The Michael Knowles Show


Ep. 332 - Notre Dame Isn’t A Museum—It’s A Church


Summary

The facade of Notre Dame remains, but the heart of the 800-year-old cathedral has been turned to ash. Is there any more fitting metaphor for the state of Western civilization? We ll analyze the difference between appearance and reality, from Paris all the way to the 2020 presidential primaries.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The facade of Notre Dame remains, but the heart of the 800-year-old cathedral has been turned to ash.
00:00:06.540 Is there any more fitting metaphor for the state of Western civilization?
00:00:11.020 We will analyze the difference between appearance and reality,
00:00:15.080 from Paris all the way to the 2020 presidential primaries.
00:00:18.160 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:00:20.080 A brutal news cycle yesterday, watching the Cathedral of Notre Dame burning, the spire falling.
00:00:36.000 There are some silver linings here, some of it has been saved,
00:00:40.240 but the broader takeaway is not even just about this priceless cathedral, this defining aspect of the West.
00:00:47.320 It's a broader cultural problem. We'll get to it in a second.
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00:02:19.860 So back to the West burning.
00:02:24.280 The cathedral at Notre Dame caught fire yesterday.
00:02:27.520 We don't know what caused it.
00:02:29.620 We don't know what is going to happen now, how they're going to rebuild,
00:02:34.380 what that could even mean about rebuilding.
00:02:37.060 Ilhan Omar, U.S. freshman congresswoman,
00:02:40.360 tweeted out something that so typifies our culture.
00:02:45.760 I'm actually not going after her because she's defending terrorists this time.
00:02:51.200 I'm not going after her because she's downplaying terrorist attacks.
00:02:54.420 I'm not going after her for the reasons we've been going after her for the past couple of weeks.
00:02:58.940 I'm going after her because, unfortunately,
00:03:02.080 her response to the burning of Notre Dame exemplifies our culture.
00:03:08.200 It shows you just what's wrong with a culture that would let Notre Dame burn.
00:03:13.120 She said, quote,
00:03:14.540 Art and architecture have a unique ability to help us connect across our differences
00:03:19.140 and bring people together in important ways.
00:03:22.320 Thinking of the people of Paris and praying for every first responder trying to save this wonder.
00:03:28.960 Okay.
00:03:30.320 So she's saying we're thinking of these people in Paris.
00:03:35.420 Do you notice what word was missing?
00:03:38.660 Cathedral.
00:03:39.080 Art and architecture have a unique ability to help us connect across our differences.
00:03:46.780 Sure, I get it.
00:03:47.440 Is she referring to that painting on the wall behind me,
00:03:50.300 that abstract modern catastrophe?
00:03:53.240 No.
00:03:54.000 She's talking about a cathedral, but she won't say the word cathedral.
00:03:57.860 It's just art and architecture.
00:04:00.040 Thinking of the people of Paris, art and architecture, that's all it is.
00:04:04.040 No, it's more than that.
00:04:05.200 It has meaning.
00:04:05.940 And if you don't think it has meaning, that's the rot in the culture.
00:04:11.600 The rot in now the ruins of Notre Dame is a symbol of the rot in this Western culture.
00:04:19.020 Now, how did it start?
00:04:20.180 We don't know how it started.
00:04:21.740 Officials are apparently ruling out terrorism and arson.
00:04:26.100 This was suggested it might be an act of terrorism or arson.
00:04:29.580 And yet the mainstream media are refusing to even entertain that possibility.
00:04:33.720 Yesterday, Shepard Smith on Fox News shut a guy down within seconds of even raising the possibility.
00:04:40.380 So, of course, you will hear the story about the politically correct,
00:04:46.440 the political correctness, which will tell you that it's probably an accident.
00:04:50.100 Sir, sir, sir.
00:04:51.600 We're not going to speculate here of the cause of something which we don't know.
00:04:56.060 So, if you have observations or you know something, we would love to hear it.
00:05:03.720 No, I'm just telling you something.
00:05:05.380 What we need to be ready.
00:05:07.640 No, sir.
00:05:08.260 We're not doing that here.
00:05:09.660 Not now.
00:05:10.460 Not on my watch.
00:05:12.100 No, no, no, no.
00:05:13.440 La, la, la, la, la.
00:05:14.680 We can't possibly ask why this happened.
00:05:17.600 La, la, la, la, la.
00:05:18.860 Now, why does he bring up the possibility that this was arson or terror?
00:05:22.640 Because there's been a spate of desecrations at churches and cathedrals all throughout France.
00:05:27.720 Just in the last weeks, there have been statues smashed, tabernacles knocked down.
00:05:33.680 The tabernacle, for those who don't know, is the box that houses the blessed sacrament,
00:05:38.580 the Eucharist, the communion.
00:05:40.500 All of these things.
00:05:41.480 The Eucharist has been desecrated.
00:05:43.000 Crosses have been torn down.
00:05:44.580 Just last Sunday, at the church of Saint-Sulpice, it was set on fire.
00:05:50.280 That is not as old as Notre Dame, obviously, but it's a very old church.
00:05:54.580 It dates back to the 17th century.
00:05:56.740 Last month, at the church of Saint-Nicolas in Oui, France, the statue of the Virgin Mary was smashed.
00:06:05.760 In February, the altar cloth was burned and crosses and statues of saints were smashed at Saint-Alain Cathedral.
00:06:13.000 In France, at the church of Notre Dame des Enfants, that was looted.
00:06:20.000 A cross at that church was smeared with human excrement.
00:06:23.000 Obviously, something is going on at these churches.
00:06:26.200 Something is motivating these attacks.
00:06:29.040 Something is causing people to set churches on fire and desecrate sacraments and statues and altars.
00:06:36.620 But no, no, no, we can't discuss that.
00:06:37.840 No, no, no, no, la, la, la, la, la, we can't possibly discuss that.
00:06:40.840 Also, why would someone raise the possibility that this was arson or terror?
00:06:44.920 Because of the timing.
00:06:46.900 The Cathedral of Notre Dame burned down on the first day of Holy Week.
00:06:52.300 Holy Week is what begins the time as you lead into Good Friday and to Easter Sunday.
00:06:57.580 And on that Monday, the Cathedral of Notre Dame burns down.
00:07:01.680 So I don't think it's so awful that people are raising questions.
00:07:05.000 But, as that gentleman said before Shepard Smith cut him off, it's not politically correct to raise that question.
00:07:12.580 Now, the authorities are saying it doesn't seem as though it was arson.
00:07:15.080 It doesn't seem as though it was terror.
00:07:16.480 Okay.
00:07:17.500 I sure would like to know what did cause it.
00:07:19.980 Now, on the bright side, there is a silver lining here.
00:07:22.440 A lot of relics, a lot of artwork was saved from within the cathedral.
00:07:28.880 I mean, there were priceless artifacts in Notre Dame.
00:07:32.080 There's a relic.
00:07:33.480 The crown of thorns that was placed on Christ's head was in Notre Dame.
00:07:39.740 And Father Jean-Marc Fournier, who's the chaplain of the Paris Fire Brigade,
00:07:44.420 he ran into the burning cathedral to save that relic, to save the crown of thorns,
00:07:48.640 and to save the Blessed Sacrament.
00:07:50.900 So to save the Eucharist, the body of Christ.
00:07:54.280 He runs in to save it.
00:07:55.500 There is another relic, a nail from the true cross, the cross on which Christ was crucified.
00:08:01.160 That was saved.
00:08:03.280 Unfortunately, part of the crown of thorns, a piece of it, was stored in the spire.
00:08:08.220 That is believed to have been destroyed when that spire burned down.
00:08:12.380 And although the facade remains apparently structurally intact,
00:08:17.160 the roof completely burned down.
00:08:20.000 The frame of that roof, which dates back to the 12th century.
00:08:28.140 800-year-old roof, over 800 years old, destroyed.
00:08:33.060 This oak that dates back upwards of 1,000 years, destroyed.
00:08:38.360 And what does Macron say?
00:08:39.600 The leader of France, he says they will rebuild.
00:08:41.320 I hope so. That would be nice.
00:08:45.280 Other conservatives, other Christians, other people in France have called for it to be rebuilt.
00:08:49.700 That would be nice.
00:08:51.100 It would be wonderful to be able to rebuild Notre Dame.
00:08:54.300 But you can't.
00:08:56.460 You can do something.
00:08:57.580 You can try to restore parts of it.
00:08:59.120 You can try to somehow move forward.
00:09:03.200 But you can't rebuild it, exactly.
00:09:07.080 First of all, any attempt to rebuild it will take decades.
00:09:11.160 The cathedral took over a century to build.
00:09:14.740 And it won't be the same.
00:09:17.980 It just won't be the same.
00:09:20.660 This is the sad thing.
00:09:21.720 We don't want to acknowledge this in our culture,
00:09:24.260 because we think we can replace everything.
00:09:25.820 You break your computer, oh, you can replace that.
00:09:27.560 You drop your iPhone, you get a new iPhone.
00:09:29.220 Oh, we can replace this.
00:09:30.460 We'll rebuild the house.
00:09:31.640 We'll rebuild this.
00:09:32.320 You can't rebuild Notre Dame.
00:09:35.800 Why can't you rebuild Notre Dame?
00:09:37.880 One, we don't really even know how that roof was built.
00:09:41.240 There is so much technical knowledge that has been lost over the centuries.
00:09:45.200 This is hard for us to imagine,
00:09:46.740 because we think we're modern and we know everything,
00:09:49.180 and everyone before us was an idiot.
00:09:52.720 We don't know how to build that roof.
00:09:55.140 We don't know exactly what they did.
00:09:57.040 Technical knowledge can be lost.
00:09:58.760 But moreover, it took so long to build that.
00:10:04.580 It took so much commitment.
00:10:06.120 It took such a strength of the Catholic Church.
00:10:08.400 It took such a unity between the Church and the state to build Notre Dame.
00:10:15.420 Those don't exist anymore.
00:10:17.940 Western Christendom is such a shadow of its former self, you can't rebuild Notre Dame.
00:10:28.640 This burning is in many ways a symbol of the decay of the faith throughout Europe.
00:10:34.940 Hilaire Belloc, the writer, once said a famous line, got him in trouble.
00:10:39.220 It was controversial.
00:10:40.020 He said,
00:10:41.040 The faith is Europe, and Europe is the faith.
00:10:45.020 He's referring to the Catholic faith.
00:10:46.980 Western Christendom.
00:10:47.920 That is what defines Europe.
00:10:52.100 When that cracks, what is Europe?
00:10:54.560 What is left?
00:10:55.960 Then Notre Dame is not a cathedral.
00:10:57.600 It's a museum.
00:10:58.640 To listen to people talk about Notre Dame yesterday,
00:11:02.380 to listen to pundits talk about it,
00:11:04.060 it was as though they were talking about a museum.
00:11:06.940 It was as though they were talking like Ilhan Omar.
00:11:09.940 Art and architecture.
00:11:10.960 Oh, no, it's such a loss of art and architecture.
00:11:14.820 It is.
00:11:15.400 Yes, but the art and architecture mean something.
00:11:18.260 It's not just a museum.
00:11:20.300 It's a cathedral.
00:11:22.620 It is animated by a living faith.
00:11:26.320 And if that faith disappears from Europe,
00:11:28.660 then you just have ruins.
00:11:30.020 You had ruins before it burned to the ground.
00:11:32.600 How can you rebuild that?
00:11:35.320 And if it isn't real, by the way,
00:11:37.000 why would you rebuild it?
00:11:39.820 We'll get to that much harder question in a second.
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00:12:59.900 So to hear people talk about it,
00:13:01.980 from Ilhan Omar to other commentators,
00:13:04.680 it is as though Notre Dame
00:13:07.400 is more a museum than a cathedral.
00:13:11.100 Oh, the Catholic faith has been dying
00:13:13.420 in France and Europe for so long.
00:13:17.340 The cathedral itself is a relic of a bygone age
00:13:20.920 that is no longer animated by a true faith.
00:13:25.220 Actually, all of those relics inside the cathedral,
00:13:27.800 the crown of thorns,
00:13:29.680 the nail from the true cross,
00:13:31.400 so many others.
00:13:32.760 Those are kind of fun little historical oddities.
00:13:36.140 Obviously, it's not the crown of thorns.
00:13:38.960 Obviously, it's not a nail from the true cross.
00:13:41.980 Obviously, it was just gullible, foolish people
00:13:44.500 who thought it was that.
00:13:46.300 But nevertheless, they're historical curiosities.
00:13:49.360 They're part of our history.
00:13:50.920 And therefore, it's a shame if we lose them.
00:13:53.140 We should preserve them
00:13:54.120 because of their history,
00:13:56.660 not because of their intrinsic value,
00:14:00.120 not because of their faith,
00:14:02.840 not because of the faith of Europe.
00:14:05.360 If Notre Dame isn't real,
00:14:09.520 if it isn't about a true faith,
00:14:13.280 if it isn't about Our Lady,
00:14:15.280 Notre Dame means Our Lady,
00:14:16.680 if it isn't about the faith
00:14:18.280 that defined and created Europe,
00:14:20.160 why would we rebuild it?
00:14:23.740 It won't be the original thing.
00:14:25.400 If you want the historical value,
00:14:27.320 that's gone.
00:14:28.740 That's burned down.
00:14:31.180 If it's because you want to look at the facades of Notre Dame,
00:14:34.020 okay, you already have the facades.
00:14:35.240 You can go look at them.
00:14:36.960 If it isn't real,
00:14:38.440 what are you doing?
00:14:39.340 Are you building Disneyland?
00:14:40.260 Well, we don't believe in this,
00:14:43.340 you know,
00:14:43.660 we don't believe in this anymore,
00:14:45.020 but we'll rebuild it
00:14:46.340 because it's a part of France.
00:14:49.180 Is that it?
00:14:49.960 It's just part of,
00:14:51.140 it's part of our national history.
00:14:53.200 But that,
00:14:53.820 the history part is gone.
00:14:55.160 If it's not real,
00:14:56.720 there's no reason to rebuild.
00:14:58.720 And there's no motivation to rebuild.
00:15:01.080 You're creating a husk.
00:15:02.600 You're creating a grotesquerie.
00:15:04.080 You're creating a zombie.
00:15:05.580 Now,
00:15:09.060 if the faith is not dead,
00:15:13.080 and it's never dead,
00:15:14.700 it ebbs and it flows,
00:15:16.120 and there are periods of faithlessness,
00:15:18.060 but it's never dead.
00:15:19.480 If you build it because you believe that it's real,
00:15:23.600 because it's all real,
00:15:26.340 that would be
00:15:27.920 one of the greatest opportunities for the West,
00:15:31.700 certainly in my lifetime,
00:15:32.840 in recent history,
00:15:33.740 to say,
00:15:35.420 we will not allow this to happen.
00:15:37.240 We will not allow
00:15:38.420 not just a building to burn down,
00:15:41.820 but the animating force of our civilization.
00:15:44.620 We will not allow that to burn down.
00:15:46.440 We will rebuild.
00:15:48.020 Because Holy Week isn't just about
00:15:49.740 the crucifixion and death.
00:15:51.760 Holy Week ends happily and joyfully.
00:15:55.320 Holy Week is about the resurrection.
00:15:56.680 If we can say that,
00:16:02.080 then the future of Europe is bright.
00:16:06.100 The future of our civilization is bright.
00:16:07.960 The future of us individually is bright.
00:16:10.160 Can we do that?
00:16:11.540 I'm not so sure.
00:16:12.580 This reminds me of another trend.
00:16:14.120 I just saw this the other day
00:16:15.200 in the San Francisco Gate.
00:16:17.220 It was a headline.
00:16:18.300 The funeral,
00:16:18.960 as we know it,
00:16:19.580 is becoming a relic
00:16:20.940 just in time for a death boom.
00:16:24.220 The funeral is becoming a relic.
00:16:26.080 What is replacing it?
00:16:28.160 Something called
00:16:29.080 Celebration of Life Ceremonies.
00:16:31.820 Here's how the article begins.
00:16:33.620 Dana West knows how to throw
00:16:35.180 a fabulous memorial shindig.
00:16:37.100 She hired L.A. Celebration of Life planner
00:16:39.340 Alison Bossert,
00:16:40.720 yes, those now exist,
00:16:42.640 to create what West dubbed
00:16:44.020 Memorial Palooza
00:16:45.500 for her father Howard
00:16:46.620 in 2016,
00:16:47.900 a few months after his death.
00:16:49.460 At Howard's Remembrance,
00:16:50.480 there was a crowd
00:16:51.140 of more than 300 people
00:16:52.400 at Sony Picture Studios,
00:16:54.220 a hot dog cart
00:16:55.100 from the famed L.A. stand Pink's,
00:16:57.340 gift bags,
00:16:58.300 the hit being a baseball cap,
00:16:59.980 inscribed with
00:17:00.660 Life's Not Fair,
00:17:01.680 Get Over It,
00:17:02.520 a favorite Howardism,
00:17:04.320 a constellation of speakers
00:17:05.640 with Jerry Seinfeld
00:17:06.780 as the closer,
00:17:07.740 Howard was his personal manager,
00:17:09.380 and Bobka,
00:17:10.180 a tribute to a favorite
00:17:11.080 Seinfeld episode.
00:17:12.520 My dad never followed the rules,
00:17:14.060 says West, 56,
00:17:15.580 a Bay Area clinical psychologist,
00:17:17.680 so why would his memorial service?
00:17:19.700 This is the ridiculous consequence
00:17:25.660 of materialism.
00:17:27.000 This is the ridiculous consequence
00:17:29.840 of atheism,
00:17:31.220 the frivolous consequence.
00:17:33.980 And it's so ironic.
00:17:35.500 Is there anything more depressing
00:17:37.000 than a celebration of life ceremony?
00:17:40.160 What are you celebrating?
00:17:42.700 This reminds me of people
00:17:44.780 who, if they're going to go on vacation
00:17:47.400 or if they're going to go on a holiday
00:17:48.820 or something,
00:17:50.020 they insist on being really,
00:17:51.980 really happy.
00:17:53.040 They say,
00:17:53.320 we're going to be happy.
00:17:54.660 Nothing's going to stop us
00:17:55.780 from being happy.
00:17:56.620 Ah, and they're gritting their teeth.
00:17:58.140 And you just think,
00:17:58.880 the lady doth protest too much,
00:18:00.180 me thinks.
00:18:00.660 Isn't that so?
00:18:02.160 She, I don't know.
00:18:03.480 I don't,
00:18:03.840 you don't seem that happy.
00:18:05.980 The idea here is,
00:18:07.280 no one here gets out alive.
00:18:09.180 Life is a tale told by an idiot,
00:18:10.660 full of sound and fury,
00:18:11.520 signifying nothing.
00:18:12.240 We just turn and take a dirt nap,
00:18:14.780 go right down,
00:18:15.740 become worm food.
00:18:17.360 And so,
00:18:18.780 rather than focus on that sadness,
00:18:21.780 that grief that we cannot face,
00:18:23.460 we are no longer socially mature enough
00:18:25.620 to face that.
00:18:26.580 We're going to pretend to have a happy time.
00:18:28.280 We're going to have hot dogs
00:18:28.940 and Jerry Seinfeld.
00:18:30.220 We're going to have gift bags
00:18:31.360 with sardonic expressions on them.
00:18:36.000 Life's not fair.
00:18:37.020 Get over it.
00:18:37.560 We're going to call it a memorial palooza
00:18:41.420 instead of a funeral.
00:18:43.340 Now, what is a funeral?
00:18:44.420 Funeral, typically,
00:18:45.920 a little more sober,
00:18:47.540 a little more somber,
00:18:49.840 a little more serious.
00:18:52.520 There's more gravity to it.
00:18:54.800 Why?
00:18:55.940 Because a life has ended.
00:18:58.180 And that's a sad thing.
00:19:02.140 Christ himself,
00:19:04.000 when he goes to visit Lazarus,
00:19:05.640 who he is about to resurrect from the dead,
00:19:08.760 who he is about to bring back to life,
00:19:10.620 his dead friend,
00:19:12.140 when he goes and sees that his friend is dead,
00:19:14.760 he weeps.
00:19:15.420 Even Christ,
00:19:16.140 even the creator of the universe,
00:19:17.280 weeps.
00:19:19.060 Death is a sad thing.
00:19:20.540 To pretend that it's not
00:19:21.680 is absurd.
00:19:24.280 It's a fantasy.
00:19:25.660 You're trying to convince yourself
00:19:27.020 of something that isn't true
00:19:28.280 because you can't face a harsh reality.
00:19:30.820 This is what we do in our culture
00:19:32.280 all the time now.
00:19:35.060 Inconvenient realities,
00:19:36.080 we brush away.
00:19:36.880 We say they aren't true.
00:19:40.680 I'm a man who wants to be a woman.
00:19:42.600 Well, okay,
00:19:43.240 I'm not really a man.
00:19:44.320 I'm not,
00:19:44.720 I'm just,
00:19:45.160 that's,
00:19:45.360 it isn't true.
00:19:46.660 I'm someone who's pregnant,
00:19:48.060 but I don't want to have a baby.
00:19:49.880 Okay,
00:19:50.140 I'm not really pregnant.
00:19:51.300 It's not really a person.
00:19:52.740 I'm not,
00:19:53.000 I'm going to get rid of that.
00:19:56.000 That's what we do now.
00:19:57.400 We want to avoid inconvenient realities
00:20:02.340 because we don't have the cultural
00:20:04.520 and ultimately religious apparatus
00:20:06.500 to deal with them.
00:20:08.960 A funeral is all,
00:20:10.600 is a celebration of life ceremony
00:20:12.080 in the truest sense
00:20:13.320 because of the hope of the resurrection.
00:20:17.920 Funerals are filled with grief.
00:20:20.120 We are sad to lose our friends.
00:20:22.580 Death is awful.
00:20:24.680 We are so sad.
00:20:27.520 And yet,
00:20:28.600 there is hope.
00:20:29.840 Hope of the resurrection.
00:20:31.220 Hope of heaven.
00:20:32.300 Hope of the life of the world to come.
00:20:34.640 And that gives you
00:20:35.620 something to celebrate.
00:20:37.420 What on earth do you celebrate
00:20:38.740 at a celebration of life?
00:20:40.100 The meaninglessness of our existence?
00:20:42.940 The utter tragedy
00:20:44.300 that we are born
00:20:45.540 and we have passions
00:20:46.480 and we accomplish things
00:20:47.800 and we have loves and joys
00:20:49.620 and really they all turn out for naught.
00:20:51.780 It was all just an illusion.
00:20:53.820 Whoops!
00:20:54.580 And we're going to meet the same fate.
00:20:56.060 Ha ha!
00:20:56.620 Isn't that awful?
00:20:57.260 I'll have another hot dog.
00:20:58.620 It's not a celebration.
00:21:01.140 It's a false celebration.
00:21:02.560 You're pretending it's a celebration.
00:21:03.920 It's actually despair.
00:21:07.180 But we don't have that apparatus anymore.
00:21:09.960 We don't have that
00:21:10.860 moral, cultural, religious sophistication
00:21:14.140 to say,
00:21:15.400 yes, there is grief.
00:21:17.100 And that grief is real.
00:21:19.100 And it is covering
00:21:21.300 a profound joy.
00:21:25.340 Now we just have
00:21:26.360 a frivolous, fake happiness.
00:21:28.340 Ha ha ha.
00:21:29.040 And by the way,
00:21:29.600 if the grief is a little too much,
00:21:30.920 you'll just take a happy pill.
00:21:32.340 You'll just take some
00:21:33.180 antidepressant drug,
00:21:35.260 as do so many Americans.
00:21:37.540 Prescriptions of those drugs skyrocketing.
00:21:39.520 Over-prescriptions skyrocketing.
00:21:41.780 And okay, we'll be happy.
00:21:43.380 We'll be happy, happy.
00:21:44.440 Ha ha.
00:21:45.300 We'll rebuild Notre Dame.
00:21:47.200 I hope we can.
00:21:50.980 But we're not going to
00:21:52.580 be able to rebuild it
00:21:55.140 if we don't understand
00:21:56.160 what animates life.
00:21:57.600 You are not going to be able
00:21:58.440 to celebrate life
00:21:59.320 if you don't understand
00:22:01.080 what life is.
00:22:02.780 What life is geared toward.
00:22:05.720 What life means.
00:22:06.620 What death means.
00:22:08.240 What resurrection means.
00:22:10.680 Profound mysteries to contemplate,
00:22:12.420 especially during Holy Week.
00:22:13.680 Especially when a world historic event
00:22:16.300 has just happened.
00:22:17.220 The burning down
00:22:17.900 of the Cathedral of Notre Dame.
00:22:21.160 Will we look those realities
00:22:23.440 directly in the face?
00:22:24.840 Will we confront them directly?
00:22:26.700 Or will we look away
00:22:27.840 and pretend?
00:22:28.720 Say, no.
00:22:30.120 We'll build another museum.
00:22:32.260 No, we'll celebrate life.
00:22:33.400 Pass me another hot dog.
00:22:34.720 What will we do?
00:22:36.920 We think that we're
00:22:38.280 avoiding something difficult.
00:22:40.540 We think that we're
00:22:41.680 setting ourselves up
00:22:45.820 for happiness
00:22:46.780 when we ignore
00:22:47.520 these profound questions
00:22:48.640 and these profound mysteries.
00:22:50.100 We're not.
00:22:51.740 When you look at death,
00:22:53.520 when you look at
00:22:54.340 what built the cathedral,
00:22:56.180 not just the hands,
00:22:57.360 not just the wood,
00:22:58.500 not just the stones
00:22:59.480 and the glass,
00:23:00.340 but what built it,
00:23:01.300 what built it spiritually,
00:23:03.300 it reminds me of that
00:23:04.760 C.S. Lewis quote.
00:23:06.080 If you look for truth,
00:23:07.020 you might find comfort
00:23:07.840 in the end.
00:23:08.360 But if you look for comfort,
00:23:09.820 you'll find neither
00:23:10.540 truth nor comfort.
00:23:12.720 Only soft soap
00:23:13.560 and wishful thinking
00:23:14.280 to begin
00:23:14.740 and in the end despair.
00:23:17.480 Will we be a culture
00:23:18.760 of ultimate despair
00:23:20.540 or will we have hope?
00:23:23.940 Look to the ashes
00:23:24.940 of Notre Dame.
00:23:27.860 See if you can see resurrection.
00:23:30.240 We have got to say goodbye
00:23:31.280 to Facebook and YouTube.
00:23:32.680 We've got a lot more
00:23:33.180 to get to,
00:23:33.860 particularly on how
00:23:35.200 the facade relates
00:23:36.560 to reality in these
00:23:37.840 2020 presidential primaries
00:23:39.400 and the new primary opponent
00:23:41.780 against Donald Trump.
00:23:43.340 Ooh, I'm sure he's shaking.
00:23:44.660 But first,
00:23:45.040 you've got to go
00:23:45.260 to dailywire.com.
00:23:46.660 It is $10 a month,
00:23:47.760 $100 for an annual membership.
00:23:49.420 You get me,
00:23:49.980 you get the Andrew Klavan show,
00:23:51.120 you get the Ben Shapiro show,
00:23:52.400 you get the Matt Walsh show,
00:23:53.760 you get to ask questions
00:23:54.640 in the mailbag,
00:23:55.660 you get to ask questions
00:23:56.600 backstage,
00:23:57.740 you get all of those things.
00:23:59.440 You get the Leftist Tears Tumblr.
00:24:00.940 That's the most important thing.
00:24:02.020 I wish I had mine on the road,
00:24:03.600 depending on how this talk
00:24:04.700 tonight goes at Texas A&M.
00:24:06.240 We'll have to see
00:24:07.560 if I will survive the drowning
00:24:09.500 without my Leftist Tears Tumblr.
00:24:10.960 Go to dailywire.com.
00:24:11.880 We'll be right back
00:24:12.440 with a lot more.
00:24:23.520 By the way,
00:24:24.680 if you are going to be
00:24:25.540 in Texas tonight,
00:24:26.500 come on out
00:24:27.080 and hang out with us.
00:24:28.200 If you're in College Station
00:24:29.680 tonight,
00:24:30.240 thirsty for some sweet,
00:24:31.220 sweet Leftist Tears,
00:24:32.160 come to Texas A&M University
00:24:33.460 at 7 p.m. Central Time,
00:24:35.720 I will be joined by
00:24:36.820 none other than
00:24:37.480 the Supreme Master
00:24:39.180 of the Galactic Multiverse,
00:24:40.780 Andrew Klavan,
00:24:41.860 to enlighten
00:24:42.520 all of those comrades
00:24:44.140 and snowflakes out here.
00:24:45.660 It's the latest stop
00:24:46.520 on my YAF campus tour.
00:24:47.720 I very much hope
00:24:48.600 to see you there.
00:24:50.360 The questions
00:24:51.600 of facade and reality
00:24:52.900 are not just
00:24:54.120 about the faith of Europe.
00:24:57.200 They're not just
00:24:57.720 about life and death.
00:24:58.620 They do apply
00:24:59.640 even to politics
00:25:01.560 in 2020
00:25:02.200 because right now
00:25:03.780 President Trump
00:25:04.880 has instituted
00:25:06.940 a brilliant idea
00:25:08.360 to,
00:25:09.120 who knows if it'll
00:25:09.820 actually become policy,
00:25:11.120 but it's a great idea
00:25:12.060 to get Democrats
00:25:13.460 on the defensive
00:25:14.600 on a major campaign issue.
00:25:16.620 President Trump
00:25:17.120 has announced plans
00:25:18.200 to ship illegal aliens
00:25:20.320 who enter this country
00:25:21.320 to sanctuary cities.
00:25:23.760 It's so simple.
00:25:25.000 Why didn't we think
00:25:25.580 of it before?
00:25:26.880 Democrats should be
00:25:28.440 thrilled with this plan,
00:25:29.460 right?
00:25:29.660 They love illegal aliens.
00:25:32.140 They love sanctuary cities.
00:25:33.640 They say,
00:25:34.020 come, please,
00:25:34.840 give us your poor,
00:25:35.960 your huddled masses.
00:25:37.400 Come here to our cities.
00:25:38.840 We want you, right?
00:25:40.040 Not so much.
00:25:40.840 Here's Cory Booker
00:25:41.780 speaking out of
00:25:43.000 both sides of his mouth.
00:25:44.540 Do you think
00:25:44.900 this is an empty threat
00:25:45.820 by the president, though,
00:25:46.620 to talk about busing
00:25:47.660 people from the border
00:25:49.020 into these sanctuary cities?
00:25:50.340 He likes to create
00:25:51.020 friction sometimes
00:25:51.960 to jumpstart, he says,
00:25:53.240 a Congress that's not active.
00:25:54.620 You say friction.
00:25:55.440 I say he's trying
00:25:56.060 to pit Americans
00:25:56.720 against each other
00:25:57.400 and make us less safe
00:25:58.220 because what you're
00:25:59.360 seeing now...
00:25:59.820 So you take
00:26:00.200 the threat seriously?
00:26:01.280 I take this.
00:26:03.000 He is injecting fear
00:26:04.440 into our country.
00:26:06.280 And so if he was
00:26:07.160 looking to solve a problem,
00:26:08.260 he wouldn't be doing
00:26:08.840 things to divide
00:26:09.500 this country against itself.
00:26:11.980 Beware of anybody
00:26:13.680 that's trying to tell you
00:26:14.760 to be afraid
00:26:15.420 in the strongest country
00:26:16.540 in the world
00:26:16.940 as opposed to showing
00:26:17.640 our strength
00:26:18.100 and our courage
00:26:18.660 by pulling people together
00:26:20.060 to find common sense
00:26:21.340 solutions to solve
00:26:22.660 this problem.
00:26:23.120 So first of all,
00:26:26.060 Cory Booker is telling us
00:26:28.320 never trust anyone
00:26:30.500 who tells you
00:26:31.180 to be afraid.
00:26:32.440 Meanwhile,
00:26:32.980 he's telling us
00:26:33.540 that Donald Trump
00:26:34.180 is making us all unsafe
00:26:35.240 and he's destroying
00:26:36.060 the country
00:26:36.480 and he's dividing
00:26:37.000 the country.
00:26:37.520 Hold on a second here.
00:26:39.680 By the transit of property,
00:26:41.300 I think that means
00:26:41.780 I can't trust
00:26:42.640 Cory Booker.
00:26:43.380 Right.
00:26:44.060 He also, though,
00:26:45.000 says that bringing
00:26:46.240 all of these illegal aliens
00:26:47.320 to sanctuary cities
00:26:48.220 will make us less safe.
00:26:49.160 Why would it make us
00:26:50.180 less safe?
00:26:51.660 I thought illegal aliens
00:26:53.180 never commit any crimes.
00:26:55.600 No, illegal aliens,
00:26:56.680 they're the most
00:26:57.000 law-abiding citizens
00:26:57.960 in the entire world.
00:26:59.980 Because they're not citizens.
00:27:01.520 They're future citizens
00:27:02.400 if Cory Booker gets his way.
00:27:04.100 How could it make us
00:27:04.940 less safe
00:27:05.600 if you're just shipping in
00:27:06.740 all these super safe people?
00:27:08.580 And if you are a city
00:27:10.060 that's offering sanctuary,
00:27:12.320 shouldn't you welcome them?
00:27:13.420 No.
00:27:13.960 What the left wants
00:27:15.160 is the appearance,
00:27:17.340 but not the reality.
00:27:19.160 They want the appearance
00:27:20.180 of opening their arms
00:27:21.940 to illegal aliens,
00:27:22.820 but they don't want
00:27:23.240 the reality of illegal aliens.
00:27:24.920 No, no, no.
00:27:25.460 That would be inconvenient.
00:27:28.080 And that would probably
00:27:28.800 hurt them with their voters
00:27:29.680 as well.
00:27:30.060 Nancy Pelosi saying
00:27:30.980 exactly the same thing.
00:27:32.620 We just ran out
00:27:33.360 a story saying that
00:27:34.620 the White House
00:27:35.440 put pressure on ICE
00:27:37.260 to try to release
00:27:38.280 undocumented migrants
00:27:39.760 into Democratic districts,
00:27:42.760 including yours,
00:27:44.300 as sort of
00:27:44.820 political retribution
00:27:45.960 during the shutdown standoff.
00:27:47.720 Do you comment on that?
00:27:49.660 I don't know
00:27:51.160 anything about it,
00:27:52.020 but again,
00:27:52.460 it's just another
00:27:53.520 notion
00:27:56.020 that is unworthy
00:27:57.500 of the presidency
00:27:58.220 of the United States
00:27:59.340 and disrespectful
00:28:00.200 of the challenges
00:28:00.900 that we face
00:28:01.660 as a country,
00:28:03.260 as a people
00:28:03.800 to address
00:28:04.500 who we are,
00:28:05.180 a nation of immigrants.
00:28:06.920 Right, Nancy.
00:28:07.820 We're a nation
00:28:08.400 of immigrants.
00:28:09.600 So,
00:28:11.000 cities that are
00:28:11.720 offering sanctuary
00:28:12.660 to all of those
00:28:13.400 illegal aliens
00:28:14.120 that you're encouraging
00:28:15.500 to come into the country,
00:28:16.440 that seems like
00:28:18.420 a wonderful idea,
00:28:19.220 doesn't know.
00:28:19.880 What she says
00:28:20.360 is that it's
00:28:20.800 a notion
00:28:21.700 unworthy
00:28:22.520 of the President
00:28:23.580 of the United States.
00:28:25.280 Why on earth
00:28:26.040 is it unworthy?
00:28:26.760 I mean,
00:28:27.100 obviously,
00:28:27.740 most of what she's saying
00:28:28.540 is just total gobbledygook,
00:28:30.600 saying,
00:28:30.980 blah, blah, blah,
00:28:31.720 and this is who we are,
00:28:32.680 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
00:28:33.820 talking out of both sides
00:28:34.700 of her mouth.
00:28:36.200 But she wants
00:28:37.300 the appearance
00:28:37.820 of encouraging
00:28:38.560 all these illegal aliens
00:28:39.700 to come here.
00:28:40.220 She doesn't want
00:28:40.840 to deal with them.
00:28:41.380 And then,
00:28:42.100 the best of all,
00:28:43.220 forget Booker,
00:28:43.780 forget Pelosi,
00:28:45.100 I will never forget
00:28:46.080 where I was
00:28:46.640 and what I was doing
00:28:47.380 the moment that
00:28:48.360 Cher became
00:28:49.800 a Republican.
00:28:50.680 She tweeted this
00:28:51.280 a couple days ago
00:28:51.980 with random capitalization
00:28:54.000 and strange spelling
00:28:54.860 and just like
00:28:55.720 all of the other
00:28:56.180 Cher tweets.
00:28:57.240 Quote,
00:28:57.800 I understand
00:28:58.380 helping struggling
00:28:59.320 immigrants,
00:29:00.240 but my city,
00:29:01.340 Los Angeles,
00:29:02.240 isn't taking care
00:29:03.240 of its own.
00:29:04.180 What about
00:29:04.520 the 50,000 plus
00:29:05.800 American citizens
00:29:06.760 who live on the streets?
00:29:09.600 What about
00:29:10.340 the people
00:29:10.780 who live below
00:29:11.460 the poverty line
00:29:12.260 and are hungry?
00:29:13.660 If my state
00:29:14.340 can't take care
00:29:14.980 of its own,
00:29:15.740 many are vets,
00:29:16.800 how can it
00:29:17.400 take care of more?
00:29:19.420 Did President Trump
00:29:20.400 write that tweet for her?
00:29:22.720 Great point, Cher.
00:29:23.740 You're absolutely right.
00:29:24.860 So then why
00:29:25.560 does your side
00:29:26.960 of the aisle
00:29:27.380 encourage people
00:29:28.140 to pour across
00:29:28.780 the country illegally?
00:29:31.000 This idea
00:29:31.700 of President Trump,
00:29:32.400 I don't know
00:29:32.660 if he's actually
00:29:33.080 going to do it.
00:29:33.520 I hope he does.
00:29:34.680 So far,
00:29:35.240 we're seeing policy
00:29:35.920 by tweet,
00:29:36.720 so you never know
00:29:37.420 if that's actually
00:29:37.860 going to be implemented.
00:29:38.780 This is a brilliant idea
00:29:39.860 and it's so
00:29:40.500 simple.
00:29:41.980 This is actually
00:29:42.700 the road
00:29:43.500 to victory in 2020.
00:29:45.440 At every turn,
00:29:47.160 you have to make
00:29:48.320 the left deal
00:29:49.660 not just in the
00:29:50.460 appearance of the thing,
00:29:51.740 but with the reality
00:29:53.240 of the thing.
00:29:54.460 We say this all the time.
00:29:56.300 Left-wingers like
00:29:57.040 the appearance,
00:29:57.580 they don't like
00:29:57.900 the reality.
00:29:58.820 They like
00:29:59.340 decaf coffee.
00:30:01.060 They like
00:30:01.840 vegan bacon.
00:30:03.940 They like
00:30:05.880 all of those things.
00:30:08.760 They want
00:30:09.300 the niceties,
00:30:10.820 the facade.
00:30:11.500 They don't want
00:30:11.940 the essence.
00:30:12.900 We have got
00:30:13.660 to make Democrats
00:30:14.480 deal with the essence
00:30:15.540 of their terrible
00:30:16.420 policies.
00:30:18.000 It's a brilliant idea.
00:30:20.420 Will the left
00:30:21.140 deal with consequences?
00:30:22.160 We'll see.
00:30:22.600 One of those is
00:30:23.240 the left has been
00:30:23.780 calling for
00:30:24.440 Donald Trump's
00:30:25.240 tax returns now
00:30:26.200 for years.
00:30:27.220 Why?
00:30:27.720 I don't know.
00:30:28.300 Who cares what is
00:30:29.340 in the tax returns?
00:30:31.040 So this is now
00:30:31.940 coming back to
00:30:32.540 bite the Democrats.
00:30:33.400 Bernie Sanders,
00:30:34.080 who's been running
00:30:34.500 for president
00:30:34.940 nonstop since 2015,
00:30:36.660 has only released
00:30:37.580 a one-page
00:30:39.340 or two-page
00:30:39.980 summary of one
00:30:40.820 year of his taxes.
00:30:42.940 So now,
00:30:43.780 finally,
00:30:44.080 he's got to
00:30:44.400 release his taxes.
00:30:45.300 And we found out
00:30:45.920 why he didn't
00:30:46.480 want to do it
00:30:47.020 before.
00:30:47.480 Because it turns out
00:30:48.340 that Bernie Sanders,
00:30:49.780 who is constantly
00:30:50.860 saying that
00:30:51.960 millionaires aren't
00:30:53.100 paying enough,
00:30:53.720 they're not giving
00:30:54.240 their fair share,
00:30:55.040 they're not helping
00:30:55.640 people out,
00:30:57.580 Bernie Sanders,
00:30:58.340 who's really generous
00:30:59.400 when it comes to
00:31:00.000 your money.
00:31:00.760 Bernie Sanders,
00:31:01.400 who knows how to
00:31:01.880 spend your money
00:31:02.480 like no other,
00:31:03.560 turns out he barely
00:31:04.560 gives anything to
00:31:05.220 charity.
00:31:06.820 He has only once
00:31:08.260 barely given more
00:31:09.080 than 4% of his
00:31:09.980 income to charity,
00:31:11.060 twice he's given
00:31:11.680 a little more
00:31:12.100 than 3%,
00:31:12.900 twice he's given
00:31:13.760 about 2.5%,
00:31:14.860 and five times
00:31:16.000 he's given less
00:31:17.000 than 2% of his
00:31:18.020 income to charity.
00:31:19.240 He's so generous
00:31:20.400 when it comes to
00:31:21.800 other people's money.
00:31:23.480 He wants the
00:31:24.060 appearance of being
00:31:25.240 this generous,
00:31:26.240 charitable person.
00:31:28.020 Everything will be
00:31:28.740 free, we're going
00:31:29.320 to give everything
00:31:29.760 away for free.
00:31:30.380 He doesn't want
00:31:30.680 the reality of
00:31:31.440 forking over
00:31:32.340 his own money.
00:31:33.640 No, no, no,
00:31:34.200 he's going to
00:31:34.500 fork over your
00:31:35.080 money.
00:31:37.160 Now, this is a
00:31:38.120 good line,
00:31:38.820 we'll be able to
00:31:39.260 hit him with it.
00:31:39.700 I don't think it's
00:31:40.160 going to really
00:31:40.600 affect his standing
00:31:41.840 in the Democrat
00:31:42.560 primaries.
00:31:43.480 And by the way,
00:31:44.260 he is currently
00:31:44.820 at the top of the
00:31:45.460 heap.
00:31:47.000 I still don't think
00:31:47.900 he's going to go
00:31:48.360 all the way,
00:31:49.320 but he is now
00:31:50.160 running a different
00:31:51.120 campaign than he
00:31:51.800 was running before.
00:31:53.040 Bernie Sanders is
00:31:53.840 now running to win.
00:31:55.000 He's not running
00:31:55.680 an ideological,
00:31:57.240 pure campaign.
00:31:57.980 He's not running
00:31:59.100 a campaign to
00:31:59.940 send a message to
00:32:00.820 change the
00:32:01.220 Democrat Party.
00:32:02.400 Bernie Sanders is
00:32:03.080 now running to win.
00:32:03.800 How do we know
00:32:04.220 that?
00:32:04.420 Because he went
00:32:04.800 on Fox News.
00:32:06.120 He went out to
00:32:06.760 reach a lot of
00:32:08.060 those voters who
00:32:09.120 used to like
00:32:09.900 Bernie, then they
00:32:10.680 liked Trump, maybe
00:32:11.480 now they'll like
00:32:11.940 Bernie again.
00:32:12.740 Not the latte
00:32:13.580 sipping liberal
00:32:14.460 Los Angeles people,
00:32:16.360 but former
00:32:17.920 Democrats who have
00:32:18.660 now gone over to
00:32:19.340 Republicans that he
00:32:20.020 wants to win back.
00:32:20.980 He goes and he
00:32:22.000 does this town hall
00:32:23.360 and President
00:32:25.120 Trump was unhappy
00:32:25.900 about this.
00:32:26.600 The whole affair
00:32:27.260 went relatively
00:32:28.540 well and it
00:32:29.840 especially went
00:32:30.720 well for one
00:32:32.040 of Bernie Sanders
00:32:32.840 key policies,
00:32:36.100 Medicare for
00:32:36.840 all.
00:32:37.220 Look at how
00:32:37.580 they respond to
00:32:38.620 Bernie's proposal
00:32:39.320 of Medicare for
00:32:40.420 all.
00:32:40.760 I want to ask
00:32:43.780 the audience a
00:32:44.340 question, if you
00:32:45.120 could raise your
00:32:45.600 hand here, a
00:32:46.560 show of hands of
00:32:47.180 how many people get
00:32:48.120 their insurance from
00:32:49.920 work, private
00:32:50.920 insurance right now.
00:32:52.120 How many get it
00:32:52.800 from private
00:32:53.440 insurance?
00:32:54.560 Okay, now of
00:32:55.420 those, how many
00:32:56.240 are willing to
00:32:56.800 transition to what
00:32:58.480 the senator says,
00:32:59.520 a government-run
00:33:00.260 system?
00:33:03.780 That's a lot of
00:33:04.700 people.
00:33:05.160 Now, this isn't
00:33:05.860 exactly scientific.
00:33:07.020 We don't know who
00:33:07.580 stacked that event.
00:33:08.880 We don't know if
00:33:09.520 it was all just
00:33:10.060 Bernie fans who
00:33:10.800 came out to watch
00:33:11.580 it.
00:33:12.280 The Bernie fans are
00:33:12.960 pretty intense and
00:33:13.700 they do often show
00:33:14.680 up for him, so I
00:33:15.400 don't know, it
00:33:15.640 could be that.
00:33:17.680 Regardless, Medicare
00:33:18.560 for all is another
00:33:19.320 one of these examples
00:33:20.140 where when you say
00:33:21.580 to people, hey, do
00:33:22.620 you want Medicare
00:33:23.040 for all?
00:33:23.960 It polls very well.
00:33:25.140 People really like
00:33:25.840 the idea.
00:33:26.860 When you explain to
00:33:27.880 them that it costs
00:33:28.560 money, when you
00:33:29.800 explain to them that
00:33:30.800 they'll have to pay,
00:33:31.720 they'll probably lose
00:33:32.440 their doctor, they'll
00:33:33.240 do all of these
00:33:33.780 things, then all of a
00:33:35.300 sudden people hate it.
00:33:38.120 Then all of a sudden
00:33:38.960 people don't like it
00:33:39.920 so much.
00:33:40.240 Now, that is the
00:33:43.380 interjection of reality
00:33:45.360 into that debate.
00:33:46.980 We cannot let them get
00:33:48.160 away with this.
00:33:48.640 Just as President
00:33:49.480 Trump's idea to drop
00:33:51.300 off illegal aliens in
00:33:52.340 sanctuary cities is
00:33:53.160 politically brilliant,
00:33:54.260 the term Medicare for
00:33:55.640 all has proved
00:33:57.180 politically quite
00:33:58.080 brilliant.
00:33:58.860 I thought the
00:33:59.320 downside was it
00:34:00.280 seems so decayed,
00:34:02.400 it makes you feel
00:34:03.840 like I'm a strapping
00:34:04.940 20-year-old and yet
00:34:06.180 I'm going to get this
00:34:06.680 program that's meant
00:34:07.440 for 70-year-olds.
00:34:08.900 I don't want Medicare,
00:34:10.420 I want to be a young
00:34:10.980 strapping guy.
00:34:11.980 Nevertheless, it
00:34:12.680 polls very well because
00:34:14.020 the Medicare program
00:34:14.820 polls well.
00:34:15.520 It's also dishonest.
00:34:16.600 It is not Medicare for
00:34:17.960 all.
00:34:18.580 Medicare is government
00:34:20.160 funded health care.
00:34:22.260 But it's not
00:34:22.660 government run health
00:34:23.540 care.
00:34:24.280 It's not single payer
00:34:25.140 health care.
00:34:28.160 Medicare for all is
00:34:29.400 socialist health care.
00:34:30.840 Medicare for all is
00:34:31.540 government run health
00:34:32.720 care that you have to
00:34:33.820 fund.
00:34:34.360 Good luck coming up
00:34:35.080 with that money.
00:34:38.160 Now, Bernie Sanders is
00:34:39.400 going to have a lot of
00:34:40.320 success running.
00:34:41.160 This is why every
00:34:41.920 Democrat is running on
00:34:43.280 Medicare for all.
00:34:44.300 So what we have to
00:34:44.940 constantly do is say,
00:34:46.140 look at the cost.
00:34:47.660 Look at which doctor
00:34:48.820 you're going to lose.
00:34:49.640 Did you like Obamacare?
00:34:50.700 Obamacare is nothing
00:34:51.620 compared to Medicare for
00:34:52.660 all.
00:34:54.060 Look at this.
00:34:55.300 Look at how it will
00:34:55.840 affect this part of the
00:34:56.920 economy.
00:34:57.320 Look, it will be a
00:34:57.780 takeover of a sixth of
00:34:58.780 the U.S. economy.
00:35:00.020 It will take away your
00:35:01.060 ability to control life
00:35:02.220 and death decisions.
00:35:03.480 It will look like some
00:35:05.020 of these awful cases
00:35:06.000 we've seen in the U.K.
00:35:07.720 where parents are not
00:35:08.980 allowed to save their
00:35:09.700 baby.
00:35:10.780 The hospital says,
00:35:12.160 we own your baby.
00:35:13.300 The government says,
00:35:14.080 that baby is ours.
00:35:14.860 You don't have any say
00:35:15.900 over it.
00:35:16.520 That's how we're going
00:35:17.220 to argue it.
00:35:18.180 This is true on other
00:35:18.800 issues, too.
00:35:19.300 This is true on guns.
00:35:20.500 Kamala Harris just came
00:35:21.980 out.
00:35:22.600 She said, I'm a gun
00:35:23.300 owner.
00:35:24.160 Guns for me, but not
00:35:25.260 for thee.
00:35:26.260 Still defends gun
00:35:27.760 confiscation policies.
00:35:28.840 I don't know how you see
00:35:30.580 gun policy or how that
00:35:32.300 views have evolved.
00:35:34.800 I am a gun owner, and I
00:35:38.520 own a gun for probably the
00:35:40.360 reason that a lot of
00:35:41.440 people do, for personal
00:35:42.780 safety.
00:35:43.920 I was a career
00:35:44.580 prosecutor.
00:35:47.500 And in terms of gun
00:35:48.580 policy, though, I think
00:35:49.400 that for too long and
00:35:51.120 still today, we are being
00:35:52.560 offered a false choice,
00:35:53.600 which suggests you're
00:35:54.300 either in favor of the
00:35:55.100 Second Amendment or you
00:35:55.840 want to take everyone's
00:35:56.520 guns away.
00:35:58.580 It's a false choice, and
00:36:00.140 it is, I believe, a false
00:36:02.040 choice that is born out of
00:36:03.080 a lack of courage from
00:36:05.080 leaders who must recognize
00:36:07.600 and agree that there are
00:36:09.040 some practical solutions to
00:36:10.520 what is a clear problem in
00:36:12.040 our country.
00:36:13.320 And part of the practical
00:36:14.160 solution is to agree that
00:36:15.620 we need smart gun safety
00:36:16.860 laws, which include
00:36:18.160 universal background checks,
00:36:19.760 which include a renewal of
00:36:21.260 the assault weapons ban.
00:36:22.400 Period.
00:36:23.920 It's a false choice.
00:36:25.260 It's a false choice.
00:36:26.020 Just look, I'm going to
00:36:26.780 keep my gun and then I'm
00:36:27.740 going to take away
00:36:28.220 everyone else's guns.
00:36:30.700 It's a false choice.
00:36:32.280 Everyone's going to get
00:36:32.960 everything.
00:36:33.520 We're going to be
00:36:33.860 everything to everybody.
00:36:34.900 Don't worry.
00:36:35.440 Everything's going to be
00:36:36.040 great.
00:36:37.140 No, you don't get the
00:36:38.520 appearance of defending
00:36:40.540 our civil liberties in the
00:36:41.580 Second Amendment.
00:36:42.620 Meanwhile, you're taking
00:36:43.700 away our guns.
00:36:45.080 Listen to what she says.
00:36:46.000 I have a gun, yeah, but
00:36:47.440 we're going to take away
00:36:48.240 assault weapons.
00:36:49.940 What's an assault weapon?
00:36:51.720 Talk about appearance
00:36:52.880 versus reality.
00:36:54.440 They classify assault
00:36:56.120 weapons based strictly
00:36:58.080 on the appearance of
00:36:59.300 the gun, and they
00:37:00.440 create a false impression
00:37:01.660 that this gun is some
00:37:02.780 fully automatic machine
00:37:04.260 gun.
00:37:04.900 When it's not, you pull
00:37:06.020 the trigger once and one
00:37:07.120 bullet comes out.
00:37:09.020 We have to get rid of
00:37:10.080 assault weapons.
00:37:11.180 Assault weapons are one
00:37:12.360 of the most popular guns
00:37:13.220 in America.
00:37:13.720 The AR-15 is one of the
00:37:15.340 most popular guns in
00:37:16.480 America for a reason.
00:37:18.460 It's a good gun.
00:37:19.260 It's cheap.
00:37:20.680 Effective.
00:37:21.120 No, no.
00:37:23.700 Guns for me, but not
00:37:24.860 for thee.
00:37:25.380 We have to point to the
00:37:26.120 reality.
00:37:26.660 We'll say, okay, if
00:37:27.560 Kamala Harris's policies
00:37:29.420 go into effect, then one
00:37:31.320 of the most popular guns
00:37:32.300 in America is gone.
00:37:34.260 Presumably, it's going to
00:37:35.000 be confiscated from you.
00:37:36.280 She said, we can't have
00:37:37.360 these AR-15s walking
00:37:39.360 around on the streets.
00:37:40.340 First of all, I don't
00:37:40.940 know if you've ever known
00:37:42.100 this.
00:37:42.300 I don't know if you've
00:37:42.620 ever seen a gun.
00:37:43.700 Guns don't sprout legs
00:37:44.780 and start walking around
00:37:45.780 on the street.
00:37:46.460 They don't randomly shoot
00:37:47.520 people either.
00:37:48.500 Actually, the way that
00:37:49.420 guns move around and
00:37:50.320 shoot people is that
00:37:51.460 individuals buy them and
00:37:53.640 have them and scheme and
00:37:55.520 plan and then shoot
00:37:56.380 people with them.
00:37:57.180 Criminals do that.
00:37:58.920 The guns don't do them
00:37:59.740 themselves.
00:38:01.080 So she says, look, we're
00:38:02.100 going to take away one of
00:38:05.080 the most popular guns in
00:38:05.980 America, but I support the
00:38:07.180 Second Amendment.
00:38:08.120 No.
00:38:09.000 No, you don't.
00:38:10.240 And you know what else we've
00:38:11.140 got to point out?
00:38:12.360 Even if she took away all of
00:38:13.640 those guns, it would not
00:38:15.140 reduce gun homicides by any
00:38:18.580 statistically significant
00:38:19.580 number.
00:38:20.160 Very, very, very few people
00:38:21.520 each year are killed by AR-15s
00:38:23.720 or assault weapons or
00:38:25.500 rifles of any kind for that
00:38:26.680 matter.
00:38:28.840 Don't let them get away with
00:38:30.640 this false appearance.
00:38:31.420 And then we could not finish
00:38:34.220 a discussion of 2020 without
00:38:36.120 the biggest news.
00:38:38.700 The race is totally being
00:38:42.040 shaken up.
00:38:42.700 President Trump has a
00:38:45.580 Republican primary
00:38:47.140 challenger.
00:38:48.380 Oh my gosh, who's it going
00:38:49.380 to be?
00:38:49.520 Is it Ted Cruz?
00:38:50.740 Is it Marco Rubio?
00:38:52.180 No, it's Bill Weld.
00:38:54.720 Bill Weld, who I guess was
00:38:56.920 governor of some state like
00:38:59.440 30 years ago or something.
00:39:01.280 And he's kind of a Democrat.
00:39:02.820 Here is Bill Weld's big
00:39:05.240 campaign announcement.
00:39:09.020 Massachusetts, 1990.
00:39:10.920 A state near bankruptcy.
00:39:15.140 Corrupt, democratic machine.
00:39:18.140 They called it Taxachusetts.
00:39:20.800 One party rule.
00:39:23.140 No Republican governor for 20
00:39:25.300 years.
00:39:27.000 One man had the courage to
00:39:28.480 stand up and fight.
00:39:30.360 A crime fighter appointed U.S.
00:39:32.300 attorney by Ronald Reagan.
00:39:34.980 Bill Weld ran for governor on
00:39:37.240 his record.
00:39:38.240 Top Boston city officials retire.
00:39:40.320 They claim accidents.
00:39:41.420 U.S.
00:39:41.720 attorney Bill Weld
00:39:42.540 investigates.
00:39:43.540 The claims fraudulent.
00:39:45.260 Weld prosecutes.
00:39:46.400 Gets fraud convictions.
00:39:47.740 Jail.
00:39:48.460 Millions saved in taxes.
00:39:50.200 Now Bill Weld runs for governor.
00:39:52.040 His platform, what it's always
00:39:53.600 been.
00:39:54.260 Guts.
00:39:55.140 Integrity.
00:39:56.220 Independence.
00:39:57.460 They said it couldn't be done.
00:40:00.000 No Republican could win.
00:40:02.420 Bill Weld beat the odds.
00:40:04.700 Historic victory.
00:40:06.520 Bill Weld cut taxes 21 times.
00:40:09.460 He balanced the budget.
00:40:11.140 Reformed welfare.
00:40:14.420 Oh, it's so cringy.
00:40:16.680 Obviously, I don't think President
00:40:18.060 Trump is shaking in his Oval
00:40:20.520 Office at the fear of Bill Weld
00:40:23.320 running in the GOP primary.
00:40:25.180 This campaign announcement is
00:40:27.500 terrible for a great many reasons.
00:40:30.000 In its form and its function,
00:40:32.280 it just reminds people that Bill
00:40:33.920 Weld is a has-been.
00:40:35.360 It just reminds people that this
00:40:36.680 guy hasn't done anything in like
00:40:38.140 30 years.
00:40:38.860 That he's from an older era.
00:40:40.400 That he's not connected to
00:40:42.500 modern and relevant politics.
00:40:45.040 Not just in the way that they're
00:40:46.440 talking about his career.
00:40:47.480 He was appointed by Ronald Reagan.
00:40:48.820 How old is he?
00:40:50.460 He was governor in like 1990 or
00:40:53.640 something.
00:40:54.940 Okay?
00:40:55.260 Not just that.
00:40:57.340 Even in the form of the
00:40:59.440 commercial.
00:40:59.960 It just feels like a commercial
00:41:01.620 from 2002.
00:41:03.860 Feels like a commercial before
00:41:05.480 the internet really existed.
00:41:07.940 It just feels so dated.
00:41:10.540 Because he's a dated candidate.
00:41:12.160 But I bring it up not just to
00:41:13.420 make fun of Bill Weld, but to
00:41:15.040 point out that even his platform,
00:41:18.020 even his ideological moorings,
00:41:20.780 are dated.
00:41:22.060 They're dated.
00:41:22.760 And we're not going to win this
00:41:24.420 way anymore.
00:41:24.980 What is, what this entire
00:41:26.340 campaign announcement could be
00:41:28.320 boiled down to three words.
00:41:30.880 I cut taxes.
00:41:33.180 Hi, I'm Bill Weld.
00:41:34.240 I cut taxes.
00:41:36.220 Yeah, my entire political career,
00:41:38.460 basically I cut taxes.
00:41:40.480 Isn't that great?
00:41:41.560 I cut taxes.
00:41:42.240 Yeah, sure.
00:41:42.660 I like low taxes as much as the
00:41:44.720 next guy.
00:41:45.500 I certainly enjoy low taxes.
00:41:47.320 Don't get me wrong.
00:41:49.380 Politics is a lot more than
00:41:50.680 cutting taxes.
00:41:52.380 Conservative thought is a lot more
00:41:53.840 than cutting taxes.
00:41:57.360 Imagine thinking that you can
00:41:59.980 stir men's souls by saying,
00:42:01.660 I cut taxes not just 17 times,
00:42:04.200 but 21 times.
00:42:05.940 And if you elect me, I'll cut taxes
00:42:07.760 a 22nd time.
00:42:09.180 I'm Bill Weld.
00:42:09.900 I cut taxes.
00:42:12.400 Imagine, is that going to stir men's
00:42:16.080 souls?
00:42:17.360 Or are images of the burning
00:42:19.300 Cathedral of Notre Dame?
00:42:20.320 What moves you more?
00:42:24.340 Are you moved by saving $400 on your taxes
00:42:27.820 in 2022?
00:42:30.740 Or are you moved by more than
00:42:33.740 economic matters?
00:42:35.460 Winston Churchill said,
00:42:36.840 when great forces are on the move in the world,
00:42:38.720 we know that we're spirits, not animals.
00:42:41.560 The destiny of man is not measured
00:42:43.520 by material computations.
00:42:45.460 It's not just about the taxes.
00:42:47.980 It's not just even about the politics.
00:42:49.980 It's about the culture.
00:42:51.560 It's about our traditions.
00:42:53.620 It's about what makes a nation a nation.
00:42:55.900 What binds us to our neighbors?
00:42:57.740 What binds us to our communities?
00:42:59.540 What binds us to our history?
00:43:01.620 What binds us to our God?
00:43:03.120 Those questions will dominate.
00:43:09.500 Moral discourse will dominate the 2020 election.
00:43:14.340 We're not talking about reforming welfare
00:43:16.920 or some wonky program or cutting taxes.
00:43:20.300 We're talking about fundamental questions.
00:43:22.860 What is a nation?
00:43:23.980 What is sovereignty?
00:43:26.840 Who are illegal aliens?
00:43:28.700 What is open borders?
00:43:30.000 Who are my countrymen?
00:43:31.240 What is my country?
00:43:32.220 What is my country based on?
00:43:34.800 Why do our national monuments matter?
00:43:37.500 Why does the cathedral at Notre Dame matter?
00:43:39.520 Because it has expensive artwork inside it?
00:43:42.800 Or because it is a place
00:43:44.640 in which we worship our creator,
00:43:47.320 the God who made us
00:43:48.280 and who loves us?
00:43:53.300 What is our civilization?
00:43:55.300 The faith is Europe.
00:43:56.160 Europe is the faith.
00:43:59.080 That was true.
00:44:00.120 Is that true?
00:44:00.720 Is that true anymore?
00:44:02.580 What is the West?
00:44:03.600 What is the United States?
00:44:05.700 It's a lot more than cutting taxes.
00:44:07.240 All right.
00:44:07.660 Come on out to Texas A&M tonight.
00:44:09.200 We're going to have a great show with Drew.
00:44:11.100 We're going to have a great discussion.
00:44:12.500 Hopefully no one tries to throw chemicals on me
00:44:14.540 or anything like that this time.
00:44:16.360 In the meantime,
00:44:17.300 I'm Michael Knowles.
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