The Michael Knowles Show


Ep. 367 - Can Trump Actually Deport Millions Of Illegals？


Summary

Trump announces plans to deport millions of illegal aliens as soon as next week. A new poll shows Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is immensely unpopular in her own district. Finally, the Washington Post examines the real reason that white America turned on O.J. Simpson. Spoiler alert: it s because he murdered his ex-wife and her friend.


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00:00:37.760 President Trump announces plans to deport millions of illegal aliens as soon as next week.
00:00:43.820 Does he have the political cojones to follow through? We will see.
00:00:47.260 As Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez compares illegal immigration to the Holocaust,
00:00:51.480 a new poll shows she is immensely unpopular in her own district.
00:00:55.840 We'll see how those numbers hold up.
00:00:57.580 Finally, the Washington Post examines the real reason that white America turned on O.J. Simpson.
00:01:03.880 Spoiler alert, it's because he murdered his ex-wife and her friend.
00:01:06.920 All that and more. I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:01:09.480 I know sometimes when it's a slow news cycle, these Washington Post writers need to try to rehash old think pieces,
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00:03:21.940 President Trump, big announcement today.
00:03:25.180 He said that he is going to deport millions of people.
00:03:28.500 This is the tweet.
00:03:29.280 Quote,
00:03:29.520 This is a bold claim.
00:03:44.380 We have probably at least 11 million illegal aliens in the country.
00:03:48.100 Some estimates put that number higher.
00:03:50.200 It could be 12 million, 13 million, even higher than that.
00:03:53.340 President Trump says starting as soon as next week, he's going to just deport millions of people.
00:03:57.040 That's his word, millions.
00:03:58.060 Now, it's a little confusing in the way he says it.
00:04:01.060 He says, on the one hand, we're going to remove millions of illegal aliens who've come into this country illegally.
00:04:05.620 On the other hand, he says, they will be removed as fast as they come in.
00:04:10.020 So is he only going to, he's going to be removing the ones that come in?
00:04:12.800 We're getting 3,000 illegal aliens a day coming in.
00:04:15.240 Or is he going to remove the 11 million that we already have here?
00:04:18.320 Or is he going to do both?
00:04:20.300 Hopefully he's doing both.
00:04:21.800 But, but I mean, it can't, it can't simultaneously be both, right?
00:04:26.160 He can't remove them as fast as they come in and remove the 11 million that we've got.
00:04:31.840 If, you know, other, it's sort of like when you've, when you're trying to pay down principle, right?
00:04:36.920 You can either, if you have a loan or something, you can either service the loan and pay the,
00:04:41.420 the fees on the loan or you can pay down the actual principle that you owe.
00:04:45.600 If you, if you're only deporting in the numbers as people come into the country,
00:04:50.700 you're not actually dealing with the 11 million that you already have there.
00:04:54.280 The other question is, can he actually do it?
00:04:58.600 How, how is he supposed to deport 11 million people?
00:05:01.280 I have a lot of sympathy for President Trump here because he said he was going to deport all of these people
00:05:06.640 and then he gets into office and he hasn't been successful at that.
00:05:09.580 How's he supposed to do it?
00:05:10.640 How do you get rid of 11 million people in a country?
00:05:14.260 I mean, in a country of 300 million people, that's actually a significant portion of people.
00:05:19.360 How is he supposed to do it?
00:05:20.540 And then there's the political question, which is, do Americans even want mass deportation?
00:05:27.000 Maybe they talk a good game.
00:05:28.380 Maybe they elect a president who says he's going to deport 11 million people.
00:05:32.400 Do they actually want it?
00:05:33.660 Do they actually want to see people being carted out of their houses?
00:05:36.560 You know, everyone, everyone wants to deport the illegal alien in the other town.
00:05:41.980 Nobody wants to deport the illegal alien that you know, that you're friends with.
00:05:45.280 Nobody wants to deport the guy doing your lawn or the guy or the, or the lady taking care of your kids.
00:05:50.560 Right?
00:05:51.160 It's sort of the same thing with Congress.
00:05:52.880 Everyone hates Congress, but they tend to like their own congressman.
00:05:56.620 So they say, go throw all the bums out except for my congressman.
00:05:59.860 And then nobody gets thrown out of Congress.
00:06:02.520 So I'm a little skeptical.
00:06:04.000 We'll analyze the political implications of that.
00:06:05.880 This announcement itself from President Trump came just hours after the State Department
00:06:11.520 announced that the U.S. was going to be cutting aid to the biggest offender countries
00:06:16.560 for sending illegal aliens to the United States.
00:06:19.700 So three countries in Central America are going to see their aid cut.
00:06:22.860 Earlier, it was announced that there would be a $615 million cut in aid to Guatemala,
00:06:30.140 Honduras, and El Salvador.
00:06:32.120 Significant money for basically failed states.
00:06:34.960 They've now eased that.
00:06:36.720 So now they've walked that back to about $432 million.
00:06:40.900 Again, this is not, I think some of Trump's critics are going to try to portray this as
00:06:44.940 a, as weakening or walking it back.
00:06:47.540 But President Trump has bragged for 30 years about how he always starts out asking for
00:06:52.360 99% and he's willing to settle for 50.
00:06:56.720 He just starts out at some outrageous number and then he walks it back.
00:07:00.020 So that, I think, is perfectly in keeping.
00:07:02.280 And we've seen already with the trade deal in Mexico that Trump has been pretty successful
00:07:07.700 at getting concessions out of the people who are sending illegal aliens to this country.
00:07:14.100 So I hope, hope that works.
00:07:16.280 I mean, that's all good news.
00:07:17.520 However, I just can't get too excited about this.
00:07:22.080 President Trump says, we're going to do it.
00:07:23.420 We're finally going to get serious about illegal immigration.
00:07:26.960 It seems to me I've heard that song before.
00:07:29.540 I mean, President Trump has a major credibility problem on his hands.
00:07:33.860 And I say this as someone who really wants him to be successful.
00:07:36.860 He has got to deliver on the immigration promises.
00:07:42.180 He's got to do it.
00:07:43.240 I mean, he's got to do it because it was a central pillar of his campaign.
00:07:47.720 He's got to do it if he wants re-election.
00:07:50.460 President Trump can honestly say right now that he has fulfilled more promises than any
00:07:55.760 president in recent history, if not ever.
00:07:58.820 I mean, he has been very good at fulfilling promises.
00:08:02.240 Great economy, record low joblessness.
00:08:04.860 He's renegotiated trade deals.
00:08:06.700 People said he wouldn't be able to do that.
00:08:08.500 He's gotten concessions out of our trading partners.
00:08:12.260 He's got relative peace abroad.
00:08:14.320 He ran as an anti-war candidate.
00:08:16.460 There have been moments when he could have intervened in Venezuela or Iran right now or
00:08:21.080 other places.
00:08:21.960 And he has consistently refused to do that.
00:08:24.780 He's managed a very dangerous situation in North Korea pretty well.
00:08:29.720 He's moved our embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.
00:08:34.000 This has been a policy priority of the United States for multiple administrations.
00:08:38.260 He's the first one to actually do it.
00:08:39.720 He's the first one to fulfill that promise.
00:08:42.240 He has given us some good judges and justices, apparently originalist justices.
00:08:48.200 The jury is still out a little bit on Kavanaugh, but Gorsuch seems quite good.
00:08:52.660 He's given us a lot of other great federal judges.
00:08:54.840 I mean, he's done a lot.
00:08:56.300 I don't mean to belittle what he's actually accomplished, but a central feature of his 2016
00:09:04.900 campaign was dealing with illegal immigration.
00:09:08.820 That may have been the central feature, either jobs or illegal immigration.
00:09:15.020 And he hasn't succeeded there.
00:09:17.460 He hasn't gotten illegal immigration under control.
00:09:19.800 We have 3,000 people a day coming into this country illegally.
00:09:25.200 Now, what Trump can say to that is, right, they're coming into this country illegally because
00:09:29.980 the economy is doing so well.
00:09:31.460 They weren't coming into this country in those numbers under Obama because the Obama economy
00:09:36.080 was terrible.
00:09:37.020 Right, that's true.
00:09:37.860 I guess on the question of immigration, Trump is a victim of his own economic success.
00:09:43.480 You've got to account for that.
00:09:44.640 I mean, if you're campaigning on, I'm going to fix the economy, the economy is going to
00:09:49.080 go gangbusters, we're going to have record low joblessness, and we're going to take care
00:09:52.300 of illegal immigration, then you've obviously got a factor in the economy to your immigration
00:09:56.940 promises.
00:09:57.760 So the economy is going great.
00:09:59.280 You've got all of these economic migrants who are pretending to be asylum seekers flooding
00:10:03.900 into this country.
00:10:05.540 You've got to deal with that.
00:10:07.140 And I actually think he can do it.
00:10:09.460 I'm not pessimistic about this.
00:10:11.320 I think he can deal with illegal immigration.
00:10:13.520 I don't think he's going to deport 11 million illegal aliens next week, but he can do it.
00:10:18.060 He made a great first step with that Mexico trade deal.
00:10:21.220 Everyone said, there's no way you're going to get concessions out of Mexico.
00:10:24.400 There's no way that tariff threats are going to work.
00:10:27.100 Tariffs are always a terrible idea.
00:10:29.620 Tariffs have no credibility.
00:10:31.080 Tariffs will never work.
00:10:32.180 Guess what?
00:10:32.620 They did.
00:10:33.120 And Mexico agreed to multiple concessions as well as deploying 6,000 National Guard troops
00:10:38.700 to their southern border to deal with illegal immigration.
00:10:41.340 They also agreed in that deal to keep asylum seekers on their side of the border, rather
00:10:47.320 than having them come into the United States to just pal around here and run away from the
00:10:53.120 judge and never be seen or heard from again.
00:10:55.360 That was a good first step.
00:10:57.860 But 3,000 illegal aliens a day.
00:11:00.820 We don't have very much wall built.
00:11:02.720 We were supposed to get a big, beautiful wall.
00:11:04.140 We don't have one yet.
00:11:05.820 We don't have any real solution in sight.
00:11:08.320 Let's say we get 500 miles of border wall this year.
00:11:10.940 That would be great.
00:11:12.860 Is that what we were promised for the first term of the Trump administration?
00:11:16.160 Not quite.
00:11:17.480 He's got to start deporting illegal aliens.
00:11:21.020 But this is going to be a political nightmare because I'm pretty certain that no one actually
00:11:26.960 wants to see mass deportation.
00:11:29.060 We all think we do.
00:11:30.720 We all want to fix the illegal immigration problem.
00:11:34.640 We don't want there to be illegal aliens in the country.
00:11:36.920 We don't want illegal aliens to keep coming into the country.
00:11:40.100 But we don't want to see mass deportation.
00:11:43.940 We don't want to see it in practice because it's ugly.
00:11:46.420 The problem of illegal immigration is ugly.
00:11:48.780 It brings crime.
00:11:49.500 It brings drugs.
00:11:50.800 It creates whole hosts of problems for the government, for taxpayers, for social services,
00:11:56.600 for our culture because people aren't assimilating.
00:11:59.200 They're not learning English.
00:12:00.380 They're not coming into the culture.
00:12:01.640 We are, for some reason, assimilating to illegal aliens at the encouragement of the cultural
00:12:06.080 left and the Democratic Party.
00:12:07.360 I mean, the problem of illegal immigration is very ugly as well.
00:12:11.720 And an ugly problem is going to require an ugly solution.
00:12:14.740 And I don't think we have the political stamina for that.
00:12:17.840 So how can Trump do it?
00:12:19.040 One way, probably the only way, is to focus on criminal aliens.
00:12:24.020 I guess all of them are criminals.
00:12:26.740 They're quite literally criminals.
00:12:28.320 They broke the law to come here.
00:12:29.680 But the ones who have the face tattoos, the ones who are in gangs, the ones committing
00:12:33.300 violence, rape, murder, burglary, really bad hombres, to use the president's term.
00:12:39.280 Those are the ones you've got to focus on.
00:12:41.560 And you can focus on them as a matter of policy.
00:12:43.940 But even more importantly than the matter of policy, those are the ones you've got to
00:12:47.680 focus on as a matter of messaging.
00:12:50.300 And this is why President Trump needs a really, really good press secretary, I say in a leading
00:12:56.640 way.
00:12:57.140 I say, no, there's no, I mean, take that how you will.
00:13:00.480 I'm not, I would be really good if you got like a, I don't know, a young, maybe 29-year-old
00:13:06.520 Italian looking.
00:13:08.920 I don't know.
00:13:09.420 He needs a good press secretary is what I'm saying.
00:13:11.520 It's sort of a shame that Sarah Sanders is leaving right now because she is a tremendously
00:13:15.540 talented press secretary.
00:13:17.560 If President Trump actually implements this policy of significantly ramping up deportations,
00:13:23.340 you need a press secretary who's able to go out there every single day and say, look
00:13:27.960 at this face.
00:13:29.160 Look at this criminal with face tattoos, who's got blood in his teeth, who's, you know, chewing
00:13:34.480 on human flesh, who's just like the worst guy that you've ever seen.
00:13:37.940 You've got to make that the face of illegal immigration.
00:13:41.520 Because what the left is going to do, what the left is already doing is making some little
00:13:46.120 child in a cage the face of illegal immigration.
00:13:49.560 Never mind that the photos of children in cages come from 2014.
00:13:53.640 They come from the Obama administration.
00:13:55.540 Doesn't matter.
00:13:56.540 This is, this is not actually about the policies.
00:13:59.620 The left doesn't care about the children in cages or whatever happened.
00:14:02.660 If they cared, they would have raised a ruckus about it during the Obama administration.
00:14:06.440 What this is about is the issue of illegal immigration.
00:14:08.860 The left wants open borders.
00:14:10.480 They want to flood this country with people who will, who are more likely to support them
00:14:14.720 politically and who over successive generations are all but certain to support them politically.
00:14:19.300 This is just what the data and the statistics show.
00:14:22.160 They want to do that.
00:14:23.840 They want to radically change American culture.
00:14:26.920 They want to fundamentally transform the country, as Barack Obama said.
00:14:29.600 And what the right wants to do is maintain the integrity of our nation and say a nation has
00:14:35.220 borders and a nation has laws and we should enforce our laws because that's how we govern
00:14:39.420 ourselves through our democratically elected representatives.
00:14:43.880 That's, that's the debate that's happening now.
00:14:46.000 And the way that debate is going to be waged is a picture of a little kid in a cage and a
00:14:50.180 picture of some face tattooed, scary, wacko, rapist, murderer, gangster.
00:14:54.780 That is going to be the battle.
00:14:56.780 President Trump has got to focus on that.
00:14:58.300 There are two schools of thought on why Donald Trump won.
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00:17:11.480 So there are two schools of thought on President Trump.
00:17:14.940 The one school of thought is policy doesn't matter.
00:17:18.440 His voters don't care about policy.
00:17:20.040 They just like that he's tough and he talks mean and he's cruel.
00:17:23.320 And he, you know, he's just got that look to him.
00:17:26.440 The other school of thought is, yeah, maybe people get a kick out of Trump's personality.
00:17:30.800 He's a good showman.
00:17:31.680 But actually, they don't care about that.
00:17:33.860 They care that he's offering a different set of policies and a different set of experiences than other politicians have in the past.
00:17:41.880 So all of the elite kind of conservative types, the establishment types, the conservative, capital C, trademark over the if, those guys all say that it's because of Trump's flaws that people like him.
00:18:01.000 Because he's cruel, because he's mean, because he's crass.
00:18:03.860 That's what they like about him.
00:18:05.540 Ann Coulter wrote an entire book about how that is not true.
00:18:08.100 And actually, the reason people like him is because he, unlike every other candidate on the Republican side in 2016, offered different policy solutions.
00:18:17.000 He didn't just regurgitate the same talking points from 1983.
00:18:20.420 He said, no, we actually have to look at the effect of globalization on the American worker.
00:18:26.220 We actually have to look at our trade policies.
00:18:28.680 We have to look at if we're surrendering national sovereignty to these massive international, supranational organizations and trade unions.
00:18:36.800 We need to reexamine that because we have different problems in 2019.
00:18:41.100 We need to look at immigration.
00:18:42.420 Immigration, you know, the Chamber of Commerce, Wall Street Journal, Establishment, Republican idea of unfettered open borders and immigration, that isn't helping America.
00:18:51.680 That is actually hurting America, and we're going to change that.
00:18:54.220 And I think that's what people resonated with.
00:18:58.500 You know, the elite people tell me, and look, I aspire to be an elite person.
00:19:04.240 I love luxurious things.
00:19:05.460 I wear a smoking jacket when I go on the backstage show.
00:19:07.800 But the people who are the self-styled elites, the ones who consider themselves better than the rest of America, I think a lot of them look down on the motivations that cause some people to vote for Trump.
00:19:20.520 They say, oh, yeah, they voted for Trump because they want revenge.
00:19:24.860 They want to get back at people.
00:19:26.300 They're really angry.
00:19:27.720 That's irrational.
00:19:28.840 It's emotional.
00:19:29.860 I don't think that's it.
00:19:30.620 But the people that I talk to who voted for Trump more often than not tell me they like Trump in spite of certain personality flaws.
00:19:40.380 They wish he didn't say this all the time.
00:19:41.820 They wish he wasn't tweeting like this all the time.
00:19:43.860 They just like what he does, and they like what he says that he will do.
00:19:48.500 And that's perfectly reasonable.
00:19:50.120 The question is, can he do what he says he's going to do on this central campaign issue?
00:19:54.980 I really hope he can.
00:19:55.900 I mean, I think the guy is a brilliant politician.
00:19:58.080 I think he's got brilliant political chops.
00:20:00.020 He's been very effective, and I think he fears and knows that if he doesn't get serious on immigration, he's not going to win in 2020.
00:20:07.180 Is there enough time?
00:20:08.740 I don't know.
00:20:09.560 I'm not so sure about that.
00:20:10.520 We'll have to see if Trump can harness this massive leviathan, this ship of the United States federal government,
00:20:18.200 and use it to actually fulfill that promise of deportations and getting serious on the border.
00:20:23.720 Because time is running out.
00:20:24.960 We're about a year and a half, less than a year and a half away from the 2020 election.
00:20:29.100 And by the way, the left is going to be keeping up very hard on this issue.
00:20:35.540 They're going to be going at this issue incredibly hard as well.
00:20:38.920 The future of the Democrat Party, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, so dubbed by the chairman of the Democrat Party, Tom Perez,
00:20:47.140 says she has come out and compared the Trump administration's current immigration policy to the Holocaust.
00:20:54.700 Here is the poor, benighted congresswoman from New York's 14th congressional district.
00:20:59.880 The United States is running concentration camps on our southern border, and that is exactly what they are.
00:21:10.280 They are concentration camps.
00:21:11.740 And if that doesn't bother you, I don't, I don't, I like, we can have, okay, whatever.
00:21:26.020 I want to talk to the people that are concerned enough with humanity to say that we should not, that never again means something.
00:21:34.480 She is so articulate.
00:21:36.300 I have so many points to begin with.
00:21:39.640 First of all, I wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt.
00:21:43.140 Because one thing she is saying now, she is saying, people are saying I'm comparing the illegal immigration centers to the Holocaust.
00:21:49.940 I'm not.
00:21:50.980 There's a difference between a concentration camp and a death camp.
00:21:54.160 And these concentration camps are where they hold people against their will, and death camps are what you saw in the Holocaust.
00:22:01.160 And I was not invoking the Holocaust.
00:22:02.940 And I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt, but I can't because she specifically invoked the Holocaust.
00:22:09.500 There at the end, she made a specific reference.
00:22:11.840 She said, we're talking about never again.
00:22:14.700 If never again means something, never again is a phrase that refers explicitly, directly to the Holocaust.
00:22:22.000 So she is drawing that comparison to the Holocaust.
00:22:24.800 And obviously, there's no comparison whatsoever.
00:22:28.720 I'll get to the point she's trying to make in a second and why it's completely wrong.
00:22:33.200 But I want to point something out.
00:22:34.840 She's obviously very inarticulate.
00:22:37.040 She doesn't know how to complete a sentence.
00:22:39.820 She doesn't know how to complete a train of thought.
00:22:41.920 She doesn't know how to make an argument.
00:22:43.940 She says, if you disagree with me, then I can't even, I don't know.
00:22:49.500 And then she goes on to something else.
00:22:51.020 And people make fun of her for this.
00:22:53.320 And they say that it shows that she's not very intelligent.
00:22:56.040 And probably that's true.
00:22:58.640 But she's mastered this craft.
00:23:02.620 She's mastered the art of speaking in this way.
00:23:05.960 Because if she were at a podium giving that speech, she would look like a complete idiot.
00:23:11.480 I mean, she wouldn't even be able to fool her own base.
00:23:14.840 So how does she give this speech?
00:23:16.580 She does it from her couch wearing her pajamas with blankets all around her on Instagram,
00:23:22.940 sitting in Indian position with her legs crossed.
00:23:26.440 And it's so casual that she can get away with speaking casually.
00:23:30.520 The trouble for AOC is she's not capable of speaking in an elevated way or an articulate way
00:23:35.880 or in any sort of soaring rhetoric.
00:23:37.820 She can't do that.
00:23:40.640 That's why she does these Instagram things.
00:23:43.480 Because she's very good at this.
00:23:45.440 We all speak casually.
00:23:47.380 When we speak to each other at a bar or something,
00:23:50.280 we start a sentence and then before,
00:23:53.480 well, actually, we'll talk about this.
00:23:54.920 And then we move on here and we use words flippantly and we use lower, baser language.
00:24:00.700 And when we're giving a speech, giving the State of the Union, we give more elevated language.
00:24:06.060 Even on this kind of medium, when we're talking about podcasts,
00:24:09.400 podcasts are a very conversational medium.
00:24:11.300 The way you talk in a podcast or a podcast interview is totally different than the way you would speak
00:24:15.980 if you were testifying before Congress or if you were at your confirmation hearings for the Supreme Court.
00:24:21.160 Even that, you adjust for the medium.
00:24:23.060 And I think people have focused on AOC using Instagram and Twitter because she's young, she's hip, she's with the youth.
00:24:32.240 I don't think that's quite it.
00:24:33.360 I mean, I guess she is.
00:24:34.220 She is young.
00:24:35.120 The reason she does it is because that's the only level of discourse that she's capable of.
00:24:41.740 And so rather than try to elevate herself and be something that she's going to fail at,
00:24:46.060 she brings all of the media that she uses down to her level, which is very conversational and immature and childish.
00:24:55.780 You remember one of her first major interviews was with Margaret Hoover on the new version of Firing Line.
00:25:01.040 And it was where she said, ha ha, I'm not the expert.
00:25:03.800 I don't know.
00:25:04.780 And she looked like a total fool and people made fun of her for it.
00:25:07.800 And then Ali Stuckey did that video where she parodied the interview.
00:25:10.940 That was because AOC was trying to do a more serious, long-form interview, and she can't do it.
00:25:17.480 So now she focuses all of her attention on social media, small, casual, because it excuses the way that she speaks.
00:25:25.540 And even if she says something crazy like compares U.S. immigration policy to the Holocaust,
00:25:31.560 even if she does that, she's not really held to account for it because, you know, it's just the way you talk in your living room.
00:25:38.240 You know, sometimes people say things that aren't true or that they come off wrong.
00:25:42.040 So I actually think that strategy is pretty brilliant,
00:25:44.980 especially for someone who is as intellectually and rhetorically limited as AOC, the future of the Democrat Party.
00:25:51.700 Now, as for what she's actually saying, she's comparing illegal immigration centers to Japanese internment camps.
00:26:01.620 First of all, they're not being held at a Japanese internment camp.
00:26:04.960 Not really.
00:26:05.580 What she's implying is that we've got these concentration camps that are being used for illegal aliens.
00:26:12.800 Actually, they're being held at an army base.
00:26:14.720 They're being held at Fort Sill in Oklahoma.
00:26:17.760 So it's not some specific concentration camp built for illegal aliens.
00:26:21.740 This is already an army base.
00:26:23.440 It was used during the Second World War to intern Japanese Americans.
00:26:28.360 Why are the illegal aliens going to Oklahoma?
00:26:30.760 They're headed there because we can't keep all of them at the southern border.
00:26:33.460 You've got these people.
00:26:35.560 These aren't illegal aliens that have lived in the country for 20 years.
00:26:38.040 These are people who are currently pouring over right now since Donald Trump was elected.
00:26:42.140 And we can't keep them all in Arizona and Texas and California.
00:26:47.100 It's totally unfair to those border towns and those border states.
00:26:50.660 Illegal immigration is a federal problem.
00:26:52.720 It's a national problem.
00:26:53.740 They're not entering because they just happen to love California.
00:26:56.360 They're entering to get into the United States because to be an American citizen or to have
00:27:00.620 a family member who's an American citizen is the greatest political privilege that the
00:27:04.840 world has ever known.
00:27:06.700 So illegal immigration is a federal problem.
00:27:09.300 We already know that.
00:27:10.180 That's why we have federal agencies to deal with it.
00:27:12.000 And so they're finding a federal solution and spreading out some of the illegal aliens
00:27:15.480 throughout the country, including now in Oklahoma, rather than to just a handful of border states.
00:27:21.180 Now, this army base was used by FDR to intern Japanese Americans.
00:27:28.640 Not illegal alien Japanese people, but actual Japanese Americans.
00:27:33.660 And the Japanese Americans were Americans.
00:27:37.600 Let's see what AOC thinks about that and our values.
00:27:40.240 This is a crisis for ourselves.
00:27:42.500 This is a crisis on if America will remain America in its actual principles and values,
00:27:49.920 or if we are losing to an authoritarian and fascist presidency.
00:27:58.740 She contradicts herself and no one's called her out for contradicting herself.
00:28:01.940 She obviously is completely unaware that she contradicts herself.
00:28:04.880 She says that these concentration camps, which by which she really means just centered,
00:28:10.240 where you're holding illegal aliens, are fascist.
00:28:15.020 Here she is.
00:28:16.200 You know, I don't use those words lightly.
00:28:18.360 I don't use those words to just throw bombs.
00:28:24.620 I use that word because that is what an administration that creates concentration camps is.
00:28:31.580 A presidency that creates concentration camps is fascist.
00:28:39.180 It's fascist.
00:28:40.260 Okay.
00:28:40.680 A presidency that uses concentration camps is fascist.
00:28:45.700 So let's just follow that logic.
00:28:47.680 She's calling FDR a fascist because Trump is holding illegal aliens in the same place that FDR held Japanese Americans.
00:28:55.080 And that place is a concentration camp, according to AOC.
00:28:59.000 So presidents that do this are fascists.
00:29:01.860 So FDR is a fascist.
00:29:03.500 So AOC probably hates FDR, right?
00:29:05.980 Isn't that right?
00:29:07.300 When we talk about what I want in a 2020 candidate, I want a 2020 candidate that says we can do these things.
00:29:15.100 We can be audacious.
00:29:16.600 I think we need, in order to overcome this moment, we need to return to our FDR roots as a party.
00:29:22.820 That's what I believe.
00:29:23.740 So FDR is a fascist, and I don't use that word lightly.
00:29:28.900 He's really, really a fascist because of all the fascist things he did, and therefore we need to return to our FDR policies.
00:29:35.200 And Donald Trump is just like FDR, so I guess AOC is now endorsing FDR, or Donald Trump, rather, and FDR.
00:29:40.960 Something like that.
00:29:42.020 Is that right?
00:29:42.540 Did AOC just endorse Donald Trump?
00:29:44.360 I don't think so.
00:29:45.240 She has no coherence to her thought.
00:29:49.320 Now I'm starting to talk like her.
00:29:50.920 She has no coherence to her thought.
00:29:52.620 She's not following ideas to their logical conclusions.
00:29:56.360 She's just saying slogans.
00:29:59.120 And this is what leftist politics have devolved down to, and new polls are showing this is not looking very good for her.
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00:30:55.860 So obviously, the AOC idea here that these are concentration camps on the order of Japanese internment or the Holocaust is ridiculous.
00:31:17.160 The way you know it's ridiculous is they keep coming in, 3,000 of them a day.
00:31:20.400 3,000 Jews a day weren't pouring into Nazi Germany.
00:31:25.820 3,000 Japanese people a day weren't applying to become American citizens so that they could go to concentration camps.
00:31:32.040 But people are pouring into this country every day because they're obviously not concentration camps.
00:31:36.860 And on the question of concentration camps, what does AOC suggest we do?
00:31:42.080 I mean, I'm assuming she would call the prisons that you can hold illegal aliens in concentration camps.
00:31:48.720 I'm assuming she would call the HHS facilities where younger illegal aliens are receiving care.
00:31:54.200 She would call them concentration camps.
00:31:55.780 She's using that phrase to convince you that anything other than blanket amnesty and open borders is wicked, it's evil, it's like the Holocaust.
00:32:06.480 What does AOC think should happen to illegal aliens who come here?
00:32:09.500 If you come into this country illegally and you break the law and you shouldn't be here, the federal government has to do something with you.
00:32:17.080 But she's saying it's immoral to deport people.
00:32:20.600 She's saying it's immoral and Nazi-esque to hold people in custody.
00:32:25.540 The only other option is to let them come in and have no consequences.
00:32:29.920 And so we have no immigration law.
00:32:31.500 The voters who voted in representatives to give them certain immigration laws, they can be damned.
00:32:39.460 The people who have established this rule of law in the country, they can be damned.
00:32:44.220 The people who waited in line from other countries, not just El Salvador and Guatemala and Honduras, but from countries in Africa or East Asia or South Asia, those people, they can be damned.
00:32:53.620 Doesn't matter.
00:32:54.360 They don't matter at all.
00:32:55.880 All that matters is flooding the country with a very specific group of illegal aliens whose children are more likely to vote for Democrats.
00:33:02.320 That's what AOC is saying.
00:33:03.560 And if you disagree with that, you're a Nazi.
00:33:05.760 And obviously this is horrifically offensive to descendants of Hitler's victims and victims of the Holocaust.
00:33:13.800 It's horrifically offensive to half of AOC's countrymen.
00:33:17.440 But she doesn't care.
00:33:18.400 There's no coherence, you know, as we just did.
00:33:21.240 If you follow her ideas to their logical conclusion, they don't make any sense, but that doesn't matter.
00:33:25.460 If she can whip up a fury, an envy, a mass hatred and disdain from one half of the country to the other half of the country, she has achieved her goal.
00:33:39.580 This might backfire.
00:33:40.780 A new poll suggests people are sick of her.
00:33:42.960 There is a poll in her district, New York's 14th Congressional District, shows her favorability rating is down to 21%.
00:33:50.740 Just one in five people view her favorably.
00:33:53.580 Her unfavorable rating is up to 51%.
00:33:56.500 11% of people in the district, according to this poll, believe she has their best interests in mind.
00:34:02.680 Only 13%, according to this poll, would vote to re-elect her.
00:34:06.480 And 33% are committed to voting against her in 2020.
00:34:10.760 So that's the bad news for AOC.
00:34:14.080 The good news for AOC is I don't buy this survey at all.
00:34:16.660 This is a door-to-door survey of registered voters conducted by a group called Stop the AOC Pack, which I admire their goals, but I just don't buy it.
00:34:27.480 First of all, door-to-door survey is pretty weak.
00:34:30.020 It's obviously a group that despises her and would benefit from this kind of negative information being put out about her.
00:34:38.100 However, very often people use polls not to report what people are thinking, not to report on public opinion, but to shape public opinion.
00:34:48.720 They're called push polls.
00:34:50.220 You're pushing people to, or encouraging people in the wording of the questions to voice a certain opinion, then you're using that opinion broadly to influence the broader public's opinion.
00:35:00.440 According to a more legitimate or more credible poll from April, the Siena polling, AOC's favorables are not 21%, they're 52%, compared to 33% unfavorable.
00:35:12.080 61% of Democrats are willing to support her in 2020.
00:35:15.280 This is already after the Amazon decision.
00:35:17.820 So the least popular thing that she did, which was chasing Amazon and 25,000 high-paying jobs out of her district and around her district.
00:35:24.900 That's already being factored into that Siena poll from April.
00:35:29.020 Do we really think that in two months, her numbers have just completely cratered by more than 50%?
00:35:34.880 I don't think so.
00:35:36.400 New York's 14th congressional district is extraordinarily Democrat.
00:35:40.200 It's a D plus 29 district.
00:35:42.100 It has six Democrats for every one Republican.
00:35:45.580 The only time in the last century that it went Republican was in 1946.
00:35:48.860 Probably she's safe on the right.
00:35:52.320 Probably.
00:35:52.800 I don't know.
00:35:53.260 I mean, she is uniquely unpopular and she's made herself uniquely a national figure.
00:35:59.400 So maybe some Republican campaign could do something.
00:36:02.320 Who knows?
00:36:02.880 Never say never in politics.
00:36:04.880 She's also very vulnerable from the left.
00:36:07.320 If a Democrat wanted to primary her, I think that Democrat would be very successful.
00:36:11.500 So that's a poll that I think is not very credible and probably doesn't matter.
00:36:15.000 Now, let's turn to a poll that I think is more credible and does matter.
00:36:19.580 I'm very skeptical of presidential polls this far out, specifically national polls.
00:36:24.920 However, the state polls are a lot better because they're more specific.
00:36:28.780 They have more of a bearing on the actual presidential election.
00:36:32.180 Presidents aren't elected by a popular vote, no matter how much Hillary Clinton is in a straight
00:36:36.380 jacket in the woods of Chappaqua seems to insist that they are.
00:36:40.700 The presidential elections are decided by states, by the electoral college.
00:36:45.000 A new poll out spells a lot of trouble for Joe Biden.
00:36:47.980 This is a firehouse optimist poll shows Donald Trump is surging in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin
00:36:53.640 battleground states and cutting into Biden's lead in Michigan.
00:36:58.280 There's a statistical dead heat in Michigan.
00:37:01.700 So Biden had an eight point lead in March in Pennsylvania.
00:37:07.560 Now that has dropped to just a one point lead.
00:37:10.300 So statistically a tie.
00:37:11.380 Biden had a 12 point lead in March in Wisconsin.
00:37:14.820 That has dropped down to a six point lead.
00:37:17.440 So he's still got a lead, but not by a lot.
00:37:20.580 He's lost 50% of that lead.
00:37:23.520 And in March, Trump and Biden were tied in Michigan.
00:37:29.180 And now they are statistically still tied.
00:37:32.160 The poll puts Biden up at three points, but statistically speaking, there's really little
00:37:36.840 difference.
00:37:38.160 Now, I don't care about this poll for the general election that we are so far away from the general
00:37:42.780 election that I don't think these polls really matter now.
00:37:44.800 Now, what this does matter for is the Democrat primary, because Joe Biden's only claim to
00:37:50.800 getting that nomination is that he can beat Donald Trump in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and
00:37:55.180 Wisconsin.
00:37:55.780 That's the only reason that Democrat voters have to nominate him.
00:38:00.440 He is old.
00:38:01.540 He is white.
00:38:02.640 He is male.
00:38:03.760 He is relatively moderate in a leftist party.
00:38:06.440 He is a gaffe prone.
00:38:07.840 He is a two time loser.
00:38:09.580 He is an admitted plagiarist.
00:38:11.140 He's an admitted liar, a frequent liar, and he's a creepy hair sniffer.
00:38:14.240 There is no reason for Democrats to nominate yesterday's news or 30 years ago's news.
00:38:21.760 The guy's been in office for like 50 years.
00:38:24.200 What has he accomplished?
00:38:25.360 Very little.
00:38:26.220 The one thing he's accomplished was the 1994 crime bill, and the Democrats absolutely hate
00:38:30.540 that.
00:38:31.420 So why nominate him?
00:38:33.760 They can nominate him because he can beat Donald Trump, except if he can't beat Donald
00:38:38.400 Trump, there's no reason.
00:38:40.980 He's already slipping.
00:38:41.920 He's already slipping before the first Democrat debate.
00:38:44.240 That's really bad news, and Joe should be very, very worried right now.
00:38:48.340 We should also, all of us, be worried because OJ Simpson is loose.
00:38:52.420 The juice is loose, and he is taking Twitter by storm.
00:38:57.980 OJ has got some scores to settle, and here is how he describes it.
00:39:02.540 Hello, Twitter world.
00:39:03.760 This is yours truly.
00:39:05.140 You know, this is my first venture into the social media world, and it's amazing, you know,
00:39:11.400 especially how quickly they can put up counterfeit sites.
00:39:14.900 Anyway, we'll deal with that.
00:39:16.820 We'll deal with that.
00:39:18.060 The hell is that supposed to mean?
00:39:19.600 When OJ Simpson says we'll deal with something, that's very scary.
00:39:23.440 He's very upset because, obviously, whenever anybody goes on Twitter, there are like a million
00:39:30.140 fake Twitter accounts that pop up.
00:39:32.000 So some of them are very charming.
00:39:33.580 I don't know if you've been following me or the other Daily Wire guys on Twitter, but there's
00:39:38.420 a Twitter account for my pet goldfish.
00:39:41.480 There's a Twitter account, I think, for my glasses.
00:39:43.720 I saw one for my contact lenses.
00:39:46.640 I saw, they just, like, all of these go on and on.
00:39:49.440 There's one for Jeremy Boring's verified checkmark that he doesn't have.
00:39:53.760 There's one for Drew's beard.
00:39:54.980 I mean, there's one for Ben's yarmulke.
00:39:56.540 Just all of these, like, fun sites.
00:39:58.420 So for OJ, obviously, immediately, they were just like, OJ Simpson's knife, killer OJ, all
00:40:05.220 these OJ things.
00:40:06.740 And allegedly, we don't know for sure, one of these accounts is claiming that OJ Simpson
00:40:12.700 is sending him threatening messages on Twitter DMs.
00:40:16.140 Here is one of those accounts, killer OJ, reading what he says are private messages from
00:40:22.760 the real OJ Simpson account, and he shows it on the screen within a day or two of OJ getting
00:40:28.740 on Twitter.
00:40:29.600 So OJ DMs me again.
00:40:34.360 Okay, look, check this out.
00:40:36.220 It's his actual account.
00:40:37.680 I'm going to click it here in a minute and show you guys.
00:40:40.820 He continues with the other DM.
00:40:42.500 He goes, think I'm playing mother f***er.
00:40:45.320 And I go, Sally, nope.
00:40:47.580 Look, if you're a little, look, if my little Twitter account with 300 followers bugs you
00:40:52.600 that much, then man, you weak as f***er.
00:40:57.100 Okay, so I only got 351 followers.
00:41:01.520 This dude's tripping.
00:41:02.380 And I go, dude, there are others that literally have more followers than me and more convincing
00:41:25.480 than mine left my mouth.
00:41:26.800 So if you're going to, you're going to cut me.
00:41:30.360 Awesome.
00:41:30.860 Is that what you said to Nicole?
00:41:33.460 And I guess that f***er made him go on a f***ing rage with all knife emojis.
00:41:38.700 And he goes, you next.
00:41:40.660 He's sending all these threatening tweets.
00:41:43.220 I mean, OJ did say in a video there are these fake sites and we're going to take care of
00:41:46.960 them.
00:41:47.240 So I wouldn't be surprised at all.
00:41:48.920 OJ is a complete maniac who murdered his wife and her friend.
00:41:51.700 The reason this matters is not because he's a complete wacko maniac murderer, though that,
00:41:58.540 I mean, I guess that's important to the story.
00:42:00.540 It's because the mainstream media, specifically the Washington Post, are trying to draw some
00:42:06.360 grand racial lesson about America's racism out of our rejection of OJ Simpson.
00:42:11.920 Just to remind you, just to catch you up in case you missed OJ the first time around.
00:42:16.560 He got off in the criminal trial.
00:42:18.740 He was acquitted.
00:42:19.700 He lost in the civil trial.
00:42:21.160 So in the civil trial, they found him guilty of the deaths of Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown,
00:42:26.880 his ex-wife.
00:42:28.740 Why did he get off in the criminal trial?
00:42:30.560 It's because of race relations in 1994.
00:42:33.180 It's because at that time, and don't take my word for it, a former OJ juror, Carrie
00:42:38.320 Bess, says the reason OJ got off is because in 1992, a black man named Rodney King was
00:42:43.920 beaten by the LAPD and the cops who beat him got acquitted and this was racial payback for
00:42:49.100 that.
00:42:49.300 That's what the former OJ juror said.
00:42:51.420 That's how it was covered at the time.
00:42:52.620 He lost the civil trial in 1997 because he obviously murdered his wife and her friend.
00:42:58.740 And again, don't take my word for it.
00:43:00.520 He actually admitted this in 2006.
00:43:02.860 He wrote a book called If I Did It, in which he discusses how he hypothetically would have
00:43:07.260 killed his wife and her friend.
00:43:08.500 And then he did an interview on Fox, which never aired because there was a lot of blowback
00:43:12.240 and, and they thought it would be too, too hot to air for viewers.
00:43:17.040 But it finally leaked last year in which OJ admits what he did.
00:43:21.060 Here he is.
00:43:21.420 And this guy kind of got into a karate thing.
00:43:26.500 And I said, well, you think you can kick my ass?
00:43:28.540 And I remember I grabbed a knife.
00:43:30.320 I do remember that portion, taking a knife from Charlie.
00:43:33.520 And to be honest, after that, I don't remember.
00:43:36.840 Except I'm standing there and there's all kind of stuff around and, um, um.
00:43:44.180 What kind of stuff?
00:43:45.520 Blood and stuff around.
00:43:46.520 Okay, so he's a complete wacko, remorseless, psychopath murderer, right?
00:43:57.780 Obviously, he's, he's, he's actually admitted it.
00:44:00.300 What does the Washington Post draw from this lesson?
00:44:03.580 This is the headline they ran.
00:44:05.200 A guy named Philip Cunningham, quote,
00:44:08.040 25 years ago, OJ Simpson showed white Americans just how conditional their comfort with black
00:44:14.340 athletes was the condition apparently was that you not murder your wife and her friend.
00:44:20.080 That's the condition.
00:44:21.360 So he goes on, he talks about the famous car chase in the, in the white Bronco where OJ
00:44:25.660 Simpson was driving away from the authorities.
00:44:28.700 And he writes, quote, the car chase coming in the middle of the fifth game of the NBA finals
00:44:32.900 cast a brief pall on what had been a watershed moment for black athletes to suggest that Simpson
00:44:38.040 overshadowed a decade's worth of goodwill toward black athletes would be an overstatement.
00:44:42.180 But Simpson, arguably a major source of this goodwill, certainly made clear the conditions
00:44:46.800 that white Americans put on their goodwill, even as the nation's greatest black athletes
00:44:51.060 continued to thrill and amaze.
00:44:54.280 The conditions.
00:44:55.740 Don't kill your wife.
00:44:56.820 He goes on, quote, in the 1960s, the general perception of black athletes had been that
00:45:02.080 they were too political, too political.
00:45:04.320 In the 1970s, it was that they were too selfish and flamboyant.
00:45:07.440 The 1980s, though, would prove to be a boon for black athletes willing to cultivate goodwill
00:45:13.380 among white audiences.
00:45:14.860 This growth was spurred by Michael Jordan.
00:45:17.000 As the NBA fought to salvage its tarnished reputation, it positioned Jordan as a hardworking,
00:45:22.240 naturally gifted, and family-oriented athlete, while Nike and his other sponsors presented
00:45:27.100 him as a man actually capable of flying.
00:45:30.020 So let's just assume the premise is true, that in the 60s, white America viewed black
00:45:36.400 athletes as too political, and in the 70s, as too flamboyant and selfish.
00:45:40.320 Even if this premise is true, certainly it makes sense that people prefer hardworking,
00:45:47.500 family-oriented athletes to showboaters and anti-American political activists who are protesting
00:45:53.940 American soldiers and American troops.
00:45:56.840 This isn't a black or a white thing.
00:45:58.260 That's just an American thing.
00:45:59.560 Of course we would prefer athletes who seem like good people and who are well-adjusted
00:46:04.180 and who are good athletes to people who openly talk about how they hate the country or how
00:46:08.840 they're showboating and selfish.
00:46:10.160 True across the board, not racial thing.
00:46:12.580 Then it goes on, quote,
00:46:13.440 The means by which Simpson won over America are antiquated, especially in an era in which
00:46:18.000 black athletes such as Colin Kaepernick and LeBron James not only have embraced social
00:46:21.800 justice, but also have convinced their leagues and sponsors to do so as well.
00:46:27.160 The means by which Simpson won over America is antiquated.
00:46:30.600 No, it's not.
00:46:31.380 And this is the point.
00:46:32.240 This is what Washington Post wants to say.
00:46:33.980 They say, yeah, they turned on OJ.
00:46:35.860 OJ thought, he, OJ famously said, they asked him why he wasn't involved in more racial and black
00:46:40.900 causes.
00:46:41.360 He said, I'm not black, I'm OJ.
00:46:43.280 It's a beautiful statement.
00:46:44.260 He said, I'm, I'm an American.
00:46:46.700 I'm my own man.
00:46:47.660 I'm not just going to be pigeonholed into whatever little racial group or political group you
00:46:51.700 want to put me.
00:46:52.200 I'm bigger than that.
00:46:53.880 And what the Washington Post wants to say is, see, and they turned on OJ.
00:46:58.260 That's why the only way, the only way that black athletes can behave now is by embracing
00:47:03.540 radical leftist politics like Colin Kaepernick.
00:47:05.860 It's the only way.
00:47:07.200 No, it isn't the only way.
00:47:08.320 You can be hardworking.
00:47:09.360 You can be family oriented.
00:47:10.420 You can be pro-America.
00:47:11.840 You can just focus on athletes and not spat your mouth out on, on politics.
00:47:15.700 And America will embrace you so long as you don't murder your wife and her friend.
00:47:20.260 That's the conclusion.
00:47:21.240 This is one of the stupidest pieces I've seen in the Washington Post in a long time, which
00:47:24.560 is obviously saying quite a lot, but that's where we are.
00:47:27.540 A lot more to get to today, but unfortunately we don't have time.
00:47:31.200 So we'll get to it tomorrow.
00:47:32.200 We'll get to, I'll tease it.
00:47:33.700 Alex Jones is now being accused of having kiddie porn in emails that he sent to the lawyers
00:47:40.820 of Sandy Hook victims' parents.
00:47:42.500 Can't make this stuff up.
00:47:45.020 We will get to that story tomorrow though.
00:47:47.560 In the meantime, I'm Michael Knowles.
00:47:48.820 This is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:47:49.660 I'll see you then.
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