The Michael Knowles Show - March 11, 2019


Ep. 311 - Why AOC Is Wrong About Everything


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48 minutes

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166.12291

Word Count

8,113

Sentence Count

729

Misogynist Sentences

26

Hate Speech Sentences

15


Summary

Democrat darling Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez calls capitalism irredeemable and America garbage. We will examine why AOC is wrong about everything. And why she s wrong about almost everything else.


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00:00:37.680 Democrat darling Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez calls capitalism irredeemable and America garbage.
00:00:45.300 We will examine why AOC is wrong about everything.
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00:01:21.000 Lots to get to.
00:01:22.060 We're talking about AOC because AOC, the thing I'm very grateful to her for,
00:01:27.780 is that she makes abundantly clear what the left actually believes,
00:01:33.200 which is that capitalism is irredeemable and America is garbage.
00:01:36.120 But we will explain why she gets that exactly backwards.
00:01:41.280 Actually, it's every other economic system that is irredeemable, unsupportable, immoral.
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00:03:22.260 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was down at South by Southwest
00:03:26.700 over the weekend.
00:03:28.540 We saw a lot of great clips from her.
00:03:30.020 The nice thing about her,
00:03:31.440 frequently wrong but never in doubt.
00:03:33.320 She just says exactly what she's thinking.
00:03:36.300 She sounds like she's a freshman in college.
00:03:40.220 Just whatever ideas pop into her mind
00:03:41.820 as though she's just discovered them.
00:03:43.380 Here is AOC's take
00:03:45.200 at South by Southwest,
00:03:47.140 at maybe the
00:03:48.720 pinnacle of capitalism,
00:03:51.260 the most obvious, decadent, luxurious festival
00:03:55.940 where we can talk about
00:03:56.900 all the wonderful fruits of capitalism.
00:03:59.260 She decides that that is the occasion
00:04:01.080 to mention why capitalism is irredeemable.
00:04:04.500 Capitalism to me is
00:04:07.060 it's an ideology of capital.
00:04:09.740 It puts capital,
00:04:10.940 the most important thing
00:04:12.440 is the concentration of capital
00:04:15.840 and it means that we seek
00:04:18.800 and prioritize profit
00:04:20.520 and the accumulation of money
00:04:22.580 above all else
00:04:24.880 and we seek it
00:04:26.160 at any human
00:04:27.140 and environmental cost.
00:04:29.220 That is what that means
00:04:30.640 and to me
00:04:31.540 that ideology
00:04:32.480 is not sustainable
00:04:33.540 and cannot be redeemed.
00:04:35.480 This is that moment
00:04:36.920 in 11th grade class
00:04:38.840 where you didn't do the reading
00:04:40.340 and then the teacher calls on you
00:04:42.420 and you're going for it
00:04:43.680 and you're going to keep a straight face.
00:04:45.120 Yes, Alexandria, what is capitalism?
00:04:49.680 Sorry, what was the question?
00:04:51.540 Alexandria, just like in our reading last night,
00:04:53.480 what did our reading say capitalism is?
00:04:55.980 Oh, capitalism.
00:04:57.340 Yeah, capitalism is
00:04:58.880 the economic theory
00:05:03.200 with capital.
00:05:04.980 I'd say mostly it's about capital,
00:05:08.320 a lot of capital,
00:05:09.800 you know,
00:05:11.240 and it's very much
00:05:12.440 not about not capital.
00:05:14.580 So things that are not capital
00:05:16.460 like morality
00:05:20.720 or waffles
00:05:23.040 or giraffes,
00:05:25.480 like things that are not capital,
00:05:27.020 it's like not,
00:05:27.920 not no,
00:05:29.420 not that,
00:05:30.280 but capital,
00:05:31.320 yeah,
00:05:32.100 yeah.
00:05:33.840 That's what I would say capitalism is.
00:05:36.860 That's her,
00:05:37.780 it's not what capitalism is.
00:05:38.860 Her explanation is not correct
00:05:42.080 or sufficient
00:05:43.180 by any standard.
00:05:45.940 Capitalism,
00:05:47.220 I think a lot of people
00:05:48.800 are confused on this.
00:05:49.800 I mean,
00:05:49.960 we're hearing these surveys come out
00:05:52.220 that over 50% of young Americans
00:05:54.580 oppose capitalism
00:05:55.920 and they support socialism.
00:05:57.300 And it's because they don't know
00:05:58.520 what capitalism is.
00:05:59.720 Capitalism,
00:06:00.600 essentially,
00:06:02.200 is property rights.
00:06:04.200 That's what it boils down to.
00:06:05.620 Some people think it boils down
00:06:06.980 primarily to the free market
00:06:09.300 or the invisible hand
00:06:10.540 or some phrase that they learned
00:06:11.980 in high school.
00:06:12.880 No,
00:06:13.360 it really essentially boils down
00:06:15.620 to property.
00:06:17.920 Do you have the right
00:06:19.060 to own and possess
00:06:20.640 something
00:06:21.980 or anything?
00:06:23.440 If you have the right
00:06:24.960 to private property,
00:06:27.420 this implies
00:06:28.400 a capitalist system.
00:06:30.760 Private property rights.
00:06:31.960 And now,
00:06:33.380 who would oppose
00:06:33.880 private property rights?
00:06:35.560 Communists would.
00:06:36.820 Socialists would.
00:06:37.900 I guess Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez does.
00:06:40.480 But moral people
00:06:41.660 don't oppose property rights.
00:06:43.500 Nobody can make
00:06:44.080 a moral argument
00:06:45.000 really against
00:06:45.680 private property.
00:06:47.280 And why do we have
00:06:48.000 a right to property?
00:06:49.160 There are a few
00:06:49.960 competing theories
00:06:51.420 as to why we have a right
00:06:52.380 to private property.
00:06:53.520 There's the labor theory.
00:06:55.420 This is the
00:06:56.280 John Locke's view
00:06:57.720 of property rights.
00:06:59.160 It's very popular
00:06:59.840 among libertarians.
00:07:00.960 that I have the right
00:07:02.120 to property
00:07:02.740 because I have the right
00:07:03.860 to my own labor.
00:07:05.760 I have the right
00:07:06.200 to the fruits of my labor.
00:07:07.820 Which is sort of true
00:07:09.220 but not really true.
00:07:10.220 Like for instance,
00:07:10.880 if I'm a
00:07:11.580 winemaker,
00:07:13.460 I'm a laborer
00:07:14.800 at a vineyard
00:07:15.340 and I make wine.
00:07:16.220 I press the grapes
00:07:17.360 and I make wine
00:07:18.200 out of that.
00:07:19.180 I don't have the right
00:07:20.220 to the wine
00:07:20.800 because I have the right
00:07:23.200 to my labor
00:07:23.860 but I don't have
00:07:25.100 the right to the grapes,
00:07:26.020 I don't have the right
00:07:26.520 to the field,
00:07:27.100 I don't have the right
00:07:27.820 to the presses,
00:07:28.680 I don't have the right
00:07:29.360 to any of the other things that are necessary to make wine. So I have the right to my wages
00:07:35.220 for making the wine. In that sense, I have the right to the fruit of my labor, but I don't have
00:07:39.440 the right to the things that are made with my labor. Another theory is the legal theory of
00:07:46.940 property, which is that if the state says you have a right to property, then you have a right
00:07:50.460 to property. Again, this is pretty insufficient. This would be Thomas Hobbes' theory of it,
00:07:57.020 probably, and that isn't really defensible. You see how that breaks down, like for instance,
00:08:02.240 once Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez runs your government. There is another theory called the personality
00:08:06.620 theory of property, which is that, I guess this is a little closer to it, which is that private property
00:08:11.920 is essential to individuality. It's essential to the development of the human mind, which requires
00:08:19.020 things. In order to have individuality, to develop your human mind, you need certain things, and in
00:08:28.080 order to have things, you need to have the right to have things. So that's close. It's a little vague
00:08:32.460 though, obviously. The real reason, the actual defense, the moral defense of private property
00:08:39.380 is a biblical argument. It's a very basic moral argument, which is that thou shalt not steal.
00:08:48.880 That's why. That's why we have a right to property, is because thou shalt not steal.
00:08:54.840 Thou shalt not steal presumes that someone has property, and you have your own property. Or maybe
00:09:00.720 you don't have your own property, but even if you don't have your own property, you can't steal
00:09:04.280 somebody else's property just because you want it. And furthermore, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's
00:09:10.000 goods. Even if you really want his oxen, you cannot covet that oxen. That's wrong. These are
00:09:15.900 the arguments against, or rather, I suppose they're the arguments for private property and against
00:09:22.600 taking private property away from people. Pope Pius X in 1903 put this very clearly. He said,
00:09:28.860 quote, unlike the beast, man has on earth, not only the right of use, but a permanent right of
00:09:36.500 ownership. And this is true, not only of those things which are consumed in their use, but also
00:09:42.020 of those which are not consumed by their use. So it's not just that you have the right to own a cherry
00:09:47.700 pie or a cigar, which is eaten and burned. You have the right to own instruments of capital. You have
00:09:56.120 the right to own a computer. You have the right to own a leftist tears tumbler to safely store your
00:10:01.540 leftist tears. He goes on, he says, quote, private property is under all circumstances, be it the fruit
00:10:09.400 of labor, fruit of labor being the wages that you receive for your labor, or acquired by conveyance
00:10:18.220 or donation. A natural right. And everybody may make such reasonable disposal of it as he thinks
00:10:26.020 fit. This is what it comes down to. Private property is a natural right. For AOC to say that
00:10:33.320 capitalism is irredeemable is to say that private property is irredeemable. You can't morally defend
00:10:39.060 private property. But quite to the contrary, you can't defend an economic system without private
00:10:45.800 property. That is indefensible. Private property is a natural right. Our country speaks very highly
00:10:52.160 of natural rights, the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, which demands the
00:10:58.420 ability to own property. Civilization would be impossible without private property. You know,
00:11:06.780 the pilgrims found this when they came to America on the Mayflower. They were sort of communists in the
00:11:11.680 first couple of years after they landed. And they quickly found out that it would lead to starvation
00:11:17.020 and men wouldn't work. Governor Bradford wrote about this. He said, men don't want to work under
00:11:20.880 the communist system. They just lay about all day because they don't want to work for another man's
00:11:25.400 benefit. And so quickly he learned that we needed to institute some private property. They divvied up
00:11:33.000 land in a private way. All of a sudden production flourished. Why else? No family could exist without
00:11:39.200 private property. What is having a family? You need to have some say over your family's affairs. You
00:11:44.260 need to provide shelter. You need to provide food. You need to provide education. All of those things
00:11:48.220 require money. All of those things require private property. Society would break down.
00:11:55.900 Communist governments, socialist governments, they say that they don't like private property. But of
00:12:01.600 course, in practice, we've never seen a society get rid of private property. What happens in
00:12:07.400 communist and socialist societies? They just steal the private property from others and they
00:12:12.640 consolidate it at the top. That's what happens in Cuba. That's why the Castros are so rich. It's not
00:12:16.920 because the private property doesn't exist. It's that they took all the private property. It's what
00:12:20.780 the ruling class did in Venezuela. It's what the ruling class did in the Soviet Union. That's what the
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00:13:56.100 The reality is actually the opposite. This has been acknowledged by moral philosophers for all
00:14:00.960 of history, going back to Aristotle. Then she decides to take her argument up to 11 and calls
00:14:06.140 America garbage. I think all of these things sound radical compared to where we are, but where we are
00:14:13.320 is not a good thing. And this idea of like 10% better from garbage shouldn't be what we settle
00:14:22.140 for. It's like this like, it feels like moderate is not a stance. It's just an attitude toward life of
00:14:31.480 like, hmm. She is so, so millennial. Just that the way she talks, she can't finish sentences.
00:14:46.680 She can't complete a thought. So she just says, ooh, ah, ooh, kind of random gesticulations and
00:14:51.500 three words here and three words there. Ooh, ah, ah, ee, ooh, ooh, ah, ah, ding, dong,
00:14:55.720 wada, wada, bing, bang. She sounds like a typical rich kid. That's actually what she sounds like.
00:15:00.500 She's there in her nice custom or, you know, designer clothing, South by Southwest, very
00:15:06.400 decadent capitalist festival. She's sitting there being interviewed. She says, oh, you know,
00:15:10.680 it's all so terrible. Oh, oh, the ennui. Oh, oh, it's just so, ah, it's so hard to find good help
00:15:18.800 these days. So I just, it's like, I need something I'm really passionate about. You know, I just,
00:15:25.780 I, oh, excuse me. I'll have a little, a little, the Chablis is a little warm. Could you get a
00:15:30.460 little thank you? Oh, it's just so terrible. I hate my life. Ooh. This is what rich kids do.
00:15:40.220 This is why rich kids all do drugs in the suburbs because they don't, they don't have any real
00:15:45.880 troubles. They don't have any struggle. They don't have any sense of something they're struggling for.
00:15:51.000 And so they complain about how nice things are. They don't know how good they've got it. They don't
00:15:55.620 know the value of a dollar. We know AOC grew up in relative affluence. She didn't take her studies
00:16:03.680 very seriously, obviously. She hasn't worked terribly hard. She didn't, you know, she, she
00:16:09.600 worked, she lived with her parents, according to voter records until 2016. I guess she was working
00:16:14.440 as a bartender. I don't know how many days a week. And then she's on the public dole now
00:16:19.440 and funneling money into private companies and things like that for her own use. She doesn't
00:16:27.020 value what we've got here. This is a problem with millennials, especially those who grew up
00:16:31.420 after the Cold War, because it has an attitude. It implies an attitude of easy come, easy go.
00:16:38.840 Oh, this, this civilization, she didn't work for this. To quote Barack Obama, she didn't build that.
00:16:44.820 But we've inherited this fabulous civilization, this wonderful American society where everything
00:16:51.860 is really nice and peaceful and rich and just lovely. And we say, ah, easy come, easy go. Let's
00:16:58.560 try something totally different. Let's just throw it all away. It's, it's that Chesterton fence problem.
00:17:04.980 She gets up, she sees all of these American institutions, all of these American ideas,
00:17:10.820 and she doesn't know how they got there. She doesn't know why they're there. She don't tear it
00:17:14.400 down. I don't see why it's there. Why is private property? We don't need, do we need that? No,
00:17:18.280 I don't think so. Just tears it all down. It's so disrespectful. It is this standing on the
00:17:26.100 shoulders of giants and thinking that you're flying, standing on the shoulders of, of giants
00:17:31.380 and spitting on them, saying, who cares? You didn't, you're not so great. I'm so much better
00:17:37.980 than you because I'm a modern person. I'm alive right now. Garbage. Imagine that calling your country
00:17:43.440 garbage, calling your countrymen garbage. When we say that the left hates America,
00:17:47.280 this is what we're talking about. They protest the American flag. They call the country garbage.
00:17:53.220 Her words, not mine. Then she goes on to, to explain why America is garbage.
00:17:59.940 We should not be haunted by the specter of being automated out of work, right? Uh, we shouldn't,
00:18:07.120 we should not feel nervous about, uh, you know, the toll booth collector, not having to collect tolls
00:18:14.680 anymore. Um, we should be excited by that. But the reason we're not excited by it is because
00:18:20.980 we live in a society where if you don't have a job, you are left to die. And that is at its core,
00:18:30.500 our problem. What society is she living in? Gosh, the fantasy society in her head sounds really awful.
00:18:40.360 Fantasy America is a really terrible place. You know, of course, in real America, nobody is left
00:18:44.360 to die. As a matter of fact, anybody can go get healthcare and illegal aliens go to the emergency
00:18:48.880 room all the time. Nobody is left to die in America. She says that if you don't have a job,
00:18:55.440 you're left to die. We have an extraordinarily generous unemployment insurance system. We have
00:19:03.300 extraordinarily generous unemployment medical benefits, Medicare, Medicaid, all of these programs,
00:19:12.080 not to say nothing of the civil society, to say nothing of charities that provide these sorts of
00:19:15.980 things. But she says people are, are left to die in America. And then think about the point on
00:19:23.640 automation. She says, look, we shouldn't be upset if a job gets destroyed because
00:19:29.880 that, that means that you don't have to work anymore. Isn't that great? Then you don't have
00:19:37.380 to work. I mean, this is her doubling down in the green new deal. The draft legislation says that they
00:19:42.160 will provide money for people who are unable to work or unwilling to work. They can say, I don't want
00:19:49.140 to work for my keep. That's fine. You just get a check. Unwilling to work. And then people said,
00:19:55.880 oh, she's being taken out of context. She didn't really mean that. No, she did. She's saying it
00:19:59.280 right here. Unwilling to work. This, what a good thing. But what it also misunderstands is the role of
00:20:07.260 work. Because we all joke, you know, sometimes we're not joking. We say, oh, my job is killing me
00:20:12.300 today. Oh gosh. Oh, you know, I've, I've been on the road for weeks. I'm hitting the road again,
00:20:16.380 you know, later. I've had a headache for a while. I just, some days you just don't want to
00:20:21.060 wake up and go into work. Except work is a very good thing. Adam worked in the garden of Eden.
00:20:27.680 Consider that. In paradise, man worked. Man is supposed to work. It is good for man to work.
00:20:34.300 What would you do if you didn't work? I think it was Moliere who said, I think it was Moliere,
00:20:38.880 somebody said that hell is the place where you have nothing to do but amuse yourself all the time.
00:20:46.760 That is what hell is. I mean, you know this. If you have, take a vacation for the first day,
00:20:51.720 you're just like, woohoo, yeah, you're just binge watching Netflix. You're drinking, I don't know,
00:20:56.420 you're going out, you're stuffing your face. And then by day four, you're just sort of lazing around.
00:21:00.800 You're just like, I don't know what to do. I don't know why I'm waking up anymore.
00:21:04.460 We have to, it is good to work. Even if you could tax the rich, soak the rich, give everybody a free
00:21:10.280 check, that would be worse for society. This is why the universal basic income is unhuman per se.
00:21:16.240 That's why it is just wrong on its face. Because it is bad not to work. It is bad to incentivize
00:21:23.440 people not to work. But how is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez going to pay for everybody not to work?
00:21:32.440 One of the reasons that this ideology or questions of whether you want to call it democratic socialism
00:21:38.540 or techno-futurism or like whatever it is, it is because our technological advancement as a society
00:21:47.280 has outpaced our system for handling finite resources. Because now we are approaching
00:21:53.360 infinite resources.
00:21:55.420 What? This is, this sounds like that one of those late night bull sessions that, you know,
00:22:04.400 you have freshman year when you're really hammered. That's what she sounds like. She's, you know,
00:22:09.620 yeah, man, because, because, you know, man, we're thinking in a finite world, you know, fine. But
00:22:18.960 imagine if it were infinite, which is where we're going. We're not going, by the way, to an infinite
00:22:24.420 resources economy. Things in the material world are finite. This woman, by the way, is 29 years old.
00:22:32.880 She has a college degree. Theoretically, it was, she majored in economics, which is evidence to
00:22:38.260 decertify the BU economics program. We're, what does that mean? We're thinking in this minor,
00:22:44.600 you know, this kind of finite, infinite, finite, no, no, no. She says that Bill Gates has an idea.
00:22:54.520 Do we have the clip of, of her Bill Gates idea?
00:22:57.380 There are a lot of different solutions or a lot of different proposed, uh, ideas about
00:23:02.540 how we go about that. You know, Bill Gates has talked about taxing robots at 90%. And what that means,
00:23:09.720 what he's really talking about is taxing corporations at 90%. Um, but it's easier to say
00:23:16.660 tax a robot. So, not really, actually. It's no surprise. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez doesn't know
00:23:23.260 very much about how taxation works. She thought that a tax incentive was just giving out money from a
00:23:28.320 slush pile with regard to the Amazon move into New York. So, she doesn't know what taxes are.
00:23:33.860 What Bill Gates means when he says we need to tax robots is not that we're going to tax
00:23:40.920 corporations. We already tax corporations and we're going to continue to tax corporations. And
00:23:45.140 until President Trump, we had one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world.
00:23:49.840 What, what it means to tax robots is to tax capital investment, right? So, if you're a business owner,
00:23:58.820 you've got your money, whatever your cashflow is, whatever investment you've got, whatever money
00:24:02.880 you've got at your use, you can put it into one of two things. Capital, that is to say,
00:24:09.360 renovating the store, buying robots, touchscreens at McDonald's, capital, technology, or labor.
00:24:20.360 People, you can hire more people, you can pay your people more, you can whatever. Capital and labor,
00:24:25.520 those are the two places that you can invest your money. So, when you tax the robots, what you are
00:24:30.880 really taxing is capital investment. So, what you are really taxing is automation. So, what you are
00:24:37.700 really doing is creating an incentive to keep paying the tollbooth operator. So, what you are
00:24:43.500 really doing is the, so, where Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez began her argument is, don't worry about the tollbooth
00:24:51.560 operator. Let the tollbooth operator lose her job. We're going to automate everything. It'll be great.
00:24:55.940 And how are you going to deal with the tollbooth operator? Oh, we're going to create economic
00:25:00.320 incentives not to automate anybody so that the tollbooth operator can keep her job.
00:25:05.320 You just said it was good for the tollbooth operator to lose her job. Now, you're advocating
00:25:09.280 for economic incentives to let the tollbooth operator keep her job. All of this, all of this amounts to
00:25:15.200 AOC not really understanding very much about economics. This is no surprise. So, what does she do?
00:25:22.720 She doesn't know much about economics. She doesn't know about the moral arguments for this economic
00:25:26.860 system. She can't make any economic arguments for her own system, which is socialism or democratic
00:25:34.260 socialism, whatever she wants to call it. So, then she pivots, as they always do, and they can't make
00:25:38.860 the arguments that they're trying to make. They pivot to a racial argument.
00:25:43.440 I think a perfect example of how special interests and the powerful have pitted white working class
00:25:54.740 Americans against brown and black working class Americans in order to just screw over all working
00:26:02.280 class Americans is Reaganism in the 80s when he started talking about welfare queens. He's painting
00:26:13.940 this like really resentful vision of essentially black women who were doing nothing that were sucks
00:26:22.140 on our country, right?
00:26:25.560 Who said black women? Hold on a second. Let me rewind the clip. I'm going to go through.
00:26:30.860 I have a little monitor over here of everything Ronald Reagan's ever said about welfare queens.
00:26:36.200 Where did he? Can we just go through every... Oh, yeah. He didn't mention black women. You mentioned
00:26:39.840 black women. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez mentioned black women. That's the subtle racism. That's what is
00:26:46.740 revealed. What she's saying is that when Ronald Reagan says people who just sit at home and don't
00:26:52.280 work at all and just collect a check from the government, that's not good and we should reform
00:26:57.460 that. What AOC hears is, oh, it's just those black women. It's just those lazy blacks. That's what she
00:27:03.920 hears. But he never said that. She just heard it. Why did she hear it? I don't know. Maybe that's her
00:27:09.480 own prejudices or biases or bigotry or whatever. She is doing exactly what she accuses Reagan of
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00:28:25.440 So AOC is doing exactly what she accuses Reagan of doing. She says that what Reagan did
00:28:31.140 was to pit white working class Americans against brown and black working class Americans.
00:28:39.700 When did he do this? I don't know. I never saw it happen. Well, the one example she gives is welfare
00:28:44.720 queens, but welfare queens are not in the working class because they don't work. I think to be in
00:28:49.920 the working class, you have to work. That seems to be a very basic definition of working class.
00:28:54.940 So she can't give any example, but she is using this racially divisive language and she's accusing
00:29:00.760 her opponents of racial bigotry, which is what the left always does. But this is a subtle
00:29:05.120 generational distinction. Back when Bernie Sanders and Karl Marx were inventing communism back,
00:29:11.980 you know, in the 19th century, they would sit together and they would break down society only along
00:29:19.580 class lines. So it was only the working man, the poor, the industrial labor versus the capitalists,
00:29:27.100 the rich guys, whatever. This was good for a time. This worked for them for a spell. But what
00:29:33.980 intersectionality managed to do was add in all of the racial identity politics as well. And that's
00:29:39.440 where AOC is. So it's no longer sufficient as Bernie Sanders does to only talk about the poor and the
00:29:46.800 rich and to demagogue the rich and to vilify the rich. Now you have to go a little more particular
00:29:54.540 and vilify the rich white people. You have to say that the rich white men or the rich white straight
00:30:04.200 men or the rich white straight men who think they're men, you got to get much, much more specific.
00:30:08.740 Why is this more useful? Because by definition, you're getting to a smaller minority. This is the 99%
00:30:14.740 versus the 1% kind of rhetoric. So when you get to that smaller minority, it's easy for everyone
00:30:20.080 to get behind it. It's easy for, you know, there was one time I was in DC, I was walking around DC
00:30:25.800 and I walked by the Hebrew Israelites. Those are those black supremacists who were in the incident
00:30:30.580 with the Covington high school kids. And, you know, they're kind of a mainstay in DC and New York.
00:30:36.000 You hear them calling out, you know, you white devil and you white this. And, and I was then in a
00:30:42.220 coffee shop and I hear these two girls ahead of me say, gosh, those, those black Israelites, they,
00:30:50.820 they called me a white devil. And they said that I'm an oppressor because I'm in a white woman.
00:30:55.440 And I said, I said, guys, are you crazy? Come on. I'm a woman. I've been oppressed too.
00:31:01.960 I said, oh my gosh. Oh no, here we go. She had the right reaction, which is, are you ridiculous? No,
00:31:07.700 I'm not oppressed. And neither are you. You're here in the richest country in the world. You
00:31:11.560 almost certainly don't work. And yet you're very large people. So clearly you're eating just fine.
00:31:16.380 One of the biggest problems among the poor in America is they're too fat. It's obesity. That's
00:31:21.080 a first world problem. Everyone has this lovely decadent sort of thing. You can stand here on the
00:31:27.140 street shouting your vicious remarks and nobody's going to arrest you. Nobody's going to stop you.
00:31:32.780 This is a pretty easy society to live in. That's the right response. But instead she has to take
00:31:40.040 the response and say, oh no, I'm a victim too. Please let's gang up on the white guy. But cause
00:31:44.520 we're on the same side, Buster. I mean, that's, that's what AOC, that's what intersectional politics
00:31:49.660 are convincing people to do. But this is the new generation. This is what the new Democrats are.
00:31:55.820 And there was a comical display of the old Democrats, Howard Schultz, Colorado Governor
00:32:04.180 John Hickenlooper. Over the weekend, they came out, they tried to make their case for why they're,
00:32:08.720 they're better than AOC at handling these issues. It just falls flat. Here's Starbucks CEO,
00:32:14.700 former Starbucks CEO, Howard Schultz. In the Green New Deal, there is a proposal that says
00:32:19.900 that by 2030, every building in America is going to be transformed to clean energy. Now, that's a
00:32:28.580 well-intentioned idea, but it's never going to happen. So my question to the people who are proposing
00:32:37.380 these things is, let's propose things that are true, that are honest, that are sincere, and that are
00:32:44.120 realistic. Just to put the math in context, that would mean that 2,700 buildings a day between now
00:32:51.880 and 2030 would be transformed. And the government doesn't own those buildings. So they would have to
00:32:57.660 mandate, and the cost to it. Yeah, come on, guys. Come on. Hey, guys, can't we just, look, I'm on your
00:33:05.560 side, but can't we, Howard Schultz is the girls in line in DC. Howard Schultz is, is that kind of,
00:33:15.920 that squish who says to the lunatic, to the bully, who says, I'm on your side. No, no, I'm not, look,
00:33:21.760 I'm on your side, but can't we just, he's, Howard Schultz is the kind of guy who in college says,
00:33:26.240 look, communism's beautiful in theory. It's just that in practice, it's no good. No, no, no, no.
00:33:36.240 Communism is terrible in theory. It's awful. It's anti-human. It's horrific and wicked and evil.
00:33:43.940 The Green New Deal is terrible in theory. It's not good in theory. Maybe the people who wrote it
00:33:49.260 have good intentions, but it's very terrible in theory. It's a very terrible thing to tear down
00:33:54.880 every building in the country within 10 years and rebuild it so that it runs on candy canes and
00:34:01.060 daydreams or something. That's very terrible. Why? Why is it so terrible? Well, because I like my home.
00:34:08.160 I don't want you to tear down my home. Most people don't want their homes torn down just because you
00:34:13.580 don't want them to use the air conditioning. Why else? Well, because we have historic buildings in
00:34:18.540 the United States. We have beautiful 17th century buildings in some cases. Should we just tear those
00:34:25.480 down? Some of those beautiful buildings from the 19th century, just rip them all to the, all the
00:34:31.120 beautiful apartment buildings in New York, knock them down. Historic mansions in the South, knock
00:34:35.640 them down. All those great on Bourbon Street, New Orleans, you know, knock them down. What do you have
00:34:41.460 left? You've knocked down your whole country. The White House, knock it down. Well, you have to. It's
00:34:46.140 not, it's not up to AOC standards. Knock it down, build it up. It's terrible in theory. The Green New
00:34:52.940 Deal is awful in theory. It limits your choice. It takes away your private property. I'm not saying
00:35:00.660 that we need to live in some libertarian, ridiculous fantasy utopia either. That, obviously, that's,
00:35:09.860 that's crazy too. But we, right here today, right now in reality, have private property. We have a
00:35:16.740 country. We have buildings. We shouldn't rip that all to the ground. And Schultz thinks that by feeding
00:35:24.660 that crocodile, by appeasing that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, she's going to eat him last.
00:35:30.800 By feeding the radical socialist intersectional left, maybe he can compromise with it. No, he's just a
00:35:38.240 Neville Chamberlain, like all the rest of them. Then John Hickenlooper, he's, he's, I guess he's
00:35:44.540 running for president or something. Maybe, I don't know. I got like a Google alert, sort of. And I
00:35:49.860 guess is that, he's the governor of Colorado, who's probably not even going to make it to the first
00:35:54.900 debate. And he's going to run on a similar sort of thing. This guy thinks that by appeasing these
00:36:01.020 radicals, he'll be able to eke his way to the nomination. He won't even say that he's not a
00:36:06.200 socialist. You did an interview earlier in the week where you were asked three times if you would
00:36:10.880 call yourself a proud capitalist. And you wouldn't directly answer the question. It led Howard
00:36:16.700 Schultz, who's possibly a candidate, to say, if even a successful businessman and entrepreneur like
00:36:21.560 Governor Hickenlooper can't openly support capitalism in the Democratic primary, it's clear
00:36:26.420 this is Senator Sanders' party now. Why are you uncomfortable calling yourself a proud capitalist?
00:36:32.660 The point I was making is that we define people by these labels that often have all kinds of
00:36:42.520 associations and baggage with them in that sense. Do I believe in small business? Of course I believe
00:36:47.820 in small business. I started probably more than 20 different small businesses. I'd have, you know,
00:36:52.740 in one year, I'd have over a million customers. I understand that. But what's happening? I think
00:36:57.660 it's kind of a silly question. We should be looking at some of the reasons behind why we have less and
00:37:03.680 less startups. We should look at some of the reasons why, you know, more and more people aren't wanting
00:37:07.420 to start a business. Oh, that is so pathetic. This guy, John Hickenlooper, is a businessman. But this is
00:37:15.660 also your evidence, by the way, that corporate America, the kind of Chamber of Commerce Republicans,
00:37:21.000 they're just liberals. They're just left-wingers because the culture is left-wing and business just wants
00:37:26.420 to make money and they go along to get along and they want to minimize their exposure, minimize their
00:37:31.660 vulnerabilities, minimize their political risk. And so they just go along with the leftist culture.
00:37:36.300 It's why you can't really trust those guys to advance a conservative agenda. What, he won't even
00:37:42.340 say he's not a socialist. Oh, I just think these labels are so silly. What's the point of all these
00:37:48.700 labels? The point of labels is to let us know what you think. That's why we have words. That's why
00:37:52.900 Adam in the garden, going right back to Adam in the garden. One of his jobs there was to name things,
00:37:59.280 to give things labels so that we can discern them, so that we can differentiate between them.
00:38:05.860 The whole process of creation is a process of discrimination and discernment and separation,
00:38:12.520 separating the land from the sea, separating the light from the darkness, separating these things
00:38:18.320 so that you can name them. Why do we have a name for light and a name for darkness? I mean,
00:38:23.600 isn't that just silly? No, it's so that we can identify it. Why do we, why do we use terms? That's
00:38:30.460 why we use words. Politics is speech. This has been true since Pericles. This has been true since
00:38:36.440 Aristotle. Politics is meaningful speech and politics is using speech to convince people,
00:38:43.660 to persuade people, to make arguments, to appeal to people's pathos, to appeal to people's, to ethos,
00:38:52.400 to have spirit, to exhibit spirit, to appeal to people's logic, logos. That's what we, that is,
00:38:59.360 this is rhetoric, right? And what Hickenlooper wants to do is weasel his way to the democratic
00:39:05.280 nomination. He wants to be everything to everybody, but he can't stand up for anything. Why would you
00:39:10.460 ever vote for John Hickenlooper? What is, he's just nothing. John Hickenlooper, in the most
00:39:17.760 important matters of the day, would you say that you're X or Y? No, I would say I'm neutral.
00:39:23.780 I'm a little bit more, more neutral. Is that going to work? No, it's not going to work.
00:39:28.740 In the Democrat primary, Kamala Harris is the weather bane. That's how you know which way it's
00:39:33.760 going. Kamala Harris is a cynical politician. Willie Brown, old politician, just admitted to
00:39:40.520 cheating on her, cheating on his wife with her and then launching her political career because of
00:39:45.540 that. She is a tough lady. She's pretty sharp and she's going to say whatever she's got to say
00:39:51.400 to get the nomination. And she, she's the weather bane. She is moving left. She actually endorses the
00:39:57.960 basic utopian, leftist, progressive, communist, call it whatever you want, premise in a recent
00:40:05.960 impromptu campaign speech. It is a fact that we can change human behaviors without much change to
00:40:14.300 our lifestyle. And we can save the future generations of our country and this world.
00:40:20.040 Did you say that we can change human behavior? We can change, she's saying we can change human
00:40:27.180 nature is what she's saying. This is the project of progressivism or leftism is to change human
00:40:35.840 nature. Not just now, you know, it might not happen tomorrow, but over time we're going to fundamentally
00:40:41.920 change human nature. And that is going to bring us to utopia. What they seem to forget is that utopia
00:40:50.380 doesn't mean the best place. It means no place. Utopia means no place. It doesn't exist. That is a
00:40:59.080 terrible idea. You cannot change human nature. That's what makes it nature. That's what nature is.
00:41:07.140 And so when people have tried to change human nature over time, it has resulted in unspeakable human
00:41:15.000 misery. But she admits that's their purpose. We're not just taxing the rich a little bit more.
00:41:21.420 We're not just liberalizing certain social mores. We're not just, no, no. We are going to change
00:41:31.160 human nature. That is their project. That's how ambitious, that's how dangerous the left's project
00:41:37.300 is. And let me tell you, Kamala Harris has a much better chance of winning this nomination
00:41:42.260 than John Hickenlooper. Before we go, I have to say a word about Tucker Carlson.
00:41:47.600 Media Matters for America, which is a leftist assassination group, character assassination
00:41:52.700 group. They're not actually going out there with guns. They just try to assassinate people's
00:41:56.220 characters. It exists to get right-wing commentators taken off the air. It exists to censor right-wing
00:42:04.380 commentators. That's the whole purpose of Media Matters. And it is disingenuously referred to
00:42:09.440 as a media watchdog group in the mainstream media. It is not. It is a hit squad from the
00:42:16.720 left to censor right-wing commentators because they're afraid of what we have to say. So they
00:42:22.920 dug up some footage of Tucker Carlson from 13 years ago, I think it is, when he was calling
00:42:29.460 into a shock jock radio show. And they are trying to take him down over this tape.
00:42:35.180 Actually, he's not in prison for that. He didn't warn Jeff. He didn't marry underage
00:42:38.920 girls. No, he's in prison for facilitation of child rape.
00:42:42.400 Whatever the hell that means. He's in prison because he's weird and unpopular, and he has
00:42:48.180 a different lifestyle that other people find creepy.
00:42:50.620 No, he's an accessory to the rape of children. That is a felony, and a serious one at that.
00:42:55.860 What do you mean an accessory? He's got some weird religious cult where he thinks it's okay
00:43:01.180 to, you know, marry underage girls. But he didn't do it. Why wouldn't the guy who actually
00:43:06.380 did it, who had sex with an underage girl, he should be the one who's doing life?
00:43:10.760 Okay, what is... I don't even understand what I'm supposed to be shocked and outraged and
00:43:16.920 offended by here. He's calling into a show. What's the show called? Like, The Love Bunch
00:43:22.040 something? I mean, it's some ridiculous shock jock show. And he's calling in, and they're saying
00:43:29.560 provocative things to one another and making jokes. That's what this is about. And Tucker
00:43:34.980 Carlson makes the point that you should be punished far more severely if you actually
00:43:41.180 have sex with an underage girl than if you're just there at the time. Right? Like, if you're
00:43:47.940 the cult leader, it's bad to be a cult leader. I don't think Tucker Carlson's saying it's good
00:43:52.420 to be a cult leader. But it's worse to have sex with an underage girl. But I'm supposed
00:43:58.600 to be really offended or something. And then, oh, they were really upset about this one
00:44:02.600 because Tucker Carlson, he said a naughty word.
00:44:07.020 Alexis Stewart, we run into her all the time.
00:44:08.960 She seems like a... she seems awful.
00:44:11.220 Yeah, she is awful.
00:44:12.160 They're very...
00:44:12.600 She seems extremely...
00:44:15.140 ...word out of... oh, yeah, I just... I stepped over. She seems... now go ahead.
00:44:18.420 She just does seem a little...
00:44:20.420 Yeah. I mean, you said it. I'm just agreeing with you. I don't use that word because...
00:44:23.840 Right. I'd love for Tucker Carlson. Tonight on MSNBC, a girl that comes across kind of...
00:44:27.840 So the word, I guess you can't obviously hear a we bleep it out. It's a word that rhymes
00:44:33.080 with punty. Use your imagination. And so the guy, the guy who's hosting the show, he says,
00:44:40.320 yeah, she seems kind of punty. Wink. And then Tucker says, yeah, she does seem kind of punty.
00:44:47.500 Okay. That's what he said. Because no one, I'm sure no one at Media Matters has ever used
00:44:54.140 that word, the C word. Nobody there has ever said it. No. Right? None of them. Of course not.
00:45:00.860 No. Now what they would say, what Media Matters would say is, well, I think it's perfectly fine
00:45:04.400 to call women that word all the time. But Tucker says it's wrong, but he did it one time. So,
00:45:09.160 right. Okay. Okay. Whatever. He made a joke with a guy one time on a shock jock show.
00:45:14.020 Okay. Cool dude. Also, by the way, at least Tucker Carlson has standards,
00:45:19.000 which he occasionally violates as we all do. What standards do you have, Media Matters?
00:45:23.540 These guys, I have... I mean, there is no... First of all, Tucker Carlson will not lose
00:45:27.500 even one viewer over this. He will not lose one. No... I mean, this is such a disingenuous
00:45:33.640 hit job against Tucker Carlson. But they're going to try to get the right to lose their viewers.
00:45:39.340 This is what they... It's so weird. Because we don't really do this. I don't really care if
00:45:43.320 Rachel Maddow has a show. It's double income for me. I don't really care if Joy Reid has a show.
00:45:49.920 I care about the hypocrisy. I care that right-wingers are losing their shows and left-wingers are not.
00:45:57.740 That's what I care about. I don't care if... I don't know, Chris Hayes. Okay. He can have a show.
00:46:02.060 I don't watch it. Not a lot of people watch it anyway, but that's fine. But they get...
00:46:07.540 They're so offended because the left knows that they can't beat us in an actual exchange of ideas.
00:46:12.920 So they have to censor us. They have to shut us up. It's awful. These people are awful.
00:46:17.360 Media Matters for America, they are just character assassins. And it would be a real shame.
00:46:21.980 It would be a real shame if somebody went out and dug up some dirt on... Madeline Peltz,
00:46:26.380 for instance, who's a public writer for Media Matters for America. Or Christina Lopez-G.
00:46:31.700 You know, that would be real. That's another one of the authors, public authors at Media Matters. Or
00:46:35.560 Eric Hunnenkoki. It would be a real shame. A damn shame if someone went out and dug up some
00:46:42.080 embarrassing moments from 13 years ago on any of those people. It would be a real... Wouldn't that
00:46:47.420 be awful? Because then they would get a taste of their own medicine. And they would realize why a
00:46:52.800 graceless society is so awful. I would mention a few more of the public writers, except I can't
00:46:58.140 because the cowards at Media Matters for America usually hide behind an anonymous byline. Frankly,
00:47:03.360 at least those three people put their names on their hit jobs. I'll actually give them credit
00:47:07.200 for that. The rest of them just hide behind anonymity. It would be a real shame, wouldn't it,
00:47:12.920 if one of those writers at Media Matters for America got a little taste of their own graceless
00:47:17.020 medicine. All right, that's our show. A lot more to get to, but too bad. We're running late.
00:47:20.180 I will see you all tomorrow. In the meantime, I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:47:50.180 Copyright Daily Wire 2019.
00:47:52.180 Hey guys, over on The Matt Wall Show today, we're going to talk about this Tucker Carlson
00:47:55.980 situation. Carlson is in trouble for saying bad things and offering bad opinions and telling bad
00:48:02.860 jokes on a radio show a long time ago. And now the left is pretending to be outraged and calling for
00:48:08.260 him to be fired. But I don't think he should be fired. In fact, I don't think he should face any
00:48:11.960 consequences at all. And I don't even think he should apologize. And I want to explain why. We'll
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