Ep. 31 - Why Can't The Left Take A Joke？ ft. Zo Rachel
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Summary
Zoe Rachel joins Michael Knowles to discuss why the left has lost its sense of humor, and why they hate Trump. Plus, a special guest appearance from the "Deplorable Deplorables" panel of Jacob Airy and Ariel Davidson.
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Today, we are joined by the former host of Zonation on PJTV, the current host of The Zoloft,
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the current drummer for 20-pound sledge and author of Pulitzer Prize-winning political treatise
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Weapon of Ass Destruction, the one and only Zoe Rachel. We will analyze why the left can't take
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a joke. Then, Ariel Davidson and Jacob Airy join the panel of deplorables. We'll discuss the
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convenient changes to hysterical global warming predictions, the Google Memo guy's admiration
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for KKK titles, and Jimmy Kimmel's latest humorless political rant, his latest one, not the one from
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yesterday, the new one. And finally, all of your questions will be answered in the mailbag. I'm
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Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show. Before we get into it with Zoe, we have to
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just set all of this up. Yesterday, we played Kimmel, and Kimmel was whining about some political
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nonsense. So he's back at it again today. This is his latest threat to pound the Fox and Friends
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He follows me on Twitter. He asked me to write a blurb for his book, which I did. He calls my agent
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looking for projects. He's dying to be a member of the Hollywood elite. The only reason he's not a
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member of the Hollywood elite is because nobody will hire him to be one. And, you know, the reason
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I'm talking about this is because my son had an open-heart surgery and has to have two more, and because
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of that, I learned that there are kids with no insurance in the same situation. I don't get anything out of
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this. Brian, you phony little creep. Oh, I'll pound you when I see you. That is my blurb.
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What did I watch? What am I watching? I thought this was supposed to be a comedy show. It is funny,
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I guess. It's funny to laugh at him rather than with Jimmy Kimmel. We are so lucky to have Zoe
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Rachel here today. Zoe, first question. Why has the left lost its sense of humor?
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You know, there was a time when they were funny, huh? I mean, there was... Sort of, maybe, right?
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Well, no. I mean, there was a time when we had TV shows. You know, it sucks when you find out that
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these people that you thought were so funny. You know, when we were kids, you know, we sneak
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downstairs, you know, in the basement or something, and we watch their shows. These guys are hilarious,
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and then you get older and you find out what their views are, and it's such a disappointment. It's a real
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letdown. Yeah, it's like, why is the host of the man show with the juggies who just, like,
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shotguns beers on camera? Why is he lecturing me about health care policy? And that's another
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thing. They're supposed to be like, oh, well, I guess that's their idea of being pro-women while
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they have these chauvinistic shows. But yeah, they have lost their sense of humor, you know,
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whatever that was, and why that is, you know, I think possibly it's because they want to be seen
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as something deeper than comedians, all the while hiding behind being a comedian. Because when they get
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called out for trying to make their, you know, their deep political statement, and it backlashes
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on, it's like, well, I'm just a comedian. You guys should have a sense of humor. It's the Jon Stewart
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thing, right? I'm an entertainer. Clown knows on, clown knows off. You want to have your cake and
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eat it too. That's it. That's it. But you know what's weird? Because at first I thought the reason
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they're losing their minds and they're not making jokes anymore is because they hate Trump. Trump's been
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the big change. But they were kind of funny under Bush. There was Jon Stewart. There was Colbert.
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They were both pretty funny. So what, what is it about Trump? It's not just any Republican,
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right? Well, I guess Trump is funny without even trying because it's with Trump, you know,
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he, he doesn't, it's not like he really says much. It's not like he says anything really deep,
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you know, not, not trying to come down on Trump, but it's not saying that he's not able to. It's
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just, he just does it, you know, and it, and it causes them to start biting or, you know,
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you know, chomping and stuff like that to try to get under his skin, but it's having,
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it's backfiring and it's causing them to get under their own skin as their head goes up their own.
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Nevermind. Yeah. I'm, there's a lot going on anatomically. The, you're right though. Well,
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you make the point about Trump's just not taking it, but he's also, he is funny himself. Yeah. So
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he'll set, you know, in that debate, you remember that debate with Megyn Kelly and she says, you've
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said this about women and you've said this and this and this about women. And he just leans in and he
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says, only Rosie O'Donnell. And that is this great punchline. And I don't know, maybe it's,
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they're not used to a guy and he's, he's one of them, right? He is a Hollywood elite. He's been a
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celebrity forever. Right. He was sort of a Democrat. And so he's funny and they can't take it. They
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don't know how to react when someone can throw it back just as well as they can throw it. But it's
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amazing too. I mean, you've been, you've been around Hollywood a very long time. The way that
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Kimmel talks about, he says, Brian Kilmeade wants to be in the Hollywood elite. He wants to be,
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but he's a loser because he's not in the Hollywood elite. Well, the, the, the funny thing you said
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was that they won't hire him. It was like, I didn't know that you got hired to be, it's like,
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is that like on an application or a job description? I'm here for the job to be a Hollywood elite. I
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didn't know that's how it worked on monster.com. I said, like, yeah, the ideal job would be a
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Hollywood elite. Uh, my qualifications, uh, I'm divorced multiple times and I do a lot of drugs.
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Will that get me in? I don't know. That, that, that would look good on a resume for Hollywood
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elite. And it's, you know, I just, you know, they won't admit that, Hey, maybe he's just not
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willing to do the brown nosing that they did to get to where they are, you know, and, uh, just,
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you know, really kissing the behinds of the right people to get to where they are.
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And it is. So you've been in Hollywood a long time and you basically are, you were at the forefront
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of conservative new media, right? You're, you get to, you're, you're doing videos on like
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MySpace. You're completely cutting edge in conservative commentary. And then Breitbart
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discovered you, Andrew Breitbart, some of the other people, Bill Whittle, all those guys
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discover you. I guess so, man. You know, cause, uh, MySpace, well, that's going back. Uh, that's
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in the time machine right there. Uh, you were doing, you were doing videos on like telegraphs,
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you know, you were doing, yeah, no, but you were right at the beginning of this conservative
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internet culture. That's where you are. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I was doing MySpace. That was
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like 2007 and, uh, you know, started to take off a bit. And then some, I didn't even know
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about YouTube. That's how under a rock I was. And, um, somebody said, you should put this
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stuff up on YouTube. And when I did, they started going viral and, uh, you know, I got
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contacted by some people. Long story short, I ended up on PJ TV, you know, so I was, I
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was, uh, I guess one of those, uh, lonely people in front of my brick wall, you know, doing
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this, uh, you know, uh, rant from a conservative angle. And, um, it was well received at the
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time. And it, those guys, Andrew Breitbart, you know, was kind of at the forefront of
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all of that, but PJ TV, Roger Simon, Bill Whittle, all, all those guys were doing something
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completely new. The conservatives had been shut out of the media, shut out of the mainstream
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comedy, politics, entertainment culture. And then this internet exuberance happens and you
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break through. How is it different today than it was in 2007?
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Well, it's different today because I guess, uh, you know, the, the, as, as I call them
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the liberal internet overlords, you know, who, who basically facilitated these platforms,
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you know, for us to do the, you're talking about YouTube, like YouTube. Yeah, man, you
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know, it, uh, when they realized that our voice was that, you know, potent, um, what change
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was is that they started putting limits on it. And I, you know, I'm not trying to toot my
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own horn here, but I kind of been saying for a while, it's like, I don't think we should
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be dependent on their platforms that much as much, you know, or as much as we
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are. I think we need to create something competitive where we can have our own. So
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in case, you know, they decide to, you know, drop the curtain on us, you know, we
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have, uh, you know, some recourse and, uh, right now, you know, we're feeling the
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Yeah. And you know, I, we have all the time on, uh, Ali Stuckey, Roman Millennial, Fleckus
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Talks, all these big right wing YouTubers, Crowder, Nakei Jared, and their, their revenues
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are being cut by 60, 70%. Our revenues have been cut dramatically. The, so they're clearly
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going after that. The, the funny thing I was struck with, I was looking at some of your
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early videos today. This is a video from 2010 from Zonation. Man, this is weird. Illegal
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immigrants and their so-called sympathizers believe they're being mistreated by our American
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government. But wait, isn't it the government of the country you left the one that mistreats
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you? Yeah, I believe it is. Why don't you protest that government? The government of your country
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of origin treats its citizens like crap and you take it out on us. And a lot of what that
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is, is catharsis. Your life sucks. And trust me, you don't have to be poor for your life
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to suck. But your life sucks. And this is an event for you to vent your frustration and
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look for any excuse to whine about how much your butt hurts and drag as many people as
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You got these angry protesters running around with their hoodies on and look like a
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bunch of little unabombers acting a straight fool because they reckon if they throw enough
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That video was made seven years ago. That could have been made seven hours ago. That is describing
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exactly what is the main story in the news right now. Does anything change? Does anything
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No. No, it doesn't. And that's the thing, man. This has been going on since God knows
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when and it just, it gets recycled and we know how, you know, liberals love recycling and
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that's exactly what's happening. It's just recycled over and over again.
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This is the first time that I think I'd be willing to recycle is to pull back some of these
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videos that so, so where's it going to head? Where's it? I mean, right now you're, you're
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drummer for 20 pounds sledge. You, you're still putting out videos, even though YouTube's
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trying to just squeeze them and crush them as much as they can. Where does it head? The conservative
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movement, the conservative and the entertainment movement, you know, these satirical videos
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that come out, what's the future look like for it? Or are we going to be just totally
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squeezed out and have to come up with our own platform?
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Well, I think, uh, it's definitely going to have, there, it's going to take another platform.
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It's going to take being independent, you know, with our work. Um, and it's going to take
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that support, man. It's, it's, um, you know, the idea of, uh, I'm, I'm looking at what the
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liberals have done. You know, this is what they do and this is what they still do to promote their
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ideology. They're in everything and they're in everything. And conservatives really have to learn
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how to compete in that arena. Uh, support is, you know, we're, we're so big on defense,
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you know, we want, you know, we're pro defense. Well, you're going to need a defense mechanism
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in the cultural arena too. Not just in the military war, right? Exactly. If you want to
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sustain political conservative representation, well, you're going to have to have cultural
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representation to be underneath that to, you know, for them to consent, you know, if we're,
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you know, governed by our consent, we're going to have to have a culture that consents to that,
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but we don't have that. And what is your Christian, you obviously play Christian music. You,
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Christianity is in a lot of your videos. What is conservatism to you?
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Conservatism to me is, is, um, you have to understand that you can't have your freedom
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at the forced expense of somebody else. When you recognize what the constitution is and what,
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and what laws it recognizes, but not what laws it creates that, that, uh, uh, facilitates the
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rights of man, but the laws that it recognizes given by our creator. When you recognize that and
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say that, okay, there is a balance of freedom here. You're free to do this. Now I know that a lot of
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libertarians, like really appreciate this. Yeah, that's right. But no, it's conservatism
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because you have this set of freedom that goes against this set of freedom and it has to balance.
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So, so, so say for instance, like, uh, uh, libertarians going to get mad at me, but I have
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to, I have to give this example. Like, uh, they'll say, uh, you know, what a woman does with her body
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should be her business. Yeah. Right. This is, you know, and the government shouldn't have any say,
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but here's the thing that woman's right to do that is affecting someone else's right.
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What I thought the baby was just like a little scab or something. It was like a little piece
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of tissue that is attached to the woman. Yeah. But you know, even a lot of libertarians will say
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that, look, I personally, I'm not pro abortion, but what a person does. But the thing is, you can't
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say that without, the only reason why you would say that is recognizing the personhood of the kids.
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Whenever I hear that, this is what I hear. I hear, well, I would never kill my beautiful little
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precious child, but I would love all of those poor people to get rid of theirs. So I don't need to pay
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for their welfare. That's what I hear every time they say that argument, because you have to ask,
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well, why wouldn't you do it? Why wouldn't you get that abortion? Exactly. And then when you,
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once you go down that road, if you feel like you're entitled to kill the kid, you're going to feel
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entitled for somebody else to pay for it. So it's a self-eating snake and it doesn't really follow
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to the conclusion. That's why I say you have a conservative interpretation of the constitution
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that recognizes this balance of rights. And that creator too. Exactly. You know, and it's,
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this isn't a man-made ordinance. You have to have the acknowledgement that we're endowed with
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this, or this is an inherent right that's put there by our creator. So I totally buy it. Let's
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get some other views on what conservatism is. We have Ariel Davidson coming to us from Skype,
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from the Hoover Institution and the Daily Wire's very own Jacob Aries joining on the couch.
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You are so lucky, Jacob. You get to sit next to royalty like this in studio. Ariel's coming to us
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from the Hoover Institution. What do you think? Does Zoe make the right point? I want these two
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questions. One, why is the left so unfunny? And what is conservatism to you?
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Well, why is the left so unfunny? Well, I think they've, I think it really comes down to the fact
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that victimhood is now the most celebrated virtue on the left end of the spectrum. So they've prioritized
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not offending anyone as the ultimate good. Um, but in the same token, being a person who is offended
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is also seen as an ultimate good. And so comedy is inherently, I think, politically incorrect. Um,
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and so there is going to, they're definitely going to butt heads in terms of what comedy's objectives
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are and what the left's ultimate objectives are. Um, you know, if we look back at comedians like John
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Cleese, Jerry Seinfeld, Chris Rock, all of these gentlemen won't perform on college campuses anymore.
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Um, they, they explicitly won't because they think that college campuses have become too conservative
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and not too conservative in the sense that everyone's voting Republican. They're too
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conservative in the sense of what's allowable and what's not allowable. Um, conservatism to me in
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general, I, you know, I think that we go back to, you know, the founding fathers and their principles.
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We go back to, um, Aristotelian views and John Locke. I look at conservatism from the mindset of you
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are, your rights do not come from the government. They come from God. Um, and they are inherent to
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you and they're not something gifted by daddy government. And this is something that, you know,
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when we talk about freedom of speech, freedom of religion, um, the right to bear arms, these are
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not gifts that the government bequeaths upon us. These are things that we inherently have as human
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beings. Uh, the right to life being a huge one that we just talked about. So conservatism to me is
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really, you know, government is a social compact agreement that we enter into as individuals. Uh,
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we, we give up a little bit of power over ourselves, but in general, you know, I think
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restoring the power of the individual is what should be the objective of the conservative movement
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moving forward. Absolutely. And I think that's why those two questions are pretty related. What is
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conservatism and why has the left lost its sense of humor? I think there is in comedy, there's an
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ultimately, uh, conservative base to it. Even though a lot of comedians are left-wing,
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they'll vote for Democrats, though some of the greatest do not. The greatest comedian of the
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20th century, Bob Hope was a Republican. The greatest living comedian right now is Nora McDonald
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avoids political classification, but the guy's at least not a liberal Democrat. So Ron White,
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I love Ron White. He's great. Yeah. I mean, there are wonderful. Yeah. And I, the reason I think
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is that the conservative view of the world is non-ideological. It kind of accepts the world
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for what it is. It accepts the tragic, tragic fact of life. It affects, it accepts our fallen
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nature as people. And then it makes jokes about that. It, it subverts your expectation to have a
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comedic, uh, ending, but with people who are utopian or with people who are constantly idealistic or
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deeply ideological, there's no, you can't make a joke about that. They delve so far into the absurd,
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so far away from what we know is our lived experience of the world that you can't laugh
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at it. There's no standard against which to laugh. Well, if you think there's also this belief that
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you're making a joke about something that you're inherently degrading it. And the left has sort of
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ascribed to this idea of universal values that everything is equal, just different. And so if you're
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inherently making fun of something or poking fun at it, you're degrading it. And thereby saying
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one culture of belief system practice is better than the other. And that's a big no-no
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in terms of leftist logic. So I think it kind of circles back to this idea of universal values,
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which is a very popular notion on the left and actually within sort of the neoconservative
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limit as well, I'd say too. But that's a standard liberals don't stick to though.
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You know, they, they, you know, as the saying goes, uh, if liberals didn't have, uh,
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uh, double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all. And as far as conservatives
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go, you know, I don't think we're as opportunistic or opportunistic as people try to make us out
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to be and looking to try to, because if we were, we would have a smorgasbord of parody
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and lampooning for, because they, that's what they give us all day long. They give us stuff
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to joke about all day long. And it's almost tragic that there isn't like something to just
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constantly, uh, uh, we should have just like an army, a legion of, of people, you know,
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making fun of these people and you're on the front lines because you're, you're doing a great
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job of it. It's what we need more. You see, you're too unique for your own good, man.
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You know, but we need more of this, you know, this, you know, usually I'll, I only bring on
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the all female panels of these beautiful women to come on every single day, but it's nice every
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once in a while to get some guys on to finally give me a compliment. I really appreciate it.
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We need to get to the very important news. This actually is great news today. According to courts,
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as of April, 2017, the IPCC, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's carbon budget for keeping
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temperature rise below 1.5 degrees centigrade was approximately 160 billion metric tons of carbon
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dioxide. Now, a new study published in Nature Geoscience seems to have changed the game.
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It suggests that the 1.5 degrees centigrade carbon budget may now be closer to 800 billion metric tons
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that would buy the world as much as 20 years at current emissions levels. All of that summed up
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means that the Paris Climate Accord was sold to us that we must sign it now. If we wait even one
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single minute, the entire world will explode. Now is the time. We're the ones we've been waiting
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for. Then Trump says no. He says, sorry, too bad. And now they say, well, okay, we have a little bit
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more time, but you really have to do it now. Now is the time. Forget what we said before. This is the
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real one. Jacob, that is pretty convenient. Everybody says that we have to sign onto that accord and now
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they seem to move the needle. Is that what they're doing? Is this just absolutely moving goalposts,
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completely cynical, or are they really just confused about the science?
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I honestly think they're just moving goalposts. Every time they set something up, it either
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doesn't happen or it's an anecdotal event. And so they move it back every so often. They do this
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every five years. I was reading somewhere that I believe it was in the Guardian. They said,
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we really need to talk about global warming because of this new science. I think Leonardo DiCaprio
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donated $20 million to fund some research. And it's like, what a waste of money. Give us a good
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movie you could use that $20 million for. But I guarantee you, 20 years down the road, when your
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show enters its 20th season, the three of us will have this conversation. You'll be asking,
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are they going to move the goalposts again? And I'll just repeat this over and over again.
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Well, I guess the rapture is going to happen on Monday, as the Christian numerologists predict.
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But if not for that, yeah, I don't think global warming would be the thing to take us down.
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Ariel, from this same article, from the same report, they say that the range of prediction
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on how much carbon dioxide will be the threshold is between negative 200 billion tons and positive
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1,000 billion tons. That is a pretty wide range. Isn't that the point? Aren't they undergirding
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their own point that perhaps the chaotic systems and complex systems like the climate
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are not predictable 100 or 200 or 500 years in the future?
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Absolutely. I think what it comes down to is that this study is pretty validating for climate
00:21:08.060
skeptics. And when I say climate skeptics, I'm not saying that people don't think the environment
00:21:13.620
goes through some sort of cyclical changes. I agree with that. That's a given. But I do think we
00:21:18.740
need to take a hard look at the science that's being used. And clearly, you know, if this study
00:21:23.380
is coming out and it's questioning the sort of level or pace of warming that the Earth is going
00:21:28.380
through, then maybe we should be sitting down and pausing, especially if we're making tremendous
00:21:32.400
decisions about our own economy and the global economy in general, based off of these scientific
00:21:37.660
Wait, but hold on. You're telling me that just because all the models are constantly getting
00:21:42.240
it wrong and they're constantly changing, we shouldn't destroy the entire global economy for them?
00:21:46.720
No, we probably need to sit down and think long and hard about it. And that's something
00:21:51.480
that's not really done because people sort of, you know, they say, if you at all are questioning
00:21:55.440
the science, if you at all are questioning the science, then you are an idiot, you're a bigot,
00:22:01.880
you're closed minded, you're willing to destroy the Earth. No, I just want to have a frank and
00:22:06.500
honest conversation about, you know, what kind of regulations are we putting in place? And are they
00:22:11.040
actually going to be effective at what we're trying to do? And furthermore, what is it that we're
00:22:15.100
trying to do? Right? I mean, what, what is the impact of mankind on the climate? Do we
00:22:19.820
really know? Is that something that is quantifiable?
00:22:22.100
But Ariel, you certainly would agree that if you don't get down on your knees and worship
00:22:25.860
the science, then you are a sinner damned to hell, right?
00:22:30.800
Okay. Well, it's that. All right. I'm glad we're going to have a reasonable discussion.
00:22:33.560
So I can atone for, you know, I can, I can ask for forgiveness.
00:22:36.240
You better get to that atoning, my dear. So how long before the left changes its model again?
00:22:41.840
Would you say like 15 minutes or a day or two? I think that's a good measure right there, man.
00:22:46.300
That's a good measure. And it all sounds like 800 billion metric tons of crap.
00:22:52.200
It's heavy, man. It's like, there's 800 metric billion metric tons of crap holding us together
00:22:57.720
right now. And, you know, and I like watching the science channel, you know, and I, I, I dig,
00:23:03.160
you know, you want to talk about people who contradict themselves, you know, Oh, the Bible
00:23:06.000
contradicts it. No, the science channel contradicts itself. Now their whole thing is that they want
00:23:10.220
to colonize Mars. Right. But they say that Mars has gone through global warming. And I'm
00:23:15.640
like, how is like, are we so evil that we caused global warming on Mars before we even started
00:23:21.760
colonizing it? We are worse than I thought. It's almost like that person's, Oh, I gained
00:23:27.540
10 pounds. Just thinking about pies. I do. Did we cause global warming? They're just thinking
00:23:32.220
about terraforming. Yeah. No, Mars gained 800 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide. Just us
00:23:38.080
thinking about it. Yeah, absolutely. Right. Well, I know you all want to hear the most
00:23:43.020
important news, which is Google memo writer, James Damore's comments about the KKK. You want
00:23:48.180
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now. Dailywire.com. We'll be right back. The engineer fired for anti-diversity Google memo.
00:25:04.680
His name is James Damore has now sparked outrage by branding KKK titles. Cool. He said, quote,
00:25:11.660
the KKK is horrible and I don't support them in any way, but, buts negate sentences, but can we admit
00:25:18.460
that their internal title names are cool? E.g. Grand Wizard. He also said, you know, you've moralized
00:25:25.020
an issue when you can't criticize its heroes or acknowledge any positive aspect of its villains.
00:25:31.100
And finally, he said, quote, if you make the actual KKK, the only place where you can acknowledge the
00:25:36.640
coolness of Dungeons and Dragons terms, then you'll just push people into the KKK. So
00:25:41.620
which is less cool, the KKK or Dungeons and Dragons? Oh man. Uh, can we throw in a third
00:25:48.040
category of KKK playing Dungeons and Dragons? Oh yeah. That would be, that would be a level of
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the Grand Wizard playing with the Grand Wizard. Absolutely. I actually don't know which I know
00:25:58.180
less about the KKK or Dungeons and Dragons, but I don't think either. I think, you know,
00:26:02.760
learning about Dungeons and Dragons, you'll learn all you need to know about the KKK and which,
00:26:06.420
which is important, you know, and if I may, you know, on a sobering note, let's make a distinction
00:26:10.100
about, you know, cause people want to say the KKK or some, you know, radical Christian
00:26:13.880
organization. It's like, look, you don't have an organization that has titles like Grand Wizard,
00:26:18.700
Exalted Cyclops, Quorum of Centaurs, uh, you know, that have these pagan names that you will not find
00:26:26.380
in the Bible. It's not a Christian organization. It's a, it's a fraternity that's built, that has
00:26:30.740
its hierarchy built more on paganism. That's like, like the alt-right or the Nazi party.
00:26:35.340
Right. It has nothing to do with us. And two, in terms of nicknames for the KKK, they already have
00:26:40.740
the best and most appropriate nickname for themselves, the Invisible Empire. The Democrats
00:26:46.720
are the Invisible Empire. They're the ones who created the KKK and you don't, and it's like,
00:26:50.860
it's amazing that people don't see what they do. You know, it's like, you don't see the man behind
00:26:55.760
the curtain. And just like the Democrats, you know, who have founded the KKK, if they don't
00:27:00.040
like what you're doing, they'll make you invisible. That's why conservatives are disappearing.
00:27:04.420
It is true. They share all of the same premises, the importance of identity politics, the need of
00:27:10.720
creating more racial, uh, disarmament in the country. And they were founded as the terrorist
00:27:15.440
wing of the democratic party. And also, uh, they're, they're, uh, how they despise the Jews.
00:27:19.640
Same thing. Democrats today, they despise Jews. Well, everybody hates the Jews. So I think you would
00:27:23.840
admit throughout all of history from the beginning of time to the present, it's make me mad. Sometimes
00:27:29.100
secular Jews, I do. I actually think it's because they're God's people. Everybody hates them. That's
00:27:35.000
like the Bible tells us that's going to happen. Jacob is James Damore serious or is his comment
00:27:42.000
esoteric and perhaps ironic, merely trying to provoke a reaction from the left. I think he's just trying
00:27:47.540
to get his 15 minutes of fame back. Honestly, I went to 16 or 17. Yeah. Fair enough. I honestly
00:27:53.460
think whenever he first came on conservatives radars, I was like, guys, this guy's a leftist. I
00:27:58.500
mean, I guess a liberal, maybe not a full-on leftist, but if you read the whole memo, like he really
00:28:03.460
goes after religious people. And so I honestly think this is just another him just trying to do
00:28:10.020
something just to stir up. So he'll be in the news again. I, I think like you said, it's just esoteric,
00:28:16.540
Mm-hmm. Ariel, is it, is Jacob right? Is it just these 15 minutes of fame or is he,
00:28:23.580
is he trying to make a point? Does he have any point that we should be able to say that
00:28:28.040
some aspect of a terrorist organization is interesting or admirable or something like
00:28:33.900
that? Or is he just an attention whore? I mean, I really think this goes back to what we've talked
00:28:39.160
about on a few prior shows and what we talked about before, basically looking at if you're saying,
00:28:43.360
if you say anything radical or, you know, crazy or stupid, you'll get enough attention. And all
00:28:50.240
publicity seems to be good publicity now, because then you'll trend on Twitter and you'll have people
00:28:54.480
talking about you and blogging about you and putting out puff pieces about you. And you know
00:28:59.220
what, honestly, I thought it was a really stupid comment. Um, and I think that I agree with Jacob
00:29:04.400
a hundred percent that it was really just a cry for attention. Um, but I think given sort of the
00:29:09.640
controversy around the Google memo, that aside, it was just a very, it was very poorly sort of
00:29:15.600
associated with what he had done in the past. Right. So he's already got the microscope on him.
00:29:20.660
And this was just, I think a very, very stupid move personally. If I were like, if I were in charge
00:29:25.760
of his PR, I would just be like, I don't know what you're doing. Especially for those of us who
00:29:29.700
defended his completely innocuous memo. Now the guy goes out and he to probably just to get
00:29:36.440
attention is making comments that could be interpreted as, as, uh, agilatory at the KKK.
00:29:42.040
Yeah. It damages his credibility. Right. And so now people are going to go look at that memo and
00:29:46.220
say, wait a minute, he, he might be a bigot. You know, he might have these views that are,
00:29:50.520
you know, not combat compatible as a free society. So, you know, I think he undoes a lot of the,
00:29:56.800
and unfortunately he undoes some of the credit he gained from the past of, of, of writing that very
00:30:01.740
well thought out memo. So meanwhile, you have actual bigots and, and people like Democrat
00:30:09.140
Valerie Plame, who just today tweeted out an anti-Jewish tweet, a clearly anti-Semitic tweet
00:30:14.380
on Rosh Hashanah. On, on Rosh. Yeah, that's right. On Rosh Hashanah. Happy new year.
00:30:18.440
Happy new year. But people are talking about James Damore much more than that. They're saying
00:30:23.120
when the Klan hits your eye, like a big pizza pie, that's Damore. A funny line. Good job,
00:30:27.340
Twitter, whoever came up with it. But do you, we should talk about that a little bit. Valerie
00:30:31.760
Plame, of course, was the Democrat contrivance. That was a non-traversy, non-scandal during the
00:30:37.140
Bush administration. Ariel, do you have any reaction to it? I did. I had a few reactions,
00:30:43.100
but I'll try, I'll try to keep it short. You know, I thought what was interesting is that she's
00:30:46.840
been a contributor on various major news networks like CNN, I believe, and others. And many have
00:30:51.940
pointed this out though, that, you know, they're all worried about having Sean Spicer be a contributor.
00:30:56.100
Never mind that this woman posted a clearly anti-Semitic article suggesting that Jews should
00:31:02.340
announce on television before they give any opinion or foreign policy expertise, they should
00:31:07.100
announce that they're Jews, just so everyone knows where their loyalties might lie. This is the content
00:31:12.180
of the article, okay? But we all know how that's worked out in the past when Jews are forced to
00:31:16.080
wear badges or... Yeah, it's totally fine, right? It ends up, I haven't finished the book. I'm reading
00:31:21.280
a book about it now, but I hope it turns out all right. Yeah, no. So she is,
00:31:25.860
I mean, it was remarkable. And the best part about it was her defense was, I'm not anti-Semitic,
00:31:30.300
but you have to admit that there are many war hawks, neocons who are Jews. And I'm thinking,
00:31:35.320
okay. Then she goes on to explain further and she says, oh, you know, I didn't read the article
00:31:40.060
thoroughly enough and I wasn't sure of this platform. Please woman, you have literally
00:31:44.800
tweeted articles from this website and from this exact author many times in the past.
00:31:50.240
So pleading ignorance, do not fall for it. She is, you know, and she's also been an anti-Israel
00:31:55.300
activist from like as long as I can remember. She was part of the Plowshares echo chamber of Ben
00:32:01.980
Rhodes and pushing the Iran deal. So, you know, I tweeted this on Twitter earlier today, but, you
00:32:07.240
know, and nothing makes the Iran deal sweeter than a little anti-Semitism, right? She basically said
00:32:12.880
what Mel Gibson got in trouble for saying, a drunken Mel Gibson slurring his words and saying all sorts
00:32:18.860
of crazy things, said Jews started all the wars in the world. And then this woman completely soberly
00:32:23.460
said the same thing. And I bet that she won't be kicked out of Hollywood for a decade.
00:32:27.860
Oh no, she doubled down on it. And then people started right and left accepting her apology.
00:32:32.860
I'm like, are you kidding me? This woman is, she's pleading ignorance and do not fall for it.
00:32:37.240
She is lying. She knows exactly what she tweeted and she tried to defend it. So.
00:32:41.220
And it's not just her. Chelsea Handler, just a couple of days ago, said on her Netflix show,
00:32:48.320
she said that Stacey, Stacey Dash, Sheriff David Clark and Ben Carson are black white supremacists.
00:32:54.940
Where's the outrage? Where's the outrage machine? I mean, this is clearly a very racist statement that
00:33:00.760
that she made. And there's radio silence. Stacey Dash called her out on it on her new article for
00:33:06.800
Young Cons. But outside of that, silence. So would you also identify as a black white supremacist?
00:33:12.540
Well, I'm going to have to say no on that. And I got to send it to Chelsea Handler herself.
00:33:23.120
Only a white supremacist would assume, I tweeted this out, would assume to have the authority
00:33:29.360
to tell a black person what their disposition is supposed to be. That's the irony, right?
00:33:35.600
Who do you think you is? There's this total irony in the form of what they're saying. The very form
00:33:42.500
throws back their assertion onto themselves. Absolutely right. All right. Ariel, Jacob,
00:33:48.280
thank you for being here. Zoman, so good to have you in. Thank you so much. We now, unfortunately,
00:33:53.340
have to kick out the whole panel to talk about the mailbag. So now we have the first mailbag question
00:34:05.680
from Joe. Hey, Sir Knowles, just wondering about some relationship advice. I'm a constitutional
00:34:12.120
conservative. My girlfriend is left-wing in between Bernie and Marx. What do I do? To quote Don Corleone,
00:34:18.860
you're going to act like a man. What's the matter with you? That you, listen, I've pretty much
00:34:25.320
exclusively dated Democrats in my life because I'm from New York and went to a liberal college and I
00:34:29.880
live in LA. You know, listen, man, the conservative view of the world is the more correct view of the
00:34:35.420
world, much more so than some socialist like Bernie Sanders or Karl Marx. I'm not sure who's further
00:34:40.600
left. So just hang around there, act like a normal person, explain some things to her, like some very
00:34:48.300
basic economic and political principles and historical examples. And she'll come along.
00:34:53.720
If she's a semi, even close to reasonable person, you'll bring her right along. Not a big deal.
00:34:58.300
From Brian, dear Michael, master of trolls, Knowles, as an avid reader of Milton Friedman and Thomas Sowell
00:35:06.900
on free market economics, I often find myself in a position to defend this point of view against these
00:35:12.460
postmodern neo-Marxists saying that Marxism is the greatest economic philosophy of all time.
00:35:17.480
Then when I plead against Marxism cases like the Gulag archipelago, the Gulag and the Soviet Union,
00:35:22.520
and even newer examples about socialism doesn't work like Venezuela, they always reply, well, that's
00:35:27.340
not real Marxism. How can you combat this argument? This argument that, but that's not real Marxism.
00:35:32.740
You hear it all the time. You say, look, all of these terrible things have happened because of
00:35:37.040
communism. Everywhere communism has been tried. It's destroyed lives. It's brought more misery than
00:35:41.360
anything else in modernity. But they say that isn't real Marxism. This is an informal logical fallacy
00:35:47.820
called the no true Scotsman argument. And the no true Scotsman argument goes like this. No Scotsman
00:35:53.600
would ever have sugar in his porridge. And you say, well, my uncle is a Scotsman and has sugar in his
00:35:59.580
porridge. He says, well, no true Scotsman would do it. So you basically, you move the goalposts,
00:36:04.820
you change the classification to, you change your premise to suit your conclusion. So it isn't,
00:36:11.220
it isn't logically valid. And, and obviously in other historical contexts, they wouldn't make
00:36:17.960
the same distinction. Well, that isn't true capitalism. Well, that isn't true Americanism.
00:36:22.220
So just throw it back in their face. It's total bunk. From Gary, Michael, I just wanted you to know
00:36:28.600
that after watching your episode with Joy Villa and Kaya Jones, I upgraded my monthly subscription to
00:36:34.080
annual, something I was considering for a while, but your show brought the decision home. No question,
00:36:38.540
just an acknowledgement. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. And you lucky duck, you're going
00:36:42.700
to get that leftist here's Tumblr. That's great. Thank you. I appreciate the kind words. From John,
00:36:47.580
dear almighty troll King Knowles, as someone who has written a book with no words, do you have a
00:36:53.080
favorite word or phrase? Is there a word or phrase you find amusing to say, use a lot in conversation,
00:36:58.720
or that has special meaning to you? If not, is there a phrase or quote that you live by?
00:37:03.560
Churchill gave a line about this. He said, it's a good for an uneducated man to read books of
00:37:09.980
quotations. And I read that quote. And then I read a bunch of books of quotations. I do love reading
00:37:15.340
quotes and pull out. So I'll, uh, off the top of my head, there are two, there are two that I live by.
00:37:22.020
One is from Alexander Pope in his essay on man. He says, all nature is, but art unknown to thee,
00:37:28.840
all chance direction, which thou canst not see. I love that quote. I think it's really beautiful and
00:37:35.080
explains a semiotic view of the world and coincidences. And then of course, the word that
00:37:40.140
I live by every second of the day is covfefe. Covfefe. C-O-V-F-E-F-E. Next question from Monica.
00:37:49.180
Dear Michael, God help us Knowles. Why is it the English hate us, but seem obsessively interested
00:37:55.060
in us? Best Monica. Why do the English hate us, but seem so interested in us? Uh, it's because
00:38:00.920
the, uh, instead of the Queen's English, they would be speaking the Fuhrer's German. If it weren't for
00:38:06.080
us, they hate us because they ain't us. From Patrick. How has the price of a lap dance managed
00:38:12.480
to defy economics and inflation over the past decade? I am going to ignore the obvious pun
00:38:20.100
between lap dance and inflation and move right onto the question. That, that is interesting. I guess,
00:38:26.100
uh, I, uh, if the, if costs of lap dances haven't increased, it probably, probably the answer is
00:38:31.640
internet pornography, right? One presumes there's the same supply of strippers and therefore lap dances
00:38:39.180
that there ever was. It's probably keeping up with population growth, but the demand is probably
00:38:44.660
much lower now because 20 years ago or 30 years ago, if you wanted to engage in some just debaucherous
00:38:50.800
carousing and lust, you would have to go to your local dive and pay a lady to dance on you. But now
00:38:57.720
you can just close the blinds and from the comfort of your own room, uh, engage in, I think a $10
00:39:03.140
billion industry, which is internet pornography. So sad for the dancers and probably, probably sad for
00:39:09.020
our culture too, because porn industry is growing immensely. From Derek, how would America be
00:39:14.740
different if the founding fathers had not been Christian? Uh, it's, it's an impossible hypothetical
00:39:20.900
because it, uh, Christianity, it's an impossible in the situation because of the development of America,
00:39:27.820
but also in the development of the West. The only way that that would have happened is if we hadn't
00:39:32.600
turned away the Muslim invaders at Lepanto or tours and, uh, and the West had developed entirely
00:39:39.500
differently. So one can't really imagine, but it is worth considering the, uh, providential founding
00:39:46.040
of the country. Um, I am, despite my, uh, Sicilian complexion, part of my family is English. And I think
00:39:52.980
four of my ancestors came over on the Mayflower, signed the Mayflower complex. And so I've read a lot
00:39:58.040
about the Mayflower and, you know, they're, they were headed over toward New York. They were headed
00:40:02.300
over toward Manhattan. They get blown off course by hundreds of miles, but they don't even go up to
00:40:07.140
the next best Harbor up in Boston Harbor. They end up in this little strange place called Plymouth.
00:40:12.020
And then out of the woods immediately emerge the only two people in the hemisphere who speak English,
00:40:17.800
uh, Squanto and Samoset. And they find these perfectly tilled fields ready for agriculture.
00:40:24.260
They find stores of corn, but they don't find a lot of people because a plague had wiped them all out
00:40:29.820
three years earlier. All of the, there are some cases where Occam's razor would say the, the more
00:40:36.020
likely answer is Providence rather than some random chance. And so there's been this Christian, uh,
00:40:43.860
character of the nation since then. Uh, John Winthrop obviously gave the famous speech, a city upon a
00:40:49.440
hill, a model of Christian charity. And the founding fathers were, uh, deeply religious.
00:40:54.940
Some were deistic, some were more traditionally Christian. And they said that this constitution
00:40:59.520
is only fit for a moral and religious people. So I have no idea what the country would look like.
00:41:04.080
It wouldn't be the country would be utterly different. It would be a totally alternate universe.
00:41:10.720
Next question from Rachel. Hello, Michael. I'm enjoying your show so far. Thank you. And I think
00:41:16.440
it's a great addition to the daily wire. Thank you again. Seeing as guns trigger leftists so much pun,
00:41:21.140
not intended. Yeah. Right. I'd like to know, do you own a firearm? And if you could have the firearm
00:41:25.480
of your choice, what would it be? This would be ignoring your state's laws. For example, if it is
00:41:30.180
not legal to have an AR 15. Thanks, Rachel. Funny you bring up the AR 15 and the gun control laws.
00:41:35.940
I did not have a gun. I didn't own a gun. I didn't especially care. It's fun to go shoot clay
00:41:40.600
pigeons or something, but I could rent or borrow some friends. But then California passed gunpocalypse.
00:41:46.440
And they were going to ban the AR 15. They said in three months, the AR 15 is going to be banned.
00:41:51.840
So I thought, well, if I ever want an AR 15, I have to buy it right now. What did I do? I immediately
00:41:57.140
went out with a number of the daily wire people, God King Jeremy Boring and the production King,
00:42:04.220
Jonathan Hay. And we went down and went AR 15 shopping. So I do sometimes wonder if the Democrats
00:42:10.560
own huge stock in these gun companies, because we're so reactive to it. The minute they try to
00:42:17.180
ban something, it's the best thing that could possibly happen for sales. So yeah, I do have an
00:42:22.080
AR 15. It's not even my favorite gun. I prefer shooting shotguns and clay pigeons and stuff.
00:42:26.840
Marshall and I went shooting a little while ago, but keep banning a man and we're just going to keep
00:42:30.960
buying them. Next question from Brendan. Dear Mr. The Only Good Knowles in the world. Thank you.
00:42:37.200
As a young lad getting more and more into politics, I have a question. What are different subjects to
00:42:41.980
look into when getting into politics, economics, government crap, and all that other stuff? His
00:42:47.140
words, not mine. Thanks, Brendan. Yeah, you should look at all that crap, Brendan. You should look at
00:42:52.520
obviously history, economics, political philosophy, all of that. But you should ground all of your
00:42:59.700
political thinking in the foundational texts of the West. So you should ground it all in
00:43:07.340
Plato, Aristotle. You should read a lot of the classics. You should read the modern classics
00:43:12.080
like Machiavelli's Discourses on Livy and The Prince. And then as far as I'm concerned, for even
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more modern political texts, you ought to read Edmund Burke's Reflections on the Revolution in France
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and all of his other writing as well. Russell Kirk is good to read everything Bill Buckley wrote,
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conscience of a conservative, all of that stuff. But I would, as a conservative, I would ground your
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political learning in the classics and in history because you'll figure out what has worked over time
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and you will avoid what the left does. The left compares every single news cycle, anything that
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possibly happens to the Third Reich or the fall of Rome. And it's because those are the only two
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things they know about. They're the only two things they've ever studied. So you should study more
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and then you'll have more historical knowledge to pull upon. From David. Question. The Dennis Rodman
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solution. That's the title. We sent him in with a firearm that breaks down into facial piercings.
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Get him close. Assemble the firearm and become an international hero overnight. How do you see this
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plan working out? Excuse me. I'm sorry. Just one second. Tango jump shot. Tango jump shot. They're onto us.
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They're onto us. I'll have to think about it. I don't have an answer on that. From James.
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Dear King of Trolls. As a history alumnus of Yale, could you please help me with my history essay
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about how enlightenment values influenced the American Revolution? If you answer this,
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I'll be able to cite the Michael Knowles show in my bibliography. You should also cite reasons to vote
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for Democrats. That has an extensive bibliography that might aid you. The real answer is it would be
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easier to write about how enlightenment values did not influence the American Revolution. All of the
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American revolutionaries, all of the ones that we saw write the Federalist Papers and Craft Our
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Constitution and the Declaration were enlightenment thinkers themselves, American enlightenment thinkers.
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So in the Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson is channeling John Locke and the natural
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rights to life, liberty, and property or the pursuit of happiness. You see Benjamin Franklin visited
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Europe a lot of times was engaged in these debates that come out of the enlightenment. He brought those
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ideas back to Philadelphia and obviously the Federalist Papers and the Constitution express this
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as well, not simply the Declaration of Independence. So the real answer is everything. It would be far
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easier to point to even the writings of Thomas Paine that come later and thankfully only affected it a
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little bit and not entirely because he was quite radical. It would be much easier to point to aspects
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of the enlightenment that did not influence the American Revolution than how they were influential on
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the revolution. Final question. This is the last one from Teresa. Hey, Mr. Hillary is my distant cousin
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Knowles. You make me relive that trauma. Now I need a moment. What is your favorite musical and or
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Broadway show? My favorite musical, my favorite Broadway show is the first one that I ever performed
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in as a little eight-year-old boy and it is unsurprisingly Guys and Dolls. What's not to like?
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You get cool guys like Sky Masterson and Nathan played by Marlon Brando and Frank Sinatra in the movie.
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You get all those cute chickadees. It's a show about men and women. I enjoy women. It's a show about
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gambling. Sometimes I like gambling. It's a show about Christianity. I really like Christianity. It's got it all.
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It's set in New York. It's set at a great time. I love it. I think it's a masterfully done show
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that really sums up that era of American Broadway musicals. All right, that's it. We got to get out
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of here. Thank you for watching. Tune back on Monday. Happy Rosh Hashanah to those who celebrate.
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I'm definitely celebrating because I am not going to have to be in this office tomorrow. So we'll see
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you then. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show. We'll talk to you next week.