The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 376 - America Is Great, But The NYT Is Not

00:00:00.000 The illiterate millennials of the New York Times have published a five-minute-long video essay 0.78

00:00:05.680 titled, Please Stop Telling Me America is Great, just in time for the 4th of July.

00:00:11.300 We will dissect the nonsense.

00:00:13.620 Then, Sargon of Akkad stops by to talk YouTube and politics.

00:00:18.120 Finally, the mailbag and my favorite soldier story from the Revolutionary War.

00:00:22.680 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:30.000 Just in time for the 4th of July, the New York Times comes out with a total hit piece

00:00:38.540 on not just some political issue, not just on Trump, not just on conservatives,

00:00:42.580 but on all of American history and the American nation.

00:00:46.700 And they call it an opinion piece.

00:00:48.520 So they say it's an op-ed.

00:00:50.500 You know, we're not necessarily endorsing this view.

00:00:52.840 We're just publishing it.

00:00:53.920 It's written, quote-unquote, by someone named Taige Johnson and Naima Raza.

00:01:00.820 But the New York Times can't distance themselves from this entirely because it's not an essay

00:01:05.420 that these people wrote.

00:01:06.600 It's a video essay.

00:01:07.800 This is something that was produced at the New York Times.

00:01:10.380 It's a five-minute-long video that they hired someone to narrate it, and they hired people

00:01:16.700 to illustrate it and animate it.

00:01:18.100 And it goes through, and it's just an all-out attack on America and the idea that America

00:01:24.500 is great.

00:01:25.280 I mean, there's obviously an underlying message of anti-Trumpism because President Trump's

00:01:31.720 campaign slogan is, make America great again, keep America great.

00:01:34.980 They're saying, America isn't great.

00:01:36.700 Don't tell me that America was great.

00:01:38.260 But they don't talk about Trump.

00:01:39.320 They just talk about the country.

00:01:41.080 Here's how they launch their attack.

00:01:43.980 America, the greatest country on Earth.

00:01:48.940 A narrative packed and sold to tiny patriots, reinforced by every cartoon, movie, cheeseburger,

00:01:56.260 and mattress sale.

00:01:57.420 Guaranteed.

00:01:58.060 A mythology so entrenched, our most beloved personalities urge us never to question it.

00:02:04.640 Don't let anyone ever tell you that this country isn't great.

00:02:08.460 This right now is the greatest country on Earth.

00:02:12.340 Greatest country God ever gave me.

00:02:14.380 You're the greatest country in the world, I'll tell you that.

00:02:16.600 America's the greatest country in the world.

00:02:18.460 But what if we did question it?

00:02:21.400 America is the richest country in this club.

00:02:23.940 But we're also the poorest, with a whopping 18% poverty rate, closer to Mexico than Western Europe.

00:02:30.540 12.8 million American children live in poverty.

00:02:33.940 That's almost one in five of our kids.

00:02:36.080 And speaking of kids, turns out at the level of high school science, we're 19th of 36.

00:02:41.940 Reading, 20th.

00:02:44.380 And math, a dismal 30th.

00:02:47.120 We spend more in health care than any other country in the golf club,

00:02:50.900 especially out of our own private little pockets.

00:02:52.840 But we live sicker and shorter lives.

00:02:56.140 We're fatter.

00:02:57.200 And globally, we're more likely to see newborns die.

00:03:00.780 We're even behind Bosnia. 0.96

00:03:03.240 So, I don't even know where to begin with this, with all of the internal contradictions and the outright nonsense.

00:03:08.680 The premise at the beginning is that we're told never to question how great America is.

00:03:14.220 When was the last time that was true?

00:03:16.020 Like 1952?

00:03:17.640 All we are told, from kindergarten onward, is that America isn't great.

00:03:21.920 I mean, now in our high schools, we are taught left-wing anti-American polemics,

00:03:26.140 like Howard Zinn's People's History of the United States, as though they were scholarship,

00:03:30.800 as though they were regular old history textbooks.

00:03:33.820 We're constantly deconstructing America.

00:03:37.020 We're knocking down monuments.

00:03:38.740 Obviously, we're knocking down monuments to Christopher Columbus.

00:03:41.740 We're knocking down monuments to George Washington.

00:03:45.000 There's a school in California about to spend about $600,000 to cover up a mural of George Washington

00:03:50.640 at a school named after George Washington.

00:03:53.500 We're always told that America isn't great.

00:03:55.720 The thing that we're not learning is all the great stuff that America has done.

00:03:59.200 But then the New York Times goes in just in those first few seconds to contradict themselves several times.

00:04:05.100 We'll get to that in a second.

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00:05:38.640 So the premise of this whole New York Times video is just demonstrably false.

00:05:42.560 We are told by the pop culture.

00:05:44.060 We're told by our educational institutions.

00:05:45.760 We are told by the New York Times itself, the gray lady, all the news that fits the narrative,

00:05:50.980 that America isn't great.

00:05:52.400 And they tell us that we're told never to question how great America is.

00:05:56.020 I mean, even Barack Obama, the president of the United States, he said he wants to fundamentally

00:06:00.220 transform America.

00:06:01.260 And he said he doesn't really believe in American exceptionalism any more than anyone else believes

00:06:06.360 in the exceptionalism of their own country.

00:06:09.380 But then, did you hear what they criticize America for?

00:06:12.940 They criticize America for being really poor.

00:06:16.140 You know, we're so poor we're starving.

00:06:18.480 Then they also criticize America for being too fat.

00:06:21.200 We're obese.

00:06:22.180 They criticize America because our babies are more likely to die, apparently, than in some

00:06:29.840 countries.

00:06:31.140 But then the New York Times, almost every day of the week, talks about how abortion is a

00:06:35.280 sacred right that we need to protect a constitutional right to kill a million babies a year. 1.00

00:06:40.360 But it's terrible that some babies die.

00:06:43.820 They criticize us for spending the most money on health care.

00:06:47.800 They say it's mostly out of our own pockets, too, as if some money wasn't out of our pockets.

00:06:54.700 When the government spends money, I guess the New York Times thinks it comes from magic.

00:06:58.500 It comes from thin air.

00:06:59.360 It doesn't come from our own pockets.

00:07:00.800 Of course, government spending comes from our pockets.

00:07:03.300 It comes from our pockets through taxation.

00:07:05.820 Then it is inefficiently spent, and there's a lot of corruption usually along the way.

00:07:09.380 Then they spend it on health care.

00:07:10.860 So they criticize us for spending a lot of money on health care.

00:07:13.820 But we also have the best health care system in the world.

00:07:16.200 Everybody who wants good health care comes to the United States from every other country.

00:07:21.780 If you want really the top health care in the world, you don't go to Cuba.

00:07:25.380 You don't go to Canada.

00:07:26.700 You don't go to the UK.

00:07:27.900 You don't go to China.

00:07:29.280 You come to America. 0.97

00:07:31.240 Why?

00:07:32.280 Because we have the best health care system.

00:07:35.020 And it's not only for the super duper rich.

00:07:37.580 Everybody in America can get treatment.

00:07:39.600 And you don't have to wait in long lines.

00:07:41.140 We don't have long lines to wait for health care.

00:07:42.760 We don't, like the UK, have a system where the government just takes control of your baby. 0.70

00:07:47.440 And if you want to get your baby's treatment for his condition, like in the case of little baby Charlie Gard or baby Alfie,

00:07:54.720 the government in the US can't just steal your baby from you like the socialist government in the UK did.

00:08:00.160 We have control over our health care here.

00:08:02.960 Also, we lead virtually all of the health care innovation in the world.

00:08:06.400 I guess it comes at a cost, but it's not that bad.

00:08:12.060 We're all doing pretty well here.

00:08:13.620 The New York Times then goes on to talk about all of the immense flaws in American democracy.

00:08:20.420 This year, America slid on global rankings of corruption and freedom and dropped from a functional to a flawed democracy.

00:08:27.080 I have to stop it there because the flaw in the New York Times' argument is that America is a democracy.

00:08:36.760 We're not a democracy.

00:08:38.120 We're a republic.

00:08:39.900 The founders and framers were terrified of direct democracy.

00:08:44.080 They were terrified of mob rule.

00:08:45.380 That's why we have this brilliant federal system, this republican system that balances different rights, different authority, different powers between the federal government, the state governments, the local governments, between the judiciary and the legislature and the executive.

00:09:00.440 It's a brilliant system.

00:09:02.920 But even beyond that, I was wondering when I saw them say that the US is falling behind.

00:09:08.060 We're a flawed democracy.

00:09:09.740 According to whom?

00:09:11.760 Whose opinion do I really have to value here?

00:09:13.920 The answer is it comes from the Economist Intelligence Unit.

00:09:18.140 That's the Economist, as in that leftist magazine from the United Kingdom, the magazine that called Ben Shapiro an alt-right sage.

00:09:25.840 Orthodox Jew, yarmulke wearing Ben Shapiro is apparently a Nazi, according to this outlet, the Economist.

00:09:32.340 But I'm going to trust their opinion when it comes to American democracy.

00:09:35.800 And by the way, America's not even a democracy.

00:09:37.840 We're a republic. 1.00

00:09:38.620 And if we're so stupid, if we're so stupid, we've fallen behind on so many measures, why do we lead the world in everything, in the economy, in culture, in our political system, in our military? 1.00

00:09:51.560 We are number one. 1.00

00:09:52.760 There is no number two.

00:09:53.860 We export all of that around the world. 0.97

00:09:55.420 If we're so dumb, if we're failing at everything, how is that even possible? 0.97

00:10:01.560 But then the New York Times totally shows their cards. 0.98

00:10:03.960 They show what this video is really about.

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00:12:03.080 So the New York Times finally gives away their hand here.

00:12:07.680 They go on to describe everything that we do succeed in in America, but it's all terrible according to the New York Times.

00:12:17.240 So what, besides our economy and military, are we actually number one in?

00:12:21.660 So what are we number one in?

00:12:23.620 Now listen how they bury the lead here, right?

00:12:25.700 What, besides our economy and military, are we actually number one in?

00:12:30.500 The economy and the military are pretty important, aren't they?

00:12:33.800 The economy and the military are, I don't know, those are the main ways that we judge nations around the world, right?

00:12:40.120 Kind of glossing over some important things.

00:12:42.780 And our economy and our military aren't just slightly better than everybody's.

00:12:46.100 They are a zillion times better.

00:12:47.500 I mean, they are, there's barely a second place.

00:12:49.640 GDP in the United States is $21.5 trillion.

00:12:53.060 That's 51% larger than China's GDP.

00:12:56.160 51% larger, even though China has four times our population.

00:13:01.060 There's an extra billion people in China.

00:13:03.900 More than an extra billion people in China.

00:13:05.960 And our GDP still crushes them.

00:13:07.700 We also still have the strongest military.

00:13:09.800 In terms of military spending, way more than twice the next highest military spending country, which is China.

00:13:15.600 But as a matter of military victories, military power that we project around the world, you couldn't even quantify it.

00:13:22.820 So, pretty good.

00:13:24.560 I mean, it's funny.

00:13:25.480 They have to admit that because otherwise it's just so dishonest in their video.

00:13:30.540 But what did they, they spent like four seconds saying that.

00:13:32.880 Then they move on.

00:13:33.580 And they say, but besides that, besides those two incredibly important measures, what else are we number one in?

00:13:39.360 Just a bunch of totally bad stuff.

00:13:42.000 Turns out, a lot of things.

00:13:44.040 Civilian gun ownership.

00:13:45.660 Mass shootings.

00:13:46.880 TV watching.

00:13:48.140 Prescription drug abuse.

00:13:49.760 Prison population.

00:13:51.220 Oh, and almost number one on environmental damage edged out by China. 0.72

00:13:54.980 Okay, you see all of, oh no, it's so awful.

00:13:59.720 Let's just quickly debunk every single thing they said.

00:14:02.400 First of all, civilian gun ownership is a very good thing.

00:14:05.060 It not only protects us from bad guys, it protects us from tyranny.

00:14:08.560 From the worst, the worst tyrannies in the world have taken away people's guns before they've, they've unleashed their worst miseries on their people.

00:14:17.020 So, civilian gun ownership, that is a plus.

00:14:19.340 It is good that we have the number one in that.

00:14:21.580 Mass shootings.

00:14:22.420 Yeah, mass shootings are awful.

00:14:23.660 Americans are also much, much more likely to be killed by hands and feet and clubs and hammers than the types of guns that are used in mass shootings.

00:14:33.600 So, it's awful when things happen.

00:14:35.800 It's sad that in a fallen world, bad things happen.

00:14:38.840 But, it's not even coming close to the real issues here.

00:14:42.700 The vast majority of gun crimes, by the way, are not mass shootings.

00:14:46.080 They're not AR-15s.

00:14:47.620 They're pistols being used in suicides.

00:14:49.560 And, guess what?

00:14:51.160 If you take away the guns, the people who are going to kill themselves are just going to find out another way to do it.

00:14:55.700 A TV watching, they mentioned.

00:14:57.000 This is my favorite one they mentioned because they're talking about how awful TV watching is in a medium that is being viewed on a TV screen.

00:15:06.580 This is a video essay.

00:15:08.200 So, you're watching this on a TV screen and they're telling you how bad TV is.

00:15:12.140 If TV is so bad, why did you make the essay?

00:15:13.960 Why didn't you just use your words and write it? 0.86

00:15:15.600 Oh, I forgot because the millennials who run the New York Times are completely illiterate. 0.99

00:15:22.840 Prescription drug abuse.

00:15:24.120 Now, this one is very important because it sounds bad.

00:15:28.980 It can be bad.

00:15:29.680 But, actually, it shows you a wonderful aspect of America that they had just been complaining about earlier.

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00:17:19.080 So then they go on in the New York Times.

00:17:20.940 They criticize prescription drug abuse.

00:17:23.520 Yeah, prescription drug abuse is awful.

00:17:26.480 It also means that we have a highly functioning healthcare system where the problem is not that there's too little medicine for too few people.

00:17:32.960 It's that there's too much medicine for too many people.

00:17:36.180 Obviously, you want to stop prescription drug abuse as best you can.

00:17:38.720 You want to stop bad doctors from overprescribing.

00:17:41.640 But prescription drug abuse is the sort of problem that you get in a healthcare system that is actually suffering from abundance, not scarcity.

00:17:49.680 We're suffering from too much healthcare, not too little.

00:17:52.960 Prison population.

00:17:53.920 They say this like it's a bad thing.

00:17:56.000 Sometimes conservatives fall into this trap too.

00:17:58.400 A large prison population means that we are locking up our criminals.

00:18:02.120 That's a good thing.

00:18:04.140 When we had a lower prison population in the early 90s and late 80s, we had a lot more criminals on the street committing a lot more violent crimes.

00:18:11.720 Now we have many more people in prison and a much lower crime rate.

00:18:14.920 Good thing.

00:18:15.740 Lock them up.

00:18:16.540 Lock more of them up.

00:18:17.500 I want more prison, a greater prison population, so we have lower crime.

00:18:23.820 And then environmental damage.

00:18:25.140 This is just BS.

00:18:26.720 You can just take the Paris deal as an example.

00:18:28.680 We pulled out of that Paris climate deal and we are leading the world in reducing carbon emissions.

00:18:34.020 In 2017, U.S. carbon emissions declined by more than 42 million tons.

00:18:39.540 Now what's bizarre about this is that Canada, Spain, the EU, and China, who are all signatories of the Paris deal, they're really serious about taking care of the climate.

00:18:50.360 They actually increased their carbon emissions.

00:18:52.420 The New York Times doesn't talk about that though. 0.98

00:18:53.980 So we pull out of these stupid do-nothing deals and we actually lead the world on the environment. 0.96

00:18:59.500 The New York Times doesn't even come close to making an argument that America isn't great. 0.99

00:19:03.240 What they do is show that they don't like America.

00:19:06.380 They just don't like it.

00:19:07.440 They don't like the things that make America great.

00:19:09.500 They don't like the ample liberty that we enjoy.

00:19:11.580 They don't like the freedom to own guns, the freedom to watch TV, the freedom to purchase medications, and the freedom to eat the food that we want.

00:19:18.660 They don't like any of that.

00:19:19.700 They want to shut it down.

00:19:21.360 Well, that doesn't mean America isn't great.

00:19:23.300 That means that the New York Times isn't great and I think it never was.

00:19:26.840 We have got to get to now a fabulous guest.

00:19:30.860 One of the biggest names on YouTube, Sargon of Akkad, Carl Benjamin.

00:19:35.940 If there's somehow that you're living under a rock, you've never heard of him, take a look.

00:19:40.080 You're normalizing this kind of language.

00:19:42.600 I'm normalizing comedy because at this point comedy is under attack in this country.

00:19:46.680 I mean, I'm being investigated for a joke.

00:19:49.280 I can name other comedians who are being investigated for jokes.

00:19:52.540 We have gone down a very dark path.

00:19:54.600 As Orwell says, printed on the front of this building, if liberty is to mean anything at all, it must mean the right to tell people that which they don't want to hear.

00:20:03.440 Do you stand by that or not?

00:20:04.760 This is the BBC.

00:20:05.760 Does the BBC stand by that or not?

00:20:07.380 Here are some comments from your social media pages.

00:20:09.460 Honestly, for me, I'm not going to speak for UKIP as a whole, but for me, being able to table these issues around free speech is the most important thing.

00:20:17.040 I'm a free speech activist.

00:20:19.300 We are losing our ability to make jokes in this country.

00:20:22.580 Because of puritanical moral standards, I don't promote the language of rape and violence.

00:20:26.600 I make jokes.

00:20:27.320 Do you agree with that?

00:20:27.720 You're the ones decontextualizing this.

00:20:29.340 And no, that's tyrannical.

00:20:30.340 That's tyrannical.

00:20:32.500 That is the state of the mainstream media right now.

00:20:36.520 And it's the state of big tech right now.

00:20:38.740 But at least they haven't shut us down yet.

00:20:40.620 Sargon of Akkad, Carl Benjamin.

00:20:42.600 So nice to meet you, my friend.

00:20:44.520 I'm so glad you could come by in studio.

00:20:46.440 Oh, thank you for having me.

00:20:47.500 It's a real pleasure.

00:20:48.120 Of course, I've seen a lot of your videos.

00:20:51.180 But I wanted to refresh.

00:20:52.880 I wanted to see what people are saying about you now.

00:20:54.820 So I looked up some articles in BuzzFeed.

00:20:57.520 The best place.

00:20:58.380 The best place, I mean, in the New York Times. 1.00

00:21:01.400 And I learned, I didn't know this about you, you are an alt-right white supremacist Nazi. 0.99

00:21:07.860 Did you know that? 0.99

00:21:09.400 Actually, yes.

00:21:10.240 I read those articles too.

00:21:12.920 So, of course, since I read it in the New York Times, of course it has to be true, right?

00:21:17.400 Front page as well.

00:21:18.600 That was the great thing.

00:21:19.500 I mean, I didn't realize I was such big news.

00:21:21.600 But, I mean.

00:21:22.960 How does this happen?

00:21:23.900 I mean, you go from being one of the biggest names on YouTube and your big issue is free speech.

00:21:28.560 I mean, you are a politically incorrect guy.

00:21:31.160 You say plenty of outrageous things.

00:21:33.080 You make plenty of jokes.

00:21:34.860 Yes.

00:21:35.220 And they try to turn you into a Nazi.

00:21:38.060 How did it happen?

00:21:39.200 Why did it happen?

00:21:39.960 It happened exclusively, and it happens to anyone who challenges the progressive left

00:21:47.900 and the dominance of political correctness across the political sphere of society. 0.91

00:21:52.560 That's exclusively the reason they do it, and they will continue doing it until eventually

00:21:56.840 people just stop listening to them.

00:21:59.040 And I can't think of any other way for it to end, really.

00:22:02.340 I mean, we can't censor them out of existence, obviously.

00:22:04.880 So, what other options do we have?

00:22:07.060 But they can censor us out of existence.

00:22:09.060 I mean, that's my fear, at least.

00:22:10.260 Yes, they can, but that's because they're Nazis. 0.93

00:22:13.000 Right. 0.92

00:22:14.040 Right.

00:22:14.580 I mean, if they're going to call me a Nazi, I'm going to call them a Nazi.

00:22:17.720 If they're going to say they're anti-fascist, they're marching around literally wearing 0.90

00:22:22.020 black shirts, the uniformed fascists, using violence against civilians for political ends.

00:22:27.280 But I do have a real fear about this, because you have, you still have one of the biggest 0.91

00:22:35.160 channels on YouTube.

00:22:36.140 For now.

00:22:36.660 For now.

00:22:37.840 They demonetized you, and then they kicked you off Patreon.

00:22:41.920 So, they kicked you off your instrument of funding yourself.

00:22:46.160 Yeah, and what's worse as well is that they are definitely de-ranking us on YouTube's algorithms

00:22:52.420 as well.

00:22:52.960 Well, I can actually see there's a very explicit visual representation of this, because YouTube

00:22:58.180 give you the access to the information on how people find your channel.

00:23:01.920 And obviously, a huge chunk of it is recommended videos in the sidebar.

00:23:05.960 And you can see that, I think it was around May the 1st, they obviously altered their algorithm,

00:23:10.180 because the traffic from that just plummets.

00:23:11.960 And that's a huge amount of traffic that comes to your channel.

00:23:15.380 So, yeah.

00:23:16.140 And this has not just happened to me.

00:23:17.540 It's happened to Dave Rubin.

00:23:18.420 It's happened to Tim Poole.

00:23:20.800 And this was what the Project Veritas whistleblowers have been letting us know.

00:23:25.380 And it's, again, and it's not new either.

00:23:27.140 These sort of whistleblowers, like James Damore, coming out and saying, well, look, Google has

00:23:30.380 a monoculture that actively describes us, and as the Veritas leaks showed, they describe

00:23:36.000 us actually as Nazis.

00:23:37.300 They consider Ben Shapiro, Dennis Prager, and Jordan Peterson to actually be Nazis dog-whistling

00:23:43.760 to other Nazis.

00:23:44.500 And, I mean, I don't know where to go with that, because it's so comically backwards. 1.00

00:23:49.780 Well, what I love about the dog whistle claim is, you know, I never hear these dog whistles.

00:23:53.800 No.

00:23:53.920 You never hear them.

00:23:55.540 I'm not a dog.

00:23:56.840 That's right.

00:23:57.620 I can't hear it.

00:23:57.760 There are many people hearing the dog whistles, so what does that make them?

00:24:00.380 Yes.

00:24:01.280 But when you got kicked off Patreon...

00:24:03.120 Yes.

00:24:03.560 ...that actually did spark a pretty big backlash.

00:24:06.320 It did.

00:24:06.840 Jordan Peterson got off.

00:24:08.540 Dave Rubin got off.

00:24:11.160 Has it made any difference?

00:24:12.380 Not really, because, oh, well, initially, yes, because that's the sort of dirty tactic

00:24:20.760 they go for.

00:24:21.940 Patreon's own rules, and Jack Conte was very clear about this when he was talking to Dave

00:24:25.680 Rubin, saying, no, we only care about what you do on Patreon, except when they get something

00:24:30.220 that they decide they want to take off Patreon, which was, you know, none of this was on Patreon.

00:24:34.880 It was when I was having a spat with a group of Nazis online, actual, you know, Nazis online,

00:24:39.060 and I was calling them mean words, and Patreon decided, nope, you can't call them mean words.

00:24:43.480 We are concerned about the sanctity of these Nazis, and therefore you can go. 0.99

00:24:47.600 And that wouldn't have been a problem, because there are alternatives.

00:24:50.120 There are competitors to Patreon.

00:24:51.840 Because really, what they do, it's a very basic service.

00:24:54.400 They just aggregate donations and then take 5% cut.

00:24:57.720 But the interesting thing is, I said, fine, that's not a problem.

00:25:00.720 You know, if you, for some reason, wish to make up a reason to kick me off your platform,

00:25:05.080 that's fine.

00:25:05.600 I'll just use one of your competitors.

00:25:07.380 And interestingly, Stripe, the payment processing company, pulled out of that competitor a day

00:25:13.560 or two after I announced that I was going on there.

00:25:15.620 Now, that, to me, is very peculiar, because this competitor had been going for about eight

00:25:20.320 months prior to me joining it, with no problems whatsoever.

00:25:24.160 Suddenly, I join it, and now, oh, no, so you can't have that.

00:25:26.500 So it looks like it's effectively cartel behavior.

00:25:29.400 You know, it's...

00:25:30.440 This is the issue, because I used to have...

00:25:32.300 I mean, would you describe yourself as a conservative or more as a classical liberal?

00:25:35.700 I describe myself as an English liberal, which I guess is a lot closer to, like, your founding

00:25:43.560 fathers, in many ways.

00:25:44.980 You know, I believe in limited government, freedom of action, inherent natural rights.

00:25:50.580 You know, nothing that the Nazis would agree with, incidentally.

00:25:54.300 But this is my issue, is when I look at what they're doing to you, I mean, obviously, you're

00:25:58.520 just a huge personality on YouTube, so they go for you.

00:26:01.420 Yes.

00:26:01.880 But they're doing it to me.

00:26:02.980 They're doing it to all of us here.

00:26:04.780 And I used to be so laissez-faire about everything, hands off, don't worry, it'll work itself out.

00:26:10.980 Yeah.

00:26:11.200 Because if, look, if one tech company isn't going to let us on their platform, then another

00:26:16.060 one will, except they control the flow of information around the internet.

00:26:20.060 And, well, okay, never mind.

00:26:21.220 You know, at least I can find a competitor somewhere, except the payment processor is

00:26:26.240 going to pull out.

00:26:26.860 They're not going to, at a certain point.

00:26:28.380 Or look at Gab, Gab.com.

00:26:30.040 I mean, you know, you can say, well, Gab.com has a lot of people who have been censored on

00:26:34.460 there.

00:26:34.640 So it does contain neo-Nazis and, you know, the really sort of, the sort of people that

00:26:39.160 you don't actually want to engage with politically because you know what their ideas are and

00:26:42.040 they're bad.

00:26:42.460 They're bad hombres, right. 0.91

00:26:43.560 But they have a right to speak like anyone else.

00:26:45.960 And Gab is not a platform to promote that.

00:26:48.360 They also, you know, they allow anyone to use it.

00:26:50.800 It's a free speech dedicated platform.

00:26:52.440 And unsurprisingly, the censored people go there.

00:26:55.380 They pulled Gab's hosting service.

00:26:59.000 They were de-hosted and had to find another host probably somewhere outside of the US,

00:27:04.160 outside of Silicon Valley's tendrils.

00:27:07.860 This is not a fair marketplace.

00:27:09.740 This is not a fair marketplace.

00:27:11.420 And the scales are being deliberately weighted, as we know from Insider's Leaking, where they

00:27:15.540 are not actively de-platforming people or entire platforms just for hosting people that they

00:27:21.020 don't like.

00:27:21.700 Because at the end of the day, I mean, I don't have a criminal record or anything, you know.

00:27:24.720 And England has hate speech laws, you know.

00:27:26.820 So if I had actually done something and we're a very left-leaning country, you know they'd

00:27:32.060 come down on me like an absolute hammer and they'd nail me on anything they could nail

00:27:36.900 me on.

00:27:38.240 But I'm still in the clear.

00:27:39.840 So really, this is all, it's kind of a front.

00:27:43.260 It's kind of a game of chess that's being played, I think.

00:27:46.880 And so yeah, and it is to the benefit of people who actually do not consider us to be people

00:27:53.180 of rights.

00:27:54.080 That's the thing.

00:27:54.900 Because as soon as the left, and one of the best things we can do is to draw the left

00:27:59.960 out and get them to be censorious.

00:28:01.840 Because as soon as they start saying, right, okay, you don't have a right to free speech,

00:28:04.680 what they're saying is, you aren't a human as I recognize you to be.

00:28:07.840 You're not a human as I am a human.

00:28:09.880 Exactly.

00:28:10.460 Exactly.

00:28:10.900 We're looking at, yeah, they actually have a two-tier system.

00:28:13.540 And then when we get to the stuff with Andy Ngo, and you're not a journalist, you're not

00:28:17.900 a this, you're not a that.

00:28:18.720 So it doesn't matter.

00:28:19.860 You know, if you recognize him as a human being with inherent rights, you know you don't

00:28:24.400 have a right to just assault him or deplatform him or any of these things.

00:28:27.240 You know that what you're doing is, and it's a display of power.

00:28:30.960 You know, that's the justification for it.

00:28:32.740 It's not justified in principle.

00:28:34.380 It's only justified because you have the means and you have the motive.

00:28:37.460 And they, frankly, they hate us.

00:28:40.760 I mean, I don't know how else to say it.

00:28:42.480 They hate us.

00:28:43.320 The journalists so-called at the Huffington Post, New York Times, wherever, they more or

00:28:49.020 less defended Antifa against Andy Ngo.

00:28:51.900 Openly, openly.

00:28:52.580 I've seen many of them.

00:28:54.180 I mean, the Huffington Post posted an article saying, what was it, the far right wanted blood

00:28:59.440 at wherever the location was, and they got it.

00:29:02.260 It's like, no, A, Andy Ngo isn't far right.

00:29:04.100 I know the man. 0.97

00:29:04.860 He's very soft-spoken, gay.

00:29:07.200 He's quite progressive in many ways.

00:29:09.080 Lives in Portland.

00:29:09.760 You know, he's part of that culture.

00:29:11.420 So he's not, he's not, I wouldn't even call him a conservative, really, you know, by your

00:29:15.820 standards, you know, I wouldn't call him a conservative.

00:29:17.140 He seems kind of a centrist.

00:29:18.660 He supports free speech.

00:29:19.740 He's very socially liberal, you know.

00:29:21.380 But yeah, they will describe them as far right, and they will say, no, no, it's completely

00:29:26.240 acceptable to do this.

00:29:27.180 And then you'll see their talking heads and their verified checkmark journos on Twitter,

00:29:30.860 all spouting the same sort of thing.

00:29:32.720 And then when one or two, like someone like Jake Tapper steps out of line and says, well,

00:29:36.440 hang on a second.

00:29:37.560 And understandably so, this is clearly undermining the rule of law, you know, and there's no

00:29:42.540 way you can argue that it's not.

00:29:44.240 All they can resort to is, yeah, well, he's fascist adjacent. 0.55

00:29:47.700 He's enabling fascists.

00:29:49.940 And it's like, all right, all right.

00:29:51.900 Because I mean, if that's the standard, then Antifa definitely enable fascists, because

00:29:55.880 the fascists can go look at these rampant communists who are beating people up in the

00:29:59.140 streets.

00:29:59.740 You know, you should listen to us.

00:30:01.140 And where does the traffic go?

00:30:03.100 Fascist adjacent.

00:30:04.060 This is a new destination.

00:30:04.600 That's amazing, isn't it?

00:30:05.720 You know, I want to ask you one last very important question on this about where it goes

00:30:10.340 from here.

00:30:11.240 But before we do that, I've got to say goodbye to Facebook and YouTube.

00:30:13.760 I probably already said goodbye to YouTube now that I had this guy on my show.

00:30:16.980 So you've got...

00:30:17.420 Demonifized.

00:30:18.660 You've got to go over to dailywire.com.

00:30:21.740 Ten bucks a month, $100 for an annual membership.

00:30:24.520 You'll get me.

00:30:25.220 You'll get the Andrew Klavan show.

00:30:26.180 You'll get the Ben Shapiro show.

00:30:27.180 You'll get the Matt Walsh show.

00:30:29.240 You'll get everything.

00:30:30.320 You'll get the Leftist Tears Tumblr.

00:30:32.460 I...

00:30:32.780 You know what?

00:30:33.100 I don't want to rob...

00:30:34.040 I don't want to rob the YouTube audience of your answer to this question.

00:30:37.820 So I'll go to the sub break after you answer this.

00:30:40.520 Now that they take away our platforms, they take away our payment services, they take away

00:30:49.740 our everything.

00:30:50.760 How do we fight back?

00:30:54.040 Do we start another YouTube and then they take away that too?

00:30:58.180 Or do we have to use political means to fight back?

00:31:01.960 There are two ways of doing it.

00:31:04.700 Honestly, at the moment, the conservatives in the US are in the driving seat when it comes

00:31:09.020 to political means.

00:31:10.240 And honestly, there's nothing wrong with using them.

00:31:12.020 You know, none of this would go against conservative principles as I understand them.

00:31:15.560 This is not a free market.

00:31:17.380 It is not...

00:31:18.220 There is no fair procedure and there is no just cause behind it.

00:31:22.080 There is no method of appeal either.

00:31:25.340 So you could not describe the way that people like Tommy Robinson or Paul Joseph Watson on

00:31:30.300 Facebook...

00:31:30.960 The way these people are being treated is monstrous.

00:31:33.640 And if we...

00:31:34.460 If we...

00:31:35.020 I say we.

00:31:35.600 And when I say we, I mean just the people who are not the radical left at this point.

00:31:39.280 You know, if the normal sort of centrist people were to act in that way to them, they

00:31:44.160 would be howling and we would be rightfully in the wrong.

00:31:47.460 So there's no question of it.

00:31:48.760 There's every reason to look at Silicon Valley as a cartel or a monopoly, something like that,

00:31:54.620 because these platforms are.

00:31:55.820 I mean, for example, Paul Joseph Watson, because Instagram is owned by Facebook, he's removed

00:31:59.460 from both platforms in the same day, even though they've got different terms of service,

00:32:02.760 even though he didn't actually break any of the rules as they can show them, especially

00:32:05.500 the same with Tommy Robinson.

00:32:07.280 But it's a...

00:32:08.160 It's a...

00:32:08.960 It's an entire sweep over any of the platforms that that company owns.

00:32:13.160 You know, it's not just on that thing.

00:32:14.940 So they're obviously not acting independently because they're owned by the same company.

00:32:18.560 So there's...

00:32:19.120 I mean, and this is just demonstrably true.

00:32:21.540 So there's every reason to think that antitrust laws can be used in these regards, I think.

00:32:27.620 Failing that, there is also the option for the conservatives to actually do something here,

00:32:34.320 but it has to be essentially root and branch.

00:32:36.340 You know, so they're going to have to start with their own, their own search engines,

00:32:41.220 their own payment process, their own, their own platforms and build up to what the, what

00:32:45.420 the...

00:32:46.140 And it's not...

00:32:46.620 Our own domain services.

00:32:48.000 Precisely.

00:32:48.520 Yeah, yeah.

00:32:48.760 It's not even what the left has built because the left didn't build this.

00:32:51.800 It co-opted this.

00:32:53.220 You know, Silicon Valley, if you look at the, the, the people running, owning the Silicon

00:32:57.100 Valley tech giants, they look like they're frightened children.

00:33:00.040 They look like they're on top of a beast of their own making that they didn't realize would

00:33:04.060 turn into a monster and it clearly has.

00:33:05.620 I mean, Mark Zuckerberg actually had to make a principled defense of Holocaust denial

00:33:09.640 before he got absolutely smashed by the reaction from the rabid left going, well, hang on

00:33:13.520 a second.

00:33:13.820 It's like, yeah, look, he doesn't say he agrees with them, but he believes they have a serious

00:33:16.520 conviction and should he be the arbiter of truth?

00:33:19.600 Well, the left has pressured them into becoming the arbiters of truth, which is a rod for their

00:33:22.960 own backs. 1.00

00:33:23.000 The old idea was if someone has a stupid idea, let him say it and you can smack them down and 1.00

00:33:26.860 prove them wrong. 1.00

00:33:27.400 That's content.

00:33:28.080 That's what we do.

00:33:28.860 You know, that's, and that's what they should be doing.

00:33:30.440 They should be like, well, great. 0.94

00:33:31.300 You know, Alex Jones has said something ridiculous. 0.87

00:33:32.640 We're going to laugh at him and the whole world will be laughing. 0.92

00:33:34.740 I've never heard him say anything.

00:33:35.160 I don't know what you're saying.

00:33:35.740 He never says anything ridiculous. 0.89

00:33:37.260 Bad example. 0.99

00:33:37.860 Are you trying to say that the frogs are not gay? 1.00

00:33:40.860 That's crazy. 0.96

00:33:41.300 No, that was one thing that he was completely correct on.

00:33:43.420 He actually got that one right.

00:33:43.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:33:44.080 He actually got that.

00:33:45.100 If anything, he was underplaying that one.

00:33:47.240 He was telling him trans.

00:33:48.780 That's right.

00:33:49.460 But yeah, but no, so there are things that the right can do, but the problem, I think,

00:33:55.300 is the right is generally quite libertarian and principally so.

00:34:02.700 It's a very strong moral conviction and one I am genuinely sympathetic to, but I'm not

00:34:07.500 a libertarian because I do believe that the state has a role.

00:34:10.520 This is exactly how I feel.

00:34:11.860 Yeah, exactly right.

00:34:12.620 There is a role for the state and I think that it is to protect our rights.

00:34:17.960 And in the case of the market, the market's not a perfect entity.

00:34:21.700 You know, when you have a competition, effectively someone has to win.

00:34:24.280 And if you want the competition to keep going, then you have to make sure that the winner

00:34:28.020 doesn't just monopolize everything that you have.

00:34:30.820 And so there is a role, in my opinion, for the state to intervene if something is becoming

00:34:36.220 demonstrably unfair in this regard.

00:34:38.260 And I think it is.

00:34:39.040 I mean, like people are being deplatformed for not even breaking rules.

00:34:41.900 The Facebook one was the most egregious one for Tommy Robinson, in my example, because

00:34:45.940 they essentially made up a bunch of things that Tommy had not said.

00:34:50.100 And said that in the previous months, he had said, you know, kill Muslims and things 0.96

00:34:54.120 like this. 0.72

00:34:54.720 It's like, look, if Tommy Robinson had posted that, he's under such scrutiny and he has

00:34:58.660 such a large audience, or he had such a large audience, that the second you saw that, you

00:35:02.700 see the clip of that or the screenshot, whatever, it'd be everywhere, absolutely everywhere.

00:35:06.560 And he'd be in jail.

00:35:07.540 He'd be in jail right now.

00:35:08.560 He'd have it, you know, because we have these laws in the UK.

00:35:10.860 So the fact that they could just make this up, provide no evidence, and then shut down

00:35:14.860 all of his accounts, that to me is really concerning.

00:35:18.700 It's terrifying.

00:35:19.260 And we're going to have to shut down your account right now over there for you watching

00:35:22.580 on Facebook and YouTube.

00:35:24.060 We are going to see each other later for a cigar, I hope.

00:35:26.220 Is that right?

00:35:26.640 Oh, absolutely.

00:35:27.240 I hope so.

00:35:27.600 All right.

00:35:27.820 Excellent.

00:35:28.240 I've got to let you go now.

00:35:29.080 We go to the sub break.

00:35:30.280 But Sargon and Bacat, obviously, they'll find you on YouTube.

00:35:32.640 Where else can people find you?

00:35:34.540 Good question.

00:35:35.440 I'm actually still on Facebook and Instagram.

00:35:37.700 For now.

00:35:38.140 But there are non-Silicon Valley alternatives like Telegram and BitChute that I definitely

00:35:43.240 recommend.

00:35:43.600 Minds.com as well.

00:35:44.540 All right.

00:35:44.980 Telegram, BitChute, Minds.com, whatever. 0.97

00:35:46.980 When they shut those down, we'll find a new one.

00:35:49.260 To find them on Sargon and Bacat, Carl Benjamin.

00:35:51.880 I'll see you later on tonight.

00:35:52.800 You will.

00:35:53.160 All right.

00:35:53.540 Cheers.

00:35:55.060 Go over to DailyWire.com.

00:35:56.340 We'll be right back with the mailbag.

00:35:57.460 I could talk to that guy all day.

00:36:08.560 We have to get him back because there is so much more I want to ask him about.

00:36:12.100 I mean, he is one of the most interesting guys on YouTube, and that's, I think, why

00:36:14.880 they're going after him so hard.

00:36:16.680 Let's get to the mailbag before I get to my favorite soldier story from the American Revolution

00:36:21.500 from Michael.

00:36:23.040 Michael.

00:36:24.880 The change is for someone who can win in 24.

00:36:29.120 Oh, you're talking, this is, you know what this is?

00:36:30.720 This is about the vice presidential pick.

00:36:33.000 Mike Pence cannot win an election for president.

00:36:35.660 If Republicans want to hold the White House, they need someone dynamic.

00:36:39.040 I pray for Ms. Rice, Condoleezza Rice, to change her mind and get back in the game. 1.00

00:36:43.420 She's a true leader with more knowledge than all the candidates on both sides put together.

00:36:47.920 Change is good.

00:36:48.660 It shows courage and leadership.

00:36:50.700 Republicans have to hold the White House.

00:36:52.760 It is the only way to keep the dam from breaking.

00:36:56.660 Cheers, Mikey G.

00:36:58.400 I feel you.

00:36:59.380 This is one of the good arguments, I guess, for ditching Pence is he doesn't seem like

00:37:03.880 an incredibly strong presidential candidate.

00:37:07.620 However, I don't really think that that is cause to ditch him.

00:37:12.560 I think, first of all, the presidential elections are about the people running for president.

00:37:17.000 They're not about the vice president.

00:37:18.260 They're not about the next guy to run for president.

00:37:20.040 They're not about the secretary of state.

00:37:21.440 They're not about any of that stuff.

00:37:23.160 They're about the guy who's running for president.

00:37:25.520 And I think right now, if Trump ditches a loyal, capable, good, really good vice president,

00:37:33.360 conservative vice president, I think it doesn't look great.

00:37:37.320 I think it makes him look ungrateful, disloyal.

00:37:39.960 I'm not convinced that it wouldn't scare some Christians and evangelical Christians and everyone

00:37:45.940 else in the faith and freedom type coalition.

00:37:49.200 And in 2024, there's no reason that President Trump has to endorse Mike Pence right away.

00:37:55.600 Trump is his own guy.

00:37:56.520 I think he could stand back.

00:37:57.860 And if it's going to be Pence and Haley and whoever else is running, he could say, look,

00:38:03.480 Pence was my VP.

00:38:04.360 He was very good.

00:38:05.400 Haley was my UN ambassador.

00:38:07.620 I'm going to sit this one out.

00:38:08.920 I, in the spirit of freedom, I'm going to let the Republican voters decide who the nominee

00:38:13.000 is going to be.

00:38:13.740 We've got so many great candidates.

00:38:15.300 I'm so excited.

00:38:16.520 Reagan started to do this in 1988.

00:38:19.460 It's not like he jumped on and endorsed George Bush right away.

00:38:22.260 And maybe he shouldn't have endorsed him at all, frankly, because he was only a one-term

00:38:27.360 president.

00:38:28.440 I think it would be fine.

00:38:29.740 I always caution conservatives against playing seven steps ahead.

00:38:34.120 There were a lot of people who told me we should vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016 because

00:38:38.820 then the next election, we would totally win and it would be great.

00:38:42.080 Forget about the next election.

00:38:43.200 Worry about this election.

00:38:44.360 I think Trump should stay loyal to his guy and keep the coalition and keep the team united.

00:38:49.460 From Chuck.

00:38:50.120 Mark, Michael, do you think Judas went to heaven after he died?

00:38:54.820 If not, what hope is there for us if someone that gave up basically everything to follow

00:38:59.760 Jesus didn't make it?

00:39:01.840 I make no pronouncements on who is in heaven or hell other than the saints.

00:39:06.760 We can know that the saints are in heaven and it's revealed in the book of Revelation.

00:39:11.780 But I don't make proclamations over whether I think so-and-so is in heaven or hell, generally

00:39:17.840 speaking, because it is entirely possible that Judas could have had repentance in his

00:39:22.340 last fleeting moment on earth and could be now before the beatific vision.

00:39:27.320 I'm not convinced that that is the case.

00:39:30.100 I suspect he is in hell.

00:39:31.780 And the reason for that is Christ says, the son of man must be betrayed, but woe to the

00:39:36.460 man who does it.

00:39:37.760 And that it would be better for that man if he had never been born.

00:39:40.420 So that seems pretty unambiguous to me.

00:39:43.800 The other reason is that Judas is not likely in hell because of the betrayal of Christ.

00:39:51.220 He's in hell because he despaired.

00:39:54.160 Hope is a theological virtue and he lost all hope and killed himself.

00:39:59.560 Now he could have repented in his last moments on earth.

00:40:03.120 I don't see a lot of evidence that he did.

00:40:04.900 Some say because he threw away the silver that he repented, but he threw away the silver

00:40:09.460 and then he killed himself.

00:40:10.400 So I don't really see that hope.

00:40:13.560 And if you don't have hope, then you don't get to go to heaven.

00:40:17.860 Heaven is hope.

00:40:19.360 I mean, heaven is where we hope for something after this death.

00:40:23.740 If you throw your life away, if you kill yourself, you clearly don't have that.

00:40:29.200 And so I think it very likely seals Judas's fate, but I'm not willing to make any definitive

00:40:35.160 statement on it.

00:40:36.240 Hey, Michael, big fan of the show.

00:40:38.680 The Pope recently changed the words to the Lord's Prayer from, and lead us not into temptation

00:40:43.820 to, and let us not fall into temptation.

00:40:47.440 The argument being that God is not the tempter.

00:40:49.740 So why would he lead us into temptation?

00:40:51.460 However, I've read the original text of Matthew and it's much closer to the first version of

00:40:55.740 the prayer.

00:40:56.100 Doesn't this present a problem when the Pope is seen to be infallible in matters of scripture?

00:41:00.640 Thanks, big fan of the show.

00:41:02.160 Sincerely, Nick.

00:41:04.160 You're right.

00:41:05.000 Your read of that is right.

00:41:06.260 And the Pope's read of the Lord's Prayer is not right.

00:41:10.260 But you're wrong in what you think papal infallibility is.

00:41:13.800 And it's a common mistake.

00:41:14.780 People make it all the time.

00:41:16.140 The Pope is not infallible in matters of scripture.

00:41:19.840 The Pope is infallible when he is speaking, and the term is ex cathedra.

00:41:24.840 So when he is speaking from his official office, right?

00:41:30.260 People think this happens every day.

00:41:31.860 Every time if the Pope woke up and said two plus two is five, we would have to believe it.

00:41:35.180 No, the Pope can be wrong about a number of things.

00:41:37.200 And the Popes frequently are wrong about a lot of things.

00:41:40.480 Papal infallibility has only occurred, guess how many times in the history of the Catholic 0.72

00:41:46.260 Church?

00:41:46.600 Catholic Church has been around 2,000 years.

00:41:48.440 How many times?

00:41:50.620 Twice.

00:41:51.020 Twice the Pope has spoken infallibly, and it was to clarify questions about Mary, which

00:42:00.640 had been, which also were not his random ideas, but had been building up for well over 1,000

00:42:05.940 years in the Catholic Church.

00:42:09.560 I'm looking on the bright side when the Pope gets something wrong, which Popes frequently 0.99

00:42:13.740 do.

00:42:14.160 I think it is actually a good reminder because the Pope is, he's the primary bishop, you

00:42:19.540 know, he's the successor to Peter, but he's also a bishop.

00:42:23.420 His bishops get things wrong.

00:42:25.100 The bishops in the United States get things wrong a lot.

00:42:27.380 It's good to remember that the Pope is fallible except when he's infallible.

00:42:30.480 I want to get to, very briefly, before we go, my favorite American history figure from the

00:42:38.840 Revolution.

00:42:39.620 This guy, I always try to write down a few notes about him.

00:42:42.460 Here he is.

00:42:43.360 Samuel Whittemore.

00:42:45.420 Samuel Whittemore, born on July 27, 1696.

00:42:50.720 He's an American farmer and soldier.

00:42:52.500 He's the oldest known colonial soldier in the Revolutionary War.

00:42:56.420 However, he, according to some sources, obviously they're a little scarce, fought in King George's

00:43:01.580 War in 1744.

00:43:03.320 He fought in the French and Indian War in 1754.

00:43:06.720 Then he fought in the American Revolution in 1775.

00:43:09.880 On April 19th, 1775, Samuel Whittemore.

00:43:14.000 He's in the fields.

00:43:15.820 He's outside of Lexington and Concord.

00:43:18.360 The British are marching toward Lexington and Concord.

00:43:21.280 And this guy loads up his musket and he takes a shot and he kills a British soldier.

00:43:27.180 So he's behind a stone wall at this point.

00:43:30.020 He then turns, takes out his dueling pistols and shoots again.

00:43:35.600 Kills another British soldier, mortally wounds a third British soldier. 0.95

00:43:40.040 He then fires off another shot.

00:43:42.680 But by that point, the British had finally made it to him. 0.89

00:43:45.580 So Samuel Whittemore throws his guns down, draws his sword and starts attacking them.

00:43:51.460 So he's attacking them. 0.96

00:43:52.520 These British must have thought, what is this insane American doing? 0.96

00:43:56.420 78 years old. 0.99

00:43:57.900 He, uh, the British then shoot him in the face. 0.93

00:44:01.080 So they blow his face up. 0.92

00:44:03.140 They bayonet him numerous times.

00:44:05.080 They leave him for dead in a pool of his own blood.

00:44:08.020 So that's the end of Samuel Whittemore, right?

00:44:10.140 No.

00:44:10.740 The Patriots come up and they see him lying there.

00:44:13.520 It is this mangled body of a man.

00:44:15.960 But he's not lying dead.

00:44:17.520 He's trying to reload his gun to fire off another shot. 0.99

00:44:20.520 So they pick up this crazy old American man. 0.94

00:44:23.580 They drag him down to the doctor, Dr. Cotton Tufts of Medford. 0.82

00:44:27.240 And the doctor said there is no chance that he would survive.

00:44:32.540 So what do you think happened?

00:44:34.940 Yeah, he lived another 18 years and died of natural causes at the age of 96.

00:44:38.600 What an American.

00:44:41.940 That is the spirit of the 4th of July.

00:44:44.160 I hope that you will ignore the New York Times.

00:44:46.880 I hope you will ignore Nike shoes, which is now getting rid of American flags, that Betsy 0.58

00:44:52.640 Ross flag that we have behind us.

00:44:53.960 I hope you go out there and shoot off fireworks and eat hot dogs and hamburgers and drink a

00:44:59.320 lot of beer and make a toast to Samuel Whittemore.

00:45:03.340 I know Brett Kavanaugh certainly is going to say a toast, right?

00:45:05.900 He likes beer.

00:45:06.620 We all like beer.

00:45:07.380 Happy 4th of July.

00:45:08.400 I'm going to be subbing in for Ben on the radio today.

00:45:10.840 So if you want three more hours, come on over there.

00:45:12.600 In the meantime, I will see you after Independence Day.

00:45:15.460 I'm Michael Knowles.

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00:45:27.140 executive producer Jeremy Boring, senior producer Jonathan Hay.

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00:45:48.280 Hey guys, over on the Matt Wall Show today, Colin Kaepernick, as you've heard, is offended

00:45:51.420 by the flag and he thinks it stands for racism and slavery.

00:45:54.940 Well, it sounds sort of cliched to say it, but in all seriousness, I mean, at what point,

00:45:59.360 if you feel that way about the country, at what point do you leave in search of a country

00:46:03.060 that is not so terrible and racist and all of that?

00:46:05.860 Also, a congresswoman says that it should be illegal to make fun of politicians.

00:46:11.660 And some people online are pointing out that Kamala Harris is not African-American.

00:46:17.680 We're now told that it's racist to point that out.

00:46:20.420 But why would that be racist?

00:46:21.420 We'll try to figure that out today over on the Matt Wall Show.

The Michael Knowles Show - July 03, 2019

Ep. 376 - America Is Great, But The NYT Is Not

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