The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 302 - Jihadi Dreamers In Search Of A Better Life

00:00:00.000 Western women who left the U.S. and Great Britain to join ISIS and slaughter innocents now want to return home after our Western warriors killed all of their husbands. 1.00

00:00:11.220 These poor terrorist jihadi dreamers are just looking for a better life, and we will analyze whether or not they should be welcome back in. 1.00

00:00:19.960 Then leftist ignoramuses try to burn down a statue of the wrong General Lee, and Jussie Smollett surrenders to cops for his hate hoax, and the mailbag.

00:00:30.080 So much to get to. I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:39.240 Those poor terrorist women, they're just dreamers. They just want a better life. 1.00

00:00:44.740 How could you, you heartless conservatives, not want to let them back in? 0.85

00:00:50.540 They have kids with their terrorist husbands who we killed because they were in ISIS.

00:00:54.500 They've got little kids, little dreamers, other jihadi dreamers. Come on, how dare you? 1.00

00:00:59.620 We will get to all of this. We'll talk about Hoda Muthana and Shamima Begum, Western terrorist ladies who are trying to come back into our country. 0.96

00:01:09.340 And fortunately, we have proper leadership in those countries right now to try to keep them out, but who knows what would happen if the left were in charge.

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00:02:45.020 So now you had—we actually talked about this about a year or two ago.

00:02:50.580 You had this influx of women, these radicalized Islamic women in the United States, in Great Britain, throughout continental Europe,

00:02:59.840 who during the rise of the Islamic State actually left to go fight.

00:03:03.620 Not to go fight the Islamic State, but to fight on behalf of the Islamic State.

00:03:07.280 So now, because President Trump promised we would crush ISIS militarily, and we have, now these women don't have a state. 0.99

00:03:15.540 ISIS barely exists anymore, if it exists at all.

00:03:18.560 Now they want to come back and say, whoopsie-daisy, let's pretend that nothing happened.

00:03:22.440 Here is a woman, Hoda Mutana.

00:03:24.720 She left at the age of 19, left Alabama, the good old USA, moved to Syria, married an Australian jihadi who died within three months.

00:03:33.840 Then she married another jihadi, had a child with him who's now 18 months old.

00:03:38.440 That guy got killed as well.

00:03:40.080 Good job, Western forces.

00:03:42.120 And now she wants to come back to Alabama. 0.97

00:03:44.060 Here she is.

00:03:44.880 When I was 17, I had an account on Twitter, and we were all just normal Muslims speaking together.

00:03:54.700 And, like, we were just learning off of each other, feeding off of each other.

00:03:57.320 We heard the caliphate was announced, and then we interpreted ourselves that it was obligatory upon us to go. 0.84

00:04:04.980 In November of 2014, she left her family and friends in Alabama, crossing into Syria.

00:04:09.620 We didn't see much, but what we did see, when we did see it, we would see dead bodies in public.

00:04:16.680 You know, they'd see dead bodies, but they knew that they were going to see dead bodies,

00:04:20.420 because they were on these Twitter threads and in these Internet groups that were talking about this.

00:04:24.940 That's why they left.

00:04:27.320 Who wants to stay in boring, peaceful, free, just Alabama, when you can move to Syria and help Islamic militants slaughter innocents, 0.96

00:04:35.060 which is what this woman did. 1.00

00:04:36.960 And, by the way, it's not like she was eight or nine years old here, was captured, brought over there.

00:04:40.680 She was 19 years old when she left the United States.

00:04:43.740 She helped to spread ISIS propaganda on Twitter.

00:04:46.320 She tweeted out, quote, Americans wake up, go on drive-bys, and spill all of their blood. 0.96

00:04:52.680 We have a hard time in the West believing that people can think this way, because we live in a basically decadent, secular, liberal society.

00:05:03.060 So we have no conception of why people, look at this cute little girl.

00:05:08.140 Oh, what is she now, 21, 22 years old?

00:05:11.500 Well, she seems normal.

00:05:12.680 She's talking in a normal way.

00:05:13.920 We have no conception of anyone truly believing that people should go on drive-bys and spill all of the blood, as this woman said on Twitter.

00:05:26.400 And so we have this vulnerability.

00:05:30.040 We don't have a natural defense against these people who are vicious, vile terrorists, who want to burn down everything that we have, who want to spill our blood in the street.

00:05:38.920 Her words, not mine, what we want to do is just let them come back in.

00:05:44.640 That's the compassionate thing.

00:05:46.040 That's the nice thing to do.

00:05:48.180 That's the imprudent thing to do.

00:05:49.980 What does this woman, Hoda Mousana, what does she think her punishment should be for leaving the United States and going to fight for ISIS? 1.00

00:05:57.640 Maybe therapy lessons.

00:06:00.020 Maybe a process that will ensure us that we'll never do this again.

00:06:04.740 Jail time, I don't know if that has an effect on people.

00:06:10.000 Yeah, jail time, I don't think that's, no, nobody, what effect would jail time?

00:06:15.360 Let's not even consider that one.

00:06:16.940 How about just some nice therapy?

00:06:19.340 Maybe, you know, honestly, maybe a good day at the spa, kind of let me get some of my troubles out of here, just relax a little bit, de-stress.

00:06:28.400 Maybe that would help.

00:06:29.200 The gulions on this girl to be able to look an interviewer straight in the face and say, yes, I called for the spilling of American blood in the name of the Islamic State. 1.00

00:06:40.220 I left and renounced my country.

00:06:42.520 I joined a major international terrorist group and helped people slaughter innocents throughout the Middle East. 0.92

00:06:48.840 I think I probably just need a little touch of therapy.

00:06:51.300 She does need some therapy. 1.00

00:06:52.380 She also needs some prison. 1.00

00:06:53.440 Listen, this is, we've talked about this, and this is an issue actually on the left and the right.

00:06:59.300 You remember before Christmas, President Trump signed that major spring the criminals out of prison bill, the first step act, and some people on the right cheered this on because nobody anymore has a sense of what prison is for.

00:07:13.460 And this woman asks, she says, well, we don't really know.

00:07:16.720 What is the effect even of prison on people?

00:07:18.740 What could it possibly do?

00:07:20.620 Why would we ever punish jihadi criminal militants and enemies of the state? 0.98

00:07:25.720 We shouldn't punish them.

00:07:27.300 We just need to rehabilitate them.

00:07:29.220 There's just some therapy.

00:07:30.180 That's fine.

00:07:31.000 No.

00:07:31.460 The purpose of a criminal justice system is justice for criminals.

00:07:36.100 It's not therapy.

00:07:37.320 It's not rehabilitation primarily.

00:07:38.460 It's not even deterrence primarily, though those are important things.

00:07:44.020 It is punishment.

00:07:45.580 It is retribution for a crime.

00:07:47.760 This woman, she says, oh, I'm sorry, I regret it.

00:07:49.940 Yeah, I shouldn't have done it.

00:07:51.180 But she clearly doesn't have real remorse.

00:07:55.560 She doesn't understand that she has committed a crime and she needs to accept punishment for that crime. 0.55

00:08:02.280 Unfortunately, we in the West don't understand that either.

00:08:04.620 And I fear that when you don't have knuckle-dragging right-wingers like Donald Trump in charge or conservatives in charge in Britain, you're going to have people say, oh, come back in.

00:08:14.860 I bet you if you ask this question to the Democrat primary field, should we let this poor young woman back in, this poor young woman of the Islamic faith who was just – she got caught up. 1.00

00:08:26.280 She swept up in something.

00:08:28.040 Her husband died, her terrorist husband. 1.00

00:08:30.900 Her other husband died, her other terrorist husband. 0.87

00:08:33.600 We just let her back in. 0.53

00:08:35.320 I bet you if you ask the Democrat presidential field, all of them would favor letting this woman come back in, maybe give her a little therapy, maybe put her in a program to rehabilitate herself. 1.00

00:08:47.360 This is a big fear because it's creeping into the right wing and it is infiltrating our Western thought.

00:08:53.600 The West has been slowly destroying itself, committing suicide, a masochistic society.

00:08:59.060 And I see this not just as one particular political ideology but infecting the whole society.

00:09:06.240 And down the road, I totally see a world in which we let these people come back in.

00:09:10.540 In Britain, there's a question as to whether a totally unrepentant British jihadi lady could come back in. 1.00

00:09:17.100 Her name is Shamima Begum.

00:09:18.900 And she sees no reason why the United Kingdom shouldn't welcome her back with open arms.

00:09:24.160 It's kind of heartbreaking to read.

00:09:27.180 I thought it would – my family made it sound like it would be a lot easier for me to come back to the UK.

00:09:31.220 She got a letter saying she's probably not going to be allowed back into the UK.

00:09:35.180 It's heartbreaking.

00:09:36.360 Heartbreaking to read.

00:09:38.640 I mean, why – her family told her.

00:09:40.840 By the way, did you hear that little line?

00:09:42.560 This line hasn't been getting covered very much.

00:09:44.860 Her family told her it would be easier to come back into the UK.

00:09:47.760 So did she have her parents' permission to go over to Syria and join the Islamic State?

00:09:52.220 It certainly sounds that way.

00:09:54.400 How is that family still permitted to stay in the United Kingdom?

00:09:56.920 How has that family not been summarily arrested and deported and sent back to whatever godforsaken ISIS hellhole they apparently support? 0.68

00:10:05.600 Now, this woman left the United Kingdom at a slightly younger age than the other one, than Hoda Mutana.

00:10:12.800 This one, Shamima Begum, left the UK at age 15. 0.99

00:10:16.500 She became a poster girl for ISIS in Europe, women from Europe who go over and join the Islamic State. 0.63

00:10:23.840 She married a Dutch-born or a Dutch resident jihadi over there.

00:10:28.680 He was later killed, too, because we have done a very good job at killing these jihadis.

00:10:32.820 And now she has no remorse.

00:10:35.280 She has shown no remorse.

00:10:38.400 I regret it because it's changed me as a person.

00:10:42.240 It's made me stronger, tougher.

00:10:44.960 You know, I married my husband.

00:10:46.720 I wouldn't have found someone like him back in the UK.

00:10:49.040 I had my kids.

00:10:50.480 You know, I did have a good time there.

00:10:52.400 She had a good time.

00:10:55.640 You know, listen, for some people, having a good time is not their idea of having a good time.

00:11:02.360 You know, maybe they prefer to work or they prefer to be productive.

00:11:06.000 Very few people would consider slaughtering innocents all around the Middle East as their idea of a good time.

00:11:13.100 But that's what she calls a good time.

00:11:14.160 And she says she wouldn't have found someone like her husband back in the United Kingdom, which I'm not even sure if that's true anymore.

00:11:21.480 According to top European Union terror officials, the United Kingdom is home to some 25,000 Islamist extremists.

00:11:29.380 Why Rome when you could go find a beautiful husband at home, a beautiful jihadi terrorist husband, which is apparently what she was looking for. 1.00

00:11:37.360 Totally unrepentant.

00:11:39.260 She wouldn't have had her kid. 0.99

00:11:40.920 We shouldn't allow her or her kid to come here into the West either. 1.00

00:11:43.940 There are so many in the West who would let these people back in. 1.00

00:11:50.680 We will analyze why in a second.

00:11:52.980 Then we've got to get to, obviously, Jesse Smollett, who, speaking of criminal justice, has just turned himself over to the Chicago police.

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00:13:23.860 You know, the liberal Western motivation or inclination to accepting back anyone who, even if you're unrepentant, even if you're unremorseful, just say, no, come in.

00:13:38.160 It's okay, terrorist lady. 0.99

00:13:39.600 It's, look, you've been oppressed.

00:13:42.500 You just, we welcome you with open arms.

00:13:45.140 This actually comes from a good place.

00:13:46.800 This idea comes in part from Western civilization.

00:13:50.100 It comes from our seven heavenly virtues, prudence, justice, temperance, fortitude, faith, hope, and charity.

00:13:56.900 And it explicitly comes from charity.

00:13:59.040 We want to be compassionate.

00:14:00.620 We want to be perfectly merciful.

00:14:03.320 But the trouble creeps in when you choose just one virtue and you take it to its perfect extreme, to the exclusion of all of the other virtues.

00:14:11.980 What is virtuous about that?

00:14:13.440 Adam Smith, the moral philosopher and the economic philosopher, said that mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent.

00:14:21.300 That's another way of looking at it.

00:14:23.400 And let's not forget that one of our virtues, one of the heavenly virtues, is prudence, to say nothing of justice.

00:14:31.880 Prudence.

00:14:32.820 Is it prudent for the United Kingdom to allow 25,000 likely Islamist radicals to live in their country? 0.99

00:14:39.740 Is that prudent?

00:14:40.920 That doesn't seem prudent, and prudence is a virtue.

00:14:43.440 Is it just to allow someone who dedicated herself to slaughtering innocent people in Syria, to fighting against what is ostensibly her own country? 0.81

00:14:54.540 Is that just to just let her come back in without any sort of consequence whatsoever?

00:15:02.040 Maybe a day at the spa, maybe a little therapy, and then, okay, we're all evening.

00:15:05.600 Of course not.

00:15:07.440 It is a totally inverted culture that would consider it good and just and virtuous to take in these unrepentant terrorists who have betrayed their countries.

00:15:20.800 But we've just totally lost our balance of the virtues.

00:15:26.060 And so now, when people virtue signal, they're usually vice signaling.

00:15:30.100 They're usually, maybe they're signaling one virtue to the exclusion of all the others.

00:15:34.200 And because our moral discourse has been so degraded, there's very little way to open their eyes to convince them otherwise.

00:15:40.900 They just don't possess the vocabulary for it.

00:15:43.180 I mean, you still have some people today, even on the right, defending Jussie Smollett.

00:15:48.540 Is it Smollett or Smollett?

00:15:50.160 I don't know.

00:15:50.660 I've never watched the show.

00:15:52.160 I've never heard of him before this ridiculous incident.

00:15:55.560 So I guess it worked in so much as he got some publicity out of it.

00:15:58.780 Jussie Smollett, you know, he staged this hate hoax.

00:16:02.480 He pretended he sent a hate letter to himself.

00:16:05.340 When that didn't get enough attention, he paid these two Nigerian buddies of his to come attack him and pretend to be white racists.

00:16:11.880 Then he went on television crying, indicting half of the country as awful racists, indicting the whole country as hopelessly bigoted.

00:16:19.160 And then he got found out.

00:16:21.720 I, even in the last few days, have urged caution on jumping to conclusions.

00:16:27.260 Now it seems the conclusion has been reached.

00:16:29.260 Here is the Chicago Police Department Superintendent, Eddie Johnson, talking about their findings now that they've finally booked Jussie Smollett for a false police report and a hate hoax.

00:16:39.920 How can an individual who's been embraced by the city of Chicago turn around and slap everyone in this city in the face by making these false claims?

00:16:51.600 Bogus police reports cause real harm.

00:16:55.920 Of course they do.

00:16:56.740 They cause real harm.

00:16:57.960 There were some people, you know, I really like Seth Mandel, so I don't want to attack him.

00:17:02.620 I don't want to criticize him too much.

00:17:04.860 But he sent out an absurd tweet the other day.

00:17:08.320 He said, you know, he's a right wingman.

00:17:11.380 I mean, he's firmly ensconced on the right.

00:17:13.560 And he says, I just think that Jussie Smollett, it's clear he's got a lot of psychological problems.

00:17:20.160 And he's just, maybe we should go easy on him.

00:17:23.500 Maybe, come on, let's not be so harsh.

00:17:25.220 Actually, even his wife, Bethany, who's been on my show, called him out for this and said, no, sorry, Seth.

00:17:31.000 Not, no way, pal.

00:17:32.280 Well, and a lot of people on the right just got Ben came out and said, absolutely not.

00:17:36.060 You've got this one wrong.

00:17:37.100 It comes from a good place to say, oh, let's be the bigger person.

00:17:41.400 It comes from genuine empathy, by the way, which the right has in far greater abundance than the left has.

00:17:48.980 The left is not terribly empathetic.

00:17:50.800 They were saying, stone those Covington kids, tar and feather them.

00:17:55.540 They're awful.

00:17:57.060 We need a coup d'etat to take Trump out.

00:17:58.760 I mean, the left wing is vicious without any sense of compassion or empathy.

00:18:03.200 The right has a lot of empathy.

00:18:04.620 Why?

00:18:05.140 Because studies show that the right understands the left better than the left understands the right.

00:18:10.380 And I do have empathy for Jussie Smollett.

00:18:12.960 I actually, I don't have empathy for him as a matter of politics.

00:18:16.080 I have empathy for him as a sometime actor.

00:18:19.240 It's real tough out there for actors.

00:18:21.060 And you've got to, even if you can get a hit for a little while, it's not too long before you're in obscurity.

00:18:27.000 And he's feeling that he might get written off the show.

00:18:29.540 He said he wasn't happy with the amount of money he was being paid.

00:18:33.380 Being an actor is a tough life.

00:18:34.860 I have a lot of empathy for him.

00:18:37.740 However, we cannot go easy on this guy.

00:18:41.260 We cannot let him get off the hook for this.

00:18:43.920 We cannot let him avoid prison.

00:18:45.800 We cannot let him keep his career.

00:18:48.680 Why?

00:18:49.140 Because in this case, mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent.

00:18:53.200 And mercy to the guilty in the Jussie Smollett case is cruelty to real victims of real racially motivated crimes or sexually motivated crimes or whatever.

00:19:05.760 The real victims of these crimes will now be looked on with skepticism.

00:19:10.700 That's unavoidable.

00:19:13.480 And it's right.

00:19:14.960 I mean, there's no way around that.

00:19:16.760 It's inescapable.

00:19:18.060 You can't put the genie back in the bottle.

00:19:20.220 Actions have consequences.

00:19:21.540 Jussie Smollett's actions have consequences.

00:19:25.260 This is why crimes, once they're revealed, must be punished.

00:19:29.360 Because let's say that we don't punish Jussie Smollett.

00:19:31.780 Let's say we're really just all compassion, all mercy, no sense of justice, no sense of prudence.

00:19:37.880 Well, what does that do?

00:19:39.740 It gives everybody license to fake their own hate crime, to try to steal for themselves the social currency of victimhood.

00:19:49.660 And what else does it mean?

00:19:51.200 It means that rational people are no longer going to trust people who claim to have been attacked, even if they really have.

00:20:00.160 They just won't believe it anymore.

00:20:03.300 If there is no punishment, this will create a perverse incentive, and the hoaxes will multiply.

00:20:10.140 They will multiply to no end, and the victims will not be treated seriously.

00:20:14.640 They won't be taken seriously.

00:20:15.960 That's just reality.

00:20:18.740 And we can lament that.

00:20:20.100 I think conservatives are uncomfortable with that, even.

00:20:22.320 The left is certainly uncomfortable with that.

00:20:24.920 We want to say, oh, gosh, we're all fallen.

00:20:27.940 We're all broken.

00:20:29.060 We should have just total mercy, total compassion.

00:20:33.320 Well, that's fine at a personal level.

00:20:35.780 That's a good thing at a personal level.

00:20:38.680 But as a matter of society, as a matter of civil government, you simply cannot let that persist.

00:20:46.460 Order will totally dissolve.

00:20:49.000 Anarchy will be loosed on the world.

00:20:51.420 It will totally distort our culture more so than it even has been.

00:20:56.060 You know, even some members of the mainstream media are aware of this, even people like Don Lemon on CNN.

00:21:04.180 They're unrepentant.

00:21:06.140 Nancy Pelosi didn't apologize for her tweet where she indicted the whole country as bigoted and believed Jussie Smollett's lie, hook, line, and sinker. 0.85

00:21:14.480 But she did slowly take it down.

00:21:16.700 Now Don Lemon on CNN is trying to change the story.

00:21:19.800 He's trying to say that CNN was, oh, they never.

00:21:22.760 What are you talking about?

00:21:23.660 They never suggested that the Jussie Smollett story should be believed immediately.

00:21:28.560 Here's Don Lemon trying to rewrite history.

00:21:30.540 You know, it's been interesting trying to report on this particular story.

00:21:36.600 And we've done several reports on this show, just the facts straight.

00:21:39.760 Here's what we know.

00:21:40.480 Here's what we don't know.

00:21:41.560 Because you don't want to get into a place where you are just sort of speculating about things.

00:21:48.740 Right.

00:21:49.440 And we don't know what happened.

00:21:51.160 And a lot of the media did that and in politics too.

00:21:53.160 A lot of the media.

00:21:53.860 If you look at every single report on this show, it'll show you that it was just straight things.

00:21:58.180 No, CNN was just all facts, right?

00:22:00.960 Except they weren't.

00:22:01.880 And Newsbusters pointed this out.

00:22:03.720 Newsbusters out of the Media Research Center.

00:22:05.580 Great resource.

00:22:07.880 They showed that Don Lemon's colleague, Brooke Baldwin, reacted with horror to the story.

00:22:13.300 Bought it hook, line, and sinker.

00:22:15.280 And by the way, even to Don Lemon's claim, we just reported the facts.

00:22:20.920 If CNN didn't buy the story, then why did they give it so much airtime?

00:22:26.320 They breathlessly talked about this Jussie Smollett thing for days and days.

00:22:31.840 Well, if they said, well, we're going to hold our fire here, why didn't they hold their fire?

00:22:37.800 Because obviously they were creating the narrative and perpetuating the narrative that he should be believed, that he was right, that he was telling the truth, and that America is a bigoted place.

00:22:45.860 That's all it was.

00:22:47.940 When the Jussie Smollett story came out, if you look back at the archives of my show, I didn't cover it.

00:22:54.240 Now, why didn't I cover it?

00:22:55.560 Because it wasn't news?

00:22:56.940 No, because it would have been irresponsible to cover it at that time.

00:22:59.920 I didn't want to jump the gun and say that the guy was a hoaxer, even though I knew with 99% certainty that this was a hoax, because Chicago is not MAGA country.

00:23:11.100 But it would have been irresponsible to do it.

00:23:12.860 What CNN did was act irresponsibly.

00:23:14.460 What Nancy Pelosi did was act irresponsibly. 1.00

00:23:18.320 And now they're trying to rewrite history.

00:23:20.860 Okay, hypocrisy is the tribute that vice pays to virtue.

00:23:23.900 Perhaps we should be happy, at least, that they're trying to rewrite history now, rather than double down.

00:23:30.400 I think some other people are doubling down and being completely acquiescent to Jussie Smollett.

00:23:38.400 I think it's actually better to do what the media are doing, not take responsibility, lie about how you covered it, but at least say, this was wrong, this is terrible, this guy's got to be punished for it.

00:23:48.800 But we have to take a lesson from a social level, from a level of government and society.

00:23:56.700 Crime has to be punished.

00:23:58.140 We have lost this sense entirely.

00:24:01.680 We don't punish any of our criminals anymore.

00:24:04.820 Both parties are giving into this.

00:24:06.640 This is from a moral failure, a crack up of our ethical discourse that makes us not understand what the words criminal or the words justice mean.

00:24:16.120 And people on the right need to hear it just as much as people on the left.

00:24:19.480 But when the people on the left get this stuff wrong, it's much more hilarious because the left is so, so misunderstands a reality.

00:24:30.380 This is one of my favorite stories in the news today.

00:24:33.780 We have to get to it before the mailbag.

00:24:35.880 So you know that I'm in South Bend, Indiana right now.

00:24:38.300 I'm outside of Notre Dame.

00:24:39.280 I'm going to be giving a speech tonight at Notre Dame because the university at Notre Dame has these beautiful 18th century murals from Luigi Grigori.

00:24:51.420 He was a Vatican portraitist.

00:24:53.440 Beautiful murals of Christopher Columbus.

00:24:57.380 And the university now, up to and including the university president, Father Jenkins, has decided they're going to cover up all of the murals so that nobody can see them.

00:25:06.660 They're not – they can't move them because they're painted on the wall so they'd have to go full Taliban and just knock the whole walls down and destroy art entirely. 0.98

00:25:15.900 So what they're going to do is just cover it up so that nobody can see them.

00:25:19.020 And this hatred against Christopher Columbus is based not only on moral idiocy but on historical ignorance.

00:25:25.840 They don't know what Christopher Columbus did.

00:25:28.000 They accuse him of things he never did.

00:25:29.760 They accuse him of things that other people did.

00:25:31.780 They don't understand the significance of Columbus in history.

00:25:34.500 They have no gratitude for what he did and how they stand on his shoulders, the shoulder of that giant, and think that they are – they don't realize that they're dwarfs. 0.91

00:25:43.380 They think that they're just giant people themselves.

00:25:45.480 And this ignorant activist has reared its ugly head, again, in North Carolina, where vandals have destroyed a statue of General Lee, but not that General Lee.

00:25:59.960 They destroyed – these guys went out and destroyed a statue of General William C. Lee, who was a soldier in World War II.

00:26:08.020 He's considered the father of the Airborne, and these idiots thought that it was a statue of General Robert E. Lee, and they thought that it would be right to destroy that statue.

00:26:18.280 So now they went after this poor guy from World War II.

00:26:20.700 Here is Mark Johnson, who's the curator of the William C. Lee Airborne Museum in Dunn, North Carolina, explaining the vandalism.

00:26:27.300 This is a hometown grown boy here that turned out to be an international hero in World War II.

00:26:33.600 So to come and try to destroy his statue is just an insult to everybody.

00:26:38.160 I think it was a big mistake.

00:26:39.680 Why would you do something like this?

00:26:40.840 It's really just to irritate people at you.

00:26:42.680 This is not a Civil War museum, and this is not Robert E. Lee.

00:26:47.020 This is General William C. Lee.

00:26:48.760 So I was hurt.

00:26:49.500 Yeah, sorry, guys, you got it wrong by a century.

00:26:53.340 You were off by 80 years.

00:26:55.700 What did they do?

00:26:56.380 Someone doused the statue in a flammable liquid.

00:26:59.440 They set it on fire.

00:27:00.860 By the way, we've been talking about genealogy a little bit recently because I found I'm very likely a direct male descendant, albeit a bastard, of Henry VIII.

00:27:12.280 William C. Lee has no relation whatsoever to Robert E. Lee.

00:27:16.000 There is no connection.

00:27:19.500 There is no philosophical connection, no historical connection, no family connection.

00:27:24.660 Completely different people.

00:27:26.340 And this is what the left does all the time.

00:27:28.920 This is why they attack Christopher Columbus.

00:27:31.320 A little learning is a dangerous thing.

00:27:33.680 They've been told, they've been programmed by their re-educators, by the people who have indoctrinated them.

00:27:40.060 Columbus bad.

00:27:41.560 Columbus genocide.

00:27:43.320 Columbus mean.

00:27:44.860 Columbus bad.

00:27:47.240 And so they just, they go beep, beep, boop, beep, boop.

00:27:50.220 Columbus bad.

00:27:51.520 Beep, beep, beep, boop. 0.98

00:27:52.980 Bop, bop, bop.

00:27:53.700 Burn down statue.

00:27:54.820 Boop, bop, beep. 0.98

00:27:55.580 Hate history.

00:27:56.640 Hate art.

00:27:58.180 Beep, boop. 0.99

00:27:58.740 Load Taliban program. 0.99

00:28:00.280 Beep, bop, beep, beep, boop. 0.73

00:28:01.560 And that's what they do.

00:28:02.500 And then they set statues on fire.

00:28:04.360 But they get it completely wrong.

00:28:06.700 They don't even say, obviously it would be indefensible even to set a statue of Robert E.

00:28:11.820 Lee on fire.

00:28:12.860 That's also indefensible.

00:28:14.420 But it's both indefensible and hilariously stupid.

00:28:18.100 This is a statue of William C.

00:28:20.720 Lee on fire.

00:28:22.200 This is what happens when you don't know history, when you have no humility, and when you are frequently wrong but never in doubt.

00:28:29.460 This is what happens when you have no sense of veneration, when all you have is intellectual pride, the sense that anything that happened before me is bad and wrong.

00:28:39.700 Anybody who lived before me is stupid and wicked.

00:28:42.940 I alone, in my beautiful enlightened modernity, am the only person who has ever seen with clarity the moral landscape.

00:28:51.320 And everything else will be knocked down, covered up with tarp, or set on fire.

00:28:55.280 We'll be covering this tonight at Notre Dame.

00:28:57.080 I sure hope that we're allowed to stream the speech.

00:29:00.640 I sure hope that there are no shenanigans that go on at Notre Dame.

00:29:04.640 So hopefully you'll be able to watch it at Daily Wire.

00:29:07.140 If you're around South Bend, I sure hope that you can make it out there.

00:29:10.200 I told you there has been some shenanigans.

00:29:13.480 Antifa has threatened to come and protest.

00:29:16.520 So it might be lively.

00:29:18.200 Gear up for anything tonight.

00:29:19.620 But I will be making a robust defense of art, history, liberal education, and, in particular, one of the greatest men in history, Christopher Columbus.

00:29:28.140 We've got to get to the mailbag.

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00:29:52.280 I actually do fear for my safety tonight.

00:29:55.460 I do think that I'm in a bit of danger because I've been on the road.

00:29:59.500 You know, TSA screening, and you've got to minimize everything you travel with.

00:30:03.460 So I'm on the road, and I'm just here with this.

00:30:06.900 I just have this little plastic coffee cup that I'm drinking my coffee out of.

00:30:13.220 I left my Leftist Tears Tumblr in Los Angeles.

00:30:17.000 And looking at the RSVPs from Antifa tonight, from the university's reaction, the administrators,

00:30:25.660 all the people who don't know anything about Columbus but hate Columbus, I might drown.

00:30:31.600 I'm not afraid of Antifa clocking me.

00:30:34.280 I'm not afraid of the university censoring me.

00:30:37.080 I'm afraid of drowning.

00:30:38.820 Don't let this happen to you.

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00:30:43.020 We'll be right back with the mailbag.

00:30:44.160 From Judy.

00:30:56.400 Hey, Michael.

00:30:57.060 Is this a good opportunity, Jussie Smollett's false attack, for our sports players to let

00:31:02.720 go of the disrespect for the American flag and the people who have sacrificed to give

00:31:07.580 us freedom?

00:31:08.060 And it seems like much, not all, of recent acts of racism and homophobia are false, but

00:31:13.840 widely believed due to the dissemination on the part of the media.

00:31:18.380 An astute and excellent observation.

00:31:20.920 And yes, this is what we would call a teachable moment because so much of the hatred, the wild

00:31:30.740 anti-Westernism, anti-Americanism that we see all around us is based not even on people's

00:31:40.100 skewed moral landscapes, though that's part of it, but on just flat-out historical falsehoods.

00:31:46.220 If the mainstream left-wing narrative about America were true, then America would be a

00:31:52.940 pretty terrible place, wouldn't it?

00:31:54.760 If America were a country that were founded simply to benefit one minority group of people

00:32:04.480 defined by their physical characteristics, not at all based on ideas, not at all based

00:32:09.700 on a transcendent moral order, not at all based on liberty or self-government or veneration or

00:32:16.400 our tradition that has allowed so many freedoms, so much equality, such justice, if it were just

00:32:23.480 based on an illusion, on deception, on slavery and misery, yeah, this would be a terrible place,

00:32:32.860 wouldn't it?

00:32:33.220 So if America were responsible for all of the misery around the world, instead of, as 0.82

00:32:39.560 it really is, responsible for greater alleviation of that misery than any other political force

00:32:45.340 in history, if it were really that bad, then it would be a terrible place.

00:32:50.440 And I think a lot of the idiots, I don't like to call people names, but let's just call them

00:32:56.340 ignoramuses, in the National Football League who are kneeling for the flag are doing so because

00:33:03.060 they don't know anything.

00:33:04.420 And it's not just that they don't know anything, it's that they know so many things that aren't

00:33:07.640 so.

00:33:08.160 That's what Mark Twain said, it's not what you know that gets you in trouble, or not

00:33:11.380 what you don't know that gets you in trouble, it's what you know for sure that isn't so.

00:33:16.180 And the left, the NFL players, the Antifa protesters, the administration of these universities

00:33:25.540 are, they just know for certain so many things that aren't so.

00:33:31.140 And I think if we could show them this Jussie Smollett incident, and say, look, here, you

00:33:38.460 knew for sure, you believed, as this guy said with pure certainty, that he was attacked by

00:33:44.860 these racist bigots, and half the country hates black people, and it's a bigoted place, and

00:33:51.420 it's a dangerous place.

00:33:52.660 That wasn't true, and that is not true.

00:33:58.120 It's a lie.

00:33:59.400 It's a lie being told by cynical people trying to divide and destroy the country, and they're

00:34:05.840 trying to deceive you.

00:34:07.620 If we can take this moment and just shake some people and say, look, it isn't true, I know

00:34:13.300 you still believe the narrative, but the narrative is being exposed as false, that would go a long

00:34:18.120 way, and I think it would correct a lot of this behavior.

00:34:20.760 If people find out that the narrative is false, the disrespect will likely fall away.

00:34:25.640 From Daryl.

00:34:27.120 Dear Sir Maddow, do you believe God can forgive suicide?

00:34:31.240 Thanks.

00:34:31.680 Love the show.

00:34:32.200 A fan in Ireland.

00:34:33.140 Of course, God can forgive whatever God wants to forgive.

00:34:37.340 Suicide is a grave and terrible evil.

00:34:41.600 It is an unqualified evil, it is horrific, and it deserves eternal punishment in hell.

00:34:49.520 Dante, when he describes people who have committed suicide, he puts them in hell, having cast off

00:34:58.260 their bodies, and at the resurrection of the body, they will not get their bodies back because

00:35:04.720 they cast it away.

00:35:06.240 There's actually a great poem.

00:35:07.520 I'm going to look this up right now.

00:35:08.820 This is a wonderful poem by a formalist poet named A.M.

00:35:16.040 Jooster, and A.M.

00:35:17.900 Jooster wrote this poem about suicide that I just read the other day.

00:35:22.280 It's a short poem, and it tells you everything you should know.

00:35:25.600 The poem goes like this.

00:35:27.420 No, no, not this time.

00:35:29.980 I cannot celebrate a man's discarded life and will not try. 1.00

00:35:33.980 These knee-jerk elegies perpetuate the nightshade lies of class.

00:35:38.080 Why glorify dissenting to a solipsistic hell?

00:35:42.040 Stop.

00:35:42.880 Softly curse the waste.

00:35:44.640 Don't elevate his suffering to genius.

00:35:47.260 Never tell me he will live on.

00:35:49.220 Never call it fate.

00:35:50.800 Attend the service.

00:35:52.260 Mourn.

00:35:52.940 Pray.

00:35:53.720 Comfort those he lacerated.

00:35:55.800 Keep him in your heart, but use that grief to teach.

00:35:58.940 When you compose a line, it is a message, not just art.

00:36:02.360 Be furious with me, but I refuse to praise him.

00:36:05.500 No, we have too much to lose.

00:36:08.300 We have too much to lose by embracing a culture of death, by saying suicide is okay.

00:36:14.740 Oh, it's okay to end the suffering.

00:36:17.280 Oh, he was really just a tortured genius.

00:36:19.960 Genie, you're free, as the Academy tweeted out on the suicide of Robin Williams.

00:36:24.640 That is horrific.

00:36:26.580 Suicide is an unqualified evil.

00:36:27.940 That said, people who commit suicide are often not in a stable state of mind.

00:36:34.780 They're not thinking clearly.

00:36:36.040 They are not being rational.

00:36:37.560 And so it is perfectly legitimate to pray for the salvation of people who have committed suicide.

00:36:42.440 I do it all the time, friends who have killed themselves.

00:36:46.760 I regularly pray for them, and we can have hope of their salvation because their being out of their right mind mitigates some of the moral gravity and some of the culpability for committing that grave sin.

00:37:02.980 The sin remains horrifically and unqualifiedly evil, but we can hope for the salvation of those souls, and we should be very clear and very cautious and very careful as we make that distinction.

00:37:18.200 From Brendan, Mr. Covfefe, what is your view on marijuana legalization?

00:37:23.460 Brendan, I don't care at all.

00:37:26.680 I do not care whatsoever.

00:37:28.440 I basically oppose marijuana legalization, even though I don't care if people smoke pot.

00:37:34.300 I've smoked pot on a number of occasions in my life.

00:37:36.880 I don't really like it.

00:37:37.860 I've always preferred tobacco and alcohol more.

00:37:40.560 But if that's your thing, it's really no skin off my nose.

00:37:45.260 However, I really want to frustrate the political ambitions of people who are obsessed with legalizing drugs.

00:37:51.600 First of all, why would we?

00:37:53.100 What good will be accomplished by legalizing pot?

00:37:55.880 Very few people go to prison for simple possession.

00:37:58.820 The people who go to prison for simple possession of pot are people who have pled down because they're drug dealers and peddlers of poison during the worst drug epidemic in our nation's history, certainly in modern history.

00:38:09.680 So I have no care about that sort of thing.

00:38:13.800 Well, a lot of people smoke pot.

00:38:15.860 Okay, that's fine.

00:38:16.560 A lot of people do a lot of illegal things.

00:38:18.280 A lot of people speed.

00:38:19.140 Does that mean we shouldn't have a speed limit?

00:38:21.080 I don't think so.

00:38:22.420 Well, but, you know, weed is really not any worse than alcohol.

00:38:28.540 It's actually better for you than alcohol.

00:38:30.040 Yeah, okay, fine.

00:38:31.240 Alcohol is not good for you either when you abuse it.

00:38:33.980 But alcohol has been with our civilization forever.

00:38:38.100 Christ's first miracle is turning water into very, very good wine for people who have been drunk already for several days.

00:38:45.360 This has been around our civilization forever.

00:38:48.120 Why would we introduce something new?

00:38:50.420 It just doesn't make sense.

00:38:52.360 It seems like a further sign of an increasingly decadent culture, and there's no reason to encourage that sort of thing.

00:38:59.540 And also, I'm not a libertarian.

00:39:01.120 Come on.

00:39:01.520 Grow up, guys.

00:39:02.340 Come on.

00:39:02.840 Come on.

00:39:03.540 All right?

00:39:04.080 We don't.

00:39:05.140 Hey, I'm a cool conservative.

00:39:06.980 I like pot.

00:39:08.560 They're not going to like you.

00:39:09.840 Okay?

00:39:10.020 Stop trying to be hip.

00:39:11.760 You're not hip.

00:39:12.800 There's nothing hip about being conservative.

00:39:14.740 From Jesse.

00:39:19.300 Dear Michael, what is your opinion on media that is sacrilegious?

00:39:22.920 For example, I've tried to stay away from video games that involve using things like angels as enemies or Jesus pretty much in any way.

00:39:29.700 I just tend to err on the side of caution and cut certain things out.

00:39:33.000 But again, curious your thoughts on the matter.

00:39:34.880 Thank you for your time.

00:39:35.560 Well, one of the great modern works, The Screwtape Letters, treats angels and God as the enemy.

00:39:44.480 The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis is a demon writing to his nephew, talking about how to confound the enemy, who is God.

00:39:55.380 Surely you wouldn't disapprove of The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis.

00:39:58.920 Paradise Lost treats hell as heaven and heaven as hell.

00:40:01.660 And the main character of Paradise Lost is Satan.

00:40:07.640 Surely you wouldn't call John Milton unacceptable media.

00:40:12.840 No.

00:40:13.940 What matters is context.

00:40:17.060 If a work of art is presenting sacrilege or presenting blasphemy, Dante presents blasphemy and sacrilege.

00:40:26.320 If it's presenting it in a broader picture of a larger moral universe or to make a point that is anti-blasphemous, then that's a wonderful thing.

00:40:38.540 But if it's just some video game where you're gratuitously slaughtering angels, that's probably a bad thing.

00:40:43.160 And I would stay away from that as well.

00:40:44.900 As always, what matters is the context.

00:40:47.100 What matters is the point of the art.

00:40:49.740 What matters is the larger artistic realm that is being portrayed.

00:40:54.760 And so I wouldn't be surprised at all if some video games are gratuitous and wrong and you should stay away from them.

00:41:00.400 But don't stay away from Lewis and John Milton.

00:41:02.660 From Patrick.

00:41:04.000 Knowles.

00:41:04.400 Can a person believe in God and evolution without contradicting themselves?

00:41:10.080 Thanks.

00:41:11.020 Yes, absolutely.

00:41:11.960 Of course.

00:41:12.400 It was a Catholic priest who discovered the Big Bang. 0.50

00:41:14.700 I mean, it depends also what you mean by evolution.

00:41:20.580 There are now so many competing and contradicting theories on how evolution takes place.

00:41:28.040 We don't really have a good explanation of how a species turns into another species.

00:41:32.760 There's not a ton of evidence for that.

00:41:34.840 But we certainly know that genetic mutations take place.

00:41:38.260 And so keeping an open mind to the various ways in which God has created the creation, I mean, that just seems to make sense to me.

00:41:50.240 And cynically citing parts of scripture out of context as a way to disprove some discovery of natural science also seems ridiculous to me.

00:42:00.660 As Cardinal Baronius said, the scripture tells us how to go to heaven, not how the heavens go.

00:42:05.680 From Michael.

00:42:07.900 Michael, I need your advice.

00:42:09.320 I'm here to give up.

00:42:10.400 I'm a 28-year-old former bartender and will graduate this year with a degree in poli-sci and philosophy.

00:42:15.140 I also live in a congressional district where the current rep has been in office for 22 years.

00:42:19.320 My advice is about what I should do after school.

00:42:21.960 I'm leaning toward law school, but I obviously meet the requirements to run for Congress.

00:42:25.660 What should I do?

00:42:26.300 Thanks.

00:42:27.040 Michael.

00:42:27.680 Well, I guess you could move to Queens and then you would become instantly the congressional representative.

00:42:33.940 28-year-old bartender.

00:42:35.100 That's all you need these days.

00:42:36.760 You could be the darling of the Democrat Party, but I don't think you could be the darling of the Republican Party.

00:42:42.040 I'm very skeptical of people who want to run for office the second that they possibly can without any life experience first.

00:42:50.540 I think that's a bad idea.

00:42:51.860 I think it will make you have a bad life.

00:42:53.800 I once was driving around with a governor.

00:42:57.660 I won't say which governor.

00:42:59.000 I won't put him on the spot.

00:43:00.260 But I was driving around with a governor on the campaign trail.

00:43:03.640 I was pretty young at the time.

00:43:05.220 And he said, so, you interested in politics?

00:43:07.700 And I said, well, I'm driving around with you on the campaign trail.

00:43:09.760 What do you think?

00:43:10.620 And he said, well, here's my advice.

00:43:11.860 Don't run for Congress.

00:43:14.140 Don't do it.

00:43:14.760 I said, well, I'm a young, politically interested guy.

00:43:17.460 That's what everybody wants to do.

00:43:18.680 He said, do not do it.

00:43:21.280 When you do it as a young man, you lose your friends.

00:43:24.580 You're constantly just raising money.

00:43:26.460 You don't stand for anything.

00:43:27.800 You don't have any experience.

00:43:29.020 You don't have any perspective.

00:43:30.420 And you leave with nothing but a bad record because every bill is designed to make it look like you voted for some terrible thing.

00:43:38.460 That's just the nature of Congress.

00:43:40.160 What is the point?

00:43:41.000 Why do you want to run for Congress?

00:43:42.140 What do you want to do?

00:43:42.740 What do you think you can accomplish in Congress?

00:43:45.180 If it's just that you want to start your political career young, do something else first.

00:43:49.840 I'm not saying don't run.

00:43:50.580 I think it's a perfectly wonderful thing to run for office for the right reasons.

00:43:53.980 But do something else first.

00:43:55.740 Law school is a good idea.

00:43:56.800 Law is a wonderful profession.

00:43:59.840 But don't just run to try to win a popularity contest or something.

00:44:05.820 If you really think that you can accomplish something in Congress as a 28-year-old with little experience from your district, okay, I'd be willing to hear that argument.

00:44:15.260 But you'd have to make a pretty convincing case that you can actually accomplish something.

00:44:18.900 From Nalani, hi, Michael.

00:44:22.780 A leftist tried to argue that America is inherently racist and pointed to the founding fathers.

00:44:27.020 They claimed they were racist because they own slaves.

00:44:29.460 Any help responding?

00:44:30.560 Lani.

00:44:31.500 Yeah.

00:44:32.080 Tell them that we kill a million babies a year right now. 0.98

00:44:34.380 And the entire culture basically seems fine with it.

00:44:38.920 Obviously, there's a major pro-life movement.

00:44:41.980 But there were abolitionists among the founding fathers.

00:44:46.140 There were many of the founding fathers, even those who weren't outright abolitionists, strongly disapproved of slavery.

00:44:53.480 In fact, they had to reach many compromises in writing the Constitution or the country never would have been built.

00:44:59.380 How will history look on us?

00:45:01.140 A culture that slaughters a million babies a year, where elected governors of states call for babies to be killed as they're being born or after they've been born.

00:45:13.500 Outright post-birth infanticide.

00:45:16.740 Something tells me that the founding fathers, who tolerated for a time the institution of slavery, will look far more morally advanced than we will.

00:45:27.880 All right, last question.

00:45:29.020 From Rodolfo.

00:45:32.220 Hi, Michael.

00:45:32.940 Easy question, I hope.

00:45:33.880 A lot of my wife's family converted to some form of Christianity, where they're forbidden from drinking alcohol and dancing or listening to music other than religious music.

00:45:41.340 This seems really bizarre to me, because as far as I know, there's no explicit scripture about engaging in these activities.

00:45:47.000 Can you explain where this comes from and why it's incorrect?

00:45:49.340 Thanks.

00:45:49.760 Came for Ben, stayed for Knowles.

00:45:50.980 I don't know where it comes from, because it is incorrect.

00:45:53.100 Jesus, as we just said, Christ's first miracle was turning water into wine for drunk people.

00:45:58.820 Good wine for people who had already been drunk for several days, because at that time, the Jewish wedding ceremonies went on for more than just three hours. 0.97

00:46:06.600 They went on for days at a time.

00:46:07.780 I don't see anywhere in scripture where you're not allowed to dance, and I certainly don't see anywhere in scripture where it tells you to listen to modern religious music.

00:46:18.080 I'm pretty sure that's a sin, actually, because that music, that saccharine trash is so awful that I think God is grimacing every time you play one of those insipid, stupid hymns.

00:46:27.740 You know, on eagles' wings, or with the acoustic guitars, or getting a drum kit in church.

00:46:33.040 Good Lord, go do some penance for that.

00:46:35.840 Go to confession.

00:46:36.940 What it comes from is people looking at the profundity of the Christian tradition, the profundity of scripture, looking down, as I've used this image before, looking down a deep, dark well.

00:46:51.740 But they've got blinders on.

00:46:53.540 They won't use any broader interpretive scheme.

00:46:56.820 They won't take in the grand thoughts of all of the great church fathers, the great doctors of the church, the great Christian leaders, spiritual leaders, thinkers in all of history.

00:47:06.220 They just have their own narrow ideology.

00:47:08.880 And so what happens is they look down that well, and they see nothing but their own reflection on the surface of the water.

00:47:14.060 And so it's very easy for people who have a prejudice against or a bias against dancing or booze or whatever, or good music.

00:47:25.760 And they have a bias against that.

00:47:28.880 So they say, oh, that's in scripture.

00:47:30.460 It's not in scripture.

00:47:31.740 It's not in the Christian tradition.

00:47:33.380 It's coming out of your own head.

00:47:34.600 That's fine.

00:47:35.100 If you want to prevent your friends and family from doing those fun things, I guess it's your prerogative.

00:47:40.360 But don't try to put those words in God's mouth.

00:47:42.400 They aren't there.

00:47:43.360 Okay, that's our show.

00:47:44.480 I hope that you're able to tune in tonight at Notre Dame.

00:47:47.940 We'll have to see what happens.

00:47:49.420 In the meantime, I'm sure it'll be very wild in any case, and I'll be able to update you tomorrow.

00:47:54.160 Till then, I'm Michael Knowles.

00:47:55.180 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:47:56.040 I'll see you tomorrow.

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00:48:24.840 Hey guys, over on the Matt Wall Show today, we're going to talk about this case of the ISIS bride. 0.90

00:48:30.040 The woman who ran off, left America, joined ISIS.

00:48:33.220 Now she wants to come home.

00:48:34.240 She's learned her lesson, and she wants to come back.

00:48:37.580 Donald Trump says, nope, can't come home.

00:48:40.020 Is that the right choice?

00:48:41.200 We'll talk about that.

00:48:42.120 Well, it is, by the way, but we'll talk about it.

00:48:43.880 Also, Jussie Smollett is under arrest, so we'll look at the details, the updates on that story.

00:48:50.760 And finally, I'm going to explain why Bernie Sanders is a power-hungry, hypocritical, cowardly, morally deranged communist fraud.

00:49:00.600 We'll do all that today over on the Matt Wall Show.

00:49:03.560 We'll do all that today over on the Matt Wall Show.

The Michael Knowles Show - February 21, 2019

Ep. 302 - Jihadi Dreamers In Search Of A Better Life

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