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00:00:00.000 Venezuela descends into further chaos as people starve and tanks crush protesters.

00:00:05.620 But socialists in the United States, like Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,

00:00:10.920 refuse to admit that Venezuela is their utopia, the logical conclusion of their awful ideas.

00:00:16.880 We will examine how socialism ruined that country and others.

00:00:20.600 Then, Democrat senators try and fail to grill Attorney General William Barr over the Mueller report.

00:00:26.840 We'll check in on that.

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00:02:29.620 Other things that are abnormal and unnatural are happening in Venezuela right now.

00:02:36.620 This clip just came out yesterday, rightly horrified the world.

00:02:41.280 A tank, a government tank, pulled out onto the street and crushed starving protesters in Venezuela.

00:02:48.740 A military truck rammed into a group of protesters in Caracas.

00:02:54.700 Just one of several violent clashes between security forces and thousands of anti-government protesters.

00:03:02.480 This has been going on for weeks and weeks and months and months now.

00:03:06.520 Why is it going on?

00:03:08.200 Because of socialism.

00:03:09.560 This is socialism.

00:03:11.440 The tanks running over the protesters is socialism.

00:03:15.780 This is the logical conclusion of socialism.

00:03:19.900 It was ever thus.

00:03:22.000 This is the conclusion of what Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders are offering.

00:03:28.880 Not tomorrow.

00:03:30.500 Not the next week.

00:03:31.980 Not the week after that.

00:03:33.240 Luckily, America has a strong culture and economic and political heritage of freedom.

00:03:38.400 So it's not as though Bernie Sanders would get elected and then the next day you'd have tanks running over people in the street.

00:03:43.040 But given enough time and given enough success at implementing the agenda that they are proposing,

00:03:50.520 the tanks crushing the people in the streets is the logical conclusion.

00:03:56.440 What does socialism look like?

00:03:58.600 Looks like violent clashes in the streets in Venezuela.

00:04:02.040 Looks like the opposition leader down there, Juan Guaido, calling on the military to overturn the government there, the Maduro regime.

00:04:09.820 It looks like CNN now being taken off of the airwaves by the government,

00:04:15.760 which is proof positive that every storm cloud has a silver lining.

00:04:20.020 Not everything is bad down there, but most things are very bad.

00:04:23.240 Doctors have injured, or rather are treating 50 injured people right now just from those clashes yesterday.

00:04:30.460 That includes a woman who was shot in the abdomen.

00:04:34.460 There's gunfire, obviously the tanks.

00:04:36.480 Amnesty International is reporting systemic oppression throughout that country and for a long time now,

00:04:43.740 extrajudicial executions.

00:04:45.620 So the Maduro regime will go in in the middle of the night,

00:04:48.280 will drag people out who they think are a threat to their political stability or to their political power.

00:04:54.140 They will take them out and they will kill them without any law, without any trial, without any due process.

00:04:59.460 Just kill them.

00:05:00.180 One-third of Venezuelans are estimated, according to Amnesty International, to eat one meal per day.

00:05:08.920 Many Venezuelans go multiple days without eating.

00:05:12.560 In fact, there were interviews among the Miami Herald and other newspapers that talked to some of these Venezuelans,

00:05:21.120 and they will say they will just wait with hundreds and hundreds of people in bread lines at their churches

00:05:25.860 to hope to get one meal every couple days.

00:05:29.080 That bread lines, that's socialism for you.

00:05:31.080 Inflation, as a result of the government not cutting spending, of the government printing money,

00:05:36.480 of the government over-promising and under-delivering.

00:05:38.880 Inflation in Venezuela, do you know how high it's gone?

00:05:41.240 Right now, I think inflation, well, in the 1980s, I think inflation in Venezuela hit about 80%.

00:05:47.720 That's very high.

00:05:48.860 80% inflation is a big deal.

00:05:50.940 Those were the good old days compared to now.

00:05:54.720 Right now, inflation is about 1.3 million percent in Venezuela.

00:06:00.660 The currency is worth nothing.

00:06:02.760 In January, inflation rose up to about 2.7 million percent.

00:06:09.060 That's the conclusion of socialism.

00:06:12.140 How did this happen?

00:06:13.800 People forget now, because we have short historical memories,

00:06:17.080 we forget that Venezuela was a very rich country.

00:06:19.760 For most of the 20th century, Venezuela was the richest country in South America.

00:06:26.280 Now, it had periods of economic difficulties.

00:06:29.280 In the 1980s, there was a huge spike in inflation.

00:06:32.020 Not huge compared to today, but still it was significant.

00:06:34.880 Why did those happen?

00:06:35.820 Well, one, Venezuela is largely dependent on oil prices,

00:06:40.100 so fluctuations in oil prices do affect the country.

00:06:44.040 Also because when all that oil money started pouring in,

00:06:47.360 politicians and the government decided they could start buying off votes through socialism.

00:06:53.900 Now, at a certain point in the 1990s, you saw GDP declining.

00:06:58.660 You saw inflation increasing.

00:07:01.860 Then, when the governments would decide to cut back on socialism,

00:07:05.480 start liberalizing the economies, start allowing more free markets in,

00:07:09.620 all of a sudden, you saw GDP start to increase again.

00:07:12.500 You saw inflation start to curb again.

00:07:14.380 You saw wages even rise.

00:07:17.060 Then, Hugo Chavez took over.

00:07:18.980 The socialist politician, Hugo Chavez, campaigned and took power officially in 1999.

00:07:25.900 I'm actually old enough to remember when this happened,

00:07:28.700 and I remember all the left-wingers loved Hugo Chavez.

00:07:32.600 It was on the American media all the time.

00:07:34.140 I've been a newshound since I was like two years old,

00:07:37.000 and I remember Hugo Chavez was the big hope of all the leftists.

00:07:41.260 It was always on the mainstream media.

00:07:43.500 That guy, Sean Penn, the famous actor, loved Hugo Chavez.

00:07:47.380 Go down there.

00:07:48.340 All of these people, so happy.

00:07:50.280 Socialism has come to Venezuela.

00:07:53.240 Hugo Chavez died in 2013

00:07:54.780 as the economy collapsed,

00:07:58.640 as finally that poison ran its course.

00:08:01.700 Now you see the results.

00:08:02.880 This is the result of Hugo Chavez.

00:08:04.680 This is the result of socialism.

00:08:06.860 Why?

00:08:07.500 How did it happen?

00:08:08.580 So Chavez, when he came to power in 1999,

00:08:11.840 relied on these massive oil revenues that he was getting

00:08:14.820 to increase public spending and buy votes.

00:08:18.000 So he would take all of this money,

00:08:19.680 and then he would buy foreign food.

00:08:22.980 It's not as though he was cultivating new industries

00:08:26.040 or cultivating the economy.

00:08:28.140 He would just use it to buy foreign food

00:08:29.740 and then subsidize that food for the people.

00:08:32.320 So he's basically buying off the people with cheap food.

00:08:35.180 Then, as a result of this plan,

00:08:37.820 the foreign debt of Venezuela quadrupled

00:08:41.080 just under Chavez's reign.

00:08:43.500 So debt is mounting.

00:08:45.160 The economy is beginning to falter.

00:08:47.020 What does Chavez do?

00:08:47.900 Does he cut back public spending?

00:08:49.260 No, of course not.

00:08:50.160 Does he curb socialism?

00:08:51.540 No, of course not.

00:08:52.700 What he does is he seizes even more political power.

00:08:56.040 So at this point, the only way, like any Ponzi scheme,

00:08:59.100 the only way to keep this going is to take more and more stuff.

00:09:03.060 So Hugo Chavez decided to nationalize companies and farms and factories.

00:09:10.300 Now, nationalize is a really fancy leftist term that means steal.

00:09:14.140 So his regime stole whole companies, whole farms from people, whole factories.

00:09:20.260 As a result of this, by the way, ExxonMobil and CanocoPhillips left the country of Venezuela.

00:09:26.420 So now you've got international capital is pulling out

00:09:30.160 because they can't be in this unstable region

00:09:32.320 where this thug government is just going to steal your property.

00:09:35.600 So they start pulling out.

00:09:36.660 The economy continues to falter.

00:09:38.640 So what does Chavez do?

00:09:40.460 Does he pull back on socialism?

00:09:41.940 Of course not.

00:09:43.140 He seizes even more political power.

00:09:45.240 In 2012, not long before he died,

00:09:47.600 he outlawed private gun ownership all throughout Venezuela.

00:09:51.480 Let me tell you something.

00:09:52.600 If those people who are being crushed by tanks right now

00:09:55.040 had private gun ownership,

00:09:57.640 they would not be being crushed by tanks

00:09:59.580 because they would be shooting the military and the cops and the thugs

00:10:03.860 who are oppressing them and who are attacking them

00:10:07.020 and who are killing them extrajudicially.

00:10:09.280 Now, this brings us to 2013.

00:10:14.520 Chavez dies.

00:10:15.900 Maduro, his hand-picked successor, takes power.

00:10:19.420 At this point, I actually almost feel bad for Maduro

00:10:22.300 because the poison of socialism had run its course.

00:10:24.960 There was very little that he could do.

00:10:27.260 The bill for all that free stuff that Hugo Chavez was giving out

00:10:31.100 finally came due.

00:10:32.420 And at the same time, a drop in oil prices meant

00:10:35.040 that the government couldn't even keep up the pretense of solvency.

00:10:40.320 The jig was up.

00:10:42.360 So, the one thing Maduro could have done

00:10:44.880 is he could have gradually cut spending.

00:10:46.960 He could have shown that he was gradually willing to respect property rights.

00:10:50.880 He was eager for foreign investment.

00:10:52.940 He was going to deal responsibly with his government.

00:10:56.120 And then, maybe more money would have come in.

00:10:58.780 Is that what he did?

00:10:59.580 No, of course not.

00:11:00.680 Because he's a socialist.

00:11:02.020 So, instead what he did is he just started printing money.

00:11:05.620 Like, I love when politicians think they can just print more money.

00:11:09.740 They, this has never worked in all of history.

00:11:12.800 It's not even really a short-term solution

00:11:14.840 because the minute you start doing it,

00:11:18.400 everybody begins to distrust your government,

00:11:21.240 distrust your economy,

00:11:22.060 and very, very quickly, you get hyperinflation,

00:11:25.060 which is exactly what happened.

00:11:26.540 The hyperinflation triggered this revolution

00:11:28.440 because the money was worthless,

00:11:29.860 and that revolution triggered the violent crackdown

00:11:32.540 that you see from the government,

00:11:34.820 that you see from tanks rolling over citizens in Venezuela.

00:11:39.580 This is not the first time this has happened

00:11:41.280 in a socialist government.

00:11:42.800 This always happens in socialist governments.

00:11:45.200 This always happened in the Soviet Union.

00:11:47.860 It happened, obviously, in North Korea.

00:11:49.180 It happened in other Latin American socialist governments.

00:11:52.380 Happened in China.

00:11:53.400 Happened in all of these places.

00:11:55.140 This is socialism.

00:11:56.840 And here's the scary number.

00:11:58.440 According to Gallup polling,

00:11:59.740 the majority of young Americans support socialism.

00:12:04.600 They look favorably on socialism.

00:12:07.200 And according to that same poll,

00:12:09.820 only 45% of young Americans look favorably on capitalism,

00:12:14.020 which is to say, private property,

00:12:16.640 which is to say, the free exchange of goods and services.

00:12:20.980 Young America is far more socialist than capitalist.

00:12:25.960 The good news is, a lot of polls show

00:12:27.640 that young Americans can't define socialism.

00:12:30.420 That's a good thing.

00:12:31.880 But why do they identify as socialist?

00:12:34.000 Why do they look upon it favorably?

00:12:35.360 It's because politicians like Bernie Sanders

00:12:37.660 and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

00:12:39.680 are openly peddling this poisonous ideology.

00:12:43.720 And what they say is,

00:12:45.240 our idea of socialism,

00:12:47.480 it's like Iceland.

00:12:49.320 It's like Denmark.

00:12:51.560 It's like Sweden.

00:12:52.940 It's not like Venezuela.

00:12:54.560 No, no, no.

00:12:55.060 Don't look at Venezuela.

00:12:56.840 Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

00:12:58.840 No, no.

00:12:59.400 Look over here at the Nordic countries.

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00:14:21.760 Bernie,

00:14:22.660 AOC,

00:14:23.440 they want to tell you

00:14:24.340 that the socialism

00:14:26.740 that they're pushing

00:14:27.500 is like the Nordic countries.

00:14:29.440 It's not like Venezuela.

00:14:31.500 Not a lie.

00:14:32.400 The Nordic countries

00:14:33.400 have relatively free economies.

00:14:37.220 They have no minimum wage.

00:14:38.960 None of those countries

00:14:39.700 has a minimum wage.

00:14:41.020 Sweden has a universal school choice.

00:14:44.060 They have a far more free market

00:14:46.620 approach to education

00:14:47.460 than even the United States has.

00:14:49.620 Iceland has a freer economy

00:14:52.120 than the United States.

00:14:52.980 According to the Heritage Foundation

00:14:54.440 Index for Economic Freedom.

00:14:58.640 If AOC wants to be more like Iceland,

00:15:00.980 then she ought to support

00:15:02.040 freeing up the economy,

00:15:04.020 not increased socialism.

00:15:06.060 The Danish prime minister,

00:15:07.180 former Danish prime minister,

00:15:08.120 Lars Rasmussen,

00:15:09.180 puts the point very clearly.

00:15:10.880 He says,

00:15:11.240 quote,

00:15:11.820 Denmark is far

00:15:13.260 from a socialist planned economy.

00:15:15.560 Denmark is a market economy.

00:15:16.980 But what AOC and Bernie Sanders

00:15:20.240 are pushing

00:15:20.700 is a socialist planned economy.

00:15:24.500 And you know,

00:15:24.920 it's so disingenuous

00:15:26.360 if you hear Bernie Sanders

00:15:27.700 or AOC talk about this.

00:15:29.340 Bernie Sanders

00:15:29.920 didn't have his honeymoon

00:15:30.940 in Denmark.

00:15:33.220 He didn't go on his honeymoon

00:15:34.540 to Iceland.

00:15:36.240 He went on his honeymoon

00:15:37.540 in 1988,

00:15:39.080 the day after he got married,

00:15:41.080 to the Soviet Union.

00:15:43.100 In fact,

00:15:43.860 I'm sorry to say,

00:15:44.900 we have video of this

00:15:45.920 of Bernie Sanders shirtless,

00:15:48.160 drinking vodka,

00:15:49.340 singing commie songs

00:15:50.580 with the Ruskies

00:15:51.980 in the Soviet Union

00:15:53.160 in 1988.

00:15:53.800 We have ridden of highways

00:15:56.800 I saw the bees

00:16:00.300 That in this dry ways

00:16:03.800 I saw the lonely

00:16:06.300 That on this highway

00:16:09.660 This land was made

00:16:12.780 for you and me

00:16:14.240 I'm going to rewrite it.

00:16:16.720 I'm going to do a version of it

00:16:17.760 which is

00:16:18.040 This land is my land

00:16:19.280 This land is my land

00:16:20.580 This land's not your land

00:16:21.920 This land is my land

00:16:22.960 That's going to be the song

00:16:24.720 that I sing

00:16:25.240 at the southern border.

00:16:26.120 But that'll be for a later show.

00:16:27.220 Don't worry about that now.

00:16:28.440 Bernie Sanders

00:16:29.080 was so enthralled

00:16:31.380 with the Soviet Union,

00:16:32.560 with Soviet communism,

00:16:33.800 the most repressive regime

00:16:35.120 on earth,

00:16:36.240 one of the most repressive regimes

00:16:38.320 in the history of the world,

00:16:40.080 that he took his honeymoon there.

00:16:41.660 Didn't want to go to Scandinavia.

00:16:44.800 Wanted to go there.

00:16:46.420 Worse even than Venezuela.

00:16:48.560 And,

00:16:49.000 just to remind you

00:16:49.980 that he's not

00:16:50.660 pushing policies

00:16:52.000 that would bring us to Iceland.

00:16:53.440 He's pushing the policies

00:16:54.460 of Latin America.

00:16:55.800 Around that same time,

00:16:56.940 three years earlier,

00:16:57.760 1985,

00:16:58.760 Bernie Sanders

00:16:59.400 was defending

00:17:00.460 socialist bread lines

00:17:02.420 in Latin America.

00:17:03.980 You know,

00:17:04.840 it's funny,

00:17:05.340 sometimes American journalists

00:17:06.480 talk about how bad

00:17:07.260 a country is

00:17:07.800 because people are

00:17:08.400 lining up for food.

00:17:09.460 That's a good thing.

00:17:11.880 In other countries,

00:17:12.700 people don't line up for food.

00:17:13.920 The rich get the food

00:17:14.760 and the poor starve to death.

00:17:17.320 Bread lines are a good thing.

00:17:19.840 Bread lines are a good thing.

00:17:22.600 In a lot of countries,

00:17:24.180 the rich get food

00:17:25.540 and the poor starve to death.

00:17:28.520 Right.

00:17:29.040 In socialist countries,

00:17:30.000 that's what happens.

00:17:31.040 That's what's happening

00:17:31.680 in Venezuela right now.

00:17:32.880 And if they don't starve to death,

00:17:33.860 they get run over by tanks.

00:17:35.400 That doesn't happen

00:17:36.340 in the United States.

00:17:37.840 Nobody starves to death

00:17:38.880 in the United States.

00:17:39.720 The biggest problem

00:17:40.740 afflicting the poor

00:17:42.160 in the United States

00:17:43.100 is obesity.

00:17:44.520 The problem among the poor

00:17:45.880 in the United States

00:17:46.600 is that they're eating too much.

00:17:49.160 That's not what happens

00:17:50.200 in socialist countries.

00:17:51.380 They starve to death

00:17:52.240 while the rich

00:17:53.060 and the well-connected

00:17:54.020 and the cronies

00:17:54.700 all benefit.

00:17:57.440 Make no mistake,

00:17:58.460 the policies

00:17:59.180 that they are pushing

00:18:00.280 are,

00:18:02.000 they're not just

00:18:02.860 leading us to the road,

00:18:04.620 on the road to Venezuela.

00:18:05.600 They are even radical

00:18:07.720 by that standard.

00:18:09.040 Just the Green New Deal.

00:18:11.140 Just the Green New Deal.

00:18:12.160 One policy

00:18:12.840 that they're pushing,

00:18:14.020 co-sponsors,

00:18:14.940 AOC wrote it herself,

00:18:17.260 is

00:18:17.740 a full government takeover

00:18:21.080 of huge swaths

00:18:23.260 of the economy.

00:18:25.240 All of the healthcare system,

00:18:26.980 radical

00:18:27.500 socialist healthcare regime.

00:18:29.460 Then an outlawing

00:18:31.840 of about 90%

00:18:33.180 of the American

00:18:33.840 energy industry.

00:18:35.720 Then a federal

00:18:36.780 job guarantee program.

00:18:38.440 You get rid of parts

00:18:39.180 of the welfare state

00:18:40.080 and now you just have

00:18:41.120 to work for the government.

00:18:43.460 Then an outlawing

00:18:45.020 of planes,

00:18:45.540 trains,

00:18:45.780 and automobiles

00:18:46.520 so you don't get

00:18:47.840 to keep your car.

00:18:49.020 Then an outlawing

00:18:50.700 of your home.

00:18:53.280 An outlawing

00:18:54.400 of all of the current

00:18:56.200 buildings

00:18:56.980 in the United States.

00:18:58.180 Because

00:18:59.860 according to the

00:19:00.900 Green New Deal,

00:19:01.680 which Bernie

00:19:02.220 co-sponsors,

00:19:03.620 which AOC wrote,

00:19:05.980 we need to knock down

00:19:07.080 every building

00:19:07.580 in the country

00:19:08.160 and rebuild it

00:19:09.400 within 10 years

00:19:10.160 as we eliminate

00:19:11.940 90% of the

00:19:12.720 American energy industry.

00:19:14.960 You can't even

00:19:16.280 keep your own home.

00:19:18.040 That's the kind

00:19:18.680 of takeover

00:19:19.220 that we're talking about.

00:19:20.940 That's what

00:19:21.620 they're pushing.

00:19:22.560 That's not Denmark.

00:19:24.020 That's not Iceland.

00:19:25.680 That's not Sweden.

00:19:26.820 That is Venezuela

00:19:29.320 that's worse

00:19:29.960 than Venezuela.

00:19:31.740 America's a richer country.

00:19:33.500 America's a bigger country.

00:19:34.620 America has better institutions.

00:19:36.260 America has a longer

00:19:37.240 tradition

00:19:38.700 of

00:19:39.380 liberty.

00:19:42.680 Okay.

00:19:43.920 Venezuela was a rich country.

00:19:46.040 Venezuela was a prosperous country.

00:19:47.620 It was the most prosperous country

00:19:48.600 in the region.

00:19:50.280 And eventually,

00:19:51.820 steadily,

00:19:53.200 gradually,

00:19:53.660 socialism

00:19:54.700 ruined it.

00:19:57.700 Now,

00:19:58.360 there are tanks

00:19:59.440 crushing

00:20:00.600 citizens

00:20:01.600 in

00:20:02.580 the street.

00:20:06.580 Why does the left

00:20:07.560 get away with this?

00:20:08.880 How do we let the left

00:20:09.940 get away with this?

00:20:12.680 Part of why

00:20:13.800 we've got to call out

00:20:15.240 Bernie Sanders

00:20:15.880 and AOC here

00:20:16.840 is that the American left

00:20:18.520 never apologized

00:20:19.760 for its support

00:20:20.520 of the Soviet Union.

00:20:21.380 You had reporters

00:20:23.780 in the New York Times

00:20:24.720 and other newspapers

00:20:25.800 in the early days

00:20:28.000 of the Soviet Union

00:20:28.900 saying,

00:20:29.400 I've seen the future

00:20:30.460 and it works.

00:20:32.780 You had reporters

00:20:34.100 in those early days

00:20:35.160 denying

00:20:35.740 the Holodomor,

00:20:37.780 denying famines

00:20:38.940 caused by Stalin,

00:20:40.300 denying

00:20:40.640 all of the atrocities

00:20:42.000 being committed

00:20:42.500 by Stalin,

00:20:43.180 lying about it

00:20:43.860 because they were

00:20:44.580 so committed

00:20:45.220 to the communist cause.

00:20:46.940 In fact,

00:20:47.280 the conservative movement

00:20:48.140 as we know it

00:20:49.080 was founded

00:20:49.960 because of those

00:20:50.900 early reports

00:20:51.620 about the Soviet Union.

00:20:54.280 When you had

00:20:54.980 American newspapers

00:20:55.900 publishing about

00:20:56.880 the Soviet Union,

00:20:57.920 I've seen the future

00:20:58.800 and it works,

00:20:59.800 you then had

00:21:00.300 William F. Buckley Jr.

00:21:01.940 start the flagship

00:21:03.440 conservative newspaper

00:21:04.520 National Review,

00:21:05.540 or magazine rather,

00:21:07.060 with,

00:21:07.760 in the first issue,

00:21:09.100 with the thesis,

00:21:10.860 a conservative

00:21:11.440 is one

00:21:11.920 who stands

00:21:12.760 athwart history

00:21:13.580 yelling stop.

00:21:15.360 The communists

00:21:16.140 see the future

00:21:17.180 and it works

00:21:17.860 and the conservatives

00:21:18.780 are there saying,

00:21:19.500 stop.

00:21:20.520 It doesn't work.

00:21:21.520 It's not going to work.

00:21:22.520 It's evil

00:21:23.220 even if it did work.

00:21:25.120 But what does it mean

00:21:25.880 to even work?

00:21:28.920 Let's say that

00:21:29.740 socialism actually

00:21:30.740 did work,

00:21:31.260 which it doesn't.

00:21:32.020 Let's say socialism

00:21:32.840 created a lot

00:21:33.440 of economic prosperity

00:21:34.440 and everybody

00:21:35.360 had a lot of

00:21:35.960 material goods.

00:21:37.360 But it robbed you

00:21:38.700 of all of your liberty.

00:21:41.160 It robbed you

00:21:42.000 of all of your

00:21:43.280 institutions,

00:21:44.040 your civic institutions.

00:21:46.180 It exerted

00:21:46.980 so much power

00:21:47.920 of the federal government

00:21:48.860 over you

00:21:49.440 that your way of life,

00:21:51.240 your culture,

00:21:51.820 your traditions

00:21:52.340 were totally crushed.

00:21:53.880 Who cares how

00:21:54.760 materially prosperous

00:21:55.840 you are?

00:21:57.660 Even if socialism

00:21:58.660 worked,

00:21:59.120 it would be evil.

00:22:00.960 But it also

00:22:01.980 doesn't work.

00:22:03.480 It also leads

00:22:04.400 to widespread misery.

00:22:05.880 The American left

00:22:06.560 can't admit that.

00:22:07.280 They never apologized

00:22:07.960 for the Soviet Union.

00:22:09.220 They never apologized

00:22:10.000 for their support

00:22:10.640 of Fidel Castro.

00:22:12.020 Oh, the left

00:22:12.600 loved Fidel Castro.

00:22:13.740 They brought him

00:22:14.540 to the United Nations

00:22:15.420 in New York.

00:22:17.000 Oh, they love,

00:22:17.620 they sometimes wear

00:22:18.460 his face on t-shirts.

00:22:20.460 They wear Che Guevara's

00:22:21.940 face on t-shirts

00:22:23.300 even today.

00:22:23.980 Never apologized

00:22:24.580 for that.

00:22:26.220 These people

00:22:27.000 enslaved an entire

00:22:27.960 country in Cuba.

00:22:29.680 And American liberals

00:22:30.880 wear their faces

00:22:31.600 on shirts

00:22:32.180 like they're

00:22:32.780 Disney characters.

00:22:34.720 They never apologized

00:22:35.860 for their support

00:22:36.520 of Hugo Chavez.

00:22:38.100 Go talk to Sean Penn.

00:22:39.620 Go talk to all

00:22:40.140 the Hollywood leftists

00:22:41.280 who loved

00:22:42.100 Hugo Chavez.

00:22:43.360 Go talk to all

00:22:43.940 the activists

00:22:44.460 who loved

00:22:45.040 Hugo Chavez.

00:22:46.700 No apology.

00:22:48.460 They can't

00:22:49.420 ever admit

00:22:50.280 the logical

00:22:53.140 conclusion

00:22:53.620 of their ideas.

00:22:54.760 It's happened

00:22:55.280 time and time

00:22:55.960 again.

00:22:56.920 Soviet Union,

00:22:57.820 China,

00:23:00.600 Cuba,

00:23:02.040 all around

00:23:02.660 Latin America,

00:23:03.720 now Venezuela.

00:23:05.440 They can't,

00:23:05.920 no, no,

00:23:06.340 that was wrong

00:23:07.140 socialism.

00:23:07.980 That was fake

00:23:08.660 socialism.

00:23:09.680 Next time it will

00:23:10.600 work.

00:23:11.380 Just give it

00:23:11.880 one more try.

00:23:12.960 No more tries.

00:23:13.940 Certainly not

00:23:14.400 in the United States.

00:23:16.420 Speaking of

00:23:17.760 incoherent leftism

00:23:19.540 and a good way

00:23:20.520 to smack it down,

00:23:21.700 we can switch

00:23:22.180 gears over to

00:23:23.260 Attorney General

00:23:24.620 William Barr

00:23:25.620 testifying on

00:23:26.480 the Hill today

00:23:27.120 before the Senate

00:23:28.000 Judiciary Committee.

00:23:29.620 He's being called

00:23:30.620 to testify

00:23:31.220 over the Mueller

00:23:32.040 report.

00:23:33.500 Now the Democrats

00:23:34.420 are calling on

00:23:35.180 Attorney General Barr

00:23:36.020 to resign.

00:23:38.260 What's the big

00:23:39.020 takeaway here?

00:23:40.420 The big takeaway

00:23:41.440 is since the

00:23:42.800 Mueller report

00:23:43.360 was released,

00:23:45.320 Democrats have

00:23:46.500 nothing.

00:23:47.400 They've got

00:23:48.040 nothing.

00:23:48.440 They bet the

00:23:49.180 farm on this

00:23:50.100 Russia collusion

00:23:50.900 thing.

00:23:52.200 Two years,

00:23:53.260 more than two

00:23:53.740 years,

00:23:54.040 they bet everything

00:23:54.960 on it.

00:23:56.220 And it didn't

00:23:57.120 happen.

00:23:57.540 It didn't pan out.

00:23:58.520 You had Eric

00:23:59.020 Swalwell,

00:23:59.840 presidential candidate,

00:24:00.780 saying Trump

00:24:01.240 is a traitor.

00:24:02.340 We know that he

00:24:03.100 colluded with the

00:24:03.840 Russians.

00:24:04.240 Didn't happen.

00:24:05.300 And so now

00:24:05.840 what are they

00:24:06.180 doing?

00:24:07.400 They're,

00:24:07.680 they're,

00:24:07.960 they're grasping

00:24:08.820 at straws.

00:24:09.580 Now they want

00:24:09.960 to impeach

00:24:10.480 William Barr

00:24:11.600 for some reason,

00:24:13.220 the new Attorney

00:24:13.760 General,

00:24:14.420 so that I guess

00:24:14.960 we'll get a new

00:24:15.400 Attorney General

00:24:15.980 and then they'll

00:24:16.440 want to impeach

00:24:16.900 him too.

00:24:17.940 The other big

00:24:18.720 takeaway from

00:24:19.360 this hearing

00:24:19.860 today is that

00:24:20.840 it's all

00:24:21.120 theater.

00:24:21.980 It is all

00:24:22.880 theater.

00:24:23.520 This is why

00:24:23.900 I didn't lead

00:24:24.380 with this story.

00:24:25.640 If you tune

00:24:26.340 into CNN

00:24:26.860 right now,

00:24:27.420 this is the

00:24:27.880 biggest story

00:24:28.660 on the top

00:24:29.280 of the page

00:24:30.000 and you've

00:24:30.380 got to pay

00:24:30.700 attention.

00:24:31.320 It doesn't

00:24:31.780 really matter.

00:24:33.120 In terms of

00:24:34.160 the Department

00:24:35.020 of Justice,

00:24:36.040 in terms of

00:24:36.560 the Russia

00:24:37.100 investigation,

00:24:37.960 in terms of

00:24:38.400 the Trump

00:24:38.680 administration,

00:24:39.760 doesn't really

00:24:40.480 matter.

00:24:41.140 What it

00:24:41.460 matters for

00:24:42.880 is to show

00:24:44.080 you the

00:24:44.400 desperation

00:24:44.880 of Democrats

00:24:45.880 in the Senate.

00:24:47.800 It's a story

00:24:48.620 that people

00:24:48.960 are talking

00:24:49.440 about,

00:24:49.840 but it's a

00:24:50.280 story that

00:24:51.260 matters only

00:24:51.960 in so much

00:24:52.560 as it's

00:24:53.840 a bunch

00:24:54.780 of hot air.

00:24:56.640 It's important

00:24:57.400 as political

00:24:57.900 theater.

00:24:58.980 We have the

00:24:59.700 Mueller report.

00:25:00.900 You can read

00:25:01.400 the report.

00:25:01.800 I've read

00:25:02.700 the relevant

00:25:03.280 sections of

00:25:03.920 it,

00:25:04.080 probably

00:25:04.260 150,

00:25:04.840 200 pages

00:25:05.340 of it.

00:25:06.460 That's enough.

00:25:07.260 That's all

00:25:07.520 you need

00:25:07.780 to read.

00:25:08.300 You can

00:25:08.600 see no

00:25:09.420 collusion,

00:25:10.680 no obstruction.

00:25:13.020 The report

00:25:14.060 left open

00:25:14.600 the question

00:25:15.020 of obstruction.

00:25:17.400 Most legal

00:25:18.620 scholars,

00:25:19.220 and certainly

00:25:19.600 the legal

00:25:20.060 scholars that

00:25:20.500 we talk

00:25:20.880 to,

00:25:21.440 Alan Dershowitz,

00:25:22.660 those kind

00:25:23.040 of people,

00:25:23.760 say even

00:25:24.740 leaving open

00:25:25.300 the question

00:25:25.740 of obstruction

00:25:26.280 was pretty

00:25:27.280 absurd.

00:25:28.100 Even the

00:25:28.460 framework of

00:25:29.060 obstruction

00:25:29.500 that Bob

00:25:30.820 Mueller was

00:25:31.160 working with

00:25:31.620 is pretty

00:25:31.960 absurd.

00:25:33.060 But regardless,

00:25:33.920 it's up to

00:25:34.260 the Department

00:25:34.620 of Justice

00:25:35.060 to determine

00:25:35.900 whether or

00:25:36.300 not obstruction

00:25:36.820 occurred.

00:25:38.020 The Attorney

00:25:38.660 General says

00:25:39.180 it didn't

00:25:39.480 occur.

00:25:40.260 The Deputy

00:25:40.620 Attorney

00:25:40.900 General,

00:25:41.320 Rod Rosenstein,

00:25:42.440 who is

00:25:42.720 certainly no

00:25:43.560 conservative

00:25:44.020 Republican,

00:25:45.200 he said

00:25:45.920 no obstruction

00:25:46.560 occurred.

00:25:48.940 No indictments,

00:25:50.500 no nothing.

00:25:51.860 So now we're

00:25:52.960 arguing over

00:25:53.720 the summaries

00:25:54.480 and the press

00:25:55.640 reports and

00:25:56.400 the phone calls

00:25:57.300 and the leaks

00:25:57.920 and the this.

00:25:58.720 Why are we

00:25:59.180 arguing over

00:25:59.780 any of that?

00:26:00.340 We have

00:26:01.020 the report

00:26:01.480 itself.

00:26:02.200 You can

00:26:02.520 read the

00:26:02.960 report.

00:26:03.680 The report

00:26:04.200 exonerates

00:26:04.880 President Trump.

00:26:05.940 But they

00:26:06.540 just can't

00:26:07.260 let it go

00:26:07.800 because they

00:26:08.860 bet their

00:26:09.300 whole two

00:26:09.620 years on it.

00:26:10.800 So now

00:26:11.140 they're trying

00:26:11.460 to rehash

00:26:11.980 anything around

00:26:12.800 the edges

00:26:13.240 of the report.

00:26:14.680 So the

00:26:15.060 left needs

00:26:15.420 a new

00:26:15.640 boogeyman.

00:26:16.840 Filling

00:26:17.200 that role,

00:26:17.820 we now have

00:26:18.620 Attorney

00:26:19.220 General

00:26:19.540 William Barr.

00:26:20.600 They want

00:26:21.040 him to be

00:26:21.340 impeached

00:26:21.840 and they say

00:26:22.900 he lied to

00:26:23.520 Congress.

00:26:24.000 That's the

00:26:24.320 basis for

00:26:24.820 them calling

00:26:25.180 for his

00:26:25.560 impeachment.

00:26:27.880 Okay,

00:26:28.440 let's take

00:26:28.840 them at

00:26:29.080 their word.

00:26:29.460 They're saying

00:26:29.840 he lied to

00:26:30.540 Congress.

00:26:31.460 What did

00:26:32.060 he lie

00:26:32.460 about?

00:26:33.260 They're saying

00:26:33.860 that the last

00:26:34.360 time he appeared

00:26:34.840 before Congress,

00:26:36.060 he lied when

00:26:37.020 he was asked

00:26:37.740 the question

00:26:38.380 of whether

00:26:39.200 or not

00:26:39.940 Bob Mueller

00:26:41.080 agrees with

00:26:42.460 his conclusions

00:26:43.320 about the

00:26:44.220 Mueller report.

00:26:45.360 And here was

00:26:46.120 William Barr's

00:26:46.980 answer.

00:26:47.260 did Bob

00:26:49.120 Mueller

00:26:49.360 support your

00:26:50.080 conclusion?

00:26:51.040 I don't

00:26:51.320 know whether

00:26:51.660 Bob Mueller

00:26:52.300 supported my

00:26:53.100 conclusions.

00:26:54.800 Okay,

00:26:55.420 he's asked

00:26:56.020 the question

00:26:56.400 does Bob

00:26:56.820 Mueller

00:26:56.960 support your

00:26:57.500 conclusions?

00:26:58.820 What

00:26:59.040 William Barr

00:26:59.480 I think

00:26:59.720 wanted to

00:27:00.120 say is

00:27:00.420 I don't

00:27:00.720 care if

00:27:01.180 Bob

00:27:01.400 Mueller

00:27:01.580 supports

00:27:02.080 my

00:27:02.320 conclusions.

00:27:03.100 Bob

00:27:03.260 Mueller

00:27:03.460 is not

00:27:03.720 the

00:27:03.860 Attorney

00:27:04.100 General

00:27:04.480 and I

00:27:04.940 am.

00:27:05.360 What he

00:27:05.620 says is

00:27:05.900 I don't

00:27:06.160 know if

00:27:06.440 he supports

00:27:06.860 the

00:27:07.020 conclusions.

00:27:08.100 Now

00:27:08.460 the Democrats

00:27:09.520 are saying

00:27:10.060 that was

00:27:10.460 a lie.

00:27:11.540 What is

00:27:11.760 their evidence

00:27:12.180 that that

00:27:12.500 was a lie?

00:27:13.540 A letter

00:27:14.020 from Bob

00:27:14.620 Mueller

00:27:14.880 to

00:27:15.600 William

00:27:16.320 Barr

00:27:16.740 leaked.

00:27:17.800 Coincidentally,

00:27:18.420 by the way,

00:27:18.780 it leaked

00:27:19.220 the night

00:27:19.900 before

00:27:20.360 William

00:27:21.500 Barr

00:27:21.700 testifies

00:27:22.260 before the

00:27:22.740 Senate.

00:27:23.200 What a

00:27:23.540 coincidence.

00:27:24.180 That's so

00:27:24.460 strange.

00:27:25.500 I wonder

00:27:25.760 who could

00:27:26.080 have leaked

00:27:26.400 that letter

00:27:26.960 that was

00:27:27.840 written by

00:27:28.280 the

00:27:28.460 Mueller

00:27:28.640 team.

00:27:31.340 Two people

00:27:32.100 have that

00:27:32.460 letter,

00:27:33.340 Mueller

00:27:33.500 and Barr.

00:27:34.560 I don't

00:27:35.140 think Barr

00:27:35.520 leaked it.

00:27:36.860 So somebody

00:27:37.380 associated with

00:27:38.160 Bob Mueller

00:27:38.640 leaked that

00:27:39.220 letter.

00:27:39.960 Okay,

00:27:40.940 they're saying

00:27:41.500 this is

00:27:41.880 evidence.

00:27:43.020 That

00:27:43.320 William

00:27:43.660 Barr

00:27:43.860 lied

00:27:44.180 to

00:27:44.340 Congress.

00:27:44.820 But what

00:27:45.180 does the

00:27:45.540 letter

00:27:45.720 actually

00:27:46.240 say?

00:27:47.700 Does the

00:27:48.280 letter

00:27:48.460 show that

00:27:49.180 Mueller

00:27:49.600 thinks that

00:27:50.380 Barr's

00:27:51.200 conclusions

00:27:51.600 were wrong

00:27:52.180 or he

00:27:52.420 disagrees

00:27:52.940 or he

00:27:53.280 agrees

00:27:53.660 or that

00:27:54.120 Barr

00:27:54.300 lied

00:27:54.520 to

00:27:54.660 Congress?

00:27:55.580 We'll

00:27:55.960 read the

00:27:56.300 actual

00:27:56.620 letter

00:27:56.900 in a

00:27:57.240 second.

00:27:58.040 But first,

00:27:58.520 we've got to

00:27:58.760 think about

00:27:59.020 Facebook and

00:27:59.540 YouTube.

00:28:00.160 Go over

00:28:00.400 to

00:28:00.520 dailywire.com.

00:28:02.340 Ten bucks

00:28:02.740 a month,

00:28:03.040 one hundred

00:28:03.280 dollars for

00:28:03.740 an annual

00:28:04.040 membership.

00:28:04.600 You get

00:28:04.800 me,

00:28:05.480 you get

00:28:05.740 the Andrew

00:28:06.020 Klavan

00:28:06.280 show,

00:28:06.920 you get

00:28:07.120 the Ben

00:28:07.340 Shapiro

00:28:07.600 show,

00:28:13.020 you get

00:28:13.800 to watch

00:28:14.640 backstage,

00:28:15.580 ask questions

00:28:16.060 backstage,

00:28:16.660 you get

00:28:17.180 the Another

00:28:17.880 Kingdom podcast

00:28:18.500 and you get

00:28:19.400 this,

00:28:21.340 the Leftist

00:28:21.880 Tears

00:28:22.180 Tumblr.

00:28:23.300 We're about

00:28:23.940 to get into

00:28:24.400 some of that

00:28:24.800 Democrat

00:28:25.260 questioning

00:28:25.860 of William

00:28:26.460 Barr.

00:28:27.460 We're about

00:28:28.020 to watch

00:28:28.600 how William

00:28:29.140 Barr has

00:28:29.760 a higher

00:28:30.120 IQ than

00:28:30.680 every Democrat

00:28:31.540 member of

00:28:32.020 this committee

00:28:32.440 combined.

00:28:33.520 And you

00:28:33.960 are going

00:28:34.180 to need

00:28:34.400 the Tumblr

00:28:34.840 or else

00:28:35.420 you are

00:28:35.880 going to

00:28:36.180 drown.

00:28:36.940 Go to

00:28:37.240 dailywire.com.

00:28:38.000 We'll be

00:28:38.140 right back.

00:28:43.020 What does

00:28:49.880 the letter

00:28:50.280 actually say?

00:28:51.940 Democrats

00:28:52.380 think that

00:28:53.020 this letter

00:28:53.500 from

00:28:53.740 Mueller

00:28:53.920 to Barr

00:28:54.380 is evidence

00:28:54.920 that Barr

00:28:55.320 lied to

00:28:55.740 Congress

00:28:56.200 and that

00:28:56.820 Mueller

00:28:57.040 does not

00:28:57.660 agree

00:28:58.060 with

00:28:58.400 Barr's

00:28:58.920 conclusions

00:28:59.800 and that

00:29:00.420 Barr

00:29:00.620 knew that

00:29:01.120 Mueller

00:29:01.280 does not

00:29:01.680 agree

00:29:01.900 with

00:29:02.060 Barr's

00:29:02.300 conclusions.

00:29:03.440 Try to

00:29:04.080 follow that.

00:29:05.260 Here's what

00:29:05.680 the letter

00:29:05.940 actually says.

00:29:08.940 From

00:29:09.460 Special Counsel

00:29:10.900 Bob Mueller.

00:29:11.660 The summary

00:29:12.260 letter the

00:29:12.900 department sent

00:29:13.480 to Congress

00:29:13.940 and released

00:29:14.480 to the

00:29:14.840 public late

00:29:15.380 in the

00:29:15.600 afternoon

00:29:15.980 of March

00:29:16.420 24th

00:29:17.100 did not

00:29:17.540 fully

00:29:17.920 capture

00:29:18.500 concern

00:29:19.420 the

00:29:21.460 context

00:29:23.460 nature

00:29:24.940 and substance

00:29:25.780 of this

00:29:26.500 office's

00:29:27.100 work

00:29:27.440 and

00:29:27.680 conclusions.

00:29:28.740 There is

00:29:29.340 now public

00:29:30.100 confusion

00:29:30.780 about

00:29:31.680 critical

00:29:32.160 aspects

00:29:32.880 of the

00:29:33.620 result

00:29:34.040 of our

00:29:34.600 investigation.

00:29:35.880 This

00:29:36.060 threatens

00:29:36.400 to undermine

00:29:36.900 a central

00:29:37.340 purpose

00:29:37.700 for which

00:29:38.100 the

00:29:38.260 department

00:29:38.560 appointed

00:29:38.940 the

00:29:39.140 special

00:29:39.360 counsel

00:29:39.740 to

00:29:40.220 assure

00:29:40.560 full

00:29:40.900 public

00:29:41.240 confidence

00:29:41.760 in the

00:29:42.420 outcome

00:29:42.880 of the

00:29:43.280 investigations.

00:29:46.340 Again,

00:29:47.160 to begin,

00:29:48.240 who cares

00:29:49.340 what Bob

00:29:49.740 Mueller thinks

00:29:50.360 about the

00:29:51.680 release or

00:29:52.500 the context

00:29:53.280 or whatever?

00:29:54.820 What matters

00:29:55.480 is,

00:29:55.940 is the

00:29:56.520 attorney general

00:29:57.640 accurately

00:29:59.240 relating

00:30:00.100 the report?

00:30:02.460 But who

00:30:03.300 cares what

00:30:03.960 Mueller thinks

00:30:04.460 about the

00:30:04.820 context or

00:30:05.880 how many

00:30:06.200 press conferences

00:30:07.140 Barr

00:30:07.800 should do?

00:30:09.360 Bill Barr

00:30:10.240 does not

00:30:10.640 answer to

00:30:11.140 Bob

00:30:11.360 Mueller.

00:30:12.620 The

00:30:12.980 special

00:30:13.260 counsel

00:30:13.640 is not

00:30:14.240 the

00:30:14.920 attorney

00:30:15.140 general.

00:30:16.060 The

00:30:16.500 attorney

00:30:16.680 general

00:30:16.980 does not

00:30:17.320 report to

00:30:17.700 the

00:30:17.800 special

00:30:18.040 counsel.

00:30:18.460 The

00:30:18.560 special

00:30:18.840 counsel

00:30:19.160 reports

00:30:19.780 to the

00:30:21.160 DOJ,

00:30:21.840 to the

00:30:22.060 attorney

00:30:22.280 general,

00:30:22.760 ultimately.

00:30:24.380 The only

00:30:25.220 question that

00:30:25.860 matters here

00:30:26.340 is the

00:30:26.740 accuracy

00:30:27.380 of the

00:30:28.680 context or

00:30:29.300 the summaries

00:30:29.840 or whatever.

00:30:31.120 Now,

00:30:31.300 the question

00:30:31.700 is ambiguous,

00:30:32.700 right?

00:30:32.900 The letter

00:30:33.260 says that

00:30:34.780 Bill Barr's

00:30:36.400 letter did

00:30:36.900 not fully

00:30:37.440 capture the

00:30:38.220 context,

00:30:40.020 who cares,

00:30:41.860 the nature,

00:30:43.900 maybe that

00:30:44.540 matters,

00:30:45.440 and the

00:30:46.220 substance,

00:30:47.160 definitely,

00:30:48.080 maybe that

00:30:48.700 matters,

00:30:49.520 of the

00:30:49.920 office's

00:30:50.380 work and

00:30:50.780 conclusions.

00:30:52.820 Three

00:30:53.660 things,

00:30:54.620 context,

00:30:55.480 nature,

00:30:56.280 substance.

00:30:58.220 If Bill

00:30:59.700 Barr didn't

00:31:00.360 provide the

00:31:00.860 context that

00:31:01.760 Bob Mueller

00:31:02.160 wanted,

00:31:02.800 doesn't matter.

00:31:04.500 If Bill

00:31:05.660 Barr

00:31:06.000 inaccurately,

00:31:07.440 presented or

00:31:09.360 relayed the

00:31:10.280 nature of

00:31:12.320 the investigation

00:31:13.940 and conclusions,

00:31:15.520 maybe that

00:31:15.980 does matter.

00:31:16.580 What does

00:31:16.940 Mueller mean

00:31:17.760 by nature

00:31:18.400 here?

00:31:19.660 He's talking

00:31:19.900 about the

00:31:20.140 facts or

00:31:21.500 is he talking

00:31:21.980 about some

00:31:22.460 ambiguous term

00:31:23.400 and the

00:31:24.120 substance?

00:31:24.680 This is the

00:31:25.040 one that

00:31:25.280 really might

00:31:25.720 matter.

00:31:26.020 If he is

00:31:26.840 accusing

00:31:27.340 William Barr

00:31:28.300 of misrepresenting

00:31:29.880 the substance

00:31:30.720 of his

00:31:31.580 conclusions,

00:31:32.500 that's a

00:31:33.560 very serious

00:31:34.380 criticism.

00:31:35.240 But did

00:31:38.040 Mueller,

00:31:38.580 is that what

00:31:38.980 Mueller means?

00:31:39.620 Mueller's using

00:31:40.060 pretty ambiguous

00:31:41.080 terminology here.

00:31:42.560 Well,

00:31:43.120 Bill Barr was

00:31:43.600 asked this

00:31:43.960 question today.

00:31:44.880 He gives a

00:31:45.340 very straight

00:31:45.780 answer.

00:31:46.100 I offered

00:31:46.700 Bob Mueller

00:31:48.220 the opportunity

00:31:49.020 to review

00:31:49.680 that letter

00:31:50.200 before it

00:31:50.720 went out

00:31:51.120 and he

00:31:51.380 declined.

00:31:51.940 on Thursday

00:31:58.400 morning,

00:31:59.820 I received,

00:32:01.140 it probably

00:32:01.560 was received

00:32:02.180 at the

00:32:02.460 department

00:32:02.840 Wednesday

00:32:03.460 night or

00:32:04.840 evening,

00:32:05.440 but on

00:32:05.740 Thursday

00:32:06.040 morning,

00:32:06.580 I received

00:32:07.060 a letter

00:32:07.440 from Bob,

00:32:08.100 the letter

00:32:08.420 that's just

00:32:08.860 been put

00:32:09.260 into the

00:32:09.660 record.

00:32:11.500 And I

00:32:12.060 called Bob

00:32:12.720 and said,

00:32:14.680 what's the

00:32:16.200 issue here?

00:32:17.660 And I

00:32:18.520 asked him

00:32:18.880 if he was

00:32:19.280 suggesting that

00:32:20.080 the March

00:32:20.460 24th letter

00:32:21.280 was inaccurate

00:32:21.940 and he

00:32:22.740 said no,

00:32:23.500 but that the

00:32:24.080 press reporting

00:32:24.960 had been inaccurate

00:32:26.140 and that the

00:32:27.800 press was reading

00:32:28.460 too much

00:32:28.960 into it

00:32:29.600 and I

00:32:30.160 asked him

00:32:30.680 specifically

00:32:31.460 what his

00:32:32.080 concern was

00:32:33.080 and he

00:32:34.380 said that

00:32:35.280 his concern

00:32:36.040 focused on

00:32:37.220 his explanation

00:32:38.460 of why

00:32:39.020 he did not

00:32:39.940 reach a

00:32:40.940 conclusion

00:32:41.420 on obstruction

00:32:42.300 and he

00:32:44.520 wanted more

00:32:45.100 put out

00:32:45.720 on that

00:32:46.220 issue.

00:32:47.840 He wanted,

00:32:49.240 he argued

00:32:50.280 for putting

00:32:50.820 out,

00:32:51.280 summaries

00:32:52.140 of each

00:32:54.060 volume,

00:32:55.080 the executive

00:32:55.660 summaries

00:32:56.220 that had

00:32:57.040 been written

00:32:57.380 by his

00:32:58.080 office

00:32:58.620 and if

00:33:01.220 not that,

00:33:01.900 then other

00:33:02.400 material that

00:33:03.240 focused on

00:33:03.980 the issue

00:33:04.480 of why

00:33:05.040 he didn't

00:33:05.600 reach the

00:33:06.580 obstruction

00:33:07.060 question.

00:33:08.620 But he was

00:33:09.100 very clear

00:33:09.620 with me

00:33:09.960 that he

00:33:10.180 was not

00:33:10.600 suggesting

00:33:11.180 that we

00:33:13.180 had

00:33:13.660 misrepresented

00:33:14.660 his report.

00:33:16.500 There it

00:33:17.120 is.

00:33:17.880 Bill Barr

00:33:18.500 gets the

00:33:19.060 letter

00:33:19.360 from Bob

00:33:20.280 Mueller

00:33:20.540 saying

00:33:22.220 that

00:33:22.860 Bill Barr's

00:33:24.540 letter to

00:33:25.940 Congress

00:33:26.380 did not

00:33:26.860 fully capture

00:33:27.680 the concerns

00:33:28.740 about the

00:33:29.180 context and

00:33:30.020 the nature

00:33:30.520 and the

00:33:31.000 substance.

00:33:31.240 It didn't

00:33:31.420 fully capture.

00:33:32.180 And so

00:33:33.560 Bill Barr,

00:33:35.460 Bill and

00:33:36.040 Bob,

00:33:36.820 Billy Bob,

00:33:37.340 Billy Bob

00:33:37.860 Thornton,

00:33:38.960 Bill Barr

00:33:39.640 calls Bob

00:33:40.600 Mueller and

00:33:41.460 says,

00:33:42.820 listen to

00:33:43.580 Barr's very

00:33:44.280 precise language,

00:33:45.720 are you

00:33:46.240 suggesting that

00:33:47.680 my letter to

00:33:48.400 Congress

00:33:48.940 did not

00:33:50.640 accurately

00:33:51.600 portray

00:33:52.920 what was

00:33:55.580 in your

00:33:55.860 report?

00:33:56.520 Are you

00:33:56.860 suggesting

00:33:57.300 that I

00:33:57.620 was

00:33:57.780 inaccurate

00:33:58.360 in how

00:33:59.620 I

00:33:59.940 talked

00:34:00.260 to

00:34:00.420 Congress?

00:34:01.560 And

00:34:01.940 Mueller

00:34:02.240 said,

00:34:02.560 no,

00:34:02.760 no,

00:34:02.920 no,

00:34:03.100 I'm

00:34:03.240 not

00:34:03.400 suggesting

00:34:03.800 you

00:34:04.020 were

00:34:04.240 inaccurate.

00:34:05.920 I'm

00:34:06.580 suggesting

00:34:07.060 that I

00:34:08.520 want you

00:34:08.980 to release

00:34:10.040 more

00:34:10.340 context,

00:34:11.440 more

00:34:11.640 summaries,

00:34:12.680 more

00:34:12.860 executive

00:34:13.440 summaries

00:34:14.020 of the

00:34:14.520 report.

00:34:15.160 Because

00:34:15.520 in the

00:34:15.920 Mueller

00:34:16.080 report,

00:34:17.160 you have

00:34:17.420 about 400

00:34:17.880 pages,

00:34:18.380 380,

00:34:18.940 something like

00:34:19.320 that,

00:34:19.840 and before

00:34:20.680 each volume,

00:34:21.840 two volumes,

00:34:22.480 you have

00:34:23.200 an executive

00:34:23.720 summary.

00:34:25.020 Now,

00:34:25.600 the executive

00:34:26.000 summary was

00:34:26.560 very helpful

00:34:27.100 when that

00:34:27.480 report was

00:34:27.980 released,

00:34:28.360 and I

00:34:28.540 had to

00:34:28.760 go on

00:34:29.100 TV in

00:34:29.700 about 10

00:34:30.320 minutes,

00:34:30.820 and so I

00:34:31.260 had to

00:34:31.460 quickly scan

00:34:32.540 the executive

00:34:33.680 summary.

00:34:35.060 But clearly

00:34:36.120 what Bob

00:34:36.720 Mueller wanted

00:34:37.260 was for

00:34:37.760 William Barr

00:34:38.340 to release

00:34:39.000 that executive

00:34:39.600 summary right

00:34:40.280 away.

00:34:41.760 And William

00:34:42.180 Barr says,

00:34:42.680 no,

00:34:42.820 I'm not

00:34:43.160 going to

00:34:43.480 release

00:34:43.760 multiple

00:34:44.500 summaries,

00:34:46.180 especially

00:34:46.860 staggered

00:34:47.900 over time,

00:34:49.220 that are

00:34:50.080 going to

00:34:50.840 confuse

00:34:51.660 people.

00:34:52.180 Now,

00:34:52.480 it's not

00:34:53.220 Bob

00:34:54.500 Mueller's

00:34:54.920 call on

00:34:55.980 what summaries

00:34:56.800 and how many

00:34:57.380 press conferences

00:34:58.180 and how many

00:34:58.680 press interviews

00:34:59.340 he wants

00:35:00.160 to give.

00:35:01.400 It seems

00:35:01.940 from the

00:35:02.300 leaking of

00:35:02.860 Bob

00:35:03.220 Mueller's

00:35:03.600 letter that

00:35:04.500 he or

00:35:04.900 somebody on

00:35:05.420 his team

00:35:05.860 is pretty

00:35:06.500 familiar with

00:35:07.080 talking to

00:35:07.540 the press.

00:35:08.400 But what

00:35:09.080 William Barr

00:35:09.520 said is,

00:35:09.940 no,

00:35:10.080 we're not

00:35:10.340 going to

00:35:10.540 do that.

00:35:11.440 And here's

00:35:11.840 his reasoning

00:35:12.240 why.

00:35:12.540 I told

00:35:13.560 Bob that

00:35:14.360 I was

00:35:14.840 not

00:35:15.000 interested

00:35:15.360 in putting

00:35:15.740 out

00:35:16.000 summaries

00:35:16.520 and I

00:35:17.920 wasn't

00:35:18.160 going to

00:35:18.360 put out

00:35:18.640 the report

00:35:19.140 piecemeal.

00:35:20.520 I wanted

00:35:21.220 to get

00:35:21.520 the whole

00:35:21.940 report

00:35:22.400 out.

00:35:23.600 And I

00:35:24.320 thought

00:35:24.560 summaries

00:35:24.980 by very

00:35:25.560 definition,

00:35:26.280 regardless

00:35:26.500 of who

00:35:26.920 prepared

00:35:27.340 them,

00:35:27.600 would be

00:35:27.880 under-inclusive

00:35:28.720 and we'd

00:35:29.960 have sort

00:35:30.360 of a series

00:35:30.860 of different

00:35:31.420 debates

00:35:31.940 and public

00:35:32.540 discord

00:35:33.960 over each

00:35:34.960 tranche

00:35:35.620 of information

00:35:36.640 that went

00:35:37.080 out.

00:35:37.340 Pretty

00:35:42.320 sound

00:35:42.640 reasoning.

00:35:43.260 And by

00:35:43.480 the way,

00:35:43.780 it turns

00:35:44.120 out that

00:35:44.480 Barr was

00:35:44.880 right.

00:35:46.180 Barr's

00:35:46.500 argument

00:35:46.820 is,

00:35:47.460 if you

00:35:47.720 release

00:35:48.100 these

00:35:48.320 things

00:35:48.580 piecemeal

00:35:49.240 and different

00:35:49.660 summaries,

00:35:50.120 it's going

00:35:50.340 to be

00:35:50.560 endlessly

00:35:50.960 ripped

00:35:51.340 apart,

00:35:51.820 argued

00:35:52.140 about,

00:35:52.900 there's

00:35:53.240 going to

00:35:53.420 be a

00:35:53.600 lot of

00:35:53.840 controversy,

00:35:54.920 better

00:35:55.140 to just

00:35:55.900 give

00:35:56.560 Congress

00:35:57.160 the quick

00:35:58.200 view of

00:35:58.580 things and

00:35:59.360 then release

00:35:59.820 the report

00:36:00.300 when we

00:36:00.660 can.

00:36:01.380 And by

00:36:01.620 the way,

00:36:01.860 the only

00:36:02.100 reason

00:36:02.460 Barr

00:36:02.660 had to

00:36:03.060 send

00:36:03.400 that

00:36:03.580 letter

00:36:03.840 to

00:36:04.060 Congress

00:36:04.380 in the

00:36:04.640 first

00:36:04.820 place,

00:36:05.480 which

00:36:05.580 obviously

00:36:06.180 then came

00:36:07.220 out to

00:36:07.460 the

00:36:07.560 public,

00:36:08.440 was

00:36:08.820 because

00:36:09.360 William

00:36:09.900 Barr

00:36:10.160 asked

00:36:10.780 Bob

00:36:11.100 Mueller

00:36:11.380 to

00:36:11.860 send

00:36:12.220 him

00:36:12.380 over

00:36:12.620 a

00:36:12.820 report

00:36:13.180 with

00:36:13.920 the

00:36:14.600 grand

00:36:15.260 jury

00:36:15.640 sections

00:36:17.480 highlighted

00:36:18.200 so that

00:36:19.380 it would

00:36:19.720 be much

00:36:20.060 easier

00:36:20.440 for the

00:36:21.140 Department

00:36:21.700 of Justice

00:36:22.160 to then

00:36:22.760 go in

00:36:23.280 and redact

00:36:24.360 those areas

00:36:25.180 because you're

00:36:25.880 not allowed

00:36:26.260 to release

00:36:26.820 that grand

00:36:28.100 jury

00:36:28.320 information.

00:36:29.900 There are

00:36:30.300 multiple

00:36:30.700 aspects

00:36:31.180 of this

00:36:32.120 report

00:36:32.400 that you

00:36:32.820 legally

00:36:33.280 cannot

00:36:33.680 release

00:36:34.020 to the

00:36:34.240 public.

00:36:34.680 So he

00:36:34.980 said,

00:36:35.200 listen,

00:36:35.460 when you've

00:36:35.680 got the

00:36:35.960 grand

00:36:36.160 jury

00:36:36.300 information,

00:36:36.800 just

00:36:37.340 highlight

00:36:37.740 it so

00:36:38.120 that it

00:36:38.340 makes

00:36:38.520 it easier

00:36:38.820 for us

00:36:39.080 to go

00:36:39.300 through

00:36:39.500 it.

00:36:40.040 Mueller

00:36:40.200 sends

00:36:40.480 over a

00:36:40.820 400-page

00:36:41.540 report

00:36:41.900 without

00:36:42.460 any of

00:36:43.040 those

00:36:43.260 annotations

00:36:43.900 on it.

00:36:44.560 And so

00:36:44.900 William Barr

00:36:45.640 can't just

00:36:46.240 release the

00:36:46.760 report.

00:36:47.940 He can't

00:36:48.320 just say,

00:36:48.840 okay,

00:36:49.180 well,

00:36:49.360 I did a

00:36:49.680 quick half

00:36:50.100 hour pass.

00:36:50.740 There you

00:36:50.940 go.

00:36:51.100 Here's

00:36:51.240 400 pages,

00:36:52.040 everybody.

00:36:53.300 He had to

00:36:53.820 go through

00:36:54.200 it very

00:36:55.340 meticulously

00:36:56.120 as a matter

00:36:56.760 of law.

00:36:57.800 However,

00:36:58.340 because he

00:36:58.840 had the

00:36:59.200 report,

00:36:59.740 he also

00:37:00.160 wanted to

00:37:00.560 be transparent

00:37:01.240 and he

00:37:01.940 knew that

00:37:02.220 the media

00:37:02.700 and the

00:37:03.060 public were

00:37:06.800 then wait

00:37:07.160 weeks and

00:37:07.720 weeks and

00:37:08.760 open himself

00:37:09.820 up to

00:37:10.100 accusations

00:37:10.700 that he

00:37:11.000 was changing

00:37:11.540 the report.

00:37:12.340 He was

00:37:12.840 doctoring it.

00:37:14.200 He wouldn't

00:37:14.840 let it be

00:37:15.220 released.

00:37:15.760 He sent

00:37:16.120 out a

00:37:16.360 four-page

00:37:17.000 letter to

00:37:17.640 Congress

00:37:18.120 to keep

00:37:18.840 them

00:37:19.200 apprised

00:37:20.900 of what

00:37:21.120 was going

00:37:21.480 on,

00:37:21.760 especially

00:37:21.980 in their

00:37:22.280 oversight

00:37:22.740 role,

00:37:23.340 and then

00:37:23.860 he released

00:37:24.280 the report

00:37:24.600 as quickly

00:37:24.960 as possible.

00:37:26.040 We have

00:37:26.460 the report.

00:37:27.420 You can

00:37:27.760 read the

00:37:28.140 report.

00:37:28.880 You can

00:37:29.140 see whether

00:37:29.600 the letter

00:37:30.520 was accurate

00:37:31.100 or inaccurate.

00:37:32.440 It was

00:37:32.700 accurate.

00:37:34.420 Now,

00:37:34.700 this raises

00:37:35.400 the question,

00:37:36.380 how

00:37:36.660 was the

00:37:37.160 Mueller

00:37:37.300 letter

00:37:37.640 to

00:37:38.700 Barr

00:37:39.060 released

00:37:39.560 to the

00:37:39.800 press?

00:37:41.340 Seems

00:37:41.820 pretty clear

00:37:42.500 to me

00:37:42.900 that the

00:37:44.980 Mueller

00:37:45.180 team is

00:37:45.780 a little

00:37:46.000 leakier

00:37:46.560 than we

00:37:46.880 thought it

00:37:47.240 was.

00:37:47.440 We were

00:37:47.640 told through

00:37:47.980 the whole

00:37:48.220 investigation,

00:37:49.340 Mueller

00:37:49.520 never leaks,

00:37:50.300 Mueller

00:37:50.460 never leaks.

00:37:51.260 It certainly

00:37:51.540 appeared that

00:37:52.000 way,

00:37:52.580 but now

00:37:53.020 I'm beginning

00:37:53.460 to question

00:37:53.980 that.

00:37:54.440 And when

00:37:55.460 Chuck Grassley,

00:37:56.700 the Republican

00:37:57.280 senator,

00:37:57.960 was questioning

00:37:58.700 William

00:37:59.100 Barr,

00:37:59.840 Barr

00:38:00.220 raised this

00:38:01.380 point

00:38:01.700 specifically.

00:38:02.940 What are

00:38:03.280 you doing

00:38:03.840 to investigate

00:38:04.640 unauthorized

00:38:05.680 media

00:38:06.100 contacts

00:38:06.760 by the

00:38:07.440 department

00:38:07.920 and FBI

00:38:08.640 officials

00:38:09.280 during the

00:38:10.200 Reichen

00:38:10.480 investigation?

00:38:11.900 We have

00:38:12.440 multiple

00:38:12.960 criminal leak

00:38:13.800 investigations

00:38:14.600 underway.

00:38:16.200 Multiple

00:38:16.800 criminal leak

00:38:17.440 investigations

00:38:18.080 underway,

00:38:18.600 as it should

00:38:19.140 be.

00:38:19.380 All of

00:38:19.780 this is

00:38:20.260 theater.

00:38:22.020 You can

00:38:22.400 see the

00:38:23.180 report.

00:38:24.240 You can

00:38:24.540 read the

00:38:25.200 report.

00:38:26.400 So now

00:38:27.240 the Democrats,

00:38:28.340 because they

00:38:28.720 have nothing

00:38:29.060 on the actual

00:38:29.580 question,

00:38:30.520 try to

00:38:30.820 vilify

00:38:31.180 Barr.

00:38:31.480 Trouble

00:38:32.640 for them,

00:38:33.660 this is the

00:38:34.120 best part

00:38:34.480 of watching

00:38:34.860 this hearing

00:38:35.280 this morning,

00:38:36.100 is that

00:38:36.880 William

00:38:37.240 Barr is

00:38:37.720 much

00:38:38.060 smarter

00:38:38.480 than all

00:38:39.080 of these

00:38:39.360 people

00:38:39.620 combined.

00:38:40.140 Here is

00:38:40.440 Democrat

00:38:41.180 Sheldon

00:38:41.540 Whitehouse

00:38:42.060 trying to

00:38:42.720 take a

00:38:43.000 shot at

00:38:43.320 Barr.

00:38:43.500 in the

00:38:44.160 entirety of

00:38:45.240 your

00:38:45.500 previous

00:38:46.020 career in

00:38:46.520 the

00:38:46.600 Department

00:38:46.880 of

00:38:47.080 Justice,

00:38:48.040 including

00:38:48.440 as

00:38:48.680 Attorney

00:38:48.940 General,

00:38:49.500 have

00:38:49.660 you

00:38:49.840 ever

00:38:50.200 referred

00:38:50.640 to

00:38:51.240 authorized

00:38:52.440 department

00:38:53.140 investigative

00:38:53.880 activities

00:38:54.640 officially

00:38:55.980 or publicly

00:38:56.960 as

00:38:57.720 spying?

00:38:58.940 I'm not

00:38:59.280 asking for

00:38:59.640 private

00:39:00.100 conversation.

00:39:00.640 I'm not

00:39:01.020 going to

00:39:01.380 abjure the

00:39:02.660 use of the

00:39:03.080 word spying.

00:39:04.040 I think,

00:39:04.960 you know,

00:39:05.400 my first job

00:39:06.020 was in CIA,

00:39:07.060 and I don't

00:39:07.440 think the word

00:39:08.040 spying has any

00:39:08.780 pejorative

00:39:09.260 connotation at

00:39:10.260 all.

00:39:10.900 To me,

00:39:11.160 the question

00:39:12.520 is always,

00:39:13.500 whether or

00:39:14.100 not it's

00:39:14.600 authorized

00:39:15.300 and adequately

00:39:16.240 predicated

00:39:17.060 spying.

00:39:18.500 I think

00:39:19.180 spying is

00:39:20.060 a good

00:39:20.440 English word

00:39:21.200 that in fact

00:39:21.840 doesn't have

00:39:22.520 synonyms

00:39:23.200 because it

00:39:23.700 is the

00:39:24.020 broadest

00:39:24.500 word

00:39:24.920 incorporating

00:39:26.460 really all

00:39:27.160 forms of

00:39:27.760 covert

00:39:28.280 intelligence

00:39:29.260 collection.

00:39:30.040 So I'm

00:39:30.200 not going

00:39:30.400 to back

00:39:30.760 off the

00:39:31.180 word

00:39:31.360 spying,

00:39:31.920 except I

00:39:32.540 will say

00:39:32.980 I'm not

00:39:33.500 suggesting

00:39:34.080 any

00:39:34.340 pejorative,

00:39:35.060 and I

00:39:35.240 use it

00:39:35.560 frequently

00:39:36.000 as

00:39:36.360 the

00:39:36.520 media.

00:39:38.020 Oh,

00:39:39.100 it's just

00:39:39.800 devastating.

00:39:40.900 It's so

00:39:41.620 bad.

00:39:42.140 And obviously

00:39:43.620 it's bad

00:39:44.320 because

00:39:44.820 William Barr

00:39:46.220 uses very

00:39:47.080 technical language

00:39:48.000 here.

00:39:48.980 He uses

00:39:49.660 sophisticated

00:39:50.180 language.

00:39:50.740 He says,

00:39:51.000 I'm not

00:39:51.160 going to

00:39:51.440 abjure the

00:39:52.020 term

00:39:52.380 spying

00:39:53.560 because I

00:39:53.940 don't think

00:39:54.220 it carries

00:39:54.620 a pejorative.

00:39:55.660 But then

00:39:56.180 he even

00:39:58.020 makes the

00:39:58.440 point clearer

00:39:59.000 for the

00:39:59.360 media and

00:39:59.720 everyone who's

00:40:00.140 watching.

00:40:00.580 He says,

00:40:00.800 I think

00:40:01.020 spying is a

00:40:01.960 good English

00:40:02.520 word.

00:40:03.340 It has

00:40:03.760 no synonyms

00:40:04.660 because it's

00:40:05.060 the broadest

00:40:05.800 word you

00:40:06.200 can use.

00:40:06.760 And this

00:40:07.420 was a

00:40:07.760 master

00:40:08.160 stroke.

00:40:08.740 Nobody is

00:40:09.320 picking up

00:40:09.760 on this,

00:40:10.380 but this

00:40:10.620 was a

00:40:10.880 master

00:40:11.180 stroke for

00:40:11.720 more reasons

00:40:13.060 than one.

00:40:14.360 The whole

00:40:15.120 debate over

00:40:16.360 the last

00:40:16.820 two years

00:40:17.460 about

00:40:18.340 Russiagate

00:40:19.020 and the

00:40:19.240 investigation

00:40:19.860 and the

00:40:20.160 counterintelligence

00:40:20.860 investigation

00:40:21.400 and the

00:40:21.760 criminal

00:40:22.000 and all

00:40:22.340 this has

00:40:23.780 surrounded

00:40:24.360 the question

00:40:25.060 of the

00:40:25.540 deep

00:40:25.860 state.

00:40:26.700 It has

00:40:27.180 surrounded

00:40:27.600 the question

00:40:28.260 of spying.

00:40:30.140 And what

00:40:30.560 the Democrats

00:40:32.240 have been

00:40:32.740 saying is

00:40:33.940 the deep

00:40:34.480 state,

00:40:35.140 the spying,

00:40:35.800 was totally

00:40:36.620 justified.

00:40:37.760 All the

00:40:38.140 FISA

00:40:38.460 surveillance

00:40:39.180 totally

00:40:40.460 justified.

00:40:42.040 And what

00:40:42.680 the Republicans

00:40:43.200 have been

00:40:43.520 saying is

00:40:43.920 this was

00:40:44.220 an abuse,

00:40:45.640 the spying

00:40:46.080 was bad,

00:40:47.320 spying is

00:40:47.780 awful,

00:40:48.220 we shouldn't

00:40:48.520 have people

00:40:48.860 spying on

00:40:49.420 each other.

00:40:50.740 And the

00:40:51.540 premise here

00:40:52.420 of the

00:40:53.160 White House,

00:40:54.580 Sheldon

00:40:54.900 White House's

00:40:55.460 question,

00:40:56.980 the premise

00:40:57.560 is that the

00:40:58.360 spying is

00:40:59.360 bad.

00:41:00.940 So Sheldon

00:41:02.000 White House,

00:41:02.540 without even

00:41:02.980 realizing it,

00:41:04.200 is accepting

00:41:04.980 the

00:41:05.420 conservative

00:41:05.940 premise.

00:41:07.120 Yeah,

00:41:07.280 of course

00:41:07.520 it's bad

00:41:07.900 to spy

00:41:08.300 on your

00:41:08.560 political

00:41:08.840 opponents.

00:41:09.840 Yeah,

00:41:09.980 of course,

00:41:10.720 of course,

00:41:11.480 if there

00:41:11.860 was spying,

00:41:12.560 it's really

00:41:12.900 bad.

00:41:13.980 That's why

00:41:14.400 we can't

00:41:14.800 use the

00:41:15.140 word spy.

00:41:15.920 That's why

00:41:16.300 we've got

00:41:16.600 to make

00:41:16.900 up some

00:41:17.240 new word.

00:41:18.160 And we

00:41:18.580 have to

00:41:19.120 get rid

00:41:19.880 of the

00:41:20.120 word

00:41:20.320 spying.

00:41:21.660 What Barr

00:41:22.520 is pointing

00:41:23.040 out here

00:41:23.540 is that

00:41:24.360 the Democrat,

00:41:25.260 Sheldon

00:41:25.480 White House,

00:41:25.960 is accepting

00:41:26.580 the Republican

00:41:27.060 premise.

00:41:28.180 Saying,

00:41:28.860 Senator

00:41:29.220 White House,

00:41:30.340 you're using

00:41:30.900 the word

00:41:31.240 spying as

00:41:31.980 though it's

00:41:32.240 a bad

00:41:32.600 thing.

00:41:33.500 I used to

00:41:33.880 work at

00:41:34.160 the CIA.

00:41:35.320 Our

00:41:35.440 government

00:41:35.760 spies all

00:41:36.320 the time.

00:41:37.280 Spying is

00:41:37.880 neither good

00:41:38.500 nor bad.

00:41:39.220 Spying is

00:41:39.680 a totally

00:41:40.180 morally

00:41:40.900 neutral

00:41:41.320 term.

00:41:42.600 The

00:41:42.720 question is

00:41:43.400 whether the

00:41:43.900 spying was

00:41:44.740 legal,

00:41:46.060 legitimate,

00:41:47.300 appropriate,

00:41:48.380 or whether

00:41:48.960 it was

00:41:49.740 inappropriate,

00:41:50.660 whether it

00:41:51.000 was an

00:41:51.220 abuse of

00:41:51.740 power.

00:41:53.620 Sheldon

00:41:54.060 White House

00:41:54.440 gives up

00:41:54.880 the whole

00:41:55.180 game here.

00:41:57.920 He's

00:41:58.360 saying,

00:41:58.800 oh,

00:41:59.000 yeah,

00:41:59.440 of course

00:41:59.700 this spying

00:42:00.260 is bad.

00:42:00.720 No,

00:42:01.040 no.

00:42:02.000 I'm not

00:42:02.620 using the

00:42:03.020 word spying

00:42:03.560 in a bad

00:42:03.920 way.

00:42:04.160 You're

00:42:04.400 using it

00:42:04.840 in a bad

00:42:05.180 way.

00:42:05.420 Why?

00:42:05.860 Because you

00:42:06.280 know that

00:42:07.440 the spying

00:42:08.040 that took

00:42:08.400 place,

00:42:09.160 you know

00:42:09.800 that the

00:42:10.420 FISA warrants

00:42:11.200 from the

00:42:11.500 Trump campaign

00:42:12.100 based on

00:42:12.660 nothing,

00:42:13.420 based on

00:42:13.920 Democrat-funded

00:42:14.740 steel dossiers

00:42:15.700 and Russian

00:42:16.400 disinformation,

00:42:17.480 you know that

00:42:18.120 that spying

00:42:18.780 was bad.

00:42:19.680 You know

00:42:20.000 that it

00:42:20.280 carries a

00:42:20.740 pejorative

00:42:21.140 connotation.

00:42:23.560 It's a

00:42:24.160 subtle point.

00:42:24.880 It's not

00:42:25.200 going to be

00:42:25.600 widely

00:42:25.900 appreciated,

00:42:26.820 but that

00:42:27.180 point is

00:42:27.880 going to

00:42:28.160 matter in

00:42:28.500 the coming

00:42:28.760 weeks.

00:42:30.720 So he

00:42:31.340 fails.

00:42:31.740 He fails to

00:42:32.280 take down

00:42:32.620 Barr.

00:42:33.380 Dianne

00:42:33.700 Feinstein

00:42:34.080 also tries

00:42:34.900 to take

00:42:35.220 her shot

00:42:35.700 at Barr.

00:42:36.620 You still

00:42:37.220 have a

00:42:37.620 situation

00:42:38.220 where a

00:42:39.740 president

00:42:40.180 essentially

00:42:41.480 tries to

00:42:42.340 change

00:42:42.880 the lawyer's

00:42:45.800 account in

00:42:46.700 order to

00:42:47.280 prevent

00:42:47.740 further

00:42:48.800 criticism

00:42:50.160 of himself.

00:42:51.520 Well,

00:42:51.740 that's not

00:42:52.040 a crime.

00:42:52.460 And she

00:42:55.600 just sort

00:42:56.420 of

00:42:56.540 stammers

00:42:57.040 after that.

00:42:57.880 She goes,

00:42:58.060 uh-uh.

00:42:59.160 Um,

00:43:00.240 uh,

00:43:01.540 uh,

00:43:02.080 she's got

00:43:03.220 nothing.

00:43:05.640 There's an

00:43:06.320 interesting point

00:43:07.000 on language

00:43:07.480 here as well,

00:43:08.260 which is,

00:43:09.260 you hear the

00:43:09.840 Democrats

00:43:10.420 trying to

00:43:11.160 use all

00:43:11.700 of this

00:43:12.120 confusing,

00:43:13.140 jargony

00:43:13.600 terminology,

00:43:14.840 trying to

00:43:15.300 imply that

00:43:16.200 certain

00:43:16.500 activities,

00:43:17.560 like the

00:43:18.000 relationship

00:43:18.580 with the

00:43:19.360 lawyers and

00:43:20.140 the clients,

00:43:20.940 this is

00:43:21.900 somehow

00:43:22.260 nefarious.

00:43:23.480 And then

00:43:23.700 Bill Barr

00:43:24.100 comes in

00:43:24.580 very clearly.

00:43:25.300 He goes,

00:43:25.540 that's not

00:43:25.780 a crime.

00:43:27.160 What crime

00:43:28.100 are you

00:43:28.380 alleging?

00:43:29.620 I wish

00:43:29.980 Bill Barr

00:43:30.420 had been

00:43:30.640 around two

00:43:31.340 years ago.

00:43:32.700 Donald Trump

00:43:33.520 colluded

00:43:34.040 with the

00:43:34.440 Russians.

00:43:36.040 There's no

00:43:36.660 evidence that

00:43:37.180 he did.

00:43:37.640 Even if he

00:43:38.080 did,

00:43:38.340 collusion is

00:43:38.860 not a

00:43:39.140 crime.

00:43:40.060 There's no

00:43:40.440 crime of

00:43:41.000 collusion.

00:43:43.280 He is,

00:43:44.040 Bill Barr

00:43:44.660 is just

00:43:45.360 the absolute

00:43:46.680 BS

00:43:47.780 destroyer.

00:43:48.820 He just

00:43:49.100 decimates it

00:43:49.920 with that

00:43:50.580 totally

00:43:51.180 blasé look

00:43:52.240 on his

00:43:52.560 face.

00:43:53.480 He looks

00:43:53.880 like a

00:43:54.260 bored

00:43:54.580 bulldog.

00:43:55.820 He does

00:43:56.220 remind me

00:43:56.640 in many

00:43:56.880 ways of

00:43:57.260 Scalia.

00:43:58.400 When you

00:43:58.700 would see

00:43:59.000 Scalia rip

00:44:00.980 apart bad

00:44:01.680 arguments,

00:44:02.600 he would

00:44:02.880 do it

00:44:03.260 with this

00:44:03.620 kind of

00:44:04.380 blasé,

00:44:07.040 oh well,

00:44:07.820 the problem

00:44:08.960 with your

00:44:09.420 argument is

00:44:09.960 it's completely

00:44:10.460 wrong.

00:44:11.660 That's what

00:44:12.340 Bill Barr

00:44:13.180 is doing

00:44:13.560 here.

00:44:13.760 And they

00:44:13.920 have no

00:44:14.200 answer.

00:44:14.600 You can

00:44:15.040 see Dianne

00:44:15.620 Feinstein

00:44:15.980 just stammer.

00:44:16.700 Hamina,

00:44:16.960 hamina,

00:44:17.220 hamina.

00:44:17.840 What's the

00:44:18.380 real reason?

00:44:18.940 At the

00:44:20.460 end of

00:44:20.700 all of

00:44:20.960 this

00:44:21.120 circus

00:44:21.580 that

00:44:22.420 Democrats

00:44:22.800 want

00:44:23.180 Barr

00:44:23.520 out

00:44:23.780 right

00:44:24.040 now,

00:44:24.980 what's

00:44:25.200 the real reason?

00:44:25.680 He's a

00:44:26.140 bulldog.

00:44:28.100 Now,

00:44:29.300 maybe they're

00:44:30.000 just desperate.

00:44:30.720 They're

00:44:30.800 grasping at

00:44:31.300 straws.

00:44:31.640 They need

00:44:31.880 a new

00:44:32.120 boogeyman.

00:44:32.720 Sure.

00:44:33.160 I think

00:44:33.460 there's a

00:44:33.740 more

00:44:33.880 material

00:44:34.340 reason,

00:44:34.980 too.

00:44:35.540 And it's

00:44:35.980 William Barr's

00:44:36.760 answer to

00:44:37.220 this question

00:44:37.940 from

00:44:38.380 Lindsey Graham.

00:44:38.980 Do you

00:44:39.880 share my

00:44:40.320 concerns about

00:44:41.200 the FISA

00:44:41.680 warrant process?

00:44:43.300 Yes.

00:44:43.860 Do you

00:44:44.120 share my

00:44:44.500 concerns about

00:44:45.200 the

00:44:45.380 counterintelligence

00:44:46.220 investigation,

00:44:47.060 how it was

00:44:47.440 opened and

00:44:47.880 why it was

00:44:48.300 opened?

00:44:48.840 Yes.

00:44:49.700 Do you

00:44:49.960 share my

00:44:50.340 concerns that

00:44:51.160 the

00:44:51.300 lack of

00:44:53.040 professionalism

00:44:54.000 in the

00:44:55.000 Clinton email

00:44:55.540 investigation is

00:44:56.480 something we

00:44:56.940 should all

00:44:57.280 look at?

00:44:58.960 Yes.

00:45:01.120 Yes,

00:45:01.900 indeed.

00:45:03.560 The

00:45:04.120 investigators

00:45:05.080 become the

00:45:06.460 investigated

00:45:07.340 and the

00:45:08.600 real

00:45:08.900 injustice

00:45:09.540 that took

00:45:10.520 place over

00:45:11.420 the last

00:45:11.760 two years

00:45:12.420 might soon

00:45:14.300 be exposed

00:45:15.080 because you've

00:45:16.000 got this

00:45:16.380 bulldog,

00:45:16.960 this highly

00:45:17.380 intelligent,

00:45:18.280 highly

00:45:18.540 professional,

00:45:19.660 highly trained

00:45:20.640 bulldog now

00:45:22.860 turning the

00:45:23.440 tables on

00:45:24.600 the entire

00:45:25.260 Russia

00:45:25.780 narrative.

00:45:27.600 So much

00:45:28.140 more to get

00:45:28.520 to.

00:45:28.720 We'll have

00:45:28.960 to do it

00:45:29.380 tomorrow.

00:45:30.260 So much

00:45:30.740 to look

00:45:31.060 forward to.

00:45:31.960 Get your

00:45:32.260 mailbag

00:45:32.500 questions in.

00:45:33.060 In the

00:45:33.180 meantime,

00:45:33.520 I'm

00:45:33.620 Michael Knowles.

00:45:34.120 This is

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00:45:35.040 I'll see

00:45:35.240 you then.

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00:46:05.920 Hey everybody,

00:46:07.120 it's Andrew

00:46:07.440 Klavan,

00:46:07.820 host of

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00:46:19.120 why gun rights

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00:46:20.360 and why Donald

00:46:21.060 Trump and his

00:46:21.720 team of foreign

00:46:22.400 policy tough

00:46:23.060 guys may be

00:46:24.040 the men

00:46:24.540 of the hour.

00:46:25.640 I'm Andrew

00:46:26.020 Klavan.

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Ep. 341 - Venezuela Is Bernie and AOC's Utopia

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