The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 3 - Affirmative Action： Warm And Fuzzy Race Discrimination

00:00:00.040 The tweets are in. At Real Donald Trump, cutting college affirmative action, which is actually

00:00:05.920 racist. I wouldn't want extra SAT points for my race. Why not? Hashtag affirmative action is just

00:00:12.140 a fancy term for reverse discrimination. We need to end discrimination in all forms against all

00:00:17.640 people. Good idea. Good. It's about time we eliminate the soft bigotry of low expectations.

00:00:24.240 Hashtag affirmative action. I'm confused liberals. Is it okay or not to treat people differently 0.71

00:00:29.040 based on the color of their skin? Wednesday wisdom. It's good wisdom. Martin Luther King Jr. dreamed

00:00:34.640 of a day when people weren't judged by the color of their skin. End affirmative action. Leftists,

00:00:40.780 dismantle systemic racism now. Right. Okay. Let's end affirmative action. Leftists, wait,

00:00:46.340 well, some systemic racism is okay. Sorry, libs. We will no longer give privileges based on race,

00:00:52.200 but rather on the content of people's character. Hashtag affirmative action is a racist cancer,

00:00:57.400 paternalistic whites who think blacks can only get ahead if they're given a head start. Toxic. 1.00

00:01:03.180 You tell them. On Tuesday, the New York Times reported that the Trump administration is preparing

00:01:07.920 to investigate and sue universities over affirmative action admissions policies, which discriminate on

00:01:13.840 the basis of race, on the meager grounds that those policies discriminate on the basis of race.

00:01:18.480 What bigotry. Plus, roaming millennial Zoe Rachel and Louder with Crowder's Not Gay Jared joined the

00:01:25.360 panel of deplorables to talk about the stock market's predictable drop to an historic high,

00:01:30.540 the president's running roughshod over environmental regulations to build the wall, and speaking of

00:01:35.480 aliens, NASA's new planetary protection officer to save Earth from ET. I'm Michael Knowles. This is

00:01:41.760 the Michael Knowles show. So Attorney General Sessions at DOJ is reportedly about to target

00:01:55.400 the affirmative actions policies at universities and in employment, but specifically on campus at

00:02:01.040 universities. And we are, we are really lucky because here at the Michael Knowles show, we have

00:02:05.220 obtained exclusive footage of former Obama administration officials reacting to the news.

00:02:10.600 Do we have it? That is really gory. That's too bad for them. Well, they're at least out of office now.

00:02:26.080 You know, before his head exploded, the Obama DOJ employee, Vanita Gupta, said this about the

00:02:31.760 reported policy change. Yet again, the Sessions Justice Department, led by the political leadership

00:02:37.380 and marginalizing the career employees is changing course on a key civil rights issue. Now, he's making

00:02:45.160 a point about affirmative action, but it's really interesting. The other point he makes, which is

00:02:49.100 that the political leadership, you know, the people put in place by our elected representatives

00:02:52.860 are undermining the career bureaucrats who have been governing us with no accountability for decade

00:02:58.920 upon decade, because apparently there are benevolent betters. They're the technocrats who can tell us how to

00:03:04.680 live our lives better than we can live them ourselves. But then he's also making the point

00:03:09.040 that this is a terrible change for civil rights and so on. Let's allow Attorney General Sessions

00:03:14.440 to speak for himself on the issue.

00:03:28.800 I couldn't have put it any better myself. That screaming dog, of course, are the lefties and

00:03:38.920 Obama-era officials who were raising a ruckus about this. And he does sound a lot like Foghorn

00:03:45.640 Leghorn. But he's a great American and a good Attorney General. But that is basically what he's

00:03:51.080 telling him. He's telling him to shut up. And we can go a little bit more in depth on the subject. 0.87

00:03:55.620 In 2003, the Supreme Court sent a very confusing message on the issue of affirmative action.

00:04:01.020 In the case Gratz v. Bollinger, they decided that affirmative action was not okay. It was

00:04:07.100 unconstitutional. But then in Grutter v. Bollinger, they decided that it was constitutional.

00:04:12.060 One case was about the undergraduate admissions policies at the University of Michigan. The other

00:04:17.260 was about law school admissions policies at the University of Michigan. And it was a complex case.

00:04:22.480 I think even Sandra Day O'Connor, who wrote the opinion of the court, understood that she was making

00:04:28.180 a very complex and gray point. What she said was, the United States Constitution, quote,

00:04:35.100 does not prohibit the law school's narrowly tailored use of race in admissions decisions

00:04:39.300 to further a compelling interest in a diverse student body. But, she went on, the court expects

00:04:44.800 25 years from now, the use of racial preferences will no longer be necessary to further the interest

00:04:50.800 approved today. So, I don't know why she picked the number 25. I think it's because she understood

00:04:56.960 this is unconstitutional. It's unconstitutional now. But it will affect a social change that we would

00:05:02.620 like or apparently will affect a social change we would like. So, let's just do it for a while

00:05:06.940 and you can overturn it in 25 years. And there is some precedent for this. Even Bill Buckley,

00:05:12.940 who's credited with founding the modern conservative movement, he advocated, quote,

00:05:16.920 a pro-Negro discrimination policy in employment to make up for historical injustices and inequalities

00:05:23.360 and the exclusion of blacks in America. Clarence Thomas, the only black justice on the Supreme Court

00:05:29.320 at the time, vehemently disagreed with this opinion. He said, quote,

00:05:33.740 the majority has placed its imprimatur on a practice that can only weaken the principle

00:05:38.280 of equality embodied in the Declaration of Independence and the Equal Protection Clause.

00:05:43.720 Quote, our constitution is colorblind and neither knows nor tolerates classes among citizens.

00:05:49.820 Now, he agreed with the 25-year structure that was set up by Sandra Day O'Connor,

00:05:54.800 but he agreed because, quote, these policies will clearly have failed to eliminate the perceived

00:06:00.340 need for any racial or ethnic discrimination because the academic credentials gap will still

00:06:05.680 be there. So, is the academic credentials gap still there? We're not quite 25 years out,

00:06:10.940 but we are a number of years out from this, not too far behind. I think Clarence Thomas put it even

00:06:16.140 more succinctly in another talk. Do we have it? I have never understood the notion that we could

00:06:24.380 continue to focus on race in order to get over race. I've never understood that, that we have to

00:06:32.680 continue to identify us and, you know, to be race conscious in order not to be race conscious. 0.85

00:06:39.440 What a virulent racist and clearly so uneducated, isn't he? So, there are these two arguments.

00:06:47.300 There's this constitutional and American ideals argument. How are we supposed to not be race

00:06:52.020 conscious if we're, how does being extremely race conscious get us to being not race conscious?

00:06:56.700 And this constitutional argument that we shouldn't be discriminated against on the basis of

00:07:02.260 our racial background. Now, there are also more tangible reasons to oppose affirmative action.

00:07:10.800 The first argument is reverse discrimination. This is the reason that even that socialist utopia,

00:07:15.700 the United Kingdom, got rid of the policy, is that clearly it discriminates against some racial groups,

00:07:20.960 but not on others. A Bush administration, Department of Education, civil rights official,

00:07:25.560 said this in 2005. She said, quote, these policies dismiss the very real prices paid by

00:07:31.640 individuals who end up injured by affirmative action. And those individuals, by the way,

00:07:35.900 are not just the much maligned straight white male. There are a lot of other groups as well.

00:07:40.460 Adam Carolla explains his experience here.

00:07:44.240 Geez, I want to talk about my white privilege so badly.

00:07:49.140 I graduated North Hollywood high with a 1.7 GPA. I could not find a job. I walked to a fire station

00:07:55.820 in North Hollywood. I was 19. I was living in the garage of my family home. My mom was on welfare.

00:08:01.640 And food stamps. And I said, can I get a job as a fireman? And they said, no, because you're not

00:08:07.260 black, Hispanic or a woman. We'll see in about seven years. And I went to a construction site and 0.90

00:08:13.760 dug ditches and picked up garbage for the next seven years. I got a letter in the mail sent to

00:08:19.440 my father's house saying, your time has come to do the written exam for the L.A. Fire Department.

00:08:25.220 I took it. And I was standing in line. And I had a young woman of color standing behind me in line.

00:08:30.740 And I said, just out of curiosity, when did you sign up to become a fireman? Because I did it or a

00:08:36.380 person seven years ago. And she said, Wednesday. That is an example of my white privilege. It's I

00:08:43.860 think it's an economic privilege more than it is the color of your skin.

00:08:47.220 There's Adam Carolla, a fellow cis-sexual, heterosexual, Italian-American man. I identify

00:08:53.820 very strongly with him. But the notion that Adam Carolla, a fairly burly guy, would be overlooked

00:09:01.780 for seven years and a smaller woman would be in line right the next day is quite interesting.

00:09:08.400 There are these two other arguments. There is the class inequality argument. There's the

00:09:13.520 mismatch theory argument. The mismatch theory argument is what got Antonin Scalia in a lot

00:09:17.960 of trouble in the year before his death. The class inequality argument is easy. It's the idea that

00:09:23.180 these programs don't actually help the people that they're intended to help, poor ethnic minorities, 1.00

00:09:28.200 poor blacks who should be able to climb up out of poverty and go up into social mobility. But it 0.98

00:09:34.220 actually helps the already upwardly mobile, the middle class and the upper middle class.

00:09:38.700 And here's Thomas Sowell explaining both of these ideas.

00:09:41.660 Particularly since the net effect of the preferential treatment, which is preferential in intention

00:09:47.320 more so than in results, is that those blacks who are particularly disadvantaged have fallen

00:09:53.600 further behind under these policies. That such policies have typically benefited those blacks 0.94

00:09:59.240 who are well off, who became better off. Blacks who have relatively less work experience, 0.99

00:10:04.820 lower levels of education, black female-headed families. All these groups have fallen further 1.00

00:10:09.560 behind during a decade or more of affirmative action.

00:10:12.680 Don't you feel the racial hatred pouring out of that noted brilliant economist Thomas Sowell?

00:10:18.560 The other point he makes in another clip somewhere else is that affirmative action encourages people

00:10:24.900 to continue to separate themselves into smaller and smaller and more specific groups because

00:10:29.860 preferred groups then, or rather people who come from non-preferred groups want to appear as

00:10:34.560 as though they come from preferred groups, which is why I am a Palermo, Sicilian American, and so on and so forth.

00:10:39.560 And this ultimately leads to that intersectionality hierarchy where we need to decide if a black transgender 0.70

00:10:47.560 Jewish Muslim is more oppressed than a Persian pygmy who rides horses or something to that effect. 1.00

00:10:53.560 Now, Richard Sander explains the effects of mismatch theory, which Thomas Sowell just explained. 0.85

00:11:00.560 He explains some interesting statistics that come out of this. UCLA law professor who points out black college freshmen

00:11:06.560 who aspire to STEM careers at a rate that's significantly higher than whites, but they dropped out at double the rate

00:11:12.560 because of a mismatch, the idea that students are going into these schools, but they're unprepared.

00:11:19.560 And because there is an advantage given based on racial preferences, maybe they would do better off at a lower tier school

00:11:26.560 where they could succeed and then go on to advanced degrees.

00:11:29.560 On that point, black students who attended a college at which they're mismatched were two times as likely to be derailed

00:11:35.560 from pursuing advanced degrees if they intended on doing that when they got there.

00:11:38.560 One half of black college students rank in the bottom 20% of their classes.

00:11:43.560 The bottom 10% in law schools also explained in part by mismatch. 0.56

00:11:48.560 Black law grads are four times as likely to fail the bar exam.

00:11:52.560 And Sanders says that the mismatch explains at least half of this gap.

00:11:57.560 Campuses with lower academic mismatch are also significantly more likely to be socially integrated

00:12:02.560 because people tend to be attracted to people of their intellectual peer group.

00:12:06.560 And so campuses where people are of roughly the same academic caliber tend to be more socially integrated across all criteria,

00:12:15.560 including race and ethnicity.

00:12:17.560 And then here's the craziest statistic of all.

00:12:19.560 After UCLA dropped its affirmative action, the total number of black and Hispanic students who received bachelor degrees

00:12:26.560 was exactly the same for the next five years as it was for the five years before the change.

00:12:32.560 There was no change.

00:12:33.560 And the explanation for this is while there may have been fewer students from certain demographics,

00:12:38.560 the dropout rate dropped significantly.

00:12:41.560 So you had the same number of students actually graduating.

00:12:44.560 And obviously there are a lot of other factors that come too,

00:12:46.560 which is saving lots of money, not taking out needless student loans, being productive during those work years.

00:12:51.560 So with that, we bring on our panel of deplorables.

00:12:57.560 Do we have them? 0.78

00:12:58.560 We have not gay Jared from Ladder with Cratter. 0.98

00:13:01.560 We have roaming millennial from everywhere else on the internet.

00:13:04.560 And we have the one and only Zoe Rachel.

00:13:07.560 Now, fortunately for us, we have a member of a much persecuted minority on our panel today.

00:13:12.560 So I'd love to hear from him, a not gay Jared as a not gay American. 0.92

00:13:16.560 Do you think it is time to finally end affirmative action? 0.85

00:13:19.560 Oh, I think it's fine, Tom.

00:13:21.560 I think it's mind boggling that people are just now waking up and realizing this is a issue.

00:13:26.560 You know, we've talked about that on our show for a long time. 0.98

00:13:29.560 People get screwed the most are whites and Asians almost indefinitely. 1.00

00:13:33.560 Poor roaming, poor roaming millennial. 1.00

00:13:36.560 Yeah.

00:13:37.560 I want to count mine.

00:13:38.560 I was not discriminated against.

00:13:41.560 But my ovaries, so it bounced.

00:13:43.560 Oh, that is true. 0.98

00:13:44.560 I forgot you had those persecuted ovaries, you lucky duck. 1.00

00:13:48.560 Yeah. 0.53

00:13:49.560 That's very interesting.

00:13:52.560 I mean, Zoe, what do you think?

00:13:54.560 Do you think there's a role for affirmative action in 2017?

00:13:56.560 Has it served its purpose?

00:13:58.560 Has it done absolutely nothing?

00:13:59.560 Has it made things worse?

00:14:00.560 Has it made things worse?

00:14:03.560 Here's the fix for affirmative action. 0.86

00:14:05.560 Here's how you make it go away.

00:14:06.560 Any white person who's concerned about affirmative action is what you got to do.

00:14:09.560 Or if you want to get your job or you work at the fire department or anything like this,

00:14:12.560 is what you do. 0.98

00:14:13.560 All you got to do is just tell them that you're a black woman. 1.00

00:14:15.560 I don't care who you are. 1.00

00:14:16.560 Just tell them that you're a black woman. 1.00

00:14:17.560 What are they going to do? 0.89

00:14:18.560 Are they going to use the application of objective biological science to prove that you're not?

00:14:23.560 You know, that stuff doesn't work.

00:14:25.560 That is so smart, though, because I've been tanning a lot.

00:14:27.560 I go to the beach very frequently in LA.

00:14:29.560 And because I'm Sicilian, I can become almost Hispanic.

00:14:32.560 I can become trans-Hispanic.

00:14:34.560 But I don't even need to do any of that. 0.89

00:14:35.560 I can just become a black woman. 0.93

00:14:36.560 Yeah, see, there you go. 0.98

00:14:38.560 You know, a simple fix, man.

00:14:39.560 That's what we try to do is make things simple.

00:14:41.560 But if I can say really quick, man, the funny thing is about affirmative action is that I have never met a black person yet who claims have needed it. 0.69

00:14:50.560 Right?

00:14:51.560 It's like, oh, you got this.

00:14:53.560 You got into school. 0.98

00:14:54.560 You got this job because you're black. 1.00

00:14:55.560 No, I didn't. 0.92

00:14:56.560 I got this because I'm talented, because I'm smart.

00:14:58.560 Now, the rest of the Negroes may have needed affirmative action, but I didn't. 0.77

00:15:01.560 But not me.

00:15:02.560 You know, there's also this amazing side to it, which is, you know, when I was at college only five years ago, and at Yale, some of the, you know, 10, 15 smartest people there were from ethnic minorities.

00:15:14.560 But there was this awful cloud over it because you think, well, possibly they got where they are because they're black or because they're Hispanic or something.

00:15:22.560 And it really is.

00:15:23.560 It isn't that fair to these people who are really smart and talented, but they have this cloud hanging over them because of legalized discrimination.

00:15:30.560 Absolutely.

00:15:31.560 Now, roaming.

00:15:33.560 I'm sorry.

00:15:34.560 Go ahead.

00:15:35.560 Oh, and I say it's not fair to the people who didn't deserve to be there who you're essentially setting up for failure.

00:15:40.560 Yeah.

00:15:41.560 That's failure and debt.

00:15:42.560 Dropout rates and debt, a tremendous amount of debt.

00:15:45.560 Yeah, that's a great point.

00:15:47.560 Roaming.

00:15:48.560 I mean, you know, there were a debt crisis in the United States, particularly among young people with these awful student loans, quarter million dollar loans.

00:15:55.560 Don't we think that compassion here is clearly misguided?

00:16:00.560 Yeah, and exactly.

00:16:01.560 And you bring up a really good point talking about the average graduation rates of some of these minority groups.

00:16:07.560 The last thing you want to do to someone who is from an underprivileged background is saddle them with a bunch of debt for a degree they're never going to end up completing.

00:16:16.560 Right.

00:16:17.560 The U.S. already, I think, has a little bit of a problem when it comes to the global economy, you know, in context with skilled labor.

00:16:22.560 Right.

00:16:23.560 And, you know, these university spots, they're important.

00:16:26.560 We need them.

00:16:27.560 So we need to be giving them to the students who are most likely to finish, most likely to go enter in the workforce with their degrees and be skilled workers.

00:16:34.560 Right. I mean, this is so social justice in universities is one of the most damaging things I can think of to the American economy.

00:16:42.560 Listen to Richard Spencer over here spouting her racist claptrap. 1.00

00:16:46.560 You know, if affirmative action isn't achieving the results it was intended to achieve, Jared, why do Democrats insist on perpetuating it?

00:16:55.560 You know, I think the real problem is that it goes back to government trying to fix bad government policies with more government.

00:17:03.560 That's right.

00:17:04.560 So, you know, you see this just very much so with the, you know, the Fannie Mae Freddie Mac situation, the market crash of 2008.

00:17:11.560 They're trying to fix over-regulation with more over-reach and over-regulation.

00:17:17.560 So, you know, I think if you were to wind the clock back for some of these students who maybe did stand a shot at getting into these universities on their own merit.

00:17:26.560 You know, school vouchers, for instance, you know, Steven and I talk about this on the show all the time.

00:17:31.560 We've yet to hear a real solid argument against school vouchers.

00:17:35.560 So, say these students could get out of the ghettos, get out of the places, go to schools that actually provide real education, real training,

00:17:42.560 that aren't, you know, in the dumps and claiming to be underfunded all the time.

00:17:46.560 You know, more money will fix these schools, right, in the ghettos. 1.00

00:17:49.560 You know, they stand a chance to think of actually earning their merit to get into this college

00:17:55.560 and actually set themselves up to be much more successful than just, as we talked about, you know,

00:18:00.560 failing, dropping out and being stuck with a crap ton of student loans.

00:18:03.560 That's right. This happened in my own hometown.

00:18:05.560 Mayor de Blasio of New York, in a payoff to the teachers unions, tried to target the charter schools.

00:18:10.560 And there was vicious pushback because it was the only shot for mostly black, you know, heavily impoverished areas to get out of poverty

00:18:20.560 and have a shot of going to a good school and getting a good career and so on and so forth.

00:18:24.560 Yeah, that is really incredible.

00:18:26.560 So it's just, you know, the government creates a problem and then there's more government to solve the problem

00:18:32.560 and then there's more government to solve that problem.

00:18:34.560 So where does it end?

00:18:35.560 Well, it doesn't end because the issue adds up mainly to two things, money and votes.

00:18:41.560 So as long as we keep this affirmative action narrative going, as long as we keep this racial strife narrative going, 0.78

00:18:48.560 that's what you're going to get.

00:18:49.560 You're getting money and votes and they know how to keep this thing going.

00:18:52.560 Yeah, that's really interesting. And what do you think though about these awful racists, Clarence Thomas and Thomas Sowell?

00:18:58.560 You know, it is pretty incredible to watch both of these guys, some of the smartest guys in the country,

00:19:04.560 saying very much as Frederick Douglass said, leave us alone, stop trying to help.

00:19:09.560 That's really what it comes down to. You know, the thing is, is, you know, if they would just leave us alone, you know,

00:19:15.560 we would have a, we'd have a pretty good chance to catch up.

00:19:18.560 You know, I don't know if, you know, you might've seen some of us sprint sometime.

00:19:21.560 We've got some pretty explosive nature to be able to catch up if you just get out of our way.

00:19:25.560 You know, that's, that's all we ask.

00:19:27.560 Or really that is, that would be all we ask.

00:19:29.560 But unfortunately there is a system that keeps programming us to believe that, you know what, you have to keep asking.

00:19:37.560 You need this, this.

00:19:38.560 You need the cycles of dependency.

00:19:40.560 You have no, no will or talent of your own.

00:19:43.560 Yeah, absolutely.

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00:20:17.560 So the mainstream media all predicted before the 2016 election that if Donald Trump were elected president, the stock market would absolutely collapse.

00:20:39.560 I just Googled stocks if Trump is president.

00:20:44.560 CNBC, NBC, New York Times, CNN, they all predicted.

00:20:48.560 One quote, the stock market would almost certainly tank.

00:20:51.560 Do we have right now a live view from the floor of the New York Stock Exchange?

00:20:54.560 Wow, those coins just keep dropping.

00:21:12.560 That's great.

00:21:13.560 The Dow Jones Industrial Average broke 22,000 for the first time ever, in no small part because of a 4% surge in Apple stock.

00:21:22.560 The US added 178,000 jobs last month.

00:21:25.560 So, is this what President Trump meant by getting sick and tired of winning?

00:21:29.560 Are you sick and tired of winning yet?

00:21:32.560 Man, why you got to ask me about the start?

00:21:34.560 Do I look like Charles Payne?

00:21:36.560 Hold on, wait a minute, wait a minute.

00:21:37.560 How about, how about now?

00:21:39.560 Oh my, Charles, when did you get here?

00:21:41.560 That's a spitting image.

00:21:43.560 Hey, you know what?

00:21:45.560 Honestly, I don't pay that much against the stock because I'm afraid I'd be one of those people like sipping like milk and magnesia lattes and sprinkling with Rolaes.

00:21:52.560 I remember, but you know, it looks like, I don't know, I guess Boeing is doing pretty good.

00:21:58.560 And Trump talked about Boeing or the aircraft industry doing well under his administration.

00:22:03.560 It looks like with Boeing, that's reflecting that.

00:22:05.560 But you know, I think the bottom line though, is that if this, if this sustained, if this, if this trend sustains, hopefully people will start to feel it.

00:22:13.560 They can look at it.

00:22:14.560 They can look at it, tick and all that sort of stuff, but they have to feel it in their own economy.

00:22:18.560 They'll say, oh, this is great for, you know, the, for Wall Street and the holders and stuff like that.

00:22:23.560 But you know, when it, when, when am I going to feel it?

00:22:26.560 That's a great one.

00:22:27.560 I'm sorry.

00:22:28.560 I did get a little distracted because I was thinking about milk and magnesia lattes, but I think I, I think I got most of your point.

00:22:33.560 I think, you know, that is a really great point.

00:22:35.560 Roaming is this, say again, Zoe?

00:22:38.560 Was there a point in there?

00:22:40.560 Did I make a point?

00:22:41.560 Somewhere, somewhere in there.

00:22:43.560 I think you may have made a point.

00:22:45.560 Roaming, is this just a lucky break?

00:22:47.560 It's just caused by Apple surging 4% or are the fundamentals of our economy right now?

00:22:52.560 Are they strong?

00:22:53.560 Are they headed in the right direction?

00:22:54.560 Yeah.

00:22:55.560 I think they definitely are headed in the right direction.

00:22:57.560 I think this goes to show that no matter how much you call someone sexist, racist, a bigot, and an Islamophobe, turns out markets don't really care, right?

00:23:04.560 And if we look at President Trump's, his initiative toward jobs, I think that's one area where he has, he's really, you know, made an effort to keep his campaign promises.

00:23:11.560 I mean, we see that he's repealed, I think it's 16 regulations for every new one introduced toward businesses.

00:23:17.560 And I think that's definitely a step in the right direction.

00:23:19.560 And what's funny is that all of these news outlets who were so keen to get the message out that if Donald Trump is elected, it's going to be economic doomsday.

00:23:27.560 Now that we're actually seeing successes in the markets, we're seeing great job creation, lowest unemployment we've had in a long time, they're very silent on the issue.

00:23:34.560 They are very quiet.

00:23:35.560 That isn't great.

00:23:36.560 Why are they so quiet?

00:23:37.560 You know, they all got it wrong almost to a man. 0.80

00:23:39.560 Not gay Jared. 1.00

00:23:40.560 Is it because they are deceptive or are they just extremely stupid? 1.00

00:23:44.560 Well, they're wanting the same, I think, on this issue, but I think- 1.00

00:23:49.560 That's true.

00:23:50.560 It's not an either or question with the mainstream media.

00:23:52.560 No, why pick if you don't have to?

00:23:54.560 But, you know, it's really hard thing to comment on because it's just so volatile.

00:23:58.560 You know, it could be up-

00:23:59.560 It could be up today, down tomorrow, and it's kind of hard to-

00:24:02.560 Wait, does that say EP of Ladder with Crowder?

00:24:04.560 On my lower third?

00:24:06.560 I'm-

00:24:07.560 I'm the Morning Grindr host.

00:24:09.560 Ladder with Crowder is just a site.

00:24:10.560 Yeah, I've never even heard of Ladder with Crowder.

00:24:11.560 I only subscribe to Morning Grindr's.

00:24:13.560 Exactly.

00:24:14.560 Marshall, this is a huge oversight.

00:24:16.560 Jared, I'm sorry.

00:24:17.560 I'm just really shocked, actually, that, uh, that, uh, you know, Apple's doing well.

00:24:21.560 That's actually more shocking to me than anything else in this study.

00:24:24.560 That's true.

00:24:25.560 Do we have a live view of Twitter stock?

00:24:26.560 Is this still just burning and burning?

00:24:28.560 Just in free fall?

00:24:29.560 Yeah, it's actually through the bottom of the floor, I think, yeah.

00:24:32.560 Right when I get verified, Twitter's gonna go out of business.

00:24:35.560 That's terrible.

00:24:36.560 I guess, you know, I got verified for not writing a book, so that's-

00:24:39.560 See, I've applied to them, like, three times.

00:24:42.560 I've been rejected each time.

00:24:44.560 You're kidding me.

00:24:45.560 No.

00:24:46.560 Like 36,000 more.

00:24:47.560 Roaming millennials is way more famous than me.

00:24:48.560 Are you, that's, well, man, all right, now I see why that company's failing.

00:24:51.560 Okay, we gotta move on.

00:24:53.560 The Department of Homeland Security says it will waive more than three dozen laws and regulations,

00:24:58.560 most related to environmental review and the protection of wildlife, as it pushes to build

00:25:03.560 the border wall with Mexico.

00:25:04.560 We go now to Sarah McLachlan for a reaction.

00:25:09.560 The end of the line, I will be there for you while you take the time in the-

00:25:22.560 Thank you, Sarah.

00:25:23.560 That was a stirring report.

00:25:24.560 Naki Jared, is this an example of President Trump cutting through red tape or is this lawlessness

00:25:29.560 from the White House?

00:25:31.560 Oh, gosh, here's the thing.

00:25:32.560 There's always gonna be just mountains of mountains of red tape of this, and I think

00:25:36.560 when leftists realize they can't make an argument on the immigration front, it's just a natural

00:25:41.560 shift to say, oh, but their climate, you know, change reasons to shift, you know, away from

00:25:46.560 the border wall.

00:25:47.560 I remember Jeff Corrin, like a month ago, was saying, if you build this wall, it's really

00:25:51.560 gonna mess up the birds.

00:25:53.560 I don't know if you know what happens when birds encounter, you know, objects in the wilderness

00:25:58.560 such as a wall, but they tend to fly over them.

00:26:00.560 They fly-

00:26:01.560 They fly-

00:26:02.560 I have never heard that.

00:26:03.560 Are you a science denier, Naki Jared?

00:26:04.560 I've never heard of that.

00:26:05.560 I'm not a birdologist.

00:26:07.560 I've heard about that.

00:26:09.560 I think that's the word.

00:26:10.560 I think that's the right word.

00:26:11.560 But experience tells me they'll be alright.

00:26:12.560 So, this is just leftists getting their own way.

00:26:14.560 I mean, it's perfect for them, right?

00:26:17.560 Because it's something they oppose, and they can relate to climate change.

00:26:20.560 It's just a tactical shift.

00:26:21.560 Yes, exactly.

00:26:22.560 You know, but they get in their own way with this kind of stuff as well. 0.99

00:26:25.560 You can't build solar panels in the Mojave Desert because of some stupid endangered turtle. 0.99

00:26:31.560 So, tortoise, tortoise. 0.99

00:26:33.560 Man, that was rude of me.

00:26:34.560 Speciesist.

00:26:35.560 So, you know, they're gonna get in their own way with these things.

00:26:37.560 You rampant speciesist.

00:26:39.560 It's my greatest crime against humanity, but no, I don't think-

00:26:44.560 I think Trump's gonna have to do some of these things and cut through the BS, or at least, you know,

00:26:49.560 maybe talk about some of the funding for these programs and these people who wanna just, you know,

00:26:54.560 rail on the climate change issue for the wall.

00:26:57.560 Because I think you're gonna find most of it's unfounded, and it doesn't make any sense.

00:27:00.560 I have to push back on your species as Anake, Jared. 1.00

00:27:03.560 Roaming, if securing our borders might endanger half a dozen chupacabras, 0.95

00:27:07.560 shouldn't we just completely abandon the project?

00:27:10.560 Well, I mean, that's a great point, right?

00:27:12.560 This is about priorities.

00:27:13.560 We have arms traffickers, drug traffickers, documented, like, criminals who we've sent back and keep coming over.

00:27:22.560 But, you know, places like the EPA, oh, well, there's this species of rabbit that likes to, you know,

00:27:28.560 hop back and forth this area, therefore, we shouldn't do it.

00:27:31.560 Really?

00:27:32.560 Is that a legitimate argument against this?

00:27:34.560 And I think, you know, if nothing else, it proves the point that, hey, walls do work in restricting population movement, right?

00:27:40.560 That's a very good point.

00:27:41.560 You know, one time I was working.

00:27:43.560 I was working in local politics.

00:27:44.560 I was advising a company on how to build in this middle of nowhere New York, and we had to halt the entire project.

00:27:51.560 Would have brought a lot of jobs in because of a rattlesnake, which last time I checked, we don't want. 0.53

00:27:56.560 We want to get rid of them. 1.00

00:27:57.560 We want to kill them. 1.00

00:27:58.560 Apparently, we had to stop the whole. 1.00

00:27:59.560 They are a nuisance.

00:28:00.560 They are a pest. 0.52

00:28:01.560 Yeah. 0.92

00:28:02.560 So does Trump, I'm sorry, go ahead.

00:28:04.560 I was gonna say, if you remember, though, a lot of times when they do this and push these proposals, right?

00:28:09.560 The climate change, we can't do it because X, Y, and Z.

00:28:11.560 Have you noticed?

00:28:12.560 They don't really tend to name the actual species they're trying to save.

00:28:15.560 They speak in the most generic terms possible.

00:28:17.560 I remember there was a bridge in California, like, two years ago.

00:28:20.560 They built a new one because the old one was rusted out, and they had to tear down the other one.

00:28:24.560 But the other one was housing, like, home to, like, 800-something birds.

00:28:28.560 And it was gonna be, like, a $33 million project to remove these birds.

00:28:32.560 I cannot find in any article where they specified the birds.

00:28:37.560 I didn't even know there were 800 different birds.

00:28:39.560 Yeah, like, no, no, 800 of the same kind of bird mounted up into this old bridge.

00:28:44.560 $33 million to remove them.

00:28:46.560 That's, like, $40,000 a bird.

00:28:48.560 You know why they can't be too specific, though?

00:28:50.560 They can't be too specific.

00:28:51.560 Just buy new birds.

00:28:53.560 You can just buy new birds, yeah.

00:28:55.560 No, the reason they can't be too specific is that global warming might cause new bird species to go and live there.

00:29:00.560 So they have to prepare for that.

00:29:02.560 I mean, these shifts really affect the biosphere.

00:29:05.560 If they're bald eagles, you might get people on board.

00:29:08.560 But if you were to tell people, like, hey, actually, they're just pigeons, they'd be like, well, screw the pigeons. 1.00

00:29:14.560 Get rid of the damn bridge. 1.00

00:29:15.560 They do that in L.A. 1.00

00:29:17.560 They do that in L.A.

00:29:19.560 They divert a ton of our fresh water because of the delta smelt, which is just an anchovy.

00:29:24.560 There are these anchovies that are sucking up more fresh water than Californians are.

00:29:29.560 Terrible. 1.00

00:29:30.560 Disgusting. 0.96

00:29:31.560 But, I mean, all of these environmental regulations, I think, they're just the greatest symbol of, I think, white, upper-middle-class privilege that I can imagine. 0.94

00:29:38.560 That's right.

00:29:39.560 With this border wall, you have, like, low-income, let's say, African-American communities in places like Los Angeles and Texas whose jobs are being undercut by legal immigration.

00:29:48.560 I was like, sorry, guys, there's an owl.

00:29:51.560 Yeah, we don't care if you can feed your family. 0.98

00:29:54.560 Yeah.

00:29:55.560 Just the owls.

00:29:56.560 The owl needs to feed its family.

00:29:58.560 That's true.

00:29:59.560 Do you think Trump has to do this?

00:30:01.560 Zo, does Donald Trump need to build the wall if he doesn't want to lose his supporters?

00:30:05.560 You know, I think I'm going to get a lot of people mad at me when I say that.

00:30:08.560 I haven't really been a big build the wall guy.

00:30:11.560 I'm not against it.

00:30:12.560 Yeah.

00:30:13.560 My whole thing is just like, look.

00:30:14.560 You care more about the owls.

00:30:15.560 I understand.

00:30:16.560 I'm with you, Zo.

00:30:17.560 You know, they're cute and cuddly, you know, despite, you know, who, who.

00:30:21.560 Anyway, you know, my thing is stop giving out the goodies that they come over for.

00:30:26.560 You know, the education, the healthcare, the jobs and stuff like that.

00:30:31.560 Stop leaving out the sugar.

00:30:32.560 So, you know, that way, you know, they stop losing the incentive to come over.

00:30:35.560 And if you do see some people trying to sneak into our country from there, even though they know they're not going to get anything, chances are that person trying to sneak in is probably trying to blow something up.

00:30:44.560 Or they're sneaking in a culo full of cocaine.

00:30:47.560 That is a good test.

00:30:48.560 One of those very bad, one very good.

00:30:50.560 I'm kidding.

00:30:51.560 They're both terrible. 0.99

00:30:52.560 They're terrible.

00:30:53.560 Roaming, does he have to build the wall?

00:30:55.560 You know what?

00:30:56.560 I'm kind of like Zo, right?

00:30:59.560 I mean, I'm not someone who thought like, oh, a wall would be a great idea before it was mentioned.

00:31:02.560 But, you know, when you think about it, it does kind of make sense.

00:31:05.560 Like, hey, you have this border.

00:31:06.560 It's very porous.

00:31:07.560 You have a lot of movement going back and forth unauthorized.

00:31:09.560 Why not?

00:31:10.560 And to me, it's not just about the actual physical wall.

00:31:12.560 It's about, you know, hey, patrols, greater monitoring, things like that.

00:31:16.560 I think Trump does need to build it.

00:31:18.560 You know, it's something that he campaigned on greatly.

00:31:20.560 I think it's something that a lot of people who are feeling like rule of law doesn't apply in America anymore.

00:31:26.560 It's something that they're counting on.

00:31:28.560 And you know what?

00:31:29.560 There's a lot of that portion is already walled anyway.

00:31:31.560 It's not as a, I think, as huge a project as some people are making it out to be acting as if there's like no separation at all going on.

00:31:38.560 I think he does need to do it.

00:31:41.560 Well, you know, speaking of the threat from illegal aliens, NASA is currently seeking to hire someone with a secret security clearance and, quote, advanced knowledge of planetary protection to lead the agency's planetary protection capability.

00:31:55.560 Now, this appears to be a change in course from NASA's primary duties under President Obama.

00:32:00.560 Do we have that interview?

00:32:01.560 When I became the NASA administrator or before I became the NASA administrator, he charged me with three things.

00:32:06.560 One was he wanted me to help re-inspire children to want to get into science and math.

00:32:11.560 He wanted me to expand our international relationships.

00:32:14.560 That's really important.

00:32:17.560 So which poses a greater danger to the United States, extraterrestrials or Muslim terrorists? 1.00

00:32:24.560 Muslim extraterrestrials. 0.98

00:32:26.560 I'd forgotten that third category.

00:32:29.560 And I like having George Jefferson as the dude who's going to do that for him.

00:32:35.560 We say, we say they're coming.

00:32:38.560 Here comes ET to bring us his space aids.

00:32:42.560 It is really reaching across the aisle, a real melding of the Obama and Trump administration priorities.

00:32:48.560 Now, again, Jared, we're making nice with Muslims.

00:32:51.560 We're protecting against the Martians. 1.00

00:32:53.560 But the last time that humans traveled out of low Earth orbit was 1972.

00:32:58.560 Why aren't we exploring space anymore?

00:33:00.560 Hmm.

00:33:01.560 Is it because of fear of the Muslim extraterrestrials?

00:33:04.560 It could be.

00:33:05.560 But if you've got a protector of the universe out there as they're planning,

00:33:09.560 and I can only picture at this point Al Gore with spandex and a green mullet, I wouldn't want to leave the Earth either.

00:33:18.560 That's something you don't want to encounter.

00:33:20.560 That's the making of a horror movie you can't take back.

00:33:23.560 That is a fair point.

00:33:24.560 What a job to have, by the way.

00:33:25.560 Protector of the planet.

00:33:27.560 That is a pretty good touch.

00:33:29.560 Are these the kind of jobs Obama was adding when he was inflating the work numbers?

00:33:35.560 Yeah.

00:33:36.560 Because this is a reach.

00:33:37.560 This is a reach at best.

00:33:38.560 I want to go back and look at those jobs numbers under the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

00:33:42.560 It's paid well.

00:33:43.560 From what I saw, this person's paid well.

00:33:45.560 It's true, actually.

00:33:46.560 The salary is almost...

00:33:48.560 Like $187,000 or something like that.

00:33:50.560 Yeah, that's right.

00:33:51.560 Almost $200,000 a year to protect the planet.

00:33:53.560 Which, you know, frankly...

00:33:54.560 Are they getting funding from Ted Turner?

00:33:57.560 Yeah, it might be.

00:33:58.560 To fund Captain Planet?

00:33:59.560 Are they getting funding from Ted Turner to protect for Captain Planet?

00:34:02.560 Well, because of Citizens United, we can't look into all this dirty money in government,

00:34:06.560 but we'll have to look into it.

00:34:07.560 Roaming, when we ventured out to explore the moon, all we found was dirt and rock.

00:34:12.560 The same is true of Texas.

00:34:14.560 Does our apathy about exploring imply that we have gone soft as a civilization?

00:34:21.560 You know what?

00:34:22.560 I've heard that argument, even from conservatives.

00:34:24.560 The fact that Russia is making gains against the US in the space race.

00:34:28.560 And you know what?

00:34:29.560 As someone who likes space, I like science.

00:34:32.560 It's still really hard, I think, to justify that amount of spending, just in general,

00:34:37.560 when we have such a huge deficit, when we have so many problems on Earth in the country.

00:34:41.560 But you know, I think the biggest question here is that if it's a planetary protector,

00:34:45.560 why is only the US looking into this, right?

00:34:48.560 I mean, shouldn't other countries be kind of going into this?

00:34:50.560 And I'm not saying we build some sort of Death Star, but you know,

00:34:53.560 if we're actually thinking of protecting the whole planet,

00:34:56.560 why is it always the US that's taking on these initiatives, right?

00:34:59.560 I mean, if it's just an American job for NASA, I think we, you know,

00:35:02.560 a sort of protective bubble just around the US is more feasible, in my opinion.

00:35:06.560 Other countries can fend for themselves.

00:35:08.560 You know, Roaming, you might not go this far.

00:35:10.560 Oh, sorry, go ahead, Jared.

00:35:11.560 Right, right.

00:35:12.560 I'm open-minded.

00:35:13.560 I support the Death Star. 0.97

00:35:14.560 I agree with you.

00:35:15.560 I agree with you.

00:35:16.560 Let's not be cowardly here.

00:35:17.560 Imperialism.

00:35:18.560 Hey, but I've got to ask though-

00:35:20.560 It's infrastructure.

00:35:21.560 It creates jobs.

00:35:23.560 But I've got to ask, you know, because when they keep looking out in the space,

00:35:26.560 and they're always saying this planet could potentially support life,

00:35:29.560 it's always could potentially support life,

00:35:31.560 they haven't substantiated that there is a organic material out there,

00:35:35.560 or something that is supporting life out there.

00:35:37.560 So why are they worried about some sort of organic material coming here

00:35:41.560 when they haven't really proven that there's something else that supports life out there?

00:35:45.560 Yeah, well, we can't focus on protecting from terrestrial life

00:35:48.560 until we first project against the evil Martians. 0.97

00:35:51.560 You have to get your priorities in order.

00:35:53.560 I mean, the idea of making another planet habitable is cool,

00:35:57.560 but I mean, if you look on Earth,

00:35:58.560 we still haven't figured out a way to make, like, Sub-Saharan Africa habitable, right?

00:36:01.560 Or Chicago or Detroit, yeah.

00:36:03.560 Right, I mean-

00:36:05.560 Dang.

00:36:06.560 That's true.

00:36:07.560 You're right.

00:36:08.560 Dang.

00:36:09.560 Maybe we could turn our view inside and make our own societies better.

00:36:13.560 That's a really wholesome point to end on.

00:36:15.560 Get out of here, you. 0.99

00:36:16.560 It was great to have you. 0.99

00:36:17.560 Roaming millennial, not gay Jared and Joe Rachel. 0.71

00:36:20.560 Now it's time for final thoughts.

00:36:22.560 Like so many government initiatives,

00:36:31.560 a legal structure that began with apparently good intentions

00:36:34.560 has wrought unintended consequences that are unjust

00:36:37.560 not merely to certain disenfranchised groups,

00:36:40.560 but even to the people it intended to help.

00:36:42.560 The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

00:36:44.560 These statistical, moral, and legal arguments to end affirmative action are overwhelming,

00:36:49.560 but here's the simplest.

00:36:51.560 The Justice Department is entrusted with the responsibility to stop discrimination

00:36:55.560 and protect civil rights for everybody.

00:36:57.560 Perhaps, finally, it ought to be able to do just that.

00:37:00.560 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:37:01.560 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

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The Michael Knowles Show - August 02, 2017

Ep. 3 - Affirmative Action： Warm And Fuzzy Race Discrimination

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