The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 373 - Los Democrats Son Muy Estúpidos

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00:00:30.000 Hola, mamacitas. 1.00

00:00:32.000 Democrats kicked off last night's presidential primary debate with a novel strategy.

00:00:37.260 They started randomly speaking in Spanish throughout the whole thing.

00:00:41.320 We will examine how los Democrats got so muy estúpidos.

00:00:45.860 Then my pal Jamil Giovanni stops by to discuss how young men get radicalized.

00:00:50.880 And finally, the mailbag.

00:00:52.420 Yo soy Michael Knowles y thiso iso el Michael Knowles show-o.

00:01:00.000 Yo quiero Taco Bell.

00:01:07.260 That's basically my main takeaway from last night's Democratic debate is that yo quiero Taco Bell.

00:01:13.380 So the debate was broadcast on NBC.

00:01:17.300 And I'm sitting there with sweet little Lisa.

00:01:18.820 We're watching it.

00:01:19.540 And I thought I may have been watching it on Telemundo because, for some reason,

00:01:25.500 these candidates all seem to be speaking in Spanish.

00:01:28.040 Here's a little taste.

00:01:28.800 Me llamo Julián Castro y estoy postulando por presidente de los Estados Unidos.

00:01:34.720 Necesitamos incluir cada persona en el éxito de esta economía.

00:01:40.400 Pero si queremos hacer eso, necesitamos incluir cada persona en nuestra democracia.

00:01:47.180 Cada votante necesitamos la representación y cada voz necesitamos escuchar.

00:01:53.800 So if you couldn't see that, there's this moment when Beto, he's the first one, first question.

00:02:10.240 Beto starts speaking in Spanish randomly for no reason.

00:02:13.260 And there's a cutaway and you see Cory Booker looking at him like, dude, are you actually pandering more than I am?

00:02:22.500 Are you actually being more disingenuous than I, Cory Booker, am being?

00:02:26.880 And it was probably the only genuine thing I've ever seen out of Cory Booker.

00:02:30.960 And then within, I don't know, 10 minutes or something, Cory Booker starts doing it too.

00:02:36.020 It was this moment of like Beto saying, hey, hey, bro, nobody can butcher the Spanish language better than I can.

00:02:41.620 And then Booker's there like, hold my pupusa.

00:02:43.800 And then he just starts speaking in broken Spanish.

00:02:46.040 It was, it was very hilarious to watch.

00:02:48.680 But it wasn't just the candidates.

00:02:50.280 Even the moderator got in on all the Spanish fun.

00:02:54.540 Congresista, I'm sorry.

00:02:57.280 Congresista O'Rourke, ¿qué haría usted en el primer día, si usted es presidente, sobre esta realidad que está ocurriendo?

00:03:03.580 What would you do, Congressman, day one at the White House?

00:03:07.080 Vamos a tratar cada persona con el respeto y dignidad que merecen como humanos.

00:03:15.580 Oh, Beto O'Rourke's like the guy who got called on by teacher, but he didn't do the homework.

00:03:20.400 So he's, he's pretending to speak Spanish from the first question.

00:03:24.100 Then this moderator, Jose Diaz-Balart, just starts speaking to him in Spanish.

00:03:29.460 And Beto O'Rourke basically just responds, ¿dónde está la biblioteca?

00:03:35.180 ¿Dónde?

00:03:35.860 He uses the word, I wasn't listening to all the Spanish because I don't speak Spanish.

00:03:39.560 And I've never been more happy that I don't speak Spanish than when I was watching last night's debate.

00:03:44.140 But halfway through, he doesn't remember the word for medicine, which I believe is medicina.

00:03:48.140 So he's just like, oh, yeah, si, yo quiero la medicina, yeah.

00:03:53.380 And it's just really, really pathetic.

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00:05:28.620 This was a mess, this Spanish thing. 1.00

00:05:34.880 I remember, I was working on the John Huntsman campaign in 2012.

00:05:38.300 I love John Huntsman.

00:05:39.200 He's the current ambassador to Russia.

00:05:41.380 Thought he was a terrific governor of Utah.

00:05:43.040 Thought he was a great ambassador.

00:05:44.100 Thought he was a great presidential candidate.

00:05:45.420 He made a very strategically poor decision during one debate where he started speaking in Mandarin Chinese.

00:05:52.880 And the idea here was the same thing that these guys were trying to do.

00:05:55.900 They want to show that they can speak this language.

00:05:58.940 If China is going to be the big threat and you can speak Chinese, that gives you a lot of credibility. 0.98

00:06:02.600 If America is becoming multilingual, if America's got all these Spanish-speaking immigrants coming in, 0.99

00:06:07.880 it's very impressive if you, too, can speak Spanish.

00:06:11.240 It doesn't work.

00:06:12.680 People don't like it.

00:06:14.880 Especially in these early primary states.

00:06:17.140 Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina.

00:06:19.260 You think those guys are impressed that you speak Spanish?

00:06:22.600 None of them speak Spanish.

00:06:23.760 Nobody in those states speaks Spanish.

00:06:25.720 Very bad idea.

00:06:27.600 It's very offensive.

00:06:28.680 I found this to be the most offensive part of the debate last night.

00:06:32.600 They were talking about basically having post-birth abortion.

00:06:35.200 They were talking about abortion at any time during pregnancy on demand.

00:06:38.260 They were talking about socialism.

00:06:39.280 They were talking about getting rid of private health care.

00:06:41.600 And I found the most offensive part of it to be this stupid Spanish pandering. 1.00

00:06:48.080 This is America.

00:06:50.060 We speak English in America.

00:06:53.440 That's it.

00:06:54.860 There is very little that unites us as a country anymore.

00:06:57.560 Most of us don't share our religion.

00:07:00.180 Most of us don't share common experiences.

00:07:01.840 We don't share a common culture.

00:07:03.440 We don't all go watch the same TV shows, read the same books, or go to the same movies.

00:07:07.280 We have very little bit uniting us.

00:07:08.980 If we don't speak the same language, then we have basically nothing that unites us anymore.

00:07:15.520 I think it's great to speak other languages.

00:07:17.600 I speak other languages.

00:07:19.540 I studied Italian in school.

00:07:22.280 I studied Italian literature.

00:07:23.480 When I go to Italy, I speak Italian.

00:07:25.300 I get along in Italian.

00:07:29.520 When you go to Rome, do what the Romans do. 1.00

00:07:33.460 When I'm in America, I don't speak Italian all the time.

00:07:37.320 Even if I go to an Italian restaurant, I don't sit there and say,

00:07:41.040 okay, I'll have the wine, and I'll have the appetizer, and I will have...

00:07:44.580 No, I don't do that, because that's weird, because you're in America.

00:07:53.440 I'll say, I'll have the spaghetti alla carbonara, please.

00:07:56.640 Because I'm...

00:07:57.580 We speak English in America.

00:07:58.900 This is America.

00:08:00.700 Now, the Democrats, they don't like America.

00:08:02.620 They don't like American traditions. 0.89

00:08:04.920 That's not even a...

00:08:05.940 I don't think that's an exaggeration anymore.

00:08:08.300 They say they want to fundamentally transform the country.

00:08:10.840 You don't want to fundamentally transform things that you like.

00:08:13.980 You want to fundamentally transform things that you don't like.

00:08:17.080 And that was Barack Obama, one of his campaign platforms,

00:08:20.020 one of the pillars of his campaign.

00:08:23.760 One of the reasons that everyone is anxious about illegal immigration

00:08:26.820 is because they fear that they're going to lose the country.

00:08:29.000 They fear that the country is going to be totally unrecognizable afterward.

00:08:33.600 I don't think this is going to play well in Peoria,

00:08:35.700 and worse for them, I don't think it's going to play well in early,

00:08:37.680 primary states.

00:08:39.400 Now, you'll notice that the leader of the pack last night, Elizabeth Warren, 0.52

00:08:43.720 she didn't speak Spanish because she understood this.

00:08:46.560 She didn't even speak Navajo,

00:08:48.320 and I believe that's her native language, she said.

00:08:50.500 Beyond all the crazy Spanish, 1.00

00:08:53.240 the Democrats were running very far left.

00:08:55.540 Liz Warren, who went in there as the kind of top of that pack 1.00

00:08:58.660 in last night's debate,

00:09:00.380 she ran about as far left as she could.

00:09:03.580 She actually said

00:09:05.280 she wouldn't put any limits

00:09:07.640 on abortion.

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00:11:07.780 So they ran

00:11:08.760 very far to the left.

00:11:10.540 Here is Liz Warren

00:11:11.900 being asked,

00:11:12.600 would you put

00:11:13.620 any limits

00:11:15.400 on abortion? 0.97

00:11:16.640 Here's her answer.

00:11:18.080 Senator Warren,

00:11:18.620 would you put limits on,

00:11:19.660 any limits on abortion?

00:11:22.040 I would make certain

00:11:23.160 that every woman

00:11:24.220 has access

00:11:25.280 to the full range

00:11:27.420 of reproductive

00:11:28.120 health care services

00:11:29.320 and that includes

00:11:30.400 birth control,

00:11:31.280 it includes abortion.

00:11:32.960 So, no.

00:11:34.180 The answer is no.

00:11:35.000 I wouldn't put any limits

00:11:35.840 on it whatsoever.

00:11:37.380 Only 6% of Americans,

00:11:39.200 according to recent polls,

00:11:40.660 believe there should be

00:11:41.400 no limits on abortion

00:11:42.340 whatsoever.

00:11:43.200 94% of Americans

00:11:44.500 think there should be

00:11:45.220 some limits on abortion.

00:11:47.080 But no one on that stage

00:11:48.580 is going to say

00:11:49.140 that there should be

00:11:49.660 limits on abortion.

00:11:50.460 Liz Warren,

00:11:51.200 who's leading that pack,

00:11:52.760 she's not the top of the pack

00:11:53.720 in the whole field,

00:11:54.900 but of the candidates

00:11:55.700 who were at that debate

00:11:56.440 last night,

00:11:57.020 she is polling at the top.

00:11:58.900 She says no limits whatsoever.

00:12:01.640 So how are you going

00:12:02.120 to outwoke somebody

00:12:03.220 if they're already saying

00:12:05.400 no limits,

00:12:06.960 abortion on demand,

00:12:08.000 without apology

00:12:08.660 at any time?

00:12:10.380 Julian Castro

00:12:11.140 figured out a way.

00:12:12.000 He figured out

00:12:12.500 the one way to outwoke her 0.91

00:12:13.620 and that is by

00:12:14.660 offering to extend

00:12:16.580 abortion rights,

00:12:17.720 not just to women,

00:12:19.500 but to men.

00:12:20.060 I don't believe only

00:12:21.300 in reproductive freedom,

00:12:23.820 I believe in

00:12:24.280 reproductive justice. 0.99

00:12:27.000 And, you know,

00:12:28.580 what that means

00:12:29.340 is that just because

00:12:30.620 a woman,

00:12:31.960 or let's also not forget,

00:12:33.780 someone in the trans community,

00:12:35.580 a trans female,

00:12:37.700 is poor,

00:12:39.220 doesn't mean they shouldn't

00:12:40.280 have the right to exercise

00:12:41.760 that right to choose.

00:12:43.200 And so I absolutely would

00:12:44.520 cover the right

00:12:45.400 to have an abortion.

00:12:48.180 What?

00:12:49.040 What was that?

00:12:49.940 So trans women, 1.00

00:12:51.940 this is just how

00:12:52.900 they describe it.

00:12:53.500 A trans woman is a man, 1.00

00:12:55.120 a biological man,

00:12:56.280 who dresses up like a woman 0.98

00:12:58.000 or thinks he's a woman

00:12:58.940 or wants to be a woman. 0.96

00:13:00.440 So he would extend

00:13:01.520 abortion rights

00:13:02.440 to biological men.

00:13:05.400 That's very woke.

00:13:06.880 Also, I love his euphemism.

00:13:08.640 This is a new one.

00:13:09.240 I've never heard of it.

00:13:10.060 I wouldn't just have

00:13:10.900 reproductive freedom.

00:13:11.760 I'd have reproductive justice. 0.98

00:13:15.140 He never describes

00:13:15.900 what the difference is

00:13:16.800 because they're just both

00:13:18.260 completely meaningless words.

00:13:19.860 But what's most ironic

00:13:21.180 about reproductive justice

00:13:22.340 is he's describing

00:13:23.720 a way to stop reproduction

00:13:26.420 by unjustly killing someone.

00:13:30.080 So it's not only

00:13:31.780 the opposite of reproduction,

00:13:33.240 it's also the opposite

00:13:34.140 of justice.

00:13:34.900 It's exactly the opposite

00:13:35.960 of what he's saying it is.

00:13:39.380 Now, obviously,

00:13:40.980 Cory Booker

00:13:41.580 Cory Booker

00:13:42.620 is not going to let

00:13:43.180 Julian Castro hog

00:13:44.340 all of that woke trans space.

00:13:46.480 It's like, all right,

00:13:47.160 you're going to speak Spanish?

00:13:48.020 I'll speak Spanish.

00:13:48.800 You're going to talk about trans?

00:13:50.120 Okay, I'm going to one-up you.

00:13:51.240 I'm going to get even woker.

00:13:52.480 And Cory Booker

00:13:53.280 got down to the real issues

00:13:54.960 that Americans care about.

00:13:56.660 The issue that's at the top

00:13:57.640 of all of our minds.

00:13:59.380 African American

00:14:00.400 trans Americans, finally.

00:14:03.140 Look, civil rights

00:14:04.740 is some place to begin.

00:14:06.140 But in the African American 0.95

00:14:07.000 civil rights community,

00:14:08.120 another place to focus on

00:14:09.160 was to stop the lynching

00:14:10.080 of African Americans.

00:14:11.180 We do not talk enough

00:14:12.840 about trans Americans,

00:14:15.180 especially African American

00:14:16.440 trans Americans.

00:14:18.120 Everyone had just been talking

00:14:19.560 about issues like immigration

00:14:20.760 or the economy or war.

00:14:23.060 No.

00:14:24.120 We need to talk about

00:14:25.560 the statistically

00:14:26.720 estimated

00:14:28.560 0.3,

00:14:31.360 0.036%

00:14:34.180 of the population

00:14:34.920 who are African American

00:14:36.340 trans Americans

00:14:37.120 because African Americans

00:14:38.360 are about 12-13%

00:14:39.360 of the population.

00:14:40.880 Transgender people,

00:14:41.680 people who are confused

00:14:42.340 about their gender,

00:14:43.360 are 0.3%

00:14:44.420 of the population.

00:14:45.220 So you're about

00:14:45.600 0.036%

00:14:48.540 of the population.

00:14:49.360 That is how you're going to win

00:14:50.280 the presidential election.

00:14:51.960 I also wondered

00:14:53.240 if African American

00:14:54.340 trans Americans

00:14:55.060 are a contradiction in terms

00:14:56.200 because if you've got the

00:14:58.100 you've got the American there,

00:15:00.060 the African American,

00:15:00.940 but then the trans American,

00:15:02.300 do the Americans,

00:15:03.460 therefore,

00:15:03.860 because of the trans, 0.93

00:15:04.720 cancel each other out?

00:15:05.680 So then you're just left

00:15:06.840 with trans Africans,

00:15:08.580 which I believe

00:15:09.140 is Rachel Dolezal.

00:15:10.320 And it is about time

00:15:11.440 that our presidential candidates

00:15:12.900 finally get some justice

00:15:14.560 for Rachel Dolezal.

00:15:16.800 My favorite candidate

00:15:17.860 of the night

00:15:18.360 was Tim Ryan.

00:15:20.380 Who's Tim Ryan?

00:15:21.280 I don't know.

00:15:22.060 Do you know?

00:15:22.500 No, nobody knows.

00:15:23.260 Nobody still knows

00:15:23.980 even though he was

00:15:24.480 at this debate.

00:15:25.360 He is an Ohio congressman.

00:15:27.820 I take it

00:15:28.400 because I looked it up

00:15:29.100 on Wikipedia afterwards.

00:15:30.640 He is pathetic

00:15:32.460 in the true sense.

00:15:33.940 I don't mean

00:15:34.520 to make fun of him.

00:15:35.160 I don't mean he's pitiful.

00:15:36.360 I mean, he's pathetic.

00:15:37.720 He evokes pathos.

00:15:39.580 You just,

00:15:40.060 you really feel for the guy.

00:15:41.920 You have all the feels.

00:15:43.520 He is the only person

00:15:44.480 on that stage

00:15:45.160 who did not come across

00:15:46.580 as a completely

00:15:47.700 unctuous psychopath.

00:15:49.740 You actually kind of

00:15:50.680 felt bad for him.

00:15:51.960 And unfortunately,

00:15:52.780 one of the reasons

00:15:53.460 you felt bad for him

00:15:54.340 is because Tulsi Gabbard

00:15:55.760 just absolutely

00:15:57.220 destroyed his life

00:15:58.820 in about 30 seconds.

00:16:00.100 Here she is.

00:16:00.800 You know what?

00:16:01.240 You felt like she was

00:16:02.500 refunding you

00:16:02.940 to get 30 seconds.

00:16:03.840 You're a very good man.

00:16:04.220 I appreciate that.

00:16:04.960 I hear what you're saying.

00:16:06.140 I would just say,

00:16:06.940 I don't want to be engaged.

00:16:08.940 I wish we were spending

00:16:09.860 all this money

00:16:10.580 in places that I've represented

00:16:12.340 that have been

00:16:12.860 completely forgotten

00:16:13.800 and we were rebuilding.

00:16:15.140 But the reality of it is

00:16:16.320 if the United States

00:16:17.220 isn't engaged,

00:16:18.480 the Taliban will grow 0.99

00:16:19.900 and they won't have

00:16:21.620 bigger, bolder

00:16:23.720 terrorist acts.

00:16:25.340 We have got to have

00:16:26.280 some present there.

00:16:27.280 The Taliban was there 0.97

00:16:28.900 long before we came in.

00:16:30.340 They'll be there

00:16:31.040 long before we leave.

00:16:32.540 We cannot keep

00:16:33.800 U.S. troops

00:16:34.380 deploying to Afghanistan

00:16:36.020 thinking that we're

00:16:37.000 going to somehow

00:16:37.800 squash this Taliban 1.00

00:16:39.160 that has been there

00:16:40.500 that every other country

00:16:41.740 that's tried has failed.

00:16:42.460 I didn't say squash them.

00:16:43.580 When we weren't in there,

00:16:44.760 they started flying planes

00:16:45.980 into our buildings.

00:16:47.260 So I'm just saying

00:16:48.020 right now,

00:16:48.840 we have an obligation.

00:16:49.320 The Taliban didn't attack us 1.00

00:16:50.280 on 9-11.

00:16:51.120 Al-Qaeda did. 0.98

00:16:51.860 Well, I understand.

00:16:52.800 Al-Qaeda attacked

00:16:53.460 the side of 9-11.

00:16:54.380 I understand.

00:16:54.760 That's why I and so many

00:16:56.140 other people joined

00:16:57.040 the military to go

00:16:58.060 after Al-Qaeda,

00:16:59.160 not the Taliban.

00:17:00.520 The Taliban was protecting 1.00

00:17:02.780 those people who were

00:17:04.340 plotting against us.

00:17:06.140 Okay.

00:17:06.580 He got the question

00:17:07.600 sort of right at the end.

00:17:08.840 He said,

00:17:09.080 no, the Taliban were

00:17:09.820 harboring the Al-Qaeda 0.81

00:17:11.200 terrorists and we don't

00:17:12.020 make a distinction

00:17:12.720 between those two.

00:17:13.880 But she just ate his lunch

00:17:15.520 and he kind of,

00:17:16.360 he didn't do anything.

00:17:17.440 She pounced and he folded.

00:17:19.440 The strongest performance

00:17:20.340 of the night,

00:17:20.800 because Gabbard

00:17:21.840 was pretty impressive.

00:17:22.780 She exceeded expectations.

00:17:24.040 Actually, even Booker

00:17:24.880 exceeded expectations,

00:17:26.320 which were already

00:17:26.900 very low.

00:17:27.680 But the strongest performance

00:17:28.780 of the night came from

00:17:30.000 Elizabeth Warren.

00:17:31.600 She didn't say anything.

00:17:32.720 She just kept saying,

00:17:33.940 I have a plan.

00:17:34.600 I have a plan.

00:17:35.260 But she came off 1.00

00:17:36.300 very strong,

00:17:37.960 even though she'd never

00:17:39.460 explained what her plans were.

00:17:41.960 Senator Warren,

00:17:42.620 I want to continue

00:17:43.340 on the Mitch McConnell

00:17:44.760 thing because you have

00:17:45.960 a lot of ambitious plans.

00:17:47.360 You have a plan for that.

00:17:48.480 Okay.

00:17:48.980 We talked about

00:17:49.840 the Supreme Court.

00:17:50.460 Do you have a plan

00:17:51.680 to deal with Mitch McConnell

00:17:53.940 if you don't beat him

00:17:56.020 in the Senate,

00:17:56.680 if he's still sitting there

00:17:58.200 as the Senate majority leader?

00:17:59.780 It's very plausible

00:18:01.040 you'd be elected president

00:18:02.340 with a Republican Senate.

00:18:04.340 Do you have a plan

00:18:05.360 to deal with Mitch McConnell?

00:18:06.720 I do.

00:18:13.140 That's it.

00:18:13.740 That was her answer.

00:18:14.440 I do.

00:18:15.120 And then they applaud.

00:18:16.120 She doesn't say

00:18:16.940 what the plan is.

00:18:17.920 Okay, that's fine.

00:18:18.740 So they want strength.

00:18:21.300 She's offering strength

00:18:22.460 and she's offering,

00:18:24.120 you know,

00:18:24.300 she's a real battle axe, 1.00

00:18:26.260 a battle tomahawk

00:18:27.240 in the case of Elizabeth Warren.

00:18:28.620 She's a real,

00:18:29.420 she's saying,

00:18:29.860 I'm the tough one.

00:18:30.660 She's trying to,

00:18:31.280 in some ways,

00:18:31.760 pull a Trump strategy here.

00:18:33.020 But she doesn't give 0.83

00:18:33.880 a lot of specifics.

00:18:35.220 This got even more

00:18:36.160 ridiculous later on.

00:18:37.220 She kept just using

00:18:37.820 these platitudes.

00:18:38.680 She kept just refusing

00:18:39.600 to answer questions.

00:18:40.560 Chuck Todd actually

00:18:41.580 called her out on it.

00:18:42.740 We need to treat this

00:18:43.940 like the virus

00:18:44.720 that's killing our children. 0.98

00:18:46.280 You didn't address,

00:18:47.140 do you think

00:18:47.660 the federal government

00:18:48.240 needs to go and figure out

00:18:49.700 a way to get the guns

00:18:50.460 that are already out there?

00:18:51.620 What I think we need to do

00:18:53.160 is we need to treat it

00:18:54.440 like a serious research problem,

00:18:56.440 which we have not done.

00:18:58.400 You know,

00:18:58.780 guns in the hands

00:19:00.040 of a collector

00:19:00.960 who's had them for decades,

00:19:03.700 who's never fired,

00:19:04.920 who takes safety seriously,

00:19:07.360 that's very different

00:19:08.640 from guns that are sold

00:19:10.320 and turned over quickly.

00:19:11.560 We can't treat this

00:19:13.400 as an across-the-board problem.

00:19:15.360 We have to treat it

00:19:16.460 like a public health emergency.

00:19:18.700 That means bring data to bear

00:19:20.260 and it means make real change

00:19:22.400 in this country,

00:19:23.540 whether it's politically popular or not.

00:19:26.460 Okay, thank you, Senator.

00:19:27.500 Thank you, Senator.

00:19:28.180 The question was,

00:19:28.940 are you going to take away

00:19:29.600 people's guns?

00:19:30.640 We need to take this seriously.

00:19:32.680 Yeah, I know,

00:19:33.260 but are you going to take away

00:19:34.160 people's guns?

00:19:34.980 I'm going to take it

00:19:35.940 really, really seriously.

00:19:37.180 Okay, you're not going to answer.

00:19:38.100 Obviously ridiculous.

00:19:39.700 Whatever.

00:19:40.180 She doesn't want to give it

00:19:40.880 what will end up being

00:19:41.820 a very divisive answer.

00:19:43.220 The problem is her voice.

00:19:45.180 She is shrill.

00:19:47.540 That's not a woman thing. 1.00

00:19:49.320 That's not a sexist thing.

00:19:50.760 Tulsi Gabbard isn't shrill. 0.85

00:19:52.200 Amy Klobuchar isn't shrill.

00:19:54.380 Cory Booker is shrill.

00:19:55.980 And Liz Warren,

00:19:56.900 who's at the top

00:19:57.760 of this particular pack,

00:19:59.300 is very shrill.

00:20:01.140 She sounds like a disingenuous 0.99

00:20:02.740 wet blanket and a scold. 0.99

00:20:04.900 And it's very, very grating.

00:20:07.220 If she can fix her voice,

00:20:08.260 she'll be the strongest candidate 0.98

00:20:09.680 in the race,

00:20:10.320 in the whole race.

00:20:12.020 Very intelligent.

00:20:13.200 She's a total killer. 1.00

00:20:14.780 She's polished.

00:20:15.780 She's strong.

00:20:17.140 She projects strength.

00:20:18.840 If she can't fix that voice,

00:20:20.260 it's hard to see

00:20:20.960 how people will ever come around

00:20:22.580 to like her well enough

00:20:23.320 to vote for her.

00:20:24.360 The big takeaway here,

00:20:25.520 I think,

00:20:25.840 is we all think Trump

00:20:26.960 can be defeated.

00:20:27.780 He has weaknesses.

00:20:28.920 If the economy goes south,

00:20:30.600 he'll really have weaknesses.

00:20:32.600 But does anyone really think

00:20:33.840 he can be defeated

00:20:34.560 by one of those people?

00:20:36.660 Seriously?

00:20:37.020 No, no chance.

00:20:38.620 We'll see tonight

00:20:39.220 if Biden or Sanders

00:20:40.640 or Buttigieg

00:20:41.640 can connect any better.

00:20:43.500 But otherwise,

00:20:44.160 I think President Trump

00:20:45.220 looking pretty good.

00:20:46.800 All right,

00:20:47.000 we got to bring on

00:20:47.620 my old pal,

00:20:49.000 Jameel Javani.

00:20:50.320 If you have not heard of Jameel,

00:20:52.500 he has an incredible life story.

00:20:54.320 He's genuinely

00:20:54.720 one of the most impressive people

00:20:55.960 I've ever met.

00:20:56.740 I met him when I was in college

00:20:57.860 and he was in law school.

00:20:59.260 So he was at actually

00:21:00.140 the top law school

00:21:01.000 in the country,

00:21:02.060 if not the world.

00:21:03.280 And he wasn't always

00:21:04.560 the top of his class.

00:21:05.780 He wasn't always

00:21:06.380 the sharpest guy

00:21:07.240 or the most applied guy.

00:21:10.400 He wasn't always

00:21:10.740 applying his intelligence.

00:21:12.260 He was actually declared

00:21:13.660 illiterate in high school,

00:21:15.760 raised without a father,

00:21:16.880 single mother.

00:21:17.940 He had been going down

00:21:18.940 the path toward crime,

00:21:21.000 path toward gangsterism.

00:21:23.380 And he was affiliated

00:21:25.320 with the Nation of Islam.

00:21:26.620 He was going down

00:21:27.020 these really dark ideologies,

00:21:28.540 these radical ideologies.

00:21:30.360 Then he turned his life around.

00:21:31.560 And he became,

00:21:33.100 when I was in school,

00:21:33.960 he was like the big man

00:21:35.060 on campus.

00:21:35.660 And he went on to be

00:21:37.140 the big man after campus.

00:21:39.840 An activist,

00:21:40.960 a lawyer,

00:21:41.640 a published author,

00:21:42.480 the author of an excellent

00:21:44.000 new book,

00:21:44.880 Why Young Men. 0.97

00:21:47.060 Jameel,

00:21:47.440 thanks for being here.

00:21:48.780 Thanks for having me,

00:21:49.520 Michael.

00:21:49.880 And thanks for the

00:21:50.600 very kind introduction.

00:21:52.360 I appreciate it.

00:21:53.180 I got to tell you,

00:21:54.260 pal,

00:21:54.660 you are by far

00:21:56.800 one of the most,

00:21:57.480 if not the most impressive guy

00:21:58.900 I met during my entire time

00:22:00.180 in college.

00:22:00.600 And you've gone on

00:22:01.700 to impress all of us

00:22:02.920 even more in your life

00:22:04.100 after law school.

00:22:05.460 I loved this book.

00:22:07.060 Very interesting.

00:22:07.900 I didn't agree with everything

00:22:08.900 or I wasn't totally

00:22:09.840 convinced by it.

00:22:10.760 But I thought you made

00:22:11.480 a great case.

00:22:12.840 You weighed

00:22:13.880 a lot of different sides

00:22:15.700 of all of these arguments.

00:22:17.000 The question you ask

00:22:17.960 is why young men?

00:22:19.600 The dangerous allure

00:22:20.800 of violent movements

00:22:22.140 and what we can do about it.

00:22:23.660 So I have to ask you

00:22:24.660 for all the listeners,

00:22:26.340 why young men? 0.75

00:22:28.100 Yeah.

00:22:28.520 Well,

00:22:28.900 what I try to do in the book

00:22:29.940 is show how the

00:22:31.060 expert way

00:22:33.040 that violent movements

00:22:34.160 or radical ideologies

00:22:35.420 are able to speak

00:22:36.420 to the anger

00:22:37.700 and frustration

00:22:38.540 that a lot of young men feel.

00:22:40.320 And it's a sort of

00:22:41.640 teenage or,

00:22:42.600 you know,

00:22:42.880 early 20-year-old angst

00:22:44.540 that I think everyone

00:22:45.580 relates to in some way.

00:22:46.820 I mean,

00:22:46.980 most people,

00:22:47.560 if you ask them

00:22:48.060 to look back at pictures

00:22:49.120 from high school,

00:22:50.400 they shudder to think

00:22:51.740 about what they were like

00:22:52.580 back then.

00:22:53.440 But what these groups

00:22:54.180 do really well

00:22:54.840 is they reach young men

00:22:55.920 and politicize those feelings

00:22:57.700 and make you feel like

00:22:58.620 there's someone

00:22:59.180 you need to hate, 0.90

00:23:00.440 there's someone

00:23:00.860 you need to be resentful toward,

00:23:02.500 and that you should adopt

00:23:04.020 a purpose and a mission

00:23:06.300 that is going to let you

00:23:07.320 act on the feelings

00:23:08.500 that you have.

00:23:09.560 And that brotherhood

00:23:11.840 they offer,

00:23:12.460 that camaraderie

00:23:13.260 they offer

00:23:13.820 in sharing that purpose

00:23:15.440 and mission

00:23:15.900 is what I think

00:23:16.640 they do very effectively.

00:23:18.000 And what I explore

00:23:18.700 in the book

00:23:19.080 is how they're doing

00:23:20.140 it more effectively

00:23:20.860 for a lot of young men

00:23:21.920 than schools are

00:23:22.780 or churches are

00:23:23.680 or out-of-touch

00:23:24.820 public institutions

00:23:26.040 that we trust

00:23:26.800 to reach our young people

00:23:27.940 too often

00:23:28.760 they're just not doing

00:23:29.540 that very well.

00:23:30.440 How did you turn

00:23:31.200 your life around?

00:23:32.140 I know a little bit

00:23:33.200 of the answer to this.

00:23:34.920 You raised without a father,

00:23:37.760 illiterate,

00:23:38.500 listening to Louis Farrakhan,

00:23:40.220 one of the worst voices

00:23:41.300 in the whole world,

00:23:42.500 and then you become

00:23:43.640 this total model

00:23:46.520 for young men to follow.

00:23:48.280 What changed?

00:23:50.480 Well, a lot of it for me

00:23:51.760 came down to failing

00:23:53.440 at doing the wrong things,

00:23:55.960 right?

00:23:56.200 So I tried to be a gangster.

00:23:58.140 I wanted to drop out of school.

00:23:59.640 That plan didn't work out for me

00:24:01.380 in large part

00:24:02.360 because even though

00:24:03.840 I was going through

00:24:04.740 a lot of difficulty

00:24:05.940 in my life

00:24:06.600 and I didn't have

00:24:07.120 a great relationship

00:24:07.900 with my mom,

00:24:08.680 she was still in my life.

00:24:09.880 And I think having her there,

00:24:11.500 even when we didn't know

00:24:12.360 how to talk to each other,

00:24:13.540 meant a lot.

00:24:14.800 Jordan Peterson

00:24:15.580 refers to this

00:24:16.980 as like having a light

00:24:17.980 at the end of the tunnel.

00:24:19.280 And I think my mom

00:24:20.080 played that role for me.

00:24:21.540 So when the moments came

00:24:22.560 where I almost bought a gun

00:24:23.740 or I almost dropped out of school,

00:24:25.120 I almost gave up on myself,

00:24:26.620 I had that light

00:24:27.660 where I was like,

00:24:28.340 you know,

00:24:28.700 maybe there is someone

00:24:29.840 to disappoint.

00:24:31.000 There is someone

00:24:31.540 who thinks higher of me

00:24:32.680 than I think of myself.

00:24:34.260 And having that person

00:24:35.320 meant a world of difference.

00:24:37.120 So when the time came

00:24:38.120 where I exposed myself

00:24:39.360 as not able to live up

00:24:40.860 to my tough guy bravado

00:24:43.200 and my gangster fairy tales,

00:24:45.340 I lost all my friends overnight.

00:24:47.400 I mean,

00:24:47.720 I knew that they think

00:24:49.120 I was a chicken

00:24:50.440 and a punk

00:24:51.220 and much more vulgar words

00:24:53.000 than that.

00:24:53.760 And I had to,

00:24:55.200 you know,

00:24:55.600 change my social circle.

00:24:57.300 And it's a hard thing

00:24:58.060 for anyone of any age to do.

00:25:00.100 I'm not sure

00:25:00.600 I would have been able

00:25:01.240 to do it deliberately.

00:25:02.400 I did it without even realizing

00:25:03.920 that's what was happening.

00:25:05.280 But when I changed

00:25:05.980 my social circle,

00:25:07.120 I finished up high school,

00:25:08.420 went on to community college,

00:25:09.840 had a whole host

00:25:10.780 of different people

00:25:11.420 in my life.

00:25:12.420 All of a sudden,

00:25:13.160 I was starting to think

00:25:14.080 and feel like a different person.

00:25:15.620 And over time,

00:25:16.540 that made a world of difference.

00:25:17.900 Well,

00:25:18.280 and you mention in the book

00:25:19.520 how just that act

00:25:22.180 of committing yourself

00:25:23.660 a little bit more

00:25:24.520 to mainstream society.

00:25:25.920 So you're not just

00:25:26.520 hanging around on the street

00:25:27.540 with a bunch of criminals anymore.

00:25:29.200 You're going to community college.

00:25:31.140 You're investing yourself

00:25:33.500 into the mainstream.

00:25:35.080 And that leads you

00:25:36.080 even more

00:25:37.180 to invest yourself

00:25:38.320 into the mainstream of society.

00:25:39.980 How do these young men

00:25:41.020 get isolated

00:25:41.840 in the first place?

00:25:43.260 And in a culture

00:25:44.080 where we have

00:25:44.640 declining religious institutions,

00:25:46.280 declining civic participation,

00:25:49.260 in some communities

00:25:50.780 declining fatherhood,

00:25:52.360 how do we pull them back

00:25:53.700 from that isolation

00:25:54.580 and get them a little,

00:25:56.500 even to begin

00:25:57.540 to be invested

00:25:58.340 in the mainstream of society?

00:26:00.800 Yeah.

00:26:01.100 So the different kind

00:26:01.920 of violent movements

00:26:02.580 I talk about,

00:26:03.280 the gangs,

00:26:04.060 the terror cells,

00:26:05.400 the extremist networks online,

00:26:07.580 what I think

00:26:08.240 they share in common

00:26:09.680 is an ability

00:26:10.660 to communicate

00:26:12.220 to young men

00:26:13.120 that your frustrations

00:26:14.340 are not your fault.

00:26:15.240 And so whatever

00:26:16.220 unhappiness

00:26:17.980 and dissatisfaction

00:26:19.000 you feel at home

00:26:20.180 or with your school

00:26:20.920 or your job

00:26:21.660 or life is not

00:26:22.640 what you wish it was

00:26:23.720 in some way,

00:26:24.540 you're able to then see

00:26:25.760 that as, you know,

00:26:26.960 quote unquote,

00:26:27.480 mainstream society's fault.

00:26:28.980 It's rigged against me.

00:26:30.120 I'm not supposed

00:26:30.700 to be successful.

00:26:31.900 And that ideology

00:26:33.260 is really at the core of it

00:26:35.000 because what that leads to

00:26:36.120 is a certain kind

00:26:36.920 of moral relativism, right?

00:26:38.780 Where you can say,

00:26:39.920 yes, I know

00:26:40.580 I shouldn't shoot people.

00:26:42.440 I know I shouldn't hate people.

00:26:43.860 But for me, it's okay

00:26:45.440 because my life

00:26:46.340 is particularly unfair

00:26:47.800 because the deck

00:26:48.860 is stacked against me

00:26:50.040 in a way it isn't

00:26:50.700 for other people.

00:26:51.800 So I get to live

00:26:52.560 by a different code of conduct.

00:26:54.400 And when you start

00:26:54.920 to think that way,

00:26:55.840 you're really developing

00:26:57.020 an antisocial compass

00:26:59.180 for the world.

00:27:00.000 I mean, it's even hard

00:27:01.080 to see it in the moment

00:27:02.120 until you get those flashes

00:27:03.580 where you realize,

00:27:04.820 hey, the way I look

00:27:05.520 in someone else's eyes,

00:27:06.700 like I look like a monster

00:27:07.720 and I didn't even realize

00:27:08.740 that's what I was

00:27:09.460 turning myself into.

00:27:10.920 I think about it as,

00:27:12.420 you know,

00:27:12.560 I use the example

00:27:13.260 in the book

00:27:13.720 of when I saw

00:27:14.220 one of my closest friends

00:27:15.580 appear in a Crime Stoppers

00:27:17.020 press release

00:27:17.780 and it was just like

00:27:18.880 seeing the way

00:27:19.420 he was talked about

00:27:20.400 and the way

00:27:20.920 he was characterized,

00:27:22.060 it just dawned on me

00:27:23.160 like, man,

00:27:23.500 what have we become?

00:27:24.620 We've become these guys

00:27:25.920 who go out

00:27:26.320 and fight on the street

00:27:27.380 and we treat women badly

00:27:28.740 and we're angry

00:27:29.860 and we cuss all day 0.74

00:27:31.500 and we glorify drug dealers.

00:27:33.780 But it also happens

00:27:34.800 in other contexts

00:27:35.580 where you have like

00:27:36.240 even that Charlottesville rally,

00:27:38.820 you know,

00:27:39.020 the Unite the Right rally

00:27:39.820 a couple of years ago.

00:27:40.640 The young guys

00:27:41.920 who wound up in that rally

00:27:43.060 who, you know,

00:27:43.580 had their pictures taken,

00:27:44.620 the UVA students and stuff,

00:27:46.320 I think that was

00:27:47.020 a real shocker for them

00:27:47.960 when they saw

00:27:48.640 what it would look like

00:27:49.800 to be presented

00:27:50.580 as part of that kind of a group

00:27:52.020 and they were like,

00:27:52.580 oh, that's not

00:27:53.500 how I thought

00:27:54.480 I was coming across, right?

00:27:55.780 Like it's that moment

00:27:57.540 where you realize

00:27:58.460 how you are perceived

00:27:59.860 by others

00:28:00.440 and that moral relativism

00:28:01.900 starts to break down

00:28:03.080 where I think you have

00:28:04.220 those moments

00:28:04.940 for transformation

00:28:06.040 and real transformation

00:28:08.060 becomes possible.

00:28:08.940 You know,

00:28:09.720 the argument

00:28:10.320 we've been hearing

00:28:10.980 from the left

00:28:12.040 for a long time

00:28:12.960 on how people

00:28:14.560 get radicalized

00:28:15.640 into ISIS

00:28:16.260 or radical Islam

00:28:17.340 or whatever

00:28:17.800 is like Barack Obama

00:28:19.480 would say,

00:28:19.920 well, it's because

00:28:20.320 they don't have jobs.

00:28:21.580 It's because they're poor.

00:28:22.960 You need to give them

00:28:23.460 economic or material opportunity

00:28:25.200 and then they won't

00:28:25.840 be radicalized.

00:28:26.980 And in some cases,

00:28:27.900 as you show in the book,

00:28:28.920 there seems to be

00:28:29.460 evidence of that.

00:28:30.400 In other cases,

00:28:31.340 it's middle class kids,

00:28:32.500 it's rich kids,

00:28:33.400 it's not,

00:28:34.760 the economic forces

00:28:36.120 don't explain it.

00:28:37.360 What is the,

00:28:39.220 what do you think

00:28:39.880 is the relationship here

00:28:41.140 between economic factors

00:28:43.020 and cultural factors

00:28:44.780 like fatherlessness

00:28:45.800 and ideological factors,

00:28:48.300 the actual ideology

00:28:50.260 of the radical movements

00:28:51.700 themselves?

00:28:52.620 What,

00:28:53.140 which are having

00:28:54.520 the biggest influences

00:28:55.500 on young men?

00:28:57.480 Yeah,

00:28:57.980 I think a lot of young men,

00:28:59.600 more than any other group

00:29:01.100 of people

00:29:01.820 in, you know,

00:29:02.440 kind of the human population,

00:29:03.680 are driven by a desire

00:29:05.940 for admiration

00:29:06.780 and respect.

00:29:08.100 They want to feel

00:29:09.020 respected,

00:29:10.340 appreciated,

00:29:11.080 they want to feel strong.

00:29:12.540 I think we often

00:29:13.660 react very poorly

00:29:14.780 to paternalism,

00:29:16.020 for example.

00:29:16.720 We don't like to feel

00:29:17.680 people to pity us,

00:29:19.400 right?

00:29:20.040 And so when you're

00:29:21.060 looking for that status,

00:29:22.460 you're,

00:29:23.160 you know,

00:29:23.900 poverty is a significant

00:29:25.180 barrier to that,

00:29:26.100 of course.

00:29:26.560 I mean,

00:29:26.720 there's a way to feel

00:29:27.460 alienated by your society

00:29:28.840 because you're like,

00:29:29.820 hey,

00:29:29.960 I'm broke.

00:29:30.760 I don't think I'm ever

00:29:31.500 going to not be broke

00:29:32.340 and I'm mad about that.

00:29:33.620 But you could think

00:29:34.260 of that status

00:29:34.920 as being elusive

00:29:35.780 to people in a lot

00:29:36.700 of other circumstances

00:29:37.500 as well.

00:29:38.240 I mean,

00:29:38.400 you could be a middle

00:29:39.080 class kid with,

00:29:40.180 you know,

00:29:40.300 like a lot of the

00:29:41.000 young men who left

00:29:42.060 the United Kingdom

00:29:42.820 to join ISIS,

00:29:43.720 for example,

00:29:44.580 were university graduates.

00:29:46.040 I mean,

00:29:46.200 they weren't lacking

00:29:47.060 for opportunity,

00:29:48.600 but in their mind,

00:29:49.680 because of their religion

00:29:50.720 or because of their identity,

00:29:51.960 they still couldn't get

00:29:53.140 status in the United Kingdom.

00:29:54.940 They were being held back

00:29:55.940 because they were part

00:29:57.000 of this persecuted

00:29:57.900 minority group in the West.

00:30:00.060 And so status

00:30:00.760 is still something

00:30:01.480 they're seeking,

00:30:01.980 even though economics

00:30:03.060 might not be the barrier

00:30:04.160 to that status.

00:30:05.700 It's the same thing

00:30:06.400 I try to explain

00:30:07.120 to people who use

00:30:08.000 the term white privilege

00:30:09.040 a lot,

00:30:09.500 for example,

00:30:10.380 because when I say,

00:30:11.560 you know,

00:30:12.400 the reason I think

00:30:13.260 a young white man

00:30:14.340 might be drawn

00:30:15.000 to a white nationalist

00:30:16.220 organization

00:30:16.780 is not very different

00:30:18.020 from why a young Muslim

00:30:19.040 man might be drawn

00:30:19.760 to ISIS.

00:30:20.660 They say,

00:30:21.200 but the white guy's privileged.

00:30:22.420 Why would he feel

00:30:23.140 alienated in the West,

00:30:24.420 right?

00:30:24.660 I mean,

00:30:24.860 look,

00:30:25.060 his people,

00:30:26.120 they have all the jobs,

00:30:27.180 they have all the money,

00:30:27.860 they're all the politicians,

00:30:28.940 blah, blah, blah.

00:30:29.560 And my answer is,

00:30:30.960 well,

00:30:31.160 a lot of it is actually

00:30:32.100 about his own vision

00:30:33.600 of what status looks like.

00:30:34.880 And if he feels

00:30:35.620 like he's being excluded,

00:30:37.040 even though you might

00:30:37.880 not think that

00:30:38.500 because you're judging him

00:30:39.480 based on his race,

00:30:40.660 it doesn't mean

00:30:41.040 that that's how he feels.

00:30:42.360 And understanding

00:30:42.960 how he feels

00:30:43.580 is really the point

00:30:44.400 because you can have

00:30:45.520 all your own ideas

00:30:46.400 about how people

00:30:47.200 are supposed to feel

00:30:48.220 because of their race

00:30:49.520 or their economic status

00:30:50.740 or whatever it might be.

00:30:52.240 But if that's not

00:30:53.100 how they see themselves,

00:30:54.040 then, you know,

00:30:54.760 your theory doesn't

00:30:55.540 actually make a difference,

00:30:56.500 right?

00:30:56.840 And that's a hard message

00:30:58.100 for a lot of people

00:30:58.840 to accept.

00:30:59.440 I think one of the things

00:31:00.700 in the book

00:31:01.040 I get the most pushback on,

00:31:02.920 especially for more liberal

00:31:04.120 or left-leaning audiences,

00:31:05.640 is my desire to include

00:31:07.800 white young men

00:31:08.880 in the conversation.

00:31:09.980 And I conclude the book

00:31:11.040 even criticizing

00:31:11.880 President Obama's

00:31:13.020 My Brother's Keeper initiative

00:31:14.300 for purposely excluding

00:31:16.380 white men.

00:31:17.420 Every other group

00:31:18.240 of men in America

00:31:19.060 was included

00:31:19.980 in that initiative

00:31:20.680 except for white men.

00:31:21.660 And I think it was

00:31:22.360 a huge mistake

00:31:23.060 because there are

00:31:24.280 so many more things

00:31:25.220 we have in common

00:31:26.080 than different.

00:31:27.240 And that desire for status

00:31:28.500 is what we all share,

00:31:29.820 I think.

00:31:30.400 Yeah, absolutely right.

00:31:32.280 I think that analysis

00:31:33.080 is so right.

00:31:34.180 It's pretty bold of you

00:31:35.660 because I know that

00:31:37.100 you'll get a lot of pushback

00:31:38.840 on the left for that.

00:31:39.700 But it's a really

00:31:40.540 compelling analysis.

00:31:42.180 And I really enjoyed the book.

00:31:43.740 Obviously, you are

00:31:44.880 one of the sharpest guys

00:31:45.840 I know,

00:31:46.240 so I highly recommend

00:31:47.260 everyone go out

00:31:48.320 and get

00:31:48.540 Why Young Men? 0.97

00:31:50.140 The Dangerous Allure

00:31:51.300 of Violent Movements

00:31:52.540 and What We Can Do About It.

00:31:54.540 It's really terrific.

00:31:55.660 I read it in one sitting.

00:31:56.840 I couldn't put it down.

00:31:57.880 And so much of it

00:31:58.700 is because of

00:31:59.380 your personal story

00:32:01.320 that is interwoven

00:32:02.320 throughout the argument.

00:32:03.360 It's just really well done,

00:32:04.480 my friend.

00:32:05.220 I can't wait to

00:32:06.120 read your next book

00:32:07.420 and see you sometime

00:32:08.080 in the meantime.

00:32:09.300 Where can people find you,

00:32:10.340 by the way?

00:32:11.360 I'm on Twitter

00:32:12.080 at Jamil Javani,

00:32:13.560 also Instagram,

00:32:14.500 also Facebook.

00:32:16.160 Yeah, and, you know,

00:32:17.500 I appreciate you having me

00:32:18.560 on the show, Michael.

00:32:19.440 It's great to reconnect

00:32:20.460 and I'm glad

00:32:21.440 you enjoyed the book.

00:32:22.420 Absolutely.

00:32:22.960 All right, Jamil,

00:32:23.520 thanks so much for coming on.

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00:33:11.100 First question from Matthew.

00:33:14.220 Michael, ex-Lothario

00:33:15.900 of the Daily Wire.

00:33:17.740 I just started doing,

00:33:19.040 just started seeing

00:33:20.000 a conservative girl

00:33:21.480 and I'd like your advice.

00:33:23.560 We've been on two dates

00:33:24.560 and I'm wondering

00:33:25.360 at what point

00:33:26.240 should I attempt to kiss her?

00:33:27.640 Is there a general

00:33:28.780 guideline on this?

00:33:29.960 How do you know

00:33:30.540 when it is a good time

00:33:31.600 to go in for the first kiss?

00:33:33.420 What telltale signs

00:33:34.720 do most women give off 1.00

00:33:36.300 that they,

00:33:37.160 that indicate

00:33:37.680 that they would like

00:33:38.520 to be kissed?

00:33:39.420 Best wishes

00:33:40.200 and keep up the good work.

00:33:41.880 Matt.

00:33:43.080 These days,

00:33:44.340 I believe the telltale sign

00:33:45.820 you're looking for

00:33:46.480 is a notarized contract

00:33:47.940 witnessed by about

00:33:48.860 seven people

00:33:49.620 and stamped by a judge.

00:33:51.600 Traditionally, however,

00:33:52.980 you've been on two dates,

00:33:55.400 so now,

00:33:56.020 you should do it now

00:33:56.700 or yesterday.

00:33:59.460 The telltale signs

00:34:01.180 that she wants you

00:34:02.400 to kiss her

00:34:02.900 are that she's gone

00:34:03.580 on two dates with you.

00:34:05.060 Guys are very stupid

00:34:06.080 about this.

00:34:06.660 I don't mean to single you out,

00:34:08.160 but people,

00:34:08.720 guys get this wrong

00:34:09.420 all the time.

00:34:09.820 They get shy,

00:34:10.460 they get nervous,

00:34:11.100 they overthink it.

00:34:11.960 They say,

00:34:12.260 oh, I don't know

00:34:12.680 if she really wants me to.

00:34:13.880 One time on one

00:34:14.600 of my early dates

00:34:15.280 with sweet little Elisa,

00:34:16.820 we were like 16 or something,

00:34:18.660 I had my arm around her

00:34:19.920 kind of cuddling up

00:34:20.760 watching a movie

00:34:21.440 and I was thinking,

00:34:22.140 I was like,

00:34:22.340 oh, does she want me

00:34:23.120 to kiss her?

00:34:23.900 Like, I don't know, idiot.

00:34:24.740 She's sitting with you

00:34:25.480 and you got your arm around her

00:34:26.460 and you're like,

00:34:27.080 duh, what else are you going to do?

00:34:28.880 Are you going to play Yahtzee?

00:34:29.760 No.

00:34:31.040 So these guys get very nervous

00:34:33.100 and they shy and everything.

00:34:35.900 So very often guys think

00:34:37.960 that if they make a move

00:34:39.740 too soon,

00:34:40.560 it's going to ruin things.

00:34:41.560 It's going to be

00:34:41.940 too presumptuous.

00:34:43.220 They think the bigger risk

00:34:44.440 is to make a move too soon.

00:34:45.980 The far greater risk

00:34:48.060 is not making a move

00:34:49.520 and seeming too timid.

00:34:51.500 You're on the date.

00:34:52.420 You've gone on two dates.

00:34:53.220 You've gone on three dates.

00:34:54.100 Whatever.

00:34:55.600 She's there.

00:34:56.340 The purpose of going on dates

00:34:57.440 is to get a little smooch

00:34:58.680 at the end.

00:34:59.980 Go for it.

00:35:01.260 Kiss the girl. 1.00

00:35:01.960 And if she rejects you,

00:35:03.480 too bad.

00:35:04.080 And you go on a date

00:35:05.100 with another girl.

00:35:06.240 From Ryan.

00:35:07.760 Hi, Michael.

00:35:08.440 I just started a new job

00:35:09.780 as an accounting manager

00:35:10.780 and my company

00:35:11.580 is doing a gay pride event

00:35:13.320 this month.

00:35:14.400 Everyone on my team

00:35:15.400 has said they're going,

00:35:16.880 but I do not feel comfortable

00:35:18.100 celebrating something

00:35:19.000 that I consider to be a sin.

00:35:21.100 Should I just go

00:35:21.940 and hold my tongue

00:35:22.940 for appearance sake?

00:35:24.380 I feel like if I don't go,

00:35:25.720 I'm running the risk

00:35:27.120 of offending my new team

00:35:28.360 and starting unwanted

00:35:29.460 religious and political

00:35:30.520 conversations at work.

00:35:32.820 Yeah, well,

00:35:33.220 you won't be starting

00:35:34.180 the unwanted political

00:35:36.300 and religious conversations.

00:35:38.300 Your teammates

00:35:39.220 and your colleagues

00:35:40.100 are starting that

00:35:41.040 by inviting you

00:35:42.120 to a gay pride parade.

00:35:44.820 I mean, pride.

00:35:45.780 Forget the gay part. 1.00

00:35:46.740 Pride is the deadliest sin.

00:35:47.980 It's the queen of all sins.

00:35:49.140 I don't celebrate pride 1.00

00:35:51.900 at all, ever.

00:35:53.260 Gay pride,

00:35:54.040 straight pride,

00:35:54.940 asexual pride.

00:35:55.800 Pride is not a good thing

00:35:56.620 to celebrate.

00:35:57.940 So, if I were you,

00:35:59.280 I wouldn't go.

00:36:00.680 Depends what kind of man

00:36:01.580 you want to be.

00:36:02.120 Are you going to be

00:36:02.540 the kind of guy

00:36:03.180 who is going to compromise

00:36:05.760 on your morals

00:36:07.200 and go celebrate

00:36:08.060 something you don't want

00:36:08.780 to celebrate

00:36:09.240 and you think is wrong

00:36:10.440 and immoral?

00:36:11.700 Or not?

00:36:12.460 What I would do is

00:36:13.400 I wouldn't stand up

00:36:15.760 and make a speech

00:36:16.520 and I'm not sure

00:36:17.800 exactly if you're

00:36:18.500 objecting to the

00:36:19.740 gay stuff 0.99

00:36:21.140 or the pride stuff

00:36:22.120 or both of it

00:36:22.740 but I wouldn't get up there

00:36:24.000 and, you know,

00:36:24.780 like have your

00:36:25.420 Westboro Baptist Church

00:36:26.680 signs or something

00:36:27.920 make some grand declaration.

00:36:29.700 I would just say,

00:36:30.120 oh yeah, I'm busy.

00:36:32.200 What are you busy doing?

00:36:33.200 Anything else?

00:36:34.340 That's what I would do.

00:36:35.000 I wouldn't go.

00:36:35.980 I wouldn't make

00:36:36.740 a big deal about it

00:36:37.640 and you're right,

00:36:38.620 they're probably going to,

00:36:40.100 some of the more

00:36:40.660 left-wing aggressive people

00:36:42.260 are probably going to

00:36:43.020 make a big deal

00:36:43.620 out of it.

00:36:44.000 That's the cost

00:36:45.920 of having beliefs

00:36:47.180 and standing up for them.

00:36:49.360 It's so inappropriate

00:36:50.380 that the left does this.

00:36:52.180 The right doesn't 0.96

00:36:53.140 get to do this.

00:36:54.840 Even,

00:36:55.280 forget traditional

00:36:56.340 religion or Christianity,

00:36:58.280 even on civic religion,

00:36:59.720 even say,

00:37:00.200 hey,

00:37:00.840 we're going out

00:37:01.380 to the 4th of July parade

00:37:02.500 and we're going to

00:37:02.860 shoot off fireworks

00:37:03.620 and wave the American flag

00:37:04.860 and sing God bless America.

00:37:06.000 You guys want to all come out?

00:37:07.620 That would be a

00:37:08.440 much more acceptable

00:37:10.000 thing to say, right?

00:37:10.860 We're all part of

00:37:11.460 this American nation.

00:37:12.520 We're all supposed to

00:37:13.260 believe in America

00:37:14.000 and love America.

00:37:15.060 But if you said that

00:37:15.880 at your office,

00:37:16.520 you'd be brought into HR

00:37:17.700 saying you can't bring

00:37:18.940 politics into the office.

00:37:20.580 But if people are

00:37:21.520 inviting you to a

00:37:22.140 gay pride parade,

00:37:23.260 you almost have to go.

00:37:25.120 It's almost mandatory.

00:37:26.360 I would,

00:37:26.900 I would stand firm,

00:37:28.280 not do it.

00:37:29.400 But then you got to

00:37:30.700 accept the consequences.

00:37:31.680 I've had professional

00:37:32.340 consequences for

00:37:33.160 standing up for things.

00:37:33.980 If you're unwilling

00:37:35.120 or unable to make

00:37:36.300 those sacrifices

00:37:37.140 or hold the risk

00:37:38.880 of those sacrifices,

00:37:40.040 then you're in a tough spot.

00:37:41.800 From Valentino,

00:37:44.120 Oh,

00:37:44.440 knowledgeable,

00:37:45.220 former,

00:37:45.900 future press secretary

00:37:47.460 Michael Knowles,

00:37:48.460 in regard to the

00:37:49.880 flag burning amendment,

00:37:51.040 I've been on team

00:37:51.860 Knowles until I thought

00:37:53.920 about the conflict

00:37:54.620 it will have

00:37:55.260 with the first amendment.

00:37:56.760 Given the proposed

00:37:57.580 amendment,

00:37:58.480 what would be

00:37:59.220 the constitutionality

00:38:00.500 of flag burning

00:38:01.440 in a film?

00:38:03.020 Would love to have

00:38:03.720 your thoughts on this,

00:38:04.600 Valentino.

00:38:06.060 Hashtag,

00:38:06.920 came for Ben,

00:38:07.680 stayed for future

00:38:08.560 former press secretary

00:38:09.780 Knowles.

00:38:10.140 Thank you.

00:38:12.380 There's this proposal

00:38:13.380 from Steve Daines

00:38:14.600 to create an amendment

00:38:16.080 to the constitution

00:38:16.920 to make it unlawful

00:38:19.000 to burn a flag,

00:38:20.840 the American flag,

00:38:21.580 to desecrate

00:38:22.240 the American flag.

00:38:23.420 Right now,

00:38:24.480 the first amendment

00:38:25.040 protects flag

00:38:27.060 of desecration,

00:38:28.060 so if you pass

00:38:28.800 an amendment,

00:38:29.720 you no longer have

00:38:30.400 that constitutional issue.

00:38:31.780 I think I'm the only

00:38:32.700 conservative commentator

00:38:34.240 who supports the idea

00:38:35.960 of this amendment,

00:38:37.060 of this flag burning amendment.

00:38:38.080 All the rest are saying,

00:38:39.060 no,

00:38:39.740 free speech,

00:38:40.440 the founders would have

00:38:41.220 loved to burn

00:38:41.800 American flags.

00:38:42.880 I see no evidence

00:38:44.140 of that at all,

00:38:45.440 but you bring up

00:38:47.620 a great objection,

00:38:48.500 which is,

00:38:49.380 what if you're making

00:38:50.100 a work of art

00:38:50.860 where you have

00:38:52.640 to burn a flag?

00:38:54.320 Well,

00:38:55.140 how about rape? 0.87

00:38:57.580 Rape is illegal, 0.99

00:38:59.340 as it should be,

00:39:00.500 and yet there are

00:39:01.240 rape scenes in movies. 0.66

00:39:02.900 How do they do

00:39:03.480 the rape scenes?

00:39:04.220 They fake it.

00:39:04.820 So you could easily

00:39:06.940 fake burning a flag

00:39:08.260 in a movie.

00:39:09.580 With CGI,

00:39:10.480 you could easily do it.

00:39:11.320 Most times,

00:39:11.900 people light things

00:39:12.580 on fire in movies,

00:39:13.800 they do it by CGI anyway.

00:39:16.260 That's one way to fake it.

00:39:18.560 Now,

00:39:19.080 another way to fake it,

00:39:20.520 because an objection

00:39:21.380 to that,

00:39:21.820 I guess,

00:39:22.120 would be,

00:39:22.940 if you're even faking it,

00:39:24.980 you are desecrating

00:39:26.060 the flag,

00:39:26.580 you are burning the flag.

00:39:27.640 I don't think

00:39:28.080 that's really true.

00:39:30.020 You can,

00:39:30.800 if you draw an image

00:39:31.880 of a flag on fire,

00:39:33.240 that's not the same thing

00:39:35.020 as setting a flag on fire.

00:39:36.800 If you have a film

00:39:37.580 that shows a flag on fire,

00:39:39.100 that's not the same thing

00:39:40.200 as when you were filming it

00:39:42.160 actually setting the flag on fire.

00:39:44.500 But,

00:39:45.100 moreover,

00:39:45.580 you could fake it

00:39:46.160 in other ways.

00:39:47.040 You could be missing

00:39:48.100 one star.

00:39:49.820 You could be missing

00:39:50.740 one stripe.

00:39:51.960 You could have the colors

00:39:52.700 a little off or something.

00:39:54.060 You could fake it that way.

00:39:55.320 So you're actually

00:39:55.920 burning something,

00:39:56.700 but it's only got 49 stars.

00:39:58.520 You might say,

00:39:59.120 this is really trivial.

00:40:00.660 This is a distinction

00:40:01.380 without a difference.

00:40:02.640 No,

00:40:02.860 it's not.

00:40:04.200 You are,

00:40:05.280 you want to,

00:40:06.100 first of all,

00:40:07.220 when you act,

00:40:08.140 when you make a film

00:40:08.860 or you do a play,

00:40:09.640 you are pretending.

00:40:11.160 You're not really,

00:40:12.060 you know,

00:40:12.300 there's that great clip

00:40:13.220 of Ian McKellum

00:40:13.900 on extras.

00:40:14.880 He goes,

00:40:15.300 how do you act so well?

00:40:16.480 And I,

00:40:17.080 well,

00:40:17.360 what I do is I,

00:40:18.500 I say my lines

00:40:19.940 that they write down

00:40:20.900 in the script.

00:40:21.660 And then I walk to the place

00:40:22.920 where they tell me to be.

00:40:24.320 When I'm Gandalf,

00:40:25.380 I'm not really Gandalf.

00:40:27.340 I'm Sir Ian.

00:40:28.640 But I'm pretending

00:40:29.800 to be Gandalf the wizard.

00:40:32.340 That's the same thing.

00:40:33.140 You could pretend

00:40:33.900 to burn an American flag,

00:40:36.020 which is quite different.

00:40:38.180 That would be a distinction

00:40:40.080 that I think

00:40:40.740 wouldn't affect

00:40:41.780 the quality of art

00:40:42.800 at all

00:40:43.580 and also

00:40:44.580 would maintain

00:40:46.320 the sacred,

00:40:47.300 which is the purpose

00:40:47.960 of the flag burning amendment.

00:40:49.880 As a,

00:40:50.540 for a nation to thrive

00:40:51.900 and have some coherence

00:40:53.260 and cohesion,

00:40:54.300 you need to have

00:40:55.460 some sense

00:40:56.640 of the sacred,

00:40:57.680 some sanctity

00:40:58.880 around the nation itself.

00:41:00.980 And that,

00:41:01.220 that is the purpose

00:41:01.920 of an anti-flag burning

00:41:03.360 or anti-flag desecration amendment.

00:41:05.380 You would still

00:41:06.160 be able to preserve that

00:41:07.300 if you faked

00:41:08.220 the burning

00:41:08.600 in other ways.

00:41:09.300 The other aspect

00:41:10.060 of this for film

00:41:11.020 is back when

00:41:12.920 we had limits

00:41:13.700 on what you could film,

00:41:14.940 we had committees

00:41:16.000 deciding

00:41:16.800 what could be censored,

00:41:17.920 what could be shown,

00:41:18.680 what couldn't be shown.

00:41:19.800 The movies were better.

00:41:20.860 You had some

00:41:21.160 of the greatest movies

00:41:22.040 ever made

00:41:22.720 while there was censorship.

00:41:26.420 Gone with the Wind,

00:41:27.760 Wizard of Oz,

00:41:28.620 Wuthering Heights,

00:41:30.300 all,

00:41:30.780 I mean,

00:41:30.980 you could go on

00:41:31.640 and on and on.

00:41:33.620 Why is that?

00:41:34.500 It's because constraints

00:41:35.700 breed creativity.

00:41:37.180 What the postmodern

00:41:38.280 wacky people think

00:41:39.800 is that

00:41:40.560 you only get creativity

00:41:41.660 when you get rid

00:41:42.260 of constraints,

00:41:42.860 but that's not true.

00:41:43.520 It's why

00:41:43.880 spoken word poetry

00:41:45.620 is the death of art,

00:41:46.960 slam poetry,

00:41:48.120 while Shakespeare,

00:41:49.540 who's writing

00:41:49.960 with a ton of constraints,

00:41:51.320 I mean,

00:41:51.580 meter constraints,

00:41:52.780 length constraints,

00:41:53.560 the constraints of the sonnet,

00:41:54.900 is writing the greatest poetry

00:41:56.040 in the history

00:41:56.500 of the English language.

00:41:57.220 The constraints

00:41:58.580 breed the creativity.

00:41:59.860 This happened in film already,

00:42:01.380 and if we have

00:42:02.740 this one particular

00:42:04.900 constraint on film,

00:42:06.840 which would be

00:42:07.460 you can't actually

00:42:08.740 set a flag on fire

00:42:09.800 while you burn it,

00:42:10.920 I don't see any reason

00:42:12.440 why the principle

00:42:12.940 wouldn't hold there too.

00:42:14.260 From Noah,

00:42:15.320 hello,

00:42:16.160 me and a friend

00:42:16.900 were having an argument

00:42:17.840 about college debt forgiveness.

00:42:19.380 I told him

00:42:19.800 college education

00:42:20.580 was not a right,

00:42:22.120 and the government's job

00:42:23.120 is to protect

00:42:23.800 civil liberties

00:42:24.600 and defend

00:42:25.520 individual freedom.

00:42:26.500 He said that

00:42:27.620 inalienable rights

00:42:28.680 only exist

00:42:29.420 because some people

00:42:30.400 came up with them

00:42:31.560 and they can therefore

00:42:32.500 be added to.

00:42:34.060 How do I better

00:42:34.620 explain the difference

00:42:35.400 between commodities,

00:42:36.300 luxuries,

00:42:36.800 and rights guaranteed

00:42:37.660 by the government?

00:42:38.720 I think I understand,

00:42:39.960 but come off as condescending.

00:42:41.200 Thank you for everything

00:42:42.000 your crew does.

00:42:43.100 Great question.

00:42:44.020 You're both wrong.

00:42:46.900 Government does much more

00:42:48.460 than just protect

00:42:49.360 natural rights.

00:42:50.880 We know this, right?

00:42:51.720 Government tells

00:42:52.240 19-year-olds

00:42:53.080 that they can't buy

00:42:53.740 a pack of cigarettes.

00:42:54.460 Government forces me

00:42:55.940 to buy only cars

00:42:57.380 that have a certain

00:42:58.060 fuel efficiency standard.

00:42:59.960 I might object

00:43:00.740 to those sort of things,

00:43:01.820 but it is certainly

00:43:02.400 the case

00:43:02.880 that the government

00:43:03.680 can and does

00:43:05.140 do much more

00:43:06.460 than just protect

00:43:07.720 natural rights.

00:43:08.940 Now, this doesn't mean

00:43:09.720 that we can't derive

00:43:11.540 a sense of rights

00:43:12.560 from the natural law.

00:43:14.080 It doesn't mean

00:43:14.600 that we just

00:43:16.020 totally lose our sense

00:43:17.600 of the dignity

00:43:18.080 of the human person.

00:43:19.520 But you kind of

00:43:20.800 both have a point here.

00:43:21.800 I always go back

00:43:24.380 to Edmund Burke

00:43:24.940 on this.

00:43:25.400 Edmund Burke

00:43:25.920 is the mac daddy

00:43:27.500 godfather

00:43:28.100 of modern

00:43:28.700 conservative thought.

00:43:29.760 He said,

00:43:30.380 what is the use

00:43:31.300 of discussing

00:43:32.480 man's abstract

00:43:33.740 right to food

00:43:34.900 or medicine?

00:43:35.900 The question

00:43:36.660 is upon the method

00:43:38.060 of procuring

00:43:39.260 and administering them.

00:43:41.440 There's no natural

00:43:42.600 right to

00:43:43.380 modern health care,

00:43:45.140 right?

00:43:45.480 If that were the case,

00:43:46.440 then every human being

00:43:47.280 for all of history

00:43:48.020 was denied

00:43:48.580 their human rights

00:43:49.640 until about 100 years ago.

00:43:51.640 So what does it even mean

00:43:52.500 then for it to be

00:43:53.080 a human right

00:43:53.660 if statistically

00:43:55.000 all the humans

00:43:55.640 who ever lived

00:43:56.140 didn't have it?

00:43:58.480 It is also the case

00:43:59.580 that the government

00:44:00.120 could create a program

00:44:01.520 to give out

00:44:02.500 medical care.

00:44:03.980 It could.

00:44:04.800 Government does

00:44:05.320 a zillion things.

00:44:06.180 It could create

00:44:06.960 another welfare program

00:44:08.220 for medical care.

00:44:09.260 Government takes over

00:44:10.080 aspects of the economy.

00:44:11.000 It could take over

00:44:11.600 a sixth of the economy

00:44:12.740 by taking over health care.

00:44:15.500 Loan forgiveness.

00:44:16.440 The government's already

00:44:17.100 involved in loan forgiveness.

00:44:18.200 The government's already

00:44:20.560 involved in subsidizing loans.

00:44:22.060 It's already involved

00:44:23.060 in,

00:44:23.460 it created this bubble

00:44:24.240 in the first place actually.

00:44:25.360 And this is where you get

00:44:26.360 to the real argument.

00:44:28.200 The better argument

00:44:29.000 for your friend

00:44:29.760 is that the student loan

00:44:31.600 forgiveness proposal

00:44:32.600 is colossally stupid.

00:44:35.220 One,

00:44:35.820 the reason that we have

00:44:36.780 this huge bubble

00:44:37.480 is because the government

00:44:38.440 was subsidizing loans

00:44:39.340 in the first place.

00:44:40.600 And two,

00:44:41.520 we rely on

00:44:43.020 debt and credit.

00:44:44.500 What is debt?

00:44:45.120 Why do people go into debt?

00:44:46.100 They go into debt

00:44:46.800 because they think

00:44:47.720 that having money now

00:44:48.920 is better than waiting

00:44:50.760 for the money

00:44:51.300 they're going to have later.

00:44:52.220 They're borrowing

00:44:52.820 against their future

00:44:53.740 earnings potential.

00:44:54.840 And in the case of college,

00:44:55.820 even as expensive as it is,

00:44:57.960 college graduates,

00:44:58.840 the median college graduate,

00:45:00.220 make 75% more per year

00:45:02.040 than the median

00:45:04.300 high school graduate

00:45:05.000 without a college degree.

00:45:06.800 So guys saying,

00:45:07.400 oh,

00:45:07.440 if I can make 75% more per year,

00:45:09.140 I'll take out $50,000

00:45:10.420 worth of loans

00:45:11.200 because I'll make it back,

00:45:12.060 pay it off.

00:45:13.360 That's how debt works.

00:45:14.360 It's great

00:45:14.840 that we have a system of credit.

00:45:16.200 We use credit all the time.

00:45:17.040 We use credit to buy cars.

00:45:18.880 We go into debt.

00:45:19.440 We go into debt

00:45:20.120 to buy a house.

00:45:21.480 And it's how modern economies work.

00:45:23.600 It's how economies grow.

00:45:26.100 The minute

00:45:27.000 that you forgive

00:45:28.340 everyone's student debt,

00:45:29.620 $1.6 trillion

00:45:30.420 over 45 million people,

00:45:31.980 the minute you do it,

00:45:33.220 it's not just that

00:45:34.120 you tinker with that system.

00:45:35.440 You get it a little bit messed up.

00:45:37.280 You completely destroy

00:45:39.380 that system of credit.

00:45:41.960 What creditor

00:45:43.300 could lend out money

00:45:44.660 at that point?

00:45:45.220 No one has any incentive

00:45:47.060 ever to pay off that debt.

00:45:50.280 When I know the government's

00:45:51.400 just going to come in randomly

00:45:52.420 and pay off all the debt,

00:45:53.280 I'm never going to make

00:45:54.000 a student loan payment.

00:45:55.500 The reason all those people

00:45:56.620 were making student loan payments

00:45:58.080 is because

00:45:58.700 they didn't think the government

00:45:59.780 was going to bail them out.

00:46:00.620 They thought they had

00:46:01.060 to take care of it.

00:46:02.840 So you now have a system

00:46:04.540 where the government,

00:46:06.000 where the individual

00:46:06.740 is never going to make

00:46:07.620 their loan payments.

00:46:08.560 So it's going to be much harder

00:46:09.500 to get that credit

00:46:10.160 in the first place.

00:46:10.960 The government does

00:46:12.800 few things efficiently

00:46:13.760 and whenever the government

00:46:15.120 intervenes

00:46:15.880 and the more it intervenes,

00:46:17.620 the crazier,

00:46:19.160 the unexpected

00:46:19.880 secondary effects are.

00:46:22.340 The more egregious,

00:46:23.520 the more harmful

00:46:24.600 those effects can be.

00:46:26.120 And if you're forgiving

00:46:27.240 45 million loans

00:46:29.800 for $1.6 trillion,

00:46:31.600 when you're intervening

00:46:33.320 in that education industry,

00:46:36.320 the method of education,

00:46:37.380 then you are giving

00:46:38.660 the government control

00:46:40.240 over education itself.

00:46:42.500 You're destroying

00:46:43.240 the instrument

00:46:44.240 by which it's currently funded

00:46:46.080 and you're giving

00:46:46.680 government control

00:46:47.680 over that means,

00:46:48.380 which means

00:46:48.860 he who pays the piper

00:46:50.340 calls the tune.

00:46:51.440 When the government

00:46:51.880 gets involved,

00:46:52.520 how do things turn out?

00:46:53.780 When the government

00:46:54.240 gets involved in education,

00:46:56.820 how do things turn out?

00:46:57.600 Not very well.

00:46:58.780 It's a major threat

00:46:59.720 to education.

00:47:00.480 It's a major power grab.

00:47:02.020 That's why they want it.

00:47:04.360 All right.

00:47:04.940 That's our show.

00:47:05.720 We've got more to get to,

00:47:06.500 but we'll do it next time.

00:47:07.380 In the meantime,

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00:47:13.480 tonight-o.

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00:47:15.700 on that on Monday.

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Ep. 373 - Los Democrats Son Muy Estúpidos

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