the attackers walking away on camera.

00:08:39.440 He saw where they were going.

00:08:40.620 He identifies them.

00:08:41.340 And then what I guess he wasn't counting on is that the cops were able to trace those guys,

00:08:45.820 I assume through other cameras, all the way to their apartment.

00:08:48.620 They had the stuff for the fake attack.

00:08:50.120 And there were these giant Nigerian dudes who knew Jussie Smollett and who Jussie Smollett knew. 1.00

00:08:54.920 So I think he wasn't counting on that.

00:08:57.720 It's very hard to believe that he could have mistaken these giant Nigerian guys who the next day got on a plane for Nigeria 0.98

00:09:03.900 because they wanted to lay low for a little while, 0.88

00:09:06.020 that he could have mistaken them for white racists.

00:09:09.260 How did Jussie Smollett get away with this? 0.97

00:09:11.300 He puts it in his own words.

00:09:12.400 I'm pissed off.

00:09:14.000 What is it that has you so angry?

00:09:18.640 Is it the attackers?

00:09:20.220 It's the attackers, but it's also the attacks.

00:09:24.420 It's like, you know, at first it was a thing of like, listen, if I tell the truth,

00:09:29.700 then that's it because it's the truth.

00:09:32.880 Then it became a thing of like, oh, how can you doubt that?

00:09:39.140 Like, how do you not believe that?

00:09:41.200 It's the truth.

00:09:42.440 And then it became a thing of like, oh, it's not necessarily that you don't believe that this is the truth.

00:09:49.120 You don't even want to see the truth.

00:09:52.320 The truth, the truth, the truth.

00:09:55.860 But it's not the truth, is it?

00:09:57.700 It's his truth.

00:10:00.180 How could you not believe?

00:10:01.380 This is my truth.

00:10:02.620 This is the logical conclusion of you can never question my reality.

00:10:09.580 This is the logical conclusion of radical subjectivism. 0.87

00:10:12.500 This is the logical conclusion of check your white privilege.

00:10:16.160 Check your straight privilege. 0.99

00:10:17.500 You could never possibly have an opinion, a worthwhile opinion, if you are a white straight guy about what a black gay guy says happened. 0.99

00:10:29.960 Because you rank lower on the hierarchy of victimhood. 0.96

00:10:33.020 So you can never challenge that opinion. 0.98

00:10:35.880 And that allows liars like this guy to get away with it. 0.66

00:10:40.400 And even, I mean, even from the very beginning, he says the guys came up to him and yelled, hey, Empire. 0.91

00:10:45.480 First of all, nobody watches Empire.

00:10:46.880 I guess this guy's trying to save his job on this TV show.

00:10:49.880 Nobody, I would not have been able to pick this guy out of a lineup.

00:10:53.160 I have no idea who he is before this story came out.

00:10:55.920 I don't, I've watched basically no TV shows because nobody watches TV shows anymore.

00:11:00.260 They all just stream shows and they'll pick one show and binge it for three weeks and then they'll go on to another show.

00:11:05.840 But this is obviously self-aggrandizing.

00:11:08.480 He's actually not a bad actor.

00:11:09.820 This performance in this interview is pretty good.

00:11:11.920 It's a little bit indulgent.

00:11:14.380 It's a little bit acting class.

00:11:16.120 So you start to, he's being a little prepared.

00:11:19.660 He's a little too waxing philosophic here.

00:11:22.680 You don't quite believe it.

00:11:23.900 But this, nobody could question it because he says, this is the truth.

00:11:28.120 And you can never question.

00:11:30.680 Now, if it had been a straight white Trump supporter who were claiming an attack, then everybody could question the truth.

00:11:36.520 Because he ranks lower on the hierarchy of victimhood.

00:11:39.300 But Jussie Smollett, you can never question him, even though we all suspected it.

00:11:44.520 Now, what does he do?

00:11:46.360 He gets called out, even by the interviewer, on an inconsistency in his story.

00:11:50.540 How does he respond in exactly the way that the leftist culture has taught him to?

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00:13:12.080 So, Jussie Smollett, in this interview, gets called out on an inconsistency in his story, which is that he didn't call the cops right away.

00:13:22.200 Why wouldn't he?

00:13:23.120 He has this attack.

00:13:24.460 It's a major attack. 0.99

00:13:25.820 He's racist, hate crime. 0.97

00:13:28.980 He recovers. 1.00

00:13:30.920 He's got a noose around his neck, I guess.

00:13:32.960 But he doesn't call the cops right away.

00:13:34.800 Why not?

00:13:35.400 I don't have any doubt in my mind that that's them.

00:13:43.780 Never did.

00:13:45.300 Why did you hesitate to want to call the police?

00:13:48.120 You know, there's a level of pride there. 0.69

00:13:50.940 We live in a society where, as a gay man, you are considered somehow to be weak.

00:13:58.480 And I'm not weak. 0.71

00:14:00.260 I am not weak.

00:14:01.700 And we, as a people, are not weak.

00:14:03.740 So, I mean, I can accept that there was pride there.

00:14:08.000 There's also privacy.

00:14:09.720 You know, at the end of the day, look what has happened.

00:14:14.600 Wait, I don't understand.

00:14:15.700 So, he's making two arguments.

00:14:17.060 He says, well, it's because of society that I didn't call the cops.

00:14:21.520 Yeah, yeah, that's the ticket society.

00:14:23.620 Why was it society? 0.99

00:14:24.500 Because gay guys are considered weak. 0.56

00:14:28.220 So, I didn't, it was, yeah, I was pride and society and I didn't want to be considered weak. 0.82

00:14:34.560 Then why are you on national television right now talking about it?

00:14:37.800 If you didn't want this to come out, if you wanted to keep this private, then why not keep it private?

00:14:44.460 Well, I didn't want to tell the cops.

00:14:46.080 I didn't want to seem weak.

00:14:47.020 I'm perfectly happy to go on national television and cry on camera about it.

00:14:50.940 Hold on, let me see.

00:14:51.700 Let me try to work through my old Uta Hagen techniques.

00:14:54.160 Let me see if I can, okay, I'm going to try to churn from the inner life and see if I can force myself to cry right now.

00:14:59.320 Okay, but I don't want to seem, I don't want to seem weak.

00:15:02.840 Really bad argument.

00:15:03.960 I think he got caught on it and that was the best that he could go to.

00:15:07.780 And it was effective.

00:15:10.260 When in doubt, when you're called out on your lies, feign victimhood.

00:15:15.680 Ocasio-Cortez does this all the time.

00:15:17.800 She's done it to me.

00:15:18.920 I'll point out some lie that she's told.

00:15:21.860 Actually, a classic example.

00:15:23.860 She lies about where she grew up.

00:15:26.160 She pretends to have grown up in the Bronx.

00:15:27.960 She actually grew up in a really ritzy town in Westchester.

00:15:30.680 I then pointed this out on social media and she accused me of mansplaining. 0.97

00:15:35.240 She accused me of erasing her identity.

00:15:38.020 She played the victim. 0.93

00:15:40.100 She played the liar victim. 0.98

00:15:41.800 How dare you call me a liar?

00:15:43.180 I'm a victim and that's what Jussie Smollett is doing here. 0.99

00:15:46.240 Well, I'm a victim and that's why I didn't do the obvious thing that I should have done when I was attacked.

00:15:51.480 Then, the story gets even weaker because actors just, they can't help themselves.

00:15:56.340 They have to get carried away with this. 0.97

00:15:58.420 So, it's not enough that he got jumped by these racist white Trump supporters, allegedly. 0.99

00:16:05.520 You know, these racist white giant Nigerian Trump supporters that he's friends with. 0.98

00:16:09.360 But, he then has to make the story even more fantastical. 0.98

00:16:13.260 If he had just left the story at that, maybe he could have gotten away with it.

00:16:16.960 But, he just had to go even further beyond the realm of credulity.

00:16:20.780 During that time, before they came, it took them about maybe half an hour to come.

00:16:25.760 And, during that time, I was looking at myself, just like checking myself out.

00:16:29.720 I saw the bruise on my neck.

00:16:31.420 You know, like the little, the rope burn around my neck.

00:16:35.240 And then, but I smelled bleach.

00:16:37.460 I know the smell of bleach.

00:16:38.940 And, I saw on my sweatshirt, it had marks on it, like spots on it, when you have a bad bleach job.

00:16:45.360 So, he smells bleach.

00:16:48.380 Okay.

00:16:48.860 He also says later on that he wouldn't take the rope off.

00:16:51.420 He left the rope on.

00:16:52.260 Why does he leave the rope on?

00:16:53.200 He said, because I wanted to show them.

00:16:55.040 I wanted them to see what happened.

00:16:56.800 But, if you wanted them to see what happened, why didn't you call the cops right away?

00:17:00.860 You can't, he keeps having it both ways in this argument.

00:17:03.580 Which is one of the main signals that had conservatives questioning him.

00:17:07.660 And then, had him retaliating.

00:17:10.580 He didn't take the rope off.

00:17:11.520 He then conveniently found some drops of bleach.

00:17:13.620 Not on any place that would have hurt him, but just on his clothing.

00:17:16.300 Just a few drops.

00:17:17.120 So, now we have to believe that in Chicago.

00:17:20.100 Oh, by the way, it was possibly the coldest night of the year when this happened.

00:17:23.440 It was during that polar vortex.

00:17:24.900 Bitterly, bitterly cold.

00:17:26.000 Far below zero. 0.98

00:17:26.900 We are to believe that there was a roving duo of racist white Trump supporters carrying around a noose and bleach looking for a somewhat known black actor to attack and then just to attack and then to leave without really hurting him or stealing any of his property. 0.96

00:17:50.360 Including his sandwich, which he still had. 0.93

00:17:52.600 That's what we have to believe at this point.

00:17:54.560 And then, by the way, when the cops got there, he asked them to turn off their body cameras.

00:17:59.320 He actually admits to this.

00:18:00.460 He said, you can come into my apartment.

00:18:02.220 Turn off the body.

00:18:02.740 It's okay.

00:18:03.480 We don't need any more footage.

00:18:04.860 Okay.

00:18:05.280 He didn't want them to catch any inconsistencies.

00:18:08.860 Inconsistencies, rather.

00:18:09.940 And then, he's in this interview.

00:18:12.500 He knows that some conservatives are out there questioning him.

00:18:16.460 And listen to how he indicts Americans and how he indicts his own country.

00:18:21.360 You know, it's two o'clock in the morning.

00:18:23.640 You're going to Subway.

00:18:25.540 Sub-Zero.

00:18:26.240 Sub-Zero is open 24 hours.

00:18:28.080 Like, people kill me when they say things like that because it's like, Subway is open 24 hours for a reason.

00:18:32.840 So that when you're hungry at night and you ain't got no food, you go to Subway.

00:18:36.340 Subway, the camera facing north.

00:18:39.420 How is that my issue?

00:18:40.460 It feels like if I had said it was a Muslim or a Mexican or someone black, I feel like the doubters would have supported me a lot much more.

00:18:55.140 A lot more.

00:18:56.600 And that says a lot about the place that we are in our country right now.

00:19:00.080 The fact that we have these fear mongers, these people that are trying to separate us, and it's just not okay.

00:19:12.840 Yeah, it's not okay.

00:19:14.960 Those hate mongers and fear mongers who are trying to divide and separate us.

00:19:21.380 Jussie Smollett.

00:19:22.880 Yes, that is not okay.

00:19:25.760 Actually, though, his point's not true.

00:19:27.020 He said, he said, if it were, or no, I guess actually he's making a very cogent point.

00:19:32.560 He said, you know, if it were black people who had done this to me, if I'd said it was black people, then I feel like people would have believed me. 1.00

00:19:39.480 And that's true.

00:19:40.560 Now it looks like it was black people, and I finally do believe you, Jussie Smollett, because you're finally telling the truth.

00:19:45.500 Or the truth at least came out in spite of you not telling it.

00:19:49.260 This is what the left does.

00:19:50.920 The left projects.

00:19:52.240 The left always projects.

00:19:55.200 See, these hate and fear mongers who are dividing this country. 1.00

00:19:58.180 These liars. 1.00

00:19:59.300 You're the hate monger. 1.00

00:20:00.420 You're the fear monger.

00:20:01.420 You're dividing the country. 1.00

00:20:02.480 You're the liar. 1.00

00:20:04.940 You're the guy. 1.00

00:20:05.880 You're the one doing this.

00:20:07.800 This is the projection.

00:20:09.640 And the projection, by the way, is not...

00:20:13.300 Why is he doing this?

00:20:14.600 One, he's trying to protect his job on the show, I guess.

00:20:17.960 But there is a broader cultural point here.

00:20:20.480 And this is not a victimless crime, by the way.

00:20:22.860 There are a lot...

00:20:23.700 Everybody jumped on this to defend him and to indict white, male, Trump-supporting America.

00:20:30.520 Up to and including Nancy Pelosi.

00:20:32.820 They haven't apologized.

00:20:34.340 Nancy Pelosi hasn't apologized.

00:20:36.860 The left is always projecting.

00:20:38.640 But I love this Jussie Smollett story.

00:20:40.280 I actually love what he did because he's exposing the left.

00:20:43.520 And he's exposing their lies, not just on this issue, but on many other issues.

00:20:48.140 He even makes the point for us on the Kavanaugh hearings.

00:20:53.140 He even indicts people like Christine Blasey Ford in his hoax.

00:20:58.680 The next time that you see someone report something, maybe well after the fact that it happened,

00:21:05.880 and you say to them, well, why are you waiting until now?

00:21:11.680 Just remember that mine was reported right away.

00:21:14.300 Oh, we will remember that, Jussie.

00:21:16.140 We will remember that you reported yours right away.

00:21:19.540 Saying, look, mine was reported right away and people didn't believe me.

00:21:23.320 They should believe these people who make up stories 35 years later like Christine Blasey Ford

00:21:27.260 and then contradict those stories with other stories.

00:21:29.480 You know, unfortunately, with hoaxes like that, 35 years later, you can't really come down

00:21:38.420 and prove it definitively one way or the other.

00:21:40.560 But he reported his right away, and it was disproven, almost certainly disproven.

00:21:46.880 Jussie Smollett would have had better luck if he waited 35 years.

00:21:49.640 Maybe then he could have gotten a job on the reboot of Empire or whatever other show he's going to have.

00:21:55.280 He's making our point for us in this.

00:21:57.500 He's making the conservative point for us, and it's not just him.

00:22:00.700 There have been hate crime hoaxes galore in recent years.

00:22:04.920 Just a few examples.

00:22:06.380 In April 2015, Utah man was robbed twice by bigots who force-fed him bleach 0.72

00:22:12.640 and carved dye, and then a gay slur, into his arms. 0.85

00:22:19.400 They could see the carving, the bigots force-feeding him bleach. 0.94

00:22:23.680 He later admitted he made all of that up.

00:22:25.260 Totally made up.

00:22:27.620 That was the purported victim who admitted he made it up.

00:22:31.580 Last April, abortion activist reported to police that a pro-lifer attacked her. 0.59

00:22:36.460 Turns out that didn't happen at all.

00:22:37.840 Totally fake.

00:22:38.380 2015, a leading gay marriage activist in Ohio faked his own abduction.

00:22:45.100 So he said he was abducted for supporting gay...

00:22:46.860 Nope, not true. 0.59

00:22:47.480 He just...

00:22:47.800 It was a total hoax. 0.69

00:22:48.700 Year before that, a lesbian admitted to faking anti-gay hate crimes to get out of doing her homework. 0.75

00:22:55.080 If it works, I don't know.

00:22:56.260 I've done a lot of things to get out of doing homework.

00:22:58.200 That same year, a transgender dude lied about a sexual assault hate crime in a high school bathroom. 0.57

00:23:03.780 Year before that, a lesbian waitress doctored a bill from one of her customers to include anti-gay slurs and to pretend that there was no tip. 1.00

00:23:13.820 Turned out, actually, the people didn't write any anti-gay slurs and they did tip her.

00:23:17.480 But she wanted to pretend to be the victim.

00:23:19.540 She wanted to pretend that there was anti-gay bigotry and animus all over the place. 0.72

00:23:24.760 Same year, a lesbian carved a cross into her own chest to fake a hate crime. 1.00

00:23:31.260 We then found out it wasn't true.

00:23:33.340 The Southern Poverty Law Center in 2016 breathlessly reported that a black doll was found hanging from a noose in an elevator.

00:23:42.020 Turns out it wasn't hanging from a noose at all.

00:23:43.780 There was just a little string that was part of the doll.

00:23:46.640 So, actually, what happened is someone left a black doll in an elevator.

00:23:50.500 Someone left a toy in an elevator.

00:23:52.360 Of course, you never hear any reported apologies from these people.

00:23:55.800 Same year, someone hung a sign at their home two years ago or three years ago now, I guess, 2016.

00:24:01.880 It said, you can hang a N-word from a tree.

00:24:06.420 Equal rights he'll never see.

00:24:08.260 This was widely reported.

00:24:09.740 All the awful racism in Trump's America. 0.94

00:24:12.460 Turns out the guy who hanged that sign was a black guy and it was his own home that he hung it outside of. 0.98

00:24:19.700 That's it. 0.96

00:24:20.840 It was just a total hoax.

00:24:21.980 In 2017, in Indiana, there was a Nazi, anti-gay, pro-Trump vandalism at a church. 0.99

00:24:26.700 Turns out it was the work of an anti-Trump gay man. 0.97

00:24:29.720 And this gay man said, he actually gave away the whole story. 0.96

00:24:32.640 And I'm naming a tiny little handful of all of the hate hoaxes that have gone on in recent years.

00:24:38.740 Why did he do it?

00:24:39.660 He said that the 2016 presidential election had left him, quote, fearful, scared, and alone.

00:24:46.080 And he, quote, wanted other people to be scared with me.

00:24:50.300 So, the 2016 election provoked fantasies in this man's head.

00:24:56.320 The leftist narrative is a fantasy.

00:24:59.220 He's entertaining the fantasy and that's why he's scared, fearful, and alone.

00:25:03.840 But other people are not because they're living in reality.

00:25:08.240 So, he wanted other people to be afraid, to be living in that fantasy with him.

00:25:14.060 So, what did he do?

00:25:15.460 He took his fantasy and he tried to make it a reality.

00:25:18.720 He tried to make himself a victim.

00:25:21.500 Because victimhood carries great currency on the one hand.

00:25:25.600 And also because if he's living in a fantasy and he feels alone living in that fantasy,

00:25:30.460 he wants other people to live in fantasy with him and he has to turn the fantasy in reality.

00:25:35.280 Why do we buy these?

00:25:36.980 Why do we buy these stories? 0.97

00:25:38.040 Why did the whole news media buy this ridiculous story? 0.73

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00:27:04.620 Why do we buy these hoaxes?

00:27:09.760 One, because we don't want to rush to judgment against the accuser.

00:27:14.480 Oh, good.

00:27:15.480 Okay, that's actually a noble thing.

00:27:17.220 That's why I keep actually putting caveats in here.

00:27:19.500 I mean, the overwhelming preponderance of evidence seems to show that Jussie Smollett staged this whole thing as a hoax.

00:27:25.660 But even then, I don't want to totally write off the possibility that there's something even more going on.

00:27:31.800 That's a noble thing to try to protect accusers.

00:27:34.560 It is cruel also to rush to judgment against the accused.

00:27:40.360 And because narratives flip all the time.

00:27:42.180 You saw this with those Covington High School kids. 0.99

00:27:43.840 The whole presidential Democrat candidates, the news media, even bishops piled onto these kids before any facts were out, and then they looked like fools. 0.96

00:27:53.420 It's cruel against the accused because what Jussie Smollett did was commit a real hate crime against white people and against straight people and against conservatives and Trump supporters. 0.96

00:28:03.480 He committed a crime against us.

00:28:06.100 He smeared us.

00:28:07.200 He spread calumny.

00:28:08.620 He defamed us.

00:28:10.840 He filed a false police report, it seems like.

00:28:15.260 Those are real crimes.

00:28:16.540 This is not a victimless crime.

00:28:18.080 He did something very wrong.

00:28:19.340 He could go to jail for this, by the way, as he should if he's guilty.

00:28:22.700 The network spent, according to Newsbusters, 101 minutes breathlessly covering the story before it fell apart.

00:28:28.780 We buy this.

00:28:30.080 And by, I mean, I don't mean us.

00:28:31.360 I mean the left, and I mean half of America, and the mainstream media, and presidential candidates, and Nancy Pelosi.

00:28:37.300 We buy this because we buy the cultural narrative that marginalized people are hopelessly oppressed in this country. 0.97

00:28:44.420 And it's a horrific country that is always trying to kill them, not just oppress them, but kill them. 0.95

00:28:49.420 There was a headline in the Washington Post. 0.99

00:28:51.240 It read, quote, 1.00

00:28:51.780 It breaks your heart that half the country isn't anti-black white racists who are trying to maim and kill people. 1.00

00:29:05.520 That breaks your heart. 1.00

00:29:06.720 It does break her heart.

00:29:08.060 She wishes that were the case.

00:29:09.700 Because then her narrative would be true. 1.00

00:29:11.460 Then her wholly beautiful narrative that America is hopelessly racist and vicious and bigoted, and white people are the devil, and Trump supporters are the devil. 1.00

00:29:21.440 Then that would be true. 1.00

00:29:22.740 She wishes that that were the case.

00:29:24.240 Unfortunately for her, America is a pretty good country.

00:29:27.660 And marginalized communities are not really oppressed.

00:29:30.940 She's so sad about that.

00:29:33.740 She said, quote,

00:29:35.020 I wanted to believe Smollett.

00:29:36.240 I really did.

00:29:36.920 I know that there's a deep, dark, racist history in Chicago.

00:29:39.860 And if proved true, this would have just been one more point on the list.

00:29:42.960 I wanted to believe him with every fiber of my being.

00:29:46.420 When was the last time a Republican ran the city of Chicago?

00:29:49.660 What are you talking about?

00:29:51.980 Yeah, there are a lot of problems in Chicago.

00:29:53.680 A lot of guns.

00:29:54.320 A lot of terrible violence.

00:29:55.500 A lot of terrible governance in Chicago.

00:29:57.420 All true.

00:29:58.280 Not caused by Trump supporters.

00:29:59.820 Not caused by white, straight, male, big daddy patriarch.

00:30:04.500 That's a good thing. 0.98

00:30:06.140 To perverted people like this Washington Post editorial assistant, that's a bad thing. 0.82

00:30:11.200 But to normal, right-thinking people, that's a good thing.

00:30:14.020 So why did Jussie Smollett do it, if he did it?

00:30:16.720 In part, there's a selfish reason.

00:30:18.400 In part, there's a cultural reason.

00:30:19.580 One, what is being reported now is that he was going to be written off of the show Empire.

00:30:23.920 And he didn't want to be written off of Empire.

00:30:25.920 So he decided to try to get some headlines and make it such that he couldn't do it.

00:30:29.820 How did he know this would work, though?

00:30:32.520 I mean, if that's true or not, I don't really care.

00:30:34.460 The selfish reasons, whatever.

00:30:36.080 He knew that that would work because our culture rewards victimhood.

00:30:41.640 Victimhood carries a special currency.

00:30:43.880 If you can pretend to be a victim, that will help you socially.

00:30:49.140 We talk about white privilege.

00:30:50.580 We talk about straight privilege.

00:30:51.580 We talk about male privilege.

00:30:53.400 In our culture today, those are not privileges.

00:30:56.280 Those are disadvantages.

00:30:57.540 And actually, the privileges are to be the opposite.

00:31:00.620 The privileges are to be marginalized, so-called.

00:31:03.000 So if you're a racial minority, if you're a woman, if you're gay, if you are confused about your sex,

00:31:08.540 those are the advantages.

00:31:09.740 Those are the privileges.

00:31:10.860 In the hate hoax culture, privilege is the opposite of privilege.

00:31:15.180 Why did these other people commit the hate hoaxes?

00:31:17.480 Put Jussie Smollett aside for a second.

00:31:20.240 Because some of them believe that the narrative is true.

00:31:23.080 That guy gave the whole story away.

00:31:24.980 He said, I just, my fantasy.

00:31:27.400 I want people to feel my fantasy.

00:31:30.540 But he doesn't think it's a fantasy.

00:31:31.780 He thinks it's reality.

00:31:33.260 They know that the narrative is true.

00:31:35.200 They say this all the time.

00:31:36.200 And they say, well, even if this event wasn't true, it gets to a greater truth.

00:31:41.500 No, it doesn't.

00:31:42.300 This is like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez saying, well, something might not be factually true, but it's morally right.

00:31:50.580 No, it's not.

00:31:52.080 In order to be morally right, you have to be factually right.

00:31:55.280 You can't have a fantasy be reality.

00:31:58.760 You can't contradict reality and say that that is reality.

00:32:02.200 That is what the left wants us to do, but that isn't the case.

00:32:06.760 So what they do is they try to make the events fit the narrative.

00:32:09.140 They stage these hoaxes to show people the deeper truth.

00:32:12.200 There's no deeper truth.

00:32:13.100 It's a lie.

00:32:13.860 Nancy Pelosi tweeted out, quote, the racist homophobic attack on Jussie Smollett is an affront to our humanity.

00:32:19.800 No one should be attacked for who they are or whom they love.

00:32:22.660 I pray that Jussie has a speedy recovery and that justice is served.

00:32:26.180 May we all commit to ending this hate once and for all.

00:32:29.120 She tweeted that out.

00:32:30.000 Now, she quietly over the past two days deleted that tweet because she is finally admitting what we all suspected.

00:32:36.580 No apology.

00:32:37.720 No apology to white straight male Trump supporting America.

00:32:41.000 No, none of that from Nancy Pelosi smeared the whole country, defamed the whole country.

00:32:46.080 No, no, no.

00:32:47.900 No apology to America. 0.77

00:32:49.300 She's indicting America as a bigoted, awful place. 0.99

00:32:51.860 No apology to her countrymen.

00:32:53.140 She just quietly took it down.

00:32:54.740 Nancy is right.

00:32:55.980 Justice should be served.

00:32:57.060 We should end hate once and for all.

00:32:59.180 Actually, by the way, just a usage note.

00:33:02.180 The noun is hatred, not hate.

00:33:04.800 Hate is a verb.

00:33:06.020 It can be an adjective.

00:33:07.580 Hatred is the preferred noun.

00:33:10.080 Hatred.

00:33:11.080 Some people think this is ironic.

00:33:12.700 It's not.

00:33:13.140 Hatred always does this.

00:33:14.400 Hatred always flips the script for you. 1.00

00:33:17.640 Hatred makes you stupid. 1.00

00:33:18.880 It makes you think less clearly. 1.00

00:33:20.000 And when you are responding angrily or reflexively, when you're accusing somebody else of hatred,

00:33:27.000 usually you're accusing yourself.

00:33:29.280 It's like a boomerang.

00:33:30.440 It flips right back on you.

00:33:31.560 Just anecdotally, I see this happen all the time.

00:33:34.180 The left accuses me of hatred all the time.

00:33:36.020 I don't usually get angry with them because I understand how they've convinced themselves to think that.

00:33:42.360 There are all these studies that the right understands the left much better than the left understands the right.

00:33:46.280 I understand how through their perverse premises and their perverse arguments,

00:33:50.620 they can arrive at the conclusion that just, I don't know, citing historical facts is hateful.

00:34:00.400 I see how they get there.

00:34:01.580 They're wrong.

00:34:02.460 But I actually can see how they get there.

00:34:05.660 If you don't have any self-reflection, if you're just constantly reflexively angry all the time,

00:34:11.780 you're probably accusing yourself of the thing that you're accusing the other person of.

00:34:16.020 Pelosi and the left should have some self-reflection, but they won't.

00:34:18.360 Now, that's the fake hate crime.

00:34:21.420 We've got to get to the real state crime because the other big bombshell over the weekend is this Andrew McCabe stuff.

00:34:27.540 We finally got his whole 60 Minutes interview where Andrew McCabe disgraced FBI official.

00:34:33.640 He leaked on Thursday and Friday, you saw early tapes of this, that there was a planned coup d'etat.

00:34:40.620 The deep state, the DOJ and the FBI, were trying to conspire and scheme to overturn the presidential election,

00:34:47.520 get the president kicked out of office.

00:34:49.380 Now, Andrew McCabe has released his lurid details about this because he's trying to sell a book.

00:34:54.760 And he is throwing Attorney General, or Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein, under the bus in all of this.

00:35:00.900 Rosenstein apparently had offered to wear a wire when talking to the president to secretly record his conversations with the president.

00:35:07.480 Now, Rod Rosenstein has said, oh, I was just joking.

00:35:10.040 I was sarcastic.

00:35:11.080 Andrew McCabe says, no way.

00:35:12.700 Deputy Attorney General offered to wear a wire into the White House.

00:35:18.320 He said, I never get searched when I go into the White House.

00:35:21.240 I could easily wear a recording device.

00:35:23.100 They wouldn't know it was there.

00:35:24.460 Now, he was not joking.

00:35:26.840 He was absolutely serious.

00:35:28.620 And in fact, he brought it up in the next meeting we had.

00:35:31.620 I never actually considered taking him up on the offer.

00:35:35.460 I did discuss it with my general counsel and my leadership team back at the FBI after he brought it up the first time.

00:35:43.220 The point of Rosenstein wearing the wire into a meeting with the president was what?

00:35:49.860 What did he hope to obtain?

00:35:52.160 I can't characterize what Rod was thinking or what he was hoping at that moment.

00:35:57.340 But the reason you would have someone wear a concealed recording device would be to collect evidence.

00:36:05.320 And in this case, what was the true nature of the president's motivation in calling for the firing of Jim Comey?

00:36:12.060 So McCabe is doubling down.

00:36:13.600 He's saying Rosenstein is lying.

00:36:16.420 He was not joking about this.

00:36:18.840 He was definitely going to do this. 1.00

00:36:20.500 You got to remember, though, Andy McCabe is the scum of the earth and he's a confirmed liar. 1.00

00:36:24.560 We now know he's a liar. 1.00

00:36:25.700 He lied to investigators. 0.98

00:36:26.340 He lied about leaking information to the media and he was fired from the FBI in disgrace.

00:36:33.500 So we can't just believe everything McCabe is saying.

00:36:36.920 But I also don't trust Rod Rosenstein or anyone else at the DOJ.

00:36:40.520 We know that there have been shenanigans here.

00:36:42.380 So we have to parse them.

00:36:43.160 What do we believe from McCabe?

00:36:44.160 What do we don't?

00:36:44.580 First of all, what did Rod Rosenstein ever do to Andy McCabe?

00:36:48.020 Did Rosenstein sleep with McCabe's wife or something?

00:36:50.760 He is just throwing this guy under the bus and saying, yeah, the guy who's still the deputy AG.

00:36:55.680 Yeah, he was plotting to overturn the presidential election and kick the president out of office.

00:37:00.600 Now, the question this raises is what will happen to Rod Rosenstein?

00:37:03.800 Will the White House fire him?

00:37:05.060 How is he still in his job?

00:37:06.540 Will they believe Rosenstein over McCabe? 0.76

00:37:08.620 McCabe is a totally excruple figure.

00:37:10.580 Now, Andy McCabe goes on and discusses the possibility of Rod Rosenstein secretly recording the president.

00:37:21.820 Why they considered doing it, why they ultimately didn't do it.

00:37:25.000 The general counsel, the FBI and the leadership team you spoke with said what about this idea?

00:37:30.780 I think the general counsel had a heart attack.

00:37:34.600 And when he got up off the floor, he said, that's a bridge too far.

00:37:39.160 We're not there yet.

00:37:40.280 That it wasn't necessary at that point in the investigation to escalate it to that level.

00:37:44.960 That's correct.

00:37:45.880 Wait, wait, wait.

00:37:46.600 Now, did you hear that?

00:37:47.260 Because he said, oh, no, the counsel, he fell on the floor.

00:37:51.140 He thought it was such a crazy idea to secretly record the president.

00:37:53.860 No, no.

00:37:54.440 He said we couldn't do that.

00:37:56.640 Yet.

00:37:58.060 Catch that little yet in there?

00:37:59.560 Hold on a second.

00:38:01.340 If this is such a shocking, crazy thing, why would he leave open the possibility to doing it later?

00:38:09.740 Sometime in the future?

00:38:11.180 Oh, my gosh.

00:38:11.880 It's such a crazy, shocking idea.

00:38:13.320 I'm falling on the floor.

00:38:14.780 Now, let's hold off on that for a couple weeks.

00:38:17.000 That's what he's saying.

00:38:18.120 So he's saying that even at that point, the DOJ was considering secretly taping the president,

00:38:25.260 having his deputy attorney general go in and secretly record the president.

00:38:30.700 The lawyers could envision a world in which they actually did this.

00:38:34.940 And then they get to the heart of it.

00:38:36.480 What were they really going after?

00:38:37.800 They're going to record the president.

00:38:38.820 To what end?

00:38:39.600 Try to catch him in something, catch him in a crime, catch him seeming a little erratic.

00:38:44.160 What they actually wanted to do was use the 25th Amendment to throw the president out of office for incapacitation.

00:38:51.680 The discussion of the 25th Amendment was simply, Rod raised the issue and discussed it with me

00:38:57.640 in the context of thinking about how many other cabinet officials might support such an effort.

00:39:07.380 I didn't have much to contribute, to be perfectly honest, in that conversation.

00:39:12.320 So I listened to what he had to say.

00:39:15.520 But to be fair, it was an unbelievably stressful time.

00:39:20.160 I can't even describe for you how many things must have been coursing through the deputy attorney general's mind at that point.

00:39:25.940 So it was really something that he kind of threw out in a very frenzied, chaotic conversation about where we were and what we needed to do next.

00:39:36.900 What seemed to be coursing through the mind of the deputy attorney general was getting rid of the president of the United States.

00:39:43.780 One way or another.

00:39:45.480 I can't confirm that.

00:39:46.640 But what I can say is the deputy attorney general was definitely very concerned about the president,

00:39:53.400 about his capacity, and about his intent at that point in time.

00:39:58.620 Look, in fairness, in fairness, it was a really frenzied, crazy time.

00:40:02.980 I mean, the person we wanted to win the presidential election lost.

00:40:07.560 And the person we didn't want to win won.

00:40:09.860 I mean, so in fairness, in fairness, it's perfectly reasonable to have a coup d'etat,

00:40:14.800 to launch an unconstitutional coup d'etat, overturn a presidential election.

00:40:18.860 Because the person we wanted to win, here, you understand this, the person that we voted for lost,

00:40:24.480 and we weren't going to tolerate that, so we were going to overturn the election.

00:40:28.540 You understand, don't you?

00:40:30.260 By the way, this remains unconstitutional. 0.98

00:40:31.960 Obviously, it's unconstitutional for the deputy attorney general and this schmuck at the FBI 0.80

00:40:36.080 to try to use the constitution, some provision of the constitution, to overturn a presidential election. 0.90

00:40:42.220 That's obviously unconstitutional.

00:40:44.380 It's also unconstitutional if the cabinet did it.

00:40:46.960 The president was not incapacitated.

00:40:49.800 He is not incapacitated at the moment, either.

00:40:52.880 He's not insane.

00:40:54.460 He's not in a coma.

00:40:56.480 He's not, he's perfectly fine.

00:40:58.740 So even if the cabinet, even if this scheme worked, this coup d'etat worked,

00:41:02.140 it would remain unconstitutional for the cabinet to try to use the 25th Amendment to throw him out.

00:41:07.800 So why is McCabe coming out with this?

00:41:09.560 He's selling a book.

00:41:11.060 He's selling a book.

00:41:11.980 He manages, by the way, to seem almost sympathetic in this interview.

00:41:15.120 Unless you're listening to what he says, if you're just kind of glossing over, you're like,

00:41:18.360 okay, well, yeah, okay, that's fine.

00:41:20.880 He then comes out and he obviously has a personal grudge against Donald Trump 0.98

00:41:26.580 because Donald Trump ended his corrupt and crooked career.

00:41:29.600 And I tried to deny him his pension, denied him some of his pension, I guess.

00:41:33.140 And so he has this personal grudge against Donald Trump,

00:41:35.740 a grudge enough to try to help lead a coup d'etat and take over the White House.

00:41:39.560 And here's him recounting his conversations with the president.

00:41:43.580 This, he's feigning being shocked here.

00:41:46.800 This actually is, I think I'm most shocked at his statement pretending to be shocked right here talking to the president.

00:41:55.520 The president launched into several unrelated diatribes.

00:42:02.440 One of those was commenting on the recent missile launches by the government of North Korea.

00:42:10.800 And essentially the president said he did not believe that the North Koreans had the capability

00:42:15.460 to hit us here with ballistic missiles in the United States.

00:42:18.720 And he did not believe that because President Putin had told him they did not.

00:42:24.120 President Putin had told him that the North Koreans don't actually have those missiles.

00:42:29.100 And U.S. intelligence was telling the president what?

00:42:33.980 Intelligence officials in the briefing responded that that was not consistent

00:42:38.000 with any of the intelligence our government possesses.

00:42:42.360 To which the president replied, I don't care.

00:42:45.780 I believe Putin.

00:42:46.640 What did you think when you heard that?

00:42:50.240 It's just an astounding thing to say, to spend the time and effort and energy

00:42:56.200 that we all do in the intelligence community to produce products that will help decision makers

00:43:03.240 and the ultimate decision maker, the president of the United States, make policy decisions.

00:43:08.160 And to be confronted with an absolute disbelief in those efforts and an unwillingness to learn

00:43:17.540 the true state of affairs that he has to deal with every day was just shocking.

00:43:23.260 It's just shocking.

00:43:24.980 It's just astounding that after all the work that we spook bureaucrats put in,

00:43:30.460 trying to launch a coup d'etat and overturn the presidential election,

00:43:33.420 the president doesn't trust us.

00:43:35.960 Can you believe that?

00:43:37.820 Us, the people who were working with the Democrats, the DNC, Hillary Clinton,

00:43:42.420 to prevent him from being president, then, as I just admitted in this very conversation,

00:43:47.560 we people who were trying to kick him out of office by launching a coup d'etat,

00:43:52.020 using either the Constitution as a mechanism or a fake investigation that I personally launched,

00:43:57.420 he doesn't trust us.

00:44:00.200 I mean, what, you know?

00:44:02.080 How could he not trust us?

00:44:04.140 Why wouldn't he trust a bunch of Democrat hack trader spooks?

00:44:07.780 I just don't...

00:44:09.240 If you can't trust a bunch of Democrat operative trader spooks, who can you trust?

00:44:15.000 You know, who can you trust?

00:44:16.060 Now, can we trust McCabe?

00:44:17.080 I don't know.

00:44:17.700 Can we trust him here? 0.99

00:44:18.560 He's an admitted liar. 1.00

00:44:19.760 He's a demonstrable liar. 1.00

00:44:21.480 He's a proud liar. 1.00

00:44:22.520 He's a boastful liar. 1.00

00:44:24.040 So is he, I don't know, is he just setting up Rod Rosenstein or something? 1.00

00:44:27.060 Maybe.

00:44:27.920 Is he settling a grudge?

00:44:29.300 Is he selling books?

00:44:30.600 I don't know.

00:44:31.280 Or is he telling the truth?

00:44:32.320 We're going to find out, though, because Lindsey Graham, Lindsey Grahambo,

00:44:36.860 is promising to nab McCabe for lying.

00:44:40.620 You know, he's going to try to subpoena him, bring him back to testify.

00:44:43.820 So we'll be able to catch the inconsistencies.

00:44:45.980 They'll nab him either who's lying in the interview,

00:44:47.920 he was lying to investigators before, he's lying to the Senate.

00:44:50.900 We'll see what happens.

00:44:51.800 It's going to produce a lot more wonderful tape.

00:44:54.040 And I just love, this is the first moment in this whole investigation

00:44:57.600 where you're just starting to see a little light on this.

00:45:00.920 You're beginning to see a little light on the corruption at the DOJ.

00:45:03.700 You're seeing a little light on the corruption of the bureaucracy

00:45:06.280 working with the Clinton campaign, with the Obama administration,

00:45:10.080 using the power of the state to work with the Clinton campaign.

00:45:12.860 And President Trump and conservatives and Republicans are coming out

00:45:16.280 smelling like a rose.

00:45:17.940 More light.

00:45:18.740 Bring on the light.

00:45:19.760 We'll get some more of that tomorrow.

00:45:20.960 In the meantime, I'm Michael Knowles.

00:45:22.180 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:45:23.100 See you tomorrow.

00:45:53.100 on the Matt Wall Show today.

00:45:54.020 We're going to talk about this Jussie Smollett situation.

00:45:55.960 The media and the left has really embarrassed itself yet again.

00:46:00.420 But something tells me there's going to be no honest self-assessment

00:46:03.280 on their part.

00:46:03.920 They're not going to learn any lessons whatsoever.

00:46:06.340 Also, I really want to discuss why victimhood has become

00:46:10.740 such a desirable status in America.

00:46:14.180 So desirable that people will actually make up hate crimes

00:46:16.960 just so they can be a victim.

00:46:19.240 And finally, I think maybe in answer to that question,

00:46:22.200 Colin Kaepernick.

00:46:23.100 Got a multi-million dollar payout from the NFL for his own victimhood.

00:46:27.920 So we'll discuss that today as well over on The Matt Wall Show.

The Michael Knowles Show - February 18, 2019

Ep. 299 - Fake Hate Crimes, Real State Crimes

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